#808 – Chocolate Éclairs vs Profiteroles/
- August 1, 2020
We chat about Josh’s recent screen time, Apple Podcast reviews, KFC’s chicken supply, chocolate éclairs vs profiteroles and getting into coffee art.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– Josh’s screen time
– Apple Podcast reviews
– What Mr. 97’s been up to
– KFC’s chicken supply
– Constant checking
– Physio, Chiro, and Kinesiology
– Chocolate éclairs vs profiteroles
– Coffee Art
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What's happening guys? What is going on? happy weekend banter. I missed 77
Yeah, I said something. Right.
What is going on? Yeah, you haven't made you haven't been on the show?
Well, they're not look, they're out there. Hang on. Let me just let me limit. There are a few little things to clarify. On my dog breed. Yeah, I'm actually quite happy with it.
It's we've moved on my show every day.
bernese Mountain dog. That's actually Grice's fibre dog. So yeah, it's perfect. Okay, and it was very close. You. You mentioned a high subscription Josh.
What does that mean?
That you're gonna have to reset for us because we don't remember
the height. This is because I'm shocking with emails and I use a Gmail app that's meant to reinvent email and I was following it for a long time and description would be nice.
Is there is there lore against other brands using the exact same tagline spark reinventing email? Oh, I love your email again.
Surely unless I mean unless it unless they copywriting it. Sorry not copywriting it must have tried mocking it. Yeah. It
It's all I mean, Hey, bro, I'll never fucking love my email. And you haven't reinvented it anything. It's just still sending email. It's like it's Australia Post trying to say that is rarely upon you know right now, but I could imagine that like you know, feel re energised by connecting via post.
Well, this is like when Jess says, what she uses the phrase, we've got to bring this to life. feels like we're working in a morgue or something like just everything's dead and we have to fix it.
Give me some code. Give me a scenario. Oreo is just like, Hey,
guys, we've got to do this brainstorm session for this client. We just need to be able to get these. I've sent through the dark we want to bring these ideas to life. Okay, yeah, great. You know, workout five different ways of bringing these products to life. But I think it's because when I was at Envato, I did a whole I was working on a campaign. And it was all about bringing your ideas to life, and I got so I ended up googling it cuz I'm like, Oh, this is a great idea. Maybe, maybe I could get the domain name. It could be an it's fucking us. So like, if you type it in on Twitter, on search, everyone's saying it. And so we get to laugh.
Yeah. And so I remember the exact thing to say,
yeah, it has that vibe. But then I changed it to helping ideas grow. And then I had like, because Envato was a leaf and I am I did Like a train leaves. I remember showing it to my manager and my manager, who we were on sort of Rocky, Rocky grounds because she was sort of this middle manager that came in and I sort of all of a sudden went from reporting into the founder to having to deal with someone else, which is fine, whatever. But I just remember she said, if it's fine, whatever, it's not fine.
What a warning sign. She's very nice. She said she I think she was trying to win me over because she said, Josh, like I'd spent 30 seconds putting this together before the meeting. So Josh, this is something that would pay an agency $50,000 It's a picture that I drew a tree says helping your ideas grow, and it's got laser dots and lines.
And it's I love this because you think about the biggest brands in the world and you think How much did they spend on their logo? How much did Nike spend on the logo? This is what
was it? 35 bucks. Yeah.
Do you have you read that before? I think Oh, yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Let me just the Nike swoosh. So I'm pretty sure they're talking about the tick is perhaps one of the most well known cheap logos costing the sports brand, just 35 USD, when co founder Phil Knight commissioned graphic design students, Carolyn Davidson back in 1971. He was
pissed off as it was on it was on Fiverr but she got him with a few extra bonuses the the the Illustrator file as well, which was extra 20 bucks.
I mean, what does that say about creativity? What does it say to you, JJ, the 30 minutes before a presentation that swayed a manager to think that you're actually reincarnation of God himself.
In the person who worked with me in the team, who already thought that I was a bit arrogant and obnoxious, like just her eyes roll when
I mean, creativity is about like Connecting, Connecting dots. It's about, but it's also not about being complicated. It's about like being able to communicate the complicated in a simple way.
So yeah, I love it. But I think that part of it too, is the timing.
Yeah, exactly. And exact Lee,
because you can, because what about like, I mean, for us at when we first started, the logo that we had for the daily talk show was text, because we needed to do something to get it on the podcast platforms, and we needed at least a photo with something, some text on it, and then we got another logo, which we liked, but it wasn't what we knew it was going to become in the Future. And then we got a design student named three day deal who ended up creating something that we all love. And so, if you didn't do the first two, it's like there'll be so much riding on that first one. I mean, look at every all the brands that are doing rebrands like Southern Cross austereo radio company, for the 17th time. Who else is there? My brother has got a podcast, he's rebranded twice before releasing an episode. I said, You're really sad at least it I said, You're the you're the CEO of podcasting.
I mean, it's, I mean, it is interesting, though, like the Yeah, the rebrand of a radio station like, it does something for morale. Because if you look, if you look on LinkedIn, people are like, this is like a gigantic effort with like, so many hours spent on this thing. And is that
is that the internal people that SCI writing that Yeah, and so because I can tell you what's happened there, I can tell you what's happened. Someone like Josh Jed just texted some while and say can you comment on my LinkedIn post
and then I have to write something
just happy for it now on LinkedIn I think the the vibes good everyone's just happy they have a job at the moment so I'm fired up guys to be fired up just I can love Baby I can grind out we go get a lot of work so I did I I can definitely
he loves the four days of every month.
That's when we get paid but I didn't say they said that I am that we're very proud because it was an internal job like someone did it internally. And it did remind me of my my trip my trade Ikram just the dive camera and just fucking clapping it in as I present the $50,000 idea.
I think the one thing when people give criticism and I do what I like, because I think that's what anything you put out into the world, you're gonna have a thought on When you see it, it makes you feel something that's the whole point of brand is that you're trying to influence how people are feeling. And you're trying to communicate what you as a brand are doing. And then it has to align with the instant trigger of the feeling that comes out when someone's season. So you're trying to mesh these two together perfectly. But then you do think about Okay, I hadn't thought about who'd made that? I probably, I think I thought that it was probably an agency that spent 100 grand on creating a logo that looks like every other looks like for other corporate businesses. But then you got to think about the person who's made it And isn't it probably an individual that has done it? Like you said someone internally and that they feel strongly to it and they've put everything to it and then
you feel bad about that. Do you think that you're throwing too much shade at the rebrand then
I'm throwing shade at the company rebranding for the 17th time, I think I was there with two rebrands and everyone was confused back then. And so I'm just worried about The confusion now when it's rocky at times it feels
what I do doesn't it? It feels like it's not too dissimilar to me getting my my exercise by going like for the first what like there is a stage where it's like this is actually you know what it's been a very odd time but this new yellow pallet this this is what we hated everything yeah this is it yeah.
yeah yep Sam's doing the new new tweets with some colour behind them man we've wrapped
we've reinvented the wheel Yeah,
This is untouched. But then you know the even the this slightly distance for us which is the feeling. Talley Smyth launched her podcast too much Telly. That is, you know, a creative endeavour that is kind of sidestep from us. But we're highly invested in it because it's a part of our podcast network. How have you felt JJ On any feedback that's come out.
I realised how much time I've been on my phone. So my refund, like when I'm, when I'm feeling it's not even stressed or just when I'm feeling that wide feeling. It takes me takes me about a week to rely on a couple of weeks to realise so first I'm like, I'm needing something. Maybe I need to read a book. Why do I need to read a book like I just become obsessed around books. And last night, I looked at my screen time. It was up 44% from last week. Wow. Wow. And the I can tell you, I'll tell you the exact details. It was over I spent on my phone in the wake. This, guess how much for the this week, how many hours I've spent on my phone
for the entire way combined.
Entire average. That's the entire week so not
so not not the daily average the entire week if I was to add up all of the time, every day, every time God,
Jesus, I'm going I'm going 70 hours now. 60
was 66. I'm nine hours, 10 hours, 10 hours and 11 minutes. 10 hours and 11 minutes on the phone. I don't know what happened on Sunday last week, but it nearly hit 20 hours on
I don't know what to do sleep. Probably not. That's what's happening.
Well, I mean, what one of the one of the things that I feel like you might have updated in that time has been your Instagram bio. This is I was I was as he said I was also I mean, here's the first time I saw I probably saw it on Wednesday. You've done a little update, podcast and live YouTube show at the daily talk show in love with Brian On a Phillips It feels like mid dot
club in the field it feels like midnight gear has been how long about three way three way is when Tommy so there was a period in the office where I was just a bit fucking exhausted and at like 3pm I'd be like fuck feels like midnight and then Tommy had a conversation with me where he's like if I can you saying that makes it feel like midnight? Like that's not helping. And so then on the Monday the following Monday I changed it all instead of saying fuck it's a great like I'm fucking fired up and then like I say that I'm like I'm fucking happy and this is gonna be a good day to just like he right you're a bit manic today you're a bit happy. I can't win. But no so the reason I brought
Julie and Julie this way crash
but so on. No. So you're right. You're the teller. I'd been I like to keep across all the different pieces. And so there's like when you launch a podcast, there's a bunch of things that you're looking at looking at downloads a little bit you're looking at, you know, click through links with tracking different stuff, seeing where traffic's coming from what people are saying. But yeah, what you're talking about specifically, is the apple podcast reviews. Which, yesterday, before we received a message from Taliban like this, I can't be fucked with this. I went through my phone and change the order of all my apps, because I'd gotten so used to clicking on it refresh, click like, I just keep like it's a bit of a routine. So it had complete yet it's a tape. Yeah, yeah.
And so anyway, many people out there that have that have when they go on to say they on the computer they go Command T FA and then click enter which is Facebook. I've done like Command T f a bang into Facebook you there
Yeah. And so the yeah the reviews the apple podcast reviews have been notoriously toxic similar to remember YouTube used to be really bad back in the day like it still has a bit of that
but I think the the consider the consistency is that you there's a high chance you don't know who the person is so it's like quite unanimous unanimous and not terms of leaving something anonymous sorry. Anonymous so you can just leave us a slight slander review. scathing reviews the word and get away with it and just make make someone feel like shit. Well the
funny thing about So the thing is that like we would get if we were as popular as Telly is would be getting the same sort of reviews. It's just the scale thing, right? Like her download numbers not to sound like Donald Trump. They're in the billions. It's ridiculous. Billions and billions and billions polls have never been higher fatale smile. The Yeah, I mean, the thing is, like, it's, um, the thing that I've worked out, I think this is a bit of a turning point. For me, especially as a creator, having seen the effort that we've put in the effort, the tallies put in the the generosity that we've all come to it in regards to what we're trying to do, and we're trying to serve the listener and all this sort of thing. And so you see these reviews, and I couldn't help but do a bit of a copy and paste of the usernames. And what's funny about the people who leave these reviews, is they had the exact same opinion on Kelly's last podcast. So the thing is these people aren't fans. They're not listening. They're, they are just following her around and shit canning wherever. Yeah. And then the other thing is, there's this, there's, I won't even say the name of the podcast, but there's a there's a new strategy that people are using to try and grow their podcast where they'll go into the reviews of popular podcasts. And they'll say, fraud. This is a complete copy of this podcast, which isn't like, sorry to burst your bubble. But like when I google that when I actually searched the podcast, there was so many podcasts with the same name of this podcast, I couldn't actually work out which one they're talking about. This isn't rata G, the strategy of saying, Hey, this is a complete copy as a way to try and get numbers and get clout. And so yeah, so there's all that sort of shit and then you rate and then you raid, the stuff where it's like we call that we called the show we had with So many discussions around how do we do? How do we make this so that is so obvious of what it is right? And so the criticism that Telly was getting with social squad, which was a podcast with Mamma mia was Telly loves to chat, and she's fucking great at it. And that's the reason why we love her as a guest. And we always have enjoyed having her on the show. And it's the reason why we're like, you know what, the reason why you're getting this feedback is because it was an interview show. And of course, it's not, it's not what you want to do. And so we titled the podcast, too much Tally. We put her name on the podcast, we put her face in the podcast artwork. And then it is if someone has mysteriously had this fucking podcast into their ears, they're like, Oh my god, they're so fucking offended that tell a story. Walking in it like it is. And then the other thing that gets me is it's like what is the most like look at like all these trolls we said like one star reviews that don't mean anything but I just saw I had a moment of how funny it is how offended they are at like a female talking. And if you look at like the number one category on Apple podcasts it's crime. We're all cool about women being fucking butchered to death and is listening to it through headphones but the idea of us Yeah, but the the idea of tele Smyth accidentally talking over someone for a few seconds. He's apparently fucking more offensive.
I'd say fucking rich like there was an article that I'll send today from justice is telling us it was this is in the Daily Mail tell the spice new podcast receives one star reviews from enraged listeners who accuse the former Big Brother Star of talking over guests and being self obsessed. Like there is five star reviews in there too. They're not focused on it's it's complete trash. And like you said, missed the point.
It's not only just missing the point, these are like, there was no point for them to try and get that there was no there's no, this isn't critical feedback where they're going through this is them being triggered, or just literally following. Like if you actually like us, like if you if you google these people, you realise that they go from podcasts to podcast, they go to shameless. They go to every single podcast, like any podcasts where there's strong women talking, and they need and what they're trying to do is that they want to make it very clear that you shouldn't be doing what you're doing, and they're going to try everything they can to try and stop it. And so for me, what I learned from it is it's like, okay, I completely understand how Tali feels about it because it's like, I have that like, it's It's not even me directly being trolled but even just being in the sort of a part of it and seeing and thinking about how that must make her feel. I feel that response and I think that the turning point is it's like, okay, these reviews these people
mentally unwell isn't isn't the isn't the isn't the right way of phrasing it these people need like, they've got other shit going on. Right clearly like they're if you look if you walk down the street or if you just see like even even if you just go on LinkedIn or Facebook and you see people who that you normally think is pretty fuckin together and then you fucking comment. You see one comment about what they're thinking about ex politician or whatever it is, and then you're like, oh, they're actually completely fuckin tweaked. And so if we, if we know people in our industry Circle who were fucked up. Imagine, outside of our circle, how many fucked up people there are. So my perspective is it's like, you know, the great thing, the beauty of what we're doing, is it this is a long term game. And we have the support of our team. And we can be resilient and we can, and this isn't to discredit or to, to say that there's not growth to be made. This is saying that, that format, that way of saying the, those people aren't actually the people who matter. And so, yeah, I think I've become very comfortable with expecting it, completely expecting this from anything you do. But then also just like, it's, um, the best way to manage it, I think is you can't, I completely relate to and Michelle and Zahra have spoken about this with shameless. It's like you actually can't look at it. And people will try and say that that means that you're not listening to your listeners, but the listeners can email.
I mean, the brave ones aren't in in the trenches leaving reviews that are scathing. It's like not where they lie. I mean, think about time that you've been triggered seeing something. And if you just stop for a moment, it is a pure reflection on yourself at some point, like when I've seen people doing well, and I thought, how are they? No, they're no good, and they're doing well. And then I start getting dark, but it's like, that is because I'm probably thinking, fuck, I meant to be doing more than I am. I've got more in me than what I'm currently putting out to the world.
But it's not even that most people don't even have that awareness. Like they don't even know that right. They'll they'll have the internal internal misogyny and they'll be feeling this way and they'll think that no, this is because and that buy into the the reality show net like they're dumb enough to believe the reality show narrative and I think that Telly is funny because she, she will deliver that stuff like she'll give that like she doesn't give a fuck. She'll be giving them the stuff that then feeds them even more, which I sort of appreciate about how how she operates.
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, it's it is funny that like you said, Josh, when you've been putting in work for something and it's not even your voice that's at the centre of it being being criticised. It's it's, it's when you know, someone like Kelly, like we were getting to know her beyond what people probably do on Instagram. And she she's impressed me so many times with the person that she is. And that's where I then stalking him because I'm like, now you guys Fuck, but then it's like, I don't even need to try and, you know, scratcher this China. Yeah, even enter into that because it's like Yeah, you just know someone's a great person, and they're working on it. And then they've got flaws of their own insecurities, you know, and issues of their own, like we all do. And until he's the brave one, putting something out into the world, it's not, you know, it's like, we're not gonna say we're not like surgeons, changing lives heart, one heart surgery at a time, but we're also trying to do
what we do,
and, and give, give something to the world. And so that's what Tony's doing. I don't fucking love it. And so, but you see why people don't start, you see why people that already have created something of their own, have such an aversion to putting something out into the world because you know that you're just going to get feedback from trolls. And so it's what's easier is to just do nothing. And doing nothing doesn't necessarily help you and where you want to go to and you're drained and so
There's, like, if there's a lack of critical thinking from, say, this person that rotor daily might well mean, lack of thinking across the Daily Mail probably is, is pretty is a brand value. But they, I mean, the thought is that it's like, if they actually thought about the nuance, they wouldn't be able to do their jobs. But if they actually thought about the nuance, they would be like, okay, hang on. So, this is a podcast that you have to seek out. You have to click on, you have to do all of these steps to get there. And we've made it very clearly in the like, this isn't it's not like we're Trojan horsing this. We're not pretending that tup too much tally is, you know, the interview with Andrew Denton. Like it's very clear what this fucking show is. And so, I think that probably the missing piece is they put those reviews like those review actually mean something. Whereas the reality is that it's actually I'll take a sidestep, too, if you think about television or radio, so television and radio, there was more criticism to be had because you would have your channel 10 or your Fox FM or whatever it is you'd have the station that you listen to. And then people would enter your homes or your ears or whatever it is, and channel 10 or Fox are picking the things that you consume. And so there's a level of friction or responsibility as the programmer around Okay, what does our audience like? This is completely different to that. This is how Kelly's got her own channel, her own station, enter if you like tele enter, if you're interested in that, and so I think that that's what gets lost in That it's completely fucking optional. And the reviews potentially. I think that, yeah, I wonder, I wonder how many people are saying, This isn't for me. And that's it, versus the visceral response that they're getting. And saying, This isn't for me. Not only is this not for me, but I need to tell everyone that it's Yeah,
yeah. I'll get to tell all my friends and all the people I don't know. Because as a creator, if people are saying, This is not for me, that is okay. It doesn't matter.
It can't be for everyone.
You're trying to find a select group of people who it's for. And if you can do that, even find a small handful of people that it's for, there is a high chance there are other people like those people that will like what you're doing. There will always be more people who don't like what you're doing. They're not, but that is okay. But I think that were we, I think the energy that comes out of and you say that that podcast that I that Daily Mail article they lead with all the one starts but then at the bottom they say oh, but she's getting some, some stuff that's coming through. It's positive, but it's like, that's not interesting. That's not that's not gonna draw people's attention. The Five Star stuff that she gets in the people saying, girl, this is your thing you've meant to do this, your own show, this is everything like all of that is exactly what why we started the show because it's it's saying everything we thought before Telly even did her first show. And she has
that and that's the the the development that's being done. I mean, if you go to if you don't like pop music, don't go to a Taylor Swift concert. And so for some reason, for some reason, we've gotten very good with that with a lot of different things, but is a lot of dumb people like I went to Russia. I went to love it. I went to Russia. Review and then my phone died but I was sort of glad because I was lucky I was like it was a review in response to everyone on on tallies i didn't i didn't i don't want to fucking I don't want to have a second gen dealt with I don't want to I don't want it to be fucking Yeah, I can just yeah it was it was on tallies account it's not like I'm fucking running on anyway the I basically yeah the final thing I said was I would suggest that the people leaving these reviews pick up a self help book but I just sort of fact in fact I was shocked brain just like I reckon you could get rid of that last line. I think that probably and I went to delete it and then my phone died and I was like you know what, that's that's a sign. That's got the light I find it's meant to fucking last 24 hours in a day and it's dying. before you go to bed you find you've had a good day's
work with the 20th hour.
You know, I'm yeah, I'm surprised that the I did realise with the battery that's like, it's so easy to forget to close down all of your apps, like I went through and realise I had fucking every app open that I basically ever used. So a little tip for everyone going into your little um, what is you swipe up and then ahead? Yeah, yeah, a little swipe up and then
even Safari tabs is a little, little tip if your Safari is running slow. Yes, I use Chrome. Oh, really? Yeah, it was sent my brother Sam's got about 100 tabs. I've been on too many. just ridiculous. Yeah.
tab, tab boy.
What else is going on sibs? And if any, anything Yeah, what are your type?
Well, we've we've been inside Always just with our tests so now now that when negative we can we can both go out so this weekend like he was talking about we want to have a bit of fun.
You're getting that. You've been talking a lot about nuggets. Well,
yeah, well, I think we will get nuggets with we've got we've got adequate home tonight for a little date night, but we have been pushing for chicken nuggets during the week. And if I hurt them I won't be happy afterwards. But she really like let's get them yeah, I want to have them with you. I really want to have them with you. But then it's that thing of I potentially won't be happy afterwards which is just destroying the whole thing.
Where are the nuggets from? What's the guy so for you
are just back is just TJ what would you say that ronnie 20 nuggets at Mack is I
I tell you what you pay less than 12 nuggets or something some silly deal on what it's like nine Box nine boxes something nine
nine I 10 bucks for 20 nuggets and then because we were in isolation momentum
going into my swallowing delanie Yeah, I've never thought like imagine if every time I get you imagined at McDonald's is
currently our This was so this is when this is sorry my bad guys McDonald's McDonald's we're currently offering what we're offering we're offering you 24 chicken nuggets for 995 and Amy got our 24 with Bodhi and came back at night them in bed watching a movie now that's what sort of saw it that's why I thought that was so cheap as you're getting tweets out hate but um, so last night driving past KFC a huge line with cars down the street. And Amy's like my, the Colonel's back you now saying the colonel Carolyn's back. Might have run out of chicken is a chicken shortage in Victoria, a KFC chicken shortage. Okay, so, I mean, it could be tele Smith's recommendation of zinger burgers. She's ever had one until her mate started to have one this year and she's been going hard. And so she's had a whole bunch of people, you know, sending snaps through saying, I'm eating. I'm eating KFC while listening. So it could be her doing, but there is a chicken shortage experiencing chicken shortage in Victoria with some restaurants closing. I mean, it is their business, isn't it? You don't have chicken, you know.
It may not read verse two, like I I feel like Red Rooster. Unless you're sort of a hardcore fan is maybe a once a year sort of thing. And I just remember like, we decided to do the once a year. Oh, you know what, let's get red Russia in that round of chicken. I was just like, Oh no, this is why this is why This fucking
No shit shit well
very wary of shit canning Red Rooster because something like this there's some people who love the cat man yeah I love this soggy, soggy chicken or all that's in the microwave it's like yeah,
yeah I don't think it is hate so there is a new cheap cheesy chicken nuggets at okay at Red Rooster so they've got cheese in the middle of them they're not bad
not bad so you pay I wonder if for them to make if that if there's chicken shortages around Philadelphia.
You just fill him with cheese. No, I'm not that much cheese. It's it's 95 98% chicken.
Mac is awesome to get hit with a chicken shortage.
Go to I mean, they've the kernel is the chicken guy. magazine for beef, their base specialist.
You know that's true. Yeah, my my tip might Tip is on your phone to switch up all of your apps. So that you have to have an extra layer of thought before you tap on something because you've probably gotten into a routine of even like, this morning. I didn't look at my phone in bed. But Bray was on Instagram and I was just like watching her. She's watching her Instagram. Same like, what's that? Who's that?
It's like, it's like you've quit porn and you've asked him to just show you
quite a bit the addictive
Oh, God. Anyway, that's a good one. Right? So what what are you taking away? What do you take away from the guy that's just sitting? He spent one day had 20 hours of screen time. Yeah. What's the takeaways? I mean, yeah,
the work by the way, sorry, late, one day 20 hours. I don't know like I can I can show it to you.
But yeah, no, it's the on the screen grab that I sent you to mace. On the very first on the the iMessage I sent you last night. There's, if you zoom in, it's like close to the 20 hour mark. It must have been 18 hours. But yeah, so now where I've landed with it, I don't So Cal Newport he wrote the book. two books, deep work, and digital minimalism. I can't remember if it was in digital minimalism or deep work, but he talks about I can't remember the the name of the work or what the how he sort of names it, but it's the work that you do. So what's the the constant checking? It's the refreshing of things. It's checking News com.au. It's checking the Major League Baseball scores. It's all of those little checks that you do. Yeah, you know, checking your and like, the thing is that I don't need to check out podcast analytics every half hour because,
I mean, you could safely do it once every two weeks based on it just has grown in keeps going. It's safe to say that it's gonna keep growing.
And so the thing that Yeah, I find, I think potentially when I'm seeking comfort, my version of comfort is donuts and like so just fucking junk just like fuck yeah, we'll have that junk food, junk food. And then the other one is the little things of like, so I feel like I the way that I feel like it's happening, which is not the reality is I'm fucking in the NASA control centre. I'm just fucking I've got all the charts I'm fucking looking at. I'm refreshing. And then I get like fucking robots. ordered from you guys. Because we like I'll find little things. So it's like, I found something on LinkedIn last night and I sent it to TJ and I can Did you find that so quickly as I did in fact, in six weeks, I can figure it out I got it. It was
the video was unlisted and had two views. That's what draw drew my concerns to have the fact he came across. Yes,
I found someone else's video and I like sent it through or whatever. But there's so many even so Mason and I get into talking about fucking Spotify. Remember, we've had the issue of our Spotify shownotes looking like dogshit shit. Y'all want your phone, on your phone and go on to Spotify. Right
Yeah, go to the daily talk show on Spotify. If you are a Spotify listener, and you listen to music on Spotify, and you listen to other podcasts or whatever, listen to the data. Talk Show on Spotify two, we are slightly right. slightly concerned that there will be there will be a little bit of a monopoly or something that happens where they, you know, because they are doing so well, but it's a good it's a good solution video is coming as well, so that people do well, that would be great. Have you looked at the shade?
Dude, they're sick. The dot points Southern link are all spaced out properly because it was just like slapping the text in there even if we've formatted it before. Well, they didn't have
they didn't have HTML support. And so we work. So 97 was going through and doing all of that. It still needs they need to update their chrome like their web experience because it's still not formatted on there, but it will happen but it would break all of the links. So we had a piece of work where we're going to go through every single show not every 800 hours. episodes, go through the shownotes and reformat for Spotify. And so by Spotify doing this, it means we don't have have to do that anymore.
Josh, what about setting daily limits on your apps? Calvin wrote that Yeah, me he does, and it works for him.
So yeah, I was. I definitely, yeah, I will do that. So the thing that I have done already, is I went in and turned off all notifications. For most, I mean, I use
I've done that. I've done that for a long time I especially email and shit and I seem to not like it. Okay, so you go, I have to manually check. So maybe I do the manual check more than some but then the others who have instant notifications are getting disrupted every time there's any you know, so you've maybe there's a higher level of checking based on just being told Yo, you're gonna definitely
well I get like, you just even the I mean, how many people in Victoria I get a push notification every time Dan Andrews has a statement. It's just fuckin like you're tuning in type of thing. Yeah. And so I've turned off a bunch of that stuff. But I was also thinking that it's a it is a trick like it's it is a trap because it gives you the sense of progress. But no progress is actually getting made in the process. So like, probably, I would say, I'm wasting at the moment, seven hours a day on my phone, no doubt doing stuff that feels like there's some level of progress, but it's actually just input input input and so you'll find bits of gold right? So like if you think about how much I'm like sifting through things and going on websites and searching stuff and like the you are bound to find pieces of gold, but I think that for me Yeah, and that, but what I think that I'm sort of leaning towards is it's like the curated, like being way more curated with things and being like, Okay, I'm gonna read this book from start to finish. And because think about when I read a book, how many pieces of gold so if we look at like, it doesn't have to be crazy at work, the book that I was writing within 32 pages, I had already highlighted 12 quotes that were great. And so like, I recommend that books have a way higher rate of actual like,
signal to noise, whereas I feel like online stuff and this is fucking obvious shit. This is stuff that we know what you're saying JJ is a piece of broccoli has better qualities about it than a donut is that's it. That's the comparison right there. And then but then it's like, the challenge is how do you convince yourself that eating the Broccoli every day is much better spend more time eating broccoli that
well I think, first of all, you need to move the doughnuts from what you normally have them. That's the if we're the same sort of metaphor.
You're in a bakery. You're a guy who is in a bakery that specialises in donuts and doughnuts. But you're, and you're a baker. And there is a few healthy options in your bakery, and I'm a Baker
Yeah, and so, obviously, you're in a conundrum, son.
It's very hard. How does the Baker Act and get away from the baked goods? feels like it's my job.
Getting there. So here's the thing I've been watching the show says can you look it up at Netflix? So renovating shower, they take old properties like restoration Australia, it might be called sybilla Sybil is a woman who hosts it so nice. You had last night I mean, I watched net someone down in in Tasmania. I find these all yeah restaurants in Australia. They find these old cottages that are you know, centuries old and they want to restore them but keep a lot of the qualities of you know the old style right there a lot of them are off the grid a lot of them are far out and I think about like moving to a place that's remote and then I was thinking about how to get out of this is like it's almost cutting think about if we stopped the show tomorrow and we stopped the business and he just had a nice cushy job in a country town. What that would force you to do like I think for us to cut you know that's the drastic approach to what would be the long workout what the job is cushy job post office for sure. For sure post office host yes
I think that straightaway going to the my back fucking hurting like damn
you can sit down What about what about it?
Reality got what I love No. Damn though the the business I would want to work with or work for isn't a good business because there's not many customers. Like I'm not a cashier guy. And so the thing is, it's potentially, like I was wondering, so Bri Bri had a work mate that they had to do some work in person. And so they came to our lounge room and did the work there last week, and I didn't leave my, the spare room like the office like my office and breathe with like, come in with like water. And so you know, you can come out like it's fine, like, now I'm good, I'm good. I'm just enjoying my company. And so I'd like to I got a bit of an insight of what it would be like to be in jail because I literally couldn't like I was lying on my like, like normally like when I'm having colds or whatever, I'll go to the bed and I like lie down and I'll be like, facetiming it gives me some stretching time and stuff like that. So my point It would be good to get a point at pointing out that lying on the bed is not stretching did it feels like a fucking stretch.
Stretch. something's gone wrong.
I feel really
hurt her back.
How is she or thing? It's cost 400 bucks so
far physio already in a wait. It's not a law. We don't have private health.
But yeah, but then I mean, you'd be
used to have private health 1400
Yeah, instantly at the start of the
year again and so now she's feeling better but it is that thing of the physio versus an osteo guy. I did all of that I did when I first got my herniated discs I did the the physio, the osteo the Cairo Cairo's I know some people love Cairo's I had a horrendous experience with Chi Cairo. They tricked me with all of this chat about like nutrition and they'll show me like an apple at the start and then we're like fucking trying things and like it was all very good. And then they just like, okay, I was in like a heap of pain. And they get me on one of their bed things. And they bring up the wedge, like, you know, like and slam it down. And I'm like I was, at the time. My biggest concern This is like 2012 my biggest 2013 My biggest concern was when I was walking into work or whatever, I was worried that someone would not like a cyclist or whatever would just knock me a little bit and I would be fat. Like, I was like, in that position where it's like so vulnerable. And so then to have someone fucking slamming my hips, and they're like, I'm like, that's like, I wasn't being a bitch about it. I was like, that's that really hurts. They're like, I know that's like that's part of it. I don't think
so I think it's Oh, I don't think it's all Cairo's there. I know a few good ones. But like it definitely the old school approach. Like I went to a Cairo Many years ago, but
then weddings a long time, I think a lot of when I go to weddings always make Cairo's you know,
a Doctor of Chiropractic or they have
to they have to be a GP before they become a
general practitioner, but they're they're a doctor. It's like a it's like hops will be Craig Apple will be a doctor at the time he finished easy.
What were you saying?
Yeah, I was just saying that I went to one many, many, many, many years ago and had the real brutal cracking just like, but then I went again, and it's like, a lot softer and a different approach. And so they're not all like that. But yeah, I get you get weetman there's a lot of people that disagree.
Well, so where I put it is like the physio for me. I don't know if these are like common cliches, but the physio is they'll always give you homework. And it's all very much and it's like little Lexus that you end up buying one of their like rubber band things and it's like you got to do a bit of Work no sort of. There's that they sort of just touch a shoulder and say yep, yeah. Okay. Yeah, go and do that, put it on the doorknob and then extend your arm do that. But the what I love about the osteo is that they actually, you get like a massage out of it too and they do a little bit of a lining.
I actually think so. Telly smarts podcast, too much Telly next week's episode at three I've been working on. It's coming out on Tuesday, and they have a kinesiologist on the show.
Now, what is
a good question. Let me just say why I think you should go to it before I think before I tell you what they are because I will struggle there. Okay, look up kinesiologist what they do says, but they can help with a lot of emotional stuff. And so understanding what your body's doing based on some of the emotional triggers in your life. And so you're highly emotional dude. But I think you haven't wanted to go to a yes. a psychologist and, and tackle it head on like that which is your your battle. But I think there's a version that is it's not necessarily a psychologist, where you just sitting there doing in sitting there talking there's another approach where they're testing they're using your body to inform you're on what's happening from an emotional level so so i'd love I think you should go to a kinesiologist
and so says what's the official definition of a kinesiologist?
What can it kinesiology is a form of therapy that uses muscle monitoring or biofeedback to look at imbalances that may be causing disease or stress in the body.
Yeah, that's exactly what you need, dude. You know, you're like, Oh, my back hurts because I'm stressed at the moment. It's like, everything's connected. And I agree with that. Like, that's just
read. That's the whole thing of like, you left that like if you fucking left side hurts. It's because you're sad. Awesome shit
I mean it's they're all feedback It's like he got some unsettled because you're
frozen Claire's fucking dinner
all right to finishes up finishes off saves that what happened guys got a message yesterday
from a mom yeah the the wall between let's say sit yeah I don't even know if he knows grace messaged me about it Do you know about the message?
Oh sorry Was that you? Yeah that was me.
Yeah those Josh I saw that something about the chocolate Eclair being a federal
yeah so she was saying that the chocolate Eclair because I said this this tastes a bit like a professor role. And Grace's mum said chocolate eclairs are in fact just preferred roles.
Dude, that's controversial. Yeah, she may be right.
Yeah, but what I got faxes, there's None Master profiterole versus Eclair they're in sort of the same area.
I tell you what, from your your old school bakery down here in bulleen the chocolate clay does not look like a profitable upper federal. You don't see the cream, you have to buy it into experience the cream and old school chocolate Eclair from a bakery. You're seeing the cream flowing out of it, you should be able to save
the I would say the fake cream. I think that the profit or roll is closer to a fucking donors than a than a chocolate Eclair, don't you think? Well,
if you're looking at a doughnut usually doesn't have it sort of seeping out. I mean a professor role what I'm looking at right now when I search it is what I had yesterday. But what you had yesterday is not what this looks like.
So provisional roll is closer to a jam donut than a chocolate.
An Eclair? Is it an oblong pastry made with
the exact language the exact language that Grace's mom said was an Eclair is a loan per federal.
Interesting because According to Professor roversi clear on Google, perfect to roll up or Shayla claim is a filled French high pastry ball with a typically sweet and mostly filling, of whipped cream, custard pastry cream and a clay is an oblong pastry made with class pastry filled with a cream and topped with chocolate icing. So yesterday you ate what is an Eclair? I reckon I had what was closer to a professor role. No, but in my mind, you know from what they've said here, Josh, but from what in my mind It was the other way. This is these days I'm going down a rabbit hole. This one
started Derek says perfeito is the exact same materials as a chocolate Eclair just a different shape and set of exposure. I mean,
This is great. Should we go? Should we do a profiterole versus Eclair tour? We just go around buying as many of these as we can. And we'll say
yeah, I'm not interested. I'm not interested in for funerals.
To Me too, I swear I am I'm because sometimes they can be a bit like, soggy like, they just they're not
not for them. And it's also like the hot chocolate like what I find is maybe it's just I've never had a good proofreader role, but I put like when I think of preferred roles, I think of 2003 mum having a tray of them that she bought and that you in the fridge and the plastic tray like the it's gonna lead and the lead is a little bit frosty because it's been in the fridge and you open it up and the Yeah, the Federal when you buy into it, the chocolate separates from the actual profit around from the from the roll. So you wind up with this almost ice magic icing thing that is separated from it. And you have no idea of what is happening in the middle until you buy it in, which is my criticism of the chocolate Eclair yesterday.
So, Calvin white said he's a qualified chef, verified eclairs equal long Professor roles.
Oh, big, I think verify. Yeah, I think that you'll you'll find that.
Just see what scooter was saying. If he had if he if he took a guess chocolate eclairs were invented using the extra page straight from someone using croquembouche made out of peripherals
well yeah i think that that definitely there's definitely a that may be the Claire in hindsight is a deconstructed I'm really coming around here but it's it's a deconstructed for fit of Rome
yet and a bit Bogan it wasn't like via just anymore but usually and usually the like the Aussie bakeries the bake houses that do it it's it's not like you'd think the higher end ones are fooled with cream but then the sorry costed and then the you know more bargain ones are like that whipped cream that has that much sugar in it that you can it's it's like it's like
fluff. Well my mom's like gum loves the so her favourite chocolate a clam was it. Power road bakery in doveton, which is where we went and I got a smiley face before that. That we did. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was great. And so there but what she likes about it is she likes the fake. I believe I'm not crossing my wires. The fake crame done right. She's actually better than the real crane. I've heard.
I agree with Lynn Janssen. I like it. It's naughty. Yeah, it's naughty. But it's a bit Bogan, I am a bargain for sure.
Do you know why easily they don't drink cappuccinos after 11am
Why? So they can sleep?
Well, yeah, there was a great there was a great video. I can't remember the guys name but he. He does all coffee style videos on YouTube. He's very, very good English guy. And he deconstructed the whole thing around what it is. People talk about the heaviness of a cappuccino and things like that. But he went a little bit broader and talked about lactose malabsorption and so he went through the scientific stuff around. What are you smiling at Sam's
just, I just I was looking at graphs because she had coffee the other night.
I realised what time Yeah.
This is a six o'clock. Okay.
It's like, it is like Yeah. And so anyway, some work to do later on that baseball actually baseballs on the morning but the, ya know, so the it was very interesting. Like, I think that that's something I could definitely get into is I mean, we haven't even mentioned that yet. We'll just like the really understanding. Like I've seen that coffee art. So I watched a huge 25 minute YouTube video two days ago of a cafe time lapse. I actually think I so I'm going to send it to you because I think I have 20 clients One of our clients at a cafe in the time lapse like it made into time lapse and then I like was googling their office location to see if it was right. Anyway they Yeah, there's there's there's a whole scene of cafe time lapse videos from Melbourne and obviously if you go back like six months ago, everything was fine and you could say oh yeah, but they they have like coffee art cameras set up, and so you can watch them doing the coffee ash. And so I was thinking maybe I could become like the coffee guy in regards to like maybe where I'm having the issue is the moccamaster I can't really do milk stuff so maybe I need like a frother Anna and a whole you know,
Oh, absolutely not absolutely heavy. I I'd put my money on it. You've had a strong coffee today. Have you? I've had a coffee already. Yeah.
Is Am I fired up? Yeah, you fired up. It's good. It's all good. All right, last August.
Yeah. I did, which I reckon we get to tomorrow about that list because I've got a few few things on that list that you put out a year ago that I want to double check on. So save it for tomorrow's weekend.
Play service, can we get a montage of TJ trying to wrap up the show every single continuing?
I think it's like, that's why I said that coffee because as you'll keep going,
you will keep going. It's a daily talk show. Enjoy your weekend. Enjoy your cappuccino. You've got about an hour and a half left.
Before you have to wrap it up.
Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow for another weekend banter. Have a good one.