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Episode 60436:29

Festivals & Making Dorodangos

We chat about last night's St Kilda Festival, going to a festival as a team, making Dorodangos, and we get an update on the Adventure Club.

Show Notes

–An apology
–Last night's St Kilda Festival
–Boomers
–Going to festivals as a team
–Getting into Dorodangos
–Minerals, elements and their worth
–Mr. 97's new quote
–The Adventure Club update

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Josh revised his stance on festivals after St Kilda Festival, concluding crowds are fine as long as people are spread out rather than densely packed.
  • –Old Melbourne taxi licences reportedly cost around $500,000 historically versus about $69 now, tied to migration-by-investment schemes explained by a taxi driver.
  • –A dorodango is a Japanese art form where mud and water are moulded into a smooth, shiny sphere resembling a billiard ball; Josh wants to try making one and needs mud sourced.
  • –The hosts are planning to lean into festivals as content for the show, including a possible overnight camping festival with an outside broadcast setup.
  • –Adventure Club (teased for the 29th) will require a bike or similar transport, with more details to be drip-fed before Rob Ward appears on the show that week.

Questions this episode answers

What is a dorodango?

Josh describes it as a Japanese art form in which earth and water are moulded to create a delicate, shiny sphere resembling a billiard ball, essentially a polished mud ball.

What did Tommy and Josh do at St Kilda Festival?

They attended St Kilda Festival, drank apple cider and beer on the grass, took a shoulder-ride photo together, caught an old-school taxi home with a Dutch driver who explained historical taxi licence costs, and were recognised by a fan named Carlin who is building a tiny house.

What book is The Daily Talk Show's book club reading and what's the target?

The book club is reading 'You're Not Listening' by Kate Murphy; listeners were told to be at page 50 already and were pushed to reach page 100 by Friday, with something 'big' planned for the book club around then.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

0:03

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 604.

0:07

Tommy: Happy Monday. What's going on, guys? What's happening?

0:09

Josh: Want to, uh, do a formal apology.

0:12

Tommy: Who to? I mean, what's— the list is long. Where are we starting?

0:16

Josh: We're starting with festivals.

0:18

Tommy: What's— I mean, there's only one because you've only ever been to one festival.

0:23

Josh: No, I think I've probably gone to other festivals.

0:26

Tommy: Street festivals, like Johnson Street Festival you went to, made a video once. Any others?

0:31

Josh: Uh, Brunswick Street Festival, Halloween festival thing that we went to.

0:34

Tommy: Halloween. We should apologize, apologise for our shitty outfits.

0:38

Josh: Yeah, no, so I, um, yesterday I was, um, pretty negative towards festivals.

0:44

Tommy: Uh, yeah, I mean, you was— you'd gone down the spiral and we needed to shake it out of you.

0:52

Josh: And so I— some of my assumptions around festivals, a lot of people, correct. Yeah.

0:58

Tommy: Correct assumption.

0:59

Josh: But when it's a lot of people in a whole suburb.

1:03

Mason: Yeah. Yeah.

1:03

Josh: It's not a problem if people are spread out. It's all good.

1:06

Tommy: Yeah.

1:07

Josh: And so, yeah, we went to St Kilda Festival yesterday. Yeah.

1:11

Tommy: Dad's making his apology. It's quite funny. We had a moment where we were sitting on the grass drinking a cider and a beer, and Dad was drinking cider. I was drinking beer and We just thought it'd be— it's so funny that it's like Tommy dragging Josh along to these things. We just had this moment where I was like, he would never invite—

1:33

Josh: if we were just like mates going to a festival, if he was like, I'm going to go to a festival, who should I call?

1:38

Tommy: Let me find out. Let me call JJ, we're gonna go wild.

1:42

Josh: And I had a feeling that he was sort of a little bit worried about bumping into old mates and then having to explain me. But apple cider, first time I've ever had an apple cider.

1:52

Tommy: That was really—

1:53

Josh: Yeah, delicious.

1:54

Mason: Oh, you like it?

1:54

Josh: Soda. It's like apple juice.

1:57

Tommy: I mean, Mr. 97 had it. Of course he didn't like it.

2:01

Josh: Was it apple juice?

2:02

Tommy: Fuck no, the one that you had was like apple. It's like sunshine. It was exactly the same, but just yours was sweeter. So Mr. 97 had a drier one, which means that the dry ones aren't as sweet. I like the dry ones a bit more because it tastes slightly better. It doesn't smell like a lolly. Yeah, I don't want to be feeling like I'm drinking a lolly.

2:21

Josh: Yeah, I get it.

2:21

Tommy: Is it having a lollipop if I want a lolly?

2:24

Josh: And so it was, um, it was, it was a good night.

2:26

Tommy: No, it was a great night.

2:27

Josh: What was your highlight?

2:31

Tommy: Uh, just a good vibe.

2:32

Josh: Like, I've had better St Kilda festivals, to be honest, but just because of me.

2:42

Tommy: No, no, just in terms of I've gone harder. And so I felt like there was a— it's funny, like, I don't know if it's the mood I'm in. Amy asked me, what was your highlight too? I was like, I don't really have one. It's like a highlight assumes that there was a real peak, like it was the high light of the hot— of something of like, you know, it has to be this thing that was like exceptionally greater than the other experience at the place.

3:08

Josh: Yeah.

3:08

Tommy: What was your highlight?

3:09

Josh: Going on your shoulders was a highlight.

3:12

Tommy: That was fun. That was fun.

3:13

Josh: But not a highlight.

3:15

Tommy: It was heavy as fuck for me, dude.

3:16

Josh: I was really worried for you.

3:18

Tommy: I was like, I was looking up when I was on your shoulders.

3:21

Josh: I was, when I was turning around, I was looking for a medic, you know, for you.

3:25

Tommy: We did an ironic photo of Josh on my shoulders, like just basic festival.

3:30

Josh: But you wanted to do it again.

3:31

Mason: You can see it on Instagram.

3:32

Tommy: Yeah, it's on Instagram. But I wanted to do it, but I felt like I had some kind of like shattering shaky machine on top of me. Like, you're— I could feel your muscles, like, trying to hold on. Like, and I was like, fucking, this is unnecessary for you to be doing this, dude. I got you. It was like you had no trust in my—

3:51

Josh: It's like being on a motorbike.

3:54

Tommy: You let the motorbike just take you, dude. So you don't shake.

3:57

Josh: But when you're a passenger on a motorbike, I feel like I've— the criticism for people who have ridden motorbikes with me on the back. Yeah. Which has been a few years. But it's like, hey, JJ, you can like loosen your legs because I would go real— I'd like basically lock in.

4:14

Tommy: You've nailed it because you need to go with it. You need to just vibe it. Like you can't, you can't be resisting turning the corner, you know, like, oh, I don't want to fall over. And so no, it was really— it was an interesting moment for me because I was like, something's shaking on me. I had your legs and it was just okay though.

4:31

Josh: It was a good photo.

4:34

Tommy: It was a great photo. Yeah, I absolutely love this. That's my highlight, guys. The same as yours.

4:36

Josh: The taxi driver was nice too.

4:38

Tommy: Oh yeah, we, I mean, that was old school. We never catch cabs. Yeah. And so this was an OG experience with a nice old Dutchman.

4:46

Josh: Yeah, it's telling us about the old licenses, how they worked.

4:49

Tommy: Mate, you paid $500,000 for a licence back in the day. You buy that same licence now for $69. That's fucked.

4:58

Josh: Are you looking something up, Seb, like you don't believe it?

5:00

Tommy: No, I remember years ago them talking about the But it made no sense. I was like, what do you mean? But then he started to tell us that people from other countries would come over and the family would put money together and then they would buy a licence in Australia, bring $500,000 into the economy, and then they could bring their whole family over. They can migrate their family.

5:20

Josh: It's like citizenship by investment, which has a bunch of places around the world that do it.

5:25

Tommy: You can do it in America if you inject enough money into the economy or you put enough money into a bank account and say that I am actually going to be here.

5:33

Josh: And the idea is you end up paying cash— sorry, taxes.

5:36

Tommy: Yeah. So it makes sense. It makes sense. We were speaking to someone last night, a manager of a music band. And there's one of those moments where I think everyone experiences these when you're in a conversation and you either go down the path of nodding and saying yes, like, you know, when they ask you something, whether you might know or might not know, you know, it's like, and so you end up I was speaking to Craig Harper about this. I think we all do it. It's like someone references a movie and you say, yeah, yeah, you don't want to slow the flow down, so you agree or you say you've seen something, or you just— it's a little white lie.

6:17

Josh: Yeah, and definitely there's a, um, I try and do that less, and potentially I see how that didn't look respectful or didn't look great from my side of things.

6:30

Tommy: Yesterday, I think you did fine, bro. It was more just I observed it because I know I've been thinking about it too. Like the moments where I decide in a split second whether to say, just nod along. It's not even like you're— it's not like you're entering the lights. Like I just— it's actually irrelevant if I've seen them in this moment.

6:48

Josh: I was honest. You did. And so I said—

6:50

Tommy: You're honest.

6:50

Josh: So the manager of the artist, I guess there's probably a feeling that you should pretend like you know who the artist is. And so I had this conversation before the artist arrived. You could see because I wasn't necessarily— because I was being honest and being like, ah, yeah, no, I don't, don't know that much about them, to be honest. Um, and then I was sort of asking basic questions like, oh, like how many people are in the group and all that sort of thing. And so you could see that the manager was getting slightly concerned, but little did he know that whilst I was looking at— what did you just drop, by the way?

7:30

Tommy: Water.

7:30

Josh: Why do you always do Can you put your water somewhere else?

7:32

Tommy: Because I don't like to have it on the table like a drunk.

7:34

Josh: I prefer that rather than the— But the feeling of it falling on my feet annoys me. Anyway, what he didn't realise is I was, whilst I was being extremely honest there, I was pretending to know way more about some Tasmania festival that they were also involved in. So, you've got to pick your battles. But no, so there was a bit of a panic where it's like, well, you know, you know, they're— their name, don't you? And I was like, oh yeah, it's this. And so I think I did a good job in the end of delivering. But you definitely— I saw the panic.

8:07

Tommy: Yeah, I know. So funny. There was a lot of boomers just knocking about because of Icehouse. Yeah, it's that demo.

8:15

Josh: What's Icehouse's biggest hit?

8:18

Tommy: Not sure. I mean, well before my time. They played the main stage and they did really well. Like just an old rock Just a rock band. But the boomer thing, I feel like, um, I feel like the— do you think it's offensive to call someone a boomer?

8:37

Josh: Um, I think potentially because of the whole 'okay boomer' thing, you can't say boomer anymore.

8:43

Tommy: Well, kid— who was saying it? Someone was saying that they're a boomer and they were saying their kid just kept saying it.

8:50

Josh: Okay boomer. Yeah, yeah.

8:52

Tommy: I feel like I've been thinking about the sort of Sting that the term boomer would have on somebody. Because it's like, you can't do anything about your age and when you're born. And now you get a little young brat telling you that you're a boomer because you don't get it. Which is like, so there's so much truth to being called a boomer, right? And so—

9:13

Josh: Well, it's triggering.

9:14

Tommy: I was thinking the connection to something where I felt triggered in the past in primary school was when I was called a skinner.

9:23

Josh: What's a skinner?

9:24

Tommy: A skinner is like a skinhead. No, a skinner.

9:28

Josh: Oh, no pubic hair.

9:30

Tommy: Like, it's— so who would say you're a skinner is someone who's gone through puberty, maybe a grade 6 when you're a grade 3, and they call you a skinner. You didn't want to be called a skinner. I remember, I remember. But it's so—

9:43

Josh: do you remember when you got pubes?

9:46

Tommy: Uh, It was probably 3 weeks ago. No, no, no, I don't know, grade 6 into year 7, definitely around that time, 6 to year 7 really sort of started. But don't you reckon, like, you get— so this, the being called a skinner by someone who isn't a skinner, there's not much you can't deny it.

10:05

Josh: You're like, oh, you can't. I mean, how does— how do they know that you're a skinner?

10:09

Tommy: Well, they don't need to know because if you are actually one it's gonna burn.

10:14

Josh: Yeah, sure.

10:15

Tommy: And that's what I mean, the connection between being called a skinner as a kid and a boomer as an adult. Like, it's—

10:21

Josh: well, I feel like a true boomer wouldn't, uh, wouldn't be annoyed. Like, I think if I said to my dad, like, okay, boomer, he'd be like, yeah, I am.

10:31

Mason: Mm. But that's because he doesn't get it.

10:33

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. Because I'm already true form of a boomer. And also, when you get back, can you look up The like sort of—

10:41

Mason: By the way, a skinner is also someone who has foreskin. Just open dictionary.

10:46

Josh: There's a lot of foreskin chat this, this last few weeks. Hi to BK who's live watching us on the live stream from New York.

10:56

Tommy: Kathleen saw us walking down the street yesterday. She beeped. You guys looked, you look really something. Confused.

11:02

Mason: Happy.

11:03

Tommy: Really happy.

11:04

Mason: Yeah, she said.

11:05

Josh: Oh, that's nice. I wonder where—

11:06

Tommy: that's nice. Where were you? What suburb?

11:09

Josh: I'm trying to think of when would it have been. Uh, in St Kilda, it must have been. We had, uh, it must have been maybe like post the event. I felt very happy.

11:19

Tommy: A guy named Carlin came up to us and said hello at the St Kilda Festival.

11:22

Josh: How good was that? I said to TJ, I'm like, it's 400,000 people going through this festival. If one person doesn't know us, we've failed. We need to— we need more cut-through. We ended up— and Carlin did. Carlin's— and we ended up— and this is the thing.

11:40

Mason: Did you get a photo?

11:42

Josh: Nah, too arrogant.

11:43

Tommy: It's presumptuous.

11:44

Josh: Yeah, just being like, hey, Carlin, mate, I know what you want. I know you want a selfie.

11:50

Tommy: Did you mean for ourselves?

11:51

Josh: Why would we want a photo of Carlin? No, I actually would have had a photo with him.

11:57

Tommy: I follow him on Instagram now.

11:58

Josh: Yeah, so do I. I think I followed him first.

12:00

Tommy: Oh, all right, boomer.

12:02

Josh: Okay, boomer. Um, but no, he's, um, Carlin's working on tiny houses. Yeah, doing his own tiny house.

12:10

Mason: Oh great.

12:10

Josh: I feel like you could get behind a tiny house.

12:12

Mason: Yeah, they're the ones in like shipping containers and stuff, right?

12:15

Tommy: Well, it's a small one that could be a tiny house.

12:18

Mason: Yeah, yeah, they're cool.

12:19

Josh: Could be all different types of things, but you need to do some hand—

12:22

Tommy: like labor. How are you with like labor?

12:24

Josh: Can you start chewing that, please?

12:26

Tommy: If you've been chewing that whole—

12:27

Josh: fuckin'— he's been chewing that.

12:28

Tommy: Don't shout at me again.

12:30

Josh: You've got a, um, Starburst lollipop stick.

12:33

Tommy: How do you know that, boomer?

12:35

Josh: Because yellow, that is the Starburst yellow.

12:37

Mason: Yeah, it's a good pickup.

12:39

Tommy: Yeah, it is.

12:40

Josh: It was, wasn't it?

12:41

Tommy: Yeah, it was really—

12:41

Josh: I remember when Starburst brought out the lollipops.

12:43

Tommy: It was grape flavour too. Really?

12:47

Mason: Yeah.

12:47

Josh: Yum.

12:47

Tommy: It was really nice.

12:48

Josh: Isaac says hi.

12:49

Tommy: Bodhi and I shared.

12:50

Josh: Really? You shared a lollipop?

12:52

Tommy: Yeah, we shared the lollipop.

12:54

Josh: Okay. Why?

12:55

Tommy: Do you share lollipops?

12:56

Josh: No, I definitely don't. Um, they're not really a sharing thing, to be honest. No, it's like chewing gum.

13:01

Tommy: Yeah, but you— it's your son.

13:04

Josh: No, he's not. I know what you mean though, he's your son.

13:08

Tommy: I feel like there's no— there's nothing like— I've wiped the kid's ass, I've got shit on me, he's spewed on me, like he's everything. It's like, it doesn't— like, I'm more connected to him than my wife. Like, to be honest, we're blood. Like, we're— yeah, I haven't had to yet.

13:25

Josh: Or the, um, on the festival thing We're talking about, um, leaning into festivals. What do we think about that?

13:35

Tommy: Who?

13:36

Josh: Yeah, the Daily Talk Show, us, the boys.

13:39

Tommy: Well, Sev's yes, because that's his thing for this year.

13:42

Mason: Uh, what sort of festivals?

13:44

Josh: All festivals. So what I was thinking, it was happening because I was on a bit of a high because I had a, um, two-siders. Yeah, two-siders and a Um, Harry says, what is Bodhi? What if Bodhi has, uh, the coronavirus? Corona? I wouldn't share lollipops. That's a good point. I mean, there's a lot of the colds. You probably— if he's got a cold, you wouldn't want to either. Yeah, if you're sick at all, you don't want to share.

14:09

Tommy: But you don't want to kiss your, your wife, your partner, anytime they're sick. I once, I once, um, didn't kiss this girl who came and picked me up and dropped me home. She was just being lovely. We're texting. She came and picked me up and we drive home and she mentioned she was sick. I could tell, like, as soon as someone mentions they're sick, they're just like— you start noticing, like, you just— I was just like, well, I'm just noticing it. And then I got back out the front of my place, I was like, see ya, gave her a kiss.

14:38

Josh: Oh, you did? Should I hear you?

14:40

Tommy: On the cheek though, or something. She was furious.

14:44

Josh: That was just on the cheek?

14:45

Tommy: Furious.

14:46

Josh: What did she say?

14:47

Tommy: She's texting me like, can't believe that. And then like called me. It was like, I was like, oh dude, you're too much. Not again.

14:54

Josh: I didn't say anyone.

14:55

Tommy: That's a bit much. Like angry, angry at me that I didn't.

14:58

Josh: I want someone to be— hi, hi, Gem. Uh, Gem K Watts has joined the live stream. I want someone to be angry that I don't kiss them.

15:05

Tommy: No, but it was—

15:06

Josh: yeah.

15:06

Tommy: And the hard bit is it's at the time where you're— that kind of shit.

15:10

Josh: Like, your phone's too close to your nuts, by the way.

15:12

Mason: Okay, but you should worry about a sperm. Well, what are you worried about? Sperm count?

15:16

Josh: Mine's fine, dude.

15:17

Mason: I've got too much, to be honest.

15:17

Tommy: Yeah.

15:19

Josh: No, I think it's not good in any way. I would just wouldn't do it. Just have it there. It's no different.

15:23

Tommy: Like, it's, it keeps vibrating. Someone keeps calling me that same number.

15:28

Mason: Okay.

15:28

Tommy: Keeps calling me. Anyway, I don't want your electrical services.

15:32

Josh: Um, so the festival—

15:35

Mason: I was— I've gone on Eventbrite and looked a few up.

15:37

Josh: Oh yeah, what's that?

15:39

Mason: There's an inflatable regatta.

15:41

Josh: Yeah, that's done by Courtney Carthy, who is, um—

15:44

Mason: $70 for entry.

15:45

Tommy: Where, where is it?

15:46

Josh: It's insurance. It costs a bunch. It's at the, um, But what is it, Seb?

15:52

Mason: Well, you float down a river on inflatables.

15:55

Josh: Where is it though? Inflatables where?

15:59

Mason: Maribyrnong.

16:01

Tommy: Oh yeah, so you go down the Maribyrnong River on inflatables.

16:04

Josh: No, it's, um, it's the Yarra River.

16:07

Tommy: That's not the Yarra River, it's the Maribyrnong River. You know in Footscray, when you drive in from Footscray into the city, you cross over that river.

16:14

Josh: I don't know.

16:15

Tommy: That's Maribyrnong River.

16:16

Josh: What's it— where—

16:16

Tommy: Maribyrnong River runs along the, um, inflatable Festival Regatta 2020, Maribyrnong River.

16:22

Josh: Yeah, can you look up previous years? Because I have a feeling they normally do it at the Yarra River.

16:26

Tommy: You don't need to do one with him. There's like, we can do our own one. We can do our own one.

16:31

Josh: Our own festival, you mean?

16:32

Tommy: No, what that is. So he's just found something relating to a festival, but there's plenty of festivals is what I'm saying. He's just like, now you're getting bogged down on what river it is and fucking all that shit. It's like No, I just got excited.

16:47

Josh: I know, I got excited. No, it is a festival. What's a regatta? What's the definition of a regatta?

16:53

Tommy: It's like a race.

16:54

Mason: It's like the same thing as rowing regattas.

16:56

Josh: Yeah.

16:58

Mason: And they just have a bunch of rowing races.

17:00

Josh: Yeah, to be honest, the regatta bit—

17:02

Tommy: racing's too much.

17:03

Josh: It means a race. Um, so festivals, what would you like to see us go to?

17:07

Mason: Series of boat races, by the way.

17:09

Josh: Thank you.

17:10

Tommy: Uh, I mean, we should— it would be worth doing one of the camping ones. So there's like Meredith. Oh, can you find out when Meredith is?

17:18

Mason: No, no, camping's too much.

17:19

Tommy: Why?

17:20

Mason: Because then I have to worry about skin cancer.

17:22

Tommy: What do you—

17:23

Josh: why?

17:24

Mason: Because they're not— you're in, you're in like a dusty environment where you're camping, and then you have to put sunscreen on, and you have to wear hats, and you're out in the sun all day.

17:32

Josh: Just wear a long sleeve.

17:33

Mason: Okay, I actually couldn't think of anything. I couldn't think of anything worse than doing that.

17:37

Tommy: So I guess you sit in the sun.

17:40

Mason: No, you stand up in the sun.

17:42

Josh: Do you have an issue with the sun? Like, do you really think you've got an issue with the sun, mate?

17:46

Mason: If I'm out there for 8 hours, yeah, definitely.

17:49

Josh: What about Burning Man?

17:51

Mason: No, but you're in the US, so the sun's not as strong, so you can get away with a tiny bit less sunscreen.

17:57

Tommy: God, do we gotta go to Norway? I don't want this guy at the fucking festival with me.

17:59

Josh: It's not very—

18:01

Tommy: we gotta fly back to LA.

18:02

Mason: What about water and food?

18:04

Josh: You take it with you, you know, then you have to cook it. Oh, water and food. Okay, I know what you're saying.

18:09

Mason: What are you holding, a drink bottle the whole time?

18:12

Tommy: Gosh, 8 hours. So I drove—

18:14

Josh: what's 8 hours?

18:15

Mason: 8 hours.

18:16

Tommy: For 8 hours, I drove a busload of people to Meredith Music Festival.

18:21

Josh: How much did they pay you?

18:22

Tommy: Uh, $250 cash, including the bus each way.

18:25

Josh: Cash.

18:26

Tommy: I took the bus. I didn't— the bus was there when I just rocked up. Jumped in the bus, drove. It was like a minibus, probably 15 seats.

18:32

Josh: What was the deal with insurance?

18:35

Tommy: It was just under my name.

18:37

Josh: Like from a Thrifty or something?

18:39

Tommy: Yeah. So I had to give my driver's licence over.

18:41

Josh: So, uh, $500 in total?

18:45

Tommy: Yeah, I think it was. And then I, uh, which was great, like cash.

18:51

Josh: Why do you keep saying it like that?

18:52

Tommy: Because it's not as good if it was through the books. Yeah, sure.

18:56

Josh: Yeah. And so what do you reckon you paid on the— for the bus?

18:59

Tommy: I don't know, it wasn't my problem. I just said I'll drive. I didn't fucking have anything to do with it other than I'll rock up. I said— I texted him my licence and I said I'll be there.

19:09

Josh: That's good.

19:09

Tommy: And so I rocked up, but I drove them all there. And Meredith Music Festival was sick because they— people go all out. Like, they create these camp zones, like, within these trees. It's so good. Like, PK has a truckload of like fake turf, little palm trees, like all these sort of decorations and like builds out this area. And it's not just in the sun. You get there early to get a good spot. And it's on a cool property.

19:38

Josh: And then one criticism of that is it's more than a day. I think there could be something like that. The idea of sleeping overnight somewhere.

19:45

Tommy: It's fun.

19:46

Josh: It creates a bunch of issues. But yeah, I think we could do at least one sleepover. This year. But I would, I would like for us to, um, to pick some festivals and for us to— because we saw, um, Tim Lee from a distance, uh, doing the— at the Fox tent from the radio. Yeah. And so it would be nice if we could do our own outside broadcast from a festival.

20:09

Tommy: We could just go to a festival where you can camp, where you're doing the camping thing, and do our own show.

20:13

Josh: Yeah. What did we— what would we do about tents?

20:17

Tommy: You get one, buy one, they're cheap as shit.

20:19

Josh: All right.

20:19

Tommy: Just buy one.

20:21

Mason: Yeah.

20:21

Tommy: So anyway, it's not that appealing to go with you two, to be honest. Like when your attitude stinks.

20:28

Josh: That's not good for us either. So I'm going to get into dorodangos.

20:35

Tommy: I like the word. I have no idea what a dorodango is.

20:38

Josh: Have a guess.

20:39

Tommy: A dorodango.

20:40

Josh: I'm going to start making them.

20:43

Tommy: I don't know. A dorodango. I saw a— have you got a photo?

20:50

Josh: Justin said, uh, Great Southern Land is Icehouse. Great song. Great Southern Land.

20:55

Tommy: That's great, mate. It's one of the—

20:57

Josh: yeah. So a dorodango, what do you think it is? Dorodango.

21:00

Tommy: If you're going to make it, I'm just trying to think of what you're capable of making. It's definitely not like— you don't need that much weaving. It's like something to do with paper. I don't know, all the things I'm thinking of you wouldn't have the patience for. You'd get all the shit out and put it around the house and then you wouldn't do it.

21:16

Josh: That's rude.

21:18

Tommy: Um, what is a dorodango? Tell me.

21:19

Josh: It's a mud dumpling.

21:21

Tommy: A mud dumpling? I still don't get it. Edible?

21:25

Josh: Like a dumpling? No, no, no, no. Geez, you're stupid. It's a Japanese art form in which earth and water are moulded to create a delicate shiny sphere resembling a billiard ball.

21:39

Tommy: Okay.

21:39

Mason: It's a shiny mud ball.

21:42

Josh: What do you think?

21:44

Tommy: How'd you come across a dorodango? Did I say it right?

21:47

Josh: I think so. Um, I saw around, these are all the different ones you can—

21:51

Tommy: They're cute little dar— I mean, what do you think? They look like chocolates.

21:56

Josh: Yeah, look at that one. I want to get this book.

21:58

Tommy: There's some weird shit in the world, isn't there? And so this is, um, how do you set them? They look like, I mean, ceramics. When in primary school.

22:05

Josh: Seb, can you look at the process of making a dorodango in written form that you can read out?

22:10

Tommy: I mean, you're really going to have to go exploring to get some.

22:13

Josh: Well, see, it's just mud.

22:14

Tommy: Yeah, but you got to go. Where are you getting mud from? You don't own it. You're not in the house. Like, I could get mud in my backyard.

22:20

Josh: I bet you there's places where I could actually, I could do a call out here and say, if you have mud and you're in Victoria, let me know and I'll come and get it.

22:28

Tommy: You can't get mud without asking. Like, think about You go somewhere with— yeah, like down the sort of Abbotsford area and just like dig it up. It's a really— it's an interesting thing.

22:38

Josh: Would you get around it with me?

22:39

Tommy: No, not really. I watched, um, Logan Paul, uh, he made a YouTube video. Oh, so I went down a rabbit hole of these guys who, um, are from this town, Idaho, somewhere. There's a river that runs through it and they have like scuba gear and they just search the river for uh, treasure, and they find guns and fucking all sorts of random shit, like phones, iWatch, you know, Apple Watches. Okay, dude, so much shit.

23:07

Josh: Calling it an iWatch is a real boomer.

23:09

Tommy: And then I, and then I saw that Logan Paul and this channel did a collaboration, and they went, they went searching for crystals. Like, you know when you go into a hippie store? It's probably in Byron Bay. And you know, there'd be a lot of them there. And you see like this big sort of— it's on a big— you could see it on a big table and they're like purple crystals and they, they look like sort of sharp bits. And I was— I'd never thought in my life, where the fuck are they from? Where do you find those?

23:36

Josh: What's New?

23:38

Tommy: Yeah, you got it. Yeah, you're right. What's New is a store. Yeah. They're in dirt.

23:44

Josh: They're like—

23:45

Tommy: they like excavate out and then they sort of like chip away. It's sort of clay-looking rock.

23:50

Josh: So the crystals are more exciting when you think about what they are.

23:54

Tommy: What are they?

23:55

Josh: Well, they're in the ground. It's not something that's just like man-made.

23:58

Tommy: Yeah, like phenomenal. And so the idea is you can't— you don't want to break it up. Like, the bigger they are, the more expensive. And if you can pull them away, the more sort of like tips on them, the more expensive, like the more peaks and sharp bits, sort of like. So they look like they're, you know, multi-leveled.

24:14

Josh: Why are diamonds so expensive? Compared to crystals?

24:18

Tommy: A lot more rare.

24:20

Josh: Is that what it is? Is it just rarity?

24:22

Tommy: Well, what's the— hey, I mean, the bigger question is how has it become expensive? Expensive.

24:28

Josh: A cubic zirconia, that was sort of the classic— me, when I was growing up, that you'd get sort of your girlfriend something nice from Breville's.

24:37

Tommy: Bevels?

24:37

Josh: Breville's. Bevels.

24:39

Tommy: Bevels Jewelers.

24:40

Mason: Breville's the, um, Breville's toasting machine.

24:42

Josh: Yeah, you're right.

24:44

Mason: Crystals are found more easily than diamonds.

24:48

Tommy: Crystals are, yeah, we knew that. It still doesn't explain.

24:51

Mason: So that's why. Well, because there's, there's low supply of diamonds and they're harder to find.

24:55

Josh: Is that really the reason?

24:56

Mason: Well, think about it.

24:57

Tommy: But then it's what you can do with it.

24:59

Josh: Think about it. You've got Google though.

25:00

Tommy: But then it's what you can do with them. They're probably stronger.

25:03

Josh: Yeah, sure. I reckon stronger. You can cut things with diamonds.

25:07

Tommy: I know what you mean. It's a basic way of asking the question. It's a bigger question that you're asking.

25:12

Josh: Yeah, it's not, not just asking how's the worth become Like gold.

25:15

Tommy: How does the world— how, how did we find— we find this mineral, whatever they are.

25:21

Josh: Like, what is gold? Is it a mineral?

25:23

Tommy: Is it a mineral? We find this thing, element.

25:26

Mason: It's an element.

25:26

Tommy: We find this element, 79. We find this element and then we start placing a value to it as a society. Culturally, we start thinking, because if you just— it's like money, right? It's only the worth of what we think it is, and therefore it is.

25:41

Josh: Definitely. Uh, 97's actually— he's getting a, um, a quote on his, um—

25:47

Tommy: what are you getting?

25:48

Josh: So he's, um— I, I said something today and he loved it so much what I said that as a constant reminder he's getting like a basic— we're thinking about putting it on a crystal actually.

26:00

Tommy: What, um, what are you getting? What's the quote?

26:03

Josh: So it's gonna be printed, is that what you're thinking?

26:07

Mason: Potentially. I've set up a nice Notion page. Okay, I'll show you after, but it's got like the banner, it's got a crystal, and then it's got like a moon book.

26:15

Josh: And so I basically came up with a quote for him as a reminder on how he needs to approach work.

26:23

Tommy: Do you want this quote? Sorry, just, just that he's—

26:27

Mason: I don't know if it fits who I am, but I'm, I'm happy to adopt it. Don't wait for a full moon to charge your crystals.

26:38

Josh: So the idea is sometimes he waits for things to be perfect and all in line before he does them.

26:43

Tommy: Don't wait for things to be perfect. How about that one? It's less ambiguity than—

26:48

Josh: but also the crystal visuals, like he can actually—

26:51

Mason: there's something funny about the crystal stuff.

26:53

Josh: Yeah, I think it's something still. I think that he needs a big crystal on his desk with that, and then it always will get people's— like, he'll always remember And anytime we're talking about crystals, he'll always be thinking about it anyway. But will you, um, will you at least help me find some mud for the dango?

27:13

Tommy: Yeah, I feel like I'll end up doing it and, and being the one that you're like, no, no, no, I don't want to touch.

27:19

Josh: I'll get pissed off if you do it. Like, I want to— it's more, um, just fine, like something that we could all do, uh Okay, we're gonna be a part of the Adventure Club.

27:29

Tommy: We'll look into it, we'll look into it.

27:32

Josh: How is, um, how's the Adventure Club stuff going?

27:35

Tommy: Details coming this week, but I don't want to get— I messaged you today because it's like one of those things I think people who message me— I messaged you and said listen to the radio, which I never fucking do. Oh yeah, listen to the radio. The woman who wrote the book that you have for book club, Kate Murphy, is that her name?

27:52

Mason: Yeah.

27:53

Tommy: Is going to be on the radio. And so it was a serendipitous moment. I thought you needed to listen to it.

27:59

Josh: It was good.

27:59

Tommy: And somehow you found it streaming, streamed it online.

28:02

Josh: Yeah.

28:03

Tommy: Um, yeah, sort of bring that up. I thought you were going to do something today. You told everyone yesterday to read to chapter 50. Uh, read to—

28:13

Mason: yeah, you're on page 50.

28:15

Tommy: Yeah, I was helping. I was guiding you into like a segue into it.

28:19

Josh: Yeah, but I was just segueing into your Adventure Club first.

28:23

Tommy: Oh, but no, yours is already going. Mine's—

28:25

Josh: I told you, I just don't want it to get halfway through the year and you haven't done anything.

28:28

Tommy: We've got the date, it's coming this week. I told you there's gonna be—

28:32

Mason: Is it this week?

28:32

Tommy: No, no, no, it's at the end of this month, but I told you there's more details. So when is it?

28:36

Josh: When? When? The 29th. It's on a Saturday.

28:38

Mason: Okay, 29th.

28:39

Josh: I need to be going to, um, Persian for dinner with Jordan Michaelides on the 29th. Lauren? Yes. Ah, but I can do during the day.

28:48

Tommy: That's fun. I don't need your time during the night.

28:52

Josh: Can you at least tell us just quickly the RSVP on it?

28:55

Mason: What is it?

28:56

Tommy: What do you mean?

28:57

Mason: Well, how are we gonna RSVP?

28:59

Tommy: Why, are you coming?

29:00

Mason: Yeah, I am.

29:01

Tommy: Is that great? Done.

29:03

Josh: It's not a digital system. How do you know who is coming?

29:08

Tommy: I'll get there. The thing is, we organise our EP600 2 weeks out, mate. I've still got plenty of time.

29:14

Mason: We had Eventbrite. Are we gonna— you—

29:16

Josh: we did nothing for EP600.

29:18

Tommy: Oh, sorry, F500.

29:19

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I think it was like a week.

29:21

Tommy: But in terms of logistics, I'm not— there's no stress here.

29:24

Josh: Can we just— I'm actually excited about the Adventure Club. Can you tell me something?

29:27

Mason: Just tell it.

29:28

Josh: Can you actually tell us what's happening on the 29th?

29:30

Tommy: No, actually, absolutely not.

29:31

Josh: Why? What are you worried about?

29:32

Tommy: Nothing. I'm just drip feeding it over the time. It's called an arc.

29:36

Josh: The arc isn't moving. You haven't even taken up— you haven't started drawing the arc yet. Yes, I have.

29:42

Tommy: So I'll tell you this week, uh, who the sponsor is and where we'll be going.

29:48

Josh: What, are you waiting on something?

29:49

Tommy: No, I just, I'm just— oh, this person's calling me again. Do you reckon that's a real— hang on. Yes. Hello? Hello? No, that's spam. I hate that. It takes a little time for them to kick in. It's so frustrating. Anyway, how's the book going? I told you, I'm not putting— like, you keep pushing.

30:15

Josh: I'm not, I'm not like— it's actually just bad content. Yeah, I know it's bad content.

30:18

Tommy: You just— it's so fucking annoying. But we'll get there.

30:22

Josh: I don't understand. So what date? When are you gonna have the next announcement?

30:27

Tommy: Okay, I'll give you one, one little bit.

30:28

Josh: This is it. Good.

30:30

Tommy: You'll need a bike or some form of transport.

30:34

Mason: Oh, hang on. Perfect.

30:37

Tommy: Running? Oh, you know, I just said you'll need a bike.

30:41

Josh: You're thinking it could be—

30:42

Tommy: yeah, but you—

30:43

Mason: or some form of transport.

30:44

Josh: Like what?

30:44

Tommy: Yeah, to keep up with a bike unless you want to run.

30:47

Mason: Stroller? Like what, what's going to work?

30:49

Tommy: What, do you get pushed around in stroller, baby? Scooter?

30:51

Mason: Scooter?

30:52

Tommy: Yeah, you do.

30:53

Mason: So it's not going to be like super rocky terrain or whatever that's going to need like a mountain bike? Is a road bike?

30:58

Tommy: Just bring a bike, mate.

30:59

Josh: What's a bike? Do I have to worry about tram lines?

31:02

Tommy: No punches, no tramline worries. Yeah, and worry about them if they happen.

31:06

Josh: Will it be getting dirty? Will the bike get dirty?

31:09

Tommy: Mate, no dirtier or rustier than what it's got out on your balcony.

31:14

Josh: What's that?

31:15

Tommy: You need that chain fixed. I looked at it the other day, I was like, oh no. Anyway, so there you go, there's a little one, and then I'll give you more.

31:21

Josh: So everyone's got to ride a bike? Yep. Is it big? For someone who wasn't going to tell us anything, you've told us we're going back.

31:27

Tommy: I know, you put— you bullied me.

31:29

Josh: And so a sponsor is quite close.

31:31

Tommy: You just—

31:31

Josh: is the sponsor quite—

31:32

Tommy: this is why I don't like to give you things, because we're letting it happen. I'm giving you the chance to do your book club. Okay. Anyway, we've only got about 5 minutes left to go.

31:42

Josh: Annoy you that I said that?

31:43

Tommy: You just— you cannot fucking hold a secret. You're the most annoying person that I know.

31:49

Josh: I don't know, it's not a secret. If you told me this, I haven't confirmed anything, and that's the whole thing. If you'd actually said to me, hey Josh, I've been speaking to Rob Ward. I'm going to wait until he's on the show and we're going to announce what we're doing for Adventure Club. If you'd let me in on that, if you'd let me in on that, I would have shut the fuck up. But because you don't, now I want to start guessing. And that's exactly what's happening based on your face. Anyway, Rob's on the show this week.

32:15

Tommy: All right, let's go. We'll see you tomorrow, guys. Oh no, we're not. I actually have to get back to doing some work.

32:21

Josh: You fucking want to hear about the book club?

32:22

Tommy: Not really, because I'm not a part. I don't really. I'm not reading.

32:25

Josh: Are you not reading? You're not part of the book club? I don't have the book.

32:27

Tommy: I don't have a physical book. Okay, I'm not gonna buy the book either.

32:30

Josh: What do you think of the book, Sevs?

32:32

Mason: I'm— I haven't read anything since my last review of the book.

32:36

Josh: So Kaz, George's mum from Byron, she's loving the book. Called George last week and said the book's amazing, it's such a good pick.

32:46

Tommy: We know this because George told us on the show, didn't he?

32:50

Josh: Can't remember if it was on the show, but anyway, so Uh, this week, 50 more pages.

32:56

Tommy: That's solid.

32:57

Josh: So at the moment you're at page 50.

33:00

Mason: What page are you at?

33:01

Josh: We're all at 50. And so if you're not at 50, you gotta— you're gonna get going tonight. The idea being that you've got to be at 100 by Friday. Okay, that's good. On Friday, we're not just— I'm not just going to say read another 50 pages. On Friday there is something big happening for the book club. Awesome. I need you to have 100 pages done. Okay, can you do an Insta storey about that too, Seb? Can you actually just grab this as a snippet? Can you put it in a square like this? Okay, do we get by Friday? Everyone, by Friday I need you to be up to page 100 of the book as part of the book club, which is You're Not Listening by Kate Murphy.

33:41

Mason: Something big's happening.

33:42

Josh: Something's happening.

33:43

Tommy: Is it too naughty to be over 100 or you have to be—

33:46

Josh: I would say just be at 100 because otherwise it's too hard.

33:50

Tommy: Yeah, true.

33:51

Josh: And, um, I think that'll be perfect. It'll mean that we'll sort of wrap up the book at the end of the month, which is sort of what we want to do.

33:58

Tommy: So before we go, Sevs, anyone on, uh, live feed?

34:02

Mason: Yeah, Beard of Fen says I'm done with the book.

34:03

Josh: He's finished it.

34:05

Mason: I don't know if it's I'm done as in I can't be bothered or I'm—

34:08

Josh: I think he's finished it.

34:09

Tommy: Yeah, Beard of Fen.

34:10

Josh: What did our Gem say? He's cutting off it. My end.

34:14

Mason: Um, I've— I had to reconnect on my stream. No, it was something about she saw a sign at the, uh, the doctors, at the doctors, and it was around if you're coughing or sneezing or whatever, go to reception immediately for the virus, which is pretty forward.

34:29

Tommy: But yeah, I mean, what's the other way?

34:31

Mason: Oh, it might just be a cold or something.

34:34

Tommy: That's all the threat. That's all the people that got coronavirus fucking thought in the first place. If you go, you need to be super cautious of this shit.

34:42

Josh: Did you hear that the guy who was the whistleblower, did you hear about it?

34:45

Tommy: He died, the poor bugger.

34:46

Josh: I didn't even realize. I wasn't in the whole news thing.

34:49

Tommy: I didn't try to warn people, and then people were like, oh, that's a bit fucking forward, mate. It's a bit forward that you're trying to point out there's some kind of deadly virus out there. Like, that's the—

34:58

Josh: yeah. Anyway, all right, uh, it's a daily talk show. If you enjoy the show, leave us a, uh, review on Apple Podcasts, or you can watch us stream.

35:05

Tommy: We, we stream these every so often on Instagram, so if you don't follow us instagram.com/thedailytalkshow. I mean, you're— if you're doing that on a computer, you might be at work actually.

35:17

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35:27

Tommy: Can you subscribe multiple times? You said on all of your podcast apps.

35:31

Mason: If you've got different—

35:32

Josh: if you're using Spotify, you're an animal.

35:35

Tommy: Pump those numbers up. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're an animal if you use more than one.

35:39

Josh: Yeah, I use Apple Podcasts on the side of Pocket Casts just so I can read reviews and stuff.

35:45

Tommy: I'm going to go subscribe on all of them.

35:47

Josh: Well, it doesn't have to be—

35:47

Mason: But then you've got Spotify installed for your music, so you've got the app there anyway.

35:51

Josh: Spotify is an interesting one. There's no point subscribing because it doesn't actually count subscribers, but actually—

35:56

Mason: Auto downloads.

35:56

Josh: Actually, I would love for you to also, if you haven't subscribed yet, do that. And also go and look at the Visit Melbourne and MTV Australia's Instagram for the complete—

36:07

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36:10

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36:16

Tommy: Oh yeah, send it some fire.

36:17

Josh: Yeah, like, these guys are great. Oh my God, is that Josh from The Daily Talk Show?

36:21

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

36:21

Josh: Is that his co-host Tommy?

36:23

Tommy: Yeah, that sort of stuff.

36:25

Josh: All right, so let's talk. See you tomorrow, guys. See you guys.

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