Gronk Cards

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 449.

Tommy: It's weekend banter. It's Sunday. I'm feeling good. It might be the coffee that's just perked me right up.

Josh: I think it's the, uh, being in nature.

Tommy: Ah, yeah, yeah. I mean, some say that we were out filming second season of Our Planet, or second, you know, second feature-length documentary series.

Josh: Well, because you, um, I told you about the behind the scenes of Our Planet where They basically filmed the cinematographers and the directors who would go into these crazy places around the world. Yeah. And film like animals and nature.

Tommy: Yeah. I reckon it's actually better than Our Planet. I reckon it's better than— because David Attenborough narrates this one. You just don't see him in it, but he just got dragged into the VO booth.

Josh: Have you seen— because I've seen Planet Earth.

Tommy: Oh, sorry. That's what I mean.

Josh: No, no, I think it is. But I think Our Planet '97, were you saying, is a different thing?

Mason: Yeah. Yeah. So, Our Planet is Netflix's Planet Earth, and then BBC actually.

Tommy: Oh, then I've only seen Our Planet because I've only watched— yeah, yeah, so I'm a tight-ass.

Josh: I watch fucking Netflix, whatever's on Netflix.

Tommy: I've got no other subscription, and sometimes I will watch a cheap movie on, uh, iTunes.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: I'll rent it.

Josh: I rented one, but then I, um, it only gives you 48 hours. I didn't have time to watch the whole thing.

Tommy: Then why did you pay for it? That's the whole point.

Josh: You just buy it.

Tommy: The only, the only reason, I mean, it makes sense. You, when you have time to watch a movie, you're browsing and then you press go and then you watch. And then if you cut out halfway or if you're just like, oh, I'm too tired, then you've got 48 hours. You can watch it the next night. We've done that.

Josh: Well, it's not too dissimilar to how I guess Blockbuster or Video Ezy used to work.

Tommy: I mean, are those words quite foreign to you, Mr. 97?

Mason: Blockbusters or and Oh, actually, I remember going to Blockbuster.

Tommy: Movieland?

Mason: Nah, Movieland was like a po-po.

Tommy: Yeah, we had Movieland in Brighton. It was quite good.

Mason: Like, yeah, they always had those at Blockbuster. They always had those like square stands and they'd always have lollies and treats in at the counter. It's great.

Tommy: So you still remember going, but you're getting DVDs, not VHS?

Mason: No, no, no, DVDs.

Tommy: No, no, no, no, no.

Mason: Would have been Blu-ray as well.

Josh: It's crazy to think it wasn't that long ago with the Netflix, like the delivery, the mail delivery. I mean, physically.

Tommy: I mean, how many people in Australia did that?

Josh: Well, no one in Australia. Well, there was no Netflix DVD service, but there was Quickflix.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Which is when I got the credit, like people coming after me. What's that called? Debt collectors.

Tommy: Debt collectors. Yeah. So Blockbuster fucked up when they were having that meeting, which is that famous storey about whether they were going to invest in going down the streaming path and they opted out of it. And their business is now folded. How annoying.

Josh: It's a convenient story. It feels like there would have been many, many conversations.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Because I guess there is the argument that there are the ones that survived for a bit longer than the others. The video stores, they definitely weren't just doing videos. You were there for the ice cream. You were there for the lollies. Were you? Mainly food.

Tommy: I mean, I was mainly there for the movies.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I always just thought it was too expensive. It's like the cinemas now. But the fine thing, it used to be a big, a big thing. Like you return an overnight rental late and you get whatever. Is it just— how did they used to do it? Was it a night?

Josh: Like they charge you $7?

Tommy: It's bizarre. But who comes up with these figures? So Mr. 97, I sent you something and it was a photo I took the other night where I park going to the gym. Uh, it's a, it's a little bit away. I'm one of those sooks that drives to the gym, but then I get pissed when I have to walk further than I need to. Like all the parks out the front.

Josh: I mean, how far?

Tommy: I take it 500 meters.

Josh: Yeah, that's bullshit.

Tommy: I know, but I've got there in the car, so I'm like, I just, I just hope for the Rockstar car park. Shunk, get out, go and do my exercise, shunk, back in.

Josh: Do you have to, um, it gets annoying if you need to drive to cheque the first car park and then Backtrack?

Tommy: No, no backtracking. So I drive past and if I get a— I always get one up near this place.

Josh: Did you get me almond milk or normal milk?

Tommy: I got you normal milk.

Josh: I'm feeling a little bit phlegmy.

Tommy: It's probably just a thick hot chocolate. I think it'd be the same if it was almond milk.

Josh: But I just— you might have noticed I almost sound a bit hermit-y there.

Tommy: I could hear it. Anyway, so I walk past this train line, this train bridge, and there's a sign, and on the sign is like basically telling gronks not to throw rubbish over down onto the track area, because there is like, I— there is, there is an old— it looks like something out of the library from my primary school. It's so old, but people dump shit. It's fucking disgusting. Anyway, how much, Mr. 97? What does it say on that photo they sent you?

Mason: Dumping rubbish is illegal. Yeah, spot fines of $317.

Josh: Seems cheap.

Tommy: I know this. So who's— firstly, $317, kind of cheap. Do you actually, like, if you get caught just lobbing a fucking laptop or some old bloody rear projection telly, rear projection telly straight over, you just, all right mate, $317. But then who actually comes up with this? Do you know?

Josh: Sorry, I'm eating croissant. No, I don't.

Tommy: So I looked this up. Sorry, sorry, I put this onto my Instagram account and I actually got, um, sent a, uh, a a message from Lydia. I don't know Lydia, but she's come with the goods and she said, the state government, I believe, a certain number of penalty units for different offences. So, my take of that is they've got like a tally system and you'd probably like do some checkboxes. It probably is this old school where they're using pencil and they cheque a few and then at the end it can spit out based on a few boxes that have been checked, the number of the fine. And so that's why you get obscure fines like $317.

Mason: Well, yeah. Well, the thing is here, the current value of a penalty unit is $165.22.

Josh: Wait, so what are a— what's a penalty unit?

Tommy: So it must be— so if you're looking to establish, say, if we're going to want to enforce some kind of gronk fine for someone who leaves an empty toilet roll and then proceeds to put a full toilet roll, doesn't take off the empty one and replace it with a full one. They just put the full one on top of the empty one. Someone did it. I won't name the name. No, I think it's outside of our circle. We were, we were guests. We were infiltrated by Gronkh. Yeah, and they pulled the Gronkh move on us.

Josh: That's okay, maybe they didn't know.

Tommy: So, so the point is, mates, for that kind of a fine, you'd go, okay, who's it affecting? Maybe that's 1 penalty unit. Maybe they have like a rating system for what the thing— what it takes into account. So rubbish, certain criteria, rubbish gets 1. Where's the rubbish? Is it onto a private property or is it onto a public land or like— And then you get 2.

Josh: They would be good to have a gronk system to work out. What is it called? Unit point? What is it called?

Mason: Uh, it's a penalty unit.

Josh: Penalty unit.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I think it would be good to work out within the office some penalty units.

Tommy: Yeah, I appreciate that. So kitchen, kitchen area. Yeah. One penalty unit if it goes down in the kitchen area and then it gets on to like what actually has happened.

Josh: So what would be—

Mason: I mean, so how many penalty units is something happening in the bathroom?

Tommy: So you get one for being in the bathroom and then it's— there's—

Josh: No, but that's where we just go wrong.

Tommy: Just take the shade. No, no, no.

Josh: One penalty unit.

Tommy: No, no, no, no, no.

Josh: Because you'd be in more trouble than I, the amount of ding-dings I hear from the toilet.

Mason: That would reduce the units, wouldn't it?

Tommy: There's things that reduce the units. So let's say the person that, uh, so maybe 2 penalty units for a person that puts a— oh no, 3 penalty units. Okay, this is how you go. You get the bath— no, listen, bathroom, 1 penalty unit because that's where the crime went down. That's where the Gronkh crime went down. Um, second is not taking off the empty toilet roll because it was just there and useless. Third penalty unit, then putting the toilet roll and just sitting it on top, not even sideways, you have to physically grab it. So that's a third penalty unit. And if they leave a shit stain on the toilet, fourth. So what are we looking at there? How much is that fine?

Mason: I have the photo.

Tommy: What is it, $165 per unit?

Josh: So each unit has the same price, does it?

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Uh, was it Ben? Uh, Laura has just sent No, no, it wasn't Ben.

Josh: And we, by the end of the show, we will name the person who—

Mason: $660, Tommy, and 88 cents.

Tommy: Okay, what?

Mason: $660.88.

Tommy: That's 4 units.

Josh: Yeah, we could actually start making money. Could we make money through the podcast by having some sort of Gronkh system?

Tommy: I love it.

Josh: What about cards? This is a little bit guerrilla marketing-ish. What about the idea of cards that say like, Gronk move?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: And we call out Gronk behavior. And so we have cards. And so if you did a shit park, you've been submitted to, you know, the Gronk, Gronk behaviour or whatever.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: It will be mentioned on the daily talk show.

Tommy: Yeah, I fucking love it. I love it. So first of all, came to mind was you like a funny video. Ryan John in a referee's outfit because he is the game show host guy.

Josh: Yeah, but he has some real new age Mike Whitney.

Tommy: As Gronkh legit hard cards and they're our blue. And so you get blue, you get Gronkh carded.

Josh: Blue cards, great.

Tommy: Blue cards, which is our branding. And then you've got, just for anyone listening and trying to work out, blue is my favourite color. So if you had been taking note over the last 400+ episodes, or they could have been purple because that's Josh's favourite color. So blue.

Josh: And then Breeze is green, by the way.

Tommy: Oh, that's cute.

Josh: I know you asked and I said sort of neutral colours and you said beige and I said yes.

Tommy: I mean, you guys are funny because you— yours is purple. You don't— I've never seen you ever use or wear anything that is purple. And green, Bree, I don't know. I don't— do you— does Bree have green clothes already? Oh yeah, okay, fair.

Josh: But what's yours again?

Mason: Blue.

Josh: Blue.

Tommy: I mean, it's so much easier. I can wear blue jeans, like my light blue stuff that I've got.

Josh: It's more of a basic— you went for a safe answer.

Tommy: No, just like, like, I like baby blues. Like, I like shades of blue. Like, I like this blue. That's why I was so happy when I came back and you guys had decided on the blue.

Josh: I was like, what would be something that you would buy in the colour of purple rather than blue?

Tommy: Nothing. Uh, spray can. Sometimes there's some really nice, like, um, like black and blue—

Josh: black and purple.

Tommy: Nah, there's like, um There's like a really light purple. Anyway, we're off the Gronk card, so they're blue cards and we've got Ryan John scouring the CBD looking to hand out a Gronk card.

Josh: Oh, that's great.

Tommy: And so then what happens is, like you said, each of these Gronk moves gets handed to somebody and this will be mentioned on the Daily Talk Show. And so it's a moment of the week where Ryan comes back and—

Josh: Do we do it once, once a week?

Tommy: It's a lot. It was a lot of work for Ryan. But I'd like him to go live.

Josh: Yeah, I think it would be fun. I mean, if we start with Ryan and see where it goes. So do we start it in the CBD or something?

Tommy: Well, I mean, it's quite easy because you could just easily find someone who flicks a ciggy butt, who just drops some, who spits. I mean, it could get aggressive with those people.

Josh: Next week we'll be in Sydney. We could do a Sydney Gronk edition out in like the, go sort of the tourist hotspots. Yeah. Any gronk moves? I mean, the problem is when it comes to printing, the thing that's gotten us in the past has been short-term, short deadlines.

Tommy: Yeah, we like things to get done quick. Yeah, but with a quick turnaround, it ends up costing more. Yeah.

Josh: And so that's the only concern I have at this point is the cost. Yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, so we should actually do it. Mr. 97, have you found out any other fines in Victoria that obscure costs?

Mason: Well, I've I've never heard of this, but fat arming, when you leave your arm hanging out of the window in the car, costs you $325.

Tommy: Fat arming?

Josh: Who calls it fat arming?

Mason: It's on the government website.

Josh: On the government website?

Tommy: So when you're driving along, you just—

Mason: F-A-T, hyphen, arming.

Josh: Fat arming.

Mason: Never heard of it before.

Josh: Can you just Google fat arming?

Tommy: I fat arm quite a bit. I mean, but don't actually— don't fucking judge my arm, Victorian Police Department.

Mason: Urban Dictionary comes up first.

Josh: And what does the Urban Dictionary say?

Mason: What's a fat arm? To cruise down the street in your car with the window rolled down with your arm hanging out the window, making your muscles look bigger than they actually are.

Josh: So, the Victorian government is using Urban Dictionary to work out what they're going to be— Next they'll be charging people for dabbing and things like that.

Tommy: I hope so.

Mason: You'll be done.

Josh: How much? How much for a dab?

Tommy: How much are you getting charged for a dab? One unit.

Mason: Yeah, one unit.

Josh: Well, this was the interesting thing, which I never actually completely worked out, but I watched A Current Affair. A few months ago.

Tommy: Expose on dabbing?

Josh: No, not on dabbing, on being in the car. And they were saying, uh, you basically can't even be drinking or eating while in the car. Drinking, food, anything, anything. You can't have a hand off the wheel and be doing something.

Tommy: And then what happens with some— a company like Maccas who just supplies food into the car window And as if you don't just have to have a little sip of Coke before you just put it down. You're in the car. I'm saying they're the businesses that are encouraging this stuff and it makes it feel like it's okay when you—

Josh: Yeah. Mate, can you have a look up in the Victorian, what the Victorian laws are? Because in this area where we are in Abbotsford, there are police cyclists with like Lycra and they're pulling people over like they're riding very slowly. It seems like an extremely inefficient way of doing things.

Tommy: Well, or efficient because you don't see them coming. They're like little predators and then they just pop out and just on your window and you've been done for $415 for being on your mobile device while in your vehicle.

Josh: Yeah, it's hard. I wonder how I'd go talking my way out of it.

Tommy: No, no, no way. The dude who— I know that. Yeah, the dude who got me, I was, mate, I said something about my family. I was like, man, I've just had a kid. I was so fucking—

Josh: I'm a dad, I'm a great dad, I don't give a fuck.

Tommy: But they— no, no, they're so— they don't fucking like helping people anymore. I mean, what are you going to talk about? You're just— you're doing the wrong thing. And that's why I had to cop it on the chin. The one other one that I got done was driving. So I took off from a set of lights and we just finished doing an interview, a podcast with Craig Harper. This was Way back, way, way, way back. And I'd taken off and it was like just hit 2:30, which is school zone. And the fucking snakes— I was on the opposite side of the school, the kids weren't out, and I just accelerated not even thinking. And then all of a sudden I see a cop on the road. He's just like this. I was like, my heart just sunk because I didn't— and I still hadn't worked out what I'd done.

Josh: Better being a cop than being a kid.

Tommy: Oh yeah, I should have driven through, but I pulled in, right? And I was like, oh no. What the fuck? What was I— I don't quite get it yet. And so I wound down the window as he's walking. I kind of lent— I was— I fat-armed out. What's the problem here, mate?

Josh: And well, you have attitude.

Tommy: Yeah, no, no, I said it. I would have said it nicely. I said, I'm sorry, what's the problem here?

Josh: It's still not nice. You still got attitude.

Tommy: No, no, it was— I was—

Josh: Tell me, how did you say it?

Tommy: I promise you, I was fucking—

Josh: All right, stop yelling.

Tommy: Really upset.

Josh: Let's reset. How did you say it?

Tommy: I said, um, excuse me, what, what, what's the problem here? Like, I was acting a bit dumb.

Josh: You sound like—

Tommy: no, that's exactly what I said. But what he did was he held the thing on his fucking coat and he just said, um, the time of day. Like, he started recording, and so he turned on a recording device, but it seemed like only because I lent out and interacted that he thought, okay, this could be fucking Yeah, no, this could be on. I could, I could just blow up and he's documenting it.

Josh: So clearly you were aggressive.

Tommy: I 100% wasn't aggressive. 100%.

Josh: You were sooky.

Tommy: I was sooky, but I wasn't. I was like, I'm trying to understand what it was, right?

Josh: Because if you're a cop, you've got like room to move. You could be checking. He could cheque your tyres. He could get you real good.

Tommy: Well, yeah, if you're a smartass, that's why you can't. But then all cops now record everything, so it's like if they're doing solids for people, like, how could— like, um, a mate of mine, uh, was driving and he shouldn't have been driving, and he'd had a few drinks, and he got pulled over, and he was with his brother, and they made them get out and they fucked with them. They were like, okay, now I need you both to— I need you to do 10 push-ups. And they started making him do push-ups.

Josh: And really, how long ago was this?

Tommy: This was years and years ago when we were young, when we were young. And they just then were like, no worries, all right, see ya. They just—

Mason: they didn't even get speeding tickets.

Josh: I'd be fucked. How many would I have to do? I'd just be like, just what's the— what's the fight? Um, kettlebell swings all of a sudden. I've got a kettlebell. Yeah, but the, um, I had a friend the other day that it went in a country town, went from one speed limit to another.

Tommy: Getcha.

Josh: And, uh, she got pulled over. They had an alcohol, um, what is it called?

Tommy: Yeah, breathalyzer.

Josh: And, um, she's like, ah, I thought I must have been speeding, but I knew that I wasn't. He goes, oh no, you were, you were going 20 kilometres over the speed limit.

Tommy: So then he's trying to work out if she's pissed.

Josh: Yeah. And so but he went back to the car, did a check, and he said, I'm giving you a warning. You are very lucky you have no, um, other, uh, record of speeding.

Tommy: Fuck, that's good. That's good.

Josh: So, but like, that is pure luck at that point. Like, what, what is, what is allowing that, in that case, that person to get off versus someone else? It's just like a likeable face?

Tommy: Oh, I think it has to be the cop. It has to be the cop wanting just to be okay, because then you're assuming that the person can break the person, break the cop. I think there's just some who are friendly, like, yeah, there's just some humans that are nicer than others. And, um, the same guy that was made to do the push-ups was once, um, caught on— they— he got pulled over for speeding, and the guy said, you're going blah blah blah, And he said, luckily, he said, show me, show me the gun that says that. And the guy hadn't— didn't have the gun. Really? He didn't have it registered on the gun. So like, so you go boom. It's not a cam— they don't take a photo, it just locks it or whatever, registers your speed, and then you can see. And so, yeah. And he was like, at this time, I don't think it's probably the case. I mean, I wouldn't do it now. Then it was like, always ask, always ask to see the gun.

Josh: I know that people would ask for their photo. If they've gotten caught speeding or whatever.

Tommy: Yeah, you can actually see it online. You can log into the website. So if you get done through a red light camera and you can, I think you actually have to pay. Look that up. Do you have to pay to obtain the red light camera photo?

Josh: That's what I think you have to. I think they just have to provide it. Have you ever gone to court for one of these things?

Tommy: No, I can't be fucked. I'd rather pay the money. No, I mean, I hate Going to court for a fine would be the most annoying thing. I was walking, I was walking past VCAT, which is in the city, and they look after what, like, the amount of, the amount of times that I've, um, threatened the ombudsman to, uh, all different types of people.

Josh: It's crazy. Literally, the amount of times I said ACCC and Consumer Affairs yesterday talking to Apple. And the thing is, it's harder when you are like slightly I'm being unreasonable, but tell me what you think. So on Thursday, when my computer was broken, they checked the check, they checked what the deal was, and they said, oh, it's a USB port, it's the USB port's not working, we just need to replace that. I'm like, I need the laptop by Sunday night.

Tommy: Today?

Josh: Like, it's a— yeah, today. It's a non-negotiable.. And so, I ended up working my way to the manager and I said, I'm like, the thing is this has happened many times before. And what happens is you guys test out what's wrong with the whole thing and then it turns out it's something else and then you don't have the part and there's all these delays. And I'm like, in case that happens, can you just have that other part on standby or can you just— I was trying to get a replacement, essentially.. And so, long storey short, today was meant to be the day. Yesterday I get an email. They said they were going to call me.

Tommy: Email.

Josh: They emailed and said, can you call please in regards to this? And so I called them and they're like, oh yeah, we need another part. It's going to now take an extra few more days. And so you won't get it until Tuesday, which I get it. It's like, it's fairly reasonable. It's like, what do you think at this point?

Mason: I mean, what, what can they do aside from give you a replacement?

Josh: Give me a replacement.

Tommy: Yeah, but that's what you're pushing for. So you're going, I— yeah, your problem, which is being solved quicker than most other cases, uh, you, you need to rectify that. And that's the funny thing, I think this is why people don't push, is because you have to get somebody into a pretty uncomfortable position using your words.

Josh: I was literally saying to him, I'm like, okay, I'm putting myself in your position. And so I'd like play it all out. And so we did that for an hour and 15 minutes. The store had closed. It was 5:15 and I was still on the phone to him.

Tommy: Mate, they would think you're an absolute flog.

Josh: Yeah. And the thing was, he's like, oh no, I've noted it all down. I'm like, oh fuck, imagine this note. Because the thing is—

Tommy: No, he hasn't. He's just saying he's being a good customer service person.

Josh: I've had 4 replacements and this is like, they've spoiled me. I've had so many replacement laptops where things have gone wrong that I'm like, it wasn't this hard last time.

Tommy: No, but I think it's changing. I know you've been good at getting it, but I got the early day iPhones. I had like 5 replacements. I'd just take it in. Yep, new one. Yep, new one. Yep, new one. But they slowly start to go, okay, no, we can repair. And so they start to—

Josh: But the thing is, the repair stuff, there was a whole exposé on it. They're making the devices so small that they actually can't repair. It's so hard to repair devices nowadays, and they're glueing shit in. And so that's part of the problem, is that they— a lot of the cases, like, I was even— it is traumatic. I know this is very low-level trauma, low-level trauma, but it's traumatic being at the Genius Bar and hearing all the different— everyone's going through something, right? And so this one lady, she, she couldn't work out her password for her iPad and they were having to reset the whole thing.

Tommy: Oh no.

Josh: And she was saying, yeah, and so she was saying, oh, like, what's another one gonna cost you? And then she was like really flirting. She was in her 50s and she was really flirting with this guy who was also in his 50s to the point where like she said, oh, like, could I get a job here type of thing. Like, what would it take to get a job? And she's like, even maybe I could just, you know, direct people. And he's like, you can actually do this sort of stuff. She goes, I don't know anything about this stuff. He's like, no, you know, we train you and all that sort of thing. Before you know it, they're hugging.

Mason: Really? This isn't the person with the forgotten password?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: She was like so traumatised because she was like, um, they weren't sure whether there was other hardware issues or whatever. And so she was asking, what's the price going to be. And she was— it was like the How to Win Friends. Everyone's trying to do the How to Win Friends and Influence People.

Tommy: Well, this is what I'm saying. You have to— it takes a lot of effort. Look how much thought and effort you were— you've been in over the past 4 days, like, just thinking about it. And so this is why people don't do this shit. People don't fight fines. They'll pay their parking fine when they— when they probably know that they probably could get out of it. Some people have got— like, I've written for fines before, never got out of them.

Josh: So then Bree, when I get off the phone, she can't look at the positive of how much effort I put in. She straight away said, why can't you do that with Fitness First?

Tommy: That's a fucking valid point. Yeah, it is a valid point.

Josh: And so, but how about this? One of our mates—

Tommy: what's Fitness First? What is that?

Josh: It's a gym membership.

Tommy: No, but what you want to get out of it? Yeah, is that okay? Okay, now there should be some way of getting— I reckon that would be medical. I reckon that'd be much easier than the genius bar, to be honest.

Josh: Maybe getting out of it because then I can get somewhere closer and we can do this whole sauna dream that we've got.

Mason: Sounds great.

Josh: Um, but, uh, anyway, I reckon don't give it much more thought.

Tommy: Don't give it too much more energy.

Josh: Uh, a friend of ours who worked at a Fitness First, she, um, she was an instructor, got the cheaper, um, like $10 a week rate, like a really good rate. She wanted to cancel they required a medical certificate for her to cancel. For her to cancel.

Tommy: And she worked there.

Josh: She had worked there. Yeah. So, she'd gotten a good deal.

Tommy: And then, I mean, this is the thing about contracts. There's not much— How much leeway have they got? Like, this is the thing. Business—

Josh: How much leeway as in to—

Tommy: Like, for a company that enforces a contract and then hundreds of people are trying to get out of what they'd put together. So, it's like, pushing against. I get it, there's some phone companies are criminals in some respects. Gyms, they rely on people not going, they rely on the use of the world.

Josh: You know what he suggested, uh, to our friend? He said, oh, you can actually, um, just sell your membership on Gumtree.

Mason: Wow, I've seen those listings.

Tommy: See, but that's, that's flawed. I mean, that seems bizarre.

Josh: Who the fuck is buying a membership off Gumtree. Like, what's, what's that arrangement?

Tommy: Can you look it up, see if we can buy any gym memberships? Because we might be able to buy the one that Josh wants, the sauna one, wants to end up getting.

Josh: Or maybe it could be a swap.

Tommy: That'd be good. Gym swap. Yeah, but it's still being debited. I don't know how that works because it's like your photo or your— all your details are on the card. This is where you're just gonna have— I don't know if I'm having an in at any company. I don't know how it's— it's probably hard at Apple.

Josh: I got to the point of mentioning Trevor Long at that on the Apple—

Tommy: Trevor's right, right now saying, do never, never mention me again.

Josh: Yeah, so if he doesn't get to go to the Apple events anymore, it's because I mentioned him.

Tommy: Where is your energy going?

Josh: It's, um, well, isn't it annoying not having a laptop tomorrow?

Tommy: It's fucking annoying, to be honest. But I think, yeah, so now that it is the case where they're just— you've got no option, right? This is the thing, you try and push it, you push it, push it until they say Listen, bro, you got no option.

Josh: Huge silences.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: The whole thing.

Tommy: For a guy that doesn't like awkward interactions.

Josh: So I was just— I've gotten so much better. How about, what about this morning we went to Macca's and I got an iced latte. I tasted it and I was like, oh, they've given me like an iced coffee, like a, some sort of, what are they called? Like a—

Tommy: It was an ice. It was just an—

Josh: Ice bro?

Tommy: But it tasted like it had can sweetened condensed milk in it.

Josh: Yeah, it was naughty as fuck.

Tommy: It was so sweet.

Josh: And so I wanted something fairly healthy.

Tommy: You want an iced latte? You wanted a latte with ice in it?

Josh: Yeah. No, and so I said, oh hey, like, I just wanted this, like, what's the deal? And she said, oh, we put like sweetener in it.

Tommy: That is bizarre. Mr. 97, I asked you to look up a couple of things.

Mason: The first one, so that the eating while you're driving, there's no law that specifies that you can't do it, but the driver has to have proper control of the vehicle at all times, which is where they get you. So they just say you, you, yeah, you don't actually have control because you're eating cereal.

Tommy: My fave, mate, my favourite time in the car was when I was driving down the Poon Highway, 80-kilometer road, 80 kilometres an hour speed limit. I look to my left, there's a guy laughing his head off, bowl of cereal in hand. Noise-canceling headphones on while driving the car.

Josh: Was he in a Tesla? No, but that's what's going to happen with all these self-driving cars. Yeah, it's actually not a bad idea. What other things did we ask?

Mason: You can literally just view the image when you sign in to view your fine. Yeah, you don't have to pay for anything.

Tommy: Just make it so easy for you, right? Just fucking NetBank it. It's horrible. I hate fines.

Josh: Oh, and, um, Uh, the, the tattoo, Hayden's tattoo.

Tommy: It's happening. We're just, we're just working out logistics.

Josh: I just wanted to close loops because I know that there's like, we say things and then we want to make sure that we're delivering on promises. So we're going to do it on Friday, uh, but there was issues with getting time with the tattooist in a small—

Tommy: in the space. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: So we're sorting out that, but I do like the idea of moving on this Gronkh gronk move idea.

Tommy: Gronk cards.

Josh: So maybe, yeah, so what we could do to start is we could get Ryan John and we can do a video where he's giving out gronk moves or gronk cards and we work out what it is.

Tommy: Yeah. Um, I think it needs to just say something on it, and so they're handed over and then he just walks off.

Josh: I think he needs to address the gronk move. Okay, so, and hi mate, so sorry, I just saw you spit into oncoming traffic or something. Yeah, don't you agree?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, especially people that park like—

Josh: What about this? What about on the train? Mate, so you didn't tap on. I don't work for Metro, so you're fine, but it is unfortunately a gronk move. I'm gonna have to give you that. That's pretty fucking good, isn't it? I'd love to do that. What other ones? What are some easy ones?

Tommy: Parking, 100%. You parked too far away from the curb, you've parked on an angle, you've over— like parked over 2 spots. Yeah, huge, huge cronk moves. Um, I mean, littering bins— bins, what do you mean?

Josh: Like, uh, people, uh, is it a cronk move if you're walking past a bin that is a residential bin that's going to go into someone's house?

Tommy: Yeah, look, if you're putting too much stuff in, if you're putting way too much stuff in, there's probably a bit—

Mason: dropping something in, that's fine. Yeah, but I dropped in an apple the other day to someone's bin.

Tommy: Yeah, so I don't think that's too bad. It's on the edge. It's half a unit. But if it's overflowing, if it's too full, like people are trying to put shit into people's bins when they're full. It would— so I've dealt with this. So my apartment block that I used to live in has the bins on the street. And so sometimes we'll come out there, fucking some asshole has just dropped in a bunch of shit. And it's so frustrating. Like, there's only so many bins. It's like 2 rubbish bins for a block of 6 apartments, 7 apartments. It's too much.

Josh: It feels like we're in a bit of a rubbish crisis at the moment in Australia. I think we actually are, aren't we? Is 97 just searching rubbish crisis?

Tommy: Plastic. The plastics, it's the exporting. I mean, we were just making it someone else's problem.

Josh: Someone else's, like a big business has gone under. And so there is a warehouse Full of rubbish, full of plastic bags.

Tommy: That's what I wanted to— it's in Dandenong. It was in the paper and it's like, we can go to Dandenong. Imagine if we found it, went full to the brim and we went up, just big gronkh card. We could definitely, um, I think they need to be the size that you can fit so we can always carry them. That would be good, other than being novelty size.

Josh: Yeah, it'd be good. What about like a notepad, like a notepad with like a, um, You've got glue on the top, so you like tear it off.

Tommy: It's like sticky note, sticky note, and then you can actually write out what the fine was. Yeah, so it's like a—

Josh: well, it shouldn't be for your writing.

Tommy: Yeah, then let's not do the sticky note, let's just go the bigger size cards. Okay, we can deal with them.

Josh: Um, I just had a thought when you talked about the Dandenong thing, the warehouse. I'd love to in the next year do the Daily Talk Show from an AusPost.

Tommy: Why?

Josh: In the back, I want to see how it all works.

Tommy: Nah, it looks boring. Looks so boring.

Josh: Sorting and all the stuff going on.

Tommy: Oh, it looks so boring.

Mason: Are you sure you want to go to the back of a post office or do you want to go to the sorting facility?

Josh: I want to go sorting.

Tommy: Sorting.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Yeah. No, no, no. I'm in for that. I just thought you meant at the local—

Josh: No.

Tommy: Okay. So the sorting facility would be sick. Also—

Josh: Where is the sorting facility?

Tommy: Yeah, there's a—

Mason: Isn't there one near, near the airport? I feel like there's one in—

Tommy: Tullamarine, you can go and pick up parcels from there, but maybe that's because it's international post, like stuff coming in.

Josh: Yeah, I saw a video years ago and I'd love to do it because I feel like it's come a long way, the technology since then. Someone sent a parcel in like a clear box and filmed the whole process.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it'd be illegal, don't you think? Filming all that shit. Like we were talking this morning about where you can film and what's okay. I would imagine because you're getting— it's a private business and it's being handled by individuals.

Josh: Time-lapse or something would be sick though. Anyway, if you, uh, if you've got a hookup at some form of—

Tommy: I would accept like a DHL, any sort of facility, as long as they've got big conveyor belts and, you know, where they're sending shit around.

Josh: I mean, I don't know how Could you imagine what the machinery would smell like? This is a bit sick.

Tommy: What's the machinery, though? What are they doing? What, you think they're doing it manually? You think they're doing it automatically?

Josh: Like letters.

Tommy: But how are they then seeing what's on them?

Josh: Well, at some point they're going through a chitcha. We don't know what it's actually doing, but it's definitely sorting something.

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, I'm fascinated.

Josh: Big, small, big, small.

Tommy: Because it seems it's an archaic industry.

Josh: Well, the whole letter, like, that's what's so bizarre about the whole thing.

Tommy: So how do they do it?

Josh: We will send something.

Tommy: I mean, we were filming at AusPost, the headquarters. Yeah, but we got our security clearance. No, there's no letters there because it's a big corporate building, but maybe we could weasel in through a few people, find a—

Josh: I feel like they'd be real funny about it.

Tommy: Same. Yeah. I mean, I'd rather go to the Mint.

Josh: What are the—

Tommy: the note printing place out in Nunawading where they print off the cash that gets sent out across Australia.

Josh: What are the other places? The other one would be like, like a carrier airline. Like one that's like—

Tommy: I've got it. It's been my dream for a long time. Yeah, I think I've mentioned this to you. When you look out into the bay, I mean, you might be at an ocean, you might be at the actual ocean, but here in Melbourne we've got Port Phillip Bay and that's what I'm looking out to. But you see coming from the docks these big cargo ships. I want to be on that. Think about the— like, what are you doing on a cargo ship? What do the rooms look like? What are you eating? What's the food like?

Josh: Yeah, why did you point at me?

Tommy: Because I knew I'd get you into it. Imagine, imagine the speaking to the chefs. Imagine—

Josh: can you type in the Volendam cruise?

Tommy: Volendam cruise.

Josh: I think it's like Volendam.

Mason: Volendam cruise.

Josh: Yeah. You found it?

Tommy: What is it?

Josh: Something— there's a word in front of it that I can't think of. MS Volendam. So anyway, when I was working at the Metropolitan Fire Brigade, I was in the media department and they had this— it's a Dutch ship, I believe, a Dutch cruise ship, and it was visiting Melbourne with like tourists. And basically they hook up with local fire, like on the odd occasion or whatever. All cruise ships, I think, have to do this. They basically run drills. So if there was a big fire on the ship, on the ship. And so all of the, the workers that were on the ship have to get into firefighting uniforms and having to put out a fire. And I filmed the whole thing. It was great.

Tommy: And so you went on to a cargo ship?

Josh: It wasn't a cargo ship, it was a cruise ship.

Tommy: Like a newish one that people would be drinking mocktails. This is the thing about ships.

Josh: You can look it up and see exactly what's it, what's What's the deal with MS Volendam?

Mason: It's a pretty primo cruise ship. They just— I don't know how your one came all the way to Australia, but you just book onto them and you can BBC Earth Experiences, Explore.

Josh: But there's only one, right?

Tommy: I mean, these things go all around the world. They're ridiculous.

Mason: Yeah, the cabins look insane.

Tommy: I just— I reckon you'd get so seasick.

Josh: Well, this year I've vomited on Spirit of Tassie. Very bad.

Tommy: So this would— how good would this be? It'd be great because I— we could, we could med you up.

Josh: Do you think I could get over it?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I— well, that's the whole thing.

Josh: I need to get a needle in the bum.

Tommy: Is that what they do? We'll get, we'll get you a needle in the bum and we somehow get our own little cabin in a work— like the workers' quarters. And imagine that, like, look how nice—

Josh: no, this is a problem. Cargo ships. Yeah, also going to be, um not set up for the personal experience.

Tommy: No, that's why.

Josh: That's why it's going to be—

Tommy: I mean, otherwise you're just having a privilege experience.

Josh: I mean, I sent a bunch of emails to airlines trying to fly first class. Podcasting first class is what I called it.

Tommy: Dirty Jobs, that show, I loved it because you're getting in amongst it and you're seeing— so the thing about the cargo ship is people live on those. That is their job. They're travelling around the world, coming into different ports, unloading. So like, it's— that's what interests me, is that these people have a life that's— that is that.

Josh: It's more like tradespeople. Yeah, I don't know, sort of a bit rough.

Tommy: I don't know, I mean, the wharfies— I mean, there has been back in the day down at—

Josh: can you look up DP World? So DP World is in, um, I think it's called DP World. There was another cool thing I got to do when I was at the fire brigade. I worked with the high angle rescue team training, and so we went off, they abseiled off the Sofitel in the city, and I filmed off the roof, which was sick. And then the other one was these massive cranes. Can you see it if you type it in, Mace? DP— is it DP World?

Mason: It's like a container Yeah, so those big—

Josh: but if you look at like Port Melbourne DP World, there's these huge cranes and you go up them and it's just got like grated flooring, like honeycomb style.

Tommy: They look like, uh, we call them giraffes. So from the distance, who's we? Me, Bodie, Amy, and I. We're like, oh, look at the giraffes, and they're huge.

Josh: So confusing for them.

Tommy: They look like it. No, mate, he would have more knowledge about animals than you, but it's not an animal.

Josh: A giraffe? No, the fucking crane.

Tommy: Yeah, but it looks like one.

Mason: It looks like those things from Star Wars in the snow. Those big—

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, there is something cool about living near the— I mean, we're planning on moving the show to the coast by 2025. Yeah.

Mason: Not a port though.

Tommy: No, not a port.

Josh: No, there will be no port in the sky. San Francisco, beautiful lake, sea.

Tommy: Yeah, it is kind of nice. I'd rather LA. Uh, yeah, that is the entrance into— underneath the bridge, underneath the Golden Gate Bridge is the ocean. So it comes in, into the bay. Yeah, San Francisco Bay.

Josh: Anyway, San Francisco is sick. If San Francisco was more affordable, that would be amazing.

Tommy: But we're going to take little baby there too.

Josh: It's ridiculous.

Tommy: 97.

Josh: Big roads, like, just like— and just like the hills.

Tommy: And it's the most bizarre city. We— when I was there in like off the back, you know, summer, and during the day stinking hot in t-shirts getting tanned. Next minute out for dinner in leather jackets because it's freezing. The fog had rolled in. So we walk out, walk out of this Japanese restaurant and you just see whipping around the corner, you can see the fog just like pouring around the corner. It looks like it's a horror film.

Josh: It's like something that's alive.

Tommy: Yeah, it's so cool.

Josh: Today we're actually live streaming as well on Instagram. 97. Any— oh, maybe you, TJ. 20 people.

Tommy: 20 people there. Yeah, 20 people.

Josh: 20.

Tommy: There's definitely 20 people. Uh, I'll see if any, uh, little things—

Josh: any comments or anything that you want to say before we go.

Tommy: Kroger said, did I miss the secret sound? Yeah, mate, you're fucking way too late.

Josh: No joke, how about this? Bree got a text message. Just turn it down. This is no joke. We've got a text message from a friend saying, hey, my sister heard that your boyfriend worked at Fox. Does he know the secret sound?

Tommy: Because it's $50 grand at the moment.

Mason: Yeah, I'm pretty sure someone won $100 the other day.

Josh: Literally, like, that was an actual text message.

Tommy: Hey.

Josh: And I said to Bri, I'm like, who the fuck is this? It's not even a joke.

Tommy: She know the number?

Josh: Huh?

Tommy: Some random number. Far out. Mate, they tell one person, or one person creates and they don't tell anyone else.

Josh: Well, Leon, our mate who's been on the show, has been the holder of the secret sound before.

Tommy: That's a lot of pressure.

Josh: But do you remember the guy in, I think it was in WA, that told someone the secret sound and got sent it?

Tommy: Yeah, got done walking. Anyway, next week, huge week on the Daily Talk Show, and then we're off to Sydney later in the week. It's going to be fun.

Josh: Yeah, a lot going on. Uh, it's a daily talk show. If you are enjoying the show, we do like when you leave Apple Podcast reviews because it helps us.

Tommy: You, you put up a post which got me a little emotional because I'd never thought about it like this, but you said the daily talk show has had more downloads this week than our first 6 months combined. Combined.

Josh: That's pretty crazy.

Tommy: That's so fucking cool. Yeah, I mean, we don't really stop too much. I mean, we look at the numbers and stuff.

Josh: We haven't gone to La Porchetta and celebrated.

Tommy: I know, that feels like it needs a La Porchetta.

Josh: Is there one in Bulleen?

Tommy: I don't know, mate, but I will find it in these moccasins.

Josh: So this is outrageous. You've got blue. These are ones that Amy got you for your birthday.

Tommy: Yeah, they're, um, they're Ralph Lauren.

Josh: What does Ralph Lauren moccasins cost, you reckon?

Tommy: $70. I asked her because I was thinking, oh fuck, how much have you spent?

Josh: You spent $400.

Tommy: I'd be so pissed. Um, last night, $70, still good.

Josh: Do you remember Grandpa's slippers?

Tommy: Put one on, put one on. They'll be way too big for you because you got such a tiny foot.

Josh: Go fuck yourself. Athlete's foot, uh, re-grammed it.

Tommy: Oh, oh, they're good, huh?

Josh: They're just nice and warm too.

Tommy: Yeah, they're, they're nice.

Josh: Anyway, it feels almost like a hot water, like they're wet but they're not.

Tommy: I went and picked up a pizza last night.

Josh: From where? Uh, Johnny Boys?

Tommy: No, down the end of— no, there is the best wood-fired pizza. We had the most amazing pizza, some joint. You'll come over and have it anyway at some point. But went down and I was in my moccasins and I was like, this is— I've moved to the burbs.

Mason: Was it Molino?

Tommy: Uh, wood-fired pizza? Yeah, yeah, that's it, that's it.

Josh: Yeah, good boulangère, guys.

Tommy: So good.

Josh: Anyway, uh, just quickly, when is the fire going to be set up?

Tommy: Uh, fire pit in a couple of weeks. A couple weeks.

Josh: Can we put a date on a time to actually end of the month, maybe do a show in an evening, live stream it by the fire?

Tommy: Yeah, fuck, that's a great idea. End of this month.

Josh: Um, what about like the jacuzzi?

Tommy: Maybe, hopefully have that set up too. So we'll do the fire and then we'll jump in the jacuzzi.

Josh: What needs to happen for the jacuzzi?

Tommy: No, it needs to be cleaned and then—

Mason: what do you fill it with?

Tommy: Water? Yeah, just grab the chlorine. We need a hose. There's a bunch of stuff we need and then you need a chemical. So there's like starter kit It's—

Josh: is it a permanent jacuzzi?

Tommy: Oh dude, it's fucking fenced off with glass in the corner, step up. It's so good.

Josh: I still haven't answered, is it a permanent one?

Tommy: That's it.

Josh: You can have a fence that's not permanent, like, but it's—

Tommy: no, but what? Hang on, tell me about the jacuzzi that you've seen that's not permanent.

Josh: Oh, you know, like the ones that are like a spa that's just like, that's like a box. It's like out of ground.

Tommy: But that's a permanent spa.

Josh: I guess.

Tommy: No, but that is—

Josh: that was there anyone on Instagram?

Tommy: So that's your—

Josh: what, deflection?

Tommy: Deflection. 20.

Josh: Yeah, but live.

Tommy: No, no, I read it all. I read it all.

Josh: Who did you read?

Tommy: Kroger, Secret Sound. That's how you started talking about Secret Sound. Anyway, I want my boot back. My foot is freezing. There was a couple of others.

Josh: I feel like 97 would be saying more.

Mason: Lara commented.

Tommy: Bree said hi. It's actually pushed out all of my— it's pushed them all out.

Josh: That's what happens, because that's why I'm asking 97. He would be able to scroll through, or I know he's not comfortable touching the phone while the livestream is going. Anything interesting?

Mason: Just moved it. Uh, Lara said, 'Gronkh, move some dickhead putting their freshly filled dog poo bag in my freshly emptied bin.' Ah, that—

Josh: now that is, that is Gronkh behavior.

Tommy: I mean, it's, it's going to go somewhere, but I get it, you don't want to You didn't choose to buy— have a dog that shits and you have to clean it up. And no, wrong move.

Josh: Any others?

Mason: Derek said hi. Scooter Derek. And Tiff said hi as well.

Josh: Hi, Tiff.

Tommy: Hey, Tiff.

Josh: Great.

Tommy: Amazing.

Josh: All right, uh, yeah, so please do give us a review if you've never done it before. Just go into the Apple Podcasts app, uh, go to The Daily Talk Show, click write a review, say something nice. We'll read it out on the show, and then, uh, it helps people know that we're something worth listening to sometimes, maybe. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. We'll see tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: See you guys.