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Episode 59829:20

We're Annoyed

We chat about why Josh is a bit irritated, working with your partner in a relationship, and our company-wide calendar.

Show Notes

–Being irritated
–Bringing kids to meetings
–Josh's company wide-calendar
–Not mentioning who you're bringing along
–Working with each other in a relationship

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Both hosts discuss "metacognition" — being aware of one's own irritable or anxious state while still experiencing it — as a recurring theme of the episode.
  • –Small domestic annoyances (lost books, laundry mishaps, unexpected guests) are framed as near-universal relationship frustrations that pass if you "lean into" rather than suppress them.
  • –Josh describes a frustrating Sunday spent troubleshooting a shared G Suite/calendar issue on his own, highlighting his dislike of people troubleshooting tech from the outside ("stay in your lane").
  • –Tommy and Josh agree it's acceptable to excuse yourself and go to bed early when houseguests are over if you're not engaged in the conversation.
  • –Both hosts reflect that in long-term couple friendships, it's common to feel closer to only one partner in a couple, though this is rarely said aloud.

Questions this episode answers

What do Josh and Tommy mean by "metacognition" in this episode?

They describe it as thinking about your own thinking — becoming aware that you're feeling irritable or anxious while you're still in the middle of feeling that way, as opposed to being unconsciously caught up in the mood.

What caused Josh's stressful Sunday in episode 598?

Josh spent an afternoon trying to troubleshoot why his personal calendar entries (including a dinner with Bree) were appearing in other people's calendars, eventually tracing it to the Spark email client, all while unable to reach producer 97/Seb for help, prompting him to take a cold shower to calm down.

What advice do the hosts give for dealing with irritability?

They suggest that observing your irritation (being aware of it) without letting it spiral is important, that activities like walking or having a red wine can help, but that ultimately you sometimes just have to "lean into" the feeling and ride it out since it is temporary.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

0:03

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 598.

0:08

Tommy: Happy Tuesday, guys. What's going on? It's a late one for us. We're just getting it through.

0:14

Josh: Have you heard of that metacognition?

0:17

Tommy: Yeah, yours is quite low at the moment.

0:20

Josh: No, so metacognition is the— I think it's the process of thinking about your thinking. And I'm feeling irritable.

0:27

Tommy: And you're thinking about your thinking?

0:29

Josh: Well, no, I'm feeling irritable and I feel like metacognitively I realise that.

0:36

Tommy: Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

0:36

Josh: Is that right? Yeah.

0:38

Tommy: I mean, it's just, I mean, that's the same as being mindful, I guess.

0:41

Josh: No, but what is metacognition?

0:44

Mason: Becoming aware of those unconscious states of mind.

0:47

Josh: Yeah.

0:47

Tommy: So you're, it's great because you sort of lean into the annoyance just naturally. And then you're like, hang on, I'm annoyed. And it's amazing that you can think about how you're feeling anxious or annoyed, but still be completely feeling anxious and annoyed, but also be going, oh my God, look, like, oh, look at it. I can feel it sort of down in the stomach region as well. You can be totally, um, you can be, you can just be sort of so sort of like zoomed out looking at this sort of hot mess.

1:18

Josh: Because if you look at it, you're like, oh, surely 97 isn't as annoying, like, in real, like, the, the squeaking The creaking of the desk and the squeaking of the door.

1:28

Mason: That wasn't even my— I was fixing that for you. You should be grateful for the fact that I did that.

1:33

Tommy: You know, so what is it? What is the antidote to when you are in a moment of you're irritable? What's— what is the antidote? Is it gratitude?

1:43

Josh: Like, is it—

1:44

Tommy: I mean, that is one.

1:46

Mason: Punching.

1:47

Tommy: I wasn't gonna say—

1:48

Josh: no, I think there is—

1:48

Tommy: there's the ground and pound.

1:51

Josh: So there's a— there's the walking, I think going for a walk. Yeah. Annoying thing is I was feeling irritable, so I went for a walk, but then I went to the post office. Post office, very annoying. Why? Just a lot of people, just a big line. And just, um, it's—

2:07

Tommy: what's crazy also is when you, when you're in the spiral and you know you're in the spiral and you can't get out of the irritable spiral. It's, it's—

2:15

Josh: this is relatable. Is there a place for if you're feeling irritable, not to go back to Justin Bieber, But in his documentary, there's a bit where he's like, oh geez, his wife is so good. Like, you know, puts up—

2:30

Tommy: she puts up with a fair bit from young Justin.

2:33

Josh: Yeah. Is, is that acceptable? Can you be annoying? Can you be— can you have moods? Are we accepting that?

2:40

Tommy: I think what you can accept is that it's going to happen and it will continue to happen, but I don't think you have to accept— it's a trap. It's a trap. So it's a spiral. Like, if you're not You know, observing it. What are you, caught up in it?

2:55

Josh: Well, can you be wild? But if you observe it and then continue, is that just as bad? Is that worse if you know it's happening but you still do it?

3:05

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I think for— if in your case you do it quite often, you get meta on your thinking, on your state, it's probably just as bad if you are always feeling it. And not acknowledging it but still letting it continuously happen. This— there's another—

3:23

Josh: that's annoyed me.

3:23

Tommy: There's another step to this. There has to be another step to it. So yeah, I mean, sometimes you just gotta ride it out. Like, I do it. And in relationships, it's, it's so easy to do because when you've got someone close to you, like, you know, your partner Bree, it's like you can be annoyed. Yeah, it's like It's gonna happen.

3:45

Josh: Would you be caught up? Would a red wine, like a glass of red, would that help or would that make me more irritable?

3:51

Tommy: I— it'd probably help. It's an anti-anxiety medication. It's not a medication. Yeah, people medicate with it. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I definitely had a beer last night. It was fucking—

4:02

Josh: maybe.

4:02

Tommy: Well, Seb's—

4:03

Josh: Seb doesn't feel like a guy that gets very irritable.

4:05

Tommy: Do you, Seven?

4:06

Mason: No, I actually got a bit pissed off on the weekend.

4:11

Josh: Oof, not even irritable.

4:13

Tommy: Why'd you get pissed off?

4:13

Josh: So the problem was I I put—

4:18

Mason: I was doing my washing and I put a black t-shirt. So I just, I just throw all of it in and I've just got these few clothes that I keep out, like my black jeans and a black t-shirt. But my black t-shirt has been washed, I don't know, like 12 to 15 times. And so I'm just like, I should be fine now.

4:34

Tommy: Yeah.

4:35

Mason: And so I put it in with all of my clothes and I took my clothes out after the end of the wash and my light-colored shorts had been stained with some brownie dirty sort of ink, and the only thing that changed was white t-shirt. So I was fuming that I put that in there, and because I, I thought, I was like, I should, I should probably shouldn't put that in there.

4:55

Tommy: So you annoyed at yourself. How long does that last for you?

4:58

Mason: What? No, so it kept going. And so then I was, I was going on a walk and I couldn't find like my running shorts or whatever.

5:05

Josh: And so where were they, by the way?

5:07

Mason: Well, no, so I built up this great story. I was like, bloody dad, he's like worn them again. Yeah, it always happens to me. I can't even find socks.

5:14

Tommy: You're in the spiral.

5:15

Mason: And then, but no, but then you're in the thing You're like, you're in your head telling yourself, yeah, that's a great story.

5:19

Josh: Yeah. And then you're like, no, no, you're wearing his t-shirt at the time, which is pretty funny.

5:24

Mason: But you're still, you're still thinking like, oh yeah, like great story, but then you disregard that. But yeah, they were under my bed.

5:30

Tommy: Yeah, I think that—

5:31

Josh: Do you reckon your dad put them there?

5:32

Mason: No, I put them there, definitely.

5:35

Tommy: Yeah, the spiral makes you a great storyteller to serve the continuation of the spiral. That's the problem.

5:41

Josh: I couldn't find my book on the weekend. You're not listening. Bree had put it away in the white section of our bookshelf. But I'm like, I have a real thing. Bree obviously likes to be organised and I leave things around, but I leave them around with the idea that I'm going to use them. And she keeps putting them back to the spot. And so my biggest concern in life is I can never find where anything is. Imagine like living at a house where you put things down as soon as you put it down. Someone like goes and like moves it into a different area.

6:14

Tommy: If it gets put back, like—

6:16

Josh: Putting back assumes that we have a defined place that it goes.

6:21

Tommy: And that's a book and a shelf, bookshelf. But if you're reading a book at the bedside as well, bedside, bedside, if it's the one book you're reading.

6:29

Josh: That was my point. It should have been. And so Bree's like, oh, it must have been left at your office. And I was like, I don't know about that. But I held myself back because I'm like, if it's at the office, I don't want to get annoyed because at the office then it's like, ahaha.

6:44

Tommy: So, she didn't even know she put it back.

6:46

Josh: She was like, nah, we're like looking. Yeah, she was. We're looking for it. I'm like, I swear I had it here. And she's like, nah, you've obviously left it. I'm like, I'm going to go through every book. And I went through and I was like, you're not listening. I found it. I'm like, I knew it. And so, I have that moment.

7:01

Tommy: It's such an old man thing to complain about. Today we were on a shoot that was quite funny. Did you appreciate the funniness?

7:08

Josh: Which I ended up being. The stylist thought that I had dad tendencies.

7:13

Tommy: But which is, which is an in-joke, which she didn't know was an in-joke, which makes it even funnier. Tully, when we were in LA, yeah, she just came out with it. It's like, God, you're like that, you're like a dad.

7:26

Mason: Yeah.

7:26

Tommy: Which was so funny. It's— and I mean, walking to the post office is quite an old man thing to do.

7:33

Josh: There's something, something weird about it. Just— I love it. I love it. It's so good. Yeah, but it has had a little bit of cuts through. But yeah, no, just so you might have to sort of drive the show because I can't be fucked. What do you got?

7:48

Tommy: Oh mate, um, when I— so Bodhi, fuck me, the kid. I woke up last night and see, this is the bit, like, you're worrying about where your fucking book is, I'm worried about an extra person in my bed that I wake up—

8:01

Josh: that you created.

8:02

Tommy: True, true that. It's more impressive than your bookshelf.

8:06

Josh: I didn't even pop the bookshelf together. I think my bro came around to do that. And there's— we have to be careful. Like when Harry, Happy Harry, stayed at our place, I was slightly worried that we'd wake up in the middle of the night to a douche. Because it's not mounted anywhere, like, so there is a potential of the whole bookshelf falling over. Yes.

8:28

Tommy: Well, yeah, there's little sort of things that you can screw into the wall, but you don't want to screw into the wall. And so he's done enough of that with this lease.

8:36

Josh: So Bodhi's been Sleeping in your bed?

8:39

Tommy: Well, it's only like come 3 AM, 3:30 AM, 4 AM, sort of like probably 3 onwards. And he does it most mornings. He gets out of his bed because he can.

8:49

Josh: Is he in a cot?

8:50

Tommy: He's in a cot still. Hoon's into our room. And then I usually wake up when he— because it's such a sweet sound, like the door opening at that early morning period. I'm like, oh, he's coming. And then we have a little cuddle. Sometimes he tells me he loves me. It's beautiful. It's like so sweet. And this morning I woke up and I didn't know, I didn't, I must have been so tired or something that I didn't wake up whatsoever. Anyway, he's next to me and he's fucking kicking me and it was so annoying. I would have preferred the, and just to having to find a book at that point. But no, it's, it was lovely. But no, I was thinking, um, Bodhi, like I had a meeting in Sydney when I was there over Christmas period where I, I took Bodhi but I didn't tell the person that I was bringing Bodhi. Do you think it's okay with kids? Like, and, and it's like, you can't do that. Would that annoy you?

9:48

Mason: Should have been on the calendar invite.

9:50

Josh: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

9:51

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

9:51

Tommy: Can we set him up a G Suite? Bodhi at bigb— at thedailytalkshow.com?

9:56

Josh: Yeah, I wonder. No, can you bring kids No, I don't think it's a good idea. Like, uh, my brother Jake popped in, uh, on Sunday to put together another bookshelf. No, no, he was just like, can I pop in? And I just had, um, I just had a cold shower because I'm like— because I spoke to you just before that because I was dealing with, um, what was it, CSV file? Or no, what was it? I was dealing with something that was irritating me. I've been very irritated. I've been happy but very irritated.

10:26

Mason: You know what the title of this show is?

10:27

Josh: Irritated.

10:28

Mason: Dad's Irritated.

10:29

Josh: I appreciate that. Or Dad's Got My Shorts. Um, now why did I have— I told you I, I was—

10:37

Tommy: yeah, it was—

10:38

Josh: I know, I know why it was. It's slightly— it had something to do with you too, Seb. Of course it did.

10:44

Tommy: Oh no.

10:44

Josh: So my calendar, everything that I, everything that I put in my calendar would be sent to everyone.

10:53

Tommy: And so in the corporation, in the business.

10:55

Josh: And so Bree's dermatologist, you guys know about. When I— yeah, uh, Bree and I had a dinner on Saturday night which ended up being Uber Eats. No, no, no, just very quickly on that. This is also irritating. A PR person reaches out when— this is like 2 weeks ago, which I'm not— I don't get into the rah-rah that much. So I get this email, I didn't really look into it. They emailed again and they're like, hey, the first email was basically like, I represent a restaurant, would like to invite you to the restaurant, you get $200 and just do a post about it. And I was like, really? I did. I'd ignored it or whatever.

11:30

Tommy: I just—

11:31

Josh: well, I just hadn't thought about it. Like, it wasn't really on my radar, but they followed up and I was like, ah. And Bree sometimes looks at my email and she's like, ah, this is like, why don't you write back? I was like, okay, would you go? And she's like, yeah, that sounds fun. And so I wrote back. And I said, oh yeah, 1st of Feb would be great. Can you lock it in? I didn't hear anything, but Bri had put it tentatively in our calendar and I followed up with the PR person, never got back. And so I'm not going to fucking rock up to a restaurant expecting a free thing and not having it all clear.

12:04

Tommy: But you rock up to Rod and Gunn and—

12:06

Josh: Yeah, that did happen. Demand a suit. And get it. I did. I did get the blazer. But it was in the calendar. Yes. And so you sent me an annoying message, which was your Apple Maps on your CarPlay.

12:23

Tommy: Hang on, just annoying for you or for me?

12:25

Josh: Both.

12:28

Tommy: Well, I plug my phone in because we want to go for a drive and instantly it pushes whatever was in my calendar up onto my CarPlay.

12:38

Josh: The restaurant locations.

12:40

Tommy: JJ and Bree dinner tea. And then I was like, mate, sorry, I'm running a bit late. I just sent that photo, which just fucking pissed me off.

12:48

Josh: Did it? Because not only— well, no, because no, I said lol, but I'm like, oh, it's annoying. Because I'm like, we're not going, we're not going out to dinner because we haven't heard from the PR person.

12:57

Tommy: I thought you'd be there and you'd be like, a bit, you know, having a few glasses.

13:01

Josh: So I'm just at home just because they never wrote back, which, whatever. Um, But then, so the, the reason I had to have a cold shower on Sunday was because I couldn't work out why my calendar was appearing, right? And so the storey that I'd created, right or wrong, was the only person to fuck with my calendar was 97. And I got these, I got these two, I get these two emails like three weeks ago, I get these two emails, uh, big media company has shared this calendar, big media company shared that calendar. And I was like, says, what is 'What's the deal with this?' 'Ah, nothing.' You called me and I was out on a walk and I was useless. So I call him, I never— like, Seb is normally very good, right? Very good at like taking my calls and just like just any hour. But there was a little bit of chewed of like, 'Oh hey mate, oh yeah, I'm just walking with my mum because, you know, it's sort of Sunday, it's the weekend.' This fucking guy. I'm on your side, Mason.

14:03

Tommy: I text you, son.

14:04

Josh: I'm like, 'All right.' That's fine. It looks like I'm gonna have to work this fucking thing out on my own.

14:10

Mason: Yeah, because you were gonna lead into it, but you went, how's your weekend been, mate?

14:14

Josh: Yeah, how are you? How you going? Yeah, he's testing, he's seeing the scenario because mine's been a complete write-off with my calendar. And so no, I'm very grateful with life, whatever. Um, and so I was trying to figure out what it was, and so Bree was very supportive because I was just like Like, I was doing the breathing. She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I can't work this out. And she's like, let me help. I'm like, babe, what do you know about G Suite? And she's like, no, I can help. I was like, I can't even. Like, the thing is, none of us can help because we don't know what the fuck 97 has done. And she's like, why don't you ask? I'm like, I did. He's walking with his mum and his mum got dog shit on her phone.

14:56

Tommy: Did she?

14:57

Mason: Yeah, she had a—

14:58

Tommy: she was How do you know shit on your phone?

15:02

Mason: She was carrying a poo bag in the same hand as her phone.

15:06

Tommy: Oh mate, you're gonna double bag that.

15:09

Josh: Yeah, so he was dealing with that, and so I'm like, yeah, I've got to do this on my own. And so I worked out what it was, and Bree was like, maybe it's Spark, which is the email client. I was like, it's not Spark. Anyway, an hour later, I'm like, it was Spark.

15:20

Tommy: I think it's actually one of your pet peeves of anyone troubleshooting from the outside to you, because I think you're very competent at working shit out tech-wise.

15:29

Josh: I think, yeah, my go-to is anyone that's trying to help from a troubleshooting point of view, it's like, stay in your lane.

15:37

Tommy: People are doing it so like from such a nice place.

15:40

Josh: Yeah, 'cause they're like, I just want to help with your anxious breathing right now. Yeah, it's like, have you tried? Maybe I'm just Googling like someone says to do. I'm like, babe, that's fucking Gmail. We're on G Suite. Anyway, but it was, I was way more calm than that, but I sort of bottled it all up. I worked it out, which was good, but I needed to have a cold shower. And so I had a cold shower. And my brother Jake had messaged and said, can, can I pop around to say g'day? I'm just around the corner.

16:07

Tommy: He does that a bit, doesn't he?

16:09

Josh: Sometimes. Yeah.

16:09

Tommy: I think I've been sort of on the phone to you. Oh, Jake's popping in.

16:12

Josh: Yeah. If he's around the area or outside or whatever.

16:15

Tommy: Well, he lives out in the suburbs, so it's nice that he's around.

16:18

Josh: He said he'd been painting. I was like, because he does like resin flooring, does all that. If we ever want to get polished concrete, Polish concrete, mate. He can do that for us. Love that. Um, I was like, oh yeah, that's all cool. Anyway, um, I'm having a shower and I'm just like, Sunday, because it's just been a bit anxious and all that, so they're just like not seeing anyone, like just all a bit sort of insular. And then as I'm drying, I hear, um, I hear another voice. Outside of Jake. It turns out that Jake had brought a girl with him, but he hadn't told me.

17:00

Tommy: So he didn't say—

17:01

Josh: he didn't say, hey, I was bringing my friend. So it's almost a little bit like the whole Bodhi thing.

17:06

Tommy: And so Bodhi's my spawn.

17:08

Josh: Yeah. And so I had a bit of a— I had a situation where I had, uh, dried myself.

17:14

Tommy: Are you not— are you nude in the toilet?

17:17

Josh: Yeah, in the bathroom.

17:19

Tommy: Small.

17:19

Josh: So I, um, did you take your clothes in there?

17:22

Tommy: Like, because your bathroom leads on to pretty much the laundry room.

17:25

Josh: Yeah, so I had the clothes. I was just like, I just sort of—

17:28

Tommy: the breathing's back.

17:29

Josh: Yeah, exactly, a bit like that. I had Taylor Swift playing on the Google Home in the bathroom, and, um, and I just sat there and I was like, okay, now I've got a choice. Either blow this shit up by saying texting Bri saying, "I'm not coming out," which leaves Bri in an uncomfortable position. And also Jake. And then also potentially if this girl is his girlfriend, it's like early stages, whatever. If it is something, it seems like a pretty mean-spirited thing to do the first time you're introducing the girl that you're dating to be hidden in her bathroom saying, "I'm not coming out." And so I just took a breath and then just walked out and said, hi, hi, how you going? Was it—

18:17

Tommy: so this is good because I didn't get to ask the person that I took along to see, but I didn't get to ask them, was that like— I didn't really—

18:26

Josh: I think, what are they going to say?

18:29

Tommy: Yeah, exactly. They're not going to say it to me especially. How— so now I've got an opportunity to understand how you felt about it first versus how it ended up being. Was it all good?

18:39

Josh: It was all good. The thing that maybe Jake recognised is if he told me that someone was there, I would have said maybe another time.

18:46

Tommy: So he knew.

18:47

Josh: So you're thinking so potentially, or maybe it's just that's the—

18:50

Tommy: that is a story.

18:52

Josh: And so the other storey is that he just like, he's got the person there because— so it turns out the painting that you'd done was a date, one of those like sitting down painting together.

19:03

Tommy: That's Ryan.

19:04

Josh: John did that recently. I asked, I was like, is Ryan— was Ryan that was on the same day, different place?

19:08

Tommy: Yeah.

19:09

Josh: And, and so that's the storey that I told was he was painting on a worksite and he was just coming back. Yeah, yeah. But it turns out it was a painting for a date. And then so I— Bree was like, okay, you obviously like didn't want them to hang around for too long. I was like, why do you say that? She's like, because you said very like pretty soon when you sat down. So where are you guys going for dinner? You're very open.

19:39

Tommy: In sort of how you sort of are in situations without saying it.

19:44

Josh: Well, Bri, I think that I've— this is a very dad move. I've gotten comfortable with like someone's over. If I'm done, I'm off to bed, guys.

19:54

Tommy: Yeah, I agree with you. I have done that.

19:58

Josh: I've gone to bed a bunch of times. And he's in a studio apartment, he isn't very big. So I walk the 1 meter. It's just like it's almost a studio apartment. I'm nearly like going to bed where they're all hanging out. And so do you think that's okay?

20:10

Tommy: Because I do the same thing. Like, Amy's had friends over, I go to bed. I'm just like, ah, look, I'm tired, I've got nothing to add to this.

20:17

Josh: Yeah.

20:18

Tommy: Is that okay, Seb? Because I, I mean, you don't—

20:20

Mason: yeah, I'll do it.

20:21

Tommy: You go to bed?

20:21

Mason: Yeah, I would do it. I don't think—

20:24

Josh: no, I mean, you've hung out pretty late with your parents when they've got family friends over. You hang out for ages just chatting.

20:33

Mason: Yeah, but that— yeah, but that's— that was like very occasional. But yeah, I mean, if I'm not interested in the conversation, then I'm going to bed.

20:39

Tommy: Yeah. Is Jack Jansen still on the, um, Insta phase?

20:42

Mason: No, he hasn't mentioned anything. No one's mentioned anything actually.

20:45

Tommy: That, that, that's good because—

20:47

Josh: do you ping off? Yeah, but I think it's, um, it's fine because I'm like, oh well, what else is the option? So like, I think that it all worked out. It was fine. And the thing is that I like, I had a choice of being welcoming and nice or just being in my own head.

21:04

Tommy: Of course, I think you did the right thing.

21:06

Josh: But I have in my life when I was younger, I've picked the other option.

21:11

Tommy: Blowing it.

21:12

Josh: Which is just blowing up or just being like, I'm not coming out. Yeah. And then it puts everyone in an uncomfortable position.

21:19

Tommy: Yeah, I think you picked the old man approach, but it's fine. The thing is, how silly does it seem when you look at it from a zoomed out approach. The thing though is that it's hard to get away completely from though that initial response or that feeling, because I know, I know that, I know the feeling, but it's then just how you, how you deal with it. So the annoying thing is, I don't know how many times that, that, that could happen and you'd be annoyed every single time, and there's not much that's going to change it because it could annoy you, but you have to almost like lean into this annoyance to get through it, to get to the other side of it. Well, it feels okay.

22:02

Josh: That was the one. So Naysan, who we had on the show the other day, him and I travelled for 100 days together around the world, and he knows people everywhere. And that was one— like, we didn't argue much, but the one annoyance was him and I doing dinner, and then he'd be like, ah, '6 other people are coming now.' And just— and so he'd be like, 'Oh, why don't you want to like see these people?' And yeah, so that was always a little bit of friction. Or if you would come to Melbourne, it'd be like, 'I've only got a short period of time.' And so he would do a bit of that batching thing where it's like, 'Guys, you're there plus a few other people.' And it always ends up being nice. That's the thing, all these things end up being nice.

22:47

Tommy: Yeah.

22:47

Josh: There's been a couple of times. I remember I went to a, um, a party. It was like a small group, and the person had just invited— Bree had said they're close friends, and we were one of them. And so there was a bit of guilt tripping because I'd said, no, I don't want to go. And like, he's only invited his really close friends, so we've got to go. And so I was like, okay, we'll go. Anyway, we go. And, um, hugged someone. Like, I just— all I remember is like there was a hug/handshake thing was going on with someone when I went in, and it was just a bit of a nightmare. Like, I think— I can't remember what happened. I think I went for the hug or handshake. It was just a fucker. And then to the point where the guy's like, oh, let's do that again. Yeah, let's do that again. And so I just remember like walking over said to Breyer, I said, never again. Like, never ever. Like, I was so right about my feeling towards this. Never again. There's no point. And so anyway, that's how I'm feeling today. But I realise that it's all— this is all temporary. It's all—

23:58

Tommy: it all— it's all— doesn't mean shit, does it? Like, it all really is. When you think about— I said at the start of the week, or last week, of like riding the wave across a week, it's like You can feel so differently day to day.

24:13

Josh: What about like travelling with people, like travelling like as couples? Oh, you got to find the right people to do that with.

24:21

Tommy: I've never done it. I've never done it.

24:22

Josh: It's— I've done it before, it's worked both ways, like sort of sometimes work, sometimes hasn't. But like, I've never, um, I've never blown up. It's only ever been just like sitting in my room just with my arms crossed being like, we've got to go out there, don't we? Why do we get so irritated?

24:42

Tommy: Why do people just flip, like, switch?

24:48

Josh: What's really nice, the kid thing, it's very much like you could probably connect it back to when you're a kid and the exact same thing happening, like family, friends, or whatever pissing you off or being annoyed that that person doesn't— Like, I remember, like, you know, travelling with one couple and the dude was always just so rude to the chick, and you just sort of want to be like, hey, like, you have to speak like that, but you can't. And so you just sort of like— And so everyone's just like, oh, sort of looking at each other, being like, oh, we're just allowing this thing to happen.

25:26

Tommy: Yeah.

25:26

Josh: Whereas you want to be like— It always seems— Don't you feel that for most couples, I reckon probably 70%, because Bri and I have been together for 12 years. We've had a lot of couple friends. 50% of the time you only like one of the people in the couple.

25:43

Tommy: I think it's pretty rare to be really close with both, like gelling really with both. There is— I feel like there's always one that you kind of gravitate towards more and you just deal with the other. They're just like, yeah, they're okay. But you'd never say it. You'd never ever say it. It's like Well, one comes with the other.

26:03

Mason: Yeah.

26:04

Tommy: Oh, it's a pity.

26:05

Josh: Then you see the times when it's like they end up breaking up and you're like, thank fuck for that.

26:09

Tommy: I mean, you've got to be cautious of talking about it, saying it early days, because they get back together.

26:14

Josh: I know.

26:15

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, anyway, I could have gone down a hole with that one, but why? Anyway, no, no, no, uh, Mr. 97, I think what I'm excited about our relationship with you is that you've got a lot of this ahead where like your life and it's, um, your habits collide with another person and you're finding your footing. So in a relationship, early days, it's like as you get older, your habits are more sort of ingrained and your weird little, uh, meal prepping, just all the shit you do, my smoothie in the morning. Like just there is some give and take because you meet somebody and like you got to sort of just sort of slow up on a few and then you're sort of judging the other person's ones and what they're doing. You know, it's finding your footing as a relationship of like, how can we make our sort of lives work together? And so I'm looking forward to you navigating and a lot of content coming from that.

27:14

Josh: It's annoying.

27:15

Tommy: Yeah, that's true because there's a lot of annoyances. You're like, well, she's really annoying that way. But I'm okay with it because I really like her.

27:23

Josh: Yeah.

27:23

Tommy: And then she's doing the exact same, you know, hey, you're a little weird unit and you won't go anywhere else but Aldi to get your cheap fucking shit. That's really annoying to me, but I love you.

27:34

Josh: But there's also things that just like little things can be so triggering. My little thing is like when we're having dinner and Bree's like, now can you just get a sparkling water? For whatever reason, I was going to do it anyway, but now that you've asked, you've taken any any possible job that I can have, you have to ask. And I was going to do it. And so now I'm just doing what I'm told. So anyway, I realise that I'm very, very lucky that Bree puts up with me. Yeah. And, um, you know, I'll just leave it at that. All right, uh, it's a daily talk show. Thank you for the people who have told a friend. I think we've seen an increase of downloads because people are telling their friends, which is nice.

28:16

Tommy: What we asked yesterday, if you hadn't listened to that app was if you could, if you're listening to this, text it. You can go into the podcast app or whatever one you use and share it through text message or anywhere and just ask them to listen.

28:28

Josh: Yeah, just send it to a mate if you think, or if you're like, oh, my partner is irritating me at the moment, maybe this is a good one for them to hear.

28:37

Tommy: Yeah, listen to this old guy on this podcast.

28:40

Josh: Yeah, listen to this dad. And Apple Podcast reviews, anything, Sev?

28:45

Mason: Yeah, we got one from O Maka. Uh, best podcast. Love the commitment from the Gronks for 10 years. Great guests and chat. 5 stars.

28:54

Tommy: Where's Macca from? Oz?

28:56

Mason: I think so.

28:56

Josh: Yep.

28:57

Tommy: Yeah.

28:57

Josh: Uh, if you've got any suggestions of guests too, hypethedailytalkshow.com. And, um, got some good ones coming up.

29:04

Tommy: I mean, they're always great, but, uh, I'm pumped.

29:07

Josh: Yeah, so am I. Anything else?

29:09

Mason: Uh, Belinda says boys in black today.

29:11

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, baby's in black.

29:13

Josh: I had a hoodie on, but it's too hot for that.

29:15

Tommy: It's way too hot.

29:16

Josh: Okay, all right, uh, it's a Daily Talk Show. See you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

29:19

Tommy: See you guys.

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