Release The Sounds With Jack Post & Radio Mike

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show episode 455.

Radio: It's Weekend Banter and of the Radio Today fame, we've got Jack Post and Radio Mike.

Jack: Hello, thank you for having us. What a pleasure it is to finally see in the flesh the great studio of The Daily Talk Show.

Radio: I've already seen it.

Tommy: I know, but that's why I said it's a great pleasure.

Radio: I don't know when you're talking on behalf of the band or talking just by yourself. So when you want to talk just for yourself, go, hi, this is Mike.

Tommy: This is a Mikey point.

Radio: And then when you're talking If you're talking for the band, obviously.

Jack: Yeah, I'll say this is a statement from the band, but if it's just for me, I say this is a statement just from me.

Josh: So you've got a band, Release the Sounds.

Jack: Yes.

Josh: Not to be confused with Release the Sound, which, which is not a band, which is just a saying. How much did domain names play a part in the name of the band? Yes.

Radio: Hi.

Jack: We—

Radio: you have to get a band name that you can get the .com for. And so we went through a few iterations of band names before we came across one that was available. And releasesounds.com is available and you can buy merch there. Look at this.

Tommy: Well, it's not available anymore because now we've got it.

Radio: Yeah, it's not available.

Tommy: Good point. It's not available.

Radio: Don't go and buy it. We should put that as one of the merch items, like t-shirt, t-shirt, jumper, and then for like $1,000. Domain name, $1 million. I really like that.

Radio: Mr. 97, can you just start typing in famous bands as domains and seeing if one of the big famous bands like Metallica, do they have .com?

Josh: Metallica, I'm sure.

Radio: You would think Metallica has a .com.

Josh: I'm sure someone's doing this. Taylor Swift, has she got a .com?

Radio: Mate, imagine you went to taylorswift.com and it was just like GoDaddy.

Radio: It's like, this site is available. You're like, geez, this would be good.

Radio: The reality is, does Hamish Blake own hamishblake.com?

Josh: He doesn't. No, I think actually— because I do. I literally— so do you remember there was that weird— there was a guy who bought all these domain names, and I have bought a lot of domain names in my life, and I remember I was like— it was 2013 when I was looking. I was like, I wonder if any of these have lapsed. Fifi Box, not lapsed. Hamish Blake, lapsed. I was like, bullshit. And so I type in, because I've had this happen before where I thought a .com was available, was available. You go through the whole thing and GoDaddy's like, oh no, it's, it's not. We tricked you. We tricked you. Literally, that's happened where I've like gotten very excited.

Radio: These other domains, exactly.

Josh: So anyway, I was like, okay, I'm gonna see if this works and I'm gonna fucking, I'll message Hamish and say, hey, let's transfer it across. Sure enough, it worked. And so I was like, hey, I've got your domain name. He's so fucking chill, he still hasn't done anything with it.

Radio: He did offer it to me.

Josh: I said, hey man, uh, I'll set you up with an account or whatever. He's like, oh, this is so good, that's so good. But he just has never—

Radio: well, he never owned it because somebody years and years ago wrote into the show and said, hey, go and look at hamishblake.com. Some guy who has the same name as you and rides a motorbike does a blog post about his motorbike at hamishblack.com. And so that must— he must have lapsed it.

Radio: Um, have we got radiomike.com?

Mason: So this is interesting, radiomike.com is taken because we were going to—

Tommy: I used to work on this show called The Luke and Lewis Show with Luke Kidjul and Lewis Spears, and they looked up radiomike.com. It's taken by some guy who works in radio production in like Sweden or something, and we were gonna do a storey arc on that show that was like, let's take radiomike.com from this guy. We were gonna call him, his number's on the site.

Jack: Never eventuated, probably because it was a bad idea.

Tommy: But I do eventually hope to own radiomic.com.

Radio: Have you contacted him?

Mason: No, I thought maybe I should, like, for my, my podcast, because he— it's not—

Jack: it's like a website built in like 1992.

Josh: It's always the way though, we always think that whoever has the domain name is some pathetic scumbag who's not using it to the full of their abilities.

Radio: If it is your name or unique name, as if you'd give it up. Why? You'd either have to have left that behind.

Tommy: He's not active.

Radio: This site has not been updated, but he's still paying $12 a year or whatever.

Tommy: He probably just forgot. He probably made millions in radio.

Radio: The bullshit thing is your first legal name is Radio.

Tommy: So that's the hard part, because, you know, often I'm not taken seriously because my first name is Radio.

Radio: Why can't we ever say your surname? I was literally today writing the liner notes for the CD, which will be available for the band. And I didn't know if I could write like lyrics by Jack Post and Michael—

Jack: What?

Radio: Can I say your surname?

Tommy: If you like.

Radio: Liberale, liberale.

Josh: We don't need it.

Jack: There is a storey behind this if you want me to tell it.

Josh: Yeah, we want to hear a story.

Radio: How long will it take? Because we only got an hour.

Tommy: 1 minute, 1 minute. Okay, so essentially I was looking at all like people in radio and what their names was like Tommy Jacket, Jack Post, um, Josh Jamston. And it's like, you know, I worked on the hot breakfast with like Eddie Maguire, Luke Darcy and Will Anderson and Hamish and Andy, and like, they all—

Mason: like, Hamish Blake, Andy Lee, they all have like these names that just have rings to them. And then it's like, oh, now it's time for the drive show on the radio with Michael Liberale.

Tommy: No ring.

Jack: But Radio Mike—

Mason: if my name is Radio Mike and I am Radio Mike, whereas my first name and surname just don't have that ring.

Josh: I think it's got a good ring for like an evening show.

Radio: Liberale.

Radio: Yeah.

Josh: Hi, it's Michael Liberale here for, uh, You're gonna be like Fifi, Feb and Byron, which is a Melbourne radio show.

Tommy: Radio Feb. Radio Byron. Originally it was going to be Sideshow Mike, but there's a guy called Sideshow Mike who works for our company as an audio producer, so I had to scrap that.

Radio: Side show.

Mason: Side show.

Josh: As in The Simpsons.

Tommy: Like Sideshow Bob.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: But someone's already got it and his name's Mike.

Josh: We actually were doing some work on Jack Post's Wikipedia page a while ago.

Mason: Yes.

Radio: Yes.

Jack: Which no longer exists as far as I know.

Radio: They took it down. And thank you for your help, Josh. It's okay.

Radio: I feel you, mate. I feel you.

Radio: Oh, you on Wiki for a while as well?

Radio: Mr97 set one up, got taken down.

Radio: So why do people want to take them down?

Mason: Because you're not notable.

Radio: No, okay, I'm not super notable. I'm not super notable. I'm a little bit notable, but why? It's just more information for the world to have. Why does somebody go around looking for the Tommy Jackets and Jack Posts of the world and go, they should come off, there should be less information in the world about them?

Radio: We looked into the username of the person that took mine down, and I made up lots lots of storeys around that.

Josh: What was their name?

Radio: I can't even remember, but we— it's not— no, but it was like, you— we saw how long they've been doing it for, 10 years or something, something ridiculous. Like, this person, I— you just immediately think some sort of dweeb. Just a dweeb.

Radio: That's exactly what I pictured. I had actually a good dweeb on my side working for me, and he contacted me through Instagram and said, I hear you trying to get a Wikipedia account. I can help you. I've done a lot of editing. He was the one who helped me get it there, and then he was the one who also warned me about the bad dweeb who was trying to take me down.

Josh: Oh, so there's a specific person?

Radio: Yeah, he's like, oh, this guy is launching, um, what do you call it? He's launching a defence against you, or like an attack against you to get you off. Um, just, just keep it in mind. And he then, he was giving me tips to how to combat the defence, but it's too hard, and this guy cared more than I did.

Radio: Legit hobby. It has to be. They don't get paid. They're just out to get people who aren't that famous.

Radio: Like, why is this guy so obsessed as a complete stranger with getting me off the internet?

Tommy: And now you redirect to the Christian O'Connell Show. You just redirect, you type in your name, it redirects. Well, first it comes up with the Steele poll, the Jack Post Steele poll.

Jack: It's so annoying.

Tommy: It says, did you mean Jack Post radio presenter?

Jack: And if you click that, it just goes to the Christian O'Connell Show.

Josh: Well, we did do a, um, citation or like we added a bit which was he's got a band, he started a band and we had your full name in there. And then we did see, I don't know if this was your doing, but there was a change to Radio Mike.

Jack: That was my doing.

Radio: Did you edit my Wikipedia page?

Tommy: Yeah.

Radio: You're probably the guy. No, I'm probably Simon646. I would want to be off.

Mason: I was your biggest supporter in the Wikipedia event of 2019.

Jack: I'd love to see it get back up, to be honest.

Tommy: #SaveJacksWikipedia.

Radio: Thank you.

Jack: But yeah, like I did change it, so I didn't know that was you, but that's cool. We've interacted like online several times. Crazy stuff.

Josh: The Simpsons. It's the, uh, Release the Sounds. Release the Hounds, obviously.

Radio: It's supposed to be like Release the Hounds. Yeah. We struggled so much to think of a band name.

Jack: It was literally the hardest thing.

Mason: Well, I didn't.

Tommy: I wanted to call the band Gyarados Jones.

Radio: You had a bad plan.

Tommy: Which I don't understand.

Radio: Bad plan.

Jack: Well, Gyarados is a big menacing dragon, like water dragon Pokémon from the Pokémon Nintendo franchise.

Tommy: And Jones is a common surname. How— I just find that hilarious.

Jack: Gyarados Jones.

Josh: How would you spell Gyarados?

Jack: Gyarados is G-Y-A-R-A-D-O-S. Gyarados Jones.

Radio: But I didn't want the band to do anything to do with Pokémon.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, but I just thought— anyway, clearly we made the right choice not calling the band that.

Radio: Yeah.

Tommy: And going with Release the Sounds.

Jack: But I don't think it was ever an intentional Simpsons reference, but it was just a little Easter egg.

Radio: But now we've got People have been messaging me saying, is the car on this logo which, um, you're wearing the jumper of, is it the Simpsons car? Because in the full colour album artwork, it is purple.

Tommy: It's Homer's car.

Jack: It's Homer's purple sedan.

Radio: But that was an accident as well. Yeah.

Radio: Who did the artwork?

Radio: Oh, this great artist called Kit Bennett, who you guys, everybody has to cheque out his Instagram page. He's amazing. He does this full-scale artwork on skate parks. Like Reservoir Skate Park, Northcote Skate Park. And then when Google Maps updates with the, the aerial view, you can zoom in and see like a full-size skeleton that takes up 3 basketball courts.

Radio: Okay, so it's on the ground. That's so cool.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so with The Simpsons, I feel like you both have a large obsession.

Tommy: Yeah, I love The Simpsons and I would say that it's a big comedic inspiration for me and the band. While Sirius does have comedic elements to it. Um, and I feel like it was inspired—

Mason: like, I feel like both of us, like, grew up watching—

Radio: like, a prepared, like, a rehearsed take.

Tommy: No, this is just—

Josh: have you rehearsed this whole thing?

Tommy: No, I have a few points in my mind.

Radio: Let me see your hand. They ask about The Simpsons.

Josh: It actually says, don't forget the S.

Tommy: Um, but like, I think, like, comedically, like, there's— there would definitely be influence from that.

Radio: Simpsons is my absolute favourite show of all time.

Josh: But what does that mean? I guess a comedic influence, like you say "d'oh" a lot, or like, what are you guys doing?

Mason: No, it's more like just—

Radio: You do "d'oh" a lot and I do Marge.

Tommy: Oh, Marge, help me!

Radio: And do you say "d'oh"?

Mason: D'oh!

Radio: So we're doing that all the time.

Tommy: Yeah, we actually do do that a lot.

Radio: Is there any songs in The Simpsons? I mean, I've watched it every night.

Radio: I had the album Songs in the Key of Springfield.

Tommy: See My Dust, Who Needs That Quickie Mart.

Radio: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: Monorail. Monorail.

Tommy: The one about the burlesque house. Um, who puts the— We Put the Spring in Springfield, the Stone Cutters song.

Jack: Lots of great songs.

Josh: What was the first song that you guys ever covered together?

Tommy: That's the theme song to the animated TV show CatDog from the '90s, which is a Nickelodeon show.

Radio: Yeah, Born in a Little World with the Little CatDog.

Tommy: Yeah, correct.

Radio: Mr. 97, cut in a bit of that clip here.

Josh: Absolutely not.

Tommy: No, so you can see it on our Instagram.

Mason: Um, but yeah, so I did this video on Instagram.

Tommy: This is how the band started, which is a good segue, sort of. Yeah, I did this.

Josh: Segues are only good if you don't mention them.

Tommy: I did this thing on Instagram which was like, I—

Jack: do you guys— are you familiar with the show CatDog?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack: So essentially it's a cat and a dog, they're joined in the middle.

Radio: Yeah, weird little unit.

Mason: Yeah, I did this, I did this thing where I talked about how I have—

Jack: I had these two friends who are identical twins and they just don't get along, and they're, they're also Siamese. Then I'm like, I wrote a song about him.

Tommy: I played the CatDog song. That was the joke.

Jack: Everyone found it quite funny.

Tommy: And then Jack goes, we should cover it together. Or maybe I said that. I don't recall that detail. It doesn't matter.

Josh: I like that he thinks— Radio Today, we need to make sure that this quote is right. What do you want it to say?

Tommy: Radio Mike convinced Jack Post to start band.

Mason: Okay.

Tommy: Jack actually convinced me to do the band.

Josh: Is that you just being humble?

Radio: No, who's the cat and who's the dog?

Tommy: Yeah, all right, I think I'm cat, you'd be dog because you're a bit of a larrikin.

Radio: No, dog was the stupid one.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, that's what I mean. Oh my God, do not bridge that.

Radio: And so you had it—

Josh: I mean, going from doing one cover together to saying Let's Start a Band. I like it from the nostalgic point of view of like being a kid. Everyone wants to be in a band.

Radio: Yeah.

Radio: I mean, I was in a band in high school, but I never got to the point of making an album, actually recording songs.

Radio: What was your— You've flown on a jet around—

Radio: Oh, I had the Eagles. I had Cool Boys and the Frontman, the band with Hamish and Andy. But again, we never released an album. This is the first album I've ever released.

Jack: Are you allowed to swear on this show?

Josh: Yeah, you can.

Tommy: What was the name of your political-themed song in your high school band?

Radio: So I, in year 10, I was in a band called Last Chance, and we did have a song called Fuck You Bush about George Bush.

Radio: Yeah, which one?

Radio: The 2000s president.

Josh: Yeah.

Radio: Yeah.

Josh: W. Was that inspired by like Green Day?

Radio: I feel like would have— I didn't write the song. Our drummer wrote the song. I did sing on it.

Josh: Angry drummer.

Radio: Fuck You Bush. He's out.

Josh: So why did you feel like— there's a lot of American influence as well, isn't there? Like, yeah.

Radio: We had no right to write a song about getting George Bush kicked out of the White House.

Tommy: Why did you feel like a band from the inner city suburbs of Melbourne could write, should write a song about the President of the United States?

Jack: These guys are a year and a half, a little bit later than us.

Radio: You're a little bit younger. You don't remember the years of George W. Bush and what we all grew up through. You need to go.

Mason: Who was Prime Minister?

Tommy: Who was Prime Minister at this point? Who was the Prime Minister? Was it a bit of a joke? It must have been. Why not? A song called F U Howl.

Josh: That sounds a bit aggressive.

Tommy: Did you want Ryan to hear it?

Josh: There's a good point to that. And so you've started, you did this song and then one of you, we don't know who it was.

Tommy: We may never know.

Josh: Said we should start a band.

Tommy: No, it was you. Yeah, it was your idea.

Radio: I did.

Tommy: I had nothing to do with it.

Josh: Okay. Yeah.

Radio: He helped.

Tommy: I agreed to do it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then we sort of— it was on hold for a while.

Radio: It took ages.

Jack: This—

Radio: we're actually going up a year and a half last year. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, um, how was it? I mean, this is boring, but we went to a guy called Yuri. Yuri produced our album. Shout out to Yuri if he's listening or watching. He's worked on shows such as a lot of Sean McCarloff shows, a lot of famous Aussie TV shows.

Jack: He worked on like Big Bite, which was that comedy show with Chris Lilley.

Radio: He's doing Mad as Hell at the moment.

Radio: And he found us this episode through Radio Today. So g'day, Yuri.

Radio: How are you, mate?

Josh: Can you bring your mic a little bit closer to you, Jack, by the way?

Radio: Sorry, sorry.

Josh: You can, um, but Mr.

Radio: 97, can you boost my volume a little?

Mason: But before—

Josh: Do you have his mic up? It seems quieter than normal.

Radio: I think I made a joke before we started to say, Mr. 97, can you put some reverb on my mic?

Josh: Did you break it when you— Can you just tap it?

Radio: Yeah, okay, it's working as long as it's on.

Radio: Okay, I can speak up if you like, Joshie.

Josh: But no, just good little— if you go nice and close, it'll sound great. Maybe that storey I was telling about Yuri's boring.

Radio: And Mr. 97 was just—

Tommy: before we went to Yuri, before we went to Yuri, we write— we wrote songs.

Jack: So yeah, so I went to Japan and I wrote a song in Japan which will be the second single.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: And I sent a text to Jack.

Radio: It's coming out next Friday, coming out next week.

Jack: That's the second single. It's called The Instagram Song, Liked My Post. And I was walking through the streets of Tokyo and I just realized—

Tommy: and, and this is the social commentary of the song—

Jack: everyone's on, on their phones all the time.

Mason: No one's paying attention anymore.

Radio: More so there than Australia?

Tommy: No, less so here. But my eyes were opened to how they lived differently to us, right? They were all aware of what was going on.

Radio: To an extent, they were on their phones more. The Japanese— no, Australians—

Mason: I was on my phone and I was like, I'm in Japan, why am I on my phone right now?

Radio: Okay, right, don't tell me any of this.

Mason: Oh well, that was— I was gonna do it on the commentary of the album that I think we can do the commentary now.

Radio: You can just take this bite and put it on.

Tommy: Yeah, anyway, I wrote that song. Jack wrote Attached to String and this other song called the Doctor Song, which never made it to— which never really made it to the production. And we had 3 songs.

Radio: Why did you try and kill that song?

Jack: Oh, it wasn't that good a song.

Josh: What was it about?

Tommy: It was quite—

Radio: If we're talking about not good songs, Mike wrote a song about nostalgia and it sucked. It sucked really bad.

Radio: Do you tell him it sucks?

Tommy: Yeah, we both agreed that it sucked when we tried to write a chorus together and like, cut some of the audio, Mr.

Jack: Nasi Lemak.

Radio: Too much work. Mike, do you actually— Radio Mike, sorry.

Tommy: No, whatever, man.

Radio: Do you actually— we can put radio in there. You can say Michael L. Michael L. Um, do you actually write something and present it to Jack and just fingers crossed saying, hope this, hope this idiot doesn't say anything?

Radio: I'm gonna pull this closer to me. Is that better?

Jack: I wrote that song and I sent, like, like I said, I sent it as a text, the lyrics as a text, because like, Jack—

Josh: iMessage?

Jack: Uh, WhatsApp, because I was over— uh, well, it wouldn't matter, but I didn't have an iPhone at this point, which is a good thing for the, like, fans of the band to know because they can just, yeah, track the history of the band.

Radio: At what point did Mike get iPhone.

Tommy: Yeah, it was January this year that now we can test it.

Radio: What were you on?

Tommy: I was on a Samsung Galaxy S8. Yeah.

Josh: Um, we're using a stylus. Do they have stylus or no?

Jack: No, I was just using my fingers.

Tommy: And, um, very skinny.

Radio: Oh my God, it looks like a stylus.

Mason: And then I said to Jack, hey, this is the song. Like, the lyrics were like prototype lyrics, and I'm like, this is what it should sound like.

Tommy: I want it to sound like a pop punk kind of—

Jack: the, the song I would compare it to most when I was writing it was, um, the song Gives You Hell by All American Rejects, Mr. 97, um, and, uh, which has this big breakdown moment where it's like, when I see your face and I give you hell, and everyone's clapping, right? You, when you hear the song, you might see that.

Tommy: And then Jack kind of wrote the music to it, and, uh, lyrics is kind of the easy part.

Josh: We can all write lyrics, they're just words.

Radio: The music is really what makes a band, and, and I write the music to that song.

Josh: Yeah.

Radio: But I creatively consulted on the song, which is probably more important than both of those things.

Jack: I would say I was the chief creative consultant on the album.

Tommy: No, no, most of the creative decisions of the band were mine.

Radio: Did you genuinely have blowups?

Mason: No, it was a pretty smooth process. Like, yeah, we've had a few disagreements on the songs where, like, just little ones, and we kind of just negotiate That?

Tommy: Yeah. We were doing this.

Radio: But even editing the video clip which came out today, it came out yesterday.

Tommy: Well, when did it come out, Jack?

Radio: The puppet song that we did yesterday attached to the stream. We couldn't agree on most of the edits for that.

Tommy: Oh, not most. Like there was a few that we were like, oh, I like it better like that. I referred to some of the cuts Jack wanted to make as year 10 media class cuts.

Radio: You guys as video creators, you would know.

Radio: Curtains opening.

Radio: How long was the fade? You know those kind of cuts you do where it's this, it's from the same camera shot, so the angle doesn't change, but it just skips forward in time?

Josh: Yeah, like a jump cut.

Radio: Do you think that's an unprofessional cut, or do you think it's stylistic?

Radio: It has to make sense and feel fine.

Radio: Of course it makes sense.

Radio: Does it feel fine? Like when you're watching it, it's not jarring?

Radio: To me, it added pace to the video clip to cut like that.

Jack: Yeah, no, it ended up being really good, and we're really happy with it.

Radio: But you called it a year 10—

Tommy: I was under the impression that what you wanted was something a year 10 student student would do, but now I know that it's not, and I apologise to any year 10s that use that kind of regularly. But musically speaking, I think we were both pretty on the same page the whole time. Like, every song just— it was really easy to write and record. Like, we, you know, one of us would come with a concept and then we'd sort of finish writing it together, and then in the studio we'd like work on the songs together and creatively just like literally negotiate with each other.

Josh: Have you spoken about what the plan is now? Are you going to be doing a small tour?

Radio: Great question. That is the elephant in the room, is are we going to play live or not? Because, well, we're going to play live for the first time on your show today. We've never done it before. We don't really know how to play with like a drummer and stuff.

Mason: A lot of the— some of the songs, there's only 8 songs on the album.

Tommy: Yeah, I reckon 3 of them couldn't be live just based— you, when you hear the album, you'll know why because they're just not they're not traditional songs necessarily.

Radio: Auto-tune.

Radio: We could do— I think we could.

Josh: The whole album is auto-tuned.

Jack: It's a 45-minute track, it's just DJ set.

Radio: It's ambient music. Yeah, we could play, I think, all the songs acoustically, but on the album they've got drums and bass and everything.

Tommy: Yeah, I reckon.

Radio: But we don't even know, like, what do you want out of it?

Josh: What do you, what do you guys think you actually want?

Radio: I think the part that's fun has been this last 2 weeks, like, yeah, putting out the artwork, putting out the song, putting out the album in a couple of weeks. Like, this is the fun part. Touring, I don't know.

Radio: Like, you got to—

Radio: I mean, you've done it.

Tommy: I mean, there's demand.

Jack: They'll be demand.

Radio: They'll be demand.

Tommy: Can't just promise something.

Josh: What does it mean? Like doing this project, what does success look like? What do you want it to be?

Mason: I think what we've already done is like awesome. Like, I'm really I'm actually—

Jack: for a while it didn't even look like we were going to get here.

Josh: So this is your final appearance?

Mason: No!

Tommy: This is it.

Radio: Music today.

Radio: Goodbye, chat.

Radio: Sorry, get to the studio today.

Tommy: Oh no, get to the release of the album and talk about it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, for a while, like, it was pretty static.

Jack: We had our first meeting with our music video guy Angus, who's a mate of mine, um, like 4 months ago. And we're like, all right, we're gonna start the music videos soon.

Mason: 3 months later we hadn't started them yet.

Radio: Yeah, we had long periods during this journey where we didn't do anything for the band, and then we have weeks like this where, I mean, I can't stop thinking about the band and making the, the CD artwork and writing the liner notes and putting out Instagram videos about the band.

Radio: One's got a full-time job as well, so it can fall to full-time.

Josh: A little bit rich.

Tommy: I definitely don't have a full-time job.

Radio: I don't even know what my job You should really be doing some more heavy lifting in the band.

Mason: I'm like the chief marketer. I'm marketing heaps.

Radio: Oh, you did one Q&A on Instagram. Come on.

Radio: Do you think a chief marketer would actually use the words 'I'm marketing heaps'?

Tommy: In this band, yes.

Radio: I'm doing— I'm, I'm at the top of the band, like decision-making, creative control, and I'm right at the bottom. I'm driving back. There's a coffin that we're using as a prop in the next video which gets released next week, I have to drive the coffin back to Spotswood today.

Tommy: Who ordered the coffin and paid for it?

Radio: We literally don't have to get up from the chair.

Radio: What's the coffin? Where'd you get it from? Coffin joint?

Mason: You know, no, uh, the prop store.

Jack: Okay, in our second single there is a scene that involves a coffin in the music.

Radio: Someone in it? Someone get in it?

Tommy: No, you can't say that.

Radio: This coffin has the ability for someone to get in, but we did not use it Well, I didn't want to ruin that.

Radio: Now people know, so no one gets in the coffin.

Tommy: No one gets in the coffin.

Radio: No one's gonna watch the video going, is someone gonna come out?

Tommy: In the shooting of the video, no one was in the coffin, but in the context of the video, someone—

Josh: oh, you're meant to be in the coffin.

Radio: Oh, so you lied.

Radio: Mike's grandma in the— am I giving away too much? Well, Mike's grandma is meant to be in the coffin.

Tommy: No, I don't think in the video I'm playing myself. I think I'm playing someone else because the grandma photo we use wasn't my grandma.

Radio: Yeah, right.

Jack: So I think I'm playing a different version of me, kind of like how Jerry Seinfeld played himself in his show.

Tommy: I'm playing Mike, but not, not me.

Jack: I'm playing a Mike in the video.

Josh: So was that— when did you actually work that out? Was it when you—

Tommy: I've thought a lot about the backstory of a lot of the characters in the songs.

Radio: Yeah, yeah.

Mason: There's a lot of like, you know, a lot of—

Radio: you have a full-time job.

Mason: A lot of these songs are like narrative-based.

Tommy: Based, would you agree?

Jack: Yeah, like, it sort of starts with a funny concept.

Tommy: For example, there's a song about—

Mason: can we talk about this? There's a song about, uh, when you—

Jack: the phenomenon of forgetting to wear a belt and your jeans are kind of all day, they're slowly just kind of falling down. You're constantly— you know that, right?

Radio: Right now. Yeah, right now.

Josh: Are you wearing Little Mix undies? They're just mixed.

Radio: I'd buy Little Mix undies if I could.

Mason: And that song just started. That's actually an interesting one.

Tommy: I had a dream where Jack wrote a song called Pants Up.

Josh: One of Tommy's big rules for dreams are interesting.

Radio: So you can't talk about dreams on this show.

Tommy: Okay.

Radio: Well, I just say, so you had a thought.

Tommy: I had a thought and you were sleeping. And then that turned into a song that we just developed a narrative around that.

Radio: I like the action taken after the dream. It's usually when people are trying to explain something they've forgotten.

Josh: So you've turned it into a song, which is good.

Jack: Yeah.

Radio: So if you want to talk to me about your dream, make a song. Yeah, at least do what Radio Mike did.

Mason: I guess like most of the songs, we turned a thought into a song.

Tommy: All the songs started as thoughts in our heads and then we turned them into music.

Josh: Isn't that how all songs work?

Jack: Well, no, not necessarily.

Radio: Not necessarily. Not cover songs, Josh.

Jack: I think like, I think Mozart was just kind of like, and he's like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah.

Radio: And then he's like, I never would have thought of that.

Tommy: So you didn't think of it?

Radio: Who's someone— what's the a genre or someone who's doing the similar style music to what you guys are?

Tommy: No one's doing what we're doing.

Radio: But if you were to say—

Radio: no, it's like a bit punk-rocky, I guess.

Radio: Jack Black, is he—

Mason: yeah, I'd say Tenacious. The first song on the album is—

Tommy: I would say sounds a lot like Tenacious.

Radio: Not the first single, which we were not—

Jack: the first single, the first song, which is—

Josh: work out what the singles in this album— it's all great questions.

Radio: It's bizarre. Post Malone released an album this week And I listened to it. I was like, I wonder if there's any good tracks on this. It was like 4 that had been released months and months and months ago.

Tommy: Like, wow. Hype up the album.

Radio: Yeah, there's a bunch that have been released. And it's like, why? Why do you do that?

Radio: Well, I guess because people don't need albums anymore because everyone streams. You don't really need to release a whole album at once. You could just do single after single after single.

Jack: Yeah. Peking Duck have never released an album. All their songs are just singles.

Radio: And we have, we're better than Pink Floyd.

Tommy: Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I didn't want to say it.

Josh: So what's it, uh, people talk about LPs or what is it? LP? No. Yeah, there's EPs. EPs.

Radio: LP is long play.

Jack: LP is a long play, extended play.

Josh: Okay. And so EP, I feel like, uh, I managed a band once, two bands. One of them, uh, was, uh, Feed Your Monkey, which is my brother's old band.

Radio: Yeah.

Josh: And they did an EP Why would they have done an EP? I know I should have known this, being the manager.

Jack: EPs have less songs. Like, they're not short enough to be a single, but they're not long enough to be an album.

Tommy: I mean, realistically, I feel like our album—

Radio: we're only got 8 songs plus the bonus track of Catdog.

Josh: Are there any albums, uh, that do have just 8 songs?

Radio: Kanye West, he's released— there was one that wasn't that long.

Radio: Mr. 97, can you pull up all bands that have done 8-song albums?

Radio: Yep, yep, yep.

Josh: That's actually something you could do.

Radio: But then you get someone like Drake releasing 25. So yeah, it's crazy how many.

Radio: Yeah, Josh, I'm interested to know what things you did manage when you, um, managed Feed Your Monkey.

Radio: Managing requires actually getting on the phone. Look guys, I've got this great band.

Josh: Well, so the other thing too is I also managed a band called My Own Enemy, which was a screamo band.

Radio: I think I've heard of them.

Tommy: Smash your fucking face!

Josh: Yeah, but, um, I think they mainly just wanted free filming, and so they said Josh, you're the manager. It's like, but we need the manager to be there at every event filming. Managing the filming.

Radio: Yeah, but also manage the editing.

Jack: Yeah.

Josh: Feed Your Monkey, I just helped with connect, like getting their website sorted.

Radio: You were the web guy?

Josh: Yeah, I was the web guy. I was a webmaster. Yeah. But I mean, do you guys have a manager?

Mason: Probably me.

Radio: She's marketing officer and manager.

Josh: This is the hard thing about being like two people. Bad for people who are obsessed with hierarchy, doesn't give you much.

Mason: Like, we don't have a manager.

Tommy: Oh, your manager, your talent manager, because Jack's radio talent. Yeah, she's been looking at media or radio in your name.

Radio: But yeah, Cathy helped us.

Tommy: I mean, Cathy helped manage a bit of it, like particularly like the scheduling of what we were doing, which we didn't keep to at all. I think the album was supposed to come out 12 months ago, um, and then Yuri, like, I guess, manage the production of the songs, and then Angus is managing the video shoots, but we don't have like a central manager.

Radio: We would probably be co-managers.

Radio: So this is— there's been a bunch of bands in history that have been absolutely rorted when they've become successful because they probably haven't sorted their shit out.

Tommy: Hasn't happened to us.

Radio: See how like, if in the future there's so much money there it can go fucking pear-shaped.

Radio: Yeah, do you want to—

Radio: so we'll manage.

Radio: I guess we're just splitting everything 50/50.

Radio: Oh my God, we're in a business meeting!

Josh: But he paid for the coffin.

Radio: That's true, but that offsets some other costs. Yeah, I paid for the session drummer.

Tommy: We're currently in a lot of debt. We're currently in a lot of debt.

Jack: We've made no—

Josh: so what have been the costs?

Tommy: Uh, the music videos The drummer who—

Radio: Merch Samples.

Tommy: Merch Samples.

Josh: How good is it getting? I got so pumped with the difference between replicated and duplicated. Like when my brother—

Radio: Literally looked at that this morning, Josh. Literally this morning.

Josh: So replication being the actual stamping, like proper legit CDs versus—

Radio: People still use them? People still buy CDs?

Josh: Yeah.

Radio: But these are both two different types of CDs. Yeah. And so duplication is just like burning a CD like you would at home using a laser.

Josh: And so replication is the one that you really want. But the great thing is it's like the technology has— I remember in 2009 or 2008, it just becomes so affordable now to replicate.

Radio: Do you think— how many CDs do you think we should order?

Radio: 1,000?

Radio: No, way too many. Can people don't use 250? I see. I was going to go 50.

Mason: I was going to say 100.

Radio: All right.

Josh: So if it's good, if it's good artwork and, uh, people might use it just as a souvenir. Is it a sleeve?

Radio: It's not a sleeve, but it's one of the cardboard— nice cardboard opening.

Radio: How much are they per unit?

Josh: Is it what they're selling them for, or what they can get them for?

Radio: Then we're really talking.

Radio: Yeah, uh, $7.05 per unit to buy—

Radio: for me to buy, or you to buy?

Radio: That's for me.

Radio: Oh God, you get 1,000, then it's $7,500.

Josh: No, but then it would go down to $20.

Radio: Is that high?

Radio: It sounds high per unit, but I did not buy for something.

Radio: No, I want to actually go for the like glossy finish and stuff.

Mason: You sell it for $20.

Josh: Where are you getting it done?

Radio: Do we say that kind of stuff?

Josh: Is it— I reckon it's probably the place that I looked at years ago. Extreme Technologies.

Radio: This one is called Implant Media. It's in Brunswick.

Josh: Okay.

Radio: It's near my house. So that I'd always ask.

Radio: I keep seeing these things are getting higher in prices as it goes out.

Josh: Well, you can get—

Radio: you can actually get a lot cheaper version, but then you don't get like— for some reason I like the gloss and stuff.

Josh: What about a record— like records?

Radio: Should we do some vinyls?

Josh: Vinyls.

Mason: Maybe.

Tommy: I think we do signed copies. Me and you sign them. Yeah, that's nice. And we send them out.

Mason: Would you guys want one of those?

Radio: As in a vinyl? I'm literally like—

Jack: Signed vinyls?

Tommy: Yeah. Signed posters?

Radio: I'm making the artwork for the CD and stuff at the moment. Should I leave a little gap on the album where we can put our signature? Even a little blank box.

Josh: Blank box is probably obnoxious.

Tommy: Too much.

Radio: Too much.

Tommy: Usually you just sign the COVID Okay, yeah, sure.

Radio: Lucy97, any updates for us? We've asked you a few things today.

Tommy: Uh, yeah, so those albums, a few of the other people, Led Zeppelin, Meatloaf.

Mason: I feel like it's less to do with tracks.

Tommy: Bruce Springsteen.

Jack: I feel like it's less to do with the amount of tracks and more like length of album.

Radio: Yeah, but Meatloaf makes like 10-minute songs, whereas our album together is probably about 10 minutes.

Tommy: So our album is like 29 minutes.

Radio: No, look it up.

Tommy: Come in.

Mason: I do, because I run Mr. 97 Minutes YouTube.

Radio: Mr. 97 Minutes, you look up how long our album runs for, thanks.

Radio: Could you find that? Is that anywhere?

Jack: I mean, one of the songs is out, so So you can use that and then like extrapolate the data.

Josh: I think I got 1,000 CDs for Feed Your Monkey, but I got them imported from Singapore. They got them like the first time ever doing something and just boxes and boxes from DHL. The shipping costs the same price as the actual CDs.

Radio: Do you remember how much?

Josh: No, I would have the email.

Radio: How many Feed Your Monkey CDs are still sitting in your mum and dad's house?

Josh: We just got very sort of. Just handing them out, liberal type, liberal with the hand in the air. Business card, it's literally just like some stickers. We've already gone through our stickers.

Radio: Which is annoying because you then realise they're 50 cents each.

Josh: So we're just handing out 50 cents each.

Radio: I mean, it's all marketing for the show, right?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh well, as the chief marketing manager— did I say officer or manager? Chief marketing manager, I would say that's a great idea.

Josh: Have you guys got stickers?

Radio: No, they're on the way.

Tommy: That's another cost.

Josh: Yeah, wait, you didn't even know the marketing— The chief marketing guy doesn't even know. Well, so what's the— how many different designs did you actually get done? How many different versions of artwork?

Radio: So you've got the coloured version, just the one, and then I, I desaturated the colours myself.

Josh: Oh really? Yeah, he gave us— artist approved.

Radio: He gave us the Photoshop file. We didn't actually ask him if it's okay to put a white and black and white version. I'd be furious because he might— we don't know if he's particular about colour.

Tommy: But now you've said it on this podcast.

Radio: I'm sorry.

Radio: I love this Beavis and Butt-Head vibes from you, Jack. I love it.

Radio: Yeah, you know what, that's the most common thing people are writing on Instagram to me.

Jack: But we, um, for this artwork, we actually did this. Like, we sat on a car like this.

Josh: Really?

Radio: That shitty car?

Mason: Have we got the photo? Not this car.

Radio: I got the photo.

Mason: It was like, put it on.

Josh: You've got a subreddit?

Radio: No, we want to get one.

Jack: We want to get a subreddit. Someone start it. Reddit.com. You've got a subreddit? Yeah, I'm on it. I subscribed. I always upvote you.

Radio: Oh, I want to get on it. I'll get on your subreddit. Do you have a lot of—

Josh: We get nothing. Ah, there was a time where I was like, you know what, fuck Instagram, fuck Facebook, we're just going to do subreddit. And it was probably 50 episodes where every episode I'm like, make sure you sign up to our subreddit. We literally got 23— It fluctuates between 23 and 27.

Radio: Yeah, we actually got more trolling on that subreddit from people saying, you guys don't update this subreddit. But the thing about subreddits are they're usually— it's like nicknames, other than if you give yourself the nickname Radio Mike, Mr. 97. They work best when someone else creates them. So there's all these randos creating—

Radio: we would create it under a fake account, I imagine, and pretend we're not us. Well, and post on there as if we're not us. Yeah, so Mike always posts on Hamish Andy's Reddit as a normal person, even though he's a producer. Producer of the show.

Jack: Yeah.

Josh: And are you pushing your own agenda?

Jack: I always answer people's questions like about the show, like, don't ask how I know this, but like, like, I don't reveal anything.

Tommy: I don't reveal anything.

Jack: But yeah, like, I, I have done that.

Radio: But Mike, one— Mike's got his own podcast, which you should plug.

Jack: He's definitely—

Josh: you, you are the one that emails Radio Today with leaks.

Radio: Mike's got his own podcast, and he went on to the Hamish and Andy subreddit as a as a regular person and said, hey guys, I just discovered that Mike, who's sometimes mentioned on Hamish and Andy's podcast, he's got his own podcast. That always seems cool to me.

Tommy: That wasn't me, that was someone else.

Jack: It was not me.

Radio: Did it work?

Mason: I, I only posted the one you came on as me.

Tommy: I'm like, hey guys, I'm Mike, I work on the show, thought you guys might be interested in hearing from Jack.

Jack: And you know what, someone commented saying they loved it, so I was right.

Radio: All right, one, one, one listen's a win.

Tommy: Yeah, one comment's a win.

Radio: This is why Mark and I want a subreddit for the band, because during this whole journey we've put in a lot of minor details that nobody would really notice, so we want our hardcore fans to notice them.

Josh: But the only problem is this is the last day of the band.

Mason: But like, we've done stuff like—

Jack: people don't know this, but we've taken photos like in a room where behind us on a whiteboard the entire track listing to the album was just written, and I'm like, oh, this is one for the hardcore fans. They'll see it on the board. I'll discuss it on the subreddit.

Mason: Like, oh, this is Is it a red herring?

Radio: Did they do it by mistake? What is this purposeful?

Radio: I can't remember how to work out the end of a CD. There was like an extra track, bonus track. Yeah, how'd that end? But you had to get to it. How'd you get to it?

Radio: No, sometimes a track would play. It's on Dookie, Green Day.

Tommy: It was either attached to one track, so there'd be silence.

Radio: It would be 8 minutes of silence and then it would start playing.

Tommy: But some bands did do this thing where you could put a bonus track on like track 0, so you actually have to press back on track 1 and it would go to track 0.

Radio: I remember hitting that.

Radio: I remember doing shit like that.

Radio: That's where we've got a subreddit. We will do heaps of little Easter eggs like this and people can really enjoy it.

Josh: The biggest Easter egg is that you need a CD player in 2019, isn't it?

Tommy: Yeah.

Radio: Um, my car doesn't even have one. I love it. Yeah, I mean, I'd love— um, who did this? Uh, Shawn Mendes released a new album with the whole tape sent over, but so did, um, Gemma Watts posted a thing, a beauty brand or a brand, sent her a record and then she's like, oh, I've got this record, but how am I going to play it? Then removes the thing and there's a record player that they sent through. So it probably cost a grand.

Radio: There's a record player in here.

Radio: But they said both. I mean, that's, that's where it becomes, as, as a marketing expert, yeah, Mike, you totally know the unit price on, uh, sending everybody a record player.

Tommy: I reckon it'd be $50.

Jack: No.

Radio: Yeah, I reckon you could get $35. I reckon you can probably get it, yeah, $35 to $50 from China.

Radio: No, we want everything Australian made. The CDs will be Australian made.

Radio: $150.

Radio: Oh, sorry, the stickers are coming from overseas.

Josh: Yeah, where are you getting the stickers from?

Radio: I don't know, but you can tell that they're not Australian made. They're going to come from somewhere else.

Josh: What do you mean you don't know?

Radio: Well, it just says it's—

Josh: what's the domain name? Where did you buy them? Sticker Mule. Oh, Sticker Mule. Yeah, I get a lot of it.

Jack: Do you want to find out where that's from?

Radio: Yeah, and Oz—

Josh: just to stick in the—

Radio: Oz Sticker Printing is not Australian. Really?

Josh: Yeah, no, that's deceitful. Yeah, but they're very quick.

Radio: Just this morning someone contacted me on Instagram from Perth. He runs a sign shop and he said he'll make us some stickers for free, mate.

Mason: Oh, well, why didn't you go with him?

Radio: Well, I already ordered the Stickerview ones.

Jack: Ah, well, that's—

Radio: but we can get— we can—

Tommy: we can get different ones.

Josh: He could do both. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Radio: I mean, sorry, he can't do both.

Tommy: This is how our band meetings go.

Radio: We can't have both.

Josh: Yeah. The, um, on the CD thing, uh, The Offspring, they were one of my favourite bands growing up.

Radio: As we came in today, we were listening to them.

Radio: Yeah, first, uh, concert I ever went to, Offspring. Really sick. And I had the album, and then I have a shirt signed by The Offspring.

Josh: Do you remember the album Welcome to Americana?

Radio: Yes.

Jack: That had Pretty Fly for a White Guy.

Josh: Yeah. But I, I saw Radio Mike, you did a video with Luke Kidjell where you went through a bunch of songs.

Jack: Yeah.

Josh: I don't think I saw The Offspring being mentioned.

Jack: I thought after that, damn, we forgot The Offspring. Yeah, but I love The Offspring.

Josh: Because you talk about Blink-182, Sum 41.

Jack: Yeah.

Josh: All of these great bands. Simple Plan even got a mention.

Jack: Can I say that the song Original Prankster by The Offspring is one of my favourite songs of all time?

Josh: But you said that for every track that you played.

Radio: You're like, actually, this is my favourite song.

Jack: But this one is. It's such a good song.

Josh: That's why you say that.

Jack: Mr. 97, put it underneath.

Tommy: Layer it underneath the instrumental.

Jack: But that was great.

Josh: So how— what were you listening to when you're doing an album? How long does it take? First of all, the actual like recording time. How much studio time?

Tommy: 6 months.

Radio: Yeah, but how much— like we were going in sometimes once every fortnight. So yeah, you know, how many sessions, days did we do?

Josh: Maybe 12, 15.

Radio: Yeah.

Josh: So much work.

Radio: Work.

Radio: Yeah, I mean, it's real.

Radio: It's a real— it's a full-time job.

Josh: It is.

Tommy: 15 days a year, it's tough. It's really tough.

Radio: But when you hear it, like, it sounds sort of real. I mean, you've heard the first single. Did it sound real to you, or did it sound like—

Josh: yeah, it sounds like a legitimate— yeah, song.

Radio: I mean, like, the quality of my singing is not— it's not 100%, but the song sounds real.

Radio: I, um, was watching Travis Scott's documentary.

Radio: I was hoping one of you guys were gonna go like, ah, no, the singing's cool.

Josh: It doesn't have to be perfect. It's another genre.

Radio: When they're mixing the album, I'm a dick, I'm a dick.

Josh: Like, it's all like, it's all got a certain vibe to it.

Radio: They go down with the mixed track and they play it in the car and listen to it there to hear how it sounds.

Radio: Yeah, yeah, we did.

Radio: Is that what you did?

Radio: A lot of that, played it through the car, you played it through your Bluetooth, remember?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, no, we did do that. Um, I used to listen at the gym like in my headphones and like trying to pick up. No, yes, I'm listening to my own album while running on the treadmill.

Radio: No, you want people watching this show to know you go to the gym.

Tommy: No, I haven't been in months.

Jack: Have not been in months.

Josh: But are you negging now?

Mason: Um, but yeah, we, we, yeah, we'd listen to the songs and we'd like sometimes the mix—

Josh: Do you still have a gym membership?

Jack: Yes, I pay for it every fortnight, $23, $24.

Josh: What place?

Jack: Which, uh, Jets Gym in Hawthorn.

Josh: How long's the contract?

Jack: There's no contract. I could cancel anytime.

Tommy: I just haven't done it.

Jack: I don't want to cancel.

Tommy: I want to pay for the gym so I can go. I just haven't been.

Josh: He's—

Radio: that's crazy because for a while you're going twice a day.

Josh: Yeah, probably twice a day.

Radio: So he's going 14 times a week.

Tommy: I take like Sundays off.

Radio: You're doing 12 times a week.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, that's the fucking Hugh Jackman routine. What the—

Jack: Yeah, it didn't work.

Radio: You see what happens? You see what happens though? You end up not going.

Radio: Show me Wolverine rig.

Josh: It's not like, uh, the fitness first we go to, they've got Patch Express, which is like smoothies and stuff. Did they have like a, a place where you can work and eat? Like, were there times where you maybe— Yeah.

Radio: No, you're trying to justify the gym membership because, oh, but we use the desk.

Josh: I'm trying to work out if he's describing a co-working space that he went to or whether it was actually, actually a gym.

Mason: No, like, what were we talking about that got onto this?

Tommy: The Bluetooth in the car.

Radio: Yeah, when you're listening to the song.

Radio: No, I'm just saying, yeah, because when you're mixing, you go down, listen to it to hear if it sounds good on a device.

Tommy: Yeah, correct.

Radio: Is there the problem of also listening to yourself because we don't really like it. I can't do it.

Josh: Not listening to you guys, listening to us.

Radio: Yeah, like listening to you guys.

Mason: I think because it was so exciting, like, we just wanted to hear them. And we, we are really passionate about these songs, like, we love these songs.

Radio: I, I actually got a kick from putting it, like, through the Bluetooth and listening through a real speaker. And yeah, it's like, oh, we made that.

Tommy: And I wanted to show everyone, like, I would show people, like, my brother, I'd always make him listen to all the dry mixes.

Radio: We didn't discuss that.

Tommy: Yeah, I know. I just took— as chief marketing manager, I just decided to market the songs to people early.

Radio: But yeah, if there's a leak, we'll know why.

Josh: Was there any feedback that you got that wasn't great and how did you deal with it?

Radio: Probably the most offensive feedback we got is before when you said the singing doesn't have to be perfect.

Mason: I don't like—

Tommy: do people give negative feedback?

Radio: Well, Josh always asks, give us, you know, give us some—

Josh: slam me. I say fucking just absolutely rip us apart.

Jack: But no one ever does.

Radio: It's always rad. It's in cotton.

Radio: My wife does give pretty honest feedback. Bianca does. She doesn't think much of your songs on the album. I'm joking, I'm joking.

Josh: You know why he doesn't get bad feedback? His baby's gonna cry.

Mason: You know what's awkward?

Tommy: Like when you play these songs to people, they don't really have a choice but to sit there and just kind of nod.

Radio: You put the phone down, you play it, and you're going, yeah.

Mason: And then sometimes they start commenting.

Tommy: They're like, you know, they hear a line and they're like, oh, that's pretty funny.

Mason: But you know, you know You know the next line is funny.

Tommy: She's like, no, shut up, Josh.

Josh: I actually, when we were in LA last, we did an interview with a producer friend of ours, like a music producer, Josh Simons.

Radio: Oh, put us in touch.

Josh: And he was playing some of the band goes to America. Yeah, definitely. And he was playing some music for us that he'd produced. He had great monitors that he was playing it on. And there's a thing that happens when someone plays their music and a bop starts and it feels like the only polite thing to do is—

Radio: Oh, so he's bopping to his own music.

Josh: Singing. And so we— and it makes sense because he's, uh, it's someone else singing and all that sort of thing, so he's getting right into it. And I was catching myself. I sort of had this out-of-body experience where I was just in LA.

Radio: We'd already had— we had a few, um, samosas.

Josh: Yes.

Radio: Oh, not samosas, mimosas.

Tommy: So, fuck, isn't it samosas?

Josh: Can I just say, there was someone the other day that was talking about mimosas and I was like, like the Indian dish, but it's samosas. And I was trying to work out what it is. Who is that? If you're listening to the Daily Talk Show and you heard me say that samosas is the one that we had—

Radio: alcoholic beverages, not Indian treats.

Jack: Samosas are so good.

Tommy: Oh man, they are great.

Radio: He's hanging out with the guy on the hunt for sushi.

Radio: Yeah, we're literally in here for 2 minutes. Is there anywhere I could get sushi around here?

Josh: It's a podcast studio.

Radio: It's Pretty specific.

Radio: Just cut us up some salmon.

Josh: He would do that. Um, so you're not sure? We need to work out what you're doing next.

Jack: Can we—

Radio: can I take this moment to— and we've been rude because we haven't mentioned it yet, but Josh, happy birthday, mate! Oh, thank you!

Josh: It's Josh's birthday! Thank you!

Radio: Maybe we could, um, also—

Radio: oh no, this is From the Release the Sounds team, there's your very own jumper.

Tommy: We'll sign that as well if he wants.

Radio: I didn't leave a box to sign our names.

Radio: We could maybe just do a little happy birthday.

Josh: What, you meant to pretend that it's— No, that's all right. Yep, Saturday the 14th of September.

Radio: 14th of Sept. Here we go.

Tommy: You tell us when we come in.

Radio: Stay to you.

Jack: Oh God, this is awful. I'm sorry, this is awful.

Radio: This is good.

Josh: Up here.

Tommy: Do chords.

Radio: I don't know the song.

Radio: That's it.

Tommy: Happy birthday to you.

Josh: Can we just—

Radio: everyone else just let 97 do it our way.

Josh: Go, just 97 for the rest. It's his birthday, man.

Jack: Absolutely.

Josh: Don't fucking ruin my birthday.

Radio: It's his birthday.

Josh: No, just that last bit. Just go.

Mason: He's just lying.

Josh: Here we go.

Radio: Come on.

Jack: Happy birthday to you.

Tommy: Happy—

Radio: Can you give us more?

Jack: Happy birthday to you.

Josh: Could you harmonize, please?

Jack: Happy birthday, dear Josh. Happy birthday to you. That's beautiful.

Radio: Happy birthday, Josh.

Josh: What a surprise. 97, that was beautiful.

Radio: That's amazing. Uh, Mike, usually the backup vocals are to support.

Tommy: Yeah, mine really came on like, can I just say, can I just say, Josh asked me to harmonise and then I was like, oh, okay, Jack's doing it as well. You really threw me off.

Radio: I thought I was on American Pie.

Jack: Me and Mr. 97 were on something really well. We might be starting a band.

Radio: Mr. 97, What's one of your favourite songs?

Radio: Uh, probably Ed Sheeran, Perfect.

Radio: All right, you guys, you do the lead vocals, Mike, you do the backup vocals, and we'll sit back.

Tommy: I'm not gonna be mean, but if the lead vocals— if the main vocals aren't on point, the harmonies can't be good.

Josh: Well, Mr. 97 was in, um, the boys choir, Australian Boys Choir.

Jack: Okay, yeah, go, go for it, man.

Josh: And he's also—

Radio: it's not easy.

Josh: He's also low.

Radio: How does it start? What's the first lyric again?

Jack: When the night—

Tommy: when the— when the—

Radio: when the lion sleeps tonight. No, what is that? Uh, Stand By Me.

Josh: Which was in—

Radio: is the only—

Tommy: all right, Mr. 97, you can do the main lyrics.

Radio: Yes.

Josh: What?

Tommy: He doesn't know what's going on.

Jack: Be afraid, no I won't.

Radio: Be afraid, just as long as you stand, stand by me. 97. Darling, darling, stand by me.

Josh: Oh, I wish we knew to get a camera.

Radio: One present for his birthday we couldn't deliver.

Josh: That song is in Sandline. Kids, I think The Sandlot.

Radio: It's in, it's probably in Stand By Me.

Tommy: It's also, yeah, it's in The Sandlot. Maybe it's not in The Sandlot.

Radio: Stand By Me is what you're maybe thinking.

Radio: Sandlot and Stand By Me feel like similar.

Radio: Oh man, I said the other day, I was like, oh, the one with, uh, where they're walking along the train tracks.

Josh: Yeah, it's like, no, that's Sandlot. Great film underneath.

Radio: The Sandlot. Yeah, you know, it's only called The Sandlot Kids in Australia.

Josh: The Sandlot in the US. I remember my brother actually brought a D— he was touring the US with a basketball team and they like DVDs, very inexpensive. And I remember the US was like $8. And so we got a Panasonic multi-region DVD player and he brought all the DVDs and The Sandlot.

Radio: Yeah. And it was shocking. You were like, what's that?

Radio: It's crazy. Well, we heard Nick Ree— what? Nick Revolt?

Josh: Ree-volt? Nick Ree-volt?

Radio: No, I was thrown because of how he said it.

Radio: Yeah, because in America it's Nick Ree-volt and in Australia it's Ree-volt.

Radio: No, listen, when we were making a video with him last week, week. But the way he said his name is not how I say it.

Tommy: Rewalt, I call him. Rewalt. Yeah, the way he said it, Wikipedia says Revolt.

Radio: Yeah, exactly. He said it like that, and I was like, oh fuck, I've been calling this guy the wrong— I've been slandering this guy the wrong name his whole life. But he said it differently.

Radio: Anyway, similar to the Sandlot and the Sandlot.

Radio: No, no, no, no, no, no. His favourite film that he'd been watching with his young kid was The Sandlot, and I was like, oh, he's fucking butchered the name of this movie.

Josh: No, that was right.

Radio: But he was using American.

Radio: Oh, Ray Waltz's favourite movie is The Sandlot.

Josh: Well, that's the one that was making him smile. We're doing a video for Bond Street Dental and the whole question was, what makes you smile? And he said, I said, what movie? He said The Sandlot. And he'd actually bought a baseball for his kids.

Radio: He watches it with his kids.

Tommy: Yeah.

Radio: And then they love the baseball. But that's when I said, oh, the one with the train tracks.

Josh: No, you fucked up.

Radio: Nah, I fucked up big time.

Josh: He's not real mad about it. Mispronouncing his name.

Radio: Getting the movie wrong.

Josh: And so, uh, podcasts, you've got, uh, your podcast, Radio Mike.

Jack: Yeah, I do a podcast called 20th Century Boy, which is up to its 34th episode, which came out on Thursday just past.

Josh: Yeah, what's the experience been like?

Jack: It's been really good. Yeah, I—

Tommy: it's, it's about, uh, pop culture, and it's about me exploring my mental health through my history of pop culture and what I've liked growing up and trying to explore my identity through that.

Josh: What have you learned about yourself?

Mason: Not much so far.

Radio: It's really good, by the way. Yeah, it really is. It's funny.

Tommy: Yeah, and I have a few people that work on the show with me, not unlike your show with like Mr. 97 and 3D Dill, who is no longer on the show. But I've got—

Josh: He's just gone. He's gone back to Canada. He wasn't fired.

Radio: He wasn't fired. We let him go.

Josh: He will be back.

Radio: He's flown the coop.

Tommy: Yeah.

Radio: He's let the young man fly.

Jack: I've got like an editor who does what Mr. 97 does. Like he sits there and like, you know, sometimes chimes in.

Radio: And then he fucking doesn't sing when you want him to. When it's baby boy's birthday and you just want one thing for your birthday, that's young Sean.

Radio: You should do— so Mike's characters on the show is just him doing different voices?

Tommy: Oh no, they're not characters, they're real people.

Jack: Like, I've got an intern who's year 8, he goes to high school and we just have him in.

Tommy: And then I've got a production assistant.

Radio: You actually do, or is it—

Radio: it's him, it's Mike doing the voices.

Tommy: But you should— no, it's not, they're real characters who come in every week. And I think it's a discredit to them that you're saying that we try to do with Misty97 and all the harmonies with your characters?

Mason: I have done—

Jack: I did an episode in which, uh, Intern Mike, who is the intern on the podcast— this is episode 14, I believe, or 13.

Josh: 14 is a good number if you listen to episode 14 of our show.

Jack: Oh wow.

Tommy: He left the show and he decided to sing a song which was, um, You Raise Me Up by Westlife. And, uh, Editor Mike, the editor, did a few harmonies in there as well. Um, so yeah, I have done something like that. I want to do a few more musical things on the podcast.

Radio: And isn't Intern Mike here right now? No, he's at school.

Tommy: He's at school, obviously. Oh yeah, but he goes to Saturday school because he's failing. He has to go to school on Saturdays to catch up.

Jack: He does the catch-up programme at school.

Radio: Really? Jack, you, you've got a couple of shows that you're on.

Radio: Yep. Um, the Christian O'Connell Breakfast Show.

Radio: This wasn't a chance for you to plug it. Absolutely not.

Radio: Uh, you've got a billboard on iTunes.

Josh: Do you have a billboard?

Radio: No, no, but the show does.

Josh: Okay, so the show does.

Radio: Yeah, I'm not on it.

Mason: I'm sad you're not on any of them.

Radio: I really— I don't mind.

Radio: Can we just have the next one? Can we just do another round where it's you looking over his shoulder? Like, just the— it's come out, so everyone's just like, hang on, I see that billboard normally.

Radio: What the hell's happening? Yeah, if I had the time and energy, I would do— you know how people do paste-ups around Melbourne? I would put myself on one of the Christian O'Connell billboards.

Radio: Question to you just quickly, um, will you ever do your own? Do you think you'd do your own podcast?

Jack: Nah.

Radio: No, great. Well, there you go.

Josh: Move on.

Radio: No, no, I, I don't think so. I love the idea. I love podcasts.

Tommy: I love what you guys are all doing, but, um, you're not up to the task.

Radio: No, just—

Radio: I'm busy.

Jack: I'm busy.

Radio: I've got a baby and I've got a full-time job.

Josh: Are you doing the footy thing again? Last year you did the footy streaming.

Radio: I'm not—

Josh: it's—

Radio: I have not been invited back.

Jack: Really?

Josh: Yeah, that was so good.

Radio: Well, they're not doing it again from what I've seen, except it might pop up any week now.

Radio: Yeah, from what I've seen, until it pops up—

Tommy: hey, do you want to—

Radio: that'd be annoying.

Tommy: Can we tell one tidbit about the band. Do you remember the thing about the band and the footy show? Can we tell that?

Radio: Yeah, yeah, let's say that. Yeah, remember that? So at the start of the year, the footy show were completely revamped, and before we did, the band had even done anything. Because of Yuri, who's producing the album, his connection with TV, he said, hey, um, the footy show is desperate for pretty much any type of entertainment.

Jack: Do you guys—

Tommy: I didn't quite say that.

Radio: He didn't say that. I read between the lines.

Josh: He said, well, they contacted you, did they?

Radio: Do you guys You've got to pitch, uh, like a song each week for the footy show.

Jack: And I know nothing about footy. So Jack calls me, it's like, hey, we gotta do this thing on the footy show.

Tommy: And I was like, oh, like, I have no idea how I can make this relevant.

Jack: Um, and there's actually a punk band in Melbourne called Picket Palace, and they do that song Anthony McDonald Tipping Woody.

Tommy: Yeah, and they did one called Richo, which would have been a much better fit.

Radio: Definitely better than us. Obviously we said no, and I think that might have been a good idea because the show I thought you were going to say, I think that might have been the downfall of the footy show.

Tommy: No, but I think the show like got canceled, which is a shame.

Radio: And it would have been terrible for the band's first outing to be on a cancelled show.

Tommy: Yeah, but how funny is that?

Radio: How crazy is that?

Josh: I love the song title, Revolt. Could do a whole thing. Like, what's—

Radio: how do you say that?

Radio: I feel like this band Picket Palace, who've done the two, the song Richo song and the Tipper song, they're set for life now just doing football songs. Songs. They shouldn't go back to normal music.

Jack: No, they, they came in when I was working— oh, is that it?

Josh: That's Amazon, we're getting a package.

Tommy: Oh, okay.

Jack: Um, uh, they came in, I was working on the Hot Breakfast at Triple M, and they came in and performed it live. It was awesome. You've got to listen to this song, it's so great.

Radio: It's what's crazy, I've seen them perform before.

Mason: You told me this at the location of our second video clip.

Tommy: Oh really?

Radio: Yeah, which is where?

Radio: Code Red Balladrome.

Tommy: Which we are shooting today. Yeah, straight after this.

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

Radio: If you guys want to be— do you guys want to be extras in a video?

Josh: Uh, we're busy today.

Radio: We've had a bit of time taken up today already.

Josh: I mean, don't ask us. It's his birthday, don't fucking ask.

Radio: Yeah, you're right, you've probably got a lunch on or something. What are you— what, what are you doing?

Josh: Well, uh, Human Periscope, uh, is it— what was it? No, he says a package. Oh, you don't bring it in?

Radio: No, he always leaves the package.

Radio: I can tell that.

Radio: I want to see what it is.

Josh: Can you show us how big the package is, please? It's about that big.

Radio: He's doing probably about 3 shoeboxes along. Yeah, yeah. 2, 1.

Josh: Actually, we need to sort out my New Balance.

Jack: Oh yeah, can I just say, we plugged a lot of Picket Palace and they are a great band, but the purpose of this podcast was to promote our band. So please listen to our band.

Josh: Is it going to be— and in regards to what I'm doing today, our mate Peter Shepherd is doing a talk at TEDx TEDx at Melbourne Uni. Very cool. But, um, can we listen on Spotify?

Mason: Yeah, you can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, any streaming service.

Tommy: You can buy it on iTunes, the music videos on YouTube.

Jack: Just type in—

Radio: we just want it to be free for everybody. Yeah, or if you buy it on iTunes.

Tommy: Yeah, you can buy it for $1.29.

Radio: Why would you though?

Radio: Just buy it. Support.

Tommy: There was an option to let people buy it and you could choose the price.

Josh: CD Baby or What it was, uh, Ditto Music.

Tommy: They helped us out and they were very friendly and the customer service was great.

Jack: Thanks, Ditto.

Josh: Ditto Music.

Jack: Okay, great.

Radio: That sounds like a contract deal for like everything.

Radio: TicketPalace, Ditto Music.

Tommy: No, not just my podcast.

Radio: Um, so you're gonna perform the song?

Jack: Yeah.

Radio: And did you want to give it an intro?

Josh: Yeah, what is it? So it's a— it's about to do—

Radio: but for now, like, for the—

Radio: oh, Mike's got sushi. He's gonna eat sushi. So we're gonna do the music and then go and eat some sushi.

Radio: I was kind of hoping Josh would put his jumper on, but that's all right.

Josh: No, I don't take off the Daily Talk Show one, but it's—

Jack: but do you want to hold it up?

Josh: I will. It's, uh, oh, it's beautiful.

Radio: Yeah, it's awesome.

Josh: It's, um, AAS color, which we love, mate. It's our preferred, uh, what—

Radio: that was such a good idea by them. Hey, I don't know how they became like the go-to blank t-shirt or jumper, but they did, and now everybody just knows they're good quality. Yeah, don't you see the head of marketing? You hype them up.

Jack: Yeah, everyone knows about their They're good quality, the prices are great, and it's so comfortable to wear, which is why you should get one right now at releasethesounds.com.

Josh: How good— how is your, uh, mailing? Like, are you sending shipping? Are you sending shit out quickly?

Tommy: Uh, yeah, we're sending it out really quickly. Well, I mean, we, we've moved 100,000.

Radio: They can't— the company who prints the shirts also ships them out, so we actually— it's not like we have them at our house.

Josh: I like knowing all the, um—

Jack: they're—

Radio: they actually have two names, the T Junction and OGO.

Radio: Trying to get—

Josh: and this is digital funnel, uh, digital, but it looks really like— digital's come such a long way.

Radio: Yeah, no, it looks—

Josh: it looks—

Radio: it's good quality. You like it? You look at that, it's good quality.

Josh: It feels great.

Radio: Yeah. Um, the pick I will be using for today's performance is— I forgot to bring a guitar pick, so Tommy gave me his old boating license.

Josh: Yeah.

Radio: And I've cut out a guitar pick, um, and it's the photo of your head.

Radio: It's actually having more use as a pick than it ever did as an actual boat license.

Radio: How, how many times did you go out on the boat?

Tommy: Zero.

Radio: Really?

Josh: I mean, you've got a Jets membership you're not using.

Jack: Do you want to trade?

Radio: Is there any physical component to the boat driving test, or do you just have to sit?

Radio: Physical?

Radio: Yeah, like, do you have to go out and do a parallel park?

Radio: This is how fucked it is. You can pay money, do a weekend, so it's a Saturday, yeah, get your boat license, and you can drive up to like a— look it up, Mr. 97— but a 52-foot boat. So I could drive a small ship. It just can't be a commercial boat because then you need a commercial license.

Jack: But you should do a show from a ship.

Tommy: Do a show with Tommy driving.

Radio: No, but there's no— you literally, it's all textbook.

Radio: Yeah, you know, it's just a written test. You don't ever have to show them you know how to go.

Josh: So you read the textbook?

Radio: Uh, mate, it was pretty shocking.

Radio: They're fail-proof.

Radio: They're fail-proof. They're literally like—

Tommy: it's like your RSA. Have you ever done your RSA?

Radio: Nah, but you watch a whole bunch of videos and then you do some book work.

Josh: Well, that's what, that's what Bree did. She just did the— her first aid stuff.

Radio: I know, but you want to pass. That's—

Jack: yeah, but the thing is, well, you want to—

Josh: you want it to be a part of it as well, but you also want it to be a bit hard.

Tommy: That's how the Titanic sank, man. He didn't have his boat license. They found out after.

Radio: No, it's just a test.

Radio: They hardly make you do anything.

Tommy: Yeah, I don't know what to do.

Radio: It's, um, same as a— I mean, they're just— it's a bit more of a car license. Like, you should have to redo your car as you get older, I reckon.

Josh: That was when I was, um, in school, one of the debates we did was, should you have to retake your driver's license? But you were first at 70. I was, no, negative. I was talking about the fact that we need to give elderly people independence, and this was taking away all of that. A fun fact on the Pic or Pics in general, your one and only comedy show that you ever did. Yeah, the marketing of that show was a Jack Post pick.

Jack: Yeah, that's for you, the chief marketing manager.

Josh: I was.

Radio: Yeah, no, Josh did help with that. That is a cool idea. We should have done that for the band, give away free guitar picks. Yeah, because everybody kept them.

Josh: Yeah. What's the unit price?

Radio: Can't remember.

Tommy: Surely very cheap.

Radio: Yeah, it wasn't expensive for the picks, and they look good.

Josh: Yeah, they were great. And you put a, like, a business card and then stapled it so it would all sort of stay, and you could hand it off.

Radio: Yeah, well, it was, it was a great idea.

Radio: Look, if you're looking for a new marketing Coordinator.

Jack: Mark, you can be the coordinator, I'll be the manager.

Radio: Oh wow.

Radio: All right, coordinators end up getting the shit done, let's be honest.

Josh: Anyway, so, uh, let's play, uh, are we doing it here?

Jack: Yeah.

Radio: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, okay.

Josh: So here we go.

Radio: 97, can you, um, give me a bit more volume in my mic?

Radio: And then can we get a, uh, a year 10 fade into a real version?

Josh: Can we do that? Real long crossfade.

Radio: What about one of those stars?

Josh: No, you don't have to do that. We'll have you standing up doing that. It's a daily talk show.

Jack: Our first single is called Attached to String and it's out now.

Josh: Attached to String.

Jack: Attached to String.

Josh: Okay.

Radio: Yeah. Don't act so surprised. I sent you the song. It's out.

Josh: Well, it didn't have the title name Attached to String.

Radio: Because interesting fact, we kept calling it Puppet Song the whole way through because it's about a puppet.

Jack: So it was like a demo name.

Josh: Can you say something about the subreddit again? Yeah.

Jack: This is stuff that people in the subreddit would care about.

Tommy: The working title—

Radio: It doesn't exist yet.

Jack: There were working titles for all the songs. The working title for this was Puppet Song.

Radio: Puppet Song. And the MP3 that I sent you, Josh, was labelled Puppet Song. So that's why when we said A Touch to String, you looked confused.

Jack: For example, the song—

Tommy: there's another song on the album which is called Don't Put Me on Hold, and the working title for that was called Vegan Song.

Jack: But you'll learn more about that when the album comes out. Chief marketing manager out.

Radio: Before we finish up, just give your subreddit a quick plug.

Jack: Reddit.com/r/ReleaseTheSounds.

Josh: That's great.

Mason: Go subscribe.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show. If you've enjoyed the show, leave us an Apple Podcast review. That's always appreciated. Otherwise, you can email us hi@thedailytalkshow.com. They're— ReleaseTheSounds.com is their website. Otherwise, we'll see you for Sunday and we're going to be in Sydney. We are on Sunday. So that's exciting. See you then.

Jack: We're not.

Josh: They won't be there. Bye.

Mason: Hey guys, are you ready?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I'm ready.

Mason: Hey guys, we're Release the Sounds, and yesterday we released our first single—

Tommy: we released our first sound, like the name of our band, A Touch to String.

Mason: And today we're doing a live acoustic version of it on the Daily Talk Show, which is this show that you're listening to.

Tommy: Take it away, Jack.

Radio: Well said, Mike.

Jack: I had a lovely evening, I walked you to your car. The next thing I know you were leaning in and we kissed. I never get this far, I hold you close the moment last I touch your skin. But I went to run my hand through your hair and I noticed you were attached to string. You were a puppet this whole time, you were attached to string. You were a puppet this whole time. I think back to the meal we ate, I really should have noticed then. You were spilling food all down your top and knocking shit over with your arms flailing. But the way you looked at me with those Those unblinking eyes. You distracted me from my mom in the rafters of the restaurant. She was making your arms move, making your mouth chew, making you love me, making me love you. You were a puppet this whole time. You were attached to string. You were a puppet this whole time.

Mason: I don't care what they say, 'cause I love you. You're a puppet, I'm a boy, but together we are two. I'll take you to the altar, you say "I do." Mom's pulling the strings, I'm connecting with you. I love you.

Jack: Now we have a life together, and we live down by the sea. Oh, you can't go in the water, but you can sit on the sand, watching me. We have a beautiful son, half puppet and half man. Though the kids at school like to tease him sometimes for his puppet head and his human hands. But everything else was perfect until my dad called me one day He said, "Son, I'm sorry to tell you that your mother passed away." I guess you didn't know what to say, 'cause you didn't say a thing. I guess you didn't know what to do, 'cause you completely stopped moving. You were a puppet this whole time, you were attached to string. You were a puppet this whole time. You were attached to string. You were a puppet this whole time.

Radio: Am I out of shot?

Tommy: Yeah, you are.