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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 796. That was great, Mr. Nice.

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Well done and we've also got a gift here Matt Garrick who's on the latest revamp of Big Brother. Welcome mate.

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Thank you so much for having me fellas. It's a It's a pleasure longtime listener first time caller might well

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you know you were expecting Josh but Josh has had a covert test so he's on that lockdown. Self isolation. Mate you went into the big brother house and was Coronavirus even a thing

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when we I think the last news report that I that I saw there was about 30 cases in Australia. So I hadn't really hit our shores yet it was more just all about Wu Han and China and then come out and it's just gone bananas. Yeah, it was pretty crazy,

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dude. And so I can imagine cuz we look at sort of January, February. This is like I had my son's three third birthday and we had 70 people at our house which seems fucking outrageous now and I was chatting to a guy who had been in China we're talking about the virus but I didn't feel like it had the impact when you when you found out in the house because there was that moment that you're all told what was going through your head

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oh I just went on went in I didn't think it was gonna obviously get to the levels that it's got to out here and then when we get told that you know, both football codes have been cancelled there's no Olympics people are fighting over toilet paper it was just like what the hell is going on out there man like it this is this is not Australia. Oh, what are we doing then? leaving the house just you know committing to a basically a zombie apocalypse was just one of the craziest experiences I've ever had.

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Yeah, I feel like um, they would have been some people in there that were like you're you're you're talking shit right Big Brother. Like this is your this is a bit of torque on the part of the game. did with that. vibe.

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Oh 100%

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I gave us a couple of little updates just because it was so light now It sets 100 cases and it was 300 and then within a couple of days that's when I did a big you know announcement that you know, sheets getting real. So the first couple it was just like are they just trying to warn us off a bit more you know, and then when I actually explain the enormity of it, it was far out like this is this is actually real. This is not part of the game anymore. Yeah.

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Matt, you already know God's garden. broken.

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Yeah, not not many people know but Queensland pinch aside from us, boys. Beautiful. One day perfect the next day.

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Mr. Nice, Evan, do you know a broken Hilly's? No, never heard of it?

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No, but no,

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no, no, no but

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and so you're you're back home at the moment. Wednesday night, the Grand Finals so when we know who who's winning. What's it been like being back at home? mean small town how many people live in Broken Hill?

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It's about I don't see as an as, it's sort of it's, it's everyone knows everyone but it's big enough to sort of have some of you have your own space but I mean, I spent Greg getting back at he since the show's been aired, the town's been so supportive and all really getting the 64 year old black abused me at the coffee shop because he says Big Brother, big brother every night which he said he never do. So uh, Ron's been really good. I

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mean 18,000 people seems like a lot but then I thought your Instagram account has 20,000 people so you've got more people following you on Instagram than you do in the town that you live in.

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Instant famous law by Richard monopoly though, isn't it?

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That's reliable chat for for Josh. He loves to build a

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monopoly monopoly.

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I'm rubbish at it.

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Dude, I wouldn't even know the rules to start with. Just be safe. So Mr. 97 has He's had a lot of firsts in his life. Could you even imagine going into the big brother house?

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It'd be pretty crazy. I mean, like, you're meeting everyone for the first time and it's a nightmare. Yeah, that's strange.

what's what's sort of the the experience going in not knowing people and being sort of put in a bit of a pressure cooker?

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Not Not one, I was just so unsure what what to actually expect. And I'm normally pretty good in, in social situations. And a lot of the times I'm sort of one of the bigger voices or personalities in the room. And then I'll walk in with 11 other people who are also that in everyday life, and it was just like, there was a moment they didn't show up that everyone was just going crazy and Xavier and I sort of took a step back and we're like, shit, I don't know if this is awesome, but it was just, yeah, just an explosion of energy and personalities and every single sense and feeling was just heightened for the whole time I was in I was just

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under love. What have you learned about building rapport friendship and trust. Since being in the Big Brother house,

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oh, gee in a, in a guy like that there is such a thing as trust. But now just I guess I think it was about being opens at the walks of life and who's like pretty early in life before that have you know I'm pretty pretty solid in my views and outlook on life and if people tell me otherwise I sort of shut it down but in now obviously I couldn't do that because then if you get people off so idea you're in the gun all of a sudden but I found that by doing that and opening myself up. It's sort of broadened my horizons a bit as well I think and I like to think that I'll take a bit of that back into into real life as

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well. I mean, you play footy in Broken Hill I've heard Durkin being in a club environment, you know, around the boys or just that sort of, you know, you not everyone's you made on the team, their friends or acquaintances during that time. priming upskilling before you went in the Big Brother house,

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yeah, yeah, definitely helped. And also where I work at one of the mindsets out here, there's about 500 people at it. And so just a range of different personalities and outlooks. And I guess yeah, work. 40 is always going to come across people that you don't get along with, but it's all yellow for the sake of for the sake of two hours on a Saturday afternoon, 540. I'm going to be your friend just to make this easier for everyone. So there was a few people in there that I definitely took that that view on.

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What I'm growing up in Broken Hill, you've you're working in the minds. I mean, is there is there a mindset of I want to get out of this place? I mean, you've stayed there, but when you're younger, are you thinking, I'm gonna hit the big smoke, or I want to stay here and sort of build that family in this place where I've grown up?

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Yeah, there's sort of two schools of thought around Broken Hill. Some people love it. Like I'm obviously one of them because I'm still here and I'm able to sort of Join can't wait to get get out get to uni get you know, get it. It's funny a lot of those people end up coming x that's always humorous when I bagged the joint and leave in a in a clinic and then two years later they're back but it's sort of one of those places it's like Anyway, you know, it's who you surround yourself with. It's what you make it. I had aspirations of being a physio. And when I come through you 12 I wasn't smart enough to get that. So check me out the ring for an apprenticeship. Got it. And I'm still here now. sigh but I've got all my family and friends down here. So

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yeah, I mean, Mr. 97 hasn't lived in this suburb.

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He's 21 pretty much five k radius got a bit of a bubble. If you've

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got everything you know.

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Matt, you're a morning electrician. What do you what do you actually do?

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So a lot of breakdown maintenance preventative maintenance on a lot of industrial plant. I'm actually not underground. I'm up topping out processing plots. Yeah, obviously the rocks come from underground, they send them up And then we might come into small rocks and then send them off so yeah we were just in charge of maintaining and keeping the plant running devices pretty much

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I mean for me if I was to have been in another job so I used to be a personal trainer but I reckon if I got on Big Brother I'd be like so done with personal training New Year new me fucking I'm a celebrity for you A thrown in the mining gig just for full time fucking Big Brother guy.

8:30
Oh yeah, I'm probably just gonna become a full time influence and I just really cash in on what good looks charisma. But now it's sort of one of the things like I said it's a good job I like it. pays pays pretty well and it's a good roster, but if this could be a catalyst to sort of bridge into something else, I don't want to be not that there's anything wrong with it, but I don't want to be dragging my ass that mindset went on 50 years old girl and Fuck this. I'm over this I and my fiance Jess is in that film and Maybe it's nearly a moment side obviously the benefits were to move to the to the Big Smoke as you call it. So yeah, if this can sort of bring something like that on I'll definitely be open to it.

9:12
That's I mean I love that it's it was a unique experience you've had I mean, how are you feeling about the future and what you want to do personally around your career outside of mining like is there are you open now to other shit?

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Yeah, I said like

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Like I said, the mining slack or stuff was sort of option two or three and yeah, now that I've sort of been opened more to the to the media and TV and that sort of industry it's it's a pretty cool space to be in obviously, it's got it's it's bad points. It's a fad at the last couple of weeks with the famous internet trolls but yeah, it's it's a lot of fun, and it's something that I'm definitely interested in maybe trying to go a bit further in but obviously Tom What's up everyone this bald head on a strange law.

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Mr. Nice heavens freshly I was gonna say engagement engaged he's in a relationship you know? Do you know about this man

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died how Tell me more good man.

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Well, so we we did a bit of a dating segment on the show a while ago it would have been about a year and a bit ago and my now girlfriend found us through that dating segment and during lockdown with COVID we saw we started like facetiming each other and she's flown over from Perth and we're now living together it's pretty serious.

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That should become a movie.

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Show decide for itself.

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If we if we fire him tomorrow, he's still happy man. You've been with your fiance. 10 years is it?

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Yeah, 10 years have started starting next year. So yeah, just not not quite sure if you want to marry yet.

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Well, I mean, now that your options now that's rude. You're you've got a solid foundation. I feel like that would have to be the case. Going into something like big brother says imagine you go into big brother now how Yeah, that would be a head fuck for you, girlfriend for you What was your fiance's thinking what was she worried about with big Maddie going into the house?

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Oh, just Jess was really really positive about it. Truth be told I actually applied for survivor and the same company produces Big brother and they come back and said would you look at doing the brother in law said I look I'm 30 years old I'm engaged so what big brother had become like a heap of 27 parties I said that's not me like they said now we probably very I like it's gotta be more like survivor which it which it was and that's when I was like, yeah, you know, I'm Kane and then just said, basically you're doing it like you're doing this thing. You can win this thing. So she was really, really positive. I think Her main worry is the weather I don't show too much of my cranky side which I've managed to spot but towards the end I got a little bit testy

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yeah so yeah, I mean that's what I've been thinking about like knowing I'm chatting to you I'm picking my nose and then think in fact there's no cameras on me and I'm enjoying this if there was cameras on me what are what would I continue what was the what was the consideration in your mind versus what you thought it was going to be and then what actually the experience was

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I was so unsure what to what to expect just because I said it's going to be this new format it's not going to be like the big brother but probably went along the lines of how I thought it was going to go with alliances forming and that sort of stuff and so pretty a lot more cutthroat than I thought it was going to be it was said a lot in my intro video they tell regret but was killed a kid but you know what, it was pretty good advice. Skinny ankles it was it was pretty full on but I don't know if I was really prepared for just the enormity of just how I lifted all my all my options and everything with a baby boy about you know a day three or four It was like shit because this is full on but as far as the cameras and that we eat forget about them and be sitting scratching your knots next minute a hand would come out through the wall and claim the lanes and it's like oh shit that's right are you here cameraman call for something so fuck they they still

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would do my heading. Because I like

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that was what was the worst bit was when I went for a pitch the first time and open the toilet door and you hear the camera goes in focus and it's like, oh my god, there's a camera pump.

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That was full on but yeah, but dude,

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seems Could you imagine that? I mean, you're a private guy. Yeah, I feel like in this office building this podcast, Matt. There's been a few moments where I've felt like I'm in high school again. You know, just like Not gossip, but just like oh, this is happening. That's how many that I mean that is this big brother on steroids at that big brother is that on steroids, right? I mean what? You had a bit of an angry side not angry side. I mean I get a bit angry, but I reckon I could hide it. And so were you worried about it coming out? We were about punching someone in the head

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No, that's sort of manga di wire I just tend to get a bit short with with stupid people.

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Yeah, it was big you know, high school was time compared to Big Brother that was just and you know, all played a part in it as well, because it was that's what the game was. But you'd walk into a room and it was so funny. you'd walk in there be three starts talking. To me. They're like, nah, nah. Oh, good. Oh, good. Just, every time. You'd see people in groups, you might start thinking like they talking about me. were they talking about I want to know, so it was pretty funny.

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I was just thinking we could do a fun little thing. Mr. 97th just walked into a big brother audition. Matt, you're the casting director. Can you ask Mr. 97 some of the questions that you got asked in your audition to see if it we've missed the 97th on the next big outfit. Yeah. See how this goes?

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I guess the first thing Why should we pick you I've everyone else.

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Oh, this is

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like, straight off the bat. Wow. All right.

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All right.

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All right. Get on

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great TV cuz it's real.

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In so that was it. Was that off the bat for you? Is that what they asked you?

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Like, well, here's what we bring to the house.

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Yeah. And what did you say what? Run me through a couple of the answers that you gave them? Because I'm planning on going next.

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Door it might do it. I just I think I was just trying to myself I think that we're obviously looking for the the token country, but that turned out to be maybe now I just sort of i was i was honest, you know, yeah, I get a little bit grumpy at times. I'm gonna I've got a little bit of ADHD so I'll be up in a bat. But yeah, what you say is what you get, I'm not gonna go in there and try and be someone i'm not i'm too dumb to carry that out first, you know, seven weeks so yeah, it's just gonna be myself and obviously they they liked what they saw and I take the couple of boxes as far as like I said the country go and uh, you know, a bit laid back so I think that's sort of why I why I got the gig in a sense.

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I know you didn't get a rejection but how are you with rejections? Losing

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off, not great height losing. super competitive. And yeah, a couple of the challenges early on, I was just not like I said that went to air my mites just been kind of me bad and I just saw a loss. And I left the challenge real early as I just hide by no good shit. And that's Yeah, that's my

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projection. Right.

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Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I didn't know that she My problem is that I, I probably act as if how I think they would want me to be. And so what how did you know like for you going? I'm just being me? How do you know what? To read one bit like, what does that look like in an environment where you're asked to tell us about yourself? How do you just be you?

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I think it was, I'd had the, you know, before I did the auditions, like what sort of person are they going to going to be looking for? Why have I got to this stage of the audition, but then Jess was really helpful a lot my fiance because she's worked in that in that space before. She's worked on a few movies and commercials sort of productions and she's been directly involved in casting people but it's sort of been around that process. And he said, If you come up if you're over the top and, and like I said, you're trying to be someone that you're not, they're gonna say straight through it. So it's just, I'm not even gonna I'm gonna remove those thoughts in my brain. Just talk to him, you know as if I'm talking to one of my minds and if it's good enough sweet if it's not okay, it'll be a little bit disappointed but it's not the end of the world so yeah, that's sort of the way I approach suggests was really really helpful there.

18:12
Social media I know you said you've grown your following what did you go in? How many followers did you have? previous to going in and then coming in?

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Look, I'm not sure but 1400 and 35

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I know that because one of my mates is very, he's very not died me every time it goes off. 1000 he, he's got the screenshot of before I went in, and then everything else, excuse me an update the idiot

18:36
that I'm Italian itali Smyth was telling us that when she went in they she had to hand over login. Is that what you had to do this time?

18:46
Yeah, yes. All all social media passwords. They had to go through and check everything. So you had to get rid of all the dick pics and stuff in. But now that was a bit. I mean, I've got nothing to hide, but it was a bit annoying. Having just sort of gone Hey guy. Yeah, check out my life. Yeah, that gave it back in between, you know in the goalposts on changing all the passwords straight up.

19:11
So yeah, it was a bit unnerving but it's all part of the process. We knew that so, so good. what's what's been the cat I know you've connected with tally Smyth through Instagram and anyone else you've connected with post show post coming out of house. Oh,

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yeah, a couple of the old contestants have been in touch with me. Yeah, just sort of, you know, I got on Big Brother. Now I'm part of the fraternity which is the guy so entirely I'll be honest. But now they've all been really supportive. And I've found that they more so than anyone else in media sort of circles in podcasting circles. They're really supportive of us as housemates, you know, regardless of what how we've been betrayed and how we've come across. They sort of haven't seemed to have taken that into account and just taking us as who we are and being really supportive and just sort of saying through it a bit I think because I've all been there before so it's really good to have a sounding board like that to sort of bounce stuff off Trevor Butler who want to way back in the day he's a he's a Broken Hill boy as well he gives me like a running commentary on every episodes that's been really fun as well.

20:22
Have you been watching it? Every every year?

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Oh, I have to start with I was like No, I'm not gonna watch this shit. I don't want to hide listen to my voice. I don't want to say what I look for. But then I was like, Oh, I really want to know what everyone else was having. So I sort of got a bit hooked on it I guess which is a good thing and it obviously means of shows doing the right thing so yeah, I'll sit down and watch it every no odd it's like a roller coaster and then once again, all those emotions are heightened because it takes me back to how I was feeling during that time and then when the episode thanks,

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Rod i'd bet but yeah, it's it's such

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a yo yo makes it work and the people around you What are they saying? What are they thinking? They watching?

21:04
Oh, they're they're so so passionate. This it's been a big week for me this this last couple of weeks. Last couple weeks have been because I've been day shift at work. So I'll go through all the emotions at home watching it, you know shit that sucked. And then I'll cop all the shit on social media, and then walk into work at 6:30am in the boys locker. Oh, what about this? And that's all I want to read. It's I can't escape it. Now. They're super supportive. And yeah, I could have killed someone in there and I still would have had my back. I think that's what a good so that's right. Yeah.

21:36
Did you get paid to go in? what's the what's the financial deal?

21:41
Yeah, so we got a per diem. We got 150 bucks a day. But obviously, that was just to sort of cover our bills and expenses at home side. That was a case of I gave all the all the credit card details all the bill details suggested she took care of that while I was away, but yeah, hundred $50 Die but I was on long service late from work as well. So I still had

22:04
you been making more money than anyone in the house.

22:07
You might just make them I was making bank mad when this

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lady got a per diem, you know expenses no risk, free rent free food. I didn't feel at all like a holiday or did it feel like some kind of mental game

22:25
felt like a holiday for about two half days was sitting out by the pool and the budgie smugglers working on the tan, which is rubbish. And then all of a sudden the voice comes over. It's like get ready for your first nomination challenge and you could just say everyone just got frantic all of a sudden it's like, oh shit, that's right. We're here to like, as soon as that first challenge happened to change the whole vibe of the place but for the first couple of days it was it was nice. I was learning how to make bread working on the 10 helping everyone cook and then it just went to shit off to that.

22:52
Mental Health they they putting a focus on people's well being in their from mental health. capacity.

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Yeah, yeah, that Endemol production company, we're really good. That was we had a sock screening before we before we went in. And then we had a doctor like just a JP and a sock available 24 seven, where if we went to the dye room and said to Big Brother, you know, I'm not doing real good here. We could we could get the SOC in and talk to them. And it was the actual SOC, not big brother voice or something like that. And then since we've left manager, the first person I saw out of the house was her, sat down with her for a couple of hours and had a really good chat, like a debrief and then the sock as well. So they've been really good. There's a heavy focus on it, which I think is so important in this day and age of our social media.

23:44
And what have you learned about your mental state after experiencing something like that? Because it's like an experiment, right?

23:52
Yeah, I think

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I learned I was pretty resilient, maybe a bit more resilient than then I thought, I might have been but also

24:02
the annoying thing. The annoying thing about resiliency is that you need to go through something to work out if you're resilient or not. It's like that's how

24:10
that's right. Yeah, Yeah, you did. That's right. You don't know if you got it until you sort of have to front up and use it I guess. But yeah, since I've come out of there I think mine is still a little bit all over the shop. I'm bloody I'll cry just about every every movie I'll watch now which I never used to cry and Armageddon in a box that that's changed. But I think it's sort of showed me that it's okay to let these emotions go and you know, and let it put it out there to the world because before I was probably typical, I guess country blog minor sort of thing you know, it's a keep it in and bottle it up. I'm okay. It's so good. And now it's you know, it's okay if you if you feeling different ways to sort of express it.

24:55
How do you think your mental state would be saved?

24:57
I reckon I would I would struggle I reckon. Just not having having all the different personalities and just, you know, you might not have a couple that you won't gel with. And so just being able to deal with that, as well as you know, the fact that everything's so public, I think would be a big struggle.

25:14
Well, I mean, friends are such an important part of our existence, or just someone like you know, having your fiance just there next, you're just able to talk to her through things. Did you? Did you realise that you lean on people more than you do? Think you do or what?

25:32
Yeah, 100% it was there was a lot of times where I was just sort of like, I just want to give Jess a hug and you know, make sure it's gonna be okay. Or I just want to you know, go and kick the footy in my mind, so just talk shit like go and have a beer or go grab a coffee with him and that was a what just sort of escalated everything is every time you'd feel out that you'd look around and say the same four walls and go shit this is it. I can't escape like it's it's like a zoo but I definitely realise what they what they mean to me and how they help Yeah, get through those sort of struggles, I guess,

26:03
from what you I'm sure you're, you're coming years younger than me. I'm sure you watch Big Brother back in the day. And the format that it was. You're, you're, you're the guy who's actually experienced the new format. What is what's your vibe on the new format versus the old format?

26:19
Ah, for me, like I said at this stage in my life it was it was probably a lot better. I mean, I'm super competitive. So I love the challenge. So I'm forming alliances and the strategy side of it because I'm a big fan of survivor too, but I when I was younger and bit Celia, I really enjoyed the the old, the old format. It's been interesting to watch the way that they've sort of pieced it together. And I think they've gone for sort of bang for their buck as far as drama and that sort of thing and giving people an outcome whenever you decide, you know, someone goes home every every night. So that's what they're sort of doing. Really chasing whereas the old one, I guess, was really just a social experiment of, you know, let's check all those different personalities in and see what we get. And the one thing that I think people are sort of struggling to get their head around is, at times, I think, expecting a big brother. It's gonna be what it is. And I'm struggling to now comprehend it's completely different. You know, we're copying a bit of a caning about some of the things we've said and done in there and it's all it's a different game if it was the big brother. I never would have had to do that shit. But it's interesting to watch it.

27:30
I mean, I've just it's uh, have you have you done this yourself typed into Google Matt Garrick Daily Mail

27:38
You know, this is so fucked but

27:42
Dude, I wouldn't I would have done this and get

27:45
me started on that night. Some of these like I'm not eating bag me house nights, but some of them I'll shoot you know and have been emailing the Daily Mail teeing up like pepper it shoots really night. It's Oh, my it's the most embarrassing thing. So, Dan and I've obviously one of the other housemates, we're gonna catch up before the finale in Sydney and we're gonna we're talking about trying to tell you one up and then just dressing like dickheads like say all the gal for dinner here and then come out just wearing ridiculous clothes and just sort of take the piss out of it a bit, but

28:14
I'll see how we go. I mean, let me just read a couple of these big brothers Matt Garrick takes on nausea assault and after being called out what happened their

28:24
bodies Yeah, he's there was a bit of an article on an Instagram thing called Dan and all the bullies and nasty great man NASA didn't watch mass. But he jumped on and said, you know, why isn't the audience calling this hour? That's right, because they're a white bogans are these two idiots that sort of said my view of all people should know how edited reality TV is in any company fired a couple of shots back and said if I didn't like it, don't you know don't apply for the show. Don't wait. So I googled NASA and the first thing that came up interestingly enough was NASA south and Mike's video. produces a big brother mess. I think now Just a bit jealous he didn't get a gig.

29:02
I mean, isn't this just a what it weren't an experience where you're coming out? And then having little tips with other reality paper like this? Do you think that would be your life in 2020 made?

29:15
Oh god no, right like 2020s gal bad enough. I don't need to be having Instagram battles with someone I don't know. But it's that when I saw that I was like, Oh shit, I gotta be careful what I say and doing, you know, because people are just, you know, prying for it. So, I never thought it would end up in a well, I was gonna say a news article, the Daily Mail article said that was a bit of an eye opener.

29:38
I mean, it's, uh, have you have you said stuff that outside of that. Have you said stuff that you've had to check yourself on and be like fact and I don't actually think that or if I say that

29:53
in the house, you mean or

29:55
even in the house even after the house because that's I guess with what that situation happened was Post Yes,

30:01
yeah, so there's

30:04
not really I've been pretty mindful of what I've put into the open space since I've since I've, you know, since the show has been to air but as far as in the house that was a game and yeah, I said and did a lot of stuff I probably wouldn't do the outside world button it's because it's not real often there literally isn't it's it's cold reality TV but there's there's not a reality about that that setting. But since I've been out now, I've sort of kept my patapon is when Charles and that Come on, I just sort of, you know, take the piss out of him a bit and kill him with kindness and most of them sort of backpedal pretty quick. So that's, that's humorous, but the only things that I've sort of cold people out on is stuff like that like bullying and a blood. Simon body shaming people and that's just not true. And I'm not gonna sit here and let my my name and reputation get run through the mud. So that's the only time that I've sort of got my back up a bit.

30:56
How is your consumption changed? Have you did you Have to catch up on anything after the show.

31:03
Oh my everything. I'm a sports not so come out and yeah, all the sports being cancelled MB is being cancelled, but I had to catch up with all those results. A local cricket team won the Premiership so I missed that. I think for the first three weeks I didn't really understand the enormity of COVID because I wasn't really watching the news. And I come back into two weeks of quarantine. And my first day I was like to Jess, I'm going to the shops I can't wait to go. Went to Kohl's and saw a couple of months I hate going and I sold it just put the head down and kept walking and I got home I was like Ah, so I know the shopping Evan said hello. And she's like, no, no stop. Shut up. Why not? I just didn't understand.

31:46
That was pretty funny. I had had Toby Bryant passed away before you'd gone in.

31:52
Ah, yeah, Coby passed away just before we went in. So I'll miss this memorial. That was one of the first things that I did. Watch came out and yeah the speeches said they're pretty pretty much a hate. hate going just before we went in.

32:07
Have you got your phone on you? I just want to get you to look at your screen time Tell me what what you're what you're talking about like this is something we do quite a bit does look at screen time but I could imagine coming out I'd be fucking glued to my fire definitely waiting for all those follows

32:26
on the fridge every time every time I get another number my average Instagram time per day, two and a half hours. That's not good.

32:37
That's lowest shit now that's pretty good. Yeah,

32:41
maybe. Anyway, just a go man. I think I'm coming in at five hours for Instagram and I don't I don't even have a following. You know people feel like anxious or worried when their phone isn't within arm's reach. What was that vibe? Go into the house he obviously can't have yet you found

33:02
it was actually really refreshing. I was a bit like, you know, not sure how I was going to go and and to be honest I was probably spending more time on my phone before and it felt really really weird when I came out and actually got my phone back if they sound stupid but it felt it felt strange to have it in my hand and so I forgot what that what that felt like and then turned it on and it had well over 1000 text messages and all those missed calls and because I didn't tell anyone where I was going I told my best mate and obviously Jess, I didn't even tell mama dad so people were ringing mom and dad lot where's where's Marika? Get under it, but it was really refreshing to not have it the thing I missed most like I said before, was my main thing on my phone is checking sports scores, watching watching sports, sports buddy having a punt, so that's what I've missed.

33:56
I've heard a rumour that you're one of the worst punters out there.

34:02
Mind off. Absolutely if I if I bet that the sun will come out tomorrow it'll be in apocalypse mine. I'm rubbish.

34:09
Seriously? Okay, stop a dry night.

34:13
I've also heard that you're the only guy in Broken Hill to wear Birkenstocks. Is this true?

34:20
Yeah, I don't love me because I've got them on at the moment. Oh, where the the enclosed ones too and they were just think they flash Crocs, but then more than that.

34:28
Can't you just enclose the open ones with a nice pair of hard yakka socks or something?

34:33
Yeah, I'll say a few people around the socks and bear keys and I'm not at that level yet the Birkin socks but

34:41
the close ones. Actually the crocs that are on the I'm real conscious about it. You can't even save

34:47
saves. Is there anything that you'd want to know from someone who has experienced something that not many people not many people get to go on a reality show? I don't know what's weird Coronavirus, reality or being in a reality show. What's more unusual

35:00
That is pretty weird. I mean I guess I guess the whole thing of going in and the isolation from I think the social relationships how how did you feel that that that changed your friendships with not only your mates but also colleagues at work and also your partner

35:19
coming out all I wanted to do was obviously just pick me up from the airport and just we had about a five minute cuddle and I lost about six or seven kilos so then she's just spent the next 20 minutes can only go so much why but so with ties anyway, but coming out with her was a bit weird for probably the first week we weren't really sure how to feel about it or have we obviously we know how we feel about each other but it was just a strange vibe. And then it was it was tough coming into two weeks of our into isolation because all I wanted to do was catch up with my mates and I had this this image in my head that when I got home Whether it lasted a week, five weeks, whatever, as I'm all my mates around Hi, all my family I'm gonna put a big piece up on him. We're all gonna have a good time. And then I can't say him so we're doing like FaceTime bees and I just this isn't cutting the mustard I need to see you guys really, I think solidified my friendships with my with my friends and my family. I've got a little two year old nephew and not being able to see him for so long. When I finally could save and just give him the biggest cuddle that was that was awesome. And I think out of it, Jess and I probably stronger because now we're dealing with everything that comes with it together as a team, so it's been good.

36:38
If there's ever anyone who could feel like they're in a simulation, I feel like it's you coming out of a reality show into a reality show basically. It's Yeah. Seriously, dude, I appreciate you. I know you've been supporting the daily talk show from afar where if I can rooting for you to take home the weeknights. So Thanks for coming on the show.

37:05
Just before we finish up, I heard you've got a bit of a story about how you found the show.

37:10
While doing it, yes. So we were travelling through the stage just now for about a month in October last year. And we did part of that was a bit of about a week and a half long road trip. And obviously, there's a lot of a lot of time to fill this. I can't even really, I shall do now I found you guys were sitting in a bluestone line coffee shop in Brooklyn. And I was like, I'm pretty sure this is an Aussie guys franchise and then googled it and yeah, Nick stone come up, and there was a link to your talk show. And listen to that. Listen to grant. Smiley, and there was one with Tolly and I was like, this is really cool. And yeah, it's since then I've sort of been listening. Because Jess and I've sort of really loved the states. We've been a four times and I've said we'd love to have a crack at it. Obviously not actually I but Listening to those guys and listening to you to your podcast is really inspiring. And I've sort of been hooked ever since I keep the good stuff coming.

38:07
Right. Thank you. That would have been so October because we were there from October one. Yeah. Through to like the 14th or 15th or something. Yeah. Oh, is it November November?

38:18
Well after because I have my birthday. November.

38:22
Nice. Well, thank you, bro. It's not so much. Hopefully, we can actually one day have a beer when when that kind of shit is real. All that never is happening. It will be a virtual beat.

38:35
There's a lot.

38:37
You're gonna need. You're gonna need words to Josh.

38:41
He's battling at home. Look,

38:43
look Josh I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed. You know, he might but I seriously rest up. God I hope you have COVID now I've said that. Get better and yeah, who knows? We might get a chat in the future.

38:56
Awesome, bro. Have a good one. I'll speak to you soon. Dead.

39:00
Thank you. Thanks for having me.