#532 – Pistons & Pokémon With Scooter Derek/
- November 30, 2019
Scooter Derek joins us for Weekend Banter! We chat about how Derek almost gave away his kid’s pokemon cards, Mr. 97’s super, why Scooter hates Harvey Norman and Logitech, and we learn about pistons and motors.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– How Derek almost gave away his kid’s pokemon cards
– YouTube and COPPA
– Boxing and Gym memberships
– Mr. 97’s super
– Derek’s carbon emissions
– Recycling batteries
– Harvey Norman and Logitech
– Josh’s New Balance returns
– Pistons and motors
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 532. What's going on guys? weekend banter with
scooter. Derek. Hey guys. Great to be back
right back from Episode 500. The last
time you're on Yeah,
I haven't. I mean, I've seen you but you did a great job. Thank you. Just one more time. Thank you.
Yeah, you talk about the ambush.
Yeah, yeah, it was great. You know, I ambushed you into helping us
these guys know full well my dreaded fear of live stuff. That's why I became a podcaster and into podcast what
is it what is the fee I didn't know this just
get anxious. build up of anxiety before
you live stream all the time. You're telling us we need to be live streaming every episode.
Is it because it's
not fear other people live streaming I'm just saying be that all
you do live streams. are you opening Pokemon cards then you give them out?
No the stop that
is it always no evidence to back
Why did you stop that
because I was doing it as as up as I've explained to him but I haven't told Tom yet. I was doing it to teach myself how to best use OBS live and flip between screens and graphics and stuff like that Why Pokemon I am because my kids are into Pokemon and they're opening the cards anyway I went right but then you gave them away Didn't you upset you Santa? I didn't. I offered to give them away but I put I put certain limits on it. Whereas there had to be so many viewers and so didn't give any away.
So this was the best part. So I spoke to screwed up on the phone. Hang
on, are you catching this? I'm under the bus here.
So he he did one where he gave one away. And he said Tom was spewing. He was because it can you explain what what you actually do you turn it around, revealing a certain god
yeah, that will the kids have shown me this. The So I'm trying to get a YouTube channel thing up and going I'm trying to train myself to get it right to start doing videos about my podcast production business and stuff like that and all the tech
very quickly studio if you're new to this channel, go to my studio on Instagram, everywhere on everything it's a cookie little little joint I love it. Perfect that it's pretty cool. It's actually extension of your personality, to be honest.
is it's like when you have a dog
the dog morphs into you
but so go on the trend you you get the the Pokemon cards out, and then I don't anymore but but so you're doing
Yeah, so the kids showed me this channel. We have people they just literally up there on the screen. They're all excitable like the hysterical and they open. They flipped open a pack of cards and open lots of packs of cards and all rare ones and everything and kids watch it they kind of satisfy their addiction to opening them without having to spend six dollars each time my mic give me six bucks yeah I was watching my
opening these things this is
this is where it gets interesting now they're grown people like one guy's a lawyer grown children now he's he's a he's a lawyer who gave it all up to open Pokemon cut
back on this story place can you just type in the guy that gave up lawyer a lawyer to open Pokemon cards
His name is Leon how the kids love him. And he's a happy go lucky guy. But there's more to this story. So I thought I'll let's do this but I went anonymous. for about five minutes. I didn't and then I went now this is this is dumb. The token is some of the school parents going Can't believe the kids watch these grown people getting hysterical. Silly. Yeah, who do that? So I just flipped them to see if there was a, you know, a way of just
so as you want so you had a Live stream video, and it's just your hand and a packet of Pokemon cards. And you just peel it off and then you reveal slowly the different cards that are in the package
exactly and and I thought, well, this could be fun if I do it live because that's what I wanted to do to make sure I could stream before I offer it to clients. And so if I offer them live and people comment if there's enough people watching then if they all jump on and say I want that one. And there's a timer Yeah, right then I spin a wheel I got this there's a like a DeRose wheel but he calls call it a wheel like a
spin the wheel and you know the seventh commenter Windsor and you send it to them, but I never end up doing it because it just was super creepy. Also, because you did want you I was speaking to you on the phone. And I was like, hey, Derek, what are you doing? You're like I'm live streaming. I said how can you talk to me it's I've just got music playing, but I can just see my hands. It's So then you said that you'd given one away. And the way that happens is people would mention the card name. And if four people mentioned the correct card name, then the last person to say it wins it. Is that right? Is that
something? Yeah. Now if five people asked for it, then then it qualified basically, those are the three viewers. Yeah, I was safe and so given to the key
Well, that's what was happening. But then I was watching like I simultaneously listening, listening to Derek, I'm like, I'm gonna go on here. He fucked me. Anyway, Josh, I then saw that there was like four people that don't.
And so I said it
the internet from his power.
He like he didn't close the programme, he disconnected his internet connection so that he's always like, so it didn't exist.
It's true. I'd totally corrupt. This is me being asked. I might, I might I could get it. No hot in your
late Leon Hi,
his name's Lee Stein flake Steinfeld and he's a licenced attorney in Dallas Texas. And and
and what's he doing now? How big is his YouTube channel? Like how big is this guy? 700,000 subscribers on YouTube so bad? Yeah, I wonder I wonder I wonder if he's lost monetization based on the new YouTube law where you can't make money from kids can definitely
commented that so you wouldn't be able to kids wouldn't even be able to come in anymore and your stuff?
Well, yeah. pull the pin on this whole thing. Why? Well, because I've done what I need to do what you keep forgetting that I was just doing it to train myself to do the streaming thing, right. So I pulled the pin on this thing. And then the same time copper, children's online protection, something something right and all these new laws, this new YouTube stuff. You know, when you put a YouTube up, it says is this aimed at Keeton rock. So that was to do with some YouTube getting fined 170 million dollars from FDA or sub three lenders in America. Right? They got to say if they say that sounds about right. And, and so there's all this kind of hype going on if you're aiming at kids and I went through the fact that I'm not this is to practice in a different way. Right? And it's to protect the means to protect the kids, so kids can't so instead of the parents having to go are, you know, YouTube's a minefield? Like I've got kids and if they watch a video, you go, let me you know, let my kids watch a YouTube video unless I say they can. But it rolls into another one, which was completely random
well and the swipe up, and then you can see a lift in his mind.
sort of stuff of a searching what a kid search? No, I don't think it's a lot of I mean, it's about the recommendation and so yeah, it's the
It's the rabbit hole you get down.
So I saw that there's a new YouTube's been pushing me this new app for kids.
You heard about this Yeah, Youtube Kids,
so they're gonna make a switch. Yeah, so I guess
it's specifically designed for Netflix have these like it's, it's so you don't go from you know watching a Kids TV show to watch some jackass
yeah and on aeroplanes if you get onto the kids mode, you have to use a two buttons to get out of it. I had to help the lady next to me on the way back from Singapore. She was stuck in then off I go, I've been spread out you go do that. She's like, Oh, you don't call me sweetheart. She's like me I don't
be that so the bottom line he
was a sweetheart and person that if you were ever called a sweetheart,
to my mom would be the type to say Don't call me sweetheart or I don't hate you.
down or anything? Yeah, I
mean, I've only women that say it. Think all my calls you doll or
I don't mind at all but I think my mom's like a bit downtown me
it's almost like don't know me when young women like that I've had it at a cafe where it's like it's it's really disruptive because it's usually comes from an older person
I say down
yeah I think or darling by a younger woman
and make you feel
particularly good now
I'm going to close that loop though yeah go with the YouTube thing the the new rules when you if it's for kids or they deem it for kids, or and there's a lot of hype going on a lot of hysteria. A lot of people are making great content and getting a lot of downloads with the hysteria right so they
look at it this way.
Hey, this guy layin hot just put one out as a you know with an ex ex.
Why are you pointing at Mr. Nice
Lena hot guy he is released a video explaining it all right. So he's for kids
or is this one for parents?
No kids watching content creators
one off everyone's doing one off explaining it all on
his own channel on
his own channel, watch it is closed then all of a sudden gain some real serious ended up to discuss management
a Blue's Clues there's a bit going on miles been very slow
Can you find that video? I really want to watch it later. Listen, it says the one way he's explaining the challenges. I'm not sure if this comment save key is if they've got comments activated. And if anyone's activated saying
off branded? Yeah. So basically when you when it's for kids? Yeah, there's no comments. You know the drill. There's no comments and there's no targeted advertising. So the estimate To drop their revenue by 85% 85% Why is he 5%?
The revenue of the Creator
What about Google not
have to worry about YouTube there are there okay? The targeted ads possible to protect the children so they're not targeted
as I mentioned, jackass Did you ever watch jackass back in the day? No.
I saw the ads for I look i saw that i that's pretty contracts. You saw that it
was. Someone showed me that one. It was all downloading through the one became really famous Rufus.
Like a specific person,
or specific, specific homeless person. Well, this is the king of bumfights. This is what I think
is the crazy thing. The bagel guy has a bit of that lose that the bagel guy is the guy who is like, very, very short. And he was in a bagel shop and he had a fight and so he got angry. Trying to get people to fight him. There seems to be a big culture. The moment of Like boxing, boxing fans a lot
of money in it. Look at the look at Logan and Paul KSI they had like an unbelievably huge turnout to the staples centre which is where the NBA goes down it's like big concerts go down they filled the joint. Wow Rick Ross there was like, who else is this huge sort of fighting like actual celebs outside of
boxing? Yes boxing,
you're into boxing. I went to the boxing when I was a kid it was all Muhammad Ali it was it was a huge wasn't there wasn't any judgement or anything. Would you watch it on TV? Yeah, we did we you know and even when I was about 18 everyone would gather in pubs to watch a big heavyweight title fight but the
rumble in the jungle What year was that? I don't know. That was
back before me.
Yeah, so you know that all
that all that for quite young. I'm very
but, but I had nothing to do with boxing until recently. I went To the big stadium. What's it called the plan? No, no it. There's a boxing place like a boxing arena, really? And it's called. I think they use it for weddings and stuff as well. But it's like, the sons of Lester Ellis, right? Yeah. Yeah. Jim Ellis, Jim. And the people that go and train. They're like my maid. He went to do it for weight loss and health. Is this
97 is this where we went and saw PJ
man I felt that place would do weddings.
Now, but it's this place is way bigger. It's called the Melbourne Pavilion. Okay. What suburb Kensington? Yeah, Kensington
is a rising it's like walking into another world.
No. Do you feel like you leave there wanting to start a fight?
No, I was I thought that I thought on Jesus is gonna be interesting because I used to go to the first couple of motorcycle gronk breeze. I went to on Philip Harland.
Silly When you stay when you drive home you get a bit and I saw people
there wasn't much policing and stuff but I saw it was Armageddon out there in the streets was like Mad Max three they were people just went mental because they were fired up they saw people racing and they really fight yeah and I thought Christ what's gonna be like in a boxing pavilion with every you know every every Bogan from every suburb all gather together see their friends
I mean including myself it's probably the one place I mean yeah you do here fights for a thing you can look on YouTube Barclays fighting shit like shootouts that boxing matches in Melbourne that remember that you remember that? Is the Hells Angels duties now in jail for a long time mentioned. Yeah, it's it's full on but it was very clean it was Yeah, I mean there's fuckwits trying to fight who probably can't fight a boxing match like that.
This was amazing because I had all the people that that go to the gym, like my mind is being out of the gym for year I don't know sorry a long time, a long time.
But he's gone he drove
remind you you know you can cancel it now dude, he dropped four kilos. You can just shut it off inside I want to pi by the end of the you could you could call now you could preempt it
and just pay the difference and then finish it.
Any I get a lawyer?
Have you had any issue I feel like you would have had
several gym memberships. I had my first one. I'd love to talk about this Boxing Day but I will talk about my
first fantasy boxing story. I can't remember it.
It was a very exciting night but it was it was emotional. Because these dudes and girls were getting up having a crack in front of all their friends and there's a thing where there was to sell tickets and stuff like school concert kind of thing.
Yeah, but you punch in punch your heads it
but the heart. The heart is amazing to get up there and have a crack in the tech training techniques and basically getting punched it was awesome. Just gym memberships, the gym membership. I joined a gym with my mate and I was probably a kind of a bit of a over the top 78 kilos or something like that. Oh, we're getting a bit flabby made
over the top seven, eight. Does that mean you're 78 kilos over what?
78 kilos. So we were like puny guys. And we, we decided to, to get some muscles and we joined this gym and lilydale and went along.
What year was this?
We just say 89 Yep. So 30 years ago
is it well I'm at
831 and I worked
like Mr. Universe, you know, and we're doing everything they told us to do.
And we laugh because the other guys you can hear them going. Door my Push, push, don't get bigger not come on until you know each other and this team couch was pretty fascinated by Are we doing that we just we were kind of laughing and we just got all that's what
I'm trying to do
and you know what to do
though the people come and tell you what to do and write down a list then you go around with your piece of paper and do everything that it says. So then we we don't pause and look at each other going off.
When someone grabs your arm,
what does that mean? He just said all when I did it, what do you think? Not good,
but who you did it to? I didn't leave it
felt like it's nothing. There's nothing impressive at grabbing it. And
I wasn't it wasn't about Tom's arm. It was about where we were going.
Like, feeling so bar sweaty and everything we walked into the changing room. That was like, you know, no, no, it was like, get our towels and we're all kind of above and you know, we'll see A guy called Dave Russell, go for it. 97 and he was, I don't know what his position was at the time, but I think he was like, you know, the heavyweight champion of boxing boxing. Yeah. And he was just like a statue. And we both just shrank back into ourselves. Do
you always get back trying to get a train with people who are so much fitter or stronger than you? Like it? I used to train with bodybuilders and I was such a little twerp. But then I tried them. I made some blood on the sick was 60 so you feel bigger fan anything?
Yeah, he's a professional boxer. Yeah, I mean, he's got a 40% kayo. Oh, right.
Good. That's great. People 40 of the time. That
means that 60% of Tommy doesn't know I just means
you had a nice career. What's his career? Does that mean? 60% No, no, no, it just means so you go. I've won 16 fights. Eight of them have been via
blah, blah, blah. How often? What's the stats on Kalos versus points?
Like that depends on the fighter man. Mayweather is never I don't think knocked out anybody.
I mean in general in the whole world of boxing is alive depends
on when they're in a fight the featherweight stuff, you're not really getting knocked out enough. UFC is a different ballgame because they're just finding that gloves on.
He's a riddle for you. What weighs more, this is for Tommy kilogramme of feathers or a kilogramme of bricks. Same Good one. It's
my son Tom. When he went What did he say? Oh, really?
What about me? I breaks.
Yeah. Kids these days. We're reading an article about the sex recession. Have you heard
about that? Don't know what that is? Sir, can you just say so kids these days?
are young people like people 97th age
and having sex? Yeah, I noticed that.
Even pull up some stats around this like what's what's going on? What do you find when you when you search that? It's a? Yeah, it's a funny one because if you think about it, what is what has changed over the last 30 years? You could say we're all bit more work, iPhones, iPhones, iPhones are more information. So are we scared off from doing things like having emotional connection with people so sexual?
Did you say your transition? Did you say transition from say, the 90s to the 2000s in regards to people's willingness to have sex?
You're talking about a bunch of kids that feel like they've been violated when you ring them on the phone. Like it's it's Yeah, I think Tom's right. It's, it's Think it's like my god actually. I'm not showing them my cock.
Think that they
used to be the disco now they've got Tinder so they can get on and even you know, what's the face Tinder? Facebook.
Just Yeah, I wonder if there's say people can fall in love with falling in love so you go what I actually desire is that chase the love bit, which isn't necessarily the intercourse romanticise the love Yeah, exactly. So the chase right so you're getting these micro fulfilment through things like Tinder and the response in the message and then it's like working it out and then it's sort of fucking all falls
apart. There's something fun like from the entrepreneurial point of view, it's fun trademarks and setting up businesses and doing all these sorts of things and then you actually have to like through the work.
Next year, what do you what do you find? Read this
So the sexual frequency the decline in sexual frequency coincided with two events, the introduction of the iPhone in 2007 and the GFC
I mean, shouldn't have 20 2015 When was that? 2015? Sorry 2000 so
in Australia when JFK was
definitely there and now but also that was because yeah, my mom and dad sold the house the week before the jfc 2009
long time ago,
see? So that stuff in
the stock market so you wake up Monday morning, and it's just the Dow Jones if you went over stocks in your life?
Yes. What's that like? I bought a car I got the concept thing. I'll do that
stuff and then when you have to like lay down five grands to start it out like that, but I've still got I still get a report from my zero comes out
here. So come second, okay. Is the economy made to be able to try I don't know.
Yeah, you could set up a content account. Remember that
has like an IQ show? Because I do wonder it's like you want to 97 Do you know anything about this? I've heard by the way, multiple people have been saying that this idea about your super, the 50% Super. Speaking to rob Ward from quite long, yeah, he's like, Man, that's gonna be worth nothing.
If the fact that he's barefoot investor who people listen to, that would probably listen to them over their own parrot. It's probably a good idea but
you've got you like number one my instinct is like, I gotta shake that kid what a decade like the fish the future you'll be older and sicker and miserable with more responsibility and less time and we're just spend the money now have a good time. But then I think what makes what makes you happy. And if putting fucking 50% doing some nonsensical vibe makes him settles down some anxiety in back of his brain so I can continue living, then I can go for it.
I think Yeah.
have a good time. All the time.
Yeah. I mean, I mean, super. For a lot of people.
In Australia, it's 9% of your wages forced savings, it was a 401k. Is that what they call it? Yeah, I think you have to continue this. It's a very was an opt in. This is compulsory for businesses who people are on pa YG often employed when the employer needs to pay set nine the so
there's 9%. So 97 your idea is that by putting in more earlier on early, but also like even going back on like the timing thing. You can put additional funds over the compulsory 9%. Yep. What's that called? Again? That's called
contribution. salary sacrificing,
sacrificing and so by doing we need to get BK talking about this because he's the one salary sacrificing as well. So the idea is that you can put in up to how many percent that is not taxed. So it's you cannot
you can only put a maximum of 25 K I think
$25,000 Yeah, okay. Oh yeah,
yeah. A way to superannuation. Yeah.
Without getting text.
No, no, he gets texted like 15% You're only allowed to contribute to a super voluntarily up to 25,000 so
$25,000 is that on top of the 9%
now I think that's inclusive.
So 25 Have you done the math on 25 grand what's a normal tax bracket 30% 3032
and a half I think it is
soffits if you if it's 30% and you're paying 15% over 25 grand what how much cash extra you getting? Technically Saving from tax Yeah,
I had an old debt in an Evernote shape I don't know where it is, but it's I am I am saving my
money for 6045 years time because
that's one of those deals
but I'm also i'm also paying less tax. My taxable income is less than what obey and I'm paying less tax on it. Well that's the point of that 15% Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. You said it was limited to 25 K's he
said you were in 100 grand you can only boat $25,000 of Euro how you
putting 50% of your weight in
sync to the mass he doesn't earn that money doesn't own 100 grand
yet no but you guys are putting in
nine 9% and so you were doing fit you tell me you put you put in 50% of put it this way or not? Every every fortnight. He's super contribution is double what Josh and ours is combined. So that's it like a half.
Is it 50% or is it not? Did we make that out of what you All the salary g
well you can work in how much he's on. You've just given that away. That's okay. The same covenant wanted to know.
Lisa stops me from blowing out my offer when I go to poach.
gfc tiles wanted to punch him if he had a brother, or twin What is your
thoughts on fight Finance? Yeah,
just one thing I want to take this to the doc applies. The superannuation Stuff Mom and Dad were telling me speaking their financial guy was a fact that thing when you pass away, inheritance can be taxed heavily. So if you're waiting on a nest egg of 500 grand from your parents that have that it can be taxed at 20 or 30% of wherever it is. There is these mini loopholes where you can shift money out of you super account into something else and then backing in and you lose that Charge charge attacks it's bizarre anyway, the will stuff riding a wheel when I was stripping flew up to Sydney to go on that tour through New Zealand I was 19 and there was some quirky characters coming on that trip and one of them bryden what brightens up to he basically he was like if we were like the the base side as we got cold as in like they taken the sheet guys to New Zealand sure he was in the Z side. He wasn't it like you were being compared to him. I was I like he's Rick was so sloppy. It's like that just that I think what happened was one guy pulled out there like, this guy
is this I know funny and man, this was something really funny.
But what it played into was this character do some back it was so it was so it was good bloke bit weird. But I remember I'd met him for the first time I flew up to Sydney. Fresh fruit, wide eyed, bushy tailed, he's takes me in the car, we drive into Bondi Junction from the burbs and he's not gonna go to go short my will out. He was like 23 he's I told my missus, I'll do it.
What's your plan?
It was all a bit weird to me, but he's 23 it's probably more something we should be doing now. What do you think about the wheel of stuff every every time these things come up like tax returns?
I don't have a will be super. Well, I mean, you're self employed, self employed and all that sort of stuff. You have a house though. Yeah, I've got everything's cool. But
I'm just trying to some people would be like, That's the dumbest thing you've if that's the dumbest things, and I have super
mean something, right? Yeah, it's the dumbest.
You're gonna work forever.
But you know, you, you run a business and you run a business. 14 years ago, or I'll sort that out later. And then you're 30. And then you run another business for eight years and you're sorted out later when I make a profit. What technically with hindsight, you should have that dripping away, because you can't get it
but it is a pain in the ass that I never used to pay myself so bad until I have Yeah, and it costs a lot of money. And so
it'll be good in the future. I guess.
Though, it's all good. If everything goes to shit, right? We've at least got some super nice oh, not
know who's got that money?
No. I mean, he's the pension. If you're relying entirely on the pension, it's a hard it's a hard fucking existence moving forward when you're old. If the Liberal government has a way away, you might as well just fucking walk off a cliff when you're old. You
may want to kill themselves
little Cliff down onto the beach. I just bought a lovely sweet
super account. Have you got any? You got something on? There would have been one from
the 80s when I had a job, it'd be gone. No. It has to be
1000 bucks in there and it's been like he might be like a fact that's turning into $100,000 probably no,
no the point of having
if you have a super account that doesn't have any money going into it for many, many years, the whole thing is that will be eaten up by the account fees. That's the thing about consolidating you super if you leave one over here, it's got 200 bucks in it and 20 years that it's it will be there'll be a lot of it even eaten up by the account for if it's a $10 $5 a year account for over 20 years, usually about I think, like 80 bucks a year. The money's gone. Yeah, man. That's why I have one that keeps getting the drip. is then it can actually it's on my list. for the new year, it is the most ever go to me and I'm just Yeah,
yeah. It's actually it's fair. It's real simple host of classes.
Yes. So when you join I was gonna say who go with host plus okay. Credit Repair.
know that's not true.
That's not the one question is like, yeah anything you recommend? People think you can pay
one criticism? I have a vine Jay they've got a new ad at the moment out Have you seen it? 97 No, it's got the the the lady with the red hair. She's an actor I think and she's like plays I think yeah plays this sort of outrageous character. I think she's a famous actor. I think that's the steak. Oh, is it I'm the woman who I love Fisher. But it's either fishy know who that is. Sacha Baron Cohen really sees Why are amazing. But anyway, what I don't like about that ad. Is she pops balloons. She's going around with balloons and she's pretty them and if we know anything, I mean being a Philip Island penguins.
the balloons. I don't hear any balloons anymore, dude, I like blues.
I mean, we do we get called out for
audio carbon emission? car. Yeah,
they're getting a cold out someone said, No, you guys should focus on the audio rather than video because the carbon emission is lower on audio and video.
What does that mean? Because
we should get any feedback and rationale behind
it because we'll be using some process YouTube has to process the video and so they encode it and that takes up server resources which means they have to, you know, use energy to do it. So, who said that?
You're using your cabinet
is always I saw an article that was like,
that's really upset. You hasn't You
labour in the fields to power your electric vehicle again, it was something like the headline was child child labour in the fields to power your leg so you can drive your electric vehicle which I didn't quite get what can we do
it like I guess the the issue with all of this stuff is what options do we have this it seems like there's so many gotchas
one step at a time and ignore those fuckers right this is this is the thing I got an E bike we get right started commuting every day from Preston Collingwood round 18 kilometres a day all together. But and you know what they said what it was to have to be read Braille code to charge that to go up the other guy from YouTube anyway. Which one brown call that's like that we've got the most disgusting, filthy way of generating electricity. I'll call it Victoria. It's it's disgraceful
compared to brown call versus other other colour. Yay.
Yeah, this blue call pink. No. Sorry, this black colour brown coat.
Yeah, what is the brown and black?
Brown? Dirty? It's dirty coal. You've got me, but no idea. Yeah, people say brown colour is the dirtiest way of generating it. Is there a
difference between black and brown colleagues whom there is 97? Can you look, I just feel like
so brown coal is classified as a low rank call because it has high ash and moisture content and less carbon which means it produces less energy when it's hated, whereas black co has more carbon less ash and less moisture, which means it has a higher energy content. Where
do we get black coal from?
The general bit surely this we've got a reason why we're doing Brown. So in Victoria, five brown cow
stations are built next to where they were the college so they dig it out and burn. Yeah, right. Anyway, the point was, they the People go Yeah, yeah but you still have to charge it up and that's brown cop so I did the math was that all right if I unfortunately did the math on my Twitter van that I was driving at the time now you're super
you didn't didn't do the
financial math and I did the math and I went right oh my god. And it was like okay, for me to commute in my van. It's 46 cubic metres of greenhouse emissions something like that. 46 cubic metres something like that your van Yeah. Just to commute to work and background something like that. Look it up 97
I was the look at what do you want
then I calculated how much you know emissions would be on producing the electricity to charge my bike bed. Yeah, and it was like
this much you doing century
20 centimetre by centimetre cube.
Yeah. That's how much carbon Yeah it's interesting the battery stuff like I wonder like how do you get rid of batteries I wanted that like a Brady and I like replace down Dyson vacuum battery and it's just sitting next round being because I want to do the lion.
Yes you have to be careful with that you can't just pick that one up
they can go on fire and stuff like batteries. Yeah I think I mind batteries
because there's battery acid in it which is toxic so what do I do with it? If you take it to LD they've got battery recycling big battery.
Take it to Office works.
Maybe officer extract
that's the classic answer but do you actually know if they accept them? mobile phones I do right? How big is the battery?
What is it from
a dice you went missing? It was a from $1
you know it so Boosted Board didn't have a booster board the electric skateboard company that's from the United States. They couldn't release their board in Australia or ship them here because they didn't have a Suppose that tree disposable plan and so I'm sure Dyson vacuums have a battery disposable plan within Australia so you can find out how you find out 97 how to get rid of my visa stations. I mean like how Harvey Norman?
I've got one from a laptop sitting on my rear man. What do you think of happy? I don't know what I can
get fact What's up
guy? Okay, so I'm gonna take a little while I got a
I'm in the process of experimenting using PTC cameras yep now you and tilt
zoom, I security looking camera because I don't have a 97.
So the idea is my studio have a couple of those and they can zoom in on different guests and take the video up, they can switch between them and move them around and the main thing is they can zoom in so that with optical zoom, so you can get a full res picture of someone with The camera being right in front of
you. Right we're
perfectly right so there's pro ones there for anything anywhere between three and a half to 10 grand sort of thing per camera per camera.
What's the big company that does the optic something?
There's PTC optics yeah bird dog bird dog I think like you're gonna be the best
why their homies from
from coming would
come in yet on your office second time to show you or no,
I I'll get to that. Okay, so first let me slander.
So, so so i i Logitech do one, they do two they do one a PD said pro to Pro. I'll suggest maybe taking that name off the box for staff and then just USB so it's like a web their for their for conference calls calls for that so people can just plug them into their laptop and off they go. That little remote, but it was like when was moving around with juddering and changing speed and it wouldn't stay focused someone
took it to the beach.
It was it was just straight out of the box. Yeah, and I was pretty annoyed and normally I get this Harvey Norman this is I said this to a salesman yesterday right but it's not fair because I will not go with the store I'm having their online system which door was I was impressed in which I love I've spent maybe 100 grand in there over the last few hundred years
12 years or something you're gonna get a fridge you're gonna get a computer all my computers I you know
how many how many screens you got? Me screen me TV screens, not just 4k TV every room.
But it's just like, if you need if you need a new fridge, then just go get it from there. Right. So
you say do you do like the
cash like I always bust their balls Yeah. Okay,
so you've got this salesman yesterday.
Now I said to him, this is my I was trying to work out a clever things like a light for me, right coming at him that Jeffrey didn't kill himself. I said to him, I said, I imagined that Harvey Norman, as an entity would take these online thing by the scruff of the neck and run with it and be the best and also have the showrooms and therefore just be the kings. But it looks to me like a bunch of dinosaurs that are running. See the comet coming towards Earth, and a running going Let's watch it from Yellowstone Park. And if you much better view that it looks like you're running towards Doom 17 days to get an online purchase.
How did you say this to the salesperson were you in store? Oh,
yeah, he was it was were you
on the recliner chair.
I don't think I'm relaxed enough to be honest too. Yeah, no, I was just trying it. I wasn't thinking.
I was just, there was nothing to do with him. I just said it just feels like
no I get it, but I think that's gonna resonate. like who are you talking to a young person sounds like you probably
But anyway, the point was I was frustrated
that it took seven eight
days for the item to arrive. Then I've spent a week tooing and froing with Logitech. They can also get back. I spent a week talking to Logitech online and they were great. I've never had like instant response, chit chat, chat fact. And he's and he's I sent him a video that we
just gave him a compliment if
you missed the word, right. So this guy was great. He's helping me out and he's gone that you're right. It's sheets back right it's it's what he said he said, something like that, but he said, we're going to send it definitely will fill in this form. With the serial number of the unit name address, we're going to send you a new one right away. expedite was his word Yeah, bam, I'm gone. You beauty that's nice to get some good good service because
I spoke to your man and you're pumped because you're saying that the idea was that you'd potentially be able to keep the shit unit. So you could just keep that static
and use it as a like 30% of its function in the corner as a second one now they're not they're not under me. But he report, he replied, The next day going, Oh, sorry. I didn't realise you're in Australia. Fuck off.
those exact words.
Like my wife tells
me a story tells me what she's thinking. No.
He said, you're gonna have to take it back to what you bought it. So I went this morning off to get to Harvey Norman
and London out and half an hour later they said now you have to go away with it and deal with it online. Hang on why so you couldn't get a refund not in a store. They said all we have different ways franchised and
she bought it through Harvey Norman. Online. Yeah, it's I mean,
it's not a twisted 17
days to deliver to deliver. And then you fuckin taken it. What do they want you to do? They're gonna have to send you a box to put it in like you're not fucking paying for the mail to get it back.
It's not paying for the mail. It's
a post office now I get it.
I hate that.
Just go just send it back. Well, this is scootering back.
Well, this is sorry, Mr. 97. Put in a thing for a hard drive to replace the way I was right Samsung, but you went and bought a bag and then send it off in but then they send the bag Yeah, yeah. But so so they were doing the right thing you just
preempted so ag not being delivered New Balance. I was doing a Black Friday sale yesterday. And Bree said I should order some shoes. And just like hang on what happened to your last shoes. So my last shoes were broken 97 March, sent them back. Like they said, are we going to do like your exchange or whatever, you sent them back. But the thing was, it was, this is the one trick. I emailed them probably November, December last year. And so there was four months between me sending that email them saying yet send it in and then set the time 97 sent a smelly marriage
because we we really do what
we redid the return. So you just got an email back from them saying, Oh, yeah, you gotta send them in memory. You know, apply for a return for men. So we apply for one and we sent it back in.
And so yeah, they 97 sent my shoes, and I never got a replacement. I'm going to contact them
early. So you forgot.
I emailed them as well, though. who forgot they forgot.
somebody forgot. How does the company just forget? You forgot as well.
I didn't forget
me bugging you since March.
They didn't say there was a theatre Windu there's no timeline on the things yeah true and so I'm like I you know I pro maybe they maybe they take two months
you haven't had a pair of shoes since like you've been walking around barefoot in Africa actually need
but you don't do you want New Balance now like that they're inferior to
free you might be bringing
this are your these are kr knows I see
the types of people that were the Essex what they kind of they kind of the trend that they though really the course you know there's just a lot of people who've given up
sense of fashion I think it's good
to sit tell one Tell me one other person who's
no that's not an Essex yes
that's not that's not the cool one that Oh
that's cool no no yeah
very low they're like athletic shoes
Coming back in hot mentioned
What did I do? Yeah.
I haven't heard anyone mentioned payments.
Come back to me john Capra, Iran I was john.
Kappa and the cap, you know, as john said straight up Alright boys happy weekend banter. Derek I love having you on the show. You're an exceptional human. We don't. We haven't done a moment of gratitude for scooter Derek. Yeah, I think what you're doing when we first met you, you were in another field. I just love how you you just navigate your way you're resourceful and you find ways to do shit. You're tech savvy. But at the same time, you're like a great blend of Old School New School. You're You're an old school dude embracing new school hard, harder than others. Appreciate the new school model. You bought
a G for computer like an apple computer that would have been what you would that have been 2003
No no, maybe
yeah because number 99 he bought it so you know Casey nice that talks about you know, I got my final cut pro right yeah, he's pulls it down from the the same fucking year. Derek was making videos for his local bowls club on was it iMovie or Final Cut?
What if it was on it?
No, no, it was Final Cut Pro. Yeah, to
me most is
the fact that he can also he can build an engine from the ground up. Like your resource like you're an old school man with the modern day, man and how important a piston
to a motor.
Well, without it it wouldn't work. Without nearly everything in a motor would because Tommy was saying the other day that
not to do with a fucking story is
taught automotive the automotive class you're doing with dumb because I was talking about pistons and you thought it wasn't relevant.
The pistons are the ones that come up and down is
actually say they're talking about pistons. Yeah, the pistons,
can you bring up the going to otter and type in? Yes, yes.
Yeah. But it's more if you're in a class, and they're trying to teach you about basic maintenance of a car, then, like, I'd say, 3030 seconds on pistons would do it. Just to let you know what it is just in case you're curious.
You need to change the piston going.
Working on a piston. You're at the very, you're in the gutter, not
to watch. It's got the oil all through it. It's going up into
a piston. Imagine this is a piston.
So yeah, Mark phone road, right here.
Right gas the mark. Right. So what happens is, you've got these that can move up and down, right? We're taking He
sure did Derek. I mean I hear you.
So that's your piston going up and down that leaves inside a cylinder yet but and then on top is a cylinder head that bolts down. So when you push the piston up it squashes What does the squash any anything within their gas? Nobody's in there like Sarah, and petrol, okay?
And so the dealer creates fire
that know it creates a massive amount of compression which is optimum for fire and then the spark plug that pushes right up there. Remember that's connected to a conrod connecting rod which is kind of on a bit of a sweet,
they said which actually is giving some getting traction
today on into a round motion right? Which is what you want for the engine. Yes, but so the pistons at the top, the gases are squashed up like fuck, right and then bam, the spark plug ignites that gas ball
and of course pushes the piston down. Because
is that why cars are loud
fast as it's an explosion? That's what's coming out. That's what you'd
expect it to be Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, but actually,
it's actually a fast burn rather than explosion officially. Yeah. legally. Why? I don't know it because it is, it's actually in slow motion. It's a the gases of being birds floating. So that pushes the piston down in a normal in a car. When that's coming down, there's another piston that's up here. And then, and that's my other hand up here for the listeners. And, and then that happens there and that pushes it down and they're all
spinning the wheel.
Each piston doing one wheel, the wheel,
So if you get a VHS or a six, yeah, six pistons with eight. That's what
it is. You get a video 1212 jpoa wv 12 a lot of boats
are you joking about the pistons and I
just find it amazing just to talk this stuff because
when I was your age, it was just like nobody wouldn't know it
deserve a special there's whipper snipper like a wee bit engine one going up and
down to usually to strike two strike,
which to me
it means you have to mix one pot boil. Yeah, yeah, cuz you lubricate the motor,
because there's only one. One is a stroke though.
Alright, this is gonna take some time. But a two stroke motor means that the, it's very, very simple. When the piston comes down, it sucks the fuel in then when it go and at the same time, the exhaust going out, believe it or not through holes in the cylinder. And then when it comes up at traps the gases and does it all again. So it's one that's two strikes down and up. The only two things that happened down let's the fuelling get the exhaust out pushes up very simple yeah a four stroke motor maybe kind of bit later and and it has valves in the top so when the piston goes down at the same time you can lobby Can you remember that you would have heard camshaft camshaft and your cam indicates when the valve opens to let the fuel in when it's going down. It's going to goes up. And as it goes up, another valve opens and lets the exhaust out. Then it comes down again. That's the fuel and then compressor. So there's four movements per explosion or
semi 30. What would that be two or four. So I don't know what a
nice gentle phone
I you've got a six.
but so does that what does that mean in regards to stroke? You got six cylinders.
And so that's all kinds of cylinder four stroke.
All cars they're all stressed out. Yes.
And that's based on because you can have six could you have six cylinders that a two stroke and a V six motorbike
Don't think so.
So after BMW stroke,
it's nothing. Why silithus?
Why do you have to put oil in a full strike engine,
FULL STRIKE engine runs the because the way that the pistons don't have to. The question rings, the things that go around the piston that create a seal on the cylinder. They don't have to go past holes. In a two stroke, they have to slide past holes, which means friction, you lose the oil thing. So in a four stroke, they have an oil ring. So it's just the oil that's in the engine gets pumped up, and it's on and it gets sort of onto the piston ring and lubricates it without it being lost. It just slightly just loses.
So what's a
Tesla do to strike you put the oil in it and it gets wasted and burnt.
So what's it Tesla doing by passing any of that stuff and like, I like to write to the The reward
is an electric motor the flywheel when electric motor puts we actually still feel.
electric motor, basically you're putting a charge into a magnet, right? So that and then have a bit of metal to putting it very very simply, if a bit of metals turning around and you've got electromagnet so electro magnet is a magnet that's operated by putting electricity into it, and that electro magnet, put some juice into that so that this part of the thing turning around is attracted. So turns that way. Almost like a magnet changes polarity and pushes it away. I mean hundreds of saying they can get it so just you turned it on and it just it just the magnetic force, it goes wrong. And it just constant battle of trying to get away from the magnet.
So this is why they can get 1.8 second hundred kilometres 60 bucks. Besides very because it's direct, it's instant Talk, talk from zero is the big talk. Ta lk talk around electric motors and that's the thrill Talk, talk
something going down up and needing to then fire and because of gas speeds with with with motors, especially the two stroke motors that I work on all your your real power it's called power bang, you can tell that it's going to suddenly gets quicker. That's because it's two strike motors are all about the speed of the gas moving. You know, if you didn't have an exhaust pipe on a two stroke motor, the exhaust comes out and so does the fuel down the exhaust pipe yet down the exhaust hole, so there's not enough fuel. But what happens is that exhaust pipe actually there's a shockwave of the last one that went off. So bam, the shockwave goes down the exhaust pipe has has a reaction. It's designed scientifically So that the shockwave bounces off the back of the pipe back down the pipe This is Soundwave chocolate right back down the pipe and pushes the fuel tax it back in just in time for the piston getting up there that's great I know so it's so
what does it backfire on that's when the fuel in the exhaust pot usually the fuel this fuel in the exhaust pipe that hasn't burned and then it does
James conspiracy Jimmy has a skyline 34 JTF a spec and he can get that thing firing at the back like he can get it shooting fire you want like that at the Arcadia show. It's happening Yeah, well it's it's a result of the engine doing something. The key bang
is when we were young you can do it came back was that are you driving along like hammering and then you turn your key off and then put it back on. So you know in the old cars, there's no a fire anything so the camera is still pumping fuel right through everything. Then you Put it back on and lucky. Well, and then a year later, you spoken about having to buy a new exhaust pipe with all your money.
And so quickly the electric vehicles, the ability to go from, you know, zero to 60. And you have a speed is that based on the size of the magnet?
Well, the the specs of the murder involve the size of the magnets and not the size of the magnet, how much power you put in the bolt? Is
it is there a point where the magnet gets to be and it doesn't have much of an impact? Like there's gonna be like a fine line, right?
I don't know the details of all this stuff.
In answer to your question, it's a faster process, which is why you can get that
zero to 100 years doesn't rely on any particular river Angel guess
it's probably a sufficiency within the magnet so potentially a smaller magnet with a higher electricity, input or whatever could potentially make I don't know anything. The thing
about progress is the progress of the the the petrol motor went a long way when they had EFI electronic fuel injection so it instead of having a carburetor and just sending what you think it needs one setting and the by what and it ended right
but they have sensors and everything became more and more efficient with the electric motors it's a similar thing the more electronic control and computer control you have over, the more they can control when these magnets turning on and off and you know, and stuff like that regenerative braking thing, so they reverse the polarity quickly when you put your brakes on and it acts as a generator. What is traction control
that's somebody with cars.
Nice seven the PC Bit Did he say piston? Yeah, no, I didn't say that. I didn't think of
it like he was sorry.
Sorry. That sounds like you're completely written off. It's gone. skis. Yeah, I got
that was I guess it was on the
show. That was Adam and Simon. Oh, yeah. What do you know about cars now?
No, I wasn't even about cars. It was like tinkering with fucking how do you take this piston and not even that,
but he was showing most stuff.
Exactly what I meant. We never worked on cars will never working on car engines. What you just said is what what is? abs? What do you say traction control. He says, I don't know about cars. We're talking about engines. There's engines that aren't associated with cars that have piston. What is he talking about? automotive class you just bought a boat in the details. It's automotive class working on fucking lawn mower. Engines what is the difference they will try and put one back together or something
that was used a lot of our engines as a shame yeah
what is the vector all talking about Victor Victor Victor Victor engines that was a really tough was he was he was he was the engine and so they will just putting those back to you that the point was never I would have enjoyed it more if we're trying to work on cars and shit but we're working on damn little engines for now they
go straight to 97
or related to motor vehicles pattern related to motor vehicle.
Yeah, so that but they call it automotive. I'm not my fucking choice what I
like automotive, but you would eventually get there. Like
this guy was just an all Vietnam vet who was angry and just fucking teaching us bullshit. Is this school. This was like a V Cal programme. They had the summer down for the viko kids at this. Tell me tell me.
correctly curricula, Victorian Certificate of applied dilemma. Yeah,
that was good. Hands on. stuff. But anyway,
so you know I love coming on this show. What I have to tell you. I thought about this that I can't really remember in the car It must have been nice. I right. I love it because you know I do a lot of I'd sit there and I produce engineer and edit so many different podcast shows now that and it's really hard to stay on the line like that's my mantra stay on the line Derek Do you got someone they're being interviewed? I like they're being interviewed by someone in Sydney like to advocate or my meals are there and they're doing it and I'm just the engineer. I like it. Always want to join in it's your show in the car. Yeah.
Okay, because I just could shout it in the head Tommy spent like that. That's not how you pronounce it.
If you didn't step up, you don't have
those or feedback.
Yes, they will just like but I love it. But But when I'm sitting there engineering headphones on being very, very quiet. Sometimes it's frustrating. Always want to join in. Yeah. And when I come on here, I get the get the chance to have
a good Yep. Yeah, we should definitely get it. One day I want it set up. So we have a live stream. And you could be listening on your phone and then you just, there's a Derek phone and you call in and you say, Hey guys, you know, hey, talking about that.
There will be some app
to have an app that allows you to instantly interact with Yeah,
yeah, it probably was app or the text message or
phone calls, phone calls or you can do there is time when you get that crazy button that says when you watch a live stream it says Do you want to ask if you can join I always have to say no every time
a little request pops up, you can just ignore it.
The reason why we ignore this because we can't we we don't feed the audio from the phone. Made a matter Yeah.
said if I get a share that up Tell me trying to get in sorry. Right.
Actually, I had those a moment. Yesterday, I was on the live like, someone was doing a live stream. random, random, it was actually someone who started following us for us, right? Then they hadn't followed us, but the daily talk should still follow him. And he was doing a live stream. And the daily talk show was the only person and so I like I was gonna my instinct is just to leave it straightaway. So I was like, you know, I'm just gonna keep it on. So he ended up like, Oh, hey, guys, they like waved to the daily talk show because we're the only ones there is that weird thing with our Hey guys, this is what I'm working on right now. Is like talking but it's just one
yeah. FaceTime each other.
I've done that a few times where I just put it on quiet and put the phone down and leave it
down to zero and I know who left?
Oh, someone's like, if so if someone's if there's a family, you know, and this has happened, right? But if there's a family, you know, was that me and one of the kids, the one of the kids, it says all they're doing Live Stream teenagers then you go ahead Have a look because they might be streaming the Bobby and that's my they my friends. And then suddenly it's it on their phone it says, Yeah, I'm good. Derek's watching your pillow fight.
I get straight x. I'm worried because I see it. Tell me
there's gonna be a preview that's the next thing it's a bt divisive like
five seconds. Hold on it you know when you long press an image on Instagram it comes up with like a little preview.
Oh yeah, you can
do that. And so it doesn't actually register but you get like a however long you hold a feature. That can be a
great feature. We need a way of knowing when you guys are going live because I want to say every live thing you do Really? Yeah. Except, like I can't you go because I don't know. You gotta go of like,
notifications. Yeah, definitely you can turn the bell on. Do you have push notifications on Insta? Surely
told when we're streaming it doesn't tell me
because you get the bell lets me presser like an alert
about on YouTube definitely on something.
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