Farts & Niche Jobs

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 823.

Tommy: Weekend banter. What's happening, Gronks? What's going on, Georgie boy? Welcome back to the show. How are you, mate?

George: Hello guys, how are you?

Tommy: Great.

Josh: Open, open, strong, real strong. I mean, the applause— can I just say that I'm very good at setting the level for the applause. You've got a bit of an issue with yours.

George: It's always just up full. Yeah, I need to work on that.

Josh: It needs to be subtle. So for how high replay— and I was, um, a bit loud, isn't it? It's only small. What am I hearing here? I'm hearing—

Mason: yeah, where is that coming through?

Tommy: George, George, I think you've got YouTube over.

Josh: You're sending me something better.

Tommy: You've got YouTube open about GBG or something coming.

Josh: If I was to say Oh no, I actually thought it was mine. I don't have any left. You've pressed the— turn it all the way down, please. So what's happened is George has sound pads. You're playing me, my audio, and so you have it set up so that you can throw grabs, and you've pressed that and you've had the sound up. You're not great when it comes to the RODECaster mixer.

Tommy: Should we at least do a bit where we play that grab and then we'll talk about that grab?

Josh: What was the grab? Do you want to play the grab?

George: You can play the grab, George. Here we go. Okay, well You see, the problem is in the RODECaster, you have these little ear green lights down the bottom where you can hear. If the light's on, then you hear it, but my light was off, so I couldn't hear anything. All right, I'll play the grab then. It was this one.

Josh: There is a huge, huge, huge market, and I think that there is a little pivot. It's only small. I actually really want to support people who are wanting to learn English What do you need from us to make the experience better? Hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Because TJ, how would you feel if I was to say we just change our podcast by 10% from a content perspective and we will triple our audience?

Tommy: Yeah, well, I mean, English is hard and I speak it fluently. A lot of true points in that. Where have we landed? Update on that, JJ. I know you kind of did some research after that episode. You were screenshotting. There's another podcast YouTuber who has pretty much found the niche of teaching people how to speak English.

Josh: Yeah, I think that if people who are learning English land on our content, that's great. I don't think we want to fall into the trap of focusing too much on it. Do you agree?

Tommy: No, I agree.

Mason: A little bit of a backflip?

Josh: No, it's not a backflip at all, mate. I couldn't backflip if my life depended on it. You would get half right. It's more of a roll. I've rolled over.

Tommy: You could do some camera effects, film from the top, make it look like you're doing a backflip on the ground, and then show that you're actually lying down the whole time.

Josh: Yeah, it's a nightmare.

Tommy: No, no, no, I agree.

Josh: I don't know how you managed to affect us with your technical stuff. Like, it all felt pretty easy. I did hear though on Luke and Lewis's podcast, Jack Post was on their show and the whole RODECaster fell on the floor and played like 4 grabs at once over the top of their show. And so this is our equivalent. Very annoying.

Tommy: Well, our equivalent was probably worse when we accidentally pulled out the cord and we lost the whole recording and it was one of the best pieces of content we'd ever done. Walkie-talkie content. We'd managed to walkie-talkie somebody all the way to the city from our office in Collingwood. And then, oh, so many other things happen. This is, this is the game we're playing, guys. You up for losing? Up for losing either your marbles or your audiophiles? And Josh is close to losing his marbles.

Josh: Well, I am, because last night something very traumatic happened.

Tommy: Oh no.

Josh: So, are you guys Milo guys? Do you like Milo?

Tommy: To be honest, yeah, I love it.

George: I like it when I drink it.

Tommy: Hot or cold? Hands up if you've bought the shit in the last 10 years.

Josh: Like, really, who's putting my hand up?

Tommy: It's not me personally. It's something that I—

George: In the house.

Tommy: Okay, someone's bought. Dude, it's— I've had it in the last 10 years, but I feel like it's something that was just in my pantry as a kid.. And I was like so wrapped about it.

Josh: Yeah. I mean, is it— I feel like people were either Milo families or Nesquik families. Do you think that's true? Did you have both?

Tommy: We had both.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: We had both. We had both. We even had those straws. Even all those straws with chocolate inside them. And then you suck chocolate balls.

Josh: And so, what's the difference? What's the main difference, do you think, between a Nesquik and a Milo?

Tommy: Oh, completely different.

Mason: Nesquik's finer.

George: Nesquik's a lot thinner.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep. And so it really, really dissolves. Yeah. Whereas, uh, you're getting something like Milo.

George: In Milo, I used to always find it crazy when you'd fill up the glass with milk and it would float to the top but it wouldn't be wet.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, love that, love that, love that. It would come up and it would then turn and be like, yeah, fucking, I didn't want to be down the bottom, why are you putting me down the bottom? But then, so it's like, it's almost a meal. Milo really gave you the sense that you were having a cheeky little afternoon snack versus it being a drink.

Josh: Well, Bree's wanting—

Mason: Naughty.

Josh: Yeah, well, Bree's wanting Milo to be our slightly not so bad for you dessert that we have in the evenings. What do you think?

Tommy: First of all, mate, your house is an app— Your house literally is like if you got 6-year-olds and put them into a share house. I watched this episode of like Crazy Kids or something where they took this house and they put them in there and had cameras everywhere and said, you gotta fend for yourselves for 24 hours. And it was all above board, not sort of, you know, dangerous for the kids. They trashed this fucking joint. I know you guys don't do that, but in terms of what they were eating, it's literally your place. They've got drink in the fridge, that's their food, and now they're considering dessert before they work out what they are able to even cook.

Josh: Well, so the— where it all went wrong though is, so we did it last night. And we had Milo. I'm not a Milo guy. Bri heated up her Milo. I decided to have my Milo cold and it tasted horrendous. It was very, very bad. The worst. Terrible.

Tommy: Well, but if you're not a Milo guy, you— of course, you're not going to like it. Were you the Nesquik guy, though?

Josh: Well, I don't think I was either. I don't know. I don't like milkshakes. I like thick shakes. I'm more of an ice cream guy rather than a milk guy, if that makes sense. You mean you like ice cream versus a milkshake?

Tommy: Milk drink.

Josh: Yeah, well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would never drink a Big M. Yeah, just as a drink. Okay. Yeah, now that would be a dare or something, but not as in a dare, as in someone do it to me, not as in dare ice coffee. But do you know what, I worked out what it was. The Milo was 30% less added sugar.

George: Oh, which, oh no. I've had that recently as well. It's a different thing.

Josh: Is it with Milo or is it being something else?

George: I thought it was sugar. It was a Milo. Yeah, it was a less sugar Milo, but it was, it doesn't taste like Milo at all.

Josh: No, 'cause they put, so Bree, so I straight away picked up on it. Like I took one little sip and I said, "No, no, baby doesn't like," like, "Meh," start crying, you know? And Bree tasted it then. I feel like Bree should always taste it before I taste it just to, to cheque on things, to make sure I'm going to be okay. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: That's what I do with Bodhi.

Josh: Yeah, I know. That's the idea. But it turns out that they actually put stevia in the Milo to replace that sugar.

Tommy: Okay.

Mason: So, Bree was onto it quickly.

Josh: Yeah, very quickly.

Tommy: Onto the flavour of it?

Josh: She understood the stevia thing very quickly. We were playing Monopoly at the time. Mason got to see this unfold. And at first everyone was like, Josh is just being a child. As soon as Bree took a sip, she picked up on it, Googled it, worked out what the issue was. She actually said she took one sip and said, there's stevia in this and my tummy's sore.

Tommy: Oh really? Dude, I'll tell you just around the sort of the substitutes for sugar, I, you know, when you, You trying to get, you're trying to get lean and then you just fall into this head fuck of like wanting to have something sweet, but then you don't want the sugar and so you end up landing on sugar-free. And it could be some, I got the, I got packets of marshmallows that were sugar-free and these other lollies. My, oh my God, I've never had so much wind in my life. It was horrendous, horrendous. It's something in it. What is that doing to your stomach?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What is that?

Josh: It can't be good. Yeah, what is gas? How does it work? It's a good question.

Mason: I've had such reactions and stuff going on.

Josh: There's no flora. Like, you know, people talk about stomach— like, my guts have been completely stripped of any sort of flora.

Mason: Bacteria. Yeah, bacteria.

Josh: Yeah, it's just—

Tommy: well, it's a—

Mason: so I guess it's gut flora.

Tommy: So example includes having wind or food intolerance. So it's coming from a food. So I've recently, like literally last night, very, very gassy. And I was trying to think about what I'd consumed yesterday. No, no, hummus, dude. I had way too much hummus. I need to find out.

Josh: So the fish or the—

Tommy: The other day, no, no, no, no. Hummus, hummus, um, because I was thinking, what is it? It's a chickpea. And so when you're starting to like lentils, like getting in those legume space, you think— Bodhi and I got stuck into it and we ate a lot of hummus. Hummus causing wind.

Mason: Was this Yummies?

Tommy: Yep, yep, the yellow, the yellow one.

Josh: I think your theory is flawed based on— I reckon you could, um, you could type in any type of food and say wind or gas and it would come up.

Tommy: Okay, okay, let me do it. Let me first do it for— okay, I'll do it for something else.

George: Chocolate?

Tommy: No, no, no, no, I think— no, no, um, let's go like broccoli and wind. So you've gone to the obvious.

Josh: Flattulence, here you go. Why is chocolate an obvious one?

Tommy: Uh, because it's sugar, and sugar is just an absolute chemical for your body.

Josh: Just name any food. So yeah, you've done broccoli.

Mason: I think you're just saying vegetables.

Tommy: Cale, broccoli, and cabbage are cruciferous vegetables which contain, uh, raffinose, and a sugar that remains undigested until bacteria in your gut— oh my God, in brackets, which Josh doesn't have— ferment it, which produce gas and in turn make you bloat. But don't shun those healthy greens just yet.

Josh: What do you think? So, I just typed in alcohol and before I even got to finish it, the second one down is flatulence.

George: What else is there?

Tommy: I haven't been drinking. Dude, look at the hummus. I was spot on. Bean dips like hummus, which is made of gas-causing carbanzo beans, AKA chickpeas.

Josh: Chicken nuggets, flatulence. My fart smells like Burger King chicken nuggets.

Tommy: Can I, can you just say what you— We've bought the same couch as you guys.

Josh: Oh, congratulations.

Tommy: I texted you and said, what couch do you got? Because I came into your house.

Josh: It's the Marie. Looks great. Secret Sofa, is it? Or whatever.

Tommy: Yeah, whatever that place. I didn't buy it, to be honest. Amy did, but she's bought it. The only caveat you put around the couch was—

Josh: It's a fart holder. It's a fart holder. And so Bree says, do not fart into the couch because what will happen is I'll fart in the couch. And then 3 hours go by and Bree will sit on the couch and go, what fucking stinks? And it's the couch. So we have to have— we Glen 20 it probably once a week.

George: Jeez. No, I actually need to know these tips because— can I tell you guys about a game that we're planning on playing as a house?

Josh: Oh, here we go. Hey, you farted.

George: We came up with the idea a few days ago, and it was, do you think that you could tell whose fart is whose? Yes, based on sound alone.

Josh: Oh, sound alone. Oh yeah, sound alone is a lot harder than smell.

Tommy: I know Michael Jackson's fart.

George: So there's 4 of us in the house, 4 of us in the house, and we're trying to work out how we would measure it. So it's like, you know, we have to record our farts into voice memos during the week.

Josh: Yeah.

George: And then when it's game time, we present 3 each. But the problem is we need to keep them secret so you don't know whose is whose.

Josh: Yeah.

George: So we're gonna load them onto iTunes.

Josh: I thought you're gonna put them in your soundboard on your Rodecaster.

Mason: That's even better.

George: But because we need someone to be able to play them out but without knowing whose is whose, you know, so can't say like Oh, I'm happy to do it.

Josh: Yeah, that's what you're about to ask me, isn't it, George? You want me on Zoom with the RODECaster and you want me to present them all?

George: That's not a bad idea because one of the ideas we had was we'd each have our own speaker, like our own UE Boom, and we'd secretly, we'd face away from each other and we'd have ours loaded up and we'd secretly, we'd go, okay, you draw your number out of a hat, who goes in what order, but no one can see who's pressing go next. Yeah, but then we only have 3 speakers, so—

Tommy: Please do content.

Josh: Josh, can you be— I'd be happy to do that. Chief Farter. Yeah, the fart facilitator.

Mason: Fart facilitator.

George: Yeah.

Mason: Oh my God.

Josh: I love this. When is it happening, GB?

George: Well, probably in the next couple of days, I reckon.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: This is amazing.

Mason: And what are you doing to prepare?

Tommy: Just to prep.

George: Probably today, probably this weekend.

Tommy: You don't live in a frat house full of boys.

Josh: You got your sister, your girlfriend.

Tommy: Is the cat getting involved?

George: We've been living together a long time. Yeah, no, he's—

Josh: I mean, it's a classic ISO game, isn't it?

George: Is it?

Josh: I mean, so the thing is, so looking at this, my fart smells like Burger King chicken nuggets. This is on Reddit. This is a year ago. I mean, what are people— So I'll just read it because I'm just curious of what people are saying. So I went vegan about 8 months ago and, and the farting has gone down, and I've started learning the ins and outs of what to eat and what not to eat and what flares up my flatulence. But ever since I stopped eating dairy, uh, and, and meat, my farts, when they happen, have smelt like Burger King chicken nuggets. It's revolting and honestly makes me gag. It's like they cling on to the air and spread slowly around a room. I have to keep a window open and an air freshener nearby at all times. The question in all of this is, has anyone else experienced oddly smelling flatulence since converting? This is in the Vegan Fitness Reddit.

Mason: This is someone said absolutely a thing. Yeah, fiber, having that fibre going through you, like bananas. If you have over 4 bananas a day, your farts aren't going to be good.

Josh: Do you think I should be? So I was, we had a meeting earlier and I felt like I was quite clear and focused. I was like, what's different? I was like, fuck, I ate a banana. And so I was like, maybe the potassium, maybe I can become the potassium guy.

Tommy: Just become the guy who eats food guy.

Josh: Well, that's what I did, the banana was great.

Tommy: Yeah, but just to be the potassium banana boy.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know, I don't wanna go full on, but someone says try the FODMAP. Which Bree has done the FODMAP. I think that she actually should be on FODMAP, but just pushes it. Like how many people have food intolerances but just deal with the flatulence?

Mason: Shitting in your pants, yeah.

Tommy: I think people need to learn the hard way. So if you do FODMAP, which is probably not the thing that needs to be done for everybody, but probably pretty safe. Because if you realise how, if you've like, oh my God, I can feel, you don't know you're better until you feel better. Like if you've always felt like shit in your life, guts. That's normal at that point. And so you can't really tell the difference. And so if you're— that's what my brother did and realised it's onion, realised it's all these things, realised that he wasn't even— it was something about not necessarily lactose intolerant or one of these things. He was like, he worked out that it— he thought it was something, so he was avoiding it like the plague. And then had to— probably can't say that.

Josh: It's a bit insensitive, isn't it?

Tommy: It's a bit insensitive. 20 years' time. Um, anyway, back to the fart thing. Bodhi said to me, the cutest little kid, he said to me this morning, uh, Daddy, I, I didn't fart in my bed. I said, no, you can fart in your bed, it's fine. He said, no, you'll make it dirty. And it's so cute because he thinks that it's going to make the—

Josh: when Daddy makes the farts in his bed, does Bodhi piss himself when he's in bed?

Tommy: I was saying this the other day, I'm so proud of him. It's been probably 4, 5, maybe 6 months that he is fully toilet trained, except for at nighttime. He has to wear the nappy at night. And the way you get them off is either let them piss their bed, which we're not up for, or you encourage them to go to the toilet before they go to bed while they've still got the nappy on. And then when it becomes less wet in their nappy, like once it's pretty dry when they're waking up, you can take it off and start to try and Could you just tell him to change his focus?

Josh: Go, mate, fart all you want, just stop pissing yourself.

Tommy: Nah, I mean, you have to worry about shit then.

Josh: Is he shitting himself during the night too?

Tommy: No, no, no, he is.

Mason: If you're focusing on the farts, pushing them out.

Josh: Yeah, so maybe that is a protection.

Tommy: Yeah, like at 3, you're realising that a poo in your pants feels good Feels no good. Feels like horrible. You did that, remember? You said, didn't you say you're like, couldn't be bothered and I used to push one out in my pants? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: You just, it just doesn't feel good. Just sitting watching TV and you should be like laying down. So it's like, yeah, I remember that the stage as a kid where you would, you would be laying down and having sort of your ass up so you're shitting so it doesn't squish into like, so then you can just go and Drop it off. Like, it's almost like drop it off, drop it off in the toilet. Like, what a— shut up, George.

Tommy: I've got the name of your game.

Josh: If you're old enough to then shit and then go to the toilet and drop it into the toilet, you're probably old enough to leave home. Fuck off. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, Georgie boy.

Josh: I was paying rent. I was paying board.

Tommy: The name of your game Whose fart is it anyway?

Josh: That's great.

George: That is good.

Josh: That is very good. See that applause, GB?

George: I know. I'm never touching the roadcaster again.

Josh: Do you want to just test? Can you show me how loud you normally have it? How loud you had it during, uh, your episode?

George: I normally have it up like—

Josh: okay, play how you normally do it. Yeah, so the problem is You want it there?

Tommy: That's quite clear.

George: There.

Tommy: That's quite—

Josh: that was sort of a quarter way. The problem is too, when using Zoom, it's doing all that audio ducking.

Tommy: I felt like I'd achieved something, to be honest. I felt good about myself in that moment. There's something about a clap, like being clapped for. What do you like about it? Yeah, kids love it, you know, narcissists clap when they're adults.

Josh: Yeah, we used to do that a lot. Remember when we were just like, anytime a guest would come in, ah, clap him in, clap her in.

Tommy: Yeah, it's great. We should bring that back. Sometimes people just like, oh no, like it instantly draws attention towards the thing that you're clapping for. Don't you reckon? It's like, it just even, and then this difference in the clap, like a slow clap adds a different element of like people get it. It's like mate, mate, mate. It's like mate, just the word, the same thing has a different meaning. Clap, just like—

George: Hang on, is this the Australian English language podcast?

Tommy: So, you can use mate in many contexts. You can use it for, you know, inexchangeable for your mates, exchangeable. If your mate is pissing you off, mate.

Josh: Oh, come on, mate. Actually, this does remind me of the— So, the Aussie English podcast that I listen to, the guy is interviewing his dad and they were talking about like, yeah, yeah, mate. Oh, he said, oh, were you on the piss? And then the dad interrupts, he goes, now that's an interesting one, isn't it? On the piss, what is that? And then they deconstruct, 'cause like piss is to urinate, but what we call piss is having a drink. And so being on the piss, it's having what we call a session. So you have a—

George: Is Dan Andrews in the podcast?

Josh: But he's like, you don't just, Being on the piss, you're not just having one drink, you know, it's an all-night sort of thing. It's like the dad's fucking— he doesn't— he's just worked out this whole podcast thing and he's just like, he's been asked by his son just to fucking chat about stuff and just deconstruct words and he's fucking loving life, right?

Mason: How great.

Tommy: And they're fucking flying at 150k subs.

Josh: Yeah, very well.

George: Has there been any uptick in the downloads from the last week from the title?

Josh: Nah, I don't think— uh, Seb, have you noticed any, any change in, in the amount on that specific episode?

Mason: Well, I think that episode did— I think it did, I think it did all right. Like, I was, I was just getting the analytics up just before around, um, how many views it's got. This is 200, and this is just YouTube.

Josh: So YouTube, we get hardly any views, where all of our— like, 90% of our downloads come through audio. So how are we going for YouTube?

Mason: Well, so this is— it's a— it's at sort of the, the upper end. So it's, it's done 266 views so far, and most episodes are probably low 200s with some going into 300s. Okay, so it's either way, it's doing okay. It's doing about average, to be honest.

Josh: Mm-hmm.

George: Worth persisting with the name changes, or—

Mason: well, I think, I think we need some of that SEO juice and forum posts.

Tommy: Josh, I've got an idea. Uh, sorry, that was flatulence. I was just looking at Aussie English, the YouTube channel, and his website.

Josh: Like, the flat—

Tommy: good on him. He's, he's done— like, this dude has done a good job at just like finding a niche that probably isn't that sexy, and he's able to put a whole bunch of marketing efforts into to build like a bit of a funnel to, you know, get people to sign up for his courses, the academy, all of that. Like, I'm sure he's making, you know, a wage for himself. There is— what would you pick? Like, if I had to, and it can't be podcasting because you're too good at it, you're too knowledgeable about it. That's too close to you. What would something that you would have to pick that cannot be something you necessarily love, but the goal was you had to create some kind of following around it based on a need out there, and you had 6 months to do it? What do you reckon you'd pick?

Josh: It's interesting because, I mean, the thing is it's not going to be fun. Like, I think that the problem is Anything.

Tommy: I don't want it to be fun.

Josh: Well, no, no, no, but not— no, but the thing is, it will be fun. This— I feel like I've got such a long list. It won't be funny. It won't be funny. No, because there's so many things I'm interested in. Like, one thing I was thinking of— can I tell you my idea? And we might— I might actually go get the domain name and everything, you know, before this episode goes out.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So the concept— so you've been talking about doing a podcast around mindfulness and stuff and interviewing people. Um, in behind the scenes. The idea that I had was, uh, using the phrase 'it's a comedy.' Okay, so the 'Ah, it's a comedy,' the bit that I do. So it is a podcast where I chat to, uh, comedians, comedy people, whether they're, uh, on the stage or on screen or behind the scenes in the script writing stage and all that sort of thing. It's once a week and I sort of build a niche in that specific area because I think about how many stand-up comedians there are that are quirky as fuck that I'd be like, oh, that'd be an interesting chat. But it's on this— it has a skew to focus on the craft and all that sort of thing.

Tommy: Funny people.

Josh: Funny people. Yeah. What do you think about it as a process?

Tommy: Yeah, it's very specific. It's very, it's in the name.

Josh: It's a comedy. What do you think of the name?

Tommy: Yeah, I like it.

Josh: So, it's a comedyshow.com would have to be the domain name.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah.

Mason: It's a comedy.com is taken.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: And it's a great way. There's a park. It's a park domain and there's a cat like stumbling and falling over. It's asleep.

Josh: What do you think? Like, so the thing this I was thinking about this in like, you know, we encourage, we're encouraging so many people to create podcasts by collaborating with people on making podcasts. How, when do we, when do we branch off and do our, like, when do we do others? Do you think, TJ, have you had a thought about this?

Tommy: Our own show.

Josh: Our own show. Like, well, this will always be the big part of what we do. But the idea of like recording another podcast for us isn't hard.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I think it's, it's the opposite of the approach we're saying for this guy who found something. He might like the English stuff, but I think he's definitely seen like it's a hot, the— his vocab would consist of gap in the market, you know, solving a problem, uh, you know, Google Analytics tells me whatever. It's like, uh, you know, all that stuff I think would be a part of his vernacular to—

Mason: for—

Tommy: and, and drive why he does it.

Josh: So is education a big thing with content? Like, I think so much of it goes to, you know, making podcasts, doing stuff where it's like showing people how to make a podcast, all that sort of stuff. Do you think that from a business perspective, like what would you do? What would your thing be?

Tommy: Yeah, I'm not sure. I feel like where I was pushing you is to like where your strengths lie, I think is in like seeing these obscure approaches. Like you'd be the guy in a past life who would somehow found out how to sell like a, you know, pen caps.

Josh: Yeah, so these are things.

Tommy: And made a lot of money from selling pens.

Josh: I completely get what you mean. That's what I'm trying to dig out.

Tommy: The unsexy version.

Josh: That is definitely so. The education stuff, yeah, there would be heaps around. Um, uh, yeah, what would be— yeah, you'd look at— I feel like there's— there would be heaps in finding a job in, like, in the current climate or whatever, like job finding stuff. So doing something around people who have just lost their job, who potentially want to dabble in freelancing, do something, but also still like the idea of a 9-to-5. You could potentially—

Tommy: I like this one.

Josh: What about this recruitment arm section of it too? So you're also like, yeah, funnelling people in and you're getting a recruitment fee, that type of stuff.

Tommy: Something around a podcast where every episode is— and it's not for us, it's for somebody else— and it's called something around your CV. And so imagine future time, you know, you want your employee to get a good grasp of who you are, and you're able to go on a podcast that the person has a chat with you, and they literally dive into your story, everything, and make it really compelling. And so it's like a podcast episode that serves as a CV, and it's like, it's what you lead with. And so it's like playing to the audio experience, as you can drop it into people's inboxes. Rather than looking, they can hear you rather than looking at sort of words on a piece of paper or on a PDF. You're taken through an audio experience of someone's CV.

Josh: I like that. Yeah, I think there's something around the, um, personal brand stuff that you could do, like, um, helping people, especially people who are transitioning for like new careers or whatever. I think there could be something cool in that.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah, I guess where you kind of— and, and maybe I'm sort of wrong about this guy's approach, Aussie English Podcast, but maybe he fucking loves it. Maybe he's like, his calling years ago was education, and he feels— and, and so then the people who can really win are finding something that it feels like a calling, or it feels like they're meant to be doing it, and then it serves that need and is solving a problem. And then those two combined, you can be super fulfilled in what you do.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And it's, um, and yeah, because not everyone wins in the, in those two sides.

Josh: Mason, what would you do if you had to have another job?

Mason: Another job? Oh, I mean, when you were talking about the podcast, like, I, the education stuff, I, I went real niche into like something around composting or bees or plant care, something like that.

George: You would be good at that.

Mason: Just like something, something semi-outdoorsy, but not that real tough guy outdoors. You can still have soft hands while you're doing it. Yeah.

Tommy: And just for our, um, new, new, um, non-speaking, non-English speaking, uh, listeners, it's not something, it's something. Yeah, just to clear that up. Mason likes to throw those in just so he keeps you on your toes.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, something specific.

George: Yeah. You would be good at that though, mate. Like when you and Josh did the Instagram Live about 4 months ago. Oh, what was that?

Mason: It was awesome. After 4 chores.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. It was a good bench.

George: You're walking around your backyard showing the worms and stuff like that. Never seen you so passionate about anything.

Josh: I do get around the worms. Bigger question, isn't it?

George: Yeah.

Josh: Why are you passionate?

Mason: I'm passionate.

Josh: Do you think you're a passionate guy?

Mason: Yeah, I reckon I'm a passionate guy. I don't know if it— I don't know if it— I think it comes across in my actions as opposed to how my excitability and how much I—

Josh: That's very true. Yeah, I was looking at your calendar because I can access everyone's calendar now.

Tommy: Can you see mine?

Mason: Here we go.

Josh: Yeah, uh, there's not much in it, but the— you don't put stuff in your calendar. I get it, I get it. But Savvas puts everything in his calendar. And so I saw the other day it was like 8 AM to 9 PM, just had like blocks of work. Mate, what? You don't have that much on.

Mason: Yeah, the, the 9 PM, you know why that 9 PM was there? Because I probably finished at like 6:30 or something. That 9 PM was because I kept dragging stuff from the previous day, being like, oh, I didn't do that, so I better move it forward.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: And then it just kept getting pushed and pushed.

Josh: So you weren't working that late?

Mason: Not till 9 PM, no, no, no.

Tommy: I see. Nice.

George: That's not a bad— good idea though. But it's straight into the vlog. Just make it massive.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. Productivity, guys.

George: Yep.

Tommy: Uh, George, what would you do?

George: A niche job? Uh, God, I have— oh, I have no idea.

Josh: Um, maybe IT technician.

George: Yeah, something like that. Something like that.

Tommy: Um, network admin job, internet specialist.

George: I don't know, I'm not very good.

Josh: You could be a school IT, a PreSona specialist.

George: Now you guys, if there's anything—

Josh: no, I feel like I'm just beating you up now, unless you've got to say something, because otherwise it just seems like I'm bullying you.

George: Okay, um, okay, what am I good at? How do I—

Mason: I don't think you have to be good at it.

Josh: How to brush a cat?

Mason: Oh yeah, you do a cat— looking after a cat podcast.

Josh: Yeah, it's fine. Thepussyspecialist.com.

Mason: Thank you, that's absolutely—

Josh: with that mode, it could just be the mo— could be with that mo— it could be like, oh withthatmo.com.

George: With that, there's all things that you can do with a mo.

Josh: Oh yeah, what can you do?

George: That's good.

Josh: Uh, I don't know.

Mason: That domain's available, by the way.

Josh: Which one? The Pussy Specialist?

Mason: PussySpecialist.com.

Josh: Yeah, great.

Mason: $19.95 for enterprise IP.

Josh: Yeah, that's not bad. It's ridiculous. So that's—

Tommy: you think of something?

George: Sorry, you're thinking of something?

Josh: Circling back, JJ, should we pick one? I feel like we need to be— I think you could be the community manager for for kick.

George: Oh yeah, well, so to say, I would hate that. I would actually hate that.

Josh: Why?

Mason: Why?

George: Too much, too much time on talking to people and communicating, like time on phone.

Tommy: Sure.

George: So he doesn't want to keep much like reply. I don't want to have to reply to a million DMs all the time.

Josh: Oh, you know what, I think you could work at ACME.

George: Ah yeah, is that the, um, what Australian Centre for the Moving Image.

Josh: I think it's, um, yeah, could you imagine you sort of being— I can imagine you in sort of a government role where you, um, there's an archive sort of specialist thing. You probably like— you've, um, they've got a very basic sort of database software. I think you could work in a library.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Mason: Oh yeah, I think you could be an—

George: oh no, because I don't read. You can be basic archiving.

Mason: Yeah, like, think about all the, um, at the, um, IMAX, the, the massive IMAX theatre in the city. It's like they, they get the massive tapes, like the actual, like, film. And so, like, the Interstellar one, it's a way something like 120 kg.

George: Like, what do you do with that?

Mason: Where does that go afterwards? Like, you could be the guy that manages that.

George: That's what I would do. That's what I would do. I would love to actually I used to always just want to work in a cinema where they actually played film and like had to load it in. Just something cool about walking through the back with the projectors and putting the film in.

Mason: There you go.

George: I mean, it's a short job, but—

Josh: Yeah, it's not very— from a future of work perspective, you're in trouble there. You're right. Yeah, what's a future of work job for you? Something you could do remote?

Mason: Netflix cataloging.

Josh: Yeah, you can work on the algorithm team to help with like improving recommendations on Netflix.

Tommy: Head of comedy at Netflix.

Josh: Similar now to what he already does.

Mason: You could be the guy suggesting content. You could be the guy suggesting the content to Netflix to purchase, to put on their, um, platform.

Josh: So did you know about the, uh—

George: I don't think I'd be good at that either.

Josh: Have you heard about the, um, the Netflix Prize? The one—

Tommy: Oh, what's the Netflix Prize?

Josh: So, the Netflix Prize, it was sort of like the mid-2000s. I'm just having a look at it now. The Netflix Prize was an open competition for the best collaborative filtering algorithm to predict user ratings for films based on previous ratings without any other information about the user— users or films, i.e., without the users or the films being identified except by the numbers assigned, for the contest. So they said the competition was held by Netflix, an online DVD rental and video streaming service, and was open to anyone who was either connected with Netflix, like a current employee. Um, uh, on September 21st, 2009, the grand prize was $1 million and was given to Bellcore's Pragmatic Chaos team, which bested Netflix's own algorithm for predicting ratings by 10.06. So basically, yeah, 2009, they gave a million dollars to a team to create the best algorithm for recommendations.

Tommy: Wow, right?

George: It is good.

Tommy: George is all about that money.

George: Start—

Tommy: yeah, all about that money.

Josh: Was that worth it, that story, you think?

Tommy: Bit clunky for our Aussie English, you know, speaking.

Josh: Yeah, good. I think it's— I mean, I was watching a, um, the masterclass, the screenwriting masterclass.

George: That's what I want to do. I want to, I want to do that. I want to do screenwriting.

Josh: Do you want to get around it?

George: So yeah, I've been asking you for the login for the last month.

Josh: For what? Oh, for masterclass. No, no, but I mean like, fuck off the— so yeah, I'll give you that. Yeah, but the screenwriting bit I'm writing stuff, so I could write it and then send it to you. I wanted to do the same.

George: Yeah, I would definitely— I was like, actually, I loved what you were saying last week about all that writing and like, great social media and spending time writing. That's what I wanted to go.

Josh: Okay, well, can we start like every day? Could I send you a scene and you send me a scene?

George: Oh, that'd be sick. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Okay, so I'm using— so Final Draft have a 30-day free trial. Which is good. Like, I would recommend using that. It's very good from a, um, uh, you can't export as a PDF, but if you just send it to me, send the final draught file, I can just send you mine back. I've got like a little hack in to be able to get it as a PDF. I like import it into Scrivener, which I have, and then export it. But that'll be fun. Okay, good.

George: So screenwriting, no judgment, because I'm not, I'm not very Good.

Josh: Or either am I. I am. But what I was going to say is during the table read, when they're reading these things, you can see how anxious everyone is because they have to read out loud, and sometimes they're using like difficult names or hard words to pronounce. And so you're sort of there in front of all your peers trying to read it out.

Mason: It's, it's, yeah, not good.

Tommy: Absolute nightmare. All right, Gronks, happy weekend.

Josh: Enjoy your Sunday. And, uh, yeah, if you want to, if you want to be part of the screenwriting club, email me hi@thedailytalkshow.com. It's just with GB and I. You have to submit a piece of writing. Is that okay?

Tommy: We can get the first one with you two off the ground.

Josh: Yeah, well, it is like I'm already writing.

Mason: I've got the, uh, yeah, the, the great thing about Final Draft is it's the choice of studios and production companies worldwide. BBC, Netflix, ABC, Sony, Warner Brothers, big media company.

Josh: Yeah, thank you. It's, uh, $270 Australian dollars at the moment.

Tommy: Yeah, a bit of cash.

Josh: But if you think about— but you can do the, um, you can do the trial. And it's my 30th, um, yeah, in a month. So I'm going to— I think that's going to be my present. I'm going to say, can I get Final Draft? Because I've already ordered— I've got a mechanical keyboard which is going to be arriving any day. So it'll be like the—

Tommy: what does that mean?

Josh: So it's going to be like really— So like, if you look at it, yeah, it will be like really, really like clicky.

George: Like a typewriter.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So is that why? What's the point of it?

George: So you can feel the—

Josh: Beg your pardon.

George: No, just nice.

Josh: What's the point?

Mason: It makes it a nice typing experience. Like it's going to be nice and tactile to press keys. You got like—

Josh: You'll feel like I'm like writing a screenplay in the '90s, like, and it will be like, it's a— there's a physicality to it because I would just be like, you'll be able to hear if you're in the other room. When I'm writing, you'll be able to hear it. Like, it's noisy. Like, there's been blowups at tech companies. There's blowup at tech companies in open-plan offices where the engineers are using these mechanical keyboards because they're so loud.

Tommy: They sound fucking annoying, and you sound like the exact guy who buys one. So I get it, it makes a lot of sense.

Josh: The one thing I'm worried about is, um, Dr. Kay, she actually recommended this one. It's the— which, which one did I get, Mace? It's the, the Chrome, the K, the K2, the K2.

Mason: And it's, um, uh, it's the Keychron K2. Keychron K2.

Josh: And mine's got the aluminium outside frame, and it's the, the Series 2, which I think has a slightly better elevation. One of the criticisms over the K2 is that you do need a wrist rest because it sits quite high because the key, the keys are like this high because you need to sort of like, it's exciting.

Tommy: If you've got a keyboard at home, just start tapping away.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, just use whatever you've got.

George: Quentin Tarantino handwrites all of his scripts.

Tommy: Wow. Oh my God, fuck, that's impressive.

George: And he only has one, he has one script which he, he uses for like the reads and stuff. So when they're doing—

Mason: sure, he's got a backup.

George: No, so it's like one—

Josh: wow—

George: handwritten script that's got—

Tommy: the guy has stuff. He's only done— he's only done 9 films, I think. Like, maybe this is—

Mason: no, that's all he sends. He can afford—

Josh: that's a lot of films—

Mason: 5 years, right?

Josh: That's a lot.

Tommy: It's a lot of fuck— it's a lot of fucking films, but it's not 50. But it's the— the joke is that he's— he's— he's the guy that's only released them as like, this is Quentin Tarantino's 4th film. This is Quintetarian.

Josh: I reckon, like, how many films, uh, directors making, GB? I feel like that's quite—

George: I don't know, it's a lot. But I also love that he's gonna— he's only gonna do one more and then call it a day. Yeah, like he's doing 10 and then that's it because he doesn't want to be an old director that gets out of touch.

Mason: Here you go, Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan has written 18, 18 movies.

Josh: How many is he actually made?

Mason: Directed 15.

Tommy: I'm not— what I'm not thinking, I just thought it was low, but it didn't— it's not to take away how much effort goes into it. I know it takes a lot of effort, but I think like, yeah, there'd be— how many Scorsese's made?

Josh: How many has Judd Apatow made? How many do you think?

Tommy: Judd's probably done a fuckload. Judd.

Josh: Oh, I reckon he's probably done— is that the answer? No, no, no, you're counting.

Tommy: I mean, I—

George: this is—

Josh: I'll say, I'll say Heavyweights, The 40-Year-Old Virgin.

Tommy: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. If this is all his films, 19, 20.

Josh: Yeah, 4, 5.

Mason: Is this— are you doing directed or written?

Josh: 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. He's 13 in his filmography, keeping in mind, uh, no, so directed he's done 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. He's only directed 8.

George: 8.

Tommy: And then he's EP'd, he's produced, fuck, he's done a lot, dude. Yeah, it's unbelievable.

George: Good bloke.

Mason: He's written 17 and directed 66.

George: Wow.

Josh: Who's this?

Tommy: Scorsese.

Josh: Yeah, wow.

George: Yeah, he's about 150 years old.

Mason: Yeah, no, that's true.

Josh: All right, all right, enjoy your Sunday, everyone.

Tommy: We love you.

Josh: Bye.

Tommy: See ya.