- August 7, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Tuesday August 7 (Ep 146) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Josh is live from Kraków in Poland. Tommy talks about the etiquette of taking photos in Auschwitz, when you should blur out number plates in videos, the weird FaceTime call and what happened with Josh and the hotel in Munich?
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket the daily Talk Show Episode 146 Tommy jacket good to be back after awake off technically not really awake off but you
know what I mean well it hasn't been a week off at all We The reason we say this is because we did for the first time
since I've been away and back to back guest episodes so we can on Friday yet
well it was it was more a bit of a I blame it on the Italians no no no sorry I blame it on the Germans my mother almost
for the final episode that we did record yesterday that didn't get away and was replaced with Bianca Chatfield which was a good it was good chat perfect timing
as well so Bianca was has just started on the block the block was premiered on Sunday night wasn't it was it It wasn't against all of the adventure Sunday night yeah abrogated
the fighting for the top spot. But yeah, I mean, I should just get a TV for the amount of time to pivot last we have you watched this you asked me all the time if I watch something and I don't ever TV so I can't watch it. But if if I can watch it. I watched all of the adventures from Munich, Germany, surely you can sort out something in St Kilda.
Geez, I've just connected the dots. The reason we couldn't get yesterday showed away it was so bad with the lie was because he used all your data on all of the adventures
know I was it I spent so much time I'm searching for a VPN that would get through to 10 play because I normally use Nord VPN VPN for people who don't know, I'm sure you do virtual private network, essentially, it's a way to be able to look like you're in a different country. And when you're in Germany, you can access Australian content like templates. So I'd used Nord VPN, which was still blocking the content. So I just signed up for Express VPN. And so now I can for those rare times where I want to watch Australian TV, I can watch it. So now you're in Poland? Yeah, what is what's Poland like I am so excited for being here is I'm in Krukow and I'd have to say we've we've only been here for maybe listen 12 hours but we we probably been he probably for about six hours but it has been so far my favorite place I'm going to call it that I we've been to in Europe Really? And yeah,
you're not a water guy? I mean, you're on the Mafi coast in a boat. Yes, swimming through the crystal blue waters of the Blue Grotto and now like a inland like water. don't like to sell
these things. Just let it just. Yeah, this is good. This has been It was probably 26 degrees. today. It was I you people will laugh at what I had for lunch for lunch. I had American barbecue and life's good. laughs really good in Europe.
Is that is that how they saw that the shop said we're selling American barbecue. Yeah, well, yeah.
So you it's a with staying at this, Airbnb. So one of the things about Krukow is the prices a so inexpensive, so it caught like we at 22 minute drive in an Uber from the airport cost us nine Australian dollars. We had a
for lunch, we had this the first time we've really had like non sort of European food and a lot of ways because we've just been eating so much like pizza past when we're in Munich, we went to be garden and did the whole sort of
bratwurst and stuff like that. But yeah, the the American barbecue like we we did like the two person like American barbecue type of thing. And it was
2025 Australian dollars for the two of us, which you would have paid in Australia, like 70 bucks. So that's not the only raises but every people say I like super nice is
like that. You
you you're warming up for your trip to America. There is one place you go into. That is probably the reason I go to Poland and you're going to Auschwitz. Yes, we've
booked Auschwitz going on Thursday. So we we did when we were in Munich, we did a bit of history type stuff, got to hear some pretty full on stories. And,
you know, we walked down to the straight where I don't know much about history, and also thinks I'm funny, really fascinating learning all this stuff. The time basically, Hitler was shot, you know, the time where you just went to jail, and all that sort of thing. We were like walking along the street where all that happened. And we did these big sort of propaganda speeches. But yeah, it's, it's an interesting one going, yes. Yeah,
I've got a question for you. It's, it's more thinking ahead. To what how you be acting at Auschwitz? Because I was I was in a conversation with a bunch of mates once Mo, talking about, like,
what do you do when you go to these places, because Auschwitz is one of those ones that, you know, you're very much respectful of, you know, the vibe, and what, what went on, it was very dark that, yeah, but at the same time, we're in this world, where, with everyone's documenting everything they do, and they want to, you know, take a photo, and then we started talking about two people actually take photos at Auschwitz and our people more so in the photos, like, I know, that people would probably just, you know, take sort of cinematic or, you know, really amazing looking photos of the landscapes and, and the surroundings. And so I went on to Instagram, and I typed in the hashtag Auschwitz and the location. And I went, and it's, and it's crazy people actually take photos of themselves at Auschwitz. But then we were talking about, what do you do? Do you smoke? What's the face that you do with these places? Because there's many of these kind of tourist attractions that had some pretty serious stuff go down, and they're probably you probably shouldn't be smiling. Yeah, at a photo in a photo at a place like Auschwitz. And they were they I looked at the hashtag and PayPal is smiling. He will have no clue, like, coupled up
so much. And I get, I can guess what you will do? But Is that a thing that's going through your mind you lab Nika. I don't have a respectful. I'm not gonna take photos. I don't think the like, I feel awkward in some situations, taking selfies anyway. But yeah, I think selfies in Auschwitz is should be enough. Like, even if you want, even if you want to get if you hundred percent. If you want to get a photo of yourself as some sort of, you know, memory for yourself. There might be connections within fair. Yeah, there's heaps of reasons why this place might be you might have in connection to it. I think, you know, a tasteful photo that's taken by someone else have you but I think that it's a pretty
Yeah, I wouldn't. I personally don't see the need to have a photo, a selfie, or even a photo of me there. I'm just there to absorb in line rather than, you know, use it
as a selfie. I want a full report, our reporter on the ground are people doing selfies, or just taking photos, they're building an appropriate there, you don't have to, you just need to tell me that I just love you to take a photo of the person take a photo, but that's probably just as disrespectful. Yeah,
man, I think that it's going to be it's one of those ones where it's like, you think about what the holidays are. And this is definitely a different type of to. So it's almost like I was when Brad and I were planning it. We're almost trying to plan it around like, okay, when like, this is gonna be a bit of an emotional heat. Where do we want this to sort of be, you know, answer the be perspective
shift or, you know, an opportunity to learn. So, um, yeah, it was, should be, should be an interesting, interesting guy.
It'll be sure Professor I did. I, I'd love to go. Yeah, absolutely. Love to. I've been listening to some podcasts at the moment with some people who have survived, you know, that that period of time Yeah. And, and it's, oh my god. Like, it's worth just having a listen to some of these people talking about, yeah, that period of time. And just what they went through. I heard one guy,
the way he survived the camp was he chose the job to work in the toilet, which was more of like, a bond with, you know, just drop toilets. So the reason he worked in there because it was warm from the humans coming in difficulty. And, and that's how he pretty much stayed alive. People. The gods didn't want to touch him, and the heat from the room
helped him stay alive. It's crazy. It's just I've got a pretty good Yeah, I'm just worried about being called at the moment that way. Yeah.
And it's the I wonder in these situations too. When I see the stories within history that we just can't fathom, I wonder what is going to be our version of that like is that we can look back at things that have happened in North Korea or that's happening in North Korea or different parts of the world where we say I can't believe because I can't think of a time like I can't put myself in that situation when you know then you know during war and during all of these you know crazy time so I do wonder about that as well yeah
I think there's not much that compares to that that part of history
at the moment but I don't know who knows what's been happening what have you been up to on the weekend might
it's just on the ground working just you know nothing that's what you say when you've actually been doing nothing yeah you know I'm I just something grabbing it going
just something grand
I have been thinking about I wanted to do this it's a benchmark that's been real that might be once or twice yeah
but it's it's what's the point I didn't I did you have a jingle to it that you might have now are you seeing in the jingle I think that the only jingle that has really stuck was life trap by real life trap
which which is probably as much as the singing idiot to that but no no jingle yet for what's the point but what is the what's the point what's what's today's what's the point and TJ
so I know I know this is a good one because you're the opposing side so you already know it but I thought we could just flesh it out yeah so in say I think it's in some videos I know in some movies especially on like news broadcasting they remove the number plate or they blur out the number plate of a car yeah right and so
I know I've been asked to do this even people are Can you just blow out the know play and my my thinking was what's and I literally said What's the fucking point of blurring out the number of plays on this stuff when and I'll just dish up my case for it because it's like I could think of some raisins but I'll let you dish out those as to why you should blurt out but if you can go down the street and look around and say cars everywhere and you can see the number five Will you driving you're driving down the street and this numbers pilots everywhere there's no point there's no need to really like unless the number plates like tonight weapon that's very recognizable that you didn't want people to just know what your car because it was so so recognizable this number five there's no point in blurring out number
Did you ever have a custom number Clyde? Especially during distribute eyes?
No. I thought about it I bought my friend one it was am a seven day and it looked like Mazda. Wow. And I bought it for he's 25th birthday
what a good friend. You are that nothing happy? I could I feel like because you're probably paying what you're paying 600 a month on on the BMW repayments when you when you were in your early 20s. So you probably didn't want the extra cost of the red joy I guess. Yeah, exactly. Yes. Don't know what's the point. Now I think that probably in a lot of these cases, it's it's a risk mitigation that would be my guests which is like sometimes if you're doing a your watch some YouTube videos where they've integrated with a brand so for instance, it might be that they're doing some sort of integration with a visa and visa might be really specific where you can't have individual other individuals faces on so you'd actually see blurred faces or maybe within the context of the number plates sort of thing I can see a bigger reason of especially if you're say you're renting a car and you're doing something you know you blow the number plate sorry that I can hurt to can't come back and say you know you were driving this car and appropriately your things like that but that's probably should answer I don't know what the point is. Yes. But I think this is this is and it's also like
just veering off people holding out newspapers yeah like that you know like back in the day it's like they still do that and there's no point in doing that is just
a white top it was like the guns
it for the weight loss for the weight loss thing and now you're guilty of it I haven't held an event
I prefer never held a newspaper I never have you just use the metadata and that if some if some soccer is
gonna be like yeah we know that he couldn't have been that fat that long like even people know that it's um, I have taken a fair few before photos though yeah so I'm guilty of it I've never never gotten to the after photo it's always been the before just sort of stop until you know you think it's going to give you this motivation but maybe in 2020 the photo
of you at you hit the nail on the head the metadata it's the same it's like I think people for overtime of just saying are now you blew out number plates are now you hold up newspapers and it's become this thing where you just people are doing it for the sake of it because everyone else does it but they haven't really thought too much about it
at this level that people like it because they think that it elevates what they do like I know that when I was I remember when I was in year 10 and I made a video
of all these kids in woodwork smashing would sort of like this my version of like a jackass video and I was going to put it up on YouTube and so I decided I'd go through and I below the uniform
logo and I think it was as much as maybe he knows a roof top dog like yeah, if sensitive guys, but that's going up online type of thing. But yeah,
maybe that's part of it as well. That's hilarious. So that was the grass the grass roots of blurring blurring. I mean you might have just you know, I've used it when I've worked out how to use it. Yeah, but it's more more for faces I get it for covering up faces and stuff I saw on the block Bianca Chatfield she had some old footage of her playing netball and they blew it out the sponsor that was on their nipples t shirts on the nipple singlet so interesting makes sense because their conflicting and Gemini may need to make their money through their own sponsors yeah so I get it when the site but I don't think there's much point these days of blurring out a number five in low in production. Yeah, high end I get it each covering your own. Yeah,
there's more. There's more. Hello. Yeah. Well, the on it. On another note, there's a little bit of a delay. And for people who don't know who haven't worked it out. Tommy is in St Kilda, Melbourne, Australia and I'm currently in Poland. I'm traveling for the next couple of months. And this is how we do the show, but we use FaceTime is our way of communicating. And then you and I Tommy and I record at a trek end. And then in post production, Tommy emails me his audio and I sync it up and then we we put it online. I TJ I was thinking about the the face target. Sounds easy. It sounds so easy. It's not as easy as that. Well, people can hear this a specific one where I feel like the delay is a little bit more than usual. But at least we can hear each other when we're in Munich. Or when I was in Munich. Yeah, yeah, you're getting half what I was saying. So there was a huge, huge monologues. But you know, how you what you were asking me before about Could I call you because you didn't because of the number issue? Yeah,
so you've had about seven different numbers Since you've been gone. So I've got all these texts, sermon, all these different numbers that I can't keep up and you call me on my phone, which means it didn't go off on my computer where I needed to. So yeah, I asked you to call me again. Well, it It reminded me of an incident that I had probably a year ago where I was calling Bray on FaceTime
because I don't know like I couldn't get I don't think I could get on to her for some reason. And so I'm like, I'm going to try face timing and I FaceTime to and it was calling and calling calling and then a guy and old dude in like a taxi anted brace fun. I couldn't believe Leave it. I freaked out. freaked out. I was like a first I was like, Is this some sort of prank his brain and Uber. And she's just handed the phone to the guy. And then I went into a bit of panic mode. And I'm like, classic messaging, do you? Could you imagine what's happened?
Well, I mean, you've got to know like to to FaceTime somebody, you've got to go on to their phone, and then you've got to click on to their number and then press face down. So
it's, it's, it would be hard to face time someone random. So I would be thinking aside
what I thought initially, I was like, have I clicked someone that's wrong, what had happened, it took me a bunch of research to work it out. But basically, when Brie and I had been in the US, we had added this, you know, when you get that notification on your Mac on the iPhone saying, Do you want to add this number to your face time you add it to your face, everything is that stays there. But then you get rid of the number and then someone else gets it. So what's happened is breeze number was in, like, on the contact section of that, look, the US number was in her contacts. And so when I FaceTime it face tight, like it being probably FaceTime in this dude, anytime that I face time to break, he would have gotten gotten a notification saying that I was calling Oh, so he's just who the Who is this? Yeah, yeah, I
wouldn't answer if I like it. I'm interested that he answered a video, FaceTime. Oh, I wouldn't if I was getting a video first time from a number I didn't know of other than a European number at the moment, because it's most likely you Yeah,
I wouldn't answer. And so what happened? What was the interaction is very short. I just sort of panicked and hung up pretty quickly that you took me a while to work out what was actually going on. And and so you just delayed that number, obviously,
exactly. Me fine. Yeah, I know that's going to recycle numbers. Yeah, but I didn't know that. Like how long between
actually cyphy finished my number. I've had my number since I was
since I was 14. I've had my the same phone number. So if I got rid of that and cancelled it, what how long does it take until they get news? I'm not sure I would say that it would be I mean, in the US my vibe ease that they must recycle very quickly, because I've multiple times gone to the state and had texts from people coming through saying, Hey, don't catch up like it and it's happened multiple times. So my feeling is that the US is maybe more prone to this sort of double up of numbers or getting a number that's just sort of being disconnected. But I feel like maybe it's, it's less likely in Australia, maybe we have a bit of a different system. When I went to Sydney for one of the first times as a 17 year old like a trip by myself. I'd been up there with family holidays and stuff but when I went up No, no, I was 18 or 19 and I was up there and I was like I'll call I'll call a spade a mom and color on the home phone Yeah,
so you know, tapped in and still remember the number do
you remember your home number nine, 700 458 for it's no longer that I think they used anymore solid.
And so I called I was in Sydney Nova Nancy farmer farmer and
answered I was like, bam. So know that are Who's this? Where's mom?
Because here in Sydney is still the same number. It just you you're going to put our three at the start. If you wanted to get through
this conversation. Like
you said, like To me,
it sounds like such a bad place. Mom. His mom. You'd be fucking baby. Yeah.
And then. No, she wasn't. She was a young girl. We got on. And I was like, Are you kidding me? You know what I've done? I realize as soon as I
got halfway through trying to ask where mom was
like, This is crazy. I've got this. I live in Melbourne and Sydney. And I've got the exact same number of you as you hackles their number by the way. Yeah,
this is a bit awkward. Yeah.
What happened there any other numbers that you remember? That little bit odd ball, right. I could. I can reel off a bunch. I probably won't because they might still exist. I'll do one as a good as a good promo. Mexican container and nary Warren and rebound copay. 03 if you're in Victoria 9796699 asked for Eric. Yeah,
try their beef tacos.
Say I had friends that I remember the numbers not restaurants. Very your friend.
Look. If we haven't heard about the relationship I had with Mexican Cantina. I loved Mexican Cantina so much. I started going. They started in I think was 1988 in dandy norm and then they probably I was born in 1990. Probably when I was about seven. So side 97 or something. They opened up in nary Warren we started going there. Maybe it was probably yet anyway, john f to get into specific. So they history. But I was. I went there from probably the age of seven. And I went there, Neely. I reckon. Every weekend, especially once. I turned it saying when I turned 18 for, you know, I would go religiously every single weekend. But yeah, it's one of those restaurants that was has been consistent in my life. So yeah, that's where we were. I was the I was the Facebook. I guess we've been there. But I I somehow ended up being the, the Facebook page manager, which I they've taken me off scenes. But I remember sort of maybe 2010 or something. It's not that long ago, something I used to go. But I remember saying hey, I think you should set up Facebook. And then I took photos for their website. And they basically paid me in food. So that bring out a big family size nachos. I'd take a couple of real dodgy photos with under the restaurant might and then pass it off to my bro and that would only do it was good fun. That's classic.
You're the big dog just a voice we get nachos let's go exactly right you got me Got me 50 mil
lens on a never shot. Never shot never shot food before you haven't like and Mexican. Let's be clear Tex Mex amateur photography. It's it was it was a great experience. But if you go to their website now I think they still use the photos. And you can see like the actually if you go to make seeking canteen and now their website and I think they've done like the great Photoshop job where they sort of cut out the corn chips on the top of the nachos. to sort of be a little bit of a transparent background. Too strong, strong look from them. Right. But it's your photo. Yeah, these are all my all my photos
you said. I think still being used. Yeah, for it easy. Yeah,
I should probably maybe I should have done some sort of royalties deal or some sort of refresh. Sorry, every single year I get one free sort of all you can eat type of deal. Well, wasn't
too bad. It was all right. The food was but I wouldn't go every weekend. I fucking I love that
place. But I before we go Munich hotel,
we we we spoke about this Yes, I was the episode that never made it to where because of the fucking delighting but
for people who don't know I didn't Insta story about it. But basically, I left a review about a manager at
about a hotel that we'd only just checked into. So I was basically in the situation where I was like, Am I going to bump in to this lady? Because I've said some pretty sort of harsh harsh words.
And guess what I had. And and you preempted? I think you would, it was it was from interaction to posting was on was very short. So it was before you David checked in. And so what's happened well, so I am I left a review which sort of just talked about how, how rude the person was. And the funny thing was that there was no she hadn't hadn't written back to me if you go to Google if you type in was a relaxer, ra l e x i hotel Munich, go into the Google reviews, you'll say that they haven't responded to any of the reviews except mine. Because I was able because I realized that this lady was just basically very short version of the story. A guy off basically, we we came in early 9am and said, We just want to leave our bags we realized were here too early. So and he he basically said, there's actually a room now. So if you just go to the side, we can just get you checked in. So we go to the side, then this lady, the manager
said, Hi, can I help you said I'll being looked after blah, blah, blah, she started checking the date house and said that will be 50 euros additional for being early check in. And that was when I said are no we we didn't want to be paying for. And she said well, that's the policy and was like really rude about it. And I basically in that moment turned to Bray, I said, I just can't believe this interaction that we're having right now. And she was just like, fuming. She was like this real sort of, like, really sort of the villain in a film basically really be guys and smiling and saying, well, that's just that policy type of thing. Any lie in that moment. I said to I said, What is your name? And she said, Excuse me. I said, What is your name? And she said, I Mrs. Blah, blah. Anyway, so I realized that she was none of the reviews had ever called her out by name. And they'd been a few of the rudest service that ever saved type of thing. And I think she must have been some sort of ex model because if I typed in her name, and she was in an old probably from the 90s, like an omo style ad, where she's sort of working at a hotel. How, and I'd like a resort talking about how she uses this cleaning products for all of her laundry
anyway, so he's an actor. Yeah, well, well, yeah. So she's, she's had had a bit of steam. So anyway, I am I called her out by name. And then this morning when we're checking out she said,
our room 504. I said, Yes. And she said, Mr. Johnson. I said yes. And she said, Mr. Josh Jansen, because that's what I put. I have Joshua on my on the reservation or whatever. But Josh Johnson is my username. And I said, Yes. And she said, was it was there anything else that I could help you with today? And I said, no, no. Then we walked off like so. It was a in that moment, I was nearly ready to tell her how much seminars all she was, but I just I let it go. My heart was beating God. I can imagine you had baiting. Yeah,
for some reason. This beads of sweat. Danny,
do you think she was trying to sort of get a rise out of you? Oh, absolutely. Why? She said she was trying to get a rise from the beginning it get what we signed crazy. Oh, yeah.
One of the things that Bray was thinking which we haven't heard yet but basically when we walked into the room that we had, it smelt like Wade so my vibe on it was I was like I wonder if she's sort of given us this room because there wasn't a torturous for all these people complaining about paying extra charges on their credit card for things where they're like you've you know, you've fact one of the sheets or done something. So there was a part of me which was waiting for an extra charge where she said that we're being smoking in a room which will be very, very funny if that was that oh, I
think she knows what kind of a review she'll get if if that if that cancer on the credit card. Yeah,
my word of the day. Should we give it a give it a quick judgment on it for a little while? Yeah, yeah,
I was just it was breaking out. It's just okay. The technology I don't know how. How much of a fan of the Poland
tells the system. The Internet system over there. Just called the pollens, Telstra Oh, you bet to say
that? Well, I think tomorrow I'm currently on the hotel Wi Fi but I might just try for Jay tomorrow. Because I do have a SIM card I'm trying to being tight on my dad or after using it all yesterday but embrace and she calls that no word of the day bemused, to not be amused means to be used bemused, always bemused,
blown away amused, is where I would take it. It was but now I don't know. sort of
close with the instantly the
puzzled confused or bewildered that's been used for you. It's an easy one. It was sort of a last minute Add, because I want to make sure we continue with this word of the day.
I was gonna say dumbfounded, similar. Next. stamped like something's just stupidly wrong. Yeah,
well, I think I could say that with this situation in Munich that was just completely bemused. It's probably a good
a good description if you come back talking like a pompous fact with
this line, new words. But we're just going to be clear, I think I'm just going to get at the standard where it's probably where I can articulate myself properly. But any, any other housekeeping what else is what else is happening, any other any other news and you want to leave the audience with I've gotta go
pick up my son from his little cart and give him a little bottle so my hands are full contents of housekeeping. Perfect.
I'm gonna go to bed. So it's 11pm and I'm I feel like I've been wide because of doing this show. Especially last night with the fact episode and then getting out Bianca's one and writing all the stuff I was like it's been one of those ones are being going to bed after midnight which is fine when you're on holidays but I just feel like I haven't even I'm on holiday is I'm not getting eight hours a day eight hours a night so I want to change that so there's a bit of a sleep update from JJ and
I'll bring you asleep up there tomorrow yeah
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