Hard As A Rock

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 502.

Josh: What's happening, guys? We've got in the middle Basil.

Tommy: Hello, uh, mate, we're actually on a plane right now. Yeah, are we?

Basil: Yeah.

Josh: How you feeling?

Basil: Jesus, this is comfortable actually.

Josh: Well, you're not on the plane, we're on the plane. I mean, you're sitting right next to us, but okay, you're not on the plane with us, right?

Tommy: Yeah, it's, it's more, uh, letting people know that currently we're on our way to Los Angeles. Yes, but physically right right now we're recording today's episode. Yeah.

Josh: Um, the fucked up thing is if the plane goes down, it's our last episode, guys. It's been amazing. We got to 500. Fucking great to have you here. It's so morbid when you think about— I was about to start doing goodbyes to my wife.

Tommy: No, definitely don't. Too dark.

Mason: Wow, great newspaper article though. Oh yeah, photos from the 500 event on the front page. Absolutely not front page, but yeah.

Josh: No, why?

Tommy: Why not? Why not? We've been through this with that.

Josh: Funny thing, uh, we know the answer because we spent a good 10 minutes just having some back and forth about it. Uh, 14-hour flight to LA, Basil. There's high wind tomorrow, which— I mean, we're on the flight, so technically it took off. Okay, but high wind, so there's a potential that it'll be sort of delayed. And then we got into a conversation of how How much fuel do you reckon they'll have? And how much fuel does a commercial flight need to have in reserves? So 14-hour flight, I thought definitely like 16 hours worth of fly time. Like you'd want 2-hour buffer, wouldn't you?

Basil: Yeah, definitely.

Josh: So what would you— so I won't give you, you can't take my answer. What's your answer?

Basil: Part of me thinks that you should have double, right? But that's just—

Tommy: are you kidding?

Basil: But that's way too much and too expensive.

Josh: You're saying that you want to be able to at least get to LA and They've been able to do the 24-hour flight to London in one go, but they've just been holding off.

Tommy: For people who don't know, because they might be hearing Basil thinking that we've got you on as an aviation expert, you are not an aviation expert. You did an amazing job for us for episode 500 going around filming all behind-the-scenes content. You're a filmmaker based just around the corner.

Basil: Just around the corner.

Josh: Fellow video grump.

Tommy: I just wanted to make it clear because if people heard your prediction, they might be like, who the fuck is this guy?

Mason: This guy.

Josh: So yeah. So what's your— how much flight time? How—

Basil: yeah. More than the 14 hours.

Josh: So, no, let's lock in his answer.

Tommy: More than the 14 hours.

Josh: Let's lock in his answer. 28 hours.

Tommy: That's the question. Of course. Okay. It's an extra 45 minutes.

Basil: That's it? Yes. That's so scary. So, so weird.

Josh: So my thinking as I walked out—

Basil: Far out.

Josh: —to go down the street before, I thought about it quite a bit. I was like, okay, so obviously they're not going to get more than halfway. And then turn around to go back to Melbourne. They always have to have—

Tommy: no, Basil logic, you want to be able to get to LA and then decide, fuck it, then go back.

Josh: Yeah, this gronk up the back's been causing trouble, we're going home. The pilot, we're fucking doing it. No, no, no, but so I was thinking they always probably have to have somewhere where they're going to veer off to within the time frame. Hawaii or something.

Tommy: Well, you hear the storeys of them landing at military bases and things like that.

Josh: I tell you what I don't want is to fucking land in the water. I mean, it doesn't end well.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh, I don't know if it turned into a great fucking movie.

Josh: Well, it did for one bloke, Tom Hanks, who got paid a bunch of cash. And the poor bastard that had to go through it and landed on the Hudson River. I mean, this is all pretty— I was a girl that I know. I did that Hollywood immersive, you know, that trip that I won to learn how to be a presenter in Hollywood. Um, I did a trip this year, by the way, 2012, best year, one of the best years in America. You were there, were you there, Basil? Uh, 2012, great year.

Tommy: It was like parody, I think, or maybe 2013.

Basil: I was there. Yeah, I mean, no, 20— yeah, no, I was 2012. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: What were you doing?

Basil: Um, just partying a lot. Really? Yes, all over. What sort of party? Uh, a lot. I found myself, um, at midnight, um, at the Princeton University in the middle of the football oval because we were friends with the soccer president. He had the keys. That was very good. That was— that's like a big party kind of thing. So not—

Josh: this is not nightclub stuff or—

Basil: ah, yeah, there was a little nightclub. No, no, no, I was thinking that's actually a better—

Josh: like, that's a better storey than I went to the club.

Tommy: Yeah, which I— the club. Yeah, my university. Yeah, if that's what partying is, the coolest thing I ever did partying was when I was at the radio station at Rod Laver Arena. We got to see a live performance of Matchbox Twenty doing their whole set.

Josh: It's already lost cred.

Tommy: But there was only 15 of us.

Basil: I'm still with you, babe.

Tommy: There was only 15 of us watching a full dress rehearsal with all the cameras and everything. And Rob Thomas would come up and sing in our faces.

Josh: Oh dude, he came into the studio once and he's, oh, he's just stank of ciggies. He'd just been— really? Is that a husk? Raspy voice.

Tommy: Anyway, the girl who I follow— oh, that's annoying.

Josh: Whose computer? That was yours.

Mason: I panicked for a second thinking it was mine.

Josh: Yeah, but now you're happy that it was Josh's computer.

Tommy: Yeah, but I forgot to mute his computer anyway. But that's not my fault, that's your fault.

Josh: Okay, so this girl, um, is—

Tommy: it's annoying. It's very loud. People are like— if— do you hear how loud that was in the headphones?

Josh: It wasn't too bad.

Basil: If you're on a plane and you're already freaking out because you've just found out there's only an extra 45 minutes of fuel. Now you're really pissed off. Do you reckon— I wonder if—

Josh: let me just finish this story. Siobhan is doing, um, she's coming flight attendant. I don't know, coming a flight attendant for one of the Arab airlines. Um, but they're doing all their training over— I think it's Abu Dhabi. Um, and they're doing the train— or Dubai. What's from Dubai? Emirates? I think it's Emirates, the airline. Anyway, um, they've got like a full simulation where— fuck off, Mr. 97, get out! Get out now. I've had enough of you.

Tommy: He's tired, isn't he? No, I was just watching. No, Josh is—

Josh: What am I doing? We were talking about how much your head is just looking over to Mr. 97. Sorry to be here for this, guys. Sorry you're here for this, mate. We were laughing when you left the other day. Fuck, his neck must be sore. And then Mason said, yeah, I know, I've noticed him just constantly looking at me, bitching about me.

Tommy: Anyway, it's all good.

Basil: Mama and dad are fighting.

Josh: It's interesting seeing these Instagram storeys come out of this training, which I didn't even know that you could do that, but it's like fully seeing the raft come out and they're like sliding down. So they're doing all the training for if we go down in the water.

Tommy: Interesting. Yeah, that they're able to actually like Instagram it. The— I just think about if I'm running out of petrol, the feeling that I get. Yeah. When do pilots— when does that— because they only have 45 litres.

Josh: Let's ask the aviation expert, Basil.

Basil: What is it, mate?

Tommy: No idea. No predictions for the rest of the show for me. So you've created a 1-minute video, yeah, which was from episode 500. And so we'll like make you film this fun thing, you should come on the show, we'll watch it for the first time. Yes, it's scary. Um, yeah, scary for—

Basil: it's just scary because I just, I smashed it together. I knew you guys would be on a plane right now, so I wanted to make sure you saw it. Before it could be the last thing you ever saw.

Tommy: Yeah. Jesus Christ. Okay, really digging deep with that. All right, here we go. So this is the video from episode 500. What'd you shoot it on for the geeks playing at home?

Basil: GH5. What lens? Sigma Art Series 35. Yeah, but then with the crop, I don't know what it turns out to. Obviously not good at maths. You shot 4K? Double guess. Shot 4K? Sure, I shot a lot of 4K.

Josh: Is that the crop? Why the crop?

Tommy: The crop is not the full frame sensor size. Yeah.

Basil: He's loving this. Yeah, could have shot it S, that would have been nicer at nighttime. Could have shot it any other camera that doesn't have as much grain as a Bane Factory, but yeah, that's right. Yeah, okay, all the emotions there.

Josh: Yeah, all right, all right.

Tommy: It's the Daily Talk Show episode 500 at AU79. Tonight here in Abbotsford. You've got to understand, doing 500 episodes, it has been a lot of hard work doing a podcast that is completely optional and we are actually able to create stuff that we're really proud of. Because if we do that, if we just be ourselves and then you guys come here tonight, that's awesome because it means like you might actually like us, which is fucking really great.

Josh: We're big insecure babies. We're all thinking whether or not this is a thing 500 in.

Tommy: It's been a great show. Thanks for coming, everyone, and we'll see you next time. See you guys.

Josh: Mate, clap that. Keep that clap going.

Tommy: Oh my God, I am fully erect. I'm shivering. That is unbelievable. My ears are ringing. I'm hard as a rock. I don't know how. Oh my God, this is Spiky's testosterone. It's back up. I don't know where to go from here. That was amazing. Oh my God, it's the— I feel like I've been—

Basil: yeah, you guys did it. Congrats. No, thank you. Absolutely smashed it.

Tommy: I mean, uh, you didn't get to see it, 97. No, it sounded fantastic though.

Mason: Yeah, I'm pumped up as well.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, what does that mean? You're pumped up too? Can we call this episode Hard as a Rock? No, but it's, um He's got everyone smiling and laughing and clapping and cheering and having a great time. What happened?

Basil: You didn't have to fake it though.

Josh: Everyone was. Where'd you get that audio from? Your show. Oh, so you pulled it? No, I was thinking, fuck it, that's a good—

Basil: it's not my good line. I stole it from the YouTube upload. Oh, sorry, illegally ripping your show.

Tommy: Have what you want if you're gonna pull off something like that. I know, I loved that. I mean, so, um, you've done these types of things before. Yeah. What sort of projects do you like doing in 2019? What's your favourite stuff to do?

Josh: Can you close your laptop, by the way?

Basil: Yeah, sure. I do like this kind of stuff. I love interview-based stuff. So that's why this is like an event video 'cause I like you guys. I'll do that. But I generally do stick away from the event. Yeah, like no weddings for me, thank you. How many weddings have you done? Not that many, but like enough to like not do it. So when I was in Canada, maybe like, Maybe like 8. I was like second shooter because I was a bit shit.

Tommy: Did you have any horror stories? Yeah, yet.

Basil: Oh yeah, okay. So a fun one that happened, um, last year in the States. This was for my friend's, uh, my friend's brother's like third wedding. Just off the bat, there you go. It was really like, it was a hillbilly wedding. You're sorry, what? Your brother's— your friend's brother? It was my friend's. So I was going along, I was like staying with my friend and she's like, oh, it's my brother's wedding this weekend. I was like, oh, you should have told me. She's like, 'Oh, it's pretty low-key, it's fine, like, just come along.' And I was like, 'Oh, I feel really bad.' I'm like, 'Oh, I've got my camera, like, I'll— I can shoot some video if you want.' And, um, so the bride rocks up and she walks past me down the aisle and she reeks of booze. I was like, 'Oh, this is great.' Um, and so like the ceremony and stuff was like—

Tommy: was it in a church or was it like a— it was out by like a lake. It was in a barn.

Josh: A lake? Oh, that's nice.

Basil: Yeah, there was a barn. Was there a barn? Yeah. And I say lake, it could be swamp.

Tommy: I guess. What part of the US?

Basil: Deep Michigan. Okay, great. Yeah. So the ceremony, all that's pretty, pretty okay. It's, it's nice. And then the favourite part, and when I stopped filming, was when the, the bride played her like first dance song on the stereo and the newlywed husband wasn't there. So she took a full bottle of Jack Daniel's and smashed on the middle of the dance floor. And stormed off.

Tommy: Oh no, there's no coming back from that.

Basil: Yes, there was no coming back from that. I think they're together still, but there was no coming back for the kind of rest of the night.

Josh: Good video. Oh really?

Basil: Great video. That's the thing, that's the thing. And that's where like it kind of broke my heart because like I cut this, I cut this video together and, and one of the, like the uncle was like, oh my God, this looks so amazing. And I was like, I think this is where I've gotta I got to finish it.

Josh: No, no, no. Just the bottle smash and then it just— dance for 4 seconds. Did you just like bottle smash on camera?

Basil: Well, no, I didn't. No, I actually— I wasn't— we were all kind of waiting for this first dance to happen. And I think like the husband was just being nice. Someone was leaving, so he was like saying goodbye.

Josh: Thanks for coming. Yeah.

Basil: Yeah. And then she just got sick of waiting, so she threw a tanty. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was pretty raw. I mean, that's— I mean, that's the worst of the worst. And that wasn't even like an official, you know, like it was an official wedding. I mean, like I wasn't getting paid as a videographer to do it.

Josh: I, you know, I've got a way with words. I fuck up my wording of things quite often, which can make me seem rude. And, and it's only in hindsight that I sort of realise I may have been. Tash, who is the person who I shot, it's the first and only wedding video that I've ever made. And I use that same term when I saw her just recently. She gave me a nice compliment at the podcast and then she said, I have to tell you, we watch back the video you made so often. Like, we haven't even really looked at the photos. We watch the video and I put a lot of work into it. And I said, yeah, it was the first and last one I've ever made. And it was— I got what I meant, which is why I usually put my foot in it. What I meant was, yeah, I put a lot into that one. I loved making your one, but I've—

Tommy: That's my language teacher right there.

Josh: I would never do any— I'm not going to do any more of those. It was nice to do one that I loved. Hell yeah. Because I don't want to get fully— You peaked. But what I realized, and I, and I'm sorry if you're listening, that's not what I meant. It was a great wedding and I really enjoyed shooting it and editing it, but I don't do weddings.

Tommy: So it's a different beast. You can get very good at shooting a certain style and all that sort of thing.

Josh: Can you get trapped in that stuff though? Oh, definitely.

Basil: Yes. And I tell you why, because you have to book so far in advance. And I was talking to a friend of mine, Justin, and he shoots weddings, or he did shoot weddings in Bendigo. And he was telling me the other week, it broke my heart, he went through a divorce himself. And so then he's rocking up every Saturday and Sunday and he's shooting weddings and he's booked out 18 months in advance. So he decided that he's like, I don't kind of necessarily believe in the institution anymore. This is— I'm finding it very hard to, you know, rock up and be excited all days because you as a, as a photo or video guy and girl, you spend your whole day so close to the couple and the family and all of that. So he was just like, oh, Oh, I'm going through some shit right now. So that broke my heart when I heard that. And he's, he still does them. But yeah, he was saying he got out of it and this is a few years back and stuff. Now he's a very happy boy, but I was like, oh, that must have been so hard.

Josh: Yeah. There's nothing more sickening when you're going through heartbreak than love. Or do you watch it? Totally. Or do some people watch like love storeys and when they're going through a breakup to feel, you know, like it's sometimes wallowing in your own fucking emotion is sometimes— oh yeah, it's bad but it's kind of nice. Yeah, I'm upset, you know, it's like there's a lot to be upset about but sometimes it's just like basking in that shit. It's no good, it's not good. We do it sometimes.

Tommy: Yeah, we do it. I enjoy it.

Josh: We're just on the high now after watching that video. I'm feeling fucking great.

Tommy: Yeah, you still hard? Mr. 97 was thinking to himself, it's like, you know what, Josh saying that probably can get away with it if we don't mention it again for the rest of the show. Is that what you're thinking? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was— yeah, we don't want to beat a dead horse. No, the— I remember doing a couple of, um, uh, weddings like when I was really young, like 16, and it's so depressing where they put you to wait.

Basil: Oh God, yes.

Tommy: Like, it's like in next to the industrial kitchen or whatever. You're not really— and it's like like the photographer and the videographer would sort of be sitting like almost like a small, yeah, junky table. What's, um, so rude.

Josh: So what was your observation of the experience of our EP500? Because we had the host's experience, which I think is this disconnected— I was saying to my wife last night, the crowd was a— it was fog to start with because I'm like so in my head, so I can't interact with— I can't engage because I would lose track of what I'm doing, which I was doing great job of doing anyway. Were you nervous, Tommy? A little bit, yeah. My heart was going. And so there's that nerves, the fog, it kind of lifts. You can start to sort of engage, think about what you think, you know, think about your words, what you're saying, interacting. And so it sort of lifts. But then it's a surreal experience for us. What was yours?

Tommy: What was your view of the whole evening?

Josh: Yeah, because you've got to sort of zoomed out, you know, being behind the camera. Not with a cropped 35.

Tommy: Am I right?

Basil: Yeah, it was nice. I mean, I was I was there and I felt like in this like proud uncle position, you know, like I don't have— I haven't done anything for like my niece or nephew's success, your guys' success. But I was just like, I feel a part of this. This is great. So just on the side and in the video, it's like I was watching you guys, but I was probably watching the crowd a lot more. And because I already knew that you were getting recorded, so getting a lot of the crowd stuff was, was nice and wasn't as hard because, well, there was lots of laughs and smiles. So yeah, I think testament to you guys was the the actual gronks that turned out, like everyone was so nice. I was talking to people at the start and I was like, I'm sorry to be an asshole, but I gotta go film some stuff, you know. Everyone was just up for a chat. Yeah, yeah. Um, and, uh, I was wearing like a Yes Theory shirt and a lot of people were like, oh, you like Yes Theory?

Tommy: I was just like, I didn't even notice the Yes Theory. Yeah, it was too simple.

Basil: You guys were in the zone.

Josh: Yeah, I didn't— you didn't even remember the show afterwards.

Basil: I was just like, great show. It's like, I don't remember it.

Tommy: Who am I? No, it's interesting. Bri was saying like, oh, like there's so many times you walked past me during the night. But the thing was, I mean, nerves are an interesting thing because I didn't feel nervous. I felt this like jazz energy. Hands that just wanted to come out. No, it was just this sort of energy where I'm like— You were pacing.

Josh: I've got footage of you before. Yeah, me too. And you're pacing up and down. And at that point my heart was racing real hard because we were waiting to come out and I just took a few deep breaths and Found some relief in your nerves, which I saw, which was amazing.

Tommy: Because to me, it's— it was, um, it was less nerves and more like this excited energy that I'm fucking ready, like, this is what we're doing. Because if you think, like, when I think about nerves, there was no sense— like, I felt like I was completely in control of my voice. Like, I feel like the first thing back in the day to go would be, uh, like, uh, like your voice sort of—

Josh: No, you heard it.

Tommy: I think, you know, I think I actually think '97 didn't seem— I think I, I definitely noticed his voice, a little bit of a shift, just, just a little shift.

Josh: Yeah, you know, when you get so comfortable, you really just ride it and you're happy to do it, you know.

Tommy: Yeah, but I thought that was interesting. So I'm— I don't necessarily think like Bri was saying, oh, you people, a few people said, are you nervous or whatever? You seem sort of different. And it is that thing of, um, yeah, this overwhelming excited feeling. I think I'd feel nervous if I had to remember shit. Yeah, if I had to remember names, um, it would have been a nightmare. That's why the raffle works so well. So number, letter.

Josh: In terms of what's, what's, uh, brought my nerves to the forefront, that's probably the the one thing in the last month or two. What about you? Uncle Basil. I reckon that's your nickname. Uncle Baz. Uncle Baz. It feels right.

Basil: I mean, I already get it, so I do really from my nephews. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that makes sense.

Josh: What about from us? Gronks. Yeah, that's good. I like it. Yeah. Uncle Baz.

Tommy: We only have one other uncle, which is Uncle Trev.

Josh: You can have more than one uncle. That's the great thing about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Basil: We can have the other side of the family. Yeah, yeah. So true. Not like, not, I'm not separating myself from Trev though, but so maybe it can be on the same side. Brothers. Love you, Trev.

Tommy: Oh, imagine that. It's his bro. That's cool. Yeah.

Josh: So, uh, what's, what's made you nervous in the past sort of month? Keep it, keep it— okay.

Basil: Uh, I did a big job with, uh, Cricket Australia, so that was, that was like very the same thing though. It's like nerve excitement. I wasn't, I wasn't nervous about like our ability to, to do it. I wasn't kind of like nervous if things like fucked up or whatever because they always do. Um, and you know, we were doing something very much in our wheelhouse. Um, you know, like a, like a kind of like a sit-down kind of like interview thing with the players and they were having fun and I knew I was editing it so I felt safe that like I could cover up any fuck-ups. Um, but still it's like a, it's a big thing. It's like before like Usman Khawaja walks in the room, I'm just like like, oh, he's coming in. But it's, it's also one of those things where you have so much to think about, you kind of can't dwell on— you can't dwell on it.

Josh: Yeah, well, that— the, the stuff to think about rips you into the moment, because if you don't sit in the moment, live in the moment, it— you won't be able to do it.

Tommy: The other thing too is I reckon I was more— the feeling I had was more about being in a social setting where everyone knew who I was. And so I— there is that sense of everyone is a talking opportunity. Everyone, like, you talk to— yeah. Whereas normally if I go to a party or whatever, you know, I've sussed out these are the people who know me. Like, if I'm at the shopping centre and I see someone that I know, depending on the mood, there's definitely a high chance that I could pretend I didn't see them. And you don't have to talk to everyone else there because you don't know them. But then it's like the panic sets in because when you haven't addressed it, then you're playing this game of I'm trying to predict what aisle they're going to be in. So then you're trying to do all that and then, yeah, but you can create a, you can create a whole storey in your head which can be quite destructive.

Basil: Yeah, I was just going to say it's your party though. That's the thing. You invited everyone, so you have to, you kind of feel like you have to talk to them, you know?

Josh: And I never have parties. I haven't. There was, yes, the feeling I had was like, you can do what you want when it's your own fucking party. And that's what I kind of felt. I was just running around with my camera and like just being silly.

Tommy: One thing I got better at, like Bri came up to me and she said, you've got to go speak to people. And which I appreciate. Yeah. Which I appreciate it. And then I started doing it and I was sort of enjoying it all and it was all fine. Yeah.

Josh: What if Bri wasn't there? Do you think?

Tommy: Well, you had said, we had said beforehand that we were going to hide. Yeah.

Josh: Which I'm glad we didn't. Yeah, I know. It would have been silly.

Tommy: Well, because you'd have really been bored actually. Yeah. But I wonder what the energy would— I think, but part of it was it's like this overwhelm of face, name, this, that sort of thing of like this, ah, who's it, like context. We didn't even talk about it.

Josh: Did you notice the, um, the almost ginormous fuck-up that was made? No. Okay, good. Well, we didn't show it, but it was moments before we're about to go on stage, actually, the The video Josh edited for like the pre-walkout. Well, yeah, halfway through, nearly to the end. And I said to Josh, have they buttoned on? Have we pressed record on the mixer, which is taking the audio feed? The cameras were rolling. We knew that they've been rolling for ages.

Tommy: But that was one of the few times where we didn't have redundancy, not like we plug in from the mixer to the camera, but it was such a long distance between the camera and the mixer that we didn't run an XLR cable. Which we've learned now will always have redundancy set up.

Josh: Which is still a hard thing for us to set up.

Tommy: But we have a photo that Campbell took of Mr. 97 with his hands on his ears like this.

Josh: Can we put the photo up now? You're going to put the other video on your mobile.

Tommy: Thanks, Mr. 97. He basically panicked because we asked him, hey, have you pressed record? And he hadn't. So as the 20 seconds before we came on, he went up to— Did you? I was worried that you would have gotten in the way of the projector?

Mason: No, no, no, because I came from the side where the lights and the speakers were, so I snuck through there and hit record. What did Derek say?

Tommy: Was Derek like, oh, lucky? Or he was just—

Josh: he's fucking loving the video.

Mason: Yeah, he was in the zone. He— I don't think he realised that I hit record, so I told him like afterwards.

Basil: And is it true you heard him say, my bit's about to come up?

Josh: What? You guys got it? No, I got it, you got it. But I, I also—

Tommy: I appreciate that. 97 says, sorry, excuse me. I don't think I've ever had that before. I mean, it's— yeah, it's next level type of tired.

Josh: But yeah, I'm glad, I'm glad we sorted that out. So we buttoned on.

Tommy: What should we do for the next event? Any feedback on or thoughts? We're trying to work out, do we do episode 600? I think that was February 8th.

Josh: No, February 20th, I'm pretty sure. Friday, Valentine's. No, I mean the week after.

Basil: But yeah, yeah, that'd be fun.

Josh: Birthday. Yeah.

Tommy: Um, week after, I think it was like the 7th or something. 7th or 8th. Anyway, yeah, what should we, what should we do? We should, should we do one every 100 or does that seem too obnoxious? Every 3 months?

Basil: I think you could do, I can, you could do something, you could do something, you know, something to celebrate or something, something different.

Josh: It's one a quarter if you look at it like that.

Tommy: How do we get this, um, you know, like the reason to do a highlights package?

Basil: Yeah, I'll come along regardless.

Tommy: Do you think, how often do you reckon is a good amount of time? You've been a fan of a bunch of podcasts, and you, um, you worked with Jake and Amir when they were in Australia doing a lot of this type of content, filming all this sort of stuff. Yeah. What are some of the— what's some of the feedback or thoughts on what we could do for future?

Basil: Um, I feel like that, that reliving what has happened, um, in the last couple of months is, is an awesome exercise, um, regardless of whether you're going to actually throw an event or not. But the event's super nice, right? Yeah. Yeah. Same, different.

Tommy: Do we— do you think that the content that we did on stage versus what we do here, was it different or the same?

Basil: I think it was. I think it was a little different, but I think you guys are a little different every day, which is, which is the fun thing, you know?

Josh: Supportive uncle. Yeah. That's what a supportive uncle would say. Yeah. I think it has to get— it has to be different though.

Basil: It has to be different because, because you're going for the laughs like Do you know what I mean?

Tommy: Like, do we always go for the light? Did we? Because I heard Tommy say, yeah, yeah, he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like his grade 6 self. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, who are we talking to? It was just Rob. He's talking about the event. I was like, okay, this is Rob Ward from Quad Lock. Yeah, the guy with 4 Google Homes. At least. At least even more. Yeah. How many did he have? You were there.

Josh: I mean, I saw 4, but that's just on the ground floor.

Tommy: Just in the kitchen.

Basil: You walk in stacked on top of each other.

Tommy: Yes. Yeah. No. So what was the— do you think that we're reaching for too many laughs?

Basil: No, no, no, no.

Tommy: Because you're trying to entertain.

Basil: You're trying to entertain the people that have come along. And so you're doing some crowd work. It just makes sense. You got to— you were doing some polling. Hands up, hands up. The Nando's thing. The Nando's joke.

Tommy: Yeah. How well did that go?

Josh: The Bronx are supportive, I will tell you.

Basil: You called it out, which was also— you called yourself out afterwards as well. Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: But you enjoyed the Nando's joke.

Basil: Oh yeah, I love it all. I love the save as well. You were like, you're like, oh, that's good, that's, that's what I got, that's what I deserved. And I was like, oh, solid on it. Instant self-awareness.

Josh: You've, um, you've spent quite a bit of time in the States, it seems. Yes. Yeah. What's, uh, I know we've been doing LA fact of the day. Yes. Is there anything fun that you know? It could even be an Uncle Baz fact, like it doesn't have to be It's technical, but some dinosaur fell into some swamp material.

Basil: LA. God, no, I'm so bad. I'm so bad with this.

Tommy: What do you love? What should we do in LA? If you go to LA, because I just love the thing that you do.

Basil: I just— this LA and New York, or the thing about America I love, um, is, is just when they're a parody of themselves. When you meet someone that's just so LA, or something happens to you in New York that's just like so New York, do you know what I mean? It's like someone, like a piece of pizza, someone gets pissed off and they like slap a pizza against the window and it slides down. You're like, this is a movie.

Josh: Yeah, I'm walking here. Yeah, do you know what I mean?

Basil: It's like that's, that's just the real life, but you're like, this is, this is the movies.

Josh: Like the diner stuff, um, more coffee. Yeah, like, yeah, and it's just pouring and then you start speaking. I've been— is your head all right, Josh?

Tommy: Yeah, it's fine. It's actually good.

Basil: It's a little bit—

Tommy: it's actually, it's nice just to, uh, we'll be able to sit on the plane It's also nice to address everyone in the room. I know that you never make eye contact with Mr. 97.

Josh: You gotta carry on, mate. We stare at each other when you're not looking.

Tommy: Oh guys. Can you actually even see him through the camera? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In all seriousness.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're looking at each other now. Yeah, I mean, it's just the microphone. Are you for real, dude? What do you mean?

Tommy: I don't know what the eyeline's like. I only know my perspective. Yes, sure. And it would be arrogant to say I knew yours.

Josh: I don't think arrogant's the right word. But yeah, the coffee thing. What else is then? So what can we, what can we look out for? It's all right. We need to get him a neck brace so he has to actually physically move his whole, his whole fucking body.

Tommy: Yeah. Anything, anything else? Yeah.

Josh: Anything like show LA that we can look out for?

Basil: I think why, like what I liked and this sounds, I hate this already in my head, but I'm like, what I like is being a creator and being there because people pump up your tires. And I'm not saying that that doesn't happen in Australia and I'm not saying that doesn't happen in a community like you guys have started because it's very positive. But when, when you, when you get to LA and you're like, this is what I do, people are pumped about it. And then people are pumped like when you, when you start to talk about it and you don't feel kind of trash talking about it, you know, like that tall poppy thing. I do think that that's a real thing. It's like when you have friends who are like, God, you've been pretty heavy on Instagram lately. I'm like, motherfucker, that's what I do. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Josh: Does that make sense? So, um My best friend Rhys Mitchell, he's over in LA. We're going to have him on the show. Yeah, an actor. He was on Upper Middle Bogan and many other shows. But he was saying one of the things and he's like, I'm not coming back. Like, I love it over there so much. And he said the people are so supportive. Yeah. And I think he's— he'll probably tell us this, but the feeling of like what the industry is like in Australia versus everyone's in that town. To, to make it. And then just— and, and so, but I know what you mean, that vibe of Americans celebrating success and then the creator community, which then enhances that vibe of, you're doing that, yeah, you're doing that, amazing, let's all do this. So you said maybe, like Josh pointed out, that I'm the, you know, calling people opportunity, opportunity, opportunity. Yeah, sealed. Oh yeah, was it locked in? Locked in. Do you reckon if we called Like if I got on the blower and just, or even went into shops and like, hey guys, we're from Australia, you know, this is that.

Tommy: You've done that before. You did that with Suck on That Jewels Live. Yeah, it worked, dude.

Josh: I got into nightclubs through back entrances. He had a fucking point-and-shoot camera. I said it was an online TV show and he like got like free like winery tours, winery tours, accommodation. It was fucking ridiculous. And that was just putting myself out there. But maybe there's the putting myself out there with the understanding that we actually have now something. Back then I had nothing. I built a website but had no real videos to show. Do you think they would like the, the American, the, the people there would be receptive to a couple of gronks? Here's what we're doing. Here's how long we're here for. Opportunity, opportunity.

Basil: Hell yeah. I think, I think it's like a double-edged sword though. It's just like they'll be super pumped for you and then they'll potentially just not give a shit because everyone's doing it. It's like, I've got a podcast, it's like everyone's got a podcast, bro. Yeah, but you know what I mean? Like, that's the—

Josh: yeah, but bro, do you have the only 7-day-a-week podcast and video show in Australia? So this is what I'm trying to just reel out. I mean, 30% of the podcast— just throwing numbers again.

Tommy: Is there a food or drink that we need to have while we're in the States?

Basil: I'm— have you done In-N-Out? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I mean, I feel like we did episode 200 from In-N-Out Burger.

Basil: I don't think there's anything like super sneaky that you, that you can't get here anymore. I think the sushi burrito was like the one thing, but then you can get up in Sydney and stuff.

Josh: So I'm like, the THC oil and the, you know, the vape pens, the gummies. Oh, we won't go into it. Yeah, yeah, we're not gonna go there.

Basil: What about, um, the normal sodas? I loved it.

Tommy: There was a time— Do you like the cherries and stuff? I had a, um—

Josh: Do you like asthma? Because that's what that shit brings out.

Tommy: No, um, there was a time when I was wondering— I was doing all this walking, I wasn't losing any weight, and it was like on this trip, and I was having Reese's Peanut Butter Cups and, um, Mountain Dew. It was just like that combination, which was— I was just like high on sugar the whole time, walking through San Francisco just like I did like, I did 40,000 steps in a day. It's like I would have been having like— I know, yeah, it's quite crazy. So I do have those things, going to CVS, going to a pharmacy, yeah, and buying a bunch of crazy chocolates and stuff.

Josh: Well, there's like all the sugar-free range, that's like, they're bad for you, they're bad for you to start with, with the sugar, but then the sugar-free stuff even worse. But they have like the more rain, the The greater range of sugar-free products that are just peanut butter M&Ms.

Tommy: Oh yeah. You can't get them in Australia.

Josh: You can, but you can't. They should. So Mars don't sell them.

Tommy: So you can get the, like any, any of these things you can get the Costco.

Josh: You can get them from Costco. So I went to Conspiracy Jimmy. I went to his house and his wife got a bag, but there were bags inside of bags. There's like mini packets inside of a big packet.

Tommy: I've got a mate who works at Mars who said that there's specifically something in the formula that it's illegal in Australia. So I wonder what the deal is. Maybe there's something around importing. Remember that they don't sell it?

Josh: Yeah, the Mars don't sell it on like— they don't stock it everywhere.

Tommy: It's a grey import sort of thing.

Josh: Yeah, right, classic grey. But get your 70D grey import.

Tommy: Do you remember when grey imports were like a big deal? Like, so the, um, Ted's and Michael's cameras, like, they just couldn't compete with all the overseas stuff. I remember buying like a the Manfrotto, um, it's called the Magic Arm or whatever, like the real— yeah, those things I remember were like $400 or something in Australia, and you could get it like delivered here $200 if you went overseas.

Basil: Oh yeah, I remember like you, you'd run the, you'd run the, the math and be like, oh, it'll be $200 to ship it to Australia, but then it's still going to be cheaper. You're like, it's not— doesn't make any sense.

Tommy: So they ended up changing it, like in the early like noughties there was a huge discrepancy between all, you know, all of the prices in Australia and overseas. And it was because the distributor was charging the camera stores more, and so they couldn't be competitive. So then there was a big push against grey imports. That's when they were talking a lot about like warranties and things like that. But now they've lowered the prices, so because they know that you can just get it shipped, but now they're just like, okay, well, include tax, do all that sort of thing, you should be better off getting it in Australia.

Josh: Um, we did, uh, I think Hogan used to do some grey import stuff.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not like illegal.

Josh: What the term grey import?

Tommy: What does that mean? Grey import is getting product from a different region, like, so a different distribution. So I bought some AirPods for Bree. Grey ones. I got them from Officeworks. No, JB. JB. Yeah, was it JB? Yeah, it was. Yeah. And they, um, I opened it up and it was, um, it had a manual for like Malaysia.

Josh: So you, so you don't get the same warranties and shit? There's something—

Tommy: the thing with the Apple is because they're on international company, you're pretty good. Yeah, but it is a little bit dodgy because what they do, like, there's, I guess, sort of playing the game of currency conversion, all that sort of thing. So saying, okay, we can actually— there's actually a way, uh, if you type in an article, 97, it was done a while ago, it's like what an iPhone costs in different countries. And so I think it was Mr.

Josh: 97, but he— you bought an iPhone outright, iPhone 11. Yeah. Yeah, how much?

Mason: $750.

Tommy: But that was because you had a Good Guys $500 voucher, or no?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mason: So, so because I'm locked in on a Telstra plan, it was a good deal.

Tommy: It was a good deal. But the thing is that if you type that in, it used to be big with the iPod. You can basically see in all different parts of the world what the taxes and all that sort of thing. So you could actually say, okay, it is the cheapest in Indonesia to buy an iPhone.

Josh: Well, 2012 were the days when someone, one of your friends, would say, can you buy me something from America? Now I'd tell them to get fucked.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. But the other thing is there wasn't like the Sephoras and stuff like that, like the makeup shit. So Bri would always have this fucking long list of— have to go in and ask for NARS.

Josh: Any like a traditional— some kind of— when you're traveling, do you bring home something?

Basil: Is there nice tea towel? No, I try. I still like to send postcards when I'm away. That's that's really nice. Even send like a couple to like my housemate, which is really myself, you know, in the long run. Like, what do I want to say? I'm like, oh, I like that. Um, so yeah, but I don't know, I don't have like a, um, like I'll bring something home. My nephews, I still try and bring something for them. Yeah, there's 3 of them, 3 little, little gronks. Uh, but yeah, no, nothing.

Josh: No, they're my kids. No, your uncle, and they're my kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I look after them.

Basil: Yeah. Um, but no magnets or— I like, I do like that stuff. I think that that's, that's cool if you're doing it all the time.

Josh: What about travelling comfy? So I've got, um, something I've worked out.

Tommy: I hope you're not going to bring a neck pillow.

Basil: Yeah, I hope you are bringing it.

Josh: I'm fucking bringing the neck pillow. It's one flight. Multiple flights is annoying, and I'd rather have the neck pillow there than not have it. The other thing I'm bringing— thongs. Solid. Because I've like— the neck pillow is so big, it gets so hot. It's not that big, this one. One. My feet get so hot. So my, my travel comfy now is, oh, lip balm. Oh, um, if I want to spend the money, go and get eye drops to keep me hydrated, the eyeballs hydrated, a toothbrush, thongs, and the neck pillow. What about—

Basil: what's yours? Solid. Um, I used to wear like, uh, compression like underwear. Did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, especially on those long ones. Yeah, I really like it. Just, uh, as in like the, the full tight things. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Two times, so you're like, yes, skins. Yeah, yeah, but like the cheap version of those. But yeah, I did, I definitely saw, um, I saw a big, um, uh, like New Zealander, but there was these huge Māori boys and, um, they were just rocking the skins with short shorts, with the, with the thongs, um, with, with singlets, the neck pillows. And I was like, these guys do it in style, and it makes sense, they're huge. You know, so it's like they've got a, you, you know, you gotta have, you gotta have be in the comfort zone for 14 hours. So I was like, I'm gonna rock skins. And it's also, it's like, it's good for, um, it's good for blood as well.

Josh: Yeah, deep vein thrombosis. Yeah. Uh, yeah, no, I like that. I like that. I mean, you're getting your little pod, definitely bring a pair of tracksuit pants. I mean, Mr. 97, you're the probably the most under-traveled, yeah, member of the Gronkh squad in this room. Uh, Anything that you would like. You don't know what you don't know, I guess. That's what I'm saying. I mean, I was—

Tommy: bring your passport and bring— yeah, where is your passport right now?

Mason: Uh, it's in my bedroom on my shelf.

Tommy: Are you gonna remember it?

Mason: Yeah, I mean, it'd be a nightmare not having it.

Tommy: I know. Yeah, keep going. Sorry, I was thinking about a neck pillow.

Mason: It's a blow-up one, so you don't have to worry about it.

Basil: Don't do it, not worth it. The blow-up one, trash. Yeah, trash, trash, trash. You're gonna say trash, trash can instead of bin. Get used to that.

Mason: Um, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have thought of bringing a toothbrush on the plane. Sure. I don't know.

Tommy: I don't know. To be honest, I don't bring anything.

Josh: Do you only think when—

Tommy: the only thing that I'll— the only thing—

Josh: what are we going to say? I was going to say, have you then thought retrospectively after a flight, fuck, that would have been nice to have a new pair of underwear because I shat myself?

Tommy: I mean, the thing is, no, like That's a solid idea. So some people like going up and getting to the bathroom and do all that sort of stuff.

Josh: Nah, like, once that fucking hydraulic—

Tommy: yeah, yeah, bloody back has gone down. Yeah, I just relax, disengage. I will have my QuietComfort headphones, the Bose headphones, noise cancelers. Love that. And I'll have them on, and that's— that's right, playing something, or you just— yeah, I'll put on an audiobook book. I'll probably download, uh, there's a good album by Kimbra.

Josh: Yeah, Rhys Mitchell, who we've got on the show, did the artwork for that album.

Tommy: Settle down. Painted the cinematography. Um, yeah, so I feel like, yeah, I'm very low maintenance. I don't even drink much water.

Josh: I don't want to have to get up, so I just sort of Don't take a leaf out of his book. The thing is, I've over-engineered it because you will. This is the only time I say overthink it, but think about this. The only time you ever hear me say that.

Tommy: When we were in New York, yeah, you were fucked.

Josh: This is not me, this is not me having a go at you.

Tommy: No, but I'm saying in regards to the, uh, experience, or, uh, who—

Josh: Josh had been travelling 3 months and then I met him. And I was absolutely rooted from the 20-hour flight.

Tommy: And I came from Europe.

Josh: Yeah, so 3 months you'd been traveling. Yeah, you've been traveling. You're acclimatised to the good life.

Tommy: And I'd come, drank 5 bottles of wine.

Josh: He couldn't— I drank 5 bottles of wine, Basil.

Tommy: You were struggling a little bit with walking.

Josh: 100% because I got off and hadn't been walking, and then we did 15K a day. I was like, fuck.

Mason: Why didn't you use the Um, there's a way.

Tommy: No, no, no, there's a—

Mason: there's an app called Time Shifter and it gets you into the time zone of the country before you go.

Josh: Mate, we're leaving tomorrow. When did you— why are you bringing this up?

Mason: Exactly, because I'm going to— I'm going to bed tonight at 8 o'clock, waking up at 3 o'clock. Wow. And Mum's got like melatonin spray, so you like lift your tongue up and you spray.

Tommy: He's got a full plan that he's just revealing now. Yeah, this is that sandbagging I spoke about. Seriously? Yeah, I know. No, but It sends you—

Mason: it will send you notifications when I'm on the plane.

Tommy: So you're waking up at 3?

Mason: Maybe I'll do the same. I'm waking up at 3 o'clock tomorrow morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: No way to wake up.

Mason: Actually, no, it says 4 o'clock. 4 o'clock this morning, I think it is. And then I've got to get bright light exposure from 4 till—

Josh: wow, 2 PM. You need to get the Solarium last week.

Tommy: Yeah, did you say bright exposure? From 4? I'm going to have to break something else.

Mason: Exactly. So you're going to have, I mean, you'd love it. You just have your phone in your face.

Tommy: Is that enough light? Well, this is the thing, mate. This is the thing. Like, I just sleep on the plane. So my whole approach, which is perfect, is like a lot of people will say, okay, you got to stay up for the first half, then fall asleep. And so then you wake up for breakfast.

Josh: What's wrong with that thinking?

Tommy: Because that's how it works. But from a personal point of view, I can sleep anytime. So I'll sleep at the start and I'll sleep at the end. I'll just sleep the whole time. Yeah, I'll just, I'll literally, I'll have my headphones in, I'll be playing an audiobook. When I'm awake, I'll listen to it. When I'm asleep, I won't.

Josh: So you just go through the motions, wake up, go to bed again.

Tommy: You go in and out, in and out, in and out.

Josh: So you've had a mediocre, like, because I think the thinking would be stay up, try and actually get some solid sleep so you get into your REM sleep or whatever, you know, you get into that stuff. And then you wake up, you're like, I've had less, but I've had a solid amount. Because I've done that. I've done that one and I've tried to do the stay out one. Tomorrow's a flight during the day for a lot of it. Yeah. Which would make sense because I mean, I just drove in this morning.

Tommy: I don't think it's a good idea, me changing my approach. Oh yeah.

Josh: Because I don't do what you do. Do what you do.

Basil: I think you can have all the plans in the world and then it can still go ass up. Yeah. And I dare say it'll take you, it takes you a couple of days to do the shift anyway. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't say don't do whatever.

Tommy: Mr. 97 was fucking jet lagged for Sydney. It happens, it happens.

Basil: You gotta, you gotta figure out what, what works for you. Um, but then just know that the universe is gonna, he's gonna fuck you. It's gonna delay you by a couple of hours, or you're gonna have like, you're gonna be— I was once surrounded by 4 babies on a 15-hour flight, and I was just like, this is just comical, and you have to laugh. And I was like, I have noise-canceling headphones, but but the people around me don't and they're just hating life.

Josh: Uncle B, yeah, I'll be surrounded by two babies, a couple of them, and they'll be surrounded by two.

Tommy: I wonder what the seating arrangement's gonna be.

Josh: Yeah, I know, I don't want the middle. Who's— yeah, I think, I think it's great. So if I— whoever's in the middle, I reckon we could sort of do a rotation. I know Josh won't like that, but Mr. 97—

Tommy: actually, I'm fine to go the middle the whole way. It doesn't bother you?

Josh: Wow. I mean, the thing is, I'm fucking generous. I mean, stand up guy. But the thing is, because the way that I sleep like this. Like Ben Affleck in that movie where his head doesn't go back that far.

Basil: It does. Look at it.

Tommy: It does. What do you mean? On the plane? Yeah, it will. Yeah. Is that a mosquito?

Mason: Yeah, it's just going mental. It fell off the roof or whatever.

Tommy: Isn't it a mosquito? No, no, no. Okay, no, that's— I mean, it doesn't matter.

Josh: That's a solid move. That's a solid move. Like, I'd be pissed if I was in the middle, um, but I'd deal with it. I was in the middle to Singapore and it was fine, but I mean, so that wasn't that far.

Tommy: Yeah, it's funny. I think that I've built a— I think part of my storey is that I'm low maintenance when it comes to travel. I can sleep anywhere. I don't need to— like, even things like noise doesn't bother me. I've never been super, uh, our mate, uh, a tall gronk. Pete Shepherd was saying, caught up with him on Monday morning. He said he had to go and tell off his neighbours because they were making noise at 10:30. And I don't reckon like that sort of stuff. I'm pretty, I'm pretty good with like it's, it doesn't, it's going to take a fair bit. Maybe like physically pushing me is one thing. Like when, when that's a bit obnoxious.

Josh: I just hope we get a 3 to the side. So there's 3, 4, 3. And so hopefully get 3, we can just cosy up, you know, the gronks, we just lie on each other, you know, whatever.

Tommy: The thing is like you close your eyes. Yeah. And like, that's what you do. What do you think, Basil?

Basil: I love it. I, yeah, I'd love to be a passenger beside you guys. Are you going to record on the plane, by the way?

Josh: We'll record bits and bobs. Actually, we'll do Insta storeys and stuff.

Tommy: We need to speak about that. So I was thinking we should be doing 2 Insta storeys each an hour for the Daily Talk Show. So 6 an hour. 6 an hour.

Josh: So 6 an hour across a 24-hour period, or—

Tommy: yeah, so we're gonna have to rotate sleeping. No jokes on that aspect, but I think that if we did a sort of a 12 to 14-hour day waking hours, 2 Instagram stories, and that's, that's doable.

Josh: I mean, you could do that even if we hit sort of 3/4 of that.

Tommy: It's great. So imagine this, I can— we can dial it in so we can say Do a poll, do a photo, do a video, do a questionnaire, poll. Yeah, photo, video, question time, poll, video.

Josh: What you want? How about this? Do what you want. Just gonna get the two out.

Tommy: Yeah, that's a good one. Do what you want. I'm helping. I know I'm giving 97 a bit of a structure because I know he likes that.

Josh: He's probably already got a schedule ground out.

Tommy: Are we scheduling? Are we gonna schedule stuff? Yeah, yeah. It's great. You need to, you need to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We collect it. Whenever it goes collective, you know that the, uh, it's slightly risky.

Josh: Uh, Basil, Uncle Basil, thank you for coming on the show.

Tommy: No, I'm gonna go and watch that video again.

Josh: It will be 100 times.

Tommy: Yeah, I'll play it 100. Literally, we were in a meeting, uh, this morning and, uh, just pulled it out and just said, hey guys, watch this video.

Josh: Episode 500, the highlights.

Mason: Yeah, he did.

Tommy: Got It went down well.

Josh: Yeah, it was a good time. One of the guys even said, is that Jay Muller? Yeah, which—

Tommy: yeah, yeah, it was, it was. So there you go. Yeah, it's a daily talk show. We'll see tomorrow. So tomorrow is Friday in Australia, Thursday in LA, and we'll be streaming. We're gonna livestream from about 6 PM, uh, in LA, which I think will be about the 2-hour Instagram—

Mason: Instagram storeys every 2 hours. I mean, yeah, every hour. You've got plenty of lead-up time announcements.

Tommy: Sure. Yeah, yeah, we'll let you know. Yeah, perfect. Thank you. Uh, we've got some emails, but we can do that, um, in LA. We'll see you tomorrow, guys. Thanks, Basil. Bye.