Dugongs & Nostalgic Computer Games

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 704.

Tommy: Happy Tuesday, guys! What's happening? What's going on?

Josh: How are you? Tuesday afternoon show. Yeah, uh, I actually— absolutely outrageous— I got myself a hot chocolate delivered.

Mason: Oh, oh yum!

Josh: Yeah. Oh, it's an Italian hot chocolate. This is the stuff that I used to get when I worked at the radio station. It's an Italian hot chocolate, so it's like a melted cup. I thought, how can— Bree's not going to be happy if I get chocolate delivered to home, but if it looks like a coffee— I have smuggled a block of chocolate in this. It's great. Seriously, hang on, can I try and— I'll try and show you for the people playing at home.

Tommy: Just get it on your top lip and show— it's like, have a sip and see how much sticks to your top lip. Because I think that's a good indication of how much choc he is in that. I'm just going—

George: Oh yeah, that's, that's quite—

Tommy: Oh my God, that looks like tomato soup.

Josh: It is literally— it's disgusting.

Derek: It is.

Tommy: What's the thought? What's the thinking behind that? Like, I felt fucking shit house that I got into some Anzac biscuits in the cupboard.

Josh: So I only had— so I, um, I had breakfast slash lunch. I had a smashed avo And I was like, you know what? Delivered?

Tommy: Delivered or you made it?

Josh: Yes, yeah, 3 bags full.

Tommy: Oh, you got it delivered?

Josh: Yeah. And so, Bree's saying it's gotta stop though.

Tommy: You haven't cooked in weeks, have you now?

Josh: It's been a while.

Tommy: It's gone, eh?

Josh: Well, we did the big cook. We cooked the beans and stuff. I did a huge batch and yeah, we didn't eat it. And so we're having to, we're piling like the equivalent of a kilo of beans and having to put them into the bin, which seems disgraceful. And so anyway, this is— I'm not doing dinner. I thought this will be a good pick-me-up for the show, and then I can sort of crash for the night.

Tommy: Yeah, great. So good. That's so— I mean, it's so selfish to Bree, but so kind to us. When you crash and you're emotional, Bree gets it.

Josh: But no, I won't get emotional. I'll just jump on the Monopoly or whatever. I'll have me iPad. Baby will get his iPad. We get some scrub time.

Tommy: I'm just saying we get the best version of you because you're just on that sugar high.

Josh: Casey says, I believe you mean brunch, JJ. Yeah, it was brunch. It was actually, it was after, it was as soon as we got off the, um, yeah, it was after Stace. We had Stace on. I can't get this cut back.

Tommy: Oh, I, I put curry in the microwave and I was thinking, just when you're thinking about something else and you're just in robot mode You know, you just sort of— I grabbed the curry out of the microwave and curry, uh, the lid was open. Curry gets hot as shit, dude. And it just flipped into my hand and went down onto the ground. It was in Tupperware, but hot curry pasty, like, you know, it was a Malaysian curry that stuck to my hand and just like sizzling away. And I had to just get it under the hot water. I'm glad though, 'cause if it was the other side of my hand, I'd be in trouble. But I feel like the inside of your hand there, minorly for it. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit rough, a little bit rough. So they, it's almost like it's taken the, it's a bit of leather. It's not too bad.

Josh: Have you seen, I don't know if Derek's, Derek did some Insta stories, but he's made this.

Tommy: I mean, to get merchandise without it even being confirmed on Sunday night and then all purchases closed off by Monday morning to then try and get merchandise rolled out the next couple of days is no small feat. And Derek, mate, I'm proud of this guy because we should give him— we should give the peeps an update, the Gronk Squad an update.

Josh: I'll give, um, let's give him Scooter a call. Okay, uh, because yeah, we do, we do have an update. Yeah, standby. Here we go, connecting. Oh, hang on, here we go.

Derek: Hello, Derek speaking.

Josh: Oh, g'day Derek. Why did you— you know what's happening, like, you know when I called that it's on the show?

Derek: Yeah, yeah, well, I do now, thank you.

Josh: Uh, so the boys haven't had a clear update. What's the latest when it comes to the merchandise?

Derek: Okay, so I've done some investigation, um But first I want to tell you about this time I went to a distillery.

Josh: No, no, no, not before I tell you about Rundle House. I've just muted you.

Tommy: Not before I tell you about a guy on a bus who bumped into another guy.

Josh: All right, I'm gonna— I've unmuted you, Scoop.

Derek: Okay, so I've gone down to do a subtle check.

Josh: Yeah.

Derek: On the, um, situation. And found that, um, the Gronk Squad t-shirts were printed and neatly in a pile.

Josh: Great.

Derek: Oh, and the timing was beautiful because they were just slapping the ink on and getting ready to do a test run of the main event—

Josh: the crewnecks.

Derek: The crewneck jumpers. How do they go? We would call them windcheaters in my day, but that was a brand, I think.

Josh: Wind cheaters. Wind cheaters.

Derek: Wind cheater.

Josh: Wind cheaters.

Tommy: Yeah, I used to— when they were getting those here, I thought they're the windproof ones.

George: Wind cheaters?

Derek: No. Well, when they were invented, there was a brand— I don't know what brand— but they called them wind cheater because it was like a t-shirt that was thicker, so therefore, and long sleeves. And it just— what everyone called a crew neck knit, whatever it is.

Josh: I definitely— I feel like that was something we all called them back in the day, but then we sort of Americanize everything and we move it on. I used to have a juice— it wasn't actually a windshirt, maybe it was a hoodie. I just saw a guy the other day with a yellow hoodie and I'm like, I had that exact same color.

Tommy: Junkie vibes.

Josh: Yeah, bright yellow. And so, um, how is it looking in person though?

Derek: I look wonderful. Um, It's obviously a workshop that's doing everything they can to still function in lockdown because it's an essential service, and so it was a bit difficult for me to do my usual probing, uh, investigative, uh, video journalism. But, uh, they— we did manage to, uh, shuffle everything around to let me in to take a tiny video of the first test.

Josh: It looks great. The blue looks spot on. I did troll you and say, hey mate, like, why did you pick that color? But yeah, no, it's, it's looking good. We appreciate it.

Tommy: And so, and, and the update is that they'll be completed by tomorrow morning, or what are we looking at?

Derek: They're done, they're done, done.

Josh: And so what we're going to do, so I spoke to DHL, I gave Sev the job, but his, um You know, because you're getting the show live, I guess.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that's all good. So what have you done?

Josh: So, and so I spoke to DHL. The deal is, so we will be getting— so we need to go to DHL, uh, to the depot. We need to take them. I need to find out the weight of the t-shirts and the jumpers. So there's a 2 kilo and a 5 kilo size. And so we'll be— we're going to be able to break even because we've We charge $20 a post and the 2 kilos $25 and the 5 kilos $30. And so it works out perfectly. Like we're gonna break it down.

Tommy: Have you factored in the Shopify costing?

Josh: The subscription? Maybe potentially. So basically we are, so a few people like Happy Harry who isn't in a DHL area, Oh no, he won't be. Um, it goes to a third party, and if it goes to a third party, we're fucked. If you, if you're in a third party area, there are a few— I've got a theory on— you can go, Scoot. Thanks so much for your help. Thanks, buddy.

George: Thanks, guys.

Mason: Um, thanks, mate.

Josh: Thanks.

Tommy: We'll catch up next time, mate. Sorry about that, ran out of the kids in the background.

Josh: So sorry about that, everyone. Um, no, uh, so I hate vNex too. In the comment, people talking about vNex.

George: No, don't worry about it.

Josh: Absolutely not. And so anyway, for most people, for 99% of people, we will send them, we'll go to the depot tomorrow. We need to write them out by hand. That's how we're saving money. So, we have to actually like fill out the forms rather than doing it online. And then if we do it, so using Grace as an example, who's in WA, If we send it out tomorrow, if we get it to the depot tomorrow before 5, she'll receive it Thursday afternoon.

Tommy: Wow, that's super quick, dude.

Derek: Yeah.

Tommy: That is really quick. So—

Josh: I checked with Emma as well. Emma's will make it by Thursday. So worst case, like you said—

George: Shannon's will make it as well.

Josh: Yeah, Shannon's will make it. So Friday, they'll, you know, there might be a little bit of the flow on. But if you are in regional Australia, Um, yeah, you're, uh, Grace says she's not confident. Why aren't you?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, we have been.

Mason: Definitely.

Josh: I want to get— so Lara's saying glass half full, Grace. I mean, we're paying the primo. If it doesn't get there, I'll be pissed. I'll get on the phone to DHL.

Tommy: Oh dude, this is a friend with logistics, has a business and shipping stuff, and He said it was a Friday afternoon and they'd lost track of this order and they found it and it was in the middle of Australia in the back in, in a truck. It's like the stress that comes from this shit. I mean, we just got a small order, to be honest. Yeah, but it's still like, you know, down to the wire. I love it.

George: Filming's an absolute nightmare.

Tommy: Yeah, it is. So where is the depot? And Port Melbourne.

Josh: We've just received a message from Hamish Blake saying that he's going to be joining us at 4:40. The question is—

Tommy: 4:40 PM?

Josh: Yeah, no, he's just said 4:40. I'll be— it will be close to the end. I'll get to see you guys even looser. He's meaning 4:40 AM. AM. This is—

George: oh, mate, that's the best.

Josh: Who is going with us? Isn't it embarrassing when Hamish comes on and it's literally us and two other viewers?

Tommy: I reckon hopefully people will get up for that. I like he come— he's trying to sort of send us out strong. 4:40 AM is going to be weird, but I'm glad he's a professional and knows how to handle a couple of us loosers.

Josh: And so the thing is, so I was thinking when I did the budgets, we got, uh, 50 orders. We can only really afford if we're sort of— if we charged $20 we can afford— $20— we can afford to about send 25 in the mail. The other ones around Melbourne, I think we should deliver so that we break even.

Tommy: Yeah, that'd be great. Can we do it on the Friday?

Josh: Well, you could do some on Friday, but I thought, um, Showbakers in Warrigal, which is far out, and she would hit the, um, the regional DHL doesn't support it, and so she wouldn't see it until the 8th of May if we sent it through DHL. So, so, Sevs, once I've spoken to my insurance company and we've got the all clear, are you okay to drive my i30 with me in the supervising seat and we'll go and drop it off to Showbaker?

George: That sounds great.

Derek: Yeah.

George: If you just sign off my little booklet just saying that I'm doing 2 hours.

Josh: I could chuck in a couple of extra hours for you. Now mate, it will take more than 2 hours. It will take us, yeah. Well, probably an hour and a half.

George: It was an hour 20. It was an hour 20. So yeah.

Tommy: With the Maccas stop, it's a 3 and a half hour round trip.

Josh: And the Maccas coffee is quite good. Lara says, I30, what a cute car. Yeah, Lara, it is a great car.

Mason: It is.

Josh: It's a really nice car.

Tommy: It's just a bit bigger than sort of— I just love the shape of your head, but leading into winter, the coldest month on the calendar. Crazy, bro.

Josh: But it's— what do you think? So with the beanie, I've sort of brought it up a little bit to give it that sort of Home Alone, uh, Robert Marv. That's exactly who I thought. Oh yeah, Home Alone Marv.

Derek: Marv.

Josh: You remember his name? Fududu, fududu, fududu.

Tommy: You know, when he puts his hand on the door.

George: And he has the, he has the hand gloves, the fingerless hand gloves.

Josh: Oh yeah, I could get some fingerless hand gloves. What other gloves can you have, Sevs, if they're not hand gloves? Don't know, they're just fingerless gloves.

Tommy: Fingerless gloves. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: Okay, how are you going, George? You've been pretty quiet.

Tommy: I'd like to say George's jacket looks like almost Michael Jackson-esque, you know, that shoulder of V8 supercar.

George: Oh, it's a Man United.

Mason: Oh.

Josh: Oh, here we go.

George: I didn't know you followed sports.

Josh: Oh, you look like an F1—

Tommy: All right. How much is a bank hero who works in the pits?

Josh: Yeah, you'd fit right in in Abbotsford. You just need to run quite quickly and have a sports bag and you look like you're ready for a hit.

Tommy: And be always in a packet.

Josh: You need to, don't you?

Tommy: Junkies always roll in twos.

Josh: And so, yeah, I like the look. It's a strong look. How are you going, George?

Mason: I was just cold this morning, to be honest. It was freezing.

George: Really?

Mason: That's fun. Yeah, look, I'm good. I'm just getting through, getting shit done, slightly busy, but pumped.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Great. I mean, it's good. The thing is you never hear a stress from the guy. He's got more edits than bloody, I don't know, something. There's no joke there, but he's got a lot of edits on.

Josh: There's a lot of, yeah, like in a full-time edit. Jake says Friday is predicted to be the coldest April day here in Melbourne in the last 24 years.

George: Glab inside.

Derek: Yeah.

Tommy: That's amazing. Oh, dude, I've got my heater next to me now. Like I'm rolling with a little panel heater downstairs. I'm never down here beyond 10:00 PM or before 5:00 AM. And at 5:00 AM, not much, but it's like, it's freezing in my downstairs. There's no heater. Like the way they built this house is they do a heater upstairs. And then I think they just think hopefully it comes downstairs. I don't know what they were thinking.

Josh: Would you do a fire? Would you get your fire going?

Tommy: I can definitely have a fire. No, it's fucking raining. That's so annoying.

Josh: Well, but surely there's a period. Can you not have the fire in the rain?

Tommy: Here's what I can do. I can set the fire ready to go and have it inside. It's just like you take the top off, right? Take the—

Josh: Sounds extremely annoying for your family, but go on.

Tommy: And then I could have in the garage. And so then when it's not raining, I can take it out, get it started. And, um, and then, yeah, I mean, I was out there on Saturday night sitting and it was starting to spit and it was okay. It's okay. So I can have my laptop and yeah, that's all good.

Josh: Um, so we're thinking of other people that we should have on the show. Uh, I'm very into— I don't know much about astronomy. Do you know much about astronomy, Seb?

George: Um, nah, not a lot, just like a few bits and pieces. Like, I, I find it super interesting, but I haven't really—

Tommy: Lots of names. Orion's Belt. What else we got?

George: Oh, well, I mean, it depends what you want.

Josh: If you're Southern Cross, yeah, solar system stuff.

George: So, well, it's more probably around like getting into like wormholes and that sort of stuff. That's the stuff that I find interesting.

Josh: Like, I got given—

George: I got like a, um, I got a book from— it must have been for Christmas, but it's from Interstellar, and it's got the physicist who helped on with the Interstellar movie, and he just goes and runs through all of the, um, scientific stuff behind it, which is pretty interesting.

Tommy: But I mean, yeah, the most excited I got was when I was young. I remember this night, it was like like going to be a, um, a meteor shower, which, you know, you hear about them, they see them, sort of— it looks amazing. It looks like some kind of reverse fireworks, you know, coming from the top.

Josh: Reverse fireworks?

Tommy: Reverse fireworks. Fireworks come from the ground up.

Josh: Oh, sick.

Tommy: And so this is just like coming, it's like just showering down these beautiful lights. Anyway, uh, got to the night, it was cloudy. The amount of times I've heard about something happening and gone out, yeah, cloudy, absolutely annoying. Definitely.

George: Or like the moon's meant to be massive and it's not.

Tommy: It's like, oh mate, the, um, in when I was in— where did I go to? Central Queensland, where I did an episode, JoJo, with you. I was on top of that water tank in, um, yeah, a lot of stars and stuff, dude. Oh my God, like unless you've been to those places without the— that have zero light pollution, you've— the star—

Josh: the—

Tommy: it is a different world. It's like, yeah, I don't know. Have you been somewhere where it's like so dark?

Josh: Central Australia camp and things like that with school. Yeah, that was good. But I feel like, um, there was also, there was also, um, I feel like in Colorado when Bri and I were there, there was like heaps of stars. But, um, so what I was thinking though is, do we know any gronks that have a telescope that they connect to their computer? Because what I'd like to do is to get them on Zoom, get them to share it, and we can go through different like stars and shit, or what constellations, and learn all about that type of thing.

Tommy: That'd be sick. I mean, we have to find— so the few caveats is location, proxy, like where you are in the world.

Josh: Well, you'd have to be— I can't know what you're saying, but maybe we could—

Tommy: cloudy and cold and raining on Friday. And so what about if it was—

Josh: so maybe it's middle of the day for us, but then somewhere dark. Yeah, in like Europe.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely somewhere where the— where it's clear skies in the world.

Josh: And so they need to have a telescope and they just need to be able to connect it via USB. I'm sure we could even go onto YouTube and find people who do this and then reach out and say, hey, would you sort of— how do you— how would you feel about some, uh, some bands?

Tommy: Yeah, surely the quality of banter will be— I mean, I love experts who just, you know, geek out in this shit.

Mason: What about Brian Cox?

Tommy: Oh, he's so great.

Josh: Who's Brian Cox?

George: He's a, he's like a scientist. He's like, he's an astronomer.

Josh: Oh, is he the one with the cool hair?

Mason: He's like the new Stephen Hawking.

Josh: Is he the one that's like a singer as well on the side?

George: I don't think he sings.

Josh: Does he look like he's in a band? Has he got sort of like a big fringe?

George: He could be. Yeah, he could be in a band.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's great.

George: Yeah, yeah, he's, he's so— yeah, he's got a bunch of like TV shows and stuff that he's narrated and, and starred in. But yeah, he's awesome. He's also been on Joe Rogan a few times.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, we just need any gronk with a telescope that can connect it and in a location. It's quite specific, to be honest. If it was— yeah, I mean, if we could— if we had more, uh, if we—

Josh: if, if it wasn't cloudy.

Derek: Yeah.

Josh: I'd love to buy a telescope so I could do it again.

Tommy: I want to do something with the sky and it's fucking cloudy again. Absolute outrage I have.

Josh: Yeah, it's slightly annoying.

Tommy: Um, George, what are you—

Josh: you're going—

Tommy: sorry, go, George.

Josh: Yeah, I was literally just going to ask George if he had any thoughts on, uh, what other sort of experts or people we should be having on.

Mason: Um, hmm. I have to come back to you.

Josh: He's editing.

Tommy: He's actually editing right now.

Josh: He's editing, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: He's written experts into Google and he's trying to pull up experts.

Josh: What about your mum? We talked about your mum coming on and doing like a book read.

Mason: Yeah, she could do, she could read something. She wanted to read, she was asking me like, what should I read? And I was like, I don't know, just something. Maybe like a funny, she wanted to read a Donald Trump poem.

Josh: Oh yeah, what's it?

Tommy: Wait, so he's written poems? Holy shit.

Mason: I don't know if they're legit or if it's like a joke book, but apparently there's some poems which are just hilarious, either from him or someone's made them up.

Tommy: It's called his Twitter fat. That's it. They're all cryptic.

Mason: Or a bedtime storey for when it gets late, maybe just before Hamish. She can.

Josh: That'd be good.

Mason: I mean, that'll put us to sleep a bit.

Josh: We could maybe some sort of, maybe if she has a copy of that Sum book about the afterlife, you know, storeys from the afterlife. I feel like that at like 2 AM would be a bit of a head fuck.

Mason: Like horror stories.

Josh: Oh, horror stories. Goosebumps. I never, I owned a lot of Goosebumps, never read them.

Tommy: Mate, take it, turn around. It's the same thing right now with your bookshelf. They look good though. So I pay, like, they're all the cool, cool covers.

Josh: Um, Oliver sent through a photo of him. He's done the old buzz, the buzz cut.

Mason: Oh, nice.

Josh: It looks great. He's asking whether I really shaved my head. Yeah, I did shave my head. It's all, it's all gone. All gone.

Tommy: Um, is there anything, did you discover anything? Because there's always a lot of talk about the folliculitis.

Josh: And so it's definitely like a little red, and so I'd like to improve that. And so I'm going to, um, get some tea tree oil and really, really work it. I wanna, I feel like I can do a lot with it.

George: It looked pretty great to be honest. Like the scalp health wasn't actually that bad.

Josh: Like, yeah, but I just think that it wouldn't be good just to have a great quality head.

Tommy: You legit have gone bald, right? Like you've cut that so short that it's bald, right?

Josh: Yeah. Well, I didn't plan that. The funny thing is Scooter calls me, like when I spoke to Scooter earlier, he's like, okay, be honest with me. I said, okay. He's like, how much of you shaving your head was just for attention?

Tommy: And that's when you started crying, right?

Josh: And no, the thing is, this is what it's upsetting. I didn't do it for attention. I did it because I want to do it.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Do you think I did it for attention? I do a lot of shit for attention.

Mason: If you did it for attention, you would have done it on the show. So yeah, I think it's—

Tommy: you, um, I'm still same effect. He nearly did it. I think you've been thinking about it a lot. I remember when I was wanting to cut, uh, when I was growing my hair, you just think about it a lot if your hair's not in a good place.

Josh: I've been obsessed with shaving my head.

Tommy: I've done it.

Josh: He gave like the whole thing. It's like, how much of like— would you shave your head, TJ?

Tommy: No, absolutely not.

Derek: Why?

Tommy: No, I— because I look like a fuckwit. My hair— like, my head's not made for it. I shaved it once when I was 20, 21, 22. I had it shaved as a kid a heap. I mean, it's— you can like—

Josh: do you think I look like a fuckwit?

Tommy: I thought I didn't mind the hair that you had. I quite like it.

Josh: Well, this is the thing, is that— yes, there's nothing else. I reckon if I could choose you with one, I'd have you with hair.

Tommy: I want a business partner with hair. That's what I want.

Josh: This is the thing, I said this to Seb, so I gotta get lean because he can't, he's happy to have one, but he doesn't want a fat and bald business partner. He's gotta pick one. But this is the thing, isn't it weird? As someone who likes to be a people pleaser, I am so fascinated by the amount of people who have a vested interest in my hair. And not only that, the amount of like, oh, like, you know, the reaction that I never get that on Instagram. It's like the mouth open, like, and they don't write it. It's just, I think George did a bit of that. George might have done a— but that was to the—

Mason: I did, yeah, to the photo of the hair on the ground.

Josh: I got a lot of that where it's like, what, how do I interpret if someone does a mouth open?

Mason: I want I replied with the, just the clap to your bald head.

Josh: Was that you feeling bad about the mouth open?

Mason: I didn't know what to write. I didn't want, like, I want, yeah, so I just did that. But it's funny, you like not say anything.

Tommy: Did you like my post about what's he shaved, his back or his head?

Josh: Yeah, Jake says there's nothing wrong with being fat and bald. I actually agree, Jake. I could lean right into it. My dad's fat and bald. It's a, it's a look.

Tommy: But it's absolutely nothing wrong, Jake. There's an internal joke. It's not an internal joke. Josh once accused me of thinking that I was thinking that I don't want a fat business partner, which—

Josh: well, he wouldn't let me in whatever I wanted.

Tommy: I'd never thought that sentence in my life, nor have I thought that I don't want a fat and bald business partner.

Josh: So anyway, who do you think is more likely out of this group Who do you think is more likely to sort of shave or go bald eventually? George?

Mason: Go bald?

George: Yeah.

Mason: You know, I actually got strict instructions last night. I'm not allowed to shave my head bald.

Josh: Is this— fuck, is this after Hannah saw me? This is your— what an absolute— go on. You can never look like Josh. Like Josh Ashton.

Mason: Because it looks good on you. It wouldn't look good on me. I got like, I just, you know, I've got my brows are too big. My head's a bit weird shape. It wouldn't, you know, it wouldn't work.

Tommy: Is it a, cause I feel like you're calculated, Josh. Is this an ongoing thing? It's just, hi, I'm Josh Janson. I'm a shaved head guy. Is that it?

Josh: Well, so the thing is, so being, what's Jake saying? Ooh, no fat business partner. Totally fair enough. Play on. No, so I think when it comes to the shaved head thing, I think that it's going to be better with age. So whilst we look at it now and it's a bit silly, by the time I'm 40 and there's a bit of tan on my head and I've fucking leaned out and I'm just at the beach and we've just got one of those, what's the—

George: Vortex.

Josh: Vortex.

George: You've got a real obsession with those. I remember it would have been maybe a couple of months ago that you wanted me to— we wanted to do it— you wanted me to do a shirtless shoot throwing one.

Josh: Yeah, I think the obsession's with you getting your top off, mate, to be honest. I just know it's the only way I can get a photo of him because he's not interested otherwise.

Tommy: No, it's, um, yeah, it is fascinating though how much our identity is wrapped up in how we look visually.

Josh: And that's part of the pushback, which is like I had this realisation where I was like I'm actually loving— there's something very space age about it. It's like, you know what, like this is— I just removed something. I know I liked it. I felt really good about myself after it. I was just like, fuck yeah.

Tommy: It was the hangups I had about having cold sores when I was younger. They completely destroyed me. And I think that people who are going slightly bald and then they cut it, there's a liberation there. It's like, whatever. I'm not saying that's for you. I don't know if you're going.

Mason: Yeah, he did a good video about it.

Tommy: Oh, that was so good. That was so good. It's awesome. I don't know, own it. Doesn't really fucking matter. People get over them. 2 days. 2 days. 2 days. 2 days.

Josh: Everyone's saying they think that I'm trying to look like Seth Godin.

Tommy: That is quite funny.

Josh: It was just because I posted a video of him a couple of hours before.

Tommy: And no, you haven't looked Godin style.

Josh: Casey says Truthless is the best. Get him on again. We should— we'll try and see if we can get him on for the 24-hour stream.

Tommy: Yeah, we'd love him. Um, just on some, uh, some other light news, because big, big news was your head shaving. Um, mate, so the government are paying out $100 million to wildlife attractions around Australia just based on coronavirus, and not, you know, they can't let people go and see them. Like, you think about, um, the, like, zoos and stuff. Tiger King, like, the amount it cost to feed the tigers. I hadn't even thought, like, the connection to Australia and how much it's costing to keep these things going. Mate, do you know what a dugong is?

Josh: Oh yeah, it's a small elephant, I believe, underwater.

Tommy: I think if you were nude in the water right now, you'd slightly look like one.

Josh: Josh, this is hurtful. I don't want to do it.

Tommy: Yeah.

Mason: Was that just a long setup for that joke? Yeah, I know.

Josh: I've been doing this. He's fattening me up for months just so he could make that.

Tommy: No, no, no, it just caught my attention today. So dugongs, they eat lettuce. Little pricks, that's all they eat, lettuce. Have a guess how much it costs per year to feed a dugong.

George: Oh my God, it would—

Josh: it would be like $100,000 a year.

George: It eats so many grammes of lettuce.

Tommy: 20 tonnes of lettuce a year a dugong eats, and it costs $50 grand per dugong just in lettuce bill. Geez, that's crazy.

Mason: Iceberg?

Tommy: Mate, they only eat iceberg.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: No baby spinach?

Josh: No one wants to put in that much spinach.

George: No kale, nothing.

Mason: Rocket?

Tommy: Absolutely.

Josh: Yeah, they hate rocket.

Tommy: I think there's no better—

Josh: Don't dare try and give them coriander, they'll lose their minds.

George: Absolutely not.

Derek: Yeah.

Tommy: Albino dugongs. Oh my God, it does look like you don't. No, it's fine, it's fine.

George: Um, they're like little vacuum cleaners as well. Like, their little, their little mouth on the floor, it's like a little suction thing.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: How are you— Lee is asking, TJ, how are you across, uh, dugong facts?

Tommy: Oh man, I'm just hearing it. I just heard it once. I wrote— I actually wrote a, um, I did a project on a dugong. I remember them because their nickname is sea cow. Or is that a manatee? Sea cow? No, no, sea cow. I think it's a sea cow. Yeah, I did a little project back in the day, Leah. And then, you know, I've always had sort of my ear to the ground on the dugong, you know, world. Anyway, I thought I'd just, you know, you know me, as soon as I can work out what someone's net worth is, what their house is worth, how much money they're spending on food, you know I'm interested. So, uh, you're gone.

George: Is it— is a manatee a dugong?

Tommy: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to work out.

George: Same thing? They look like the same thing.

Tommy: They do. Yeah, they do.

Josh: George, what do you think?

George: They look pretty similar.

Mason: I haven't looked them up.

George: They're weird little animals, aren't they?

Tommy: Absolute weird animal.

George: They're like this thing that's been on the surface and they've just mixed in with a dolphin.

Josh: And so I look— I haven't actually looked it up yet. Am I gonna— I'll look it up. So you're saying I'm not gonna be dugong?

Tommy: No, it's not. It's just your head shape. You're not gonna be— It's your head shape. That's just— no, just like, just this. They're basically like— they look like—

Josh: oh my goodness.

Tommy: They look like just soft all over.

George: It's not—

Josh: oh no, it's not good. What does that look like with it? When I had hair, did I just look like you gone with hair? It's a nightmare. One of them looks okay. Um, the— do you remember, was it Encarta, or what was the, um, the software where you could search for, um, like, um, all the facts?

Tommy: Yeah, I think Encarta 95 or something like that. It was, um, or what was the— what was the books that they used to— there used to be door-to-door salespeople that were selling Encyclopedia Encyclopedias, the gold Britannica. Britannica, was that it?

Josh: Britannica, yeah, yeah. The, um, there was an Australian— do you remember there was a, there was an Australian edition? And because I just remember I did a school project on the sugar glider, and, um, I just remember clicking through, uh, it flies. Yeah, oh no, it glides.

George: It sounds like a bat.

Josh: Yeah, I know, it's more of a possum. It's more of a possum that slides from memory.

George: I've seen that.

Josh: Encyclopedia— sorry, fuck. Encyclopedia Britannica memes, says Casey. Is she referring to memories or memes?

George: I think it's— no, I think it's like she's memories. Memories are like such a good—

Tommy: yeah, yeah, Encyclopedia Britannica. Yeah, mate, that was— because that was it, JJ. That was like— I mean, these two, you wouldn't have grown up in a time where there was no internet. George, I mean, you're a bit older.

Mason: How old are you, George? Nah, 26.

Tommy: Nah, there was, um, we had encyclopaedias and stuff, but you know, your mom does own a bookstore, so it's a bit different. But yeah, the time where you couldn't just search Google for whatever. Yeah, like how much does a dugong eat worth of lettuce? You can't find that shit.

Josh: There'd be a book, right? You'd go on the Dewey system or whatever and you'd fucking find it that way.

George: Yeah, definitely.

Mason: But I lived in a time where we had floppy disks.

Josh: Oh, do you remember the digital cameras with the floppy disks? It was like a big square. I remember like SRC had one, so you know, taking sort of photos in our blazers.

Tommy: Jake has said, do you remember Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?

Josh: That's fucking great. That was so good. Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?

Tommy: What's that?

Josh: So she was She had a red sort of trench coat and it's— So I got into this last week. So over on the weekend, you can search any of these games and type in gameplay into YouTube and you can watch it and you can hear it. I was watching Duke Nukem: Time to Kill from like the old PlayStation or whatever. There's, you know, yeah, the Wolfenstein, but yeah, Wolfenstein 3D.

Tommy: Wolfenstein, yeah.

Derek: Yeah.

Josh: That was great. Mother Goose is another good one. But yeah, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? That was the first, um, or The Magic School Bus. And then that was—

George: School Bus.

Josh: Yeah, that's good.

Tommy: And then what about early days, like Lemmings? I don't remember Lemmings, or is that— maybe it was like my brother. It was these little things that like you, you, you dig through and drop down and like go over and you have to build these like little Oh, it's just this 2D game. It was sick. Look it up though. It's interesting to watch. It's actually quite addictive. I sometimes find myself watching. So these games on Instagram, like the app, apps that you can download, really, like they do these little sort of screen captures of a scene in the game, but I'm so into them. I just sometimes looking at them and it's like trying to sort of let water down into one compartment and then drown. And then I don't know, but I just find myself watching them. Non-stop.

Josh: There was a series of ones my mum got into. I think it was called Bloobs or Blurbs. I think it was Bloobs, and it was this, um, this app where you sort of had to go and shoot these little things. Like, it was sort of this— it was a strange game, but I just remember she'd spend hours. Like, it was almost a thing. Like, even if you— if your family weren't gamers, you would end up playing. It's almost like solitaire or whatever. Like, there's certain games for non-gamers.

George: What was, what was the app you were talking about?

Josh: I think it was Bloobs. B-L-O-O-B-S. What are you shooting?

George: Did you say you were shooting something?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, Bloobs, I guess. No, they were like this, um— why are you asking, Seb? I feel like you're setting me up.

George: No, no, no, I'm not saying— I'm just trying to— I'm just, I just want to know what it is.

Josh: So, well, let's look it up. Bloobs.

Mason: Yeah, they're like little balloons or something.

Tommy: Are you sure you don't mean the ball?

George: Oh, fuck yes!

Josh: Look on it, everyone, type in Bloobs now onto YouTube. And so yeah, Bloobs Windows game 2000.

Tommy: This was B-L-O-O-B.

Josh: Yeah, this was sick. Hang on, let's see if I can, um, actually no, I won't try and bring it up, but search it. It was so much fun. So you'd shoot these things And, um, I would play it for hours.

Tommy: I didn't have that. What about this? There was one where—

George: and I loved Icy Towers.

Tommy: Yeah, that's a similar version. That was good, Seb's, but that was— we were—

Derek: you would—

Tommy: that would have been your version of the games we're talking about.

George: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: But you would have had an idea, JJ. Do you remember this aeroplane game?

Josh: They were, they were like, um, not aeroplane, like, uh, paper aeroplanes, and you'd send this thing and you'd Oh, so I remember there was a, there was an iPhone version of whatever that game is where it like you had to try and keep it all like going up. Copter. That was good, wasn't it?

Mason: Loved that game.

Josh: Yeah, I wonder what—

Tommy: oh my God, Glider Pro. Glider Pro. It was Macintosh 1994.

Josh: This is good. I mean, the thing is that what I was going to say is, Seb, you are young enough that you, if if you'd watched Noddy, you would have had like the 3D— remember there was like Noddy, Noddy, Noddy, the little Noddy.

Mason: Yeah, a little beanie.

Josh: Yeah, I said look like Noddy.

Tommy: Nah, nah.

Josh: Do you remember?

George: No, he's too old, TJ.

Tommy: Uh, yeah, I remember Noddy, but, um, Rory's just said the ski game with the Yeti thing. Yeah, I remember that ski game.

Josh: Oh, there was a sick ski game on PlayStation. It was just like, it was snow— like, sorry, snowboarding. That was, that was great.

Tommy: Oh yes. Oh my God, this is bringing back so many memories. Um, so all you need to do is— Ski Free was the, the name. There's a guy who's got a YouTube channel called Nostalgia Nerd. He's got 306,000 subscribers. And I think a lot of them are just like screen captures using a real golf— oh, remember the golf game?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, this—

Josh: well, there was also, um, Grand Prix. We got F1 on PC, and we even had the, um, the whole steering wheel stuff as well.

George: Oh, um, I think, I think one of the earliest games that I played was on one of my dad's work laptops. Angry Birds? No, no, yeah, it was, um It was on the iPhone. Zoo Tycoon.

Josh: What's that?

George: It's like you ended up building your own zoos, so you have to like build cages and stuff, and then you're like buying animals, and they had a bunch of them.

Tommy: Did your parents ever have a rear projection television?

George: Uh, so are they the ones with the box out the end? Yeah, yeah, we have one in the back, so it's You did?

Tommy: I can imagine you got— I see, I reckon we had one of those. I just feel like you're a family that had a rear projection and ended out on the front lawn at some point.

George: Oh, absolutely, that's exactly what happened.

Josh: Yeah, they were outdated.

Tommy: So yeah, they were— I mean, there was such a time before the next one, so when rear projection then into plasmas or something, but it was a long time between, so they just— all of them got binned.

Josh: But do you remember, um, there was a Lego game as well which was really good. Also things where it's like, um, The Simpsons, all these different sort of franchises would have their own games. Every mate's got a friend that's obsessed with this, like a family that's obsessed with The Simpsons. Ours were the Woolgars. They had everything Simpsons.

Tommy: Dude, Roar, I'm sending you Roar now.

Mason: What about slime games?

Tommy: Roar is just like, yeah.

Mason: What sort of slime games? Slime games, just like these little Little like semicircle guys and you, and you, it's like 2D, play soccer, volleyball. I used to play that in primary school, loved it.

Tommy: Yeah, the, um, mate, I mean, I'm in heaven. I could— I haven't thought about these things in so long. Isn't, isn't your mind weird?

Josh: We said it at the same time.

Derek: What?

Josh: No, literally we said at the same time.

George: Um, no, no, TJ actually got in first.

Josh: Yeah, I think because of the two eyes. Oh, Worms. Yeah, obviously all the sort of the Nokia—

Mason: that's a good one—

Josh: stuff. The, um, what was that? Zoom beanies.

George: Zoom beanies. I've never heard of it.

Josh: Yeah, on Bodhi, what is he going to get into?

Tommy: Yeah, what's he— what— no, what is he going to think? What's what's his version of this shit? Like, imagine being born in 2016 onward, like even 2020. Imagine being born this year.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, the thing is, I remember these games looking really good because I was like, oh, maybe I just need an emulator. I don't need a PS4, I'll just get like an emulator that can play PS2 games. And then I actually watched like Duke Nukem and stuff. I was like, it is so shit. Like, you, you don't even have to fire, you don't have to have any accurate accuracy to kill anyone. You just have to hit the gun and it will just like kill them.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: It's crazy what, like, even back then, like, um, the shit we're watching, like, we— it was definitely like you end up going to a strippers and I remember all of this stuff. It's pretty crazy. Are kids playing games? Like, I feel like now that there's internet, they're too busy TikToking and being VSCO girls on Instagram. Are they actually—

Mason: Isn't that why they made them free? Like, isn't, isn't, um, like the new COD, it's free, you can just get it? Is it? And Fortnite, isn't that the whole idea?

Josh: It's a business model.

Mason: I don't think you can buy— You can in, in game purchases or something.

Josh: Uh, sure.

Tommy: I don't know, I don't play games, but that's why I watched, um, I watched a Travis Scott, uh, live performance within Fortnite. It wasn't him really. Oh yeah, you built out this ridiculous visuals of Travis Scott rapping like his Astroworld album. It's ridiculous. And there's a, there's some gamer, there's some Aussie gamer who's got 11 million subscribers. Do you know who this guy is? He's ginormous. No, but they're just jumping around in this Fortnite game looking— I saw like people that don't even game were posting it, then I jumped on and I was like, it's a full experience. Like the developers of Fortnite had built out this ridiculous sort of scene on a map, game on a map, blew your mind. If you like Travis Scott, you watch it. If you don't like Travis Scott or you don't like Fortnite Don't watch it.

Mason: Anyway, the doco was pretty good, I thought.

Josh: What was the doco?

Derek: What?

Mason: The Travis Scott doco. I mean, yeah, it's not very—

Josh: I don't even know who Travis Scott is.

Tommy: Yeah, no, no, um, I was thinking about that. Travis Scott, you— if you, if you don't know him, watch the doco. You might just respect him.

Josh: What's it?

Tommy: A little bit for his live performance. He's, he's, he's got a— yes, he's a rapper and he produces music, and he's got a kid with Kylie Jenner. Okay, which might be a connection for you, JJ.

Josh: Yeah, that's, that's a good bit of goss. Do people know that?

Tommy: Other than that, he's one of the biggest rappers in the world.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Um, but that's, that's, that's another, that's another point. Um, I'm gonna pick up my son.

Josh: All right, this was fun. I enjoyed this, everyone.

George: Could we play, could we play any of these games on the 24-hour stream? Could we have a gaming hour?

Josh: Yeah, we could use like emulators or whatever, like so it's actually on the PC. I'm sure that we have some geeks that could hook that up and so we'd be able to—

Tommy: Somebody do it for us and we just watch it and commentate.

Josh: Yeah, there's even Mac emulators and like, sorry, like emulators on Macs, so you guys could even install it on your iMacs and do that. That would be fun. I never got into it. Charles is just saying, uh, play Wii. I never— I wasn't a Wii family, we didn't have a Wii. But I did have the— I still have it. I've got the Game Boy. I've got the Game Boy that's got the, um, the camera that was like one of my first ever digital cameras. It's like a selfie cam. Oh yeah, such shit quality.

Tommy: Plug it in.

Derek: Was it—

Josh: it's like a cartridge, like you just put it in the back and then it's on there.

Tommy: Ridiculous. God, memory lane, boys. Memory lane.

George: Clash of Clans.

Josh: Uh, it's a daily talk show. If you've got suggestions for what we should do on the 24-hour live stream, please hit us up on the WhatsApp. I'm writing them all down. Um, I did— we, we had a, we had a couple of suggestions.

Tommy: Uh, do you know what I want? While, um, Leah McClellan's here, I would like to ask her to devise some kind of game because she is the, uh, what was she, um, uh, something fun? It was, um, organised fun, or, um, remember how she had that structured fun?

Josh: Structured fun.

Tommy: I was thinking as it gets into the wee hours of the morning in the 24-hour live stream, we could pull out a Liam McClellan game, bit of structured fun. What do you think?

Josh: Yeah, I think that would be great.

Mason: Sounds so good.

Josh: Gemma's saying about the, um, can't play the music because of the, uh, licensing. Thank you, Gemma. Yeah, I think we could get away with it without the— I feel like it's pretty low level if we— if it's, it's not taking up the full screen, maybe. Yeah, but, um, uh, but we're not gonna—

Mason: we're not gonna be playing music during when we're on the show.

George: The key—

Josh: yeah, yeah, that'd be nice. Julia suggested DIY haircuts. This is before I got my haircut. Would you— she was suggesting getting your initials like TJ, uh, shaved into your head.

Tommy: Once I got like something shaved into my beard, it was sick on radio. But I mean, it required a professional hairdresser. To come in and hit me up.

Josh: If you want to get— for the people asking about the WhatsApp, you just need to sign up thedailytalkshow.com/gronks. You fill that in and then you become a VIP Gronk, and then I add you to the WhatsApp. But, um, Alex suggested truth or dare, could get risky.

Tommy: Yeah, bro.

Josh: Yeah, Ryan said TikToks, so we could do, um— I definitely like the idea of regular TikToks. But he also suggested, um, makeup with, um, Queen Gronkh products. We could, um, sort of finish, finish off with some makeup. I like the idea of it's just like by the end of it, um, just look like an absolute mess. Yeah, it'd be fun. All right, that's a Daily Talk Show. See you, uh, tomorrow morning, everyone. Have a good one. See ya.

Tommy: See you guys.