No Fights On The Flight

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 496.

Tommy: Happy Fat Fridays.

Josh: We are live in our Abbotsford studio just outside of the Melbourne CBD.

Tommy: Yeah, uh, thanks for letting us know where we are.

Josh: I haven't done that in a while.

Tommy: Nah, there was some serious thunder, if we're going to get specific about what we've been enduring here in Abbotsford.

Josh: What about the lightning?

Tommy: Lightning. Well, we can't confirm if there was lightning. We did not see it.

Josh: We saw a huge lightning flash. That huge flash was lightning.

Tommy: You saw it? Did you see it?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah. Two confirmations.

Josh: So, 97 said, wow, look at that. And then, yeah.

Tommy: And that's where it's not. So, we don't really experience lightning storms, thunderstorms in Melbourne like Sydney do. It is a weekly occurrence in Sydney. It is a good thing about Sydney.

Josh: When I was freelancing, there were so many times that if there was a storm, I was really paranoid about my computer and I didn't have the cash to buy a, uh, UPS. Is it UPS? UPS, yeah.

Tommy: Why are you paranoid about a computer? What's wrong with that?

Josh: Uh, basically the, um, the lightning fucking the computer.

Tommy: How would it do that?

Josh: So you like a surge? Is that what happens?

Mason: 97, I think, like, basically when it ruins the computer.

Josh: Yeah, so it's like, uh, you can ruin all electronics if you're— yeah, with it through lightning.

Tommy: But usually motherboards and stuff now have like surge protection and a lot of houses over I remember because I'm a gronk who's used scissors and cut through a cord before and I didn't die. Why? Accidentally. I was cutting Christmas paper and I got to a point where I was like, this is a bit harder, this bit of the paper. And it went, and it went, and a little bit of smoke came up and it blew a piece out of the scissor. But the, the switchboards. Yeah. So that's been around for a long time. So I don't know.

Mason: The UPS is more for saving data down.

Josh: Sure.

Mason: So your computer doesn't crash and you lose stuff.

Josh: But it also probably regulates the amount of power that gets to the— Yeah. So what I think happens is you can send too much power to an electronic device, which would make it unusable.

Tommy: I think it's an old-school problem. So it was probably back when you had your bloody tower.

Josh: But anyway, it was a good excuse because as soon as if I saw that there was even a bit of thunderstorms on the radar, turn the computer down.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: Yeah. I'd still keep the TV on. Was this your dad?

Tommy: Dad telling you this, or did you just say, go get it?

Josh: No, I'm sure it was something I heard on a podcast.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And it was convenient because it was just like, fuck. I would actually say to clients, hey guys, sorry, I'm not going to be able to do that edit.

Mason: Really?

Tommy: I mean, any excuse.

Josh: Any excuse. Our internet went out for like a minute before, which was good. Fat Fridays though.

Tommy: I'm starving.

Josh: So you were using an app?

Tommy: Oh yeah, this app is great. And this is not a paid endorsement because we don't make any money.

Josh: I also love— we'll get to it in a sec. Go on.

Tommy: Eatclub is an app that my wife put me onto, and it's great for tight asses.

Josh: But also someone who I should actually be, given I get takeaway or like food from restaurants.

Tommy: So what you're saying is lazy cunts?

Josh: No, people that they choose that as part of their core value within their lifestyle.

Tommy: You're saying like, if you just want to eat out most meals. Now, this is great. I said you should get onto it because it's going to save you a lot of cash. Eatclub. You download the app, it opens up a map, it shows you all the restaurants around where you are, your area, and you click on it if it's red and it pops up a discount that it's applied to that restaurant. So we found this is our favourite pizza place, Rita's, had 30% off, and 30% is a fucking shitload of money off. Yeah. And so there was another place Amy and I got 40% off. Took the three of us there, Bodhi, myself, and Amy. And we all had like, we all had a mate. What was it? Um, it was like a Spanish tapas bar, but they like, they did great meals. I got like some vegan bowl, which I was like, it's very expensive. I wouldn't normally get that, but it's 40% off.

Josh: Can you get push notifications?

Tommy: Maybe, I don't know.

Mason: You probably could. Probably. Ian said good luck after last week's Fat Friday, Josh.

Josh: So, oh yeah, thank you.

Mason: You must be pretty excited.

Josh: I'm very, very excited. Talking about the no money, um, thing, not making any money.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: You were invited on to Ben Fordham's radio show.

Tommy: Mate, the big, the big B, Big Ben Fordham up in Sydney.

Josh: Oh no, you've fucked that. You've taken half your—

Tommy: Don't judge me.

Josh: Half of your toppings have fallen off your pizza there. Yeah, no. So there was an article yesterday in the paper about the podcasting. And so obviously we couldn't get us both on air on the phone. It was too difficult. And Fordo's obviously made the call that it's like, better mates with Josh. I don't want to make uncomfortable for Tommy, so I'm going to ask Tommy to go on. Plus you do have the pzazz of being able to, um, if he was to ask me about podcasting, I could potentially get bogged down.

Tommy: It was live radio on the biggest show in Sydney and on AM.

Josh: And so I listened back.

Tommy: Yeah, because it goes out on a podcast.

Josh: Yeah, so listen, I listened to the podcast. Did you listen to it, 97?

Mason: Only the snippets.

Josh: Oh, Jesus Christ, are you right eating there? It's about your timing.

Tommy: What do you mean? He always eats with his mouth— he always talks with his mouth open.

Josh: It's a real thing, isn't it?

Tommy: Has mum ever said, pull your fucking head in?

Mason: No, dad does it all the time. As in, dad tells me off all the time.

Tommy: Yeah, you're not going to listen to No, that's not too bad.

Josh: Well, his dad also pulled up the fact he said, Mason, I heard that you're emceeing. What have you been preparing? Have you got a script? Have you learned what you're going to say? Have you? No.

Tommy: Okay. Your dad's probably run a few presentations in his time.

Mason: Yeah. Yeah, he hasn't. I don't think he's emceed anything, but he's run—

Josh: he's done master of ceremonies. It's a big job. Don't fuck it up. Anyway, so I was listening to the podcast.

Tommy: Anyone see you, by the way? I just put your box down. Just put it on top.

Josh: Okay, well, I want another slice soon anyway. The, uh, so I was listening, first thing came out of your mouth.

Tommy: What was it?

Josh: Yeah, uh, growth of 30%, uh, Ben. Yeah, where'd you get this number?

Tommy: I read it somewhere, read it somewhere a while ago. Maybe it was a Melbourne article, but it was about, oh, in the entire industry. Um, when did we start? 2017? It was 2017 to No, we started in 2018. It was 2018 to '19, the growth of podcast listeners in that period. So I reeled off that stat and so I hadn't read it. Did you read it? I had read— I've used it before. And my point of saying it was like, in the short time that we've done this podcast, podcasting itself has grown 30% here in Australia, something around that.

Josh: I think you did a great, great job.

Tommy: Thanks, mate.

Josh: I enjoyed the, yeah, the confidence and all these different bits and pieces. But I was thinking Fuck, maybe as I was listening, maybe it's the control freak in me, but I'm like, oh, maybe there's some dot points that we could sort of put together in the future.

Tommy: No, definitely. I did think that, and I was like, he asked, um, so you really doubled down on that, mate?

Josh: Yeah, not making any cash, could never make cash. If you want to make cash, don't do this.

Tommy: I think it's a good piece of advice. I think it's not— if you want to do it, Fernando's not giving a shit. No, no, no, no, no. But we're earning it, right? We're fucking done 500 episodes. My point being is If someone starts a podcast early days and they think they're going to make money and they've just decided, oh, I've got this idea, I want to do a podcast, I want to— and then they connect that to, and I want to make money when I first start and maybe into the first 20 episodes, I want to make heaps of cash.

Josh: Was there anything else that you're a 1%?

Tommy: If you can do that, you're an absolute unicorn.

Josh: You love talking numbers. Unicorn.

Tommy: Yeah, you're a unicorn. Anyway, what was your question?

Josh: Any other dot points that you think that maybe in the future This isn't a stitch-up, I'm just curious. For our show? No, just in that, in that conversation.

Tommy: Um, if someone's talking about— yeah, I think there's— I mean, the thing with stats, right, what we know of them is half of them are fucking bullshit. Who's come up with them? Well, no, they've all come up with the list. Who's come up with— so there's some good stats around our numbers. What are you looking at, Mr. 9711?

Josh: Because he's laughing. Because I don't know if they're bullshit, like, I think they're fine.

Mason: No, because What's that US company?

Josh: Edison Research. We had the lovely CEO here, Larry. He came into the office '97 and I met him. Lovely bloke. He was on Game Changers with Craig Bruce, not to be confused with the vegetarian documentary.

Mason: I think it's Larry Rosen or something like that.

Josh: Yeah, lovely guy. But the, um, a couple of things, uh, having been on You've been very good previously when we've had guests on where you say 97. What was the episode number the last time they came on?

Tommy: And so that was it when we're here.

Josh: And so there was probably a little, the not knowing the number that he was on.

Tommy: I don't think it matters.

Josh: It didn't matter that much, but it was, he's a friend of ours.

Tommy: And so the thing, he's just, how funny was he though? Yeah, he was, because I said something like, um, Everyone cheque out Ben Fordham. If you're gonna cheque out one, make sure you listen to the episode with Ben Fordham. And Ben said, 'Oh, what number was that?' I said, 'I was 470-something.' It's 461. Yeah, it was 461. I had to look after— I nearly got close. Fuck, I should just— I was gonna go 460-something, but I didn't. And then he said, 'Oh yeah, it must have been a great one, the 470-something number.' And you hear me laugh really loudly. I fucking thought it was hilarious.

Josh: It was good.

Tommy: But it's, it's a funny one. Like the— it's— we do so many of these. It's— if we'd only done 10 and I can't remember which fucking number it is.

Josh: I think it's a low issue. 97 is the producer. Is there anything that you think that we could be pushing in regards to our communication of the show? Yeah.

Mason: No, I do. I do think having the details around the show that Ben was on would be a great idea.

Tommy: It'd be amazing if I had a producer that thought ahead like that. To be honest, you know, I can't think of everything.

Mason: I mean, to be honest, Josh let— Josh told me at 4-something that you were gonna go on the show.

Josh: Yeah, I don't think you communicated it to Mason at all.

Tommy: Yeah, um, no.

Mason: Well, how long did the bit go for? Because you put a snippet up on Instagram. Was that the whole bit?

Josh: No, no, no, no, no, no.

Tommy: 4 minutes, 5 minutes.

Josh: Yeah, it went for like 4 minutes.

Mason: Okay.

Tommy: I think the thing about—

Josh: so I cut out the stuff I put on Instagram, I'd cut out all the stats stuff and Sure.

Tommy: Yeah, well, it was an AM chat about, and it like was, you know, a bit newsy, which is hard because then you go, what, what shall we, who are you talking to and how do you bring some energy or what kind of energy do you bring based on the show?

Josh: Well, the stat that you brought was interesting also because I think that what he was, the information that he was bringing was, hey, we've got new information, we've got new stats. People are spending 15 minutes of their time or whatever a day on podcasting. So it was a brave move bringing out, like adding another stat to it, which is fine. The only thing that I would have done differently, I would have mentioned the 10 years. I think 10 years is a really good sell.

Tommy: Whereabouts would have you done that?

Josh: I probably, I would have cut half.

Tommy: Hey Josh, how are you? Yeah, 10 years here.

Josh: Which is better, that or 30%?

Tommy: I think 30%.

Josh: No, I think you could say, I think you could say Yeah, Ben, we realise that this is a growing industry.

Mason: You can see 30% year-on-year increase. You think we're doing it for 10 years. We're in it for the long haul. You know, 300% growth.

Josh: This can happen.

Tommy: That's a press release.

Mason: 3,000%.

Josh: You know what I mean? This is great.

Tommy: Let's just take that. Send that out as a dynamic media kit.

Josh: Because you did get a little bit cash is trash.

Tommy: Yeah, I got a bit cash is trash.

Josh: Did you say cash is trash?

Tommy: I think I was thinking about who I'm talking to. On that show.

Josh: They would have loved it. The old fucks would have loved it based on— not that all of his— there's a small portion of his audience.

Tommy: I know, I'm sure if you actually looked at it. No, no, AM radio. Who listens to AM radio? It's an older demographic. Is that Twitch's demographic?

Josh: And the thing was, I don't think that all people are old fucks, or I don't even call people that are old, old fucks.

Tommy: However, not what happened just 5 minutes ago down the street.

Josh: I never called anyone an old guy.

Tommy: That old guy that drove out, you yelled at him.

Josh: He's making shit up.

Tommy: I punched his car though.

Josh: No, but, no, there are people who are old school. Maybe that's an old school fucks. And they would say podcasting is bullshit. You can't make money off podcasting. It's, you know, Uncle fucking Simon at the Christmas party.

Tommy: Yeah, it's an interesting one because you go, what do you say? Yeah, you can make money out of it. But then I think where people get the wrong idea is when people—

Josh: that's amazing—

Tommy: say something like, yeah, you get— you can make money out of it. It's like, can you make a dollar? Yeah. Can you make two? Yeah. You know, you can make some money, but it's— but the point being is people think, okay, can I make a full-blown career from day one doing this thing? And most things you ever do in life, you can't from day one. You could build skills and time in the industry and whatever.

Josh: I thought it was good.

Mason: Yeah, it's good.

Tommy: No, you didn't listen to it, mate.

Josh: You listened to the little snippet. It shows you the power of snippets, though. See why I'm harping on about snippets? People only watch snippets.

Mason: Yeah, I got to go back and listen to it. But Harry said he's just finished his fourth exam and he's celebrating. He's off the moon. What was I going to say?

Josh: He was out of the moon? No.

Mason: What's the saying? He's over the moon. Over the moon.

Tommy: He's over the moon.

Mason: He's over there.

Josh: We don't know astrology, guys.

Tommy: Harry's over the moon.

Mason: Harry's over the moon. Uh, Laura said, yes, Mr. 97, that is your opening line for your MC gig.

Tommy: Which one?

Josh: Which is 30%?

Mason: The 30% year-on-year growth.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. Can you—

Josh: could you do almost a Steve Jobs presentation of where podcasting's at?

Mason: I get a turtleneck, just your glasses, Josh.

Josh: Yes. How do we feel about that? It's pretty funny.

Tommy: It'd be quite funny.

Mason: I need a clicker.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I'd love a presentation.

Tommy: That's funny. Anyway, but, um, and then Benny did message me after, said, thanks, buddy. I said, yeah, mate, really appreciate you having me on. He said, I hope Josh isn't too jealous. The thing is, I mean, do you think you'd get— if, if you were on that show, do you think he would say, hope Tommy wasn't too jealous, to you? Or has he read the room quite right?

Josh: Oh look, I think— no, this is the thing. I think everyone projects this on me because the thing is I was fine about it. I got home, said, oh, Tommy was on Ben Formage. Yes, why weren't you on? I was like, well, there's no problem. Like, he's taking a phone call. I didn't really look into it. Why is it a problem? And so it seems like all you fucks were projecting something. Sorry for being so aggressive today. Yeah, everyone sort of Everyone was saying that I should make— like, it sounds like Ben was trying to make me jealous. No, if someone says, are you jealous?

Tommy: I think it's something in your personality. Remember how I said to you, like, for some reason there's some times that I want to fuck with you?

Josh: And it's like, so do you think Ben was just trying to fuck with me? That's the only reason, right?

Tommy: Maybe.

Josh: Maybe. Why else would he have you on?

Tommy: I was like, whatever storey you want to wrap it in.

Josh: Either way, Yeah, it's good.

Mason: Trev said, um, Lynn Jansen joined, by the way, Josh. Trev said, how about Mrs. J streaming this live? She's lengths ahead of my mum on tech.

Josh: Yeah, she's very good with that. Must be, um, what's today, Friday? He finishes early on Friday.

Tommy: Doesn't she have a day off once a week?

Josh: Maybe. Yeah, because she works late on Thursdays, so it could be that. Um, update on, uh the event.

Tommy: Yeah, so EB-500 on Tuesday night, very, very excited. Uh, I've spoken to our— well, our person who we want to read out the results of the testosterone test.

Josh: This is Nathan from The Athlete's Foot.

Tommy: Yeah, he's the one who, uh, we stumbled upon. You know, it was— it's quite serendipitous really.

Josh: Is he, um, is he studying?

Tommy: Not sure, to be honest. Wasn't that inquisitive. Okay, I just thought he works at Foot Locker, you've got a link in the athlete's foot, seems like a great guy. So I, I called Nathan. He gave me his number over Instagram, didn't— I mean, took no time. He just, yeah, here it is, call me. So I called him and it was probably like 8:30 PM. I'd put Bodhi to bed and I just said, uh, Nathan Did you find out?

Josh: Is he over 18?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Look at his Instagram. He's out drinking, he's on the piss, he's, uh, he's loving life.

Josh: Okay, anyway, it could change the dynamic.

Tommy: Yeah, it's really actually really funny.

Josh: Catch a Predator sort of thing.

Tommy: Either way, he, um, he's— he knew who it was. He said, uh, g'day mate, and then I said, it's Tommy. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was watching The Bachelorette with his missus. Um, so I said I didn't want to take too much of his time, but I did officially ask him to come down on the Tuesday night and would love for you to be our official The Daily Talk Show, uh, award announcer.

Josh: Sure. So I'm guessing he gets these requests a lot based on being working at Shopo, the athlete's foot.

Tommy: Yeah, well, it's a pretty weird, um, phone call to take, to be honest. Anyway, he said he's trying to juggle some shifts around. He's super keen. I invited him and his girlfriend along if she would like to join.

Josh: And what did he say?

Tommy: And yeah, he's keen. He's getting back to me. So I don't know, it wasn't a yes, but it wasn't a no.

Josh: So what is he waiting for?

Tommy: I don't know. Do you have to have it? I mean, how easy is it to find out when your shifts are on?

Josh: Very easy.

Tommy: I think he said something about juggling.

Mason: If his shift, I think it was finishing at 6 o'clock or something like that. So he's just trying to get someone to Okay, we can make this work.

Tommy: Whatever we need to do, whatever we need to do, it will happen. But so that is it. Oh, another good thing. I've just worked out what we're doing with Bode. I was in a bit of a pickle because Mum's— it's a bit sad Mum can't make it. She's got yoga. She's going to teach.

Josh: I'm going to teach. At first, when you said she's got yoga, I thought she just had a yoga class. I thought you probably could shift that.

Tommy: Oh, she definitely would. But Mum's got yoga, so she needs the car. And Dad, he doesn't really like going out that much.

Josh: Well, he would love a U79 for all the plants.

Tommy: Oh, definitely, definitely. But so what he's going to do, Timbo, he's stepped up. He's going to go pick up Bodie from daycare. And because we want Amy to be able to come and have a nice time with Bree. And so Dad's picking up Bodie and going to take him home. He's going to have a sleepover at Mum and Dad's place.

Josh: And great.

Tommy: And the only kicker is I have to go and pick him up, which will mean I have to leave at probably 5:30 AM the following morning after our EP500.

Josh: Oh yeah.

Tommy: But that's okay.

Mason: When were you talking about you were, you were going to go early to your mum's house to get Bodhi? It was like 11 o'clock.

Josh: It was a weekend.

Tommy: Yeah, that was a weekend. He had a sleepover last Friday, which was lucky.

Josh: The date night with Nathan.

Tommy: So this is a weekday, and so Bode has to be back at daycare in East Melbourne, so I've got to go probably 50-minute drive to Mum and Dad's place in the first thing in the morning. But it's worth it.

Josh: Yeah, I'll be tired.

Tommy: We go away the next day.

Josh: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Is that the next day?

Tommy: Shit. The next day.

Josh: So I wake up by Wednesday. Yeah, yeah, the next day. Yeah, it's crazy.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh, we got an email from Jack who invited us to his event. I haven't emailed back yet, but Jack, sorry. We're not going to be able to make it because the next morning we have a flight. But if you're not watching this, we'll also email you.

Tommy: Gotta have some family time. Are you going to do anything nice for Bree before you go?

Josh: Yeah, I think so.

Tommy: I think eat club.

Josh: I mean, I've actually never— yeah, maybe I'll see if Nathan's got a shift on. Little date night. Nathan, you get it? No. Date night. Maybe I'll see if Nathan's got a shift. Maybe Bree and I could go to the athlete's foot.

Tommy: Putting in effort for The show. No worries.

Josh: Does he understand what I'm saying?

Tommy: Yeah, I'm saying you're making fun that I went there, so you're making fun of it. I'm saying no worries, putting in effort for the show.

Josh: Okay, sorry, sorry. Um, no, I think, yeah, we'll do something. I think, um, I've never had a drink before a flight because I've only just discovered alcohol recently, so I'm torn on whether to have a bit of red wine At the night before.

Tommy: Oh, that's not the— the night before, that's not a drink before a flight.

Mason: That's what time's the flight again?

Tommy: The point of drinking before a flight is to drink before you walk onto the flight. Not that— I went to the airport so fucking hungover, it was horrible. Such a stupid move.

Josh: Yeah, so that's why I'm not going to do that.

Tommy: No, don't do that. But on the flight, I mean, it's a 14-hour flight to LA, it's, um, you've got enough time to have a few few red wines at lunch. I mean, you haven't even, um, you should be able to do it online with, through your status through Virgin to get vegetarian meals. Otherwise you're going to be bloody picking around a big sausage.

Josh: I was actually thinking, did I tell you about the email that I got from Virgin?

Mason: No.

Josh: With my status, they said, hey Josh, you're, um, eligible to upgrade for me. Just me. And so Tommy was saying, nah, man, do it. Of course. Just of course do it.

Tommy: Because I would fucking do it if I had an option to upgrade to get away from you.

Josh: I just get the vibe.

Tommy: Fuck with.

Josh: I just, I feel like it's a, um, gronk move. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's like when, if your partner says, oh no, you can go out tonight, just go out, go out. And then I like, then we arrive in LA and I'm like, oh man, I'm feeling so good. And you guys are just like fucking like the ball.

Tommy: It's good.

Josh: I don't want it. Yeah, I don't want to give myself an advantage.

Tommy: Can you do it?

Josh: No, no, no, no, no.

Tommy: Because then you could actually come down and let me go up for sort of a couple of hours and then Mr. 97 can go up.

Josh: So I have to give—

Mason: it's better having 1/3 of the team performing higher than all 3 of us.

Tommy: That's solid from the stat guy. From the—

Josh: and so if I'm performing already sort of at a higher rate, I'm seeing diminishing returns with me being any better.

Mason: What do you mean? Well, but you'll be worse once you come off the flight.

Josh: No, I'm very— I'm a very good— I'm a good travel traveler.

Mason: Yeah, as if your back doesn't get sore in the chair.

Josh: No, well, because the thing is that I just sort of—

Mason: Do you get a lying back chair when you upgrade, or is that—

Josh: Yeah, it'll be a flat— if you do, um, business, it'll be flat lay or flat lie or whatever. The thing is, on that Sydney flight, there was a guy like which is a very controversial thing to do, put his seat back.

Tommy: Why is it controversial?

Mason: You got to put your seat back if he does that.

Josh: No, no, I didn't. I refused to do it. I just dealt with it. You know, for a flight that's less than an hour and a half, do not put your seat back. That's because you put yours back too, didn't you?

Tommy: I actually looked behind, there was no one behind me. Okay, that was, that was, yeah, I mean, that's the probably the most courteous thing I've ever done.

Josh: But the good thing is that he fell sort of when he put it back, he did it into my knee.

Tommy: And international seats really go back.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, sure.

Tommy: The, um, the guy that I was sitting next to on the flight to Singapore recently, oh, he was so angry. This woman put her seat back. You should have seen what he was—

Mason: he was—

Tommy: you could tell he's a tempered man. Yeah, I mean, I had quite a— like, was just sort of highly— and what are with people? Need the seat. Yeah, but like, you know, then I know how he feels. You sort of like get up and you emphasise your movement. Yeah, to show maybe you can sort of just, uh, fucking remind them what's up. Which you did it so hard. I was like, oh dude, you just double—

Josh: I actually remember feeling a knee, uh, in my back. It was like on a, like a cheap airline where it's like they didn't have that much padding. And so I was just grabbing, like I put my arm behind my back and would just grab their knee through the seat.

Tommy: Yeah, because it was like any padding had gone. Yeah, I've been the guy that was kneeing a guy and you felt— I didn't know, I was like, dude, what do you mean? I'm just fucking moving my seat. And he could feel every single brush of my knee across the back. I was like, oh, I didn't get it. And then he told me after, he's like, oh, sorry dude, the seat's like— feel it. And I felt it.

Josh: You guys had a conversation after?

Tommy: Because I said to him, mate, we're on a flight, what do you think? I said he should have turned around, had this real go at me. I was like, really? We're on a fucking flight, mate. I'm moving on.

Josh: No fights on the flight, please. I don't want to be— I know that we act like the Veronica sometimes, but let's not get kicked off this flight.

Tommy: But we had some good banter in here, and I felt his pain.

Josh: But your version of good banter is having a fight with a stranger?

Tommy: No, after he's like, oh yeah, man, it's bad. And then we're like, oh yeah, that's horri— and I felt— and we connected, man. We fucking connected.

Mason: Basil said happy Fat Fridays. Babies.

Josh: Thanks, Basil.

Mason: Derek said, I'm putting $20 on Josh to take out the testosterone test. Any takers?

Josh: So he wants someone to bet $20 on Tommy winning.

Tommy: Is that how it works?

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: I mean, I've never been involved in a betting, uh, betting ring.

Josh: Yeah, that's how it works. We got this, um, letter. Oh yeah, can you read it please?

Tommy: Yeah, I will.

Josh: So this is in our PO box. So we have a PO box, PO box. 400 Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. Interesting fact, we got a, um, you know how I was— isn't— no, Tommy wasn't here. We got a letter the other day, I opened it and I was like, I was like, oh, what's— what, what is this? There's another festival or something. It was called Me Marrow or something.

Mason: You were showing it to people.

Josh: Yeah, I was telling them, look at this. We had Kylie here. I was like, there's a film, like all these spam type thing, and They had all this wooden stuff in it. And then I went out to lunch and came back and I was reading it. I realised it was a different address, different name.

Tommy: It was someone's marathon.

Josh: Yeah. Someone had like, participated in a marathon and it was there.

Tommy: As in the Melbourne Marathon?

Josh: No, no, no, no.

Tommy: A couple of weeks ago.

Mason: It's called Melbourne Marathon Festival. Australia's biggest ever marathon.

Tommy: That's the Melbourne Marathon. What are you talking about? It happened just a couple of weeks ago. I never, I never knew. I knew so many runners in my life.

Josh: I don't think it was a—

Mason: Melbourne, Melbourne Marathon, historic 42nd marathon. It must be.

Tommy: It has to be. The—

Mason: has to be.

Tommy: Can you look it up?

Josh: So it was Olga. Olga was her name and you could look up her time.

Mason: Yeah, it really is the Melbourne Marathon. What did she—

Tommy: what's her time?

Mason: 28 minutes.

Josh: So that must have been a 4 hours?

Tommy: 3 hours and 28 minutes?

Josh: No, no, no, just 28 minutes.

Mason: No, it's 28 minutes, 36 seconds.

Tommy: Oh yeah, so it's whatever, 5K. 5K.

Josh: Have to be.

Tommy: 5K, yeah.

Josh: Okay, so read this letter.

Tommy: All right, so, hey Gronks, a few weeks ago I asked a question on your Insta storeys about if the Daily Talk Show was Survivor, like the TV show, who would win? You gave a diplomat— diplomatic answer um, listing strengths of each of you.

Josh: Just read it.

Tommy: But now you can prove it for reals with the card game I created called Kill Your Friends. It plays like an aggressive version of Uno— I love Uno— crossed with Survivor, and all the cards have graphic illustrations of different deaths. Some funny, some stupid, some provoking, uh, social satire. I hope you guys enjoy. I reckon you'll dig the competitiveness and how, um, ruthless it is. Congrats on the upcoming 500 show. It's been amazing to watch and listen to your progression. Can't wait to see where you go from here. From Lee, a proud Gronk Squad member. P.S. I got my money on Mr. 97 getting the win for the testosterone.

Josh: Thank you, Lee.

Tommy: I think, um, so we've got— like, he's putting in money.

Josh: So he's getting 20.

Tommy: Would you do 20? So we got, we got 20 over here with Derek. We got 20.

Josh: So what happens if, um, okay, yeah, so if, if 97 wins, he gets—

Tommy: no, but no, the other person. So Lee gets Derek's money, correct?

Mason: Yeah, I don't get any of it.

Tommy: You won't get it.

Josh: Yeah, perfect.

Tommy: Uh, all right, so this is it. I'm gonna open this.

Josh: Okay, great. So it says kill your friends.

Tommy: I mean, sometimes you feel like doing just that.

Josh: So it says, what's the age limitation on it?

Tommy: Um, players 3 to 6, 5 to 20 minutes per game.

Josh: 18+.

Tommy: 18+. Yeah, on the back here. Um, so I'm gonna open this up. I want to see these graphics. Oh, oh, the first card's a bloke named Andre who looks like he's just been messed up. And so look, we're not going to get into it, but yeah, I'm pumped to play this.

Josh: Read one, read one card.

Tommy: So I'll read one card. Death from above.

Josh: Right.

Tommy: And then it's that. So maybe that's a specific type of card. But then I'll go over here. Um, Erica. And then on the back She's, yeah, a bit dead. I don't know how to explain it, but I need to know the rules. If it's anything like Uno, I'm in. We, um, when Amy was pregnant—

Josh: thanks, Lee—

Tommy: we got so into Uno. We took, I think we took Uno cards away with us on our honeymoon. It is a nice thing to do, like, if you don't want to just— it was that and Candy Crush. Amy was pretty into Candy Crush at that time, but I feel like there's something nicer than just being on your phone on holidays.

Josh: Card games, yeah, great.

Tommy: Card games are great. I mean, my uncle, he plays bridge, so does my auntie. They go to a bridge club. And then I saw Bill Gates and Warren Buffett play bridge, and then I thought, oh, that's smart people, definitely.

Josh: I could get into chess.

Tommy: I've never played a game of chess. Checkers, checkers, which is just the easy, easy dumbass There's a red one, there's a white one. Let's jump. It's stupid.

Mason: Yeah. Did you have chess club at school?

Josh: Yeah, I was in it.

Mason: You were in it?

Josh: Yeah. Mr. Don was the chess club teacher. He passed away, but yeah.

Tommy: While you're at school?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: He must have been old.

Josh: Yeah, he was old. It was like a legend. They did like a Mr. Don award and all that sort of thing. And he was the like, astronomy, all that sort of stuff. Science teacher. But no, I would need to rehash how to do it. But it does seem— I love the idea of having a really nice chessboard with the pieces. I mean, it would be a nightmare with Bodhi. Just couldn't do it. I was already thinking about like the nice— I feel like potentially Bri and I in the future could be the type of people to have a house that is very hard for kids to come and visit.

Tommy: Yeah, it's the worst experience.

Josh: Maybe you have to keep him outside.

Tommy: It's the worst experience going. Like, my auntie has that house and she always has when I was young, and we went there and tore the fuck out of it.

Josh: Like, then, yeah, no, like, no standing on carpet.

Tommy: Yeah, just like, oh, it is something that I've really aspired to not be like in my, in my life. Like, I remember going to kids' houses. I don't know if you guys had this house or went to places like this. It was like not allowed to walk with shoes on in specific areas, like just super strict. And it always feels so uninviting, right? When everything's just like too, too, too good.

Josh: I think it's relaxing maybe for the people who are there.

Tommy: No, definitely, definitely.

Josh: Because it's like dialled in exactly what they want.

Tommy: Yeah, but it's not inviting to the outside. And so it's like, I think it's like for me how I felt with that. I was always like, I'd love to create an environment where people who come in immediately feel—

Josh: Well, my parents had like a rumpus room, and that was the area that you play pool. You could have shit all around or whatever, but then don't fucking trash the family room or the lounge room. So you have your designated area and that sort of backs onto the backyard.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: But yeah, no, I think chess isn't necessarily Conducive. Conducive to kiss.

Tommy: Um, Mr. 97, LA fact of the day.

Mason: LA fact of the day.

Tommy: Before we go away.

Josh: Sounds like you don't have one.

Mason: No, I've got one. It's right here. I just had to scroll through the doc.

Tommy: It's, um, 6 days, boys. 6 days till we'll be in the air. Less than 6 days.

Mason: The first, the first modern and truly accurate measurement of the speed of light was conducted between 1924 and 1926 at Mount Wilson by Albert Michelson. Who was America's first Nobel Prize winner in the science field.

Tommy: I've lost— I lost what he did. What did he do?

Josh: The light.

Mason: He was the first person to accurately measure the speed of light.

Tommy: Wow.

Mason: Yeah. And so that was done in LA at Mount Wilson Observatory or something.

Josh: How fast is the speed of light? Real fast. I'm going to guess if it's miles per second.

Mason: No, no, meters. Let's assume.

Josh: Yeah. What do you want?

Mason: Metres per second.

Josh: Metres per second.

Tommy: I reckon it's like 1,100 metres a second.

Josh: No, give me a sec. Yeah, maybe. So if it's like if you're on a plane and it sort of feels like it's faster than sound, not light. I'm going to say 6,000 metres.

Tommy: Oh, yeah, it's wild. Yeah.

Josh: 20,000 metres.

Tommy: Yeah. So if a plane can go 1,000 kilometres an hour, it would be like 100 and something thousand.

Mason: No, you gotta keep going. Really? Way more. 299,792,458 metres a second.

Josh: Because we're thinking of sound.

Mason: It sounds like Mach 1, right?

Josh: What does that mean?

Mason: It's 343 metres a second is the speed.

Josh: 343 meters.

Tommy: 343 metres a second. Yeah, it's fast as fuck, guys.

Josh: 100 kilometres an hour. Okay, yeah, this is where I'm going wrong. Okay, anyway, anyone else on the Instagram?

Mason: 97, uh, Pan Sam says if you don't want to use your status, Josh, give it to Tommy or Mr. 97 instead.

Tommy: So can you do that?

Josh: No.

Tommy: Oh, but Pan Sam, what are you saying? Are you saying that Josh could pass on his potential upgrade to one of the, the boys? You should do it, dude. Just give it a go, see if you can. If you can do it, great.

Josh: So battery, low battery.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Uh, what do we, what do we think in regards to, um, what is it worth in regards to an upgrade? So you just have to put a, a price, so it's like a bit of a bidding structure type of thing. So it's not like you just get it. Yeah, they say, hey, you have the option of a, a, um, an upgrade, put a price down.

Tommy: $400. If you could get it for $400, it'd be, yeah, it'd be worth it.

Josh: So what do you think?

Mason: So that for business Is it for business?

Tommy: I mean, it's worth way more than what— Yeah, that means your flight was $800 and you got business. Like, that's if you could get that.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Okay, 400 bucks in Singapore.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, do it. All right, so Harps just joined. Hello, boys. Loving kisses.

Tommy: Love you, love you, Harps. Hey, um, tomorrow we've got Egg Boy on the show, Will Connolly, who famously egged Fraser Anning. What an interesting existence he's had for the past 8 months since that's happened.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so he's in the studio.

Josh: We're talking to him about weekend banter, all of that stuff. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. On Tuesday, episode 500, we're recording it at AU79, which is in Abbotsford. Yeah, tickets are all sold out, but we're going to be— it's going to be 6:30 start. We're going to start the show at 7:30. So it'll be a late one. Episode 500. If you're listening or watching at home, It's going to be to the wire. I can maybe by 11 PM.

Mason: You can live stream it.

Josh: Oh yeah, we're gonna—

Tommy: are you fucking doing that?

Josh: Or who was it, Ella?

Mason: Grace, Grace, Grace asked if we could live stream it and Josh said yep. He emailed back saying yeah, yeah, we're live streaming.

Tommy: I think there's a high chance we won't be, but I think we could just do it on the FaceTime for her. Yeah, yeah, sure, FaceTime directly. Yeah, no one else. Okay, you guys organise that, that's fine.

Josh: I mean, it's easy, it's just 97's phone.

Tommy: Yeah, no, I know, I know. Then you get to plug in the audio and shit.

Josh: Or maybe she doesn't, she can just deal with—

Tommy: Yeah.

Mason: Okay.

Josh: Anyway, it's The Daily Talk Show. hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. If you like the show, leave us an Apple Podcast review. If you don't like the show, mate, stop listening. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow. Catch ya.