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It's a daily talk show, Episode 720. This one is with Ron Shelton recorded during our 24 hour live stream, and I'm super excited to release this one. You know, Ryan, for me, has been the biggest inspiration and, and I can say that he was the reason why I wanted to even get into any of this stuff and learn about comedy and editing and, and sketches and, and all that sort of thing. Yeah, I've been watching his stuff since I was 12 when he was on real stories and rove and, and following what he's done since and now he's putting out a new piece of work every 11th of the month on his new website, Ryan calm, and it's so incredibly unique and creative. I haven't seen anything like it before. Yeah, I could watch his stuff all day. So it was awesome for me to finally get to meet him and have a bit of a chat at the end. But before that, it's a really great conversation, right when we needed it at about 6pm he just picked us right back up, and we'll get to go for the rest of the night. So I hope you enjoy this one. This is a personal highlight for me. This is with Ryan Shelton.

1:20
It's Ryan,

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Ryan schouten you've got to be on

1:25
Well, it's six o'clock skinny and scotch, isn't it? Oh, my

1:32
God. Every Friday, six o'clock skinny and Scott.

1:39
What sort of crime?

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What kind of sketchy I'm

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a it's a it's a Glenn live it

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in a blue box. So that's the extent of my knowledge of what it actually is. But it's it's very good, very affordable, relatively speaking.

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It's just you know, like when you when the taps not working, it's just good to drink something.

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How do you do it?

2:10
All right, I'm gonna ask you the question everyone's asking you. How's it how's the day gone? Yeah,

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it's good to

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be aware. We're probably living now. Is he now Ryan? Yeah. And yeah, I haven't really eaten much. It's at that point where we we just came off the back of probably seven hours of guests after guests after guests. And, and I feel I'm feeling pretty relaxed. I don't have my scotch. Am I skeevy? Yeah, but I am feeling kind of relaxed right now.

2:40
That's weird.

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Yeah. Is it is it kind of,

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is it the equivalent you can't you guys kind of in the equivalent of like, it's the hump dissection of the broadcast?

2:53
Yeah, it's like the

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equivalent.

2:56
Well, I think that what you're saying is like a real like we've we've gotten bit loose or comfortable with just getting a bit slower. Like the transition between you being in the green room and then coming on you can see that like there's not like if you were watching if you were in a green room and you're watching the show that was unfolding in front of you, you probably would feel a little bit nervous coming out because it's sort of nothing's really happening.

3:23
Nobody I it's kind of voyeuristic in that way. Like it's, I feel like what like the the on it, the offer is on it. But the offer is the offer

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is what it is. It's great.

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It's really a guest spot like how does that firework

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and is a great fun?

3:44
Actually, it never looks that good. I can't believe that it's come up like that lucky like the last couple of weeks. much trouble getting it going and and for whatever reason right now it looks fake, but it's completely real. It's just a combustion.

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It looks so good. But like do you need to like how do you get the wood is just cutting up wood?

4:06
No I will not not me personally but I'm so I'm out of out of town at the moment I'm in the country and the one of my neighbours. Don Fairbrother. Shout out, he's about 70 he went out and he chopped the wood with a chainsaw and I kind of hurried and grabbed all the wood and put it in both of our cars for for us so he chopped technically but I I'm a wood gatherer

4:35
would you feel? Are you close enough with Ron to invite him over for skivvies and scotches?

4:41
Uh, yeah, I think so. I mean, he's hearings going a little bit. So um, so I don't know which one's gonna be that good, but he's a lovely man. Lovely man.

4:50
What have you. What have you been doing in ISO? And how is the appraiser what's going on bro? Hey, bro. Ryan says hi. I think food organising the righteousness like you can't get mad because you don't want to be the the the boyfriend to blow up buddy's girlfriend on the livestream. It's not like that happened with boo boo, boo boo I got in trouble didn't it was a bit it was the way out of it. So, you know So Ryan, what what have you been up to? Yeah.

5:27
Um, I've been I've actually been kind of busy writing I've been doing a lot of, I've been kind of using it as an opportunity to do some things and, and I've actually just this new show, which is starting in a couple of weeks, which I'm going to be on. And so I've got a job crazily in this time. So it's this this new show on ABC called at home alone together. And re fucking Martin is hosting. So joining us I've been writing for that and editing that and it's been, I've been kind of weirdly busy. So it's been. It's been good. It's been good. Yeah. How about you guys? What have you guys been doing other than this show every day, literally just the show,

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but I wanted to say a surprise we had earlier on and we asked who his favourite actor or comedian was that he's worked with recently, and had Ryan Shelton as he knew he was the darling love. He didn't even know that you're coming on the show like that. So that's a genuine, genuine shout out.

6:32
Oh, that's so cool. Love is nice, isn't it when he obviously works on on Kenny show, and I went and did like a day on on that. And it was the best like that show is so much fun because it's just it's kind of set good level of crew size, where it's big enough to do lots of stuff and move really fast, but not so big. But

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it's the same problem. Yeah,

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exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I just managed to finish Did he talk about that actually

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building? That was kind of a weird thing because you're saying like updates from human choice, Instagram, and everything was locked down. And I was like, how are they? What are they? Like? How have they got like snuck through like that? What did he say?

7:20
Well, sorry, they like they basically went as far as they could but then they ended up having to shut the thing down. So that it was

7:28
Yes, it was a bit of 11 days at 14 or something like that. And so they're still gonna make it happen. Yeah, I think

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that's pretty good. Now I'm a producer Charles is asking so this is a little bit unprofessional and I hope you don't mind but with the the merge you big supporter and you bought submerge, you put a p o box as the address but we got it off. We took your billing address because our Ramp All who was riding around the bike was doing deliveries and we will try to be Tyler's but you can't give it to Australia Post is ramble since you are fuck. You're at the euro. Yeah, I'm away. Yeah. So there's a T shirt somewhere. It's in the letterbox. It's Yes. And

8:17
that's okay. Oh, yeah, that's, yeah. Yeah, that's fine. And there's a bunch of thieves in the building, but I can't imagine they'll be operating it. Okay. I'll be a fav social distancing.

8:29
Guys, definitely no,

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no, he's, I mean, he's he's one. One of the points. There was some advice from some medical person saying stock up on your drugs, which seems counter if you think about it, there's not like getting shipments in from overseas drug dealers are going you know, everyone's going out of business, including their

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drug dealers. I mean, surely drug dealers

8:54
you know, the supply chain, Ryan, as you know. It's been affected. That's been.

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And so what's

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the first it's the first today? The 11th is when you release a new raw AI and video

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are you up to? How many why's it down?

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I'm up to four. Watch for Yeah. So yeah, this year I've I've started working on that and

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yeah, it's it's strange at the moment because the first two obviously, I mean, even though I'm the first two, I made the videos done on a very small guy like it was just me and Dr. Tim, who I work with and another awkward. Mako is literally three of us at night. So technically to Cooper, because I'm not in town and everything's a bit strange. Making things at the moment, in the same way that you guys are having to adapt. Everyone's kind of having to figure out how do I do what I do and not make it All about the pandemic that's still you know, I guess remind will stay true to what you want to do and not let it affect you too much because I think with your shows will be different because it's more a radio situation and when it is a radio situation but with with the website with with Ryan calm people like like a podcast people will discover it at different times I'm imagining like there'll be people who will probably stumble across it in like a year or two years. And I'm kind of wary about

10:36
I mean, on one hand, it's you could look at it as a time capsule, but on the other hand, you can look at it as just like content. And the time capsule it's become this interesting because

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when I started doing this, I was kind of interested. I was interested in looking in looking at it as a sort of, diary of sorts, or in the same way that like a musician will write a an album. about where they're at in their life in that point in time, it was kind of interesting to think about it as like, well, maybe I'll just write about and make things that are kind of about the things that are happening to me at the moment or what I'm thinking. And that was certainly the first two. But now as I'm sort of three down and moving into the kind of the guts of it a bit more,

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especially in the first two videos that I made,

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I felt like I really came out swinging with the things that I really wanted to say like the things that were on my mind have been on my mind a lot. So now it's sort of I'm sort of more into the area of like, well, now what do I just want to do? Like I don't, I'm not as those sort of things that I wanted to say on as, as prevalent. They're honest, they honest with mine, because I've put it out there. And so now it's more about just like what fun things can I do like what, you know, we're in this in a situation where you can do anything and there's kind of no real restrictions. It's sort of It's sort of can be kind of overwhelming creatively, I guess, because where anything's possible, like, I'm someone who really loves parameters, which is kind of well, I sort of set myself this goal of doing one thing every month. So there's a time parameter. And of course, there's a budgetary parameter as well. But, but creatively, you can kind of do anything. And it's not even restricted to just video. Like the last one I did was just purely audio. And so it it's kind of exciting but also overwhelming to kind of approach each one like this next one I'm doing is completely different again, I mean, I think it'll be its video but it'll be just completely different than the other things and just not connected at all. But it's just the most it's it's the some of the most fun I've ever had, doing anything. It's complete freedom like you guys have, and it's liberating. It's so exciting

12:56
to think that the two

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sides I haven't talked for 10 minutes. I fell asleep, not because of Iran. I'm just fighting fighting hard and

13:06
sugar do

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absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's we do the one for one, but it's completely gone out the window. And, and so yeah, it's you know, it's it's got

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he's gotten a bit full on I think that's part of it. So I just

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sense of humour we talked about in the recent weeks saves having zero sense of humour. I mean, you're a comedian, that is stimulating people's sense of humour. What is your, I mean, it's a weird one to even identify how do you what do you view as your own sense of humour? And how do you explain that?

13:48
Um, it's quite it's, I think it's changed a lot actually. In you know, I kind of I've been reflecting on it quite a lot actually. Recently and I think more and more I'm more interested in sort of finally being

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without wanting to sound kind of

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sincere about it, but kind of being truthful, I think, more than anything, when it certainly like years gone by and other things that I've done and shows that I've developed and things that I've made. It's always been. It's always been like, well, just what's funny, you know, just trying to make it funny, silly, and I was always really kind of like allergic to the idea of revealing myself at all. Like, I just never wanted to tell anyone about who, you know what I was thinking of anything. And I think mostly because I didn't really know and I couldn't really articulate it. And in the last couple of years, as I've done sort of more reflection and more the sort of thinking about what I'm doing and where I'm going, I guess, it's become easy to articulate. And I guess once once you kind of understand yourself more than it becomes a bit more Well, at least for me, it's become more interesting and exciting to be able to express it. So sense of humour. Um, so, I'm looking at, just like the truth of like, what I actually feeling and realising more and more just, we're all so similar. We're all the same. We're all having similar struggles to a certain extent. And I think, and I'm certainly not I'm certainly not the first person to do this, but it's very new for me, so I'm really enjoying it.

15:39
Have you learned anything about yourself? You know, I saw like any big surprises.

15:49
Not really. I mean, it's confirmed my love for pasta.

15:58
Other than that, No, no huge revelations. Really? How about you guys? Have you guys had any kind of beat? So I think

16:06
it's around the people like, I mean, that's one thing that we all have have had to cut. It's, it's painful. And so, the family thing. I mean, as much as we've all coped, I feel like it's so I've loved I sent my parents last weekend, and it was really lovely like to see the joy in them, which is something it's one of those moments where you'd probably take it for granted when you're just around people all the time. And so I just mom and dad, the relationship they have with my son, Bodie. Yeah, I mean, it goes from that to then bees. Bees with a mate is kind of missed that too.

16:45
Yeah.

16:47
Yeah. 797 would have

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been suspiciously quiet.

16:57
Yeah, I mean, it's it's probably interesting because It's that social nade that I've discovered, I can sort of fulfil it through being pretty much digital only, like being able to FaceTime like, so you're not gonna say anyone anymore.

17:16
You've got to make a nice nice in the relationship. Yeah, he knew

17:22
he's got a girlfriend since being in.

17:24
Yeah, that's that's a that's a great discovery as well. Yeah, I mean, I think just I mean I've never I've never been one to FaceTime heaps and and really get into all the messaging and so I think I've sort of I've done a lot of that recently and I think that's, that's been something that I've, I've linked into and sort of enjoyed over the past few weeks. So yeah.

17:50
You realise you're gone.

17:53
I've sort of realised that I realised that pretty early actually when, when people stop saying HR And we were relying so much on video chat and video chat kind of had this rebirth. And before that, for me at least FaceTime, or Skype was only kind of reserved for special occasions. Like it was like, if you go on a holiday, then you'll like FaceTime your family or your friends or partner demo. Or if it's like a work meeting that, you know, that's like, well, I'll FaceTime me and but then, really quickly, it became dislike facetiming like you would call someone. And so I feel like Finally, in that future that all of the films predicted not enough, it'll stick around. But it's like that idea of like, well, a call is a video call. That became more and more, I think,

18:42
sorry, have you been doing much collaboration, like so like doing creative calls or having sort of work meetings within sort of that video conferencing context and and is it different than sort of being in the room?

18:56
Uh, haven't done a lot of it.

19:00
The only that I mean, in the same way that conference calls a shared, it's just like a delay, any sort of delay just kills. It's just, it's, it's so frustrating because you'll be on this roll and then people will jump in and then and then you spend, you know, 20 seconds but no, no you go nuts. Right? Sorry, you know, and it's just really hard to get that roll on So, I don't know, video calls have any more than, you know 12345 people I just

19:34
TJ Jones is gonna say what you think about 97 tapping out with George so George can jump into yes to 97 spot because Ryan George, our editor is one of your biggest fans. And he also it turns out he's a big fan of keep it cleaner as well. It seems to be a big fan of everyone, but he does He does know a lot of Ryan Shelton trivia. So, service Do you want to do want to sort of end that? Unless you do I didn't send him my K or T Good. Now I can switch him. I can switch him in. He's just gonna have to have to join.

20:15
Okay, all right. I'll let ya.

20:18
Yes. Right, right just on what you're saying. It's like it almost we need rules in these about who's speaking but then that is not how you normal have human interaction, right. So it's like, we don't go to the pub and then enforce rules about when Ryan's talking. And then I'm talking it's a bizarre thing. But then you find it works. You find it works.

20:41
Well it formalises what should just be a fun environment. And it's it's Yeah, it's just it's really hard. I mean, like the the delay thing. I'm shocked whenever I'm on a conference call on like proper conference, call software and there's a delay, like and not even video. Just like always Audio like how this still delights?

21:04
Yeah, it's definitely a it's a bit of a buzzkill. But um, yeah, it is a nightmare, but you know what we've got? Georgie Boy George, you win, you win.

21:17
I think that Oh yeah, great.

21:19
I just have a chat with Ron Shelton. How's it go?

21:28
It's a Skippy but yeah, thanks.

21:33
Yeah, no, I was actually wearing it today because it's quite quite cold today and where I'm working is like a shed and it's freezing and so yeah, I realised that six I was going to six o'clock with you guys and then I realised Holy shit. skimpy starts with s what else start to adds scotch. And anyway, I picked this crazy idea that Josh give me some scotch at six o'clock. And here we are.

22:03
I'm just gonna eat my burrito. I hope you guys don't mind while so George sort of gets up high right now it's from happy Mexican on huddle straight establishment.

22:14
Go slow, Josh. Go slow. Don't eat too fast. I would

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love

22:25
to jump into joining one. No, no, no. No.

22:30
It's not me.

22:35
I am and

22:36
yeah, I've edited all the audios.

22:41
Well, I've been editing like my own sort of videos for the boys. But the episodes and stuff. They don't get edited, obviously, but I edit like the promos and I've been doing a little hump day replay every Wednesday where I like recap the week and I feel like it's been heavily inspired by, you've been probably my biggest inspiration since I was so the humps

23:05
a replay.

23:07
Yeah, that's

23:08
just Oh, really? What, in what? In what sense?

23:12
Well, I've been watching you since rove days and, and like the grindstone 2800. and stuff like that. And

23:25
2800

23:27
Greg Stein 20. Oh, George could probably pose a better memory than I do. But yeah, I mean, Christ was

23:34
was years ago. So me and Hamish and Andy and Tim Bartley. We do karate, that's a company. And but when were we at the very first job we had on TV, like paid job was at CHANNEL SEVEN and we did this work on the show which ended up being called hi Michelle. Andy. I'm sure Andy or Jaime should have spoken about it at some point on on this book. Anyway, that last time Five minutes and then I got axed and then we got a poker pilot deal, I think at CHANNEL SEVEN. And so we created this pilot. And that was to not show style light show inspired kind of sketch slash live thing, which you know, had some had some okay bits and whenever we were very young, but one of the things we did in that was this sort of documentary thing like this short documentary, which is essentially a mock documentary about a couple who purchase a display home and the display home continues to operate as a display home while they live there. And, and so it was me and so main Hamish and Andy and on the show, but then also Celia Pecola. was on the show as well. So her and I are with a married couple who, who owned this house and had to deal with people coming up. But that was that was the when that pilot didn't happen when we entered that the gravestone 2800 into the cut the Melbourne Comedy Festival, short film competition, and at one and then part of the prize was you got screened on the comedy channel on foxtel. And then from that a the rove or someone at rove store, and then we met with roving and then we ended up making a show called real stories, which was based off sort of, like, triggered from that thing. So you decide that only three

25:37
sorry, what's going through your head those those times so fresh and new Korea? What are you thinking when you're meeting with rove and riving? entertainment? What's the vaad?

25:48
Ah, well, Tara and just ecstasy. Like it was just so quick because we were huge fans of roadshow, we you know, I mean, hi, Michelle. We went to hospital together. And we loved roads that we did here 12 in 99. And that was robes first year when he was on Channel Nine. So he didn't one year of Rome on Channel Nine, which was just brilliant. And then I went to channel 10, but that year 12 and we're at schoolies weight in in Mesa, and whatnot. We were We were at it was like a Tuesday night or whenever I was on, and we were at this place called the Rolling Rock, which is this delightful nightclub in on in Mesa. And we realised it was 930 and rovers about to start and so we like, left the nightclub on schoolies way, and rice and ran to Rome, to then cut to like, you know, five years later, or whatever it was, and we're having this meeting with Rome was just like we couldn't be speaking for myself. I couldn't I couldn't believe it. It was incredible.

27:01
Yeah,

27:03
I just stopped sorry. I just stopped my timer that was about four minutes to eat a whole burrito Josh.

27:08
Yeah, thank you. Well, I just I didn't wanna I didn't want to miss this goal. It was great. George kid going to see you can go How long have you got by Ryan? Can you do till till seven? Have you got another

27:19
guy till seven? I'm actually at seven o'clock on watching Helen did those live zoom showed?

27:24
I can right? Okay Hell no. Yeah,

27:28
it's um, and admins does a character called hell him to do and it is so funny and she'll show this character so funny. She's doing two live zoom shows tonight and tomorrow night and so I'm watching that I've got tickets.

27:45
Yeah.

27:48
Real. Now that's okay. I'm just glad I got some

27:54
real stories was the reason why I wanted to even get into this Feel like industry really be anything? Hands down the biggest inspiration for me, I love that show so much. And now, the other one was, we can be here as we know that you brought on. Yeah. But But what what I loved about your, your stuff in rove days was like the editing being the joke. And you know, yeah, the making. That's what made me want to start getting into editing and stuff just because you know you can add so many jokes into the video in the Edit which I loved.

28:39
Yeah that I was talking to someone about this exact thing like just the other day because when we were when I was doing that segment on rove the very first segment I did was one of the ideas that was left over what we did on that pilot on CHANNEL SEVEN that never went anywhere. So I raid that idea that I was Kinda like I didn't really know what I was gonna do. I had no, I had no kind of fame or I had no kind of like, linking idea of what the way to wake idea was gonna be. And so I did my first one. I think my first I think was like, ideas or ideas. That's what it was. Yeah. So this was like, the title of my segment. And, and I did it. And I remember filmed, we filmed it, Tim and I, we filmed the first one. And I, I'm sure you everyone who's made anything will know this feeling. You get into the edit and you watch the first cart and you'll realise that what you've made is complete here. And you're like a light on. It's like this is bad. This is really not funny. Like there's so many dead spots. It's slow. There's like 30 seconds with no joke, or you know, which is a long time in those short segments. And, and I remember having that sinking feeling which I now realise is quite normal. But at the time, I panicked because in four days time this was going to go on my favourite show. Yeah, I was panicking. And so I remember so. So specifically thinking, well, what if we, instead of just cut it? What if we do a slide transition? And I just do a voiceover saying slot transition? Just, like a little fun just to fill like a moment. And, and we get that. And yeah, and at the time, I was heavily influenced. I'm pretty sure Tim and Eric had started by this stage, because I was so influenced by Tim and Eric. And I think that I was sort of trying to emulate the way that I would kind of play with the medium and the right. A lot of the stuff that I want in my life is stuff that plays with form or convention convention or whatever. And I remember thinking, Oh, that's, that's a great Why they kind of like, Mike, boring bits funny. And then that all of a sudden became what I was writing. So I said, then it just became like, Well how many editors Can I write? And it became like this thing with was the joke then. And but it came from the setup came from necessity or panic, really. But it became like this really fun thing, though, and then shoot, and then the Edit became the most fun part.

31:26
Yeah, I mean, when you're putting stuff out every week for growth, and now, every 11th for yourself, like how do you because I've been doing that with the voice of last few weeks. And every time I'm about to push something out, I hate it. And the first thing I want to do is tell people I'm not happy with it. How do you know?

31:47
I'm exactly the time every hope full of these ones. For the first two videos that I made for that for the 11th I was terrified and I was convinced it was shit I can ask and not necessarily shared I was convinced that it was like, are people gonna think that I'm taking myself too seriously? Oh, people are gonna, like just concentrating on what Yeah, the sort of, you know, what you worry about how people will react. But I I get that every every single time I make something you get so close to it you can't really see the what you saw in it at the start, like the thing that you you love when you had the idea and what made you want to actually make it all the time you get to the end of it, you sort of get that bit and you just sort of concentrating on those little tiny details that most people will never know this. And you've forgotten the actual core of the idea that made you want to do it in the first place.

32:41
Yeah, I think like when you say

32:45
like, the, the committing in public to put something out on a certain day. And then having to do it i think is is good. Like that's that's sort of what I've been doing with this Wednesday thing, but um yeah, sort of inspired by your 1111 day, like, you know, yeah, you got to put something out and then you have to.

33:07
Yeah, it's I mean, I think that's just the reason I did that was because I respond just to deadlines and expectation, like if I if there's no one expecting to do it, and I can sort of excuse myself from not doing it, and then I just make less so it's more just out of guy. I know I'm happier when I make things. So how can I get myself to make things and it was to the idea I had was to kind of set this expectation in public so I'd be publicly humiliated if I didn't do it. Yeah.

33:38
Ryan, what do you look at most fondly? Like when you look back at any all your projects? Are there any ones that were maybe even painful or whatever, when you did it, but you actually look back at it now? I'm like, Oh, that's actually really good.

33:52
Um, oh, luckily, nothing's been really painful.

34:00
thing that I, the things that I look at most fondly, I guess, because I've had different roles on different things. Sometimes, some juicer and some pump perform, and you get different things out of both. And I love both. But I always keep coming back to cliff, like blip was a series I did on Instagram, which is 1515 second episodes, and I played the character. And that was something that was I did that in a year where we were we weren't making anything at Radio karate, and I just, and Instagram was still relatively video on Instagram was still relatively new. And, and I remember thinking, How can I, how can I make the most of it, or what can I do differently on it, and ended up just coming up with this idea and I had this time to do it. And that wasn't it. That was a situation versus may and Tim again, and usually one or two other people helping and whichever actors came and did it with me. But it was complete freedom again like just the the, the the feeling of publishing something directly to the people who are gonna watch it and literally hitting the button like literally hitting the Post button was I remember feeling thinking that that was incredible.

35:22
And I still have fry Did you still have that? You know the feeling that Georgia saying that weekly? Like as much as it did it is something you look fondly upon? Does it still have that level of off within it?

35:37
It physically Cliff

35:41
not as a little definitely the first one definitely when I did it first. There was definitely by the time I kind of got to the point where I was posting and I kind of cements that came out of this thing and I looked at what I've made I was like the fuck you doing

36:00
like playing this character in this ball week in pyjamas. I was like, What are you doing? You're on television.

36:09
I love it. I'm so

36:12
sorry, George. Sorry. No, go.

36:16
No, I definitely had that feeling of like

36:20
of worry, but because it was Instagram and because I knew that comparatively to the other things that people were looking at on Instagram, it would at least have high production value. I think I was leaning on that. Well, my ego was resting on that a little bit.

36:35
Yeah, it was so good. Like it used the platform so well. And another one that was one of the first like Instagram series I saw was with Kyle Mooney and it was day in case of this

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is the greatest thing. Yeah.

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Yeah. I loved re watch the other day.

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You would have seen that the calm or any ga He did that recent that Instagram Stories influences thing.

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Yes, yes. And any spaces out so much. It's like, you know, he'll do one and then a week later follow up on it. And it's like, yeah, long form joke that is done over Instagram and it's, it's so nice. Yes. Brilliant.

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Oh, I think Almunia I don't know if it's I'm assuming it's still on YouTube but the the Vox pops that he used to do before he got on etc. of he so Carmen is on SNL and before he was on SNL, he did these hilarious Vox pops where he would go to baseball games and stuff and he would talk to pick you know, interview people but not really like sometimes he wouldn't make any sense. Anyway it's kind of stupid to try and explain it but Oh, boy, oh,

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yeah. And he was using like one of those like shotgun mics with a huge XLR cord it just like

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go Yeah.

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At the same time,

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like with Carl mania, when he got an SNL I was always interested to see how he would go because he's clearly I don't think he would necessarily respect the comedy that SNL has done in the last like 10 years. Like I think that he's comedy is so alternative that what SNL do, I reckon became like maybe he would have grown up liking it, but I reckon in more recent news, he would look at it and think that's a bit. It's probably not his thing. So then to get on it himself, I reckon now he's doing these things on Instagram, as a way to kind of cleanse you saw a little bit because he feels like he's doing something that isn't. He's actually

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getting slammed on SNL from PayPal, like it's pretty rough. Fans just Yeah, yeah. I think he's shifted. It's like, you haven't seen his old stuff, guys. He's so good.

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Yeah, but also I think the people who SNL like diehards

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have different sets of humans are

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different. So you probably, it's probably not fair. There's nothing

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wrong shouting in the comments in the chat for you and Max price has just jumped into the man himself. Right? Yeah. There's a bunch of comments Casey was saying. perfectionism can be so frustrating. Do you think Ryan Have you been told that you overthink things? Is that sort of thing that you do?

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I have I have definitely gone through times where I've I've thought stuff.

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But I remember reading something. I'm sure you would have read this Josh. I feel like any sort of creative inspiration thing I've read. I feel like Josh you probably read it before me like my son. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but, but the there was something about where it's like, the best thing to do is to just stop you know, because like, you can so easily get stuck in that mode of just like thinking and thinking and thinking. And by the time, if you think too much, you can easily talk yourself out of it. Whereas if you just actually do it, you can prove to yourself whether you're right or wrong. And if it's shift, then you can just move on. But if it's, if it's good, then you've actually done it. And that was, and that was that that's what Sonic kind of great about things like Instagram, and yeah, and even like what I'm doing with the with the 11th. The time parameter means that you kind of have no choice but to just start it because there's a time pressure like there's a deadline coming. So if I was to take all the ideas I do this year on the 11th. And if there was no time restraint, I'd maybe get one or two of them done because I'd spent so long thinking about it.

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Yeah. What's what do you what is the catalyst like for kicking off something? I mean, you're no stranger to doing creative projects. But for something like a new one, what is the catalyst of and what we Previous to that, like what's the lead into actually going, Okay, I'm gonna make a commitment now. And I'm gonna put my foot down and start working.

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Yeah. It's purely that I recognise that I'm at my happiest when I'm making things that I believe in. What I'm making things that I believe in and putting it out there and I can say that people like enjoying it and people are getting some level of joy from it. And that again comes back to Cliff like the the experience of making something really fast. Being on a ride a wholesale and have something in two days, film it in one day, edit it in like awake, and then have it play out in another way. And to be able to say that the instant response from PayPal was just Just one of the best feelings I've ever had, like, as far as a rewarding feeling far better than than rovi

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even though rove being on road had like, a high profile

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he, I don't know, I just didn't I felt like I didn't have that same level of the response. You don't see people in their homes. This is back in the days when people made television. You know, you couldn't see people in their homes actually commenting or laughing or you know the best which is like when people tag their friends and want to tell someone that they enjoyed it so much they want to tell someone else and they want to share it with them. Okay, so with so and then the other the other part of it, Tommy is that I I'm lucky that I have a lot of ideas and the most exciting part of the process is having the idea fleshing out the idea. Sometimes it's like after that point, then you have to make it. And then it becomes annoying. Because it's like, shit. Okay, well, now I have to execute this exciting thing that I spent, I had so much fun thinking about it and writing out this document or whatever. But now I have to go and shoot it in writing, and then it's annoying. So the every month thing, it's sort of meant that I could, I could get through more ideas quicker, like even like the third thing I did. Three weeks ago, is a thing called now shower, which is an audio sort of music comedy thing. And even that, like that's an idea I had about a year ago. And when I decided to do it, it's one of those things. I was so excited because I can just do three episodes. And then that's it. I don't have to I don't have to sustain this idea to the point like because writing sketch comedy is fun at first and then it kind of gets laborious because it's Like, you know, you've only really got like a handful of ideas that you keep then re writing with different characters and different scenarios. So to be able to just speaking for myself at least, to be able to just like make three of these episodes, and really love them, and love the process of making it and the person I made it with, and then they go, Okay, that's done. Now I can just add a new idea. Like, that's just my dream scenario. I just

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love it. In the comments on YouTube at YT, saying, Ryan, have you considered taking your Melbourne International Comedy Festival show and putting it onto another medium or are you saving it for next year? That's Dave's Shed Show.

44:43
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. So Dave said show that I do with what I did last year at the festival with Steve Carr and Dave loss and obviously Mark Wilson from jet. We're gonna do it this year, and obviously the festival got cancelled. We did. Well, we are still trying to Get it, get some sort of TV network interested in it like we did pitch it. And there was initial interest and there is still a beard, but I don't know if it's gonna happen who knows if it's gonna happen. But it was it would have been interesting to see if that happened because obviously doing something live in front of an audience and doing it on TV is completely different. And the live experience of at least making that show was this the best it was just a dream I loved. Yeah.

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That was the that was the funniest live shop ever say I'm not even joking. Oh, yeah,

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it was my favourite thing. Like

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I was good. I was trying to explain what the show was when people said What should we say the comedy festival said, you have to say damn shit shut. And then what's that? Oh, it's Yeah, it's it's like a it's like a like a chat show. But I'm sort of in Brian's like a stage. couldn't explain it.

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Yeah. Thanks, George. Yeah, we love making that and we will do it again like the show that we wrote for this year. We it's not topical. So we can just do it. Hopefully next year, assuming I have a festival next year. So yeah, it's it's, we'll be back doing it again next year. But yeah, it was a real shame. I mean, for so many people that was just a shame at that festival God.

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Obviously, talked about Friday. Everyone knows his shit.

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I can run the exclusive banner you call with and just want to get permission? Yep. Yeah. Okay. Perfect.

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That's all I've got. That's the best news I've got. Actually the other exclusive is that I unfortunately do have to go.

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That's that's fair. I mean, it's sort of an off the banner was relevant for that. But I genuinely

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could sit here. I could sit here. I could come back later tonight if you need someone.

47:05
Yeah, because I'm gonna be doing it until 7am. So

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well, you you guys gonna drink or anything? Yeah.

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Could you imagine trying to take that? Like, I wonder how he's applying anyway? Yeah,

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drug smuggling drug smuggling with Ryan.

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Love you ride mate. We appreciate you

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so much. Thank you so much. Sorry, I was fanboying a bit there but you know,

47:35
no, not sorry. Thanks.

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Bye guys. See ya.