#739 – Wills, Stacks & Consumption/
- May 24, 2020
We chat about doing 100 episodes remotely, Elon Musk’s old phone number, product stacks, debt and business models, content consumption and negativity.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– 100 episodes since being remote
– Executor of wills
– Elon Musk’s old phone
– Product stacks
– Debt and business models
– Content consumption
– Emails and negativity
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 739 Happy Sunday. gronk So what's happening?
What's going on?
It's been a while since we've said that we can banter. We can banter.
Yeah. What does that mean? Someone said someone said in the last story Yeah, tweaking bands
to gronk so what do you got that
the mug I've got is I don't know. I think Amy made this something. It's probably a present I should remember. But it's just not nice photos of us. I mean, I from all different times pre baby. We look very happy. I haven't looked at these in a while. There was some baby now step. Oh, wow. Anyway, pretty taut. What's happening?
Yeah, what's right quickly just been quick update for me. Today is the hundredth episode. That's remote.
Oh, really? flat. That is? Yeah. That's it.
So Isn't that nice?
So I did a double remote because I did a show remote before the rest of us all joined as a bit of a test case was, is that including that one or is that when we're all we're now?
fully remote? So I'm going from the it was you three? It was Episode 640. That was the first one. And then I was like, and then I came back to this Wayne Peters argument. did the math. It's actually 647 39 Yes. 100. Okay.
Yeah, that's an exciting milestone.
Yeah, it is good. And I you've mentioned this earlier in the week, you're trying to figure it out. It's taking you about a week to do the math. And I say that that's been 100 days. No, we've done we did the two episodes a day. So it hasn't been 100 days. How many? How many days is it been like three months or something? 1212 weeks or something?
If we start Doing the Friday night drinks or whatever? What is must be 12 weeks. I'd say that'd be my guess what date was? Yeah,
645 at a time. I mean, what I was thinking like, it had it has felt quite slow. Like if you're looking at it in terms of the government subsidy stuff like that job caper that hasn't even been going for two months yet. Yeah. And so that, like a part of that cycle is another four months of support, government support for businesses. And when you think about it, I feel like it's been a long time. Like it's felt much longer than just two months of job caper. It fucks with
timing, it's like going on a trip or something.
So yeah, days, 60 days,
68 days, we've been almost 10 weeks. Yeah,
you were talking about a life hack around adding to favourites on the iPhone, rather than just adding the the call function.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I'm He said to me, what was your life hack? Because I was I said to says, I've got a life hack for you. And oh, okay, what's your club called? Life Hack? Life Hack up? Yep. It's been so long, sorry. And then me got home said, what were you gonna say? Because we we received the call from your mom Josh. And the hack that I had because Sam's was just mentioning that he didn't have anyone in his favourites and he only facetimes Christ. And so that life hack was which I didn't even know until I jumped in and tried to see what Sam's was talking about. You can set it to FaceTime someone as a favourite. So if you just want it to ever or even a text message, said it's just like jumping the fibres, boom, jumps into text, or you can just ask Siri.
So it is yeah, you know,
I'm gonna call yesterday and once I heard from and she was asked if she would be the executor of a will. And now I've never received that kind of a phone call and You know, and it's probably something I haven't even thought about. Has anyone here got a will? How do you guys
know? No, I don't think so. Yeah, we say my mom.
I think she sent it to me. But
I was always thinking about it like, I mean as you it is a thought, right. Like, that's what Amy said to said to the woman she said, you know, of course I will be. It's, it's hard for me to think about this though. And I sort of just was eavesdropping and listening, just like and both of the conversation was, ya know, me too. And so, but when does it get to a point where you kind of should bite the bullet and you should actually do these things like in barefoot investors book, he talks about having on a piece of paper, something for your partner. I mean, barefoot investor, he's old school. He's just keeping it in his sock drawer. It's all these passwords, but it's about Do you remember that part of the book where it says like it's almost like to simplify the admin for the person I mean now it's just like your LastPass password that you could then have someone be able to access all this stuff. I mean it's it seems pretty dark and it's probably not where people want to think about and talk about but I was thinking we should maybe all get our wheels in order.
What happens to what happens to like things like phone numbers and stuff like that? Do you think he just retired or do they take it on and have to write back like, if you were to die? Does someone look after the messages for the for the first few months? Like Watson
not be so annoying? Just that's one thing.
I mean, this is what you can leave in your will. Josh, if you want. Bree, I need you to take care of the WhatsApp. It's very important to me. The discord child has got that don't worry about that child
fees in the world.
Chelsea, the executor of your will.
Did you hear about the 25 year old? In the US, she works at Sephora. She was getting a bunch of random text messages and calls like heaps of them over the last couple of years once when she got a new number, and she went to her mom and said, Hey, Mom, I keep getting all of these people thinking that my number is a guy named Ilan musk. And so it turns out that she has Elon Musk's old phone number getting all of these messages around like ah, like from Disney executives being like ah, like mask the new the auto pilots ridiculous I'm loving this getting like rockets all this like random shit. And she just like text them back and says hi, now this isn't. This is an alien and then people find her about it and say
because he's so like it. righteous you know it definitely based on the kid dude. Now this is not a lot got the wrong number.
I also learned that the end of the it was an NPR piece and at the end they said that she was gonna keep the number because she's an aspiring actress.
Yeah, it's a funny way Spielberg
calls through a mask. No, no, no. That's the way it used to be seen in the car, a car park. A lot in LA. That is that is interesting. I mean, Joe Rogan was talking about how he changes his phone number every couple of months now and Ilan from the same. I think even he was saying that they changed their number a bunch. Yeah,
to me seems very impractical. We I heard the Kardashians every week, like how do you? How do you manage that? Like, how do you if I was to change my number every week? How does everyone get my new number?
I think they're that important as in. They're not that important, but they've got so much attention to them that if people want them Number that we'll get it and that's what Joe said he's like, I changed my number and I'm getting fucking text messages from people still like I'm sorry I'm not trying to the self importance is quite high but the as in like, people want to speak to them so people will work it out you and I change our number will get lost. Don't want to save a call for a year if I just got some Vodafone sim no one's calling it
I put my mother on the show and I didn't get a single call.
Yeah surprise. Oh, she hasn't called
on the on the number thing though. The way that like obviously they just recycle numbers.
And I just in time,
yeah, like I don't know how long it is. But I facetimed Bree This is going back a couple of years years ago facetimed her she was meant to be at work. FaceTime answers, and it's a guy in a truck. I'm like, What? What the fuck is this? There's a guy in a truck that's just like it's very disorientating. It's like okay, who's got Brees phone? Where is Bray? What's happening? And and what it turned out to be was in Brees contacts section. I had put her us number when we were travelling. And so because we left the US that number then goes back in the pool. Someone else has then picked up that number. And when I facetimed it's pinging all of the numbers that are there. And so I i FaceTime this random dude
who's answering a random number anyway on
it's pretty useless.
Yeah, I mean, George called me before the show, and I still haven't added his because he's got two Sims and I haven't added a second sim to my phone. And every time he's like, Oh, hell, I missed a lot of speak. I was like, Ah, you say that?
Yeah. This is
this is what you said the last time Yeah,
D guy tonight I mean, the guy doesn't answer the phone match doesn't say hello Tommy speaking but a lot of the time now I just get junk junk calls. I when I was in the states I got text messages to the phone I think it was probably there's probably a high volume of turnover in the states where they're just sending numbers back out what I do love about in America where you can I mean you can see it here but I don't you know when you can see exactly the location that the SIM card was purchased in so like New York State will be calling through or Texas it's this weird thing and one who's calling me from you know, Alabama
Yeah, the I guess we don't really have that in Australia. We
it's just I've seen that come from my camera hanging if I jump in this Yeah, I have seen a bit so Melbourne. Yeah, you say maybe it's not maybe it's not mobile number base. Maybe it's like a landline or Let's see we've got our 40422 is coming from Australia. Good one. Yeah, I'm already here.
It has to be landline. Surely because I don't think he could.
Because it's all gone.
area codes for mobile numbers.
So yeah, country code.
You're totally right. That's what it is Josh, because they have airy codes, those
three digits or whatever at the start. Yeah. I'm making the eggplant tonight. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing a live stream of extracting the bitter water using salt.
Well, maybe we could do a whole cook along because I was talking to grace yesterday and she said that she's thinking about doing the eggplant today as well.
Really? All right.
Yeah, we could maybe
should we do a discord? Let's do a B is a good idea. Yeah. Get up to 25 people in there. Yeah.
Because I do the the lamb as well and do the pressure cooker and have the egg plant going. See how that goes.
I'm sorry, I'm just imagining I should go into Berg's fans landing on the daily talk shows live stream of eggplant and cutting it and
what's going on here? What do you think? Cuz so I kept talking I kept chatting on I wasn't gonna bring it up the Asha stuff do you have you've mentioned a couple of times any final words? On
Asha Ginsberg? I texted you last night and I said I actually I actually hadn't watched the whole video and I turned it off because I was like, I get the joke when I got tagged in it. And I didn't laugh so I just moved on. And then I watched the whole thing because I saw someone say like the the language at the end wasn't wasn't needed or something. And I did watch it roll through and there's the just the heartbeat at the end where they're saying it and they go pretty hard on what they say.
Yeah, so shut the fuck up or something time I shut the fuck yeah, shut the fuck up.
This is even less funny than it being less funny. Not even funny. I don't know what you end up getting there. But I had a great time on the couch last night, reading the Twitter comments. And I know that people just people say it's, you know, the asset of the world. It's, you know, the rubbish bin of the world and whatever, Twitter, but when there's so many people saying the same thing, you can't disregard that. That the potential of it, but of that being a reality for a heap of people because the proof is there. Yeah. You know, it's like, people didn't like it. And people were very funny. In
Twitter comments will be real so Gee, boy, yeah, yeah. J but that was a
that was a funny, I did go through the Twitter comments that Yeah, I agree with you. It's like, everyone is saying the same thing. So you can't be blaming it on the platform, the feedback.
Also, it feels like the sensitivity I have is like are people think that I'm just like someone who can't take a joke, or that it just seems like because I know that there would be heaps of time. Where there are people who do funny posts, and they get that the type of response that I left, but I just feel like it deserves at least. Oh yeah, I understand why people could potentially think it's a bit stinky. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you're spot on. You're spot on. Anything sort of anything evolved from it like we can touch on it wasn't any
nothing nothing nothing crazy i was i was commenting commenting back Bran I had aperol spritz last night. And so I was wary that I didn't want to get messy with my commenting. So I sort of I did one on one, the first app roll and then I sort of put it all away. And because I know that obviously, as you drink, your ability to make decisions in an effective way goes down,
guys out the window. Now I get it. Good to add roles and look at look
The gronk game stuff.
Where if we landed without the subs?
I mean, I guess well, so what I was thinking was, could we do it? As we're doing it as a day thing, like there's gonna be this big gronk de where we hit as many activities, or is it going to be an ongoing weekly thing where we do, you know, one a week on a Friday? And then it just goes for? I don't know, like six weeks or something like that.
Yeah, but I think you could do a you could do it. Either way. You could do it a sprint where we say do over a week, one every day or you could do one a week leading up to something Yeah.
What Yeah, well, cuz I mean, just some of the things that's like the go karting or the golf like it's a bit like, you get to travel. So I think all doing it in one day, or even if Just one every day for a whole week might be taking a little bit of time out. Yeah.
Ross was asking about saying all the 25 limit on discord, use Microsoft Teams. It's interesting. I wonder what is the push the push back on Microsoft Teams from from my end. Part of it is it's like what is Microsoft bought Microsoft bought Skype. Absolutely fucked Skype. They bought Yammer did they buy Yammer Yammer as a piece of shit. So Yammer was like a social networking tool for for corporates. I just I feel like it's a big commitment to go eat like because Microsoft Teams is trying to be everything. It's like, where Google Drive where we're video court like we can make your coffee all this sort of thing I sort of, I don't know if I want that. I don't want it to do everything. Georgie Boy, you use Microsoft Teams for your other job. Do you use it? The hype the rust is implying.
I mean, I don't like it, but I just don't like Yeah, I just don't really like Microsoft that. I don't know what it like it's just seems a bit clunky to be a bit ugly. Mm hmm. Like, slack like slack is like nice and fun to type on teams like do
you know do you know that one of the real barriers is probably Apple because in my gronk mind that has no real clue. I'm thinking Microsoft teens How could an Apple Computer like you know Microsoft was its own computer as well. Like they had they sell computers right?
Yeah, well I think yeah, I think that the the, the the point around well, slack discord, they're all doing the same thing I think they do. I think that we're realising it's like our discord is really good. From a community perspective. You could see a use case for it being within the office environment, but at the same time, it's also So nice to have separation like if today we said, okay, we're going to pick one thing this is what Facebook tried to do Facebook was like okay, let some they release What is it called says Facebook work place isn't or what's the which one you're talking about the Facebook Messenger for enterprise
yeah I think it might be fair to say workplace they've also released messenger rooms I think which was like a zoom edited to like zoom Yeah.
But so the Facebook were like okay we're going to compete with slack we're going to do this enterprise thing. So you can have messenger you know, you've got your Facebook Messenger where you're talking to your mate, but then you have this Facebook, work workplace where you can be messaging the CEO of the company that you're working with not Zuckerberg. Do we don't really think would we actually want that would wave one To have the same tool for what we're speaking to our mate versus what we're speaking to our workmates.
Now, I wouldn't like them separate. Yeah, I like bait i like i like Discord. And I and we've tried a bunch of shit and it definitely feels like it is a winner. And it is different. If you know the little logo, the little icon looks like somebody's been to bum holes but it's
just cool that that's not always Discord.
Yeah, that's Rocco would you say saves maybe this says something? I
don't know. I just I just said so. I just thought it was like a sort of fun little robot thing. Yeah, but if Yeah, robot five. I think
I started pig nose. Yes.
It'd be like a, like
a phantom four controller. It looks like a phantom four controller drone controller.
brand. brand is interesting though. Like So Casey was saying that the the Facebook thing, it's a different thing. It's a completely different profile, but doesn't just show you how, from a brand perspective, we associate certain things like it how that's what I wonder with tick looks
like Bumble. Bumble. Like why like the Bumble BFF and then bumble bees. I feel like that's very hard to separate from Bumble dating.
Yeah like it feels like I'm into like opposite ends of the spectrum right
in the back of your mind you're thinking you could get a road like that is going on when you're in that platform doing business. Facebook a bit different what we saying about Tick Tock JJ though,
well, I just feel like the like people talk about Tick Tock is going to be the next Instagram. But I just wonder how much it has to change in regards to the type of content before it becomes a mainstream Like a truly mainstream thing.
Yeah, I mean, is Snapchat still a thing?
Oh, yeah, they Yeah.
So that'd be that sort of took on a life of its own and it was just became a messaging app, essentially. Like with your mates bit closed off. So I mean, they're still they're still around today
if you had to if you had to really be specific, and dial I'll start with you, sir. Because I feel like you would have an opinion if you had to create like a bit of a it's called a stack. And the engineers call us calm. Yeah. So yeah. What is your stacks it's um, it's developed by the company Product Hunt, which is essentially like a collection of products and you people will make submissions and stuff. But anyway, you you create your own stack by adding all the different software you use into like a little. They've got a website and so you have your own stack that you can share with people.
And so like stack like my old business, full stack films, the reason why I called it that was because in I like technology, they talk about like a full stack developer, a full stack engineer. And that's someone who knows all the different areas. So they know different languages, they, they know, different hardware software. So they can sort of use all of those different things together to create sort of a holistic solution. So for me, it's like full stack. It's like I look after the, you know, the end to end type of thing, but with it from the context of a stack. Yeah, it's a it's a group of tools that you're going to use. So serves if you were to pick a group of tools. If you were to get rid of everything and said, Okay, these are the things that I'm going to use this for is this orientated or, I think go personal. Like if you were to set up your personal stack, what does it look like? Very,
very, can iMessage iMessage slash FaceTime and they separated over Can we merge those?
When I think that mystery separate products so FaceTime is for video. If you had a video tool FaceTime would be in.
Yep. Yep. FaceTime and a messaging tool would be iMessage
risky for Android friends, cuz you're not you're not gonna get that with Android friends but move on.
Yeah, that's okay. Then I would have notion
so sorry about that. Georgie voice tests just. Yeah, so, so no
notion for note taking.
I mean, Spotify.
Who's using Apple Music nowadays?
Who like? Definitely, oh, you're gonna have people that bought a Telstra phone and they gave it to them for free and then they kept charging.
Yeah. Yeah, google maps google photos.
Do you want instal the Apple Maps app.
Yep, yeah, Apple Maps gone. I mean, you've got like the Instagram and Facebook. Getting into Twitter a little bit, mainly because it Kevin Rose, just following that sort of stuff.
What about us? How do you get you like it from a news perspective? I feel sorry. This is a problem at the moment. The, the the news side of things, I'm just going to use comm w which I feel like is not good for me. Like I feel like I need to find a better a better news source.
I just, I just stick to ABC and the verge, okay. They're my two news go twos. I just feel like it's, you know, they're decent. But anyway, so then there's like, the go to like meditation
just quickly on the news thing. What is the equivalent of like in Saigon, New York Times is your cat gonna be okay there Georgia boy. Georgia boys cat is currently right next to a plant that could be knocked out The plan yeah it would go is should we just allow lives? Is it on? No.
be fine. Can we find that plan?
So yeah, what's the equivalent of new york times do you think from an Australian context?
Like the age or something like that?
What has to be New York Times was a paper wasn't it? Isn't it it's a paper yes went digital so what is as you can already live in New York I don't know well yet now it's such a different base the American news
like that then you have all the nerd stuff I don't understand at times the political side of it like I don't understand all the political stuff and then connecting it up like I know the obvious ones of like, okay, Fox News is a Murdoch style thing. fact that cats making me What's your cat's name again, Spencer.
Spencer would be good if it's just
I mean, we knowing for George but it'll be good for the content. Okay, cool. I'm just thinking what I base that I'm just trying to relate it to the paper, Harold. So if anything goes into the I think the New York Times is more of the age online.
Yeah. So maybe I should start like because I've been thinking about from a show perspective. I remember we spoke early on about not doing topical stuff because you know we want to it to be a bit more evergreen by feeling because we produce so much content there could be something fun in pulling some news stories but finding ones that are outside of the sort of the you know, your news.com Today you but like going and finding shit that's even beyond Reddit.
Where do you go then also just
just gonna go around and how Gorka got done when they did the whole sex tape.
But I mean, just looking at the age on on the age calm today, you It's I think it seems less stinky than news.com delay news.com delay you just seems like it's you know, playing to the young generation It almost looks like a fun fade
slightly less yellow. Yeah.
Yeah the news that I use stuff there's a lot of like, I always feel like I'm reading articles about like a lot of stuff on paedophiles and and teaches like, if you notice, like a lot of stories around like teachers having sex with their students, like there's a certain like, use com de au vibe that I'm just like, how often is this happening to be on the front page of the news? You look and then they're like they coming from new york post or they're coming from other places. Anyway.
It's just a recycles top head top story on the ages, pub meals, weekends away dinner parties, what Victorians are allowed to do from June one And then top story on news Comdata you caught in the act photos expose shocking Coronavirus deception.
It's a bit full on. TJ on the stack stuff probably interests you less, but anything that stands out in regards to if you're designing your shoes.
Wow, there's just so much of the Sam Harris meditation app. What else do I use the podcast out? I'm very I'm a basic bitch spark is probably one by
email us. Yeah.
Which yeah and it's free I mean I've got so much shit on my phone this isn't it. I mean all this is doing for me is pointing out how much bullcrap I've got. Hmm. I mean, it's Instagram, YouTube, Facebook. I don't even get I just get on Twitter to see I should Ginsburg's troll about it.
What about you? Yeah, because you've got I mean, half your apps aren't even downloaded. So which ones
My basic pitch to you I just use yep iMessage FaceTime notes these notes a lot and the rest is pretty much an installed
you're an Apple Mail boy honey
now I have Apple Mail on my computer but I use Gmail app on my phone
just not melanoma when you send out you sent out a mass email to every person you've ever known for you your fat cat job they've since canned that function they've turned it off on a product level like Mike Who was it?
What was it yeah for me what was it save save sent it to me? I think it was um Well
yeah, so outlook have turned off the ability to be able to even respond one email to every single person that you've ever read. Because it because Georgie boy
There's no use case for that. Anyway. So
what? Yeah, so silly.
So Spark, so people playing at home is an email client for iOS,
and Android. And it's great because it has some collaboration functions, so we can share emails with each other. We can then do instant message underneath the emails. It has a snooze function, so you can snooze something for tomorrow or whenever you want. The calendar I've just started using the calendar again, and it's really great because it picks up you know, natural language, language self that says, hey, do you want to do the meeting Monday at 4pm you can then click like town Monday 4pm and it's already in the calendar and then you can send it and it automatically adds the people who are in the email as an invite which is cool. It also has TJ, this is another cool function I found. You can incorporate zoom with it as well. So you can do it so that when you create a calendar invite, you can turn on the zoom functionality and get a call ID and stuff without going into all three,
I'd have to say it is it is the one app that I've completely embraced, like everything else has just been like dabbling notion or liking. It is the one thing I guess it's the emails you're doing a lot of in business, and life and so you It definitely definitely is the number one and we haven't even paid for it. Yeah, like how do they make money?
I think the freemium model Yeah, that's how that how they're making money notion, which I think is a great app and has heaps of potential. They've just done a bunch in the way of opening it up so you don't like you've got there unlimited leads on the free account. Yeah. Which is cool.
So I'm paying Should I just stop paying for? Yeah,
you're still using the credit that you don't No,
I read a few. Yeah, if you can. So it told me there aren't those block limits anymore. They've made that unlimited.
What are they doing? Who's advising their business? What's going on?
DJ Yunus advisor? Did you see remember sweet, I was always calling everyone. Ah, use Word. It was a podcast app that was designed as like a social network. So you could say what your friends were listening to. You could recommend specific episodes. And we thought what I thought specifically I'm like, so it's gonna be big. We need to get on sweet. I think it's great. They really didn't get the up take that they were expecting. So they've now pivoted really is so yeah, that I saw on an email I got I was just looking at the email I know HB still uses it. Jake from down the road uses it. Bri uses us a bit. Now they've raised around two point hero, which I like the idea of it's you give 599 a month and then eat. What do you What are you smiling at George?
Just because I know how much he loves paying for apps. So
have you tried five not not haven't yet 599 a month. And then what it does is it looks at what you are listening to. And it will give pod the podcast you listen to it a cart based on what you've listened to in that month. So it splits up that six bucks. And a bunch of wise
Yeah. And so the the individual so if someone if there was shitloads of people listening to our show through school We would get a cat. Yeah.
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it's very difficult, difficult app to uptake because he cashed in going anywhere unless every podcaster signs up to pot here to claim the cash.
Well, yeah, I wanted to have the client Joe.
Joe Joe Rogan's not signing up to this Joe Rogan is
doing it right now anyway,
you know, I mean, like no one's no one's gonna be signing up for this from a podcast podcaster point of view
Well, the thing is, I guess like, at that point, I feel like the audience we have the gronk it's a different level where it's like, I would prefer just to do a direct thing. Yeah. versus doing a 599. Yeah, just babe
Paper why they sold that is we don't make money. What's their incentive? How are they making money? What's the what is the what are they doing? The podcast is paying them to be on their platform. Yeah, I miss it. I mean, this may be they keep the cat we're saying is like, these brands using the freemium model to get uptake of uses. And then they're working out where they're going to make money, but they can't set up a business. I'm just more curious about, yeah, like these freemium models, where they're not transparent about where they're making money, they don't need to be essentially if
Well I think no i think that they do to a certain degree that like the rule that I heard years ago which I think is very true is if you don't pay for a product you are the product and so with Facebook with all of these, you know, different tools, if you're not paying them, they're monetizing you whether that's through data, it's through you know, putting ads in front of your face. Like I would like to see more options around this stuff where similar to YouTube premium you can pay an amount and then you don't have to say ads I haven't watched a video pre roll in us and like when I'm when we're watching a video and I looked at your computer, and an ad appears I just walk away we've had
three screens, screens at the office. That's That's why I was shocked at the moment dude, Facebook have rolled out it like they're going so hard on ads within Facebook video and Really on the other side is creators are now making money through facebook, through videos, and you know, like monetizing their videos, but you just it and you see that little load bar of the videos like your ad starting in two seconds on Oh no, I end up just swiping and going away from the video. That's how but I don't think they have a function yet to pay to remove all ads from videos.
Yeah, yeah, the dynamic ad insertion stuff is interesting. Like, I wonder where Spotify is gonna go with at all because from what I was reading, even with premium, even when you pay money with Spotify, within their plans with ad insertion for podcasts, you'll still be delivered ads.
ads. So what you're really paying for then,
so you know, like I mean, this is this is the old foxtel conundrum Isn't it like remember in the 90s when, when we got foxtel, which is like cable TV here in Australia. Yeah, it was pushed as a no ad or very little ad product. And then before you know it, they like turned on all those ads.
Because I never had i the only time I had it was when we got it for three months for free. And then we got rid of it. But when I was living with my brother, yeah, 17 It was great. But other than that, I mom and dad wouldn't have it.
We had it like, all like my whole childhood. Like I remember the age of, I reckon, I don't know, I feel like in like 1996 or something or 797 I feel like that was when we would have gotten hurt. And I just remember that being a conversation where people would say, hang on, they'd come over and they'd be watching foxtel and then an ad would come on. I don't know the specifics. Whether that's even true when I'm saying but that's when I remember anyway.
I don't know how much it worked for them either way, because they're in Sydney. If financial trouble
Yeah, they are they injure I don't know much about foxtel that they're owned by telescope. He's called school.
I mean, these kind of tight foxtel spokesperson said heavy discounts in voluntary suspension of the service were also available for customers. So imagine everyone who is struggling and pulling
the money pulling their subscription based on that.
I reckon if you had if you had 20 bucks to spend, if you were to recommend to gronk to get certain like, I've got a 20 bucks a month budget to spend on different premium things, what would you pick?
I mean, what are the I feel like I'm the basic non optimised version which is, so what are you paying for Spotify, Netflix, Spotify, good internet, which isn't a part of that subscription. That sounds
like an ISP that you'd start like.
Sorry, do you get what's called I pay for shade? No. Oh, yeah. G Suite but also Apple's backup service. Sure. I mean, I both get we get it though it was. So it's like a family account. And so hers is backed up. And it's more just for the headache though. Because who's plugging into the computer anymore to back it up? And so if Amy just forgets to it's just doing it automatically and when she loses their phone or she, you know, follows mine, we've got it. No issue.
I think YouTube premium has like a music product. Like I feel like a YouTube could be an all in one. solution. I think what's awesome about YouTube premium just to sell it for a second. I'll sign this to Bree. She's off at the new coals to get to the ingredients. She's going To the Glen fairy one is that
is that mine I
stone? Oh, definitely. One question about the Glen fairy one is there more parking than just the ones that are directly at the front? Because we've gone there once before before they had the NASA on the actual road. I just we went there once and trying to park and reversing out into crazy traffic. But there's a car parked behind it.
That's what I thought behind this would be a huge car back and then across the road. There's three car parks. Behind the shops. This Yeah, there's heaps
but what I was suggesting to me is that she could listen live if you have YouTube premium. You can listen like you could be at the at Kohl's and you could be listening to us live with that your phone in your pocket. No problem. The video is not playing its background play. It's great.
I think I think that is the best feature of YouTube premium, like ads. Like I think it's better than Getting ads, to be honest. I think
like a lot of the times they're doing like three month trials and things like that. I think that's like,
worthwhile. I just want to give you an update on the foxtel stuff. One of the great unanswered stories of Australian media this year is why banks and other financial groups won't refinance foxtails $1.5 billion debt. They're in a billion dollars $1.5 billion of debt that it's a lot of debt.
That's that if you want to know a lot of debt, and what it's like who owns Faraday Future in the US $3.6 billion dollars in personal debt. It's
very nice. It's very nice this but he's gone. He's
hit the verge is he's actually outrageous. So anyway, he started a company called La eco lico, I think. But anyway, he, he started up a bunch of different companies and he was like leveraging everything that he learned in all these different companies. Like equity and stuff to fund the company so he sells his equity and companies his personal equity and then starts another one. And so
anyway, like I
did that I don't even know what it means at that point. I don't have that amount of personal debt. It's not to say what C's minimum repayments on her three point something billion
no repayment he's he's fled China and gone to California and he's any started Faraday Future and he put $900 million of his own cash into it. And so now they just they just made a settlement for not a settlement they made they signed off in court just saying that all the creditors and all the people he owes money to now have a stake in Faraday Future to try pay off that 3.2 billion but
me Never unscrewed. It reminds me all the way work stuff what happened to the we work like remember before COVID-19 that was like the big story. They
done SoftBank, Nana SoftBank bought out heaps, I think
because SoftBank was the original investor, so they obviously just put more cash in just to try and save their own ass.
Because I think they put like 19 in or something like that.
Yeah, last week they had a new valuation from the 47 billion that it was initially valued at before the debacle it's now worth 2.9 billion whatever that means. But you know, like at the drop from what it was is massively significant. It's that guy who walked away with cash but he's got no bloody soul that guy Yeah. Like is is when I feel like a piece of shit or maybe not maybe when you're doing shitty things you justify to yourself that you know it's okay justify
recite the chat I know I we can banter. I think we can banter we can lean on chat more. I think that's a nice new rule making up as we go. Russ is paying $2 45 a month for kayo. They're offering it to existing customers. The things like what can you actually watch on kale at the moment?
What sports? Gold? Yeah, it's
really, that doesn't mean like who is watching? Is there really a market for watching old sports content?
I think I think what you could watch is surfing. Because you can just admire the wives and the surfing, skateboarding.
Surfing is very timeless, isn't it?
What is it surfing? surfing?
evergreen content slider just rip big wide.
Yeah. You know, it's JB, what are you real old? That's funny, timeless. What's going on content just seems funny. Like
if it's windy Feel TV on Fox don't go under. Because a wasn't a surfing channel. Yeah.
remember a few years. There was some great stuff on foxtel I remember just getting a digital chubby when I was over at friends places watching foxtails Oh my god. Like remember, MTV, had the great channels where there was like, life of Ryan, this guy, this this skater who just had this epic life, he'd made millions of dollars and had a house in the hills in LA and used to do burnouts and he's Mercedes Benz. And he was like, 18 just skating everywhere. It was so good. There's heaps of cool reality shows back then. I'd say you just got to show Josh. Bobby bones are really bones from the States just signed a net geo show. It's called breaking Bobby. And it's about him travelling around trying things in cities and occupations that could break him, but it's like an 18 part series that has been recorded. It
well, I don't know if it had but it said that the deal was done and like they're moving ahead on production and there was some footage of like some shots of him out the wilderness but I mean, it's a big he's a big radio presenter in from Texas. No, where's it Where's he from?
Tennessee i think but he's like a nationally syndicated so he's like a breakfast show that everywhere. But this is cool. Charlemagne the God, Who? Who you love. I am
a lot about him. He's,
I think he's great. I think he's great. He's great.
He's a good interview. He pushes back on people. He's not afraid. Like he's, he's fast. He's quick witted. And he's and he just doesn't let shit like if people are trying to. I just yeah, I appreciate his interviews with some huge music stars that he's just like, if he thinks they're not the best, he's tells him like he's real straight. He's a straight shooter. He's a straight shooter. perfectly manicured eyebrows are I don't
really, I was I got pushed on YouTube a snippet from his podcast. He does the brilliant idiots. And they're talking about the Joe Rogan deal. And I feel like if you are in radio have any interest in radio any interesting like the shit that we sort of harp on about if the things like the Ashley ginsburg thing interested you or the strain podcast rancour, he talks about podcasting and comparing it to radio and what's currently happening with radio within the US.
That was super interesting.
I saw that snippet come up on I gotta listen to it. I mean,
Ryan did the same thing but his is a little bit of rah rah so
I wouldn't bother what I really what is he saying? Yeah.
Just a lot of big words, you know?
That he's he's
very Russell Brand. Yeah.
A lot of like, you know, just You know, capitalists just a lot of light.
A lot of got you not even know
what i mean like, Man, you don't need to go down that route. You know, like a bit of rah rah, it's
not instant, right? The thing is you're impressed but also confused and somehow satisfying. It's the intellectual porn, listening to Yeah, people like Sam Harris or Jordan Peterson or Russell Brand, that are just even if you don't like them as people are, what they talk about, just how they articulate ben shapiro like these hyper smart people that are just spitting. It's like, they're like rappers, man. I don't know where they pull these words from, what they even mean, but I feel like I get what you say. And I love watching them debate. Yeah, especially when they're on the opposing side. That's like, coming up with arguments like they do in the moment. Very, very satisfying to just watch because he's swinging by threads. Oh, that's makes sense. Yeah. Oh, this one makes sense. I get it.
There's something interesting about From a like, content consumption perspective, there's something interesting about it. Like, connecting with mental health. Like I think about how much the shit you can choose how much it sort of impacts how you feel, how you think. Don't you think that we don't actually consider enough the type of content that we're listening to them I'm watching, man, it's music to like, think about just the dark salt. How it makes you feel
like triggers, you know, a childhood like dark rap music. gangsta rap makes me feel like um, you know, just a bit sort of down in the dumps as a teenage kid. It's like what I used to feel like it almost pulls you back to that and so your point around talking about serious shit and dark stuff, it's it does it change, you can change your mood. It's what did someone write things Joe Rogan? He said, I just I spent the first Two hours of my morning watching slap videos where there's like competitive slapping and he's like I do not recommend that I'm off to run hills because I feel so bad about my life but it seems like a negative like people slapping each other and the pain and fight videos I get caught in I get caught on my Facebook since I follow some like fight channels like maybe it's like on from UFC stuff to this straight fight stuff and then I feel so bad after watching it. Oh my god I'm sorry you've just reminded me I'm unfollowing it I followed this myth. Like you don't have these like these like a Makita learning channels myth. No, there's a myth channel that's like people on myth myth beach 2.0
fights that we used to download on Napster back in the day that was horrendous.
It is my wrongdoing. I thought this could be funny like people just like off their face and I got sad from watching it. I've thought about it the last couple of days. I'm sad. I'm really sad that
Smith's right brain I was talking about this as we walked up Smith's right, there were five intoxicated like five people who were either drug or alcohol affected on like 1010 in the morning, like it's becoming like once you get past it once you get past like the straight it's a long Street. There's nice like Fitzroy gardens at one end or Edinburgh gardens at the other end. It's like the shit of getting there which is like, I can't be fucked.
I think these pages exist because there is something that people get out of them. And I say that like I've watched a heap of those videos. I'm it's like a car accident you want to look at it as you drive past it. And then you like don't feel good about looking. And so it's written and the the appeal but it's like it's it's too easy to look like I'm more I'd be more inclined to not look nowadays when I go past Something when I say there was something I was at, and I decided not to attend a funeral, actually, and I decided not to go and see the open casket and I was like, as a younger person, I would have definitely gone in curious. And then I was like, absolutely not. It was too dark. It was a it was someone had taken that off, but I was like, blown away that people were going in you know, I guess it's a personal choice and they it's you know, their version of mourning, but it was it was a decision that I made and I'm glad I did in that time. And so and I've become as I've got older, the one that won't look at the car accident if I say it, it's which is
I find stuff super difficult, like Yeah, but even things like even like anything that could just be I don't know, like I feel like maybe I put more weight on to like written stuff but I feel like when I'm like reading an email, I catch myself skimming it, because I don't want it to like really intervene, because then I'll like have to consider it in this bigger way. But then I was thinking I'm like, hang on. Yeah. What am I like? I'm actually not getting the information. Like if someone's sitting through edit notes, and I go, yeah, okay, yeah, now I get it because it's like, I don't want to, if I, if I slowly read it, it impacts me more. But then it's a fact app thing that like you need to you should be slow reading things because you're meant to be getting that response potentially. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I think you're spot on because I do the exact same thing, where it's like, I'm pre empting, that there's going to be something that is gonna rattle me, and I don't want to be rattled. And I and so then I, it's just like, slightly closed eyes like, looking over. But then I guess there's, there is the version of and the benefit of one of the benefits of meditation is trying to not completely stop these, these reactions, but just the harder you majorly lower the impact of them and the time it gets you so you'll be got by it, but it's about how long it will exist within you. It's like the half life. You know, it's like you will be affected because it is a negative email but then you like, won't impact me for as long
because you will. That's why that's why I feel like I did the whole lamb, which doesn't work well. I still haven't found a good tool to read out my emails to me. Remember, I was trying all different toys to try and do that. But even Nana, no subscription on that. But I like one off. Oh get Bri to do it sometimes even saves like we get an if we get an email that sent to both of us. I'd be like, Hey, we're on FaceTime like can you just write that out for me? Which is pretty good. But if you If you were an executive, I could see the appeal. Howard Stern has before a guest comes on. He has his producers read out all of his notes to him. So he but he doesn't really have the notes there he'll go. They'll go through all of the details, all of the bits. And then that's how he synthesises it, which I think that makes sense for me too. That's why like with the eggplant stuff, I feel like I could go into all the details because I can see like, I heard Gordon Ramsay explaining, and I sort of entered into his story. And then I can,
I think, I think for him is a that's a performance. We're talking about emails and stuff because what i what i do know for certain is it's completely based on how what my internal state is upon how I'll react to these emails, because think about when you're In that state where it's like, some reason I'm on my computer at 9pm I've had a glass of wine. I'm fucking fired up. I've smashed her like 38 miles. I don't know how to do it. None of them affect me boom. Well, it's because you drown and so Oh, definitely. But yes, exactly state there is a change in my state. But so then when it's cyber, or there are 10 times that there's been no alcohol and I've smashed a mouse, it's early in the morning, I'm productive. But then the time that they really affect me is totally because of what's what's going on in inside, in my mind, like, your reality is a byproduct of you know, the quality of your mind. And so if you're in a bad place, you really reality's horrible. Like, that's just what happens and so it's, yeah, man. It's a battle because I think we all do experience versions of what we're talking about.
I just had a moment if I might you Georgie boy. Can people hear? Yeah, when I switch back? That's interesting. I just realised that I There was a couple of buttons that I need to press for Georgia boy that I never pressed at the start, but people could still hear him. So that was, that was good. Yeah, we need George. And Greg. I wonder if it Yeah. I wonder if people could win. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's all it's all good. Yeah. Do we have any any admin tips?
Yeah, we got a review from Charles. Maybe the bot, breaking the bot. But anyway, I love this podcast. I've only been listening for a short time now be instantly feel in love with it. love how they don't always have a guest and just talk what is normally behind the scenes out on air. also love how they do the shows live on youtube and their 24 hour show. Hope there's more to come. Good job boys. Five stars.
Is that from the pot? I
think so. Yeah. Charles 3004. So definitely bad vibes
from the future board,
Charles, we were talking about the bottom.
The other day, he's the boss's new nickname. Yeah, the bot
is Charlie's nickname. So chat for people who don't know, Charles is from Bathurst is TJ correct me not Bathurst. Bathurst really
is is for many years and I got I got correct. I am on air in radio chapter. Really?
What do they call it? The Baptist, right?
They call it
they don't call it Baptist 3000 they call it Baptist 3000
whatever you call whatever
it is. Anyway.
So anyway, it's probably chat the number of child users on Apple is bethis one pet tech,
Trappist one. So anyway, Bathurst the bot from Bathurst he, he was he was talking to TJ and I and discord. And he's, yeah, he's built a streaming rig with a backpack and the complete plugging into our software and so you're saying hey guys next time you're doing a 24 hour stream, let me know because I want to come to Melbourne and do a bunch of stuff I just love what he's doing I just love the how much he does stuff from a technical perspective how much he was in the discord setting it all up making things happen. It's so cool. Yeah, he's amazing.
He's you know, I had to apologise to him.
I wish I did a group
I notified a whole group which is a no go Yeah, I mean someone's been removed because they added everybody which I sent out the video asking to everybody in child said no worries next time in the in the Announcements page, please. Yeah.
He's got a very respectable he's got a Josh Janssen Vaughn doesn't he from
posted that the old cheese and Akan video Did you good
Really this is an all VC a
Yeah, we try and correct Yeah,
yeah. from when you were 15
Yes, I was 15 and I do like a teen flicks. Funny. Did you see Dave Lee down under was in it? Yeah, he is. He's the guy with the slight the clapper board. Yes. Oh,
yeah. So yeah.
And so yeah, we I've got the old Motorola as well the flip
the razor razor. Yeah. Who had the pink one any I
hadn't either. pink one. The pink one came after this like so the pink one was a flex. Just like the rose gold used to be a flex on the iPhone because you could only get that on the new model. So yeah, it's a video of me being outrageous. For eight minutes. I think
good acting Jedi.
I thank you. I did actually want someone else. So Jonathan aldehyde who made What What is he? He directed, he directed event van Damon's land that Australian film. Anyway, he, he had been on blue Hill as I think. And it was like a big deal. And I was like, Jonathan, will you be the director? Sorry, will you be the like play the director character, Timothy. And it was too much of a commitment for him because he was training the whole thing. And so I am I directed and also was the lead in it, but just you can see that was where I said advertisement instead of advertisement. That man picked me up on and, yeah, there's a few things is it? Isa was in it, who she's, I think she's still in home and away. So she's Sandy.
She's so smart. She's a successful she's the big fish yesterday.
was It is a different time.
I was married to it for a while. You called it is that what? What did I call her? She's got another nickname.
Yeah, I don't know what
it was. He called her or something, didn't you? She She called me. And she tried facetiming I was like, surely that's a
that's a mistake.
accident. And then I checked out. I tried to call her back. And then she didn't answer us and how you sir? It's JJ. Just returning FaceTime. You're like, I see this as mistakes like, yeah, I hope you're doing well. You guys done a contacts claim? Like do you go out and sort of claim your contacts?
There are some dirty numbers. You might like just old school shit. Just old school.
grumpy. I only got 73 Yeah, I mean, it's like there's not many i think i think you could write almost 100 contacts the other day?
Definitely. God, these are All this code now
you're just retiring the phone completely the discord
alright guys got up
right I'm gonna go and salt an eggplant and I actually went to the eggplant yet I'm gonna prepare the lamb I'm doing it I'm pressure cooks so that was a bit I'll do a yeah when should we do the discord Should we start it should I do the first five minutes on Instagram Live so people can go on and then say hey guys we're moving to discord yeah
yeah I guess now wait but when he got to like what Tommy doing like well after this like
no I need to kind of get back to three o'clock okay
yeah admin off the show and then I could do it on my platform.
I can't cry. I might throw it in the box I did the issue with the barbecue is I I think I've been thinking that the gas has been running out but that was since since the raid a deal has been Pain so I cooked for three day deal when I said Eric and the gas is about to go and we haven't yet replaced the gas Surely it's going to go any second. So a lot of drama a little
bit new but next time you go to the
we have to replace them like
I know that's fine just replace it
so I just yeah I need to take this one and then go down it's like more admin than you It's literally the very same bottles and I can see that how much is back I had to the soda string I didn't want to
but now you've got three of them that you can just double got to batch
Sure, easy peasy salt sells off the show.
Yeah, great. Perfect right guys at lemon sold is just salt with added lemon rind or whatever it's called will try to look for lemon salt at the shops. Right today they talk so I have a good one and we'll see you tomorrow.
See you guys