Bodhi's YouTube Channel

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 847.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on? Happy hump day.

Josh: I am— oh yeah, it is hump day. Go cheque out our hump day replay with Georgia boy. Today's special guest, Reece Mitchell.

Tommy: Reece Mitchell. Yeah, pumped for that one.

Josh: I got up at like 6:15 this morning and I discovered this software. I got this email, I went down this rabbit hole, and it's changed my life because—

Tommy: that's a big call, mate.

Josh: I know, more than Drafts. No, it's, it's more for as an editor, or even like— this is going to get you excited as well.

Tommy: All right, here we go.

Josh: All right, so think about the, um, the— I can't remember the name of the software, but I've been using it all morning. I'm loving it.

Tommy: Look out for the endorsement deal! This is a paid ad.

Josh: It's definitely Not a paid ad. Um, no, it is— so the thing that we've been trying to work out for a long time is how to make money. That, that very much so. But also, to look like I'm slightly out of sync to you, or, or is this always been the case? I think this has always been the case. Just slow, man.

Tommy: We're just trying to do our best, you know, 847 episodes in.

Josh: Um, Anyway, the great feature is, you know, with the Daily Talk Show.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: Think about how much— fuck, that's annoying me about the sync thing. Is this normally the case? Am I having a massive headfuck?

Tommy: I don't even know. I can't tell, mate.

Josh: One, two. Yeah, this has always been the case, but I've only just realised it now. Anyway. Uh, getting into the, to the weeds this morning. The, the feature is the Daily Talk Show. We have all of this footage, so much footage, hard to deal with it all. Uh, I'm using this software, I've got this project at the moment where I'm looking at lots of old archival footage. Yeah. And this tool is a media manager where I can click on the drive and it brings all of the video clips, everything to the front So I can see everything, I can tag it all, and then you can create Premiere Pro projects, or you can send it to Final Cut, Premiere Pro with all the selects that you have. Isn't that great?

Tommy: Wow.

Josh: And so you could do sub-clipping. So for instance, say, uh, we're working on a, um, there's, there's one single clip, and within that clip there's a bunch of interesting bits, bits, yeah, that we, that we want to use. I could be like, I want this bit, this bit, this bit, this bit. We could get anyone that's even like not an editor within our team to use this software, grab selects, and then we can create. Do you think that's a cool tool, right?

Tommy: Mate, it's amazing. You're either super hard right now or you're soft as a shell crab.

Josh: What are you saying?

Tommy: Internals of a shell crab. I know, because it's either going to get you going or get you really sort of get you soft.

Josh: No, I'm fired up.

Tommy: No, I'm fired up too. That's the kind of shit that gets me going. Like, it doesn't take much to get me going these days, mate. Just tell me that.

Josh: Finding old— Like, I found, like, my old pa— Like, I filmed, like, my pa who's passed away. I filmed all of this footage that I hadn't seen in a long time. And because I did it on one of my personal drives, I just started seeing all of the things that I'd filmed over the years.

Tommy: I mean, the closest you get is plugging in a hard drive and like doing some wacky thing that most people don't know how to do. It's searching for file type, like, you know, like categorising it, which is a pain in the ass because it doesn't actually— you can't do anything with it. You're just like finding them. You don't know what folder it's in. It helps. Like, like, do you think this kind of shit is going to become automated one day? Like You'll say, I want a video of my pa, and you put his face in and you write a few specific bits. Like you remember, you know, footage from when we were eating schnitzel. I feel like that's what you and your pa would do.

Josh: Google. Yeah, we would have had cheese and gherkins. But the— it's called Kyno. K-Y-N-O is the program. And it's described as media management and workflow software. And so, um, it has— yeah, it's got a lot of interesting features. But just that has been one of the things that we've been trying to work out, the best media manager to be able— like, we think about all the highlights videos that we put together. Yeah, being able to, you know, streamline that even further.

Tommy: I mean, okay, this is a great moment to sort of share with you because I could use Kyno. For something I'm thinking about. What do you think about me starting a YouTube channel for Bodhi?

Josh: Oh great, I love that.

Tommy: What do you think? Bodhi loves— his new thing is watching other YouTubers, like kids, like, and then I watch their wacky dads and I'm over there, but Bodhi's just consuming the content. I'm over there going, I'd fucking make a better video than this. I'd nail this. That dad, daggy. I'm cool dad.

Josh: And so what would the content be?

Tommy: This is— I feel like, I mean, are the dads— this is before we get to the content— are the dads creating shit that they just want to and their kiddies are along for the ride? That's what I'm trying to work out.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: Or is it— so for instance, Buddy's 3 and a half.

Josh: Yeah. He loves YouTube.

Tommy: But he loves it. He can find YouTube on my dad's phone when my dad doesn't even think he has YouTube on his phone. And my dad called it Google. He's like, he found Google.

Josh: How did he find it? Oh, watching videos.

Tommy: Legit, he— I reckon he went to the browser, probably typed it in. No. Well, we were somehow—

Josh: we were talking, uh, using our like business phone stuff, and, uh, Bodhi had your mobile phone I'm on the phone to you and then I'm like, Tommy Jacket's calling me. I'm like, what have you done? What buttons have you— what's going on? And you're like, that's Bodhi. And I answered, I just said hello. He said, hello Josh. I was like, hey Bodhi. And then he clicked FaceTime and then he starts accepting.

Tommy: He's like, you hung up on me. You're like, mate, I gotta call, I gotta speak to Bodhi. No, but so Um, yeah, that's what I'm trying to work out. Other parents, is it just purely for their sake? Or— so there's two things. Bodhi loves— and this is where I don't know, you gotta tell me, have I got a blind spot? I think Bodhi loves adventures. I think Bodhi loves trying shit for the first time, going down hills. He likes sort of adrenaline. He likes, um, playing a bit rough, uh, you know, crashing and tumbling cars, jumping, doing parkour. Like the kid is a sort of, he's multifaceted, left-handed, you know. Is he left-handed? Skateboards. Yeah, he's left-handed, left-handed. Skates with his skates natural though. There's a bunch of sort of, you know, he's a quirky dude. Yeah, he's a funny guy. Laughs, you know, loves talking to people. And so I just thought—

Josh: Have you brought the idea to it? Do you think that it would blow his mind if he had his own YouTube channel?

Tommy: Oh, he loves, he's a little narcissist, loves watching himself back.

Josh: Yeah. Loves watching himself back. We spoke about, I remember, I think it was when I was in Turkey, I just had this moment where I'm like, these experiences would be great having you with Bodhi.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Like him experiencing some of this stuff for the first time. And I think I messaged you, I was like, you should do a travel, like when Bodhi's old enough, I know what, like 5? Yeah. You should go and do you know, go to these different places and, you know, film the experience.

Tommy: Well, I think as Bodhi's brand consultant, Josh, what would you sort of advise him on in terms of longevity of his channel? You know, because if he opens the doors as this sort of kiddie channel but doesn't have room to grow, you know, he's gonna— he's the guy who starts the prank channel and then wants to do self-development on the same channel.

Josh: No, I get that. I get that.

Tommy: Um, Bodhi's World, something like that.

Josh: Yeah, that's good. Yeah, Bodhi's World. The good thing, like, Bodhi isn't that much of a common name, and so we do have options around what it's called.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, because there's— in saying that though, there's, um, there is, you know, some things There is a few Bodhi, because I think people have gone to it as like, that's— they've had that same thinking. Cute. Bodhi is the tree, the tree Buddha sat under. So, there is a connection. So, you'll at least find a few yoga centres with the name Bodhi in it. Or spin bike.

Josh: Greg on the YouTube chat, because we stream live as well. He just said, even though she doesn't upload videos, my daughter finishes her videos with like and subscribe. Greg, that is awesome. I love that.

Tommy: Imagine if, um, Bodhi collabed with Greg, Greg's daughter.

Josh: That'd be great.

Tommy: But I was thinking, like, it's as I, you know, like, there's something in me that's almost like I love creating content for myself, and we've got the show where we, we create content for, you know, there's a lot of fulfilment that comes out of working with other creators too that, that we're now sort of, you know, um, we're experiencing, which I see that as an opportunity for Bodhi and the stuff I, you know, this kid has a back, this kid could use Kyno. Like, think about all the footage I have of Bodhi. Yeah, yeah, the kid has. But then I, then I'm like, what are the boundaries in terms of, you know, what do you think about someone who, if you met someone like this kid, like for example, I was watching, I can't remember the name of it, There's this family in the States and he has like 3 daughters and they're all vlogging. But then you cut to the dad. The dad's like a nerdy dude. And I was like, the kids are cooler than the dad. Yeah. But then I was like, imagine this guy. He's just like, his house is overrun with like 3 little vloggers. Influencers. Influencers. No, dude, these, these girls all have their own Instagrams, like over a million in each, and then they have YouTube channels. They are ginormous, but, but they're calling the shots in that household.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so what do you think that this is? I'm thinking about all of this. I think that it would be good to get something— we need to play to Bodhi's strength, strengths right now. So I think it's a video stuff. I'd love for him to start a podcast early, and I'll tell you why. I think I think of that most kids, they're not excited by— kids aren't excited by podcasts, right? Yeah, yeah. And so I think that there's the opportunity of him building the audience on YouTube, and then we can have the podcast, you know, big media company network. He can have his own show that then he can syphon that YouTube audience, the younger people across to his podcast.

Tommy: And you'll set him up a mailing list.

Josh: Yeah, you get all that sort of stuff set up.

Tommy: All the trimmings with the big media company network.

Josh: What about TikTok for Bodhi? Is he too young for TikTok?

Tommy: Too young.

Josh: To care about it.

Tommy: Too young to care about it. He doesn't care about anything other than doing his own, you know, like he loves doing shit like strapping a monster truck to the front of my electric skateboard and then we go skating. And he's just like, you know, like he's right into just sort of doing shit that feels good. But I don't know if, yeah, I would like him to sort of have the emphasis on creating over consuming as he grows up, which is—

Josh: What about something that has both of you in it equally? So rather than Bodhi being the star, what about if it's so, So Bodhi was born, what, 2016? 2016. 2016, is that right? Uh, yeah, he's 4, isn't he? No, is he 3?

Tommy: He's 3. He's 3. 2017. 2017 then.

Josh: Yeah, fuck, mate, I think 2017. 2017. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, Feb 14th, uh, 2017.

Tommy: Got pregnant in 2016. It fucks my head up. You're pregnant, you know, you're 9 months, it's all happening.

Josh: I see how it works.

Tommy: The—

Josh: But there could be something around like '88 and 2017, like 1988 v 2017. Oh, yeah. Or just something around you introducing Bodhi to all of the cool things from your childhood.

Tommy: Oh, yeah. From 1988. So, you do one new, one old. So, you do modern day, back in the day.

Josh: You could start it at '88, realising that at the start you don't even know. So, this is the tricky bit.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: If you do it from '88, you're not going to know the trend necessarily because you were just born. And Bodhi wouldn't have known it either. And so, potentially there's a risk in you both not being that into whatever the thing is that you're showing.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: So who's it for?

Tommy: What's it for? If— who watches these channels? Like, I see what Bodhi watches and he's into, and it's like, do you think that you—

Josh: it wouldn't be good having you in it as much?

Tommy: So, oh no, no, I think, I think it definitely would be fine. It's more about what the— what— who would watch this type of content, and, um, and then what that is like. Is, is it too layered? For a child to understand going through the years of different shit because they just want to see the, you know, truck smashing in or out on the adventure down the skate park.

Josh: Sure. Um, it's, uh, but then you also have issues with YouTube nowadays of like being demonetized if you like. They've gotten real strict on, uh, people who are creating content for kids or with kids in it. Yeah, well, I mean, and so there's no one making money But I mean, well, it's just, I think that it was, it used to be, going back 3 years ago, the biggest money makers were toy unboxings and stuff like that. But I think potentially those things have changed.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Anyway, it's, it's definitely something I'm thinking and working on. Okay, so I reckon I like this.

Josh: So what other, if we were to come up with, do we need to run a content session with him? We do a, a workshop that we do with creators. Do we run him through, do you reckon he would be— have any sense or no?

Tommy: I mean, if you asked him what he likes, he might tell you.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Cars, you know, he might tell you a few things, but he does like experiencing things and he's brave so that you could— I mean, it's probably worth pulling out some of the traits from me and then you could work out and throw some ideas to him based on those understandings and be like, Bode, would you like blah, blah, blah? And see what he says. And so maybe it'd be like a choose your own adventure channel. So, Bode could have like on the wall. Imagine if you came up with a whole bunch of ideas and then you just have him pick one, but he doesn't know what he's picking. And so, it's like he doesn't know what he's up for. It's almost like an advent calendar of content.

Josh: I had the thought after having dad on the podcast via phone. On Sunday. Yeah. Did I tell you Dan Illich emailed? He said he was in hysterics in a cafe in Bondi. But, um, I was thinking about— it's like, it's, it's a risky, risky business getting Richard Jansen on, on the podcast. You don't know what he was going to— what he's going to say. But I was thinking about the American thing, and I was thinking how fun would it be to do— this is more for me, I don't know if the audience would like it. Or if it would even have an audience. But the Jansons travel America. And so it would be so good. So, Jake Janson, my brother James Janson, Richard, Lynn. But it's like the 3 boys. Yeah. And then Rich and Lynn. But it's like we're all in the back and mum and dad are at the front. And it's like doing the family road trips.

Tommy: Do you know that today Kim Kardashian posted saying that Keeping Up with the Kardashians is finished. And so, move over Kardashians, look out, Keeping Up with the Janssens.

Josh: Well, there could be something funny. Like, could you— I could imagine every episode we— because we're all so different. So, Dad loves hot rods and cars. Jake loves like music. James, I mean, James and Jake have a lot of similarities, like in regards like sport and stuff. So, yeah, but I could imagine we all get a day where the family gets to pick. This is like, oh sorry, that person gets to pick what they're doing for the entire family. Oh yeah, because it's just, I just remember the, like, the hot rod show in Melbourne. I was just always so bored. The only good thing about it was I would get one of those, um, hats that would have spray paint. So, they would do like lines and stuff. They'd do flames. Do you remember those?

Tommy: No, I can't say my dad took me to hot rod shows.

Josh: Okay. So, yeah, it was a, yeah, like it starts off as a white hat, like a baseball cap. And then they, you point which flames you like, you know how you see like flames on cars. And they actually do like the air, like spray paint thing and they—

Tommy: Yeah, it's like the It's like the— I was watching a video with Bodhi, monster truck car details, and they've got that sort of airbrush paint and they— Airbrush paint. Yeah, I could imagine similar stuff. You have to, I think, emphasise the characters a lot. And so what would— what would just run through sort of the boys in your family? What would Jake Jansen be? What would his character like? Just a couple of traits on the characters of the reality show. As much as these shows are humans, They're definitely emphasised, you know.

Josh: I think that the— If I go back to what we were like as kids, I think you'd have to use that as the benchmark.

Tommy: Great. Yeah.

Josh: But I think that we've— This is the problem, right? I think that we've probably changed enough. Maybe we've evolved too much that there wouldn't be as many fights, maybe.

Tommy: Mate, you put you all together and just throw in some, you know, a couple of boys who are hungry. I'm sure we'll get some.

Josh: Well, even when it was Father's Day, we called up, we FaceTimed with all of them. And James, who we've had many fights, like he's the oldest, I'm the youngest, and he's the one that I've got the Fitbit fight about. He thought Fitbit was going to be big. I didn't, and I was right. Anyway, the— he was— I was telling him about drafts. And straight away he's like, "Why? Why?" So, "Oh, it's like you can do this." Like, "You can do that in notes?" I was like, "Okay." And then I said, I made my joke. I'm like, "Oh, as an epidemiologist." And then Mum says, "You know, James is basically an epidemiologist." And then James is like, "Yeah." And I like, he's a sports scientist. Like, you know, he's definitely done some credits, whatever they're called, in epidemiology. I don't know if that makes you an epidemiologist, but it's hard to argue. It's just funny how everything becomes a little bit of an argument. I said, yeah, I've just been watching the baseball.

Tommy: Why?

Josh: Baseball's a shit sport. I was like, oh, you know, I like it. I was like, we're actually going to get into the, um, the, the NFL. First game is on September 14th, my birthday. And, uh, why? But like, basketball's way better than NFL. And then, and like, so James is more sort of abrasive in that way. And then Jake—

Tommy: okay, that's great.

Josh: Then, but then Jake agrees with James, but he's a little bit sort of more sort of, uh, on my side of things. And so Jake's like, well, middle brother. Yeah, he's like, why not? Like yeah, basketball is great. Like, and then so I try and come up with some sort of excuse that they argue. And so I was just like, I sort of said, you know, I get basketball. I think I've like, you know, basically clocked it, you know. What you're trying to do, yeah, just, just pisses them off more, you know. It's just like, no, I think I know everything. Like, I think basketball is just— I know the rules, I know everything there is. Which I've never really watched baseball, but fuck, it pissed him off.

Tommy: That sums up growing up in a house of 3 siblings. Your older, your younger and your middle, and just how the sort of fighting goes.

Josh: Well, I said to like, James doesn't even, he can't even, he's not much of a, like he doesn't like self-deprecation. So, he especially doesn't like when, if I make fun. And so, I said to him, I said, Um, we got on the— got on the phone on FaceTime. I said, um, when was the last time you played golf? He said, like, fucking 12 months ago. I'm like, oh yeah, why, why do you wear polo shirts every day then? I thought that was a fucking funny joke. It's like, this isn't a golf shirt. It's just getting rid of like an Under Armour, like fucking, it's definitely a sweat-wicking polo. Um, anyway, no, I actually, I do, I do enjoy the banter. And then after the conversation, after the FaceTime, because I know what James, I know that he likes, um, like he likes being organised and he was big into Evernote and all that sort of thing. And so after the FaceTime, when everyone was gone, he then did message me and said, hey, uh, do you have any links to video tutorials on Drafts? Yeah, so he could be on Drafts right now.

Tommy: Come around. Well, he needs to get onto Kyno as well.

Josh: Well, I mean, Kyno is very much a, uh, uh, an industry fit. Like, yeah, that's— if you're wanting something that has some of the features of Kyno Uh, I would, I would suggest to people, uh, Google Photos is great because Google Photos, you can bring everything in, you can sort, you can sort of, um, it's, it's got great features. Kyno is more like a post-production house thing where it's like, yeah, is it, um, yeah, how much are we gonna have to be paying for this? Well, so this is the— so it's, it's like, I think it's like $250 a seat or something, but then there's like a there's an enterprisey sort of version for a couple of grand, which if, if it's something that you— I'm going to be using on a project I'm working on now.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, it could.

Josh: If it actually, if it actually works and it's the thing that everyone starts using, and if it connected to our— like, we've got a big QNAP, like, so, um, uh, network attached storage. So we have I don't know how many, uh, 14 terabytes of RAID 5 or whatever, like, um, storage, which, uh, we can— we have like a— the ability to do, uh, to connect up to that drive, to those drives, um, all in on different computers. And we can do it like through a 10 gigabit connection at the office. But imagine, um, we could all have Kyno on our computers, and then you can be referencing the NAS. So you can be seeing all the files that are on the NAS, but then you can build out like, um, uh, yeah, we could build out different tags. So it could be— think about all the stuff that, um, GB has done with Hump Day and being able to, to put things together. So we could create, uh, really like bring in our transcription stuff that we've been doing, being able to put together highlight packages and fun shit really quickly.

Tommy: Yeah, it's fun. It's, um, I could maybe start using on Bodhi's YouTube channel. Just start, uh, one thing I'd like is one thing I would like just on the YouTube channel. Yeah, I would like depth within it to be able to, uh, do self-development for younger kids. Think about, you know, you got the fun stuff, but then you've got the life lessons with Bodhi.

Josh: Yep.

Tommy: And dad. And so where you actually walk away thinking about, ah, what does resilience mean? Or what is, you know, mental health? What's, you know, why should we care about that? Or why should we talk about what's going on in our head, thinking about thinking, you know, metacognition.

Josh: I like that. And so how do you, um, like, what's like, I guess, like, yeah, what's the format?

Tommy: Well, his mum's drawing up a contract that we're going to get him to sign. No, I don't know. This is— I'll think about it.

Josh: Do you think Amy would be on board?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. But I think like any idea you bring to your partner, they sort of— we're more excited about it than the partners. To be honest, it's a lot of work for myself over her. But that's why I only think—

Josh: you need a professional voiceover artist.

Tommy: Well, yeah, I can't wait. Like, I just wonder, that's what I'm thinking about, is like more of the morally, like, he wants to be in it, um, obviously now, but then what do you get to a point where you just cut it off and you give him the choice, um, of being a part of something?

Josh: Yeah, maybe, um Yeah, what's the— because you can see it going pear-shaped, or you can see it being just like— if you think about child stars and how fucked up they are, what is the— what's the version of a child star for a reality show? Yeah, is that worse, or is that like— I feel like that would be worse because then everything that's happened— and this is different, you're not saying a reality show.

Tommy: No, no, no, no.

Josh: Stop motion is great. Kids love stop motion.

Tommy: Yeah, and so stop motion, claymation.

Josh: Yeah, you're right, some like cheapo apps on like the, um, using like— this is what to do. Okay, you ready? You've asked for the advice, I'll give it to you. Uh, iPad, delete all, uh, consumption apps. Yeah, get rid of Netflix, get rid of YouTube, all of that sort of thing. Just have creation tools. And so then when Bodhi is on the app, like on his iPad, it's all creating, making. Imagine if he was starting to do like full-blown animation, like let's get him on the professional tools.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I like that.

Josh: Making videos, get him starting, edit it like Maybe there is something in that. Maybe we, we could get him to do— start doing some basic editing, understanding shortcuts.

Tommy: That might— that'd be good.

Josh: Is it too soon?

Tommy: Well, way too soon. He loves, um, he loves doing the camera. He does enjoy sort of getting that out. And, um, so, so yeah, you could have taken photos.

Josh: Should we give him the GoPro at the office that that can be his camera? So you can fuck it up.

Tommy: I've got an iPad, an old one, which, yeah, you could definitely get rid of all the junk on there.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then, um, just use it for, for creating. I do like that because then you get, um, his point of view on a few scenes if you get him interested in taking, taking it outside to film his monster trucks. And then he respects the craft too. There's nothing like talent who doesn't understand how the tools work.

Josh: You know, but there's, there's so much in the, um, like getting out and filming you. And like when I was a kid, like the catch cry from my mum— she's very supportive— but when I would be filming her all the time, she'd be like, Josh, get out of my face! Because I'd be just like— she'd be fucking cooking or whatever, I'd just be zooming, I'd be checking fucking white balance or trying to work out like how much I can zoom in. If I zoom into a nose, would it still be in focus? You know, shit like that. So you're just being real, but I like it. Fun.

Tommy: Yeah, I like it. Yeah, it's definitely something in the works too, haven't I?

Josh: I feel a bit fucking— after that hit, it's like a, it's like a junkie, just selecting all, like, all of your files like that and just be watching videos. I'm sending like Blaj, there's a bit like I was just randomly filming Blaj. He's just like, the shit that wasn't good when at the time when you filmed it is the gold now. So it's just like me testing out a camera and our mate Blaj is like speaking to his business partner at the time. He's like, oh mate, if we charge double, we'll do it. Just like, just having business, like real dumb business conversations. Very funny.

Tommy: I love it. I'm gonna get into that program.

Josh: For sure, maybe a day free trial.

Tommy: Use that to build out an intro video for Bodhi's YouTube channel and then just have, have it as a, you know, welcome. I'm going to work out the name. We'll workshop the name. If you have a name for Bodhi's YouTube channel that you think, let me know.

Josh: Um, Bodhi's— Bodhi, let me— I'll tell you right now because my favourite thing to do is seeing what the, um, what domain names are available. So So the, um, oh yeah, hang on, if I type in Bodhi, Bodhi does, Bodhi, Bodhi does. You could get, um, uh, bodhi.institute, bodhi.money, bodhi.fitness, bodhi.news. So this is dot, like, yeah, now bodhi.tv. Bode.coffee, bode.expert. Let me have a look. Let's see if—

Tommy: Bode expert. Oh, here comes the child star.

Josh: Here we go. Can I get him on? Can I say hello to him?

Tommy: Nah, nah, he's not in a good way. As he's, um— I feel like I'm Michael Jackson's dad. Sorry, mate, he's not doing well right now.

Josh: Um, bode.capital, if he was doing some sort of investment.

Tommy: Um, mate, these are all potential shows for the future. If my dad thought about it, Bodhi.tv is $5,000.

Josh: I don't think it's worth it at that time. At that point, just change his name. Alrighty, uh, anyway, thank you everyone. If you are enjoying the show, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Tell a mate as well. And if you tell a mate, let us know that you have. Um, and if you don't feel like telling a single person The other great thing you could do is share on Instagram. Do an Instagram post now. Maybe do a, do a throwback or something with some old footage that you found. Tag us up, whatever it is. Maybe you can just tell people that you're listening. We want people to know that we're, we're still live and doing this thing.

Tommy: And you know, we love you guys.

Josh: All right, enjoy the rest of your day, guys. Have a good one. See ya.

Tommy: See you tomorrow.