Fad Fridays

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 751.

Josh: Happy Fat Friday, Gronks.

Mason: Oh yeah, oh, we're clapping.

Josh: I feel like it's going a bit old school today because I've sent Georgie boy out on a bit of a mission. Fat Fridays, what is it? Well, it's when we celebrate the end of the week with our favourite food. That was until Josh went on fad diet, so this week's theme of Fat Friday is fad diet themed.

Tommy: I appreciate that. Interestingly, you said to Georgie Boy, mate, thank you so much for getting all of the food. Did you get footage?

Josh: Yeah, I asked him if he did, if he got footage. What did you say?

George: Forgot.

Josh: He forgot. So I'll be needing to find another video to make today and you'll be editing it. So sucked in.

Tommy: Serves you right for outsourcing.

Josh: Well, So I've been getting a few updates on my phone about where my card has been being used. We had one at Chemist Warehouse and then another $30-something at Woolworths. So that's safe. That's where we've got the food from today. And he's brought me over a cup and a spoon. It's like between a teaspoon and a tablespoon, like a tablespoon.

George: It's a teaspoon.

Tommy: Today I'll be eating laxatives.

Josh: So Georgie boy, can you run us through first and then bring it over to us, please.

Tommy: Oh, sorry, he's not, he's not talking.

Josh: So he's getting, he's getting in the bag.

Tommy: It's a big bag. You need to talk.

Josh: Run us through it and then bring it over to us.

George: So first step, just calm down.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, take a breath, mate.

George: Okay, first step was at Chemist Warehouse.

Josh: Yes.

George: And so I got some healthy weight quality snacks, banana chippies.

Josh: Yeah, great. I love them.

Tommy: Yeah, I like them.

George: I know.

Josh: What are you— the ones you like?

Tommy: I love mango.

Josh: Yeah, mango.

Tommy: Real naughty. That is a bag from Costco or whatever.

George: Yeah.

Mason: Yeah.

George: And I got 2 packs of these because they looked good.

Tommy: Honey cashews. Oh, that's good.

Josh: He's just gone healthy way. So if you're on a fad diet, there's just— I go anything that says health on it. That's what you've done.

George: Yeah, exactly. And then I've got for dessert. Bit of low-cal ice cream.

Tommy: Oh yeah, you've gone Halo Top brand.

George: Yeah, it's vanilla bean, it's 280 calories per tub for the whole tub.

Tommy: But that's what you want. If they're doing anything that's not telling you the whole tub, they're being dishonest.

Josh: Otherwise you need to be a mathematician to work out the back of it. Yeah, Jesus.

George: Outrageous.

Tommy: I want to try the— I know you wouldn't have got them, but you know the yoghurt that you were getting into a while ago?

Josh: The YoPro protein one?

Tommy: YoPro now has their own ice cream.

Josh: Oh, really? Protein ice cream?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: That's good.

George: There you go, mate.

Josh: I'm into that.

George: This, I reckon this is what the mug's for, and I reckon I don't think it's going to be nice. It's a probiotic, probiotic blueberry milk.

Tommy: Okay.

Mason: What is it?

Tommy: I won't be having that.

Mason: Can you read the label, George?

Josh: What is it?

George: Probiotic Swedish style filmjolk. Film Yolk? No, no, no, 50 billion good bacteria per serve.

Tommy: How many?

George: 50 billion!

Josh: Baby, you gotta have a little bit. You've had nothing but protein bars and meat this week so great for your gut that you need— you need to sort of get out what it means.

Tommy: It's just a big yukult.

Josh: What are the ingredients, George?

George: 15 live cultures and probiotics.

Tommy: I'm cultured enough, but okay right, so there's that. Anything else or is that all you've got?

George: Ingredients: whole milk, blueberry puree concentrate, cane sugar, natural blueberry flavour.

Tommy: Cane sugar is the third one.

George: Live cultures.

Josh: So that's—

George: live cultures as an ingredient doesn't sound that good. Okay.

Josh: But I'm keen. Seb, I reckon you're keen too.

Mason: I'll have that. It's just milk. It's blueberry milk.

Tommy: I've never been a milk guy.

Mason: It's sweetened.

George: Yeah.

Josh: I mean, the problem with— before we sort of— we can get to that, but like fad diet foods or things that seem healthy, you sort of like, you drink that like you would drink normal milk. It's like kombucha. I've drank that like it's a big, you know, lemonade.

Tommy: The other problem with it is that these are all sort of conflicting ideas. So, it's sort of the equivalent of going like the banana chips and then going keto. You need to pick one. So, you've got every—

Mason: Oh, wait till he put it.

Josh: Hang on, what's he got now?

George: The last one is, you get what you get and you don't get upset.

Tommy: Okay, good.

Josh: Yep, yep, yep.

Tommy: Where did that come from again?

Josh: Who said that one? Yeah, my sister-in-law. Yeah, and she got it from someone.

Tommy: You get what you get, but you don't get upset. I love that. That's very good.

George: Uh, I got 5 of these, and Whitey and Harry are both in the building, so they have to fight.

Tommy: Okay, great.

George: Okay, uh, the first one is— what's this? Low carb protein bar.

Josh: Yeah, great. Lovely, lovely. Yeah, good one.

George: This one's for me.

Josh: Kick.

Tommy: Yeah, can we get— no, do that again. Can we get a little read?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, can we get it clean?

Tommy: How The buns nice and soft. What did you say?

George: Keep It Clean is plant-based protein crunch, dark choc, sour cherry, vegan, all-natural source of dietary fiber.

Mason: What's great about it?

George: Uh, it's a yummy blend of dark chocolate, cranberries, and sour red cherries, crunchy puffed chickpeas.

Tommy: To be honest, that's— if I was to pick one for a Fat Fridays, that's it, because it's sort of like there's, there's not— the shit that I keep eating is all the, um you know, it's protein powder formed into a Mars bar, whereas this is actually like—

Mason: it literally says chocolate brownie on your bar.

Josh: Yeah, I know. And what's— okay, what else you got?

George: Another one, uh, Musashi.

Josh: Yeah, great.

Mason: Shred and what? What does that say on it?

George: Just shred and burn. Another protein bar, low carb.

Josh: Yeah, great.

Tommy: This one, oh, the classic Aussie Bodies.

Josh: This is Josh's actual shopping list.

Tommy: Oh, Cliff.

Josh: Okay, okay.

George: Yeah, that's it.

Tommy: All right, good job. That's solid.

Josh: So that was Chemist Warehouse as well.

George: Yeah, so these were Clemens Warehouse, the nuts. Yeah, and the rest was Woolies.

Tommy: What'd you spend?

George: I think it was like $40.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, great.

Tommy: Is that good?

Josh: Great. It's, um, it's on par with what you've been doing for your diet, so if we do have leftovers, you can take them.

Tommy: Thank you, I appreciate it.

Josh: All right, so, um, I'm gonna have some of that milk to kick us off.

Tommy: Okay, I might have, um, what was the first ice cream? Thank you. Yeah, let's try ice cream.

Josh: Yeah, get him a little thing so I can—

Mason: Do you want bananas as well, Josh?

Tommy: Thank you. So because it says Halo Top, I imagine that it's got like, um, the, you know, like the Magnum has the chocolate top that you break. Am I— is that—

Josh: yeah, that's what I was thinking. Um, I'm pretty much drinking— it's just yogurt, guys. I'm pretty sure, like, it's just— it is legit yoghurt in a probiotic in what looks like a milk bottle.

Tommy: Okay, maybe I'll scoop my ice cream in.

Josh: Tastes great.

Mason: Really?

Tommy: Into, uh, what's it called, the cup, the mug. All right, I'm gonna— it doesn't smell like anything, but, uh, I mean, how, how often— thank you, Georgie boy, you've just given me the shred and burn. Uh, it's got Garcinia. Oh, so Garcinia, it's got some Garcinia. Do you remember Garcinia?

Josh: They get it off you.

Tommy: So Garcinia cambogia, I, um, in 2000 2012, I bought $250 worth of, uh, Garcinia Cambogia and TestoStrong tablets that I read online. It was a Facebook ad.

Mason: Was this Hugh Jackman?

Tommy: It was a Men's Health Hugh Jackman article. It was fake. And, um, so I— yeah, anyway, I, uh, I bought a lot of that and it went to waste. I'm gonna try this Halo Top. All of this stuff feels like it's stuff that you'll shit yourself eating.

Josh: Dude, the amount of time I've spent in the supermarket reading the back of labels, and it's like I can't get that time back, you know? And I don't think it's done much for me because then you just land on something crap and then— or like something low-cal, then you blow out later on. It's very, very annoying.

George: That is a giant scoop. Oh my God.

Tommy: That's how— I mean, that's a skill, isn't it? But also, and also, it's only 100 calories.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Such a small spoon. Um, the coffee this morning— normally Bree gets me coffee.

Mason: You might have just spilled some.

Josh: Yeah, Mason, don't talk with your mouth open on the mixer.

Tommy: It's fine, it's fine. Okay, it's all good. Um, so stand by. Yeah, we're all good. Um, the— well, it's good, it's vanilla-y. So yeah, this morning Bree's been getting me coffee, uh, Every morning since COVID I've sort of said, you know, I think one of us should be on the front line. And she also, she enjoys the banter between the, like, the baristas and all that sort of thing. Whereas I followed them on Instagram, they followed me back.

Josh: Then you unfollowed them.

Tommy: No, I didn't unfollow them, but now I'm just like, oh, so we know each other. It's that weird. I feel like now if I go to the café, it's like going to be meeting internet friends for the first time, and I don't need that at 7:30 in the morning when I just want a coffee. Okay.

Josh: So, you're thinking that they're on your feed, just understanding Josh Jansen.

Tommy: Yeah, they just are. It's like, yeah, if I come in with the hoodie on, the Daily Talk Show, I'm just like, everyone's going to drop what they're doing and be like, Josh Jansen. There's going to be slow claps.

Josh: Like, I know you got there talking about it, but that's how it seems like you're thinking. Do you think that? Is that—

Tommy: well, no, I think that there could be a conversation, like how much buy-in. I don't want to know how much buy-in the barista has with me.

Josh: Well, I'm just gonna— I'm just looking at your feed to just see if you can get a snap of Josh Jansen, you know, at a glance. Who's Josh?

Tommy: Good at Monopoly. I don't know.

Josh: Yeah, don't get it real. I don't get a real sense. Not a bad thing.

Tommy: But anyway, I told Seb's about this, so he picked me up from my house this morning.

Josh: Just walking, not in a car.

Mason: Yeah, not in a car.

Tommy: He definitely didn't drive. No. But he picked me up and we went to a cafe and he stood there with me as a sign of support whilst I got the coffee.

Josh: How was the experience? I mean, let's find out the experience.

Mason: I mean, it took a while before we got to the cafe because we had to go passed about 4 of them that Josh wasn't comfortable entering.

Josh: Hang on, wait, wait, the first one you saw and you were like, too many people, literally too many people.

Tommy: Second one, that was the social media, and that was the one that the social media that they, uh, they followed me. So I didn't want to go to the ones that followed me, but I do support them every single day because Bree normally goes in there. Shout out to Georgia and the great team there at Office Coffee if you're listening.

Mason: Oh yeah, but anyway, so we, we get it.

Josh: I get, I get the thought that you think that they're following you. It's just as quite extreme.

Tommy: Well, because Bree exacerbates it because I say, when you talk about me— I don't know why I ask— when you talk about me, do you say Josh or do you say my boyfriend? Josh Jansen. Well, she says, no, I'd say, oh yeah, Josh is, um, doing this today or doing that. So I feel like I've Created a real storey in my head.

Mason: They've got your calendar.

Tommy: Yeah. The Josh Jant, like, I know it's. And so anyway, we ended up going to Susie's, which is the café that was below our old office.

Josh: Yeah. If anything, they follow you and know more about you.

Tommy: So there was a bit of anxiety about that. So I was like, okay, I don't want them to give me a discount anymore because they were doing that for a long time after we left, which made me uncomfortable.

Mason: Almond milk as well.

Tommy: Yes.

Mason: You were taking a stab at their bottom line.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. Well, back in the day. Anyway, so I did, I decided to go in. Mason said it will be fine.

Josh: And holding your hand.

George: Yeah.

Josh: Meanwhile, Mason's got off the bus and walked 4K to get to your house to then handhold to a cafe.

Tommy: And so went in.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: So, he sort of stood back. I even forgot to ask if Mason wanted anything.

Mason: Yeah, you were so— you were in your head. You were real focused.

Tommy: Would you have had a hot chocolate if I asked?

Mason: Would have it made you more comfortable?

Tommy: No.

Mason: Okay, then no.

Tommy: And so I, um, yeah, so I went up. The great thing was, uh, Nikki, who works at Susie's, she wasn't that like up for a convo too, because it's one of those things where it's like we haven't seen each other in 6 months, lots of things have changed. The whole like, what's news, what's happening, like it's a very draining conversation. It's like I saw Nick Capper the other day just walking a lot, like, walking along.

Josh: You two, you two, Nick Capper personality, Josh Janson personality colliding.

Mason: What happens?

Tommy: And then so it's like two unusual animals meeting in the forest, like it's not a bit Yeah. Oh, it actually worked out really well. I didn't think we were walking along. I was like, ah, kappa. He's like, ah, hey Josh. Like, yeah, just walk and drink your coffee. Like, yeah, that's so good. And, um, Bree was with me. I was like, oh, that went well.

Josh: What did Bree say?

Tommy: Yeah, she's like, yeah, it did. Because, and Bree also went like, yeah, yeah, coffee.

Josh: Weather.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, but the thing it was, and so that was what was good with Nikki today at the, the café was I was saying to 97, like when we were talking, like when I went up to order the coffee, when you've spoken to, like, we've had a bunch of conversations with Nikki over the past.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: You know, over the 2 years or whatever, or a year and a half that we were there. Yeah.. And so, you can't just say, oh, hello, like, hi, could I get. So, my inflection was, hi. Because like.

Mason: That was bang on.

Tommy: It's like, hi, because like I know you and you know me and it's great to see you.

Josh: Hi.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: And she, and the great thing is like, she's like, oh, hey. What do you reckon she said back?

Mason: There was a little inflection, like it was returning the favour.

George: Yeah.

Mason: She was acknowledging that you knew each other.

Tommy: But no how are you's, which was appreciated. It all round, I think.

Josh: Okay. I think you've got to know that if you're speaking to someone who has a cafe, they aren't experiencing what you are. Like, so immediately, like, you couldn't own a business like that where you're needing to see people's hairdressers and stuff. You can't. They end up just like, it's just like a numbness to the experience.

Tommy: That's why I don't think I could. Could you imagine me owning a cafe? Just like, oh no, fuck, I was just in the kitchen. I see John's out there. I haven't seen John in 6 weeks. What do I say?

Josh: It would be a funny character you're in a film, like a Seinfeld episode. It is a bit Seinfeld episode-esque, like the Josh Janson Cafe. Yeah, it's like you're always hiding from customers. Everyone wants to see you because they love the cafe, they love you, and then they're just like, yeah, what's it?

Tommy: But it's so, it's so wrapped up in anxiety.

Josh: It is. That's why it's like, I was thinking you can't make fun of it. Yeah, mental illness is not yucky. Um, but in terms of like you getting better at it? Because even that phrase, getting better, is you trying to move away from that sort of—

Tommy: Can I eat ice cream while you talk?

Josh: Just one scoop. What is, what is a version? So if without the judgment, getting better could be judgment, but for you to feel more sort of at ease in these social situations, what is the mechanism that you've used in the past to make it work or make it just be more pleasant experience for you. Because I don't think that sounds— that's funny when you say it, but I don't think it's that pleasant for you. It's very internal. It's very—

Tommy: Well, that's what I liked about Pavlov's Dark. It was— there were no bullshit. It was always a money transaction.

Josh: But where they are arrogant for—

Tommy: No, no, I think— No, I just think that they just like— they're just— they know that you're just a customer. You're coming in.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: The problem with Pavlov's was when they charged me $7 for a mocha.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And I blew up. And because I blew up, it's like I can't really go back there.

Josh: No, I get that, but that's not answering the question. The question is, what does it—

Tommy: what do I need to be happy?

Josh: How do you tame that sort of wildness?

Tommy: I think it's just not giving a fuck.

Josh: Yeah, and how do you not give a fuck? Because you've not— I don't— I think you've actually not given a fuck this week when we were talking about a few things, your weight. Like, it was less thought about how others are then judging how you were thinking. Like, no, but that's your experience.

George: I had to take my glasses off at the cafe because I was fogging up.

Josh: Oh yeah. Abe Souzis?

Mason: Yeah, yeah. Well, the thing is, it's a whole experience that starts minutes before he walks into the cafe.

Tommy: I couldn't talk to Seb.

Mason: Literally, I was telling him, mate, I've just listened to this great podcast on superannuation. He's like, oh yeah. And he's just off in his head just thinking about it. We're probably like 30 minutes away.

Josh: It's an interesting one. How do you think? Because I think I was going to say, I don't think I let you get away with it as hard as that.

Tommy: No, you do. Because I literally said to Seb, I think I'm just going to get TJ to get my coffee today because you have been getting me coffee most days.

Josh: Becoming a nice little habit, isn't it? I don't even ask you now. I get it for you.

Tommy: And so the thing is that, but even Lauren said, this is the problem. We shouldn't know the names of all these people.

Josh: I love it. Georgie boy and I, we go to, we go to AU79, but also we go to Long Street Coffee in In Abbottsville. What's it— how— like, George, you even said this week you're an anxious guy. Yeah, but I love how you deliver the protein bars.

George: Yeah, it's pretty accurate.

Tommy: I love that. What was it? What was the anxious bit about the protein bars, by the way? Was it just like—

George: oh, I don't know, just trying to get it done as quickly as possible. Um, I love, I love being a regular at a cafe, and I love it when they know your name. It's like, it actually makes me stay there. And if they know your order, then I'm like, okay, well now I have to come back here because it's fun and you don't want to mess it up. You don't want to like change your order up, even though I do.

Mason: What if they mess it up?

George: Ah, it's all good.

Mason: I just feel like it'd be awkward if, if they've done 5 weeks of getting your order right and then—

Josh: mate, humans make mistakes. Yeah, you fuck up our merch runs, it's all good.

Tommy: Yeah, so Georgia at Office Coffee She knew that I wasn't doing coffee and she knew that I was becoming the tea guy. And there was, there's a lot that they knew that I was drinking chai.

Josh: How did she know you were becoming the tea? You told her, didn't you?

Tommy: No, no, because I've never— I've only met her before I started following her on— So, so what happened was I followed them on social media during ISO because there's this confidence of like I'm never going to see you, so let's be, let's be Instagram friends. And so, but then now there is that sort of, oh, you can go in and visit. And so, no, the reason why she knows about it was because obviously she knows Bree's order. So it's like, oh, two, uh, two large almond caps. And Bree says, oh no, um, uh, one almond chai please instead of the cap. Uh, Josh is not drinking coffee at the moment. He's becoming the tea guy. And then they have banter around it where it's like, ah, he'll be back. How does she know that? How did she know?

Josh: Because a guy that says he's the tea guy drinking an almond chai latte is definitely going back to coffee.

Tommy: Well, yeah. So anyway, I— What were you going to say, Seb? Is there anything else on that whole experience?

Josh: It was weird. And he's never walking to your house again.

Mason: Yeah, it was just wrapping, like as soon as we walk out of the building and It does take you a little bit to get it back into the groove of conversation.

Tommy: To get up. Yeah, I was talking about the cafe for 5 minutes after that. It's been like, well, that went well.

Josh: What was more boring, his Super Chat or your cafe?

Tommy: It's equal. We deserve each other. No, but the thing at Lawrence, we at AU79, he had said, this business person, you need to connect with this person, guys. He's great. Right. So, okay. Yeah, that sounds good. And he's like, I'll do an email intro. And they did an email intro. The guy emailed Sevs. Sevs never got back to them. And then you and I were at a cafe at AU79 and Lauren said, hey, the guy that I want to intro you to, did you ever get back to his email? Like, no, no, no. He's here right now. He's just over there. And I said no, no, no...

Josh: Well, we were about to sit down and you're like "I'm out of here." Yeah, I said can you make mine takeaway?

Tommy: And so Laurence respectfully waited until I left the café before he did the intro but he was like—

Josh: Well, I was sitting there because I then was doing some work and I was like oh look let's not bother them it's all good. And so it was at the edge for me as well. But then Laurence, the fact that he much earlier.

Tommy: But it's funny that he got it. He got the shtick. He's like, ah, Josh being Josh. See it? Like, because I—

Josh: And then Tommy being Tommy, I then have a person come up to me as I'm mid-working, and then we had a good conversation for 10 minutes. It was really nice.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Like, and so then it's at that point I was in the mode of I kind of just want to do my work right now. So I get that, but that's not always.

Tommy: And so, yeah, I don't know, it's a very fine line because I do enjoy—

Josh: It's always never as bad as you think anxiety is. Like, shit appearing that isn't necessarily what's— what reality is.

Tommy: Yeah. Well, the little bit everybody else asked was when I got into Susie's and tried to do my order, there was someone else that was still had to pay. And so, I said like, so, you think about it, I do the inflection, "Hi!" And then realise that someone still needs to pay that's getting their coffee. So, after saying, "Hi!" I had to then move across out of the way.

Mason: It was, and then the reader was taking a while as well.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a point where like, oh, I don't know if there's a chip on that card. This is to the upper, I'm like, this is going to be an absolute nightmare. But, um, it was fine.

Josh: No, no, it's always fine. You're never going to be hurt. It's always fine. That is the thing. In any situation that you've ever, that we've ever been in, always is fine. Or I think you turn it around to be something funny for yourself. The thing that I don't know how much it actually stops or helps you sort of helps you through these moments.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, I think like with COVID I thought the greetings was going to get easier. And then we saw Conspiracy Jimmy 2 days ago.

Josh: Yeah, that was a big one for you. The greeting thing.

Tommy: But you do the bro handshake and hug during COVID times, and I'm left looking like a fucking idiot with my elbow.

Josh: But no, Jimmy and I are 20 years strong, and so we can—

Mason: he—

Josh: I didn't— I look like I've seen him before, we've done the elbows, and now it's like, it was really nice to hug my best mate. I really enjoyed it.

Tommy: I look like a fucking idiot.

Josh: No, but you're not his best mate. Okay, you're his mate, but he's like, no, I get it. I think it's fine. It'd be like, should I have— sometimes see somebody with their partner, you know them really well, give them a kiss, but the person that you're with doesn't know them that well, so they don't give them a kiss.

Tommy: They just—

Josh: you could have gone handshake, fist bump. But no, I know what you mean. It's, um, yeah, I mean, I did a hand— I did a fist bump this week and you called it out, and then you went in for an elbow, so you were actually closer physically to his face than my hand out meeting his arm out. Which one is it okay? Which one's okay?

Tommy: I think the elbow is better than the fist because I think the fist is problematic because you— Yeah.

Josh: Touch your face. But I mean, if we got called out by producer Jess yesterday for using the amount of hand sanitiser that we do.

Tommy: She thinks we're obsessed.

Josh: Well, call it what you will.

Tommy: I do have a bit of a tick. Like, I do enjoy it.

Josh: A sani tick?

George: Yeah.

Josh: Hand sani.

Tommy: Yeah, there is something a little bit sort of addictive about it.

Josh: Yeah, mine's this one. And then clap them together.

Mason: You do, don't you?

Josh: I love it.

Mason: There's something— the one that you've bought, the hand sanitiser, I reckon it's 10 times better than Dettol.

Josh: Yeah, mate, it's good. Smells like rotten apples, some of them.

Mason: And then this one's actually— it smells great.

Josh: At Bodhi's Daycare, uh, you walk in, hand sanitisation station, and on there is, um, I think there's gloves if you want them. No one wears them. But then there's 2 bottles of hand sanitiser. One has kids, one has adults. I fucking use a kids.

Tommy: Better smelling?

Josh: It's the one we've got. The other one is like almost liquid. It looks like vodka in a bottle, like, and it stinks. It's like, it's like, like legit watery. And the other one is nice.

Tommy: You want a thickness, I think, too. Yeah, you want it.

Mason: Yeah, good viscosity.

Josh: Great viscosity. Great viscosity, 99% killer.

Mason: That's a great word, never heard it before.

George: Viscosity, is it about Sano?

Josh: Yeah, so no, it's about— so you could have a nice moisturiser that has a good viscosity.

Mason: Yeah, it's, it's all about like the, the thickness of the liquid. So like, I can't remember which way it is, whether it's high or low, but lava, you know, because it's quite thick, it's got some viscosity. A high— it's got— why do you say high? It's got a high viscosity.

Josh: Lava does.

Mason: Yeah, yeah. And so like water, water's got a low viscosity.

Josh: You don't want to touch lava though.

Mason: No, true. But our one, our hand sanitizer, interestingly, when it comes out, high viscosity.

George: Yeah.

Mason: Once you've rubbed it in, low.

Tommy: Interesting. It's ice cream.

Josh: Have you eaten the whole fucking tub?

Tommy: No, I've actually got like 90% is left.

Josh: Pass it over.

George: How was the probiotic drink?

Tommy: Don't pass that over to me, I don't want the probiotic.

Mason: Hang on, it's just yogurt.

Josh: Oh yeah, it's got vanilla bean little bits in it.

Tommy: But yeah, the thing with a lot of these sort of, um, diet products, you need to eat them sooner rather than later because they do go disgusting. I remember Bri and I doing a road trip in Tassie and buying like a healthy caramel slice, you know, just like a raw ingredients and the sun was hitting the slice and within 15 minutes it was liquid in the bottle holder, cup holder.

Josh: You like a good piece of slice that could last 3 weeks in the car.

Tommy: How good is caramel slice?

Josh: What? Which kind? One that can last a long time?

Tommy: I actually like raw. Like, I can get around those, like the balls and stuff. We don't have a food processor at home.

Josh: I like to make the balls.

Tommy: What did you have? Food what? We don't have a food processor at home. There you go.

Josh: Hey, we missed something at the start of the show, which I don't think I would have forgot if I was still the guy in charge.

Tommy: I know.

Mason: I wish you were on you for that, reaction. That was visceral.

Tommy: I'm sorry. Okay, no, no, no, this has got to be a big, big, big, big— this is the final one.

Mason: You're gonna—

Tommy: can we get this as a snippet?

Mason: Yeah, this is a snippet.

Josh: That wasn't part of the deal, but that's a makeup.

Tommy: Attention everyone, attention everyone, what a week it has been in 2GB land with Ben Bloody Buddy Fordham having his own breakfast show from 5:30 in the morning. He's done it and he'll do it again next week and potentially for a very long time. It's Ben Fordham on 2GB, Wake Up with Ben. Thank you for your support this week, Ben. And now I will do one more as a reset from yesterday.

Josh: Oh, come on. At the end of this—

Tommy: hey everyone, a big thank you to Ben Fordham. 5:30 AM, it's Ben Fordham in the Morning 2GB. You can stream it using Google Home, just say those words, hey Google, or you can listen in the car too. What a great way to start the morning with your brekkie. Have a slice of peanut butter or veggie, however you have it, and a nice hot brew and enjoy Ben Fordham covering the topics of the day. It's Ben Fordham, 2GB.

Josh: He's the— you're done. Thank you. Expect a call though from Ben Fordham.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: When I saw—

Tommy: when I think—

Josh: yeah, it's not what we think, guys. It's what Ben thinks.

Tommy: And I turned that around.

Mason: I think he delivered.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah.

Mason: Yeah.

George: It was really good.

Mason: I reckon you delivered. Well, I mean, we'll hear from Ben, I guess.

Josh: I mean, it's When you see Ben Fordham's name flash on your phone, you know it's—

Tommy: it could be something.

Josh: He's got an offer, he's got a complaint. Uh, yeah, what else?

Tommy: I think that was good.

Josh: Do you?

Tommy: No, no, I'm very happy.

Mason: Talking about the ice cream or the—

Josh: No, it's all good.

Tommy: I feel a bit burpy.

Josh: Yeah, that ice cream was good. Uh, any admin before we head off, Sev's?

Mason: Yeah, I mean, we got a few more reviews.

Tommy: Uh, are you, um, are you tired?

Mason: Uh, yeah, a little bit.

Tommy: Your eyes twitching.

Mason: Really?

Tommy: Which one? Both.

Josh: Okay. Have you been staying up late?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: How late?

Mason: Uh, not too late, like midnight.

Josh: But that sort of used to be a 9:30 PM bedtime.

Mason: Yeah, baby's a 9:30 to 10 PM bedtime.

Tommy: So, uh, your girlfriend Grace uses the phrase or the word "parmi" to describe a chicken parmigiana.

Mason: Oh yeah, no, that's wrong.

Tommy: Have you brought it up with her outside of Discord?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, we've had conversations about it.

Josh: They were up till 12 last night debating.

Mason: Yeah, that's what it was.

Tommy: Geez, it gets real hot and heavy. That's banter.

George: That's banter.

Josh: And so food chat, people are discussing whether it's a parmi or a parma. It's a parma. This is one of the most classic radio— I mean, you know where you get the real figures from? You'd take every radio station that has done the parmi vs palmer debate, find out the answer because they do the, you know, the cast out of the net to find out what people think and then find out like out of 20 stations what it is. And there's your real answer.

Tommy: There's a place on Little Bourke Street or Bourke Street, Little Bourke, Mrs. Palmer's.

Josh: Mrs. Palmer's.

Mason: I mean, that solidifies it, doesn't it?

Tommy: If you're going to register a business.

Mason: Yeah. You'd want to go to that. There's also a Palmers of Melbourne, the Instagram account.

Josh: Palmers of Melbourne. It's definitely, I mean, the people, the two people that sort of The two offenders were Queensland and WA.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: So, I mean, that could be just why it's a palmy.

Tommy: It's baby talk, though, isn't it? That's my criticism. It's, as I said, it's like dippy egg, asking for dippy eggs and soldiers.

Josh: Sippy cups.

Mason: Sippy cups.

Tommy: What others? What's a phrase that can be said that sort of puts you in baby category?

Josh: Oh, I don't know. Sebs, have you got one?

Tommy: I mean, how do we feel about calling— I mean, do you call your mum "mummy bear," George?

Mason: Mummy bear is— Yeah, mummy bear.

Tommy: You say mummy?

George: Mummy. Yeah.

Josh: As a daddy, daddy too, but as a daddy—

George: Grow up.

Josh: Mummy is—

George: I also say hot choccy.

Tommy: Hot choccy.

Josh: Yeah, that's a lovely one.

Tommy: Do you say doggo as well?

Mason: Oh, doggo.

Josh: I don't even know. No, but as a daddy and mummy, like hearing Bodhi say mummy and just, it's so endearing, makes my heart melt thinking about him calling me daddy. I don't know, there's just something baby-like about it. So, yeah.

Tommy: What about 26?

Josh: Absolute baby. But never should stop showing your mother love.

Tommy: So, how often are you saying?

George: If I'm on the phone, I'll just say mum. But sometimes I text her saying, thanks, mummy.

Tommy: Do you think, so I say, I call my mum by her full name, Lynne Jansen. Should I?

Josh: You cut her off at 6, didn't you?

Tommy: Yeah. Do you think I should bring back mum, or should I make mummy a thing?

Mason: No, look, I think you're 20 years too late for mummy.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: And you say you're a mummy's boy, but are you?

Mason: No, I say mum. No, I say mum.

Tommy: Yeah.

George: Went in.

Josh: Mama. I like mama. Mama could be the closest.

Tommy: Mama's good. Well, you say darling, but you were doing it to be facetious and now it's just—

Josh: Not facetious. No, I loved, I just loved my mum. She said, hello darling. She loves it. And so, I like saying that, but then I like calling people darlings. And then even Scooter Derek says it too. He's like, it's, I think it's nice. It's like, it is, it's just being a bit funny.

Tommy: What about darl?

Josh: No, because then I have more of a problem with darl. Like, if you're using that seriously. Hi, darl.

Tommy: When I was a kid, I remember babe was like a bit dirty calling someone babe.

George: Hey, babe.

Tommy: But I would say, hey, darl.

Josh: You would? Yeah.

Tommy: It would—

Josh: you could pull it off as a kid, as in a young Josh Jansen saying it. You saying babe now?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Yucky.

Mason: Yucky.

George: You and Breezer are very formal on the phone. I've noticed.

Josh: What do you mean, to each other?

George: Yeah, it's a bit of, hello, hey Breeza, how you going? Yeah, good, thank you. How are you today?

Josh: Yeah, that's right. What's been the best part of your day?

Mason: Highlight of the day.

Tommy: How are you with— hello, yeah, how are you with Han?

George: Ah, hey love, what's going on?

Tommy: Hey love.

George: Hey love.

Tommy: That's cute.

George: How are you?

Tommy: I always say I love you to Breeza.

George: How are you going?

Tommy: I always said love you.

George: Yeah. Oh, mate, nothing against it.

Tommy: It's beautiful. All right, he thinks I'm too formal.

Josh: No, I get what he's meaning. It's— there is— I reckon we could write a script and it would be what you'd reel off at the first 10 seconds of your call with Bree every single day.

Tommy: Every single call. I'd start the call with, hey, Breezer. Hey, Breezer.

Mason: We've done this. Didn't we do this on— we called Bree.

Josh: I don't know, maybe, mate. You're the producer of the show. You should remember.

Mason: I think— I think— no, we did a switch. We did a switcheroo.

Josh: And then Bree would say, hello. And Josh is like, hey, Breezer, how are you? Good. You did it.

Tommy: You did it.

Josh: Yeah, nothing wrong with it.

Tommy: I also go to what's news.

Josh: What's news?

Tommy: The break. Yeah, especially like Sev's. Like if I FaceTime Sev.

Mason: What's been happening?

Tommy: Yeah, what's going on? And then normally I don't like his first response.

Mason: You really get it out of me. Like it's, it's not annoying, but it's—

Tommy: Well, I just say what's— It's annoying. No, I just say what's news and he says Oh, nothing much.

George: That's what it's like.

Tommy: But the thing is, it's like if we're playing improv, he's the worst performer ever because where do I go from? So I end up going—

Josh: Steph didn't know he was playing improv every time he called.

Tommy: It's just like, where does it go if it's, what's news? Oh, nothing.

Mason: Well, the thing is, you asked me this 2 hours after you've already asked me this.

Tommy: It's a tick.

Mason: We're in the office. It's like anything else when you're walking out the office, it's like, ah, I'll tell you or whatever. And then 2 hours later He was like, oh, so what's happening? What's new? I was like, mate, I've literally just taken the bus home and that's it. His question was, mate, how was the bus ride yesterday? Yeah, it was all right.

Tommy: What's Grace up to? Yeah, it's like he's gotten absolutely nothing. How's the— literally, what's the other question I ask? How's the family?

Mason: How's the family? Oh yeah, no, you do that a lot. Yeah, it's not about me going.

Tommy: How's her iPad?

Mason: Yeah, Apple.

Josh: Why do you still call him?

Tommy: I don't know. Well, I think that like half the time, like last night when I called you, was it because I was calling you back and you said— was that the night before? I think I was calling you back and he was like, ah, sorry, I didn't mean to call you.

Mason: I was because it was in my— I just went to my recent and I accidentally hit Josh instead of Grace.

Josh: And so easy mistake. Anyway, yeah, anyway, a bit of admin before we go. You had a few reviews.

Mason: Yeah, we've, we've got a review from Sarah from Shine Hairdressing. Uh, keep it up. Josh and Tommy have not only built an amazing daily podcast, they've also built a really beautiful community of Gronks to go with it. Love listening to and watching your podcast grow. Looking forward to what's to come for you legends. Keep up the great work. Also got another one from Caitlin Balance.

Tommy: You okay?

Mason: Yeah, just clearing my— it's— I reckon it's, it's actually this.

Tommy: What do you mean?

Josh: It's the viscosity of these, uh, Clif Bar has really just solidified.

Tommy: How do you think I'm feeling with, um fake ice cream. Yeah, not good, not good.

Mason: Uh, balanced, humorous, and informative. These guys are fantastic. I love the balance of humour and the casual chit-chat/banter and deep, possibly controversial topics that are approached with an analytical and mature view. Very thoughtful, very considered, and very thought-provoking every time. 5 stars. Thanks, Caitlin.

Josh: Thank you, Caitlin. Sarah, well, it's a long weekend, guys. Enjoy it.

Tommy: Yeah, we've got shows coming out Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

Josh: We'll be here even when the Queen is celebrating.

Tommy: Okay, do you get it? Because it's Queen's birthday.

Mason: Oh, I'm sure Gemma's celebrating as well.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, we don't stop the party. Yeah, just for the Queen.

Tommy: I wonder what the Queen's up to.

Josh: It's not her birthday. She was— oh my God, she was riding a horse this week.

Mason: Really?

Josh: 96-year-old woman on a horse.

Tommy: Royal. What else?

Josh: What an animal. I appreciate it. Like, if I can be 96 and be able to ride a horse—

Mason: Oh my God, she is phenomenal.

Tommy: Shit, you on her Instagram?

Josh: I don't actually—

Mason: The royal family? Yeah.

Josh: If there was a conspiracy theory about the Queen has some kind of thing that it's not anti-aging, but it just means that she won't die, like she is just like good inside, I would believe it. Like, she's found something to keep it going.

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Because you see a 96-year-old, however old she is, riding a horse, got a pretty good life.

Tommy: That would help, you know.

Josh: A lot of people going to coffee shops.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I wonder what is she stressing about though, really?

Josh: So she'd be stressing about Boris. She'd be stressing about the allegations of her son being a pedophile. That's what she's fucking stressing about.

George: Oh, is that who?

Tommy: Prince Andrew is.

Josh: Yeah, it's her son.

Tommy: Oh, that's unfortunate. Amongst—

Josh: I mean, the whole—

Mason: there's also the Prince Harry stuff.

Josh: And mate, there's a lot for that grandmother to be stressed about.

Mason: Stress. Yeah, I wonder how she's still alive, to be honest.

Tommy: But I tell you what, there's a lot of stress.

Josh: I tell you what, she handles it like an absolute champ.

Tommy: The, the— it's actually a— what's it called? Like, uh, equestrian therapy.

Josh: Oh yeah, equine therapy. Yeah, that's how she's—

Tommy: yeah, maybe it is. She's like, I would blow up if I wasn't on this fucking horse.

Josh: She did a, this year she did an address to the nation, address to the world really, which was, and she did the same because of coronavirus, and she did it many, many years ago when she was a young, young, young woman at the helm. And it was just beautiful to see just this, like, I looked at the old footage and then I looked at the new footage. I was like, wow, what a, what a woman. What a woman.

Tommy: You're a royalist. You like the whole royal thing?

Josh: I get into it. I would love a royalist on the— if anyone knows someone who understands the monarchy, the, you know, the royal family, I would love it because there is— when it gets down to the, like, the Dukes of Edinburgh, the people who own, like, they get all the taxes from the land. So, there's like in London, there's a, like where Soho is, it got gifted to, it got passed on, whatever that shire is called or whatever it's called, that got given to this young guy who's now just this billionaire who gets all of the tax. So, the land tax that the rich people pay goes to him. And so, this is like—

Tommy: Sounds pretty outrageous.

Josh: This is what like, What's Harry? Where's his— Where does he own? Where does he own?

Tommy: He's got like a place in LA. I'm serious, man.

Mason: He's a Prince of— Yeah.

Josh: So, they all get given their like, what is it?

Mason: You're thinking Prince Harry, is that what you said?

George: Prince Harry.

Josh: Prince of— Yeah. So, yeah. Prince of Wales. So, you get—

Mason: He's a Duke of Sussex.

Josh: Duke of Sussex. And so, the Dukes get— So, he would be getting all the land tax from the Sussex residents.

Mason: Not anymore.

Josh: Maybe not. Yeah, I think he gave it up, but it just, it goes deep. And like, why they're even making money. Like, this is a, like, this is 1,000 years ago. This, all this shit happened. Like, are they like the government? No, they're not. They're a different thing. It's like, it goes real deep, dude.

Tommy: Uh, would you go if we were doing another referendum? Republic? Like, what is it? Like, uh, going republic? Is that what it's called?

Josh: Oh, leave, like Brexit?

Tommy: No, no, no, no. Like, leave the Commonwealth.

Josh: Is it a referendum?

Tommy: No.

Josh: Referendum. I don't see any reason to leave the Commonwealth. I don't know enough, but do we contribute money towards them?

Tommy: Yeah, I'm sure we do. I like them being indie. Yeah, if we're, um, if the royal, you know, if the royal family is, um, Podcast One, I'd prefer just to, you know, just go into that. Yeah, yeah, because you just, you know, you're making the money but they're not doing much for you.

Josh: But you can use the studio where Hank should have you record.

Tommy: I think I got I got COVID off Hamish from one of the mics. Good one, guys. PodcastOne sold for, I think it was $18 million in the US.

Josh: Just recently?

Tommy: Yeah, this is only a month and a half ago.

Josh: Sad when Joe Rogan sells his back catalogue for $150 mil.

Tommy: Yeah, well, it'll be interesting to see what happens with— because PodcastOne Australia is just a licencing deal with SEA. And so I do wonder, I did notice that on one of SEA's recent podcasts they have the SEA logo on it as well as the PodcastOne logo. So whether that's, that's a transition play or it's a new podcast. But the other thing I thought is it's on advertising and stuff, so maybe they're doing it because it's a bit of a branded content thing that they're sending to clients as well.

George: Love it.

Josh: But anyway, love the investigation. I want a full-blown investigation.

Tommy: I wonder how PodcastRanker is going. I don't know.

Josh: I'm going to go to your website.

Tommy: Thank you. It's yours too.

Josh: Yeah, true, true.

Tommy: It's Daily Talk Show. See you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

Josh: See you guys.