Polly "PJ" Harding On Radio, Self-Improvement & Grief

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 527.

Tommy: Special guest in the studio, Polly Harding.

Polly: Welcome. Good afternoon, boys.

Tommy: Yeah, thank you. I mean, you've just, you've come here, you've been on air all morning.

Polly: Not all morning, 3 hours.

Tommy: 3 hours.

Polly: It's pretty easy, really.

Tommy: It's a fair crack.

Polly: I had a little nap and I watched a bit of Dawson's Creek before I— don't judge me.

Tommy: Really?

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: What season?

Polly: Uh, 2, nearly on to 3. I'm waiting for Pacey and Joey to get together.

Tommy: Yeah.

Polly: Did you guys watch it? No, no. I watched Dawson's Creek.

Tommy: It was very like, it was teeny bopper show. So maybe you missed it. Josh is a couple of years younger than me.

Josh: I've only just started getting into series in general.

Polly: I'm a bit like that too sometimes. Sometimes my attention span is really short and I really have to focus, but it's quite passive watching with Dawson's Creek and you always just get really happy when the theme song comes on. Yeah, that's what I wait for.

Josh: Are you taking it in? You understand?

Polly: Part of it.

Josh: Okay.

Polly: That's the beauty about it. You sort of just pick up parts of the storyline and then you just don't really watch an episode.

Tommy: And how long are they each?

Polly: Um, see, I couldn't even tell you that. Maybe like 40 minutes.

Josh: Yeah. Do you think that you could potentially get like a review segment on your radio show?

Mason: Okay.

Polly: So again, I am pretty outdated with the TV shows I watch and have a bit of an obsession with The OA. Apparently there's a podcast that is dedicated to just reviewing The OA.

Josh: I love it.

Polly: That is what I put my hand up for.

Josh: Did you want to host it or to be a part of it?

Polly: Be a special guest?

Tommy: You could do it. I'm sure you've got access.

Polly: Number 529 of the Seth Cohen fan. Did anyone watch the OC?

Tommy: Yes, Seth Cohen.

Josh: Oh, he was a Laguna Beach guy. I like reality shows.

Polly: See, I don't know what that is.

Josh: Laguna Beach and The Hills, you know, MTV, they did like the real version.

Polly: That's right.

Tommy: Um, which Mischa Barton, she was on—

Polly: she was on The OC.

Josh: She's on The Hills, like the new one.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, the thing with all these old shows is all I see from them is articles about how fat they've got. I didn't miss your back, mate. I was like, you won't even know who she is now.

Josh: I looked at it, I was like, holy shit, shit, they're right. I couldn't—

Tommy: it was brutal. But like, she's probably going through some shit. You don't think the article about it.

Polly: Yeah, but I suppose that was kind of, you know, you were known for how you looked on the show back then, and it was so—

Tommy: yeah, well, it's the hard one because you, you're super— it's like, what do you want to be famous for? I mean, many people are famous for many things now, but those old school stars are like No, that's what they became famous for. That's what they've stuck at. Or that's what they've stuck to them. The party girl. Party girl. Party boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: It feels like radio, you can get away with like not having to worry about the body image stuff as much. But in 2019 now everything's filmed.

Polly: See, that's what people say. They're like, oh, you're on radio, you can just wear your pyjamas to work. You can't anymore. Like we film every day.

Tommy: What's your schedule? What time do you get up and what time, like how much prep are you doing in terms of your appearance?

Polly: Very little. And I think as the year goes on, as the holidays approach, I sleep in. I'm just snoozing that button. I try and get up at 4 every day and then try and meditate for 20 minutes if I'm good. But I'm just snoozing at the moment, so I'll often literally push it till about 4:40 and then I'll roll out the door at about 10:02.

Josh: Okay.

Polly: And so in between that time, I need to get my clothes on. Wash my armpits if I'm not going to do the whole shower. Like, I'm just like, I'll just do a bit of a clean.

Josh: Does Invisalign require special treatment?

Polly: Or in the morning?

Josh: Yeah. Or like, even—

Polly: I mean, to be wearing it right now, but I'm just so conscious of my lisp.

Tommy: Yeah. With it in, it's a—

Polly: it's in—

Tommy: you have to train yourself to speak with it in. Yeah, it's a whole new—

Polly: yeah, I mean, I probably, if I'd really committed to it, the lisp would probably be gone. Um, but I'm wearing it at least every night.

Josh: That's good. Do you have to soak it?

Polly: Probably should. I'm a bit worried about my hygiene.

Josh: My girlfriend Bray actually said to me on the weekend, she's like, Saturday night sometimes I'll, uh, get like a little bit sort of relaxed and I'm like, I'm not even gonna bother like brushing my teeth going to bed. And she sort of brought it up with me. She's like, you gotta look after your teeth. I know, but I feel like the evenings— my mum's a dental nurse and she always said that you got to do it in the evenings because like during the night.

Polly: That's where you get the build up. Yeah, the tartare.

Josh: Yeah, the tartare. Is it called tartare?

Polly: Tartare, is it? No, no, no, that's a sauce.

Josh: Do you mean plaque?

Tommy: Tartare.

Polly: Tartare.

Tommy: It's one word. Why did you point to me and say tartare?

Polly: Thank you.

Tommy: She was looking at my tartare.

Polly: I don't know the specifics.

Tommy: I mean, there's so much bullshit getting thrown around. I heard someone say about my son, he's 2 and a half, he's got some good chompers. And someone said, oh, look, it doesn't really matter about brushing the teeth when they're young.

Polly: Oh no, there'd be so many bits of advice. It'd be so confusing.

Tommy: I don't know what to listen to.

Josh: Clean his fucking teeth.

Polly: Because there used to be the age of like, drink a bottle of milk, and now it's like, milk's bad.

Tommy: Yeah, well, my son this morning, he was calling me out. He said no, because we get him to the bed every morning and he's saying, no, Daddy, smell, go have a shower. Like, he fully says that now.

Josh: That's good.

Polly: It was my breath.

Tommy: No, it was my breath. It was just morning breath. Yeah, he had it too. I just, I told him his was shit, but he didn't get it.

Polly: But anyway, isn't that the beauty of kids though? You know that they're not going to not hurt your feelings. They're just going to be honest.

Josh: Can you be honest back? Yeah. Well, well, because he pinched me the other day and I went to pinch him and I was like, no, I won't pinch him. I'll just say, don't pinch me.

Tommy: I know it's such a reaction. He hits me and I want to, I want to hit him back. I gotta stop myself. Karate.

Josh: But maybe it's almost a good sort of showing you how the world sort of, you know, like a bit of karma.

Tommy: A beatdown for a beatdown.

Josh: Yeah. Well, just like, oh, look, when I pinch Josh, I get pinched back. So I won't do it anymore.

Polly: It is instant karma.

Tommy: So Polly, you host the radio show with Jase, who's in the show. He gave some great storeys about you guys coming over from New Zealand together.

Polly: It's like an arranged marriage. Yeah.

Tommy: It sounds like it.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: I used to always call it like a— yeah, what do you call it? Like, this is my work wife.

Polly: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I call him my work hubby.

Tommy: So your work hubby.

Polly: Did he tell you the storey about how when we started working together, because he's got a lovely wife, Lo, I said to him, I was like, hey, is Lo like threatened by me in any way?

Tommy: It's a good question.

Polly: And I actually said it even in front of Lo and they just cracked up in my face and they're like, no, there's nothing to be worried about.

Tommy: Yeah, I love it.

Polly: We are all good.

Tommy: Oh, so that was like they were laughing because they're like, was it?

Josh: Absolutely not.

Polly: Absolutely not.

Tommy: Like, it was just like, you just say platonic from the kids.

Polly: Rate yourself.

Tommy: No, I think it's, it's a unique relationship. Like, I remember because when I met my wife when I was in radio and there was some of those like work, hubby, work thing, it's like it can be. And I remember us having conversations when a new relationship, it's a bit confusing, right? Because it's a lot of time together.

Polly: Yeah, it is. And I think you're, if you do have a partner, they have to be okay with like that. And they do actually, like, you do actually have to have those chats being like, hey, I hope this is all good, and like work out your boundaries. And you know, like, you do have to work at it like a marriage.

Josh: Boundaries. What are boundaries? Why don't let Josh rub my shoulders like, yeah, no, you've actually gotten way better at touch. You won't like completely react straight away.

Tommy: What was it?

Josh: If I touched your arm or whatever, you'd push me straight away, whereas now I think, well, do you cuddle much?

Tommy: Do I?

Josh: Do Josh and I?

Tommy: No, we don't cuddle much. Do you and Jase cuddle much?

Polly: Oh, sometimes. Sometimes we just throw him a cuddle in the studio.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. Which I saw backfired the other day where he sort of, his hand sort of.

Polly: Oh yeah. Yeah. And anyway, so he accidentally grazed a part of my body, which ended up being a video. And then he proceeded to lather his hands in antiseptic.

Josh: Detail on the boundaries. What are some boundaries that you sort of set? What sort of style?

Polly: Oh, I think it will be like normally most things are a go, but if there is something we don't want to talk about, we'll say, hey, don't go here. And often you probably will end up talking about it. But I think sometimes when things are raw or whatever, you're like, okay, pump the brakes and he'll dance on it sometimes. And sometimes you'll think he's going to go there and it's like, nah, just joking.

Tommy: Do you think he's actually going to go there or you know No, I think we've got pretty good trust now.

Polly: Yeah, it took a while though. I think especially the first year I was very, very green and he was very, very cheeky and we'd come from quite different backgrounds. And so it took a bit of back and forth to really understand where we were coming from.

Tommy: Well, yeah, boundaries are found by sort of finding a compromise around going to the edge and going, yeah, I see, or even going over. I mean, you guys do live radio. So, yeah, Josh and I, we've— it's probably early days, a moment where we've stopped recording, I reckon once. And that's that boundary, right? That's fine. And going, that hasn't happened again.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: What about you guys? The live stuff?

Polly: Look, there's probably been like a couple of moments. I can't even think of specific examples now where it was like, oh, but it's a learning curve and you don't get better unless you probably do experience a couple of situations where you're like, okay, hey, 'That was not quite right.' Well, like the prank. 'How can we do this that suits us better?' Yeah.

Tommy: Pranking stuff you guys do really well.

Polly: And Jase is the genius with that stuff.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so Sam Newman was in the studio and like, I remember watching it, working out who, where the prank was and who knew. I actually had to— it's gone from my mind. I watched again. I can't work it out. It's so good that I'm going, Who was in on the joke? Who isn't?

Polly: Is this when he came in and lost it at Jase?

Tommy: Yeah, and he was losing it at Jase.

Polly: So everyone apart from me, which is quite a regular getup. Although 2020, watch this space. I plan to get my revenge.

Josh: Good.

Polly: Finally, after 5 years. Yeah, he often— Jase will be across a lot of that stuff because he is— he really thrives on ideas and that's kind of always been something that I have not done so well. And sometimes, you know, I'll spend a lot of time and energy trying to think of stuff and I'm like, actually, that's not my expertise. And I probably still try to be better, but I know that that's sort of where he really, really thrives.

Tommy: Where constructing an idea. Yes, correct.

Polly: And I suppose it comes with years of experience as well. You know, he's worked with a lot of great people in radio and he's got a lot of experience. So in terms of crafting an idea and executing it and making it work, he's really good at that. Whereas I sometimes just come up with a name that rhymes and I'm like, guys, I'm on to something.

Tommy: Yeah, that's all that matters. Yeah, we had the name The Daily Talk Show before we made it every single day. It's a good name.

Polly: It's a good name.

Josh: Thank you. It's— we've got the dot com.

Polly: Simple yet effective.

Josh: Yeah. I mean, people fuck it up a bit, but that's okay. They just call it the Talk Show Podcast, the Daily Show.

Tommy: Yeah, Daily Show with the boys.

Josh: That's right. Craig Bruce used our recording that we did with him on his podcast. He did a really nice intro and he's just fucked up the whole time.

Tommy: We love you, Craig.

Polly: Shout out.

Josh: That can happen. On the team front, having all the producers. You guys like to do a bit of stacks on, on in the, uh, at the pre-podcast.

Polly: Oh yeah, that gets wild.

Josh: How do you know when it's the line and when someone's gonna cry? Because I feel like I wouldn't. I would love it as long as I was stacking, like playing stacks, like I was stacking on. If I was underneath, it's the most fun being at the top.

Mason: Yeah.

Polly: Um, like, how do you know when you've gone too far?

Tommy: Yeah.

Polly: Oh, when there are tears. But I mean, it doesn't really, it doesn't really happen. Like, I think usually, you know, it's sort of like that part of the podcast is play zone. It's like fun, it's silly, and you know that it's all for a bit of a laugh. Yeah, sometimes at the end of the show I might be a bit emotional and tired and I'm like, I'm just hungry, I just need a feed.

Josh: But, um, what do you lean on when you're, when you're hungry? What type of content do you think you end up producing, or what type of person do you become?

Polly: Just, I don't know, moody.

Josh: Yeah.

Polly: No, actually, I'm not really moody. I don't know, just chitter-chat.

Tommy: Like, are you hungry right now? Are you? Confusion is a part.

Josh: Confusion. Or because are you doing the— I saw on Instagram you're doing the fucking detox.

Polly: Ah, a little, little hit of that.

Tommy: What's this?

Polly: Oh no, just like a little cold press thing. But it was, um, okay.

Tommy: But you're talking about soup and a juice.

Polly: I was wondering. Yeah, there's pumpkin soup and these chia puddings. And there was a protein bar.

Josh: You sold me on it. It's like a detox, but you get to eat. I'm like, this is fucking great.

Polly: Yeah, you can do like 2 days, 3 days, but I'm not the best at committing to things like that. But that one was quite good.

Josh: Does the team know when you're doing these things? Because Tommy always says, if we're in an argument, the first thing he says is, go eat something.

Polly: Well, there was a time where I was dabbling and trying to not do coffee, and my chat was so shit that morning. Alex was like, hey, I think we're gonna have to do the coffees. I was like, okay.

Mason: Cool.

Tommy: I mean, working in a team and definitely working as the on-air person, there's a lot of exploring of who you are, what you stand for, that you need to go through. Is there a lot that you've worked out as an adult?

Josh: Mm.

Tommy: Oh, we think is because of the job.

Polly: Well, we often say that our show is like therapy because when you're acquiring content, it's things that are going on in your life. And often you'd actually, in an everyday scenario, probably be too afraid to talk about it. But you're like, oh, someone might relate to this, I'm going to talk about it. And then in turn you find it's actually really therapeutic.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, there's some— we've done like extreme honesty, that kind of thing, which you— I won't go there with what came out, but episode 14, it had nothing to do with Joe Rogan too. But so you got it.

Polly: I had Joe Rogan on the show just to catch people up. Joe's my co-host, said that Joe Rogan.

Josh: The funny thing is it's not even a stitch-up, it's just misinformation.

Polly: What was his name?

Josh: Seth Godin.

Polly: Seth Godin? Yeah, Jase is literally going around work saying, you guys have met Joe Rogan.

Tommy: I think it's gone from Seth Godin to Seth Rogan to Joe Rogan. It's down the loop, but it has.

Polly: Just claim all three.

Tommy: Um, what, anything else that you've worked out about yourself?

Polly: Um, I have learned that there's a lot of other people who are pretty strange out there.

Josh: Yeah.

Polly: Like, I think when I first got into radio, I had this mindset of, I want to be that cool MTV host, and I probably tried to be someone I wasn't really. And then with time, and I think this sort of was achieved by the chemistry with Jase, that I learned to just completely own all my sort of flaws. And with that, that's where you get the true essence and the magic of the show, I think. And that's where anything can happen.

Josh: Was it—

Tommy: is it doubling down on who you are?

Polly: Because it's funny, it's because I guess at the end of the day, you know, it's a form of entertainment, you know, it's content. And so I guess you can select the aspects of yourself, but I still think you have to tap into that true part of yourself. You can't fake it.

Tommy: Well, I think we've all got versions of ourselves.

Polly: Yeah, I think so.

Josh: How does it allow for change? Like if you change as a person, say if you don't want to be I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

Polly: Like, I'm nearly 30 and there's some things I'm like, I don't know, can I still do all this crazy shit we've been doing? Like, am I just going to look like, I don't know, because you're into like the, the health and wellness stuff. I try. I like to think I'm about balance. I like to think I try and nurture the body, but I also have fun.

Josh: Do you get into the stones and stuff? Have you got a crystal?

Polly: Get stoned.

Josh: No, stop. We did that. We did that in LA.

Polly: Did you?

Josh: Yeah, we did a secret video.

Tommy: Oh, I heard about that.

Josh: Just quickly.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Joe Rogan was there. You're thinking of Elon Musk.

Tommy: Just quickly, getting high, New Zealand used to have these things called party drugs.

Josh: Party drugs?

Polly: Party pills.

Tommy: Party pills.

Polly: Really dangerous.

Tommy: Oh dude, I was over there 20— 2009 maybe.

Josh: I thought you were going to say 2012, good year.

Tommy: Nah, it was a bit later. But did you ever have those? You would have been quite young.

Polly: No, I was a real goody good and I was too scared of that stuff. And then there was the synthetic weed, which was really dangerous.

Tommy: This was legal, so they pulled it off the market, but it was— you You could buy it so many places that I thought, I thought you might have just—

Polly: I definitely remember.

Josh: Yeah. Do you know the crystals? I can imagine you getting into the crystals.

Polly: I've got crystals. I charge them under the moon.

Josh: I charge them under the moon.

Polly: Yeah, you get them charged.

Tommy: USB or?

Polly: No, no, just under the moon.

Tommy: Just the moon power.

Polly: Just exposed to the old light. Yeah. I'm actually not that good. Some people always have to remind me. And so I've just put them out on a table so they're constantly charged. So then when it comes around to full moon, I'm so bad at it.

Josh: Kill the crystals or no?

Polly: No, you can't kill the crystals.

Josh: How do you know if it has charged? Well, there's no way of telling.

Polly: You feel the energy.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Do you need no clouds for charging to happen?

Polly: No, I don't think so. I think it just has to be supermoon or full moon.

Josh: So it's not like solar power.

Polly: Okay.

Tommy: No, that's— and so do you feel like these things, like, because you can— anyone can call bullshit on— yeah, those kind of—

Polly: oh, anyone can call bullshit. But I think I got exposed to all this stuff because my mum, she was a very mainstream doctor for so long, and then my dad got unwell quite a while ago. And that sort of led her down this crazy pathway, which is where she got opened up to Reiki and the vegan diet and all that stuff. Like years ago, no longer vegan, been through an absolute roller coaster.

Josh: Have you seen Game Changers?

Polly: I was just reading an article by Joe Rogan.

Tommy: Oh yeah, the debunking episode.

Polly: Yeah, I didn't watch it, but yeah, he was— they were claiming that, you know, it was very, very one-sided.

Josh: Yeah, it was. Yeah, I was vegetarian for a week. Sorry, a month. Yeah, while we're in the US, I just ate a lot of like peanut butter cups. Carbs? Yeah, a lot of carbs. Can you tell?

Polly: No, no, you look great.

Josh: I feel it. I feel it. I feel— no, I do feel it.

Polly: You look svelte.

Tommy: I've been calling him Buttercup.

Josh: I had a lot of peanut butter.

Polly: Well, that's the thing, you can be vegan or vegetarian and be very unhealthy, but you can— but if you do it right and you eat well, and I guess you make sure you get all the nutrients in, fine, that works for a lot of people. But Yeah, it's interesting when people get on these bandwagons.

Tommy: And so mum was exploring that stuff.

Polly: Yeah. And so that kind of opened me up because, I mean, she's got a very strong medical background. So seeing her, you know, starting to talk about all these ideas, it really opened me up.

Tommy: Is that a shift in belief for someone who is a doctor? Is this like—

Polly: I think she was always a hippie wanting to come out. Like back in the day, she very nearly could have become like a guitarist and a white little—

Tommy: Doctor or Spanish?

Polly: I wanted to do Spanish.

Tommy: Yeah, before the podcast you were saying—

Polly: Well, no, I said I was going to do radio or Spanish. Everyone's like, what do you mean you're going to do Spanish?

Tommy: What's doing Spanish?

Polly: Well, Bachelor of Arts degree, but I would have literally gone so aimlessly to university.

Tommy: I don't know what I was doing.

Josh: The thing with, I guess, majoring in a second language, I would always feel that there's going to be other people who are going to be better.

Polly: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And I, so I was really good at Spanish at school. Don't want to brag, but that was my best subject.

Josh: Did you go to any country that spoke Spanish?

Polly: No, I didn't. But, and then I went to Barcelona a couple of years ago and I was like, awesome, I want to learn Spanish again. And so I did it in reverse and I started doing night lessons after I'd come back, but I couldn't tell you what I learned in that time.

Josh: Is that what I did? The whole— it's one that the FBI uses. Which got me Duolingo. No, that's not Duolingo, but it's similar. It's something Stone '97. Do you know what it's called? But I paid like a bunch of money. It was like an app where you listen to it and you just have to say it's all phonetic or whatever.

Polly: That's quite a good way of learning.

Josh: Yeah, but it was, I didn't get anywhere.

Polly: I can remember my oral at school. Hola, mi nombre es Polly y vivo en Christchurch, Nueva Zelanda. Tengo dos hermanos mayores que se llaman Sam y Tom y cuando era pequeña. And then that's all I can remember.

Josh: It sounds so good.

Polly: It sounds good. But really I'm saying, hi, my name is Polly. I've got two brothers.

Josh: It sounds like SBS.

Tommy: Is Tom one of your brothers?

Josh: Yeah.

Polly: And Sam.

Tommy: Tom and Sam.

Josh: Yeah.

Polly: And then cuando era pequeña, I think it means when I was younger, but then I can't remember what I said.

Tommy: What fascinates me is the accent that comes along with, say you become fluent in Spanish and you don't speak English ever again.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Or you do an American accent and you fit into a certain region. Like you grow up there in California, you sound a bit California. You grow up in New York, you sound like in New York when you just started speaking another language.

Polly: What do you—

Tommy: where do you sound like you're from?

Polly: Kiwi, bro. Kiwi, yes.

Josh: Did you ever do, like, what is it called when you're trying to soften your accent or whatever when you came to Melbourne?

Polly: I had to take Australian accent lessons.

Josh: Who runs that?

Polly: I think it was like a voice coach back in New Zealand. And yeah, I was ordered to work on my vowels and I had to watch Home and Away episodes. Really? Maybe like some old school Neighbours.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: And so I kind of like that.

Polly: Yeah. And so I had like 4 different classes and I was like, cool, this is going really well. And like, I have like moments of it. And then I got here and it was just weird. Like, it's obvious I'm a Kiwi.

Josh: What were some of the words that you would have to focus on?

Polly: I can't, like, I hate words with I and the station we're on is Kiss. So I'm like, kiss. And I get such anxiety every time I have to say it. Kiss.

Josh: I can't say it.

Polly: Kiss. Otherwise it's cuss.

Josh: Kiss. Kiss.

Polly: I say kiss.

Josh: Kiss.

Tommy: That's fine. Kiss. Is it? There's no like, I mean, it's fish.

Polly: See, that doesn't sound natural. You don't believe me? I'm an Australian.

Josh: Fish. Fish.

Tommy: Fish. Fish.

Polly: Like, I do that kind of like upward inflection every time I say it, so it stresses me out.

Tommy: Well, I think Jay sounds pretty Aussie.

Polly: Yeah. So hopefully that balances us out.

Tommy: Well, I think he's gone.

Josh: And I was saying that we— he sounds a bit Kiwi.

Tommy: Well, he's got—

Josh: I think he's probably—

Tommy: how many years did you you guys been together?

Josh: 3.

Tommy: So I feel like the Aussie could go towards the New Zealand quiet.

Polly: I think he did become a little bit Kiwi. It's funny, I think, because yeah, you constantly stamp out phrases. Like when I got here, I'd say, oh, I had a wee dance outside. Yeah, people would be like, why were you taking a piss? And dancing?

Tommy: Well, I remember it was like, if you leave, if you're, if you have an accent up until 7, so you live in America and you you don't lose it past a certain age.

Polly: Yeah, I heard that. That would make sense.

Tommy: You've still got it. It's not going anywhere.

Polly: I'm just not going anywhere.

Tommy: Do you like Australia?

Polly: Love it.

Josh: I mean, what is she going to say? To be honest, what else? You're not going to say you hate it.

Polly: I love it. I actually do love it.

Tommy: Well, I mean, you come from New Zealand. It's so beautiful.

Polly: It's very similar. And Melbourne is very— it reminds me of home. I think people are pretty cool here. They're pretty down to earth. Food's really good.

Josh: Are you looking for a new place at the moment or no?

Polly: Just found one.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: Nice.

Josh: Because you were looking at like—

Polly: I'm about to go sign some papers afterwards.

Josh: Oh, that's exciting.

Polly: Everyone's like saying I've been treating it like I've just got a house.

Tommy: Oh, like you bought.

Polly: I know, like we were popping champagne on Friday and they're like, you haven't bought this place. You're literally just moving in and paying rent and paying off their mortgage.

Josh: It's pretty hard when you do it because I feel like property managers for the most part are quite unlikable people.

Polly: Yeah.

Josh: And so it's this one moment.

Polly: Not the one I've got right now.

Mason: Well, that's the whole thing.

Polly: Harry's my boy.

Josh: That's it.

Tommy: Yeah, wait till Harry fucks up and gives you the wrong door key when you go to your first night.

Josh: But I feel like it is that weird state where when you find the place and it's all working, you work out how to become best mates.

Polly: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do whatever Harry needs. Any tips? Should I take Harry something?

Josh: Should I take my guests?

Polly: Too much? Too strong?

Tommy: No, our one just gave us a hamper. We went and picked up the keys and I thought, this has been the best. This has been the best dealings with any agent. I got to the front door. They forgot to give me the flyscreen door key. Couldn't get into the house.

Polly: Oh, that's ugly.

Tommy: I had to jump the fence. Getting through the side door, open the garage. It was fucked. So annoying.

Josh: And make sure you've got like the letterbox key if you've like— if there's a letterbox key, all those types of things.

Polly: Yeah, I've cut a few keys for quite a few people at the current house.

Josh: Well, this is the thing, I don't mention it.

Polly: Have you got your hypothetically 3 years ago? No.

Josh: Okay.

Polly: No, and I smashed a couple of lights by accident which I've got to replace. When do they cheque So I don't have to move out till the 11th, but I'm about to go on holiday, so I kind of want to—

Josh: Are you going to stain clean the carpet?

Polly: I've heard they're quite pedantic here in Australia.

Josh: You don't have— because I thought that by law they had to. Tommy will do anything he can to get out of doing shit that he has to do.

Polly: Do you guys know how to get rid of wood stains? Wood stains? Like water plant— like plant water?

Tommy: Yeah, it probably has to be sanded back and restained. Yeah, right.

Josh: We were house—

Tommy: That's not happening. High chance that has to be.

Josh: Well, I completely— I was looking after a friend's house and their dog pissed on the wood and we didn't wipe it. We didn't see it straight away and it just burns through the wood. Absolute nightmare. Really? Yeah.

Tommy: What about Whiteheads?

Josh: No, it's just like a city border. No, it was like it's the acidity in it or whatever.

Tommy: I guess if I pissed on the floor, I would clean it up straight away.

Josh: Yeah, well, the dog didn't, so—

Tommy: Little bastard. You guys have spoken to a lot of big names over the years. Something Josh has anxiety about is the kiss, hug, or handshake.

Josh: Oh, I've got the domain name.

Tommy: Do you? What's the domain name?

Mason: Kiss or handshake?

Josh: No, hug, kiss, handshake. There's no and.

Mason: .com.

Polly: Oh, what do you do when you meet someone?

Josh: I don't want to be too presumptuous.

Polly: What do I do with you?

Josh: We just, we hugged, but then I heard a kiss.

Polly: It was a scene from Dirty Dancing. It was amazing.

Tommy: Crazy. A bit like Bieber. You've spoken with babes.

Polly: Do you know there's an article on the Daily Mail and I just remember this and it's like, Bieber flirts with radio host.

Tommy: Oh yeah, he had his shoulder just like, his head just resting on the barbecue.

Polly: I think he was still drunky. Yeah, we did a Bieber barbecue. See what we did there?

Tommy: Did you come up with that name? That was your idea?

Polly: I don't think I did. I would claim it to the end of the earth if I did, but I didn't.

Josh: Yeah.

Polly: And he, we got on a great time. Like he was just pretty playful that day.

Tommy: Fucking Coronas.

Polly: Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was.

Josh: He said that I looked like Seth Rogen when I— and, and Karl Sandilands was on.

Polly: What?

Josh: Yeah, no, because I was filming for Fifi and Jules on the radio show back in the day. And he, he was very nice. He introduced himself to all the crew and he said, oh, you look like Seth Rogen.

Polly: Seth Rogen, not Joe Rogan.

Josh: Seth Rogen.

Tommy: In 10 years he'll be Joe Rogan.

Josh: Yeah. Karl Sandilands. Then said, yeah, before Seth lost all the weight. Which, I mean, pot kettle. I mean, you know, Kyle. But anyway, is this when you were with VJ?

Polly: 4 weeks ago?

Josh: It was a while ago. Thank you. But, um, that was a bit upsetting.

Tommy: Did that really sting? Like, were you actually emotional about it? Because you probably could have said—

Josh: Oh yeah, I'm trying to think. No, I mean, when you get— at least you've made it, you've made it. It's a good story. It's a good story.

Tommy: He probably doesn't remember, to be fair. Do you think these people that you meet, because a lot of them, it feels like a friendship when you're around them because you've got this, you're building this rapport on air. You reckon a lot of these people you'd—

Polly: would not remember us? They would bar us out. Absolutely.

Tommy: Any, any that you think would?

Polly: Um, oh, No.

Josh: So do you just have to presume? You just have to presume always that they don't care?

Polly: Yeah, I think so. Like, I think go in expecting the least and hope for the best. And then if, you know, they want further communication, then they will. Do you remember the band HAIM?

Tommy: HAIM? Yes.

Polly: H-A-I-M. No, I'm sorry. Um, friends of Taylor Swift.

Josh: Mm. But do they support her maybe?

Polly: No, no, no. They, yeah, they're in their own right quite a successful band.

Josh: I guess you're friends now.

Polly: We're not friends, but we'd interviewed her. Well, I'd interviewed her with them at the studio, and then I was walking down the street later on that night and they drove past and they're like, hey, come to the club with us.

Josh: Oh, that's good.

Polly: I was like, oh cool.

Josh: But I didn't.

Polly: I wish I did now. Because now they're friends with Thomas Watt.

Tommy: What was the thought?

Polly: Nah, I had to go to bed or something, or I don't know what I was doing.

Tommy: Was this a midweek?

Polly: Yeah, it was when I was doing the night show, and I think it was like the end of the day. And yeah, they were hitting the scene in Auckland.

Tommy: How do you go with like having a job that's so playful and fun, but you need to take serious because it's one of the top roles in the country, but also allowing yourself to sort of let loose or have that fun? Like I found I struggled with not being so like uptight. I need to get my sleep, you know.

Polly: You have to be strict with breakfast radio. Really, it is an emotional roller coaster if you don't get sufficient sleep. And I reckon I was verging not on insomnia because I know insomnia is actually really serious, but normally I sleep really well and there was sort of a couple, like a month or two earlier this year that I just, I couldn't. And I'd be waking up in the morning and I'd have like, and I know parents probably get this all the time, but it was awful. And and you just feel like you're running on empty. And yeah, I think you need to fill that cup to be able to go into the studio and fully—

Josh: what's your relationship with your phone?

Polly: Look, not always the best, not always the best, but at the same time, um, crave not having it. My boyfriend lives on a farm in New Zealand, and when I get there, I can just He might disagree with this, but I guess it's true.

Josh: It's not true. We're not having you on this week.

Polly: Um, no, like, I really do crave that time apart from it because you get so sick of reading news headlines every day that are so sensationalised and everything. Like, I wonder what that does to your psyche on a daily basis.

Josh: Why do you think there is a move? Because I've been going on news.com.au to procrastinate and it's always really, really, really depressing. Do you reckon there's more like sex pests and stuff nowadays? Like, I feel like there seems to be a bit of a trend.

Polly: I think people can't get away with stuff they used to, and so a lot of that's been called out, which is good. But it's just, yeah, you need a break. Like, I genuinely wonder what that kind of repetitive negative, negative, negative does to you.

Josh: It's not good.

Tommy: I thought I had something in my face for a second. She's getting very handsy towards my forehead. Do you actually lock it away? Or what do you do?

Polly: I don't lock it away. I did try and do about 2 weeks off it maybe last year, or was it earlier this year? I can't remember. And I think I got through maybe like 12 days. There might have been a few breaks in between, but on the whole I was pretty proud of that because I was like, I'd never be able to do that.

Tommy: I think breakfast radio is a great— like, it gives you this amazing ability to have this huge wide span of general knowledge about not much. Like, I found, I found, like, I found I just knew, like, my, my wife at the— when she's my girlfriend, she's the same kind of person. I was like, oh yeah, I saw that, and it's about this, this, and that. I don't know much about it, but I've read all the fucking headlines.

Polly: You're the headline person that you don't actually know any depth to it or any content. It's like, oh yeah, I heard about that, and then they'll ask a follow-up question.

Josh: Like, don't ask.

Tommy: All right, let's ask you a few. Um, Kim Kardashian's just been in a new ad. Give us the lowdown.

Polly: She was on the Uber Eats, uh, latest campaign with um, Magda.

Josh: Do you know how much money they would have gotten for that? I was—

Polly: I want to say like a million.

Tommy: That was the article I was reading.

Josh: Oh, what did they say?

Tommy: How much?

Polly: Oh, how much?

Tommy: Uh, 500, 300,000 or something.

Polly: Really?

Josh: Uber Eats vouchers. It's outrageous.

Polly: Well, did you see the interview with Lisa Wilkinson and then there was just the Uber Eats bag, right? No, back of the interview. I love that. Good product placement.

Tommy: Oh yeah, should be made. What else is going on, Josh? Anything that you've— that That in the news.

Josh: I don't know. I always remember the dark stuff.

Tommy: Okay. Is what is open near Tullamarine Airport?

Polly: That surf wave machine. Chris Hemsworth was on it the other day. It'll be opening in January.

Josh: That's very good.

Polly: He tested it out with another one, one surfer. Maybe.

Josh: It's serious.

Tommy: So this is just shit that come in my feed.

Polly: When am I really going to use that?

Tommy: Where did you find it? That's more the point. Like, when are you actually taking it in. I don't remember the moment that I took half this shit in.

Polly: That's the thing, sometimes like you'll be on your phone going, oh, I better just cheque the news again, cheque it again, cheque it again. But I almost think it's better actually just to reserve a bit of time at night.

Tommy: Yeah.

Polly: And then kind of just, because otherwise, oh, it's exhausting. It's actually fatiguing.

Tommy: But it serves you though, right?

Polly: Like what, constantly checking?

Tommy: No, it serves you knowing based on the role you're in. Like it's handy to have all this stuff on call.

Polly: But still, I always sound really clueless on air. Jase would be like, and then, you know, what colour was the blouse that he was wearing? I was like, I don't know.

Tommy: That was a bad example, but he's a stirrer though.

Polly: He's always like a stirrer and he knows that I will often just know the headline. But I'm not. It's all good fun.

Josh: What do you do if you feel like you're going to get burnt out? What do you actually do?

Polly: What, when he starts asking questions?

Josh: No, no, no, no, no. When you're going to burn out.

Polly: Yeah.

Josh: Hashtag serious time. Change of pace.

Tommy: Hashtag more crystals.

Polly: Yeah, hashtag more crystals. I like to use float tanks. Mm-hmm. Great. Really good if you're really hooked.

Josh: So if it was like 3 PM today, you're feeling completely exhausted, you're worried about tomorrow.

Polly: Yeah. Well, it depends if I'm like truly cooked and I just can't do anything because otherwise I do a run because often that gives me a bit of like a bit of energy or do some yoga. Yeah. Little Nike Run app.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: Yeah.

Polly: Um, might just do 4K. Like, I don't do much, but just enough to get endorphins going again, because you just— with Breekie, you go into this like constant jet lag. Um, and so whenever I exercise, I'm like, oh, that's what it's like to feel normal again.

Josh: And so when you do the podcast bit at the end of the show, so you do like a 30-minute conversation, which I love, it's my favourite part. Uh, do you feel like you bring in a certain energy because it's at the end?

Polly: Well, I worry about that sometimes. Sometimes I just sort of remind myself because I'm like, oh no, I'm obviously tired. And like, this is the start of the podcast, so that's when like all the characters of the show, that's where they save the day. And you know, you get the really good banter.

Josh: Do you think that you need to hide when you're feeling tired on air, or can you lean into it?

Polly: Oh, I don't think anyone wants to tune into the radio and you hear, oh shit, welcome to the radio station, like, I'm so tired today. Oh, it's really good. Sleep last night. I think if there's maybe a relatable aspect, like sometimes if Joe's been kept up by the kids all night, you know, we might mention it and then we might give him a bit of shit. But I don't think it's very captivating to hear someone talking about how constantly tired they are.

Josh: And so you'll go for a run and then what will you do?

Polly: Um, yeah, it'll depend. I, um, meditation really, really changed, um, sort of my outlook. This year when I learned it, it was, um, the transcendental— or later, I almost said the wrong one.

Tommy: Is it TM?

Polly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: Mantra?

Polly: Yeah, mantra.

Tommy: What's your word?

Josh: I can't tell you.

Tommy: That's why I love to test. I always test these people that are doing this.

Polly: Secret.

Josh: Is it sort of, uh, is it like noodles?

Polly: You got it.

Tommy: Word or no?

Polly: No, it's sacred. Crystals.

Josh: Is it an English word? You can't even say that.

Tommy: What's the rules?

Josh: You have to pay the $1,100.

Polly: I know, but I'm really scared that I'm gonna break them because TM, it's like, what, like $1,100 bucks to do it?

Josh: Like, it's a— it's not the, the cheap—

Polly: it's like a 3-day course.

Josh: Um, do you have to hang out with other people?

Polly: No, I— she just did it with a friend.

Josh: Oh, that's good.

Polly: Um, and it's only like maybe 90 minutes per day over like Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And it was— yeah, it was so— it was so much easier than I thought to learn. And it's just so simple. And it gave me that energy that I was craving because I was just getting really tired. Um, and it gave me that sort of boost in the afternoon where normally I'd be like, sugar, or like You know, that 3 PM slump. I just— so I do it once in the morning and I do it once in the afternoon.

Josh: Do you do it at work?

Polly: You can if you can slip off to a room for 20 minutes.

Tommy: Yeah, so you need full silence.

Polly: Well, ideally, ideally you can do it like in— if you're on the way to the airport and it's like a 20-minute ride or something, that's perfect.

Josh: An Uber, you could do it in an Uber.

Polly: Yeah.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Tesla Autopilot.

Josh: Have you seen the new Tesla?

Polly: I knew that was coming. See, again, Elon Musk.

Tommy: So what happened? Give us the top line.

Polly: Elon Musk is out to 7 $700 million.

Tommy: I don't know. Oh yeah, his valuation personally has gone down $700 million.

Polly: Was it actually $700 million?

Tommy: Yeah, it was $770 or something. That was the headline. But then it was like, oh, it's— yeah, he's since, since the botched announcement, I say it's all just bullshit.

Josh: Like, yeah, I liked the new Cybertruck.

Polly: What's the go with the old Tesla truck? Is it like a Tesla car where it goes to zero to 100 It goes fast.

Josh: We're getting one as an outside broadcast vehicle for the show. 97 put a preorder down.

Polly: No.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: $150 you pay to get the preorder for the preorder.

Polly: So are you just going to hire it out? You're not actually going to—

Josh: No, we're not hiring. We're not fucking hiring out service business. An ATV server. No, we're going to use it just for the show. No, no.

Polly: Every— So you're going to buy it?

Josh: Yes. That's the plan.

Tommy: It's 2 years off.

Josh: So we're going to be one of the financial—

Tommy: We make a lot of promises. We make a lot of promises on this show.

Josh: Go.

Tommy: And I like this one. It's a forward, it's a future, future plan that might not pay off if we don't have the cash or if it doesn't come to Australia. But I like it.

Josh: That's what debt's for, right? That's how debt works.

Polly: What other, you know, mad investments have we made?

Tommy: I mean, this studio.

Josh: That's good.

Tommy: The sign.

Polly: Did you put the wood up?

Tommy: Yeah.

Polly: I love it. I feel like I'm in a cabin in the middle of the countryside.

Tommy: We found some on the side of the road.

Josh: Actually, the Titan, the woods from the Titanic.

Polly: No, it's not.

Josh: I can't lie.

Tommy: It's all floorboards.

Polly: You could actually tell me then, I believe it. Jason, I'll be exchanging all these incorrect facts about you guys.

Tommy: Yeah, tell them that we've got floorboards from the Titanic.

Josh: I've got a Tesla. Yeah.

Mason: No.

Tommy: And we bought a Tesla. Say that. You can say we bought a Tesla.

Polly: But you haven't.

Josh: Pre-ordered.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What's the biggest misconception of you? What do people always get wrong?

Polly: Oh, I don't know.

Josh: Someone called you Fifi on air, didn't they? Oh my God, they did.

Polly: They did. That was— I really enjoyed that.

Josh: That was a good morning, Fifi.

Polly: I lost her.

Tommy: Surely it's just a prize pig calling both stations.

Polly: Probably.

Tommy: Okay.

Polly: I mean, I do. I don't think people actually know who they're listening to half the time when they listen to us because we are probably still very new here in Melbourne. And I think it takes a bit of time for identities to actually become ingrained and become like a household name. Like, I don't think it just happens overnight.

Tommy: I mean, the billboards help when you drive down.

Polly: We go through phases of having a lot of them. Yeah, last one my nostrils were flared a lot. I was like, oh man, it's always like a hindsight thing. At the time you're like, yeah, great photo.

Tommy: And could you— did you ask them, deflare please, deflare?

Polly: No. Well, they're all up and then you can't really do it.

Josh: What causes a flare?

Polly: Um, I don't know, I'm just extra flare prone.

Tommy: It just makes your nose more defined. Josh's nose becomes the way you draw a fake nose when you—

Josh: when you play.

Tommy: Can you flare them out?

Polly: I can do Mr. Bean.

Josh: So misconceptions, what do you think?

Polly: I don't know. I don't know what about me, about the show, about you.

Josh: Um, what do people come up and say to you that you think will have—

Polly: I thought you were blonde.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Yeah, from listening.

Polly: So they've taken that. Um, and what else do they say?

Josh: I mean, there's levels of highlights.

Polly: Oh, are you and Jase getting it on?

Josh: Okay, sure. People thought that Tommy and I were partners. Really?

Tommy: Well, they just said, are you a couple?

Polly: Yeah, I think that's natural if you've got that chemistry on air. I think people want that to be the case because it's so much more juicy if that's actually happening. But no, we get it, especially with these videos where we're quite intimate. Well, not intimate, but there was this one where we were trying a TikTok video the other day and we're quite like in each other's space. They were like, you sure you're not? I'm like, no, it's just TikTok.

Tommy: It serves, it serves for it, it serves the hype.

Polly: Definitely.

Tommy: I mean, it's similar to the Joe Rogan thing. Really?

Josh: What's the, what's the conversation on TikTok? Um, how does that, how does that conversation happen?

Polly: What do you mean?

Josh: Well, I guess like getting on there, we've thought about it. I don't necessarily know if I've got sort of the cool factor.

Polly: I feel like I'm going to break a limb. Like every day it's like, do this crazy thing. And I don't know, I feel like it's not going to end up pretty. But yeah, we sort of, we're dabbling in a few videos at the moment. But Jason, I just feel so old. Like mum and dad have just joined social. Like, I don't know. I don't know if you guys find that. But then I know that it's actually not just a platform for kids. Yeah, I mean, taking off.

Tommy: The hard thing was when Ash Williams put up a post about, um, it was just like one of his tweets. He said, if you're over 30 and on TikTok, you need to be on the watch list.

Josh: And then I got tagged in it, so I was like, yeah, because Tommy's big on TikTok.

Tommy: Well, I had one viral video. No, 140,000.

Polly: It's not counting.

Tommy: I mean, it counts for you.

Polly: Is it likes or is it views?

Tommy: Plays? 100 and something. It's a weird one though. Like, what have you learned about building audience Um, the likes thing's funny.

Josh: It's almost like the whole like, guess how much dinner was? Yeah, it's like likes, no views, but views are good.

Tommy: Yeah, I don't even know how it works. Is there likes and views?

Josh: You know how it works. You, you went viral on it.

Tommy: So, well, you didn't know that?

Polly: I have no idea. I'm not the person to ask.

Josh: Yeah, it has likes and views.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I got a lot of views. I don't know if there's likes.

Polly: Maybe I want to see this video.

Tommy: No, it's the one I made about O'Bikes fishing them out of the Yarra River years ago.

Josh: With Joe Rogan in it?

Polly: Seriously? No, no. I'm just hanging out for this moment where you guys actually are going to say, have Joe Rogan.

Josh: Tommy would love that. Tommy, you would love Joe Rogan. Yeah, yeah.

Polly: He was the one that got me— well, he was— he made float tanks like worldwide renowned. Worldwide renowned. Oh my God. I told you the connection between the mouth and the brain is going to fade out. No, he was the one that sort of got that chat mainstream.

Tommy: Yeah, well, he's got one in his studio.

Polly: Does he?

Tommy: Yeah. So we had one installed. It's a fucking— what's the vibe? Are you actually like closed in? Does it feel—

Polly: Yeah, I think there's— you can get rooms where you open a door if you're more prone to claustrophobia.

Tommy: Yeah.

Polly: And then there's the full-on pull the roof off, pull the roof off, pull the lid.

Tommy: There's ones that are like also, yeah, like mini doors, like they look And look, I'd be a bit scared.

Polly: Yeah, it's funny because sometimes you're having a really zen experience, other times you come out really agitated. But at the end of the day, it's so much magnesium that you're soaking yourself in. I think it's meant to be really good. Enjoy it.

Tommy: Are you meditating in there? Is that what you're trying to do?

Polly: You can.

Tommy: You're saying the word cheese. It's cheese, isn't it?

Polly: You got me. No, although a lot of people do that and I tried to do it last time. Then I fell asleep. But you kind of go in and out. Is it the theta state?

Josh: I don't know. The foetus state?

Polly: Not the fetus.

Josh: What did you think?

Tommy: It's '97, so you probably know this. What is it like just before sleep?

Polly: Like, yeah, I think it's the theta state where you're like, yeah, it's this consciousness where you're not quite knocked out, but you feel like you're not really there.

Josh: Wonder how many people have used their phone in a float tank. It defeats the purpose, but you just imagine.

Polly: You can't really take it in. The worst part is when you squirt a little bit of salt water in your face and and then, oh, that's you. Or if you've got a little scratch and you haven't put Vaseline on it, you have to put Vaseline. You need to put on a bit of petroleum jelly.

Josh: Do they give that? Do they provide the Vaseline?

Polly: Yeah. Oh, so there's earbuds, flannel just in the room.

Tommy: Flannel?

Polly: What's flannel? Flannel. Do you guys not have flannels?

Tommy: Yeah, no, but what's the flannel?

Polly: Like a face cloth? Face cloth too. Like if you have any wet residue on your face.

Tommy: Yeah. Okay, I went to the Dead Sea, which is—

Polly: Did you?

Tommy: Float tank, just a float tank.

Polly: Yeah, natural version.

Tommy: It's a real big one. Um, geez, I got that shit in my eyes. That was the worst thing ever. But cuts, like my bum hurt.

Polly: Yeah, it means that there's something going on. I know, sometimes I get a bit stingy and I'm like, what's going on here?

Josh: Well, it's a tingle. We, um, when we're in LA, there was in our Airbnb, there was a, um, body wash. What was it called? 97 The peppermint? Yeah, it was like tingle.

Tommy: No, no, no, tea tree.

Mason: Tea tree tingle.

Tommy: Yeah, tea tree tingle.

Josh: So Tommy said, oh, did— mate, my penis was stinging, is what you said. And then so anyway, I did, I was like, I only feel it on my asshole, what's going on? Like, something's wrong with me. And then so the next time I was like, and so I just left it all on for a little bit longer and nearly fucking burned the roof off of the house.

Polly: There was a small one that— there was the peppermint one, um, that kind of like happened to a lot of people a few years back, I remember, and they'd chuck it on their balls and then tingle, tingle town.

Josh: But there is something—

Tommy: it was called Tingle Town.

Josh: No, but it's almost like a cold shower. Like, there is something, um, meditative about it. Like, if it's a controlled environment.

Tommy: Yeah, what, for your tingle?

Josh: Just a bit.

Polly: Do you do cold showers?

Josh: Yes.

Polly: Yeah, yeah, often.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Polly: Do you do the Swedish, um, technique where—

Josh: what's the Swedish technique?

Polly: Well, I don't know, it's just Again, this is a headline, I'm a headline kind of girl, but where you jump in a really, really cold lake. You have the sauna and then you jump in the cold lake.

Josh: What's that? Yeah, the old mate.

Polly: He's going from really hot to really cold.

Tommy: It's meant to be really good for you. Tony Robbins does it.

Josh: Yeah, Tony Robbins gets around it. But also the—

Polly: Have you guys had Tony Robbins on?

Josh: No, we haven't. Not yet.

Tommy: I appreciate you thinking that we could have even had him on, but that's really nice. That's good.

Josh: Producing on it.

Polly: Oh, Stony Bobbins, there's one.

Tommy: That's really good. Are you, um, you're into self-help?

Polly: Yeah, yeah, probably too much. I'm trying to read fiction.

Josh: Um, it's all made up.

Polly: Yeah, I know, who needs that made-up stuff? No, I do, I'm a bit of a sucker. Like, I've got so many self-help books. Yeah, I think I want to write one one day, but I need to—

Tommy: What do you like?

Polly: Um, I always love a bit of Eckhart Tolle or Deepak Chopra. Um, and I'm still yet to get through, uh, what's her name, Grenade Brown. Yes, the vulnerability one. Daring.

Josh: Dare to Lead.

Polly: Daring Greatly. Greatly.

Tommy: Yeah, Daring Greatly. Was that the name of her?

Polly: And there's this other one, the Four Commandments. I can't remember who wrote it.

Josh: Oh, is it the— there's the Gretchen Rubin one, which is the tendencies or whatever.

Polly: You know, the one where it's like— I love Gabby Bernstein as well. She's great.

Tommy: How do you not just have them be just a fluffy read that doesn't really have any impact.

Polly: What about them?

Tommy: Like, how do you, how do you, like, all these self-help books, all these self-help books, they work if you apply the shit. How do you apply the shit?

Polly: Correct. I think you are like, I won't always read them all at once.

Josh: I'll just— that would be impressive. Yeah, that's why you can't sleep, you're trying to do 4 books.

Polly: Oh, I read the whole book.

Josh: Rain Man.

Polly: I'm a genius. Like what I like about it is you can sort of just read a few pages or just and really focus down on that and then go, and sometimes I'll just be lying in the bath going, okay, say that again. Okay. Oh yeah, that's really deep. Yeah. And then I'll try and process it. Other times it just completely goes over my head.

Tommy: It's a funny thing, these books, like I've read a bunch.

Polly: You're right though.

Tommy: I don't really know what the bit was that changed something for me.

Polly: To be honest, there is a lot of fluff out there and I think it's how much you resonate with it. And also at the end of the day, I think a lot of it's you've actually got it all in here. It's all sort of about untapping that, untapping, uncovering, and realising the power in yourself, tapping into it. That would be it, turning the tap on, tapping in.

Tommy: And so I mean, most of this stuff gets— when shit gets hard is when we somehow pull on these things that we've learned, or work's doing a bit tough.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: What is it for you that when you're when life is a bit hard?

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: What is it that you sort of resonate with?

Polly: Oh, it's a combination of all things. I'm not going to lie, I had a pretty hard couple of months after my father passed away. And so that was quite hard coming back to Australia and being away from family. And so I've sort of been on the mindset of just got to get through to the end of the year. And so sometimes that's just eating shitty food. Sometimes it's just having friends. Sometimes, you know, just having a chat with a friend. Sometimes it's music, sometimes it's running, sometimes it's yoga. There's no one sort of set way of getting through. But yeah, it's just not being hard on yourself and it's knowing that eventually things will get better, I think. And it's okay to feel shit. And because I've always been a pretty positive person and so I think this year it's been like, whoa, things can be hard.

Tommy: Is for you positive meaning it's, it's the instant response?

Polly: I've never I mean, even though I've lost people before, I've sort of always managed to, I guess, see the good in every situation. I think this year it's been very trying, even though I'm in such a fortunate position. But getting up early every morning, being away from my boyfriend and family, it's sort of like, okay, come on, you've just gotta— I don't know, it's sort of finding that it's going to be okay. Just having trust and faith that it's all going to work out in the end.

Josh: How do you reflect that on air, do you think?

Polly: I mean, yeah, it was quite challenging coming back and having to get back into that. I literally, when all that went down, the last thing I wanted to do was be on the radio. It really was. And, and I've never been that person who sort of wanted to hide, but I wanted to hide and just be an accountant or work in a bank. I didn't have to talk to anyone and I I'd do some of the shows and you'd get to the end and it'd be like 9 o'clock and I'd just crumble. And I think this was the first few weeks, I was like, sorry guys, I just have to get out of the room. And that sort of got better. I mean, it's eased, it still goes through waves. Grief is a very interesting beast.

Josh: Um, what did you need, or what did you need and what do you need from people around you in those moments?

Polly: It's hard, it's so I don't think you can say you need one thing. I think just, um, listening. People listening and being there, I guess.

Josh: Um, did you want to talk?

Polly: Yeah, I will talk, but not always. Sometimes you just— sometimes I just need to be by myself. Sometimes I'd talk to my mum. Sometimes I think particularly early on I just wanted to talk to people that knew my dad, and so that was probably quite hard, and I probably disconnected a little bit from people that didn't know him as well because I just wanted to still have that connection. This got really deep really fast, guys.

Tommy: Yeah, and how do you— can you be positive in those? You said it was hard.

Polly: I think it was, especially the first week or two, that was just like— I just felt like every day it was just trying to stay above water, and then it sort of got easier and that sort of has chilled out a bit, and it's life has become a bit easier to deal with. And still you go through those. Just when you think you're having a good day, it'll come out of nowhere. I never realized, and I think it's given me such a deep understanding for people going through that. It's, you know, like one day you're fine and it's just one thing that'll trigger you and then you're a mess.

Josh: What does it do to career and looking at what you want to do with your life?

Polly: Oh, it's interesting. I think it definitely really puts everything in perspective. And, um, yeah, I think your tolerance for bullshit just goes out the window as well. Like, you don't really have time for people who are dickheads. Like, as brutal as that sounds, like, life's short. Yeah, be a good person, hang around with good people. And I think especially in those times, you learn who actually cares for you and what matters the most.

Josh: Yeah. How do you think it's changing how you approach people who would be going through?

Polly: Oh, I think it's awful. And I think this sort of applies to so many situations in life, but when people do go through something hard, their eyes are opened and you do naturally become empathetic with so many more situations. And while I can't empathise with people who have been probably in far worse situations, I think it does naturally make you connect a little bit more. So I think in terms of broadcasting, you know, it's another element, I guess.

Josh: What does it mean for performance? So if you're in that sort of space, you're doing a breakfast show, you wouldn't necessarily feel like talking about like happy shit or being in that sort of place or having banter.

Polly: You just have to suck it up at that time. Yeah.

Josh: But is that hard? Because I guess there's like sort of like ego depletion where it's like the more you do shit that you don't want to do, totally empty.

Polly: Totally. And I think I did feel like that for a while. And I think that comes back to the connection you've got with those around you. And so, um, as tough as it can be, it's sort of having this transparency with your team members going, hey, it was a shit day, like, I'm so sorry, I'm not quite myself, and I'm a little bit more sensitive. And having those chats because then there's a bit more, um, what do you call it, um, there's empathy or whatever. Yeah, I guess there's more empathy and there's just a bit more room for understanding.

Tommy: Instead of them being like, "Fuckin' suck." Yeah, I haven't lost someone close to me. I mean, Grandma, but yeah, I've lost a bunch of mates. Yeah, but I— but no one as close as Mum or Dad.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: Is there a sense that you feel any guilt with feeling okay or feeling good in those moments?

Polly: Oh, that's so interesting because— and I think I felt that actually quite soon on because because for me, my dad, he got unwell when I was about 14, 15, and he was given about 2 to 5 years and he ended up going nearly 15. So that was amazing. Thank you, Mum, for everything you ever did. And I think along that way you go through a real emotional roller coaster of, you know, ups and downs. And especially over the last year, I guess I came to grips with, you know, what was potentially going to happen, that I always wanted to be not the outcome, but I think I sort of had that build-up time, um, to process it more than other people would. And I know that different, um, you know, different ways people pass have their pros and cons. So like, you know, if it happens straight away, you don't have to deal with them, um, and their deterioration and stuff. Um, but yeah, I think for me that sort of potentially helped process it. Doesn't make it any easier, but it just, it's a different kind of journey. Well, and I do, I go through waves of feeling guilty, and then all of a sudden the waterfall tears will come out and you're like, no, it's fine. But there's no right or wrong way.

Tommy: Yeah, I read yesterday a quote that was something around it's okay to feel good in a bad situation because we can't always control. Like, if you go for a run and you're feeling really amazing, like you're feeling Exactly.

Polly: We're all on a different journey and you don't know what other people have processed. You don't know what they're going through. Like, it really is— I find grief so fascinating. Yeah, it's been really interesting to talk to other people about their experiences and how, you know, they got through those initial sort of months or years. And for some people, you know, it'll take years to really— I don't think you never ever get over something like that, though. It's sort of about— someone made a really great observation it. It's, um, there's always the— there's always a hole, but you learn to walk around it instead of actually filling it. You learn to walk around that sort of, yeah, part of your life that's gone.

Josh: What have you learned about yourself?

Polly: I think I've learned I'm stronger than I thought. I think I always, um, because I've always had a very close relationship with my parents, I guess for me that was always the ultimate, like, terrible thing. It was like, if that happens, how am I going to survive? And so to be able to get through that and then come back and continue going, I think it's like, okay, you're tougher than you thought. And I think everyone is tougher than they think. Um, you don't realize, you know, as human beings what we can actually do and what we're capable of. So I think that's been personally quite interesting to experience.

Josh: What about geography, like being somewhere else? What do you think about living and where you set up your base?

Polly: Yeah, and I think that's also been a bit of a head, uh, if, uh, because obviously when Dad was really unwell, um, I'd sort of be tossing that up between seeing my boyfriend. So I'd be like, I want to see BJ, my boyfriend, but then Dad's really unwell. And so it would be this constant tugging on the heart, like, oh, And then I almost felt like I didn't have an anchor, and it was kind of like, um, where do I go? Where am I? I sort of just didn't feel grounded. Um, so that's been another interesting kind of balancing act, but I'm ready for 2020. I'm ready for a new slate. Got a new place to move into, um, and my mom's gonna come visit, and I'm gonna try and see my boyfriend as much as possible. But we make it work. Like, people always say, how do you do long distance? And we just do. We just make time and it's not always easy, but if it's worth it, you make it work.

Tommy: I did when I was living in Shepparton, my wife lived in Sydney.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: We met in Bali. And so there was that. And we were talking in the car on the weekend about how we think that there was something about the long distance that gave the relationship a bit more of a spark early days. So it's kind of like prolongs that honeymoon period.

Polly: You get the full sense of independence. Though. You get to do exactly what you're doing, but you still— I don't know, I think you actually get the best of both worlds, kind of.

Josh: Yeah, I have this dream of one day living remotely in this part of Tasmania called Stanley. Yeah. Where I have like a high quality, like fibre connection, like an ISDN line or whatever, where I can do the show and Tommy's in like another place and Mr. 97 can sometimes come and visit in like a dream cottage or whatever.

Polly: We often talk about having to be in like some kind of commune or retreat down the track and I'll be in the jungle or on like a farm somewhere.

Josh: Do you have those dreams of doing that sort of stuff?

Polly: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, like Melbourne is where it's at right now and it's amazing. It's what an incredible opportunity. So I don't want to waste any opportunities coming my way at the moment.

Josh: Do you look that far ahead? Do you look at when you're in your 50s or whatever?

Polly: I genuinely want to run a retreat. I don't know.

Josh: Where do you want to do it?

Polly: Maybe on my boyfriend's farm.

Josh: Oh yeah, that's cool.

Polly: Oh, he's got— yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, beautiful land.

Josh: Yep. What sort of animal?

Polly: He's got cows and sheep.

Josh: Okay. What do they do with them?

Polly: Classic Kiwi.

Tommy: Classic.

Polly: Everyone's like, oh, cool.

Tommy: Well, what other animals are there? There's not many. There's not a great deal of other animals. Like there's, um, there's no snakes.

Polly: We don't have kangaroos.

Josh: No snakes. I heard this exact same fact yesterday. What was that on?

Tommy: I've heard it.

Josh: No, there was a piece of content.

Tommy: Why did Joe Rogan was talking about it with maybe—

Polly: Are you serious? Why is Joe Rogan coming to Samoa?

Tommy: Your claim to fame is New Zealand's UFC claim to fame at the moment, Israel Adesanya.

Polly: Of course.

Tommy: He is from Rotorua. No, North Island somewhere. Auckland trains there. But he was talking recently and he was mentioning there's no snakes.

Polly: No, no, no. We've got nothing scary. What do you think of natural disasters?

Tommy: The kiwi bird.

Polly: Kiwis aren't going to attack you. They're pretty cute.

Josh: And so you would do a retreat?

Polly: Yeah, I'm still refining.

Josh: We can do it now. We can produce it.

Polly: We're finding the logistics of it.

Tommy: What do you want?

Josh: Are we like building a cabin?

Polly: Yeah, maybe have some float tanks, do a bit of yoga, gorgeous food. I don't know, maybe like host some talks.

Josh: What sort of produce is there? What do you have access to?

Polly: It's going to be natural, organic. Radishes.

Tommy: I don't know why I said radish.

Josh: Kale.

Polly: Actually, my boyfriend has so much kale and swede on the farm to feed the animals.

Josh: Really?

Polly: Yeah. Fields of it.

Josh: Of kale? Yeah.

Polly: So sometimes I'll just be driving past on the four-wheeler and I'll—

Josh: Is it as good as like— Is it fine to—

Mason: Is it chewable?

Tommy: Kale was only— before it was hip, it was always there. They just hadn't sold it like it is now.

Josh: Well, they have it in Australia.

Tommy: By demand.

Polly: Yeah, you get it dehydrated, you get it in a juice.

Josh: Kale chips.

Polly: Yeah, they're so good.

Josh: But no, when I first did my ever first, first ever juice fast, you couldn't get kale in Australia.

Tommy: That's right.

Josh: I got silverbeet.

Tommy: Yeah, no, it just looks the same. You can't put that shit in it.

Polly: Was that quite strong?

Josh: Yeah. So the first— I worked on a film called— I was the community manager for a film called Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead, where the guy Joe juiced around the US for 60 days.

Polly: Another Joe.

Josh: Yeah.

Polly: I saw this. This was on Netflix, wasn't it?

Josh: Year. And so I was the community manager and in Australia. And so as part of it, I'm like, I'm gonna do a reboot, like a juice. And so the first video is me saying, hey everyone, I'm on day one of the juice. And then he would have this phrase, catch cry, where he'd say, juice on. And so I said, juice on. And then I went to drink it, drink it, and I vomited the whole thing up.

Polly: Was it your first day?

Josh: Yeah. And it was because I, I thought, um, I loved gingerbread, so I thought I loved ginger ginger, and I put a— they said a thumb of ginger.

Polly: That's a lot of ginger.

Josh: Look at my thumb.

Tommy: It's a big thumb.

Polly: That's a— yeah, you've got to—

Josh: they're both the same. Yeah, it's not that. Yeah, so he's got his own Instagram account, Toe Thumb.

Polly: Do you want to see my toe? Oh, I've got the ugliest toe.

Tommy: What, is this your foot?

Polly: Oh, don't actually— no, it's hairy.

Tommy: They're hairy.

Josh: Okay, but do you shave them?

Polly: Were you expecting me to shave them? And that's where I went downhill. I saw one of these really hot girls at and she had hairy toes, but I saw that she had shaved it. So I was like, she can do it. I can do it.

Josh: What is the deal with women and shaving? Can you do it on the face?

Polly: I think if you do it on the face, you're asking for harsh regrets.

Josh: Like, you know how they like, Bree goes to like a dermatologist or whatever. Yeah. Who is secretly saying— she came home the other day and said, oh, the dermatologist said to get Botox early.

Polly: And I was like, preventative.

Josh: Yeah. And I was like, no, that's—

Polly: and then your face isn't Yeah, but I don't know, I just think, yeah, what are you going to be like at 55?

Josh: Yeah, and the whole, um, but there are no wrinkles, mate.

Polly: Yeah, I know, actually true. Your face won't be stressed out.

Josh: Um, yeah, do you have any of those, uh, regular things you do, like going to a dermo, or do you do a naturopath, given all the crystals?

Polly: I see I'm a cosmetic acupuncturist.

Tommy: What is that?

Josh: Is that just—

Polly: no, so it works on the— it's actually like natural Botox.

Josh: Oh, really?

Polly: So she'll put like needles in your head and on your face and in your body. And so she'll actually be working on your body as well as your face.

Josh: Oh, that's good.

Polly: She helped ease up my— I had really strong— I mean, I've still got some forehead wrinkles, but she softened them a bit.

Josh: Great.

Polly: Yeah. Sometimes I'll come with bruises though.

Josh: Yeah, it's like the, the cupping on the back.

Polly: Yeah.

Josh: You see people on the beach or whatever after that. It looks like they've been—

Polly: Yeah, well, I go there and I see her and like she follows Chinese medicine. So sometimes if I'm getting sick, she Gua Sha on my back. What is that? Gua Sha? It's like this kind of jade tool and they just scrape, scrape, scrape. And the more you like knead it, the more marks come up. It's really satisfying.

Josh: Jade thing. I got a— Bree got one at some event she went to. And so I've been using it on my face. It's nice and cool.

Polly: Yeah, it is. It's really— they stay cool, don't they?

Josh: Yeah.

Polly: It's cold again and it feels like it's been in the fridge.

Josh: Yeah. Do you have any issues in regards to temperature of the studio?

Polly: Oh, I think you save your body. I never know when people say you're hot or a cold person.

Josh: I'm a hot person.

Tommy: I would generally say, I think I'm probably hot. Stereotyping females usually running a lot hotter than, sorry, sorry, running colder. Running cold.

Polly: Yeah, that's what I mean.

Tommy: Running colder.

Polly: Yeah, because Jase gets really hot really quickly.

Tommy: Oh mate, yeah, like I could sleep with the doona off. Amy's fucking freezing with them off.

Polly: But then girls in the shower, we can tolerate so much hotter.

Tommy: Amy does.

Polly: You see the mainers, like the skin's burning off and the girls are like, Perfect.

Tommy: It's because you're bloody frozen.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: Need that thaw out.

Josh: Well, on that, do you have a favourite phoner that you like to pull out if you're feeling tired?

Polly: Oh my God, we have so many. What's our favourite one? Oh, we always go, "Where'd you get stuck?" Or, "What did you swallow?" What did you swallow?

Josh: That's a good one.

Polly: "What did you have to get taken out?" I can't remember.

Josh: A lot that requires dump buttons potentially.

Polly: Yeah.

Josh: Can we actually Actually, uh, 97, today I posted a riddle onto my Insta stories.

Polly: Maybe we could, um, steal a benchmark by, uh, yeah, you can do the riddle.

Josh: Yeah, 97 can read it out though because he's actually— actually, I've got my phone here, I can read it out. Here we go, standby. Sorry for the delay. It's okay, I was just saying I'm out the front next to the garage.

Polly: Hey, it's fine.

Josh: Okay, I'm just going into my personal One, no copyrighted music please. You're trying to get us taken down.

Polly: Is it really that strange?

Josh: No, we try and really run a tight ship.

Tommy: Okay, here we go, here we go.

Josh: Someone's mother has 4 sons, North, West, and South. What is the name of the 4th son?

Polly: Mate, this is one of the oldest in the book. Someone Wrong.

Mason: East.

Polly: No, say it again. Say it again.

Josh: Someone's mother.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Has 4 sons, North, West, and South. What is the name of the 4th son?

Polly: Someone.

Josh: Literally, I've had someone just say someone now. People, everyone's saying someone. I said someone.

Tommy: Well, I'm just saying East.

Josh: I'll just let you, I'll just let you read it just so you can say.

Polly: Message me with the name of the 4th son if you do.

Josh: Read out loud if you want.

Polly: Someone's mother has 4 sons, North, West, and South. What is the name of the 4th son? 4th? It's got to be someone.

Josh: The answer is what.

Polly: Oh yeah, that's what is the name of the 4th son, which is—

Josh: there's no question.

Polly: But also someone's mother.

Josh: That's what I— so I came up—

Polly: someone works better.

Josh: Yeah, I thought it was that too.

Tommy: Does it help to read? Does it help to see it with the comma in it?

Josh: No, well, it's not about the apostrophe, which was what you're referring to. It's about the full stop slash question mark.

Polly: Okay. If you've got any riddles, PJ DJ on Instagram. I mean, it is, it's a bit of a desperate— I feel like I've seen every riddle.

Josh: It's very stressful.

Polly: I know it is.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: How do you think you would go? Tommy and I were talking about IQ tests.

Polly: I don't know what's—

Tommy: there's an English component, a maths.

Polly: I'm terrible at maths. Okay, at English.

Tommy: Yeah. What else is there?

Josh: Do you want to do one quick IQ test? 97. And we can— so I did it the other day and I was smashing it, but it was turned off.

Polly: What's a good IQ? What's the top one?

Mason: 100 is an average IQ.

Polly: Is it?

Mason: 100 is average.

Polly: Yeah. I really want to know what I am.

Josh: Yeah. Also, we did a testosterone test because Tommy thought he had the most testosterone. And so for episode 500, I actually went and got it.

Polly: I reckon I beat you guys.

Josh: Tommy, Tommy me one. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had, uh, annoyingly, I go there, I just want to get my testosterone done, and before you know it, they're fucking showing me the food pyramid.

Polly: You have to get, um, like blood tests.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, we had to get full blood tests. Yeah.

Polly: And so I want to know now, can you find out your estrogen?

Tommy: Yeah, you could if you wanted to.

Josh: Yeah, you could go.

Tommy: We just went and said, can we find out our testosterone levels?

Josh: Yeah, I think that Bray gets all that, the oestrogen shit as well.

Tommy: Do you have a Do you care? Yes.

Polly: Yeah, yes, one of the things I signed up to when I moved to the country.

Josh: How does that work?

Polly: I don't know.

Tommy: He's in New Zealand.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mason: Born in Auckland.

Polly: Oh, Kia ora.

Josh: Yeah, that's, yeah, that's what they say.

Tommy: And yeah, you say the thing back. What do you say back?

Mason: I don't know what you say back.

Tommy: What does he say back?

Mason: I don't think you say anything back.

Polly: I think you say Kia ora.

Tommy: Get in close, put your head on and say, ah, you know how you do that? I saw that, it's fucking great. Oh, Oh, um, Adesanya, the UFC guy, was coming out and he was doing it with people. It was so good. Yeah, it looks so intense.

Polly: I was like, yeah, I want to be a part of that. It's really beautiful.

Tommy: It's so— they're connecting.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, they breathe in.

Polly: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I was like, I hate other people's breath, and I was like, at least it's beautiful.

Polly: Yeah.

Tommy: Um, should Josh and I do it?

Josh: No, no, no, I feel— I didn't know he said the question.

Polly: Okay, okay. Oh no, it says I can't Thank you.

Mason: Yeah, it's all right, it's, it's sort of English.

Josh: What does that mean? Can we do Spanish?

Tommy: No.

Mason: Which answer expresses the meaning of the specified word best? The specified word is reassuring, and the, the multiple choice is compassionate, comforting, comforting, explanatory, meddlesome.

Polly: Oh yeah, reassuring. Oh yeah, comforting, 100%.

Tommy: Metal thing.

Mason: It's a question 1 out of 10, so I have to go through the whole thing.

Josh: Can you do the final one?

Mason: Uh, okay, hang on.

Tommy: Oh, do you have—

Mason: I'm just answering.

Tommy: Oh, it's one of those face-off tests where you gotta get through each one and then they'll take your email address.

Josh: How's your back?

Tommy: You're right.

Polly: No, I'm just— I'm not ready, bro. I just want to see how evident it was.

Josh: It's fine. Well, you're really— I don't even—

Tommy: the way you're doing it is you're finding it It's, it's— no footage is there.

Josh: I thought you were sort of moving your back.

Tommy: Josh Ewing.

Polly: Oh, good click! Oh yeah, I'm normally good at this.

Josh: Oh, oh damn, hang on. Oh, I'm really worried that one day that I'm gonna break my neck.

Polly: Oh, do you hear that?

Josh: No.

Polly: Oh, that's so good.

Josh: I wonder how dangerous it is. Do you go to the osteo?

Polly: Um, I've been to an osteopath. Last year?

Josh: I'm not—

Polly: I've been to a chiro. Oh, the chiro freaks me out.

Tommy: Surely you guys have done like a, is it dangerous to click your bones? Like, oh, I'm sure, crack your bones.

Polly: I don't know.

Tommy: No, I wasn't asking you to do it.

Josh: Yeah, I was a kid and everyone was there.

Polly: Yeah, because there's that myth, just like the, um, instant noodles expand in your stomach if you don't have them with water. Do you remember that?

Josh: No, no, but that sounds right.

Tommy: I don't know, eating them with just sprinkling on Before we go—

Josh: I watched a documentary over the weekend. It's about FIRE. Have you heard about it? No, no.

Polly: K-pop?

Josh: This is going to be the next one. So FIRE, it's Financial Independence Retire Early. It's a whole movement. And so it's all these people like, yeah, I retired at 29. That's how I do it anyway. But one of the ways that someone was doing it was they, um, what do you do for breakfast in the morning? You do Uber Eats, obviously, or Menu Log or whatever. Every single Insta story, what do you want?

Tommy: That's just fine, Josh. Hashtag sponsored.

Josh: It's not even sponsored.

Polly: That's the disgusting thing. I was good for a while and then I just got lazy and then like the team will come in and they'll be like, who feels like a cheese toastie? And I'll be like, I can't say no to that.

Josh: Well, anyways, So, this place, I don't think I've even told you this yet, TJ. They did this documentary. They had this couple and the way they prepared their breakfast is they did breakfast burritos that they freeze. You put it in the freezer and because I don't eat anything, I'm a bit picky when it comes to that sort of stuff. I don't like leftovers as a general rule. Yeah. However—

Polly: They get a little bit damp.

Josh: Yeah. I don't like that.

Polly: Condensation. I'll still eat them. I eat anything.

Tommy: It's such the checklist of the modern man. Man, what? Don't like leftovers. It's just like, who wastes leftovers?

Polly: How wasteful.

Josh: I know, but now I'm a bit more woke and so I eat it. But it does require foil, which is not good. Like if you wrap them up, so you wrap them up. This lady on Instagram, YouTube, she did 170 of them, but you can do them 30 days all good. You scrambled eggs. What are you laughing at, 97?

Mason: I'm just thinking you could batch like half a year.

Josh: They had Costco, like just buying eggs and then mixing it all or whatever.

Polly: Surely that's not going to taste as good.

Josh: But then this is how they I do it. This is the good bit. You get a sandwich press and you heat them up in a sandwich press in the morning.

Polly: Let us just correlate to retiring, saving cash. Was this one of the ideas?

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I mean, what did it work out to be? Burrito per burrito per meal?

Josh: It's very, very low.

Polly: I mean, I think the best burritos I've ever had. Where are they from? Hecto in Mexico.

Josh: Oh, Hecto in Mexico. Oh, I love that.

Polly: It's Hecto, isn't it?

Josh: Chimichanga from there?

Polly: Yeah, the chimichanga is the main, but I had a um, a burrito, a bit of chorizo. Yeah. And I was walking home on Friday night and it was honestly— yeah, yeah, it's one of the best burritos I've had in a while.

Josh: Yeah, I do like them.

Tommy: Um, so are you a money saver? Like, are you actually good with the cash or are you Uber Eatsing every meal?

Josh: Like, I know PJ's rich.

Polly: I'm not great with money, but I could be worse.

Tommy: We all could be worse.

Polly: But no, I'm not the best person.

Josh: You could kill one person and say, I could be Do you ever upgrade to premium economy or business when you fly?

Polly: I have like once or twice.

Josh: Because Air New Zealand has the— they used to, but they've gotten rid of it. You know, the white like domey sort of thing.

Polly: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: That was really nice.

Polly: They don't have that anymore.

Josh: No, they're phasing it out.

Polly: Why?

Josh: I think it took up too much space.

Polly: Right.

Josh: Which when you're running an airline, you have to worry about that stuff.

Tommy: More tickets, more money.

Josh: But Air New Zealand and Virgin now are all fighting.

Polly: Well, yeah, because they used to be together.

Josh: Anyway, before we go, final IQ thing.

Polly: Oh no.

Mason: All right, which number logically follows this series? 4, 6, 9, 6, 14, 6. What's the next number?

Polly: Sex.

Tommy: 9.

Josh: Find a friend.

Mason: Okay, well, I should probably read out the suggestions. Oh yeah, 6, 17, 19, or 21.

Polly: Sex.

Mason: 6? No, it's not 6.

Josh: What was it? 19? Yeah, it's 19. Yeah. Okay, so I don't completely understand.

Polly: I need to see those things. Yeah, I need to write it down.

Tommy: Yeah, uh, we'd all be under 100.

Josh: Ben Fordham's a big fan, uh, of you.

Polly: IQ?

Josh: No, of you. He was talking, he was talking about, uh, you guys at the ACRAs last year.

Polly: Oh, he's so lovely. He's like a walking billboard.

Josh: Yeah, he's always trying to pay that guy.

Polly: Yeah, he's so, he's so complimentary. He's such a sweet—

Tommy: Jason's been paying him.

Polly: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.

Josh: Yeah, I just thought I should say that.

Polly: Thank you. No, I actually heard his chat with you guys. He was, he was very, very nice.

Tommy: He's lovely. That's just what he's going to do for the rest of his days.

Polly: So I'm going to go off to the— I just want to say Ben is great as well. I love what he does. Yeah, I think he's a very talented broadcaster. What do you think about the live stream?

Josh: Do you know that video livestream?

Mason: No.

Josh: So you can go on to like the 2GB thing and I worked it out. So if I share my phone to my Apple TV, I can watch him on my TV while he's doing his.

Polly: Wow.

Josh: And he's always, he's very animated. He's got a certain style.

Polly: Yeah.

Josh: He's like, oh, he's sort of, you know, there's a lot of gesticulating. Yeah. But there's, you know, there's a big deal with the water in Sydney right now. We're going to have the the person looking after that.

Polly: Very authoritative.

Josh: We've got Samantha who saw the whatever, you know, it's always a bit dark, but I love it.

Polly: It is very good. Love you, Benny, if you're listening.

Josh: Yeah, what are you doing now?

Polly: So yeah, I've gotta go to the property company, real estate company.

Josh: Property managers, yeah.

Polly: And I've gotta go sign all the papers with Harry.

Tommy: So ask Harry lots of questions. Just keep him accountable.

Polly: Yeah, I'm a big person for that.

Josh: Just be careful, just work out your internet, make sure you got your internet sorted.

Polly: Well, I'll just, I'll switch over from what I've currently got, even though that's terrible. It's so bad.

Josh: Are you using— is it NBN?

Polly: No, I'm not even on NBN.

Tommy: So it seems the new place has NBN.

Polly: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Tommy: 50 bucks.

Josh: It's like apartment block, or is it a—

Polly: no, it's like a little villa. Little villa.

Josh: Moving to Bali.

Polly: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got palm trees out the back. Some fake Bali.

Tommy: Jason would love that, actually.

Josh: Yeah, would have that vibe.

Polly: He'd be over all the time.

Tommy: And thank you for coming on the thanks for having me, guys.

Polly: It was so nice to finally meet you.

Josh: And we appreciate because you're like, this is the craziest time of year as well.

Polly: Oh no.

Josh: And so you're—

Polly: I wanted to come on ages ago. Yeah. And we finally did it. Can I come back?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, we would like that actually. Too keen. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. If you've enjoyed the show, uh, you can actually hear PJ. She does like a show every weekday.

Polly: Not as much as you.

Josh: It's called Jason PJ. It's actually probably more hours that you guys end up doing, but it's not a competition.

Tommy: But it is your full-time job.

Polly: 3 hours times 5, 15.

Josh: 15. How much are we doing?

Tommy: I don't know, 7 at least.

Polly: 7 at least.

Tommy: Minimum.

Josh: I know, it's a nightmare. Is that including that? No, you just have 3 hours of talk because the whole podcast, all that sort of thing. But my favourite bit about your competition— yeah, but my favourite part about your show is the podcast at the start. If I can't get through, if I don't have time to listen to the whole thing, I just go through and listen. Yeah, it's very good. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. Hi@TheDailyTalkShow.com is the email address if you'd like to send us an email. If you've enjoyed, you can also like screen grab and put it on iTunes. So not on iTunes, Instagram. It was the thumbs up put me off.

Tommy: Or you can leave us a review on iTunes, on Apple Podcasts.

Josh: Yeah, they don't call it iTunes anymore.

Polly: How are your reviews going?

Josh: Yeah, they're going actually pretty good.

Polly: Not counting, but what have you got?

Josh: Oh, we've got 179.

Polly: Oh yeah, that's pretty good.

Josh: Yeah, we had someone on YouTube do a comment yesterday which threw my day. I do. Yeah, well, I wrote it back to them.

Polly: What did you say?

Josh: They were just, they were like, you guys need to hire a videographer. It's like, that's what we do for jobs. It was very rude. Anyway, but it was—

Polly: They don't know how to cut to the core.

Josh: Yeah, but we just—

Polly: They would have known they were just rubbing salt in the wound.

Tommy: It's crazy, it was actually me. Oh, God.

Josh: It ruined the Sunday. Anyway, guys, we'll see you tomorrow.

Tommy: See you guys.

Polly: Bye.