3D-Dyl is back from Sydney, and we've got Trevor Long joining us to chat about the real cost of 3D-Dyl's champagne bath. We talk about 3D-Dyl's learnings, drunk decision making, and the updated hoodie sizes.
Show Notes
Trevor Long: https://www.instagram.com/trevorlongau/
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At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –Trevor Long coined "the Airbnb generation" to describe people who assume hotel minibar/room service items are free, like Airbnb fridge contents or Uber mints.
- –3D Dyl's first-ever hotel stay resulted in a $240 bill ($183 minibar, mostly alcohol, plus $57 room service) charged to Trevor Long's credit card.
- –The hosts' proposed "consequence" for Dyl was a paid one-minute live ad read on the show to help offset Trevor's cost, framed as the show's first sponsorship deal.
- –Impulse-buying products seen in Instagram ads (an all-mouth toothbrush, anti-motion-sickness goggles, a soda dispenser) are mostly "rubbish" despite slick marketing, per Trevor Long's Today Show segment.
- –Being drunk (on flights, nights out) correlates with poor spending decisions, a theme tied back to the credit-card/Airbnb generation discussion about not "feeling" money leave you.
Questions this episode answers
What does "the Airbnb generation" mean on The Daily Talk Show?
It's a phrase coined by guest Trevor Long to describe people (like designer 3D Dyl) who treat paid hotel extras—like a minibar—as free, the same way an Airbnb guest might eat whatever is in the fridge or an Uber passenger assumes water and mints are complimentary.
How much did 3D Dyl's Sydney hotel bill end up costing Trevor Long?
The total was $240, made up of $183 in minibar charges (mostly alcoholic drinks, including a $79 beverage) and $57 in room service, all charged to Trevor Long's credit card.
Why was Trevor Long on the Today Show before this episode?
He did a segment about buying random products advertised on Instagram—like an all-mouth toothbrush and a soda dispenser—spending around $300 and finding most items were low quality despite flashy ads.
Episode TranscriptShow
Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 424.
Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on?
Josh: Uh, Dylan is, uh, back in the building.
Tommy: Welcome back, 3D Dill. Wow.
Josh: We've also got, uh, we've also got, uh, Trev, uh, live from Sydney. Trev, yeah, uh, how you going, mate?
Trevor: What a great city this is. Just after Dill, he knows it.
Tommy: Oh yeah, some of the finest visual Visuals and also some of the finest tastes.
Josh: Yeah, absolutely. No, that was a beautiful shot. Where did you take Dill? Where did he go?
Trevor: Oh, you know what? Remember when Tommy originally said, I think you could do Sydney in a day, you could see the most sights? I actually sat for about 20 minutes before I picked up at the airport and I looked at the map and I thought, you know what? I reckon I can do a lot of it. So, we went to the north side of the harbour to look at the bridge and the Opera House. Then we went to Curability to look at the bridge and the Opera House and the city. We drove around kind of lower North Shore to get an on-the-harbour look at the kind of whole city. Then we went back to the other side, then to Bondi, and then back to Mrs. Macquarie's Chair to see a bit of the City and Botanic Gardens. I just basically went, "I want to give him all the Instagram porn on day 1." Yeah, right. So that he could just enjoy whatever he wanted to do on day 2. And I think we did okay with Insta porn.
Josh: Did you spitball on inspirational quotes to go with these? With the captions for the photos?
Trevor: No, you know what? I think he was a bit overwhelmed. I'd welcome Dyl's view here, but I genuinely think he was blown away. I genuinely think he was like, oh shit, this is actually much more impressive than I thought it was going to be.
Unknown: Yeah, it was 100%.
Tommy: It's the most impressive city in Australia. 100%.
Unknown: Easily.
Tommy: Just the harbour. And I mean, along with being the best. I mean, when I say best, I think it's most visually appealing to people outside of Australia, but then even impresses Australians. But it's also the most expensive city in Australia. I mean, I was just doing the maths then. There was probably about $45 of tolls on that one day for you, Trev. And then there's petrol because it's, you know, at least 50, 60 Ks there.
Josh: And Tommy is the classic— I've like growing up in the burbs, I just got used to tolls in a big way, right? It's just a part of doing—
Tommy: You haven't got used to tolls, Josh. You have not lived in Sydney. That's where you don't know anything about tolls. Tolls.
Josh: Tommy won't even do tolls in Melbourne. Like, I'm like, why the fuck are we going this way? He's like avoiding the tolls.
Tommy: I actually do.
Josh: And it's constantly long tolls. Have you changed your map settings?
Tommy: Yeah, I did that. It depends. I will avoid the tolls. The thing with Sydney is you can't avoid the tolls because it'll take you 4 hours to get from one side to the other.
Trevor: If it's in traffic, tolls are a hard thing to avoid. And the thing about this was, you know, I was keen to get Dil to Sydney and I used all, like, I used a lot of points to get him here. But I thought, you know what, I went to the airport and Sydney Airport is so fucked that I went into the quick pickup area. And if you don't have an eTag, so, you know, a toll tag on your car, which I didn't have because it was a loaner, you can't park in the quick pickup area. Like, it's all new. So I drive out of the car park and it was $9.97. I said to the bike man, I've just— I haven't even stopped. And he goes, did you pick anyone up? I said, no, I haven't picked anyone up yet. I avoided a $10 cost. Because I'm that stingy. Just at the airport. Didn't it escalate from fucking there?
Josh: Well, yeah, it did escalate. I think about half an hour before debt collectors could potentially come to your office. So we know that we've got only a short period of time, but we spoke about it on yesterday's show and we've put a snippet up on the Daily Talk Show's Instagram account.
Trevor: And look, I think critically I need to clear the air here because Because it was my credit card, I've got the actual bill.
Tommy: Okay, okay, this is mini Bargate. To bring you up to speed, Trev put Dyl up in a plush Sydney hotel, on point. So it's, you know, it doesn't feel like you've taken a hit to the hip pocket at this point, but you're going to put a credit card down when you stay at any hotel, and Trev did put his down.
Josh: Keeping in mind the amount of Velocity points that Trev used for this, you could get just about a return LA Or a kettle.
Unknown: Yeah.
Josh: Or a few kettles. So it's a significant trip. Yeah. The interesting thing is yesterday, 3D Deal, we had him on FaceTime. He was wearing sunglasses. One thing you couldn't see is the shame in his eyes, which we're seeing today. There's a lot of shame.
Trevor: When I checked, when we walked into the hotel, we parked the car and I said to the bloke, I said, I'm leaving, so don't— you don't need to take the car away. I'm just going in to cheque him in. And I thought, yeah, I'll do the right thing. I'm not going to— he's a guest. I'm not going to make him, you know, put a credit card down. I've stayed in a lot of hotels. I know the routine. So I walked up and said, here's my driver's license, credit card. Credit card, the name's under Dill, make it happen. I'm pretty sure he witnessed that. But now we learn he's never stayed in a fucking hotel.
Tommy: You know what it is?
Trevor: This, I'm calling it, this is the Airbnb generation. Yeah. Because in an Airbnb, when there's stuff in the fridge, you drink it and you eat it. That's like a, it's like, it's like in an Uber. They don't charge you extra for the water and the mints, right? Yeah.
Josh: It's just a, especially when you're driving Lux. Thank you to Uber Australia for hooking 3D Dil up there.
Tommy: I love the Airbnb generation. That's great.
Trevor: So that was what honestly didn't cross my mind. Yeah, but the best was then the— and that's what got this started. I sent Dil, because I said to Dil, I said, enjoy the room, send me photos, because I booked a suite. Like, it was a proper fucking room. I said, send me photos. And later in the night, he hadn't sent photos. I said, how's the room? He goes, oh, it's grouse, enjoying the room and the free alcohol. And I thought to myself, Hmm. And I saw the Insta story.
Josh: Wow.
Trevor: And then I listened to yesterday's show. So I rang the hotel and I said—
Josh: They've never received so many calls in their life. They're like, what has this dill guy done?
Trevor: As I rang, I thought, I wonder if they're going to start to wonder. Anyway, so I said, listen, it's my credit card. I told them the last expiry, the digits on the credit card, and they sent me the bill. Now, you had a calculation of $183. $57 for the breakfast. So $120 on the minibar.
Josh: Yeah.
Trevor: Let me bring you up to speed here.
Unknown: Okay.
Josh: All right.
Tommy: Here we go.
Trevor: I put this on Instagram. I think you've shared it already. There were two charges to the credit card. One of them was $183 and one of them was $57. So let me be clear. The room service was $57. Okay.
Josh: Yeah.
Trevor: The minibar was $183.
Josh: That's the cost of the entire fridge. No one has orange juice from the fucking minibar because that's what Bree was blown away. It's like, yeah, the orange juice and the shitty version. Yeah, like it's all like the combination.
Trevor: When I travel, I normally look for the nearest Quickie Mart and I go, I grab some orange juice, Coke, some Oreos, whatever, and I just take them back in a bag. Oh, it's, it's a shame. Like, I feel shame holding a grocery bag full of stuff that's in the minibar in a lift, but I'm like, dude, I'm not paying your cost. But I have bought chocolate So I'm cool with the odd $6 chocolate. That's what they were, $6. Now, the minibar doesn't give you specifics. It doesn't say cab, it just says minibar beverage non-alcoholic.
Josh: Yeah.
Trevor: And then minibar beverage alcoholic. The non-alcoholic stuff, we're talking $7, $6.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: The champagne that he didn't even like. How much is the champagne that he didn't like?
Trevor: There was 3 alcoholic drinks.
Josh: Okay. Yeah.
Trevor: The cheapest one was $11.
Josh: Okay.
Trevor: The second cheapest was $36. The real deal breaker here for Dill, and I'm assuming it was the champagne, was the $79 alcoholic beverage.
Josh: This is— and I mean, I've never, I've never had it. I've never had $79 champagne.
Unknown: Yeah.
Trevor: I've bought $79 Mowi for someone for their 50th anniversary.
Josh: I mean, Trev, have you ever had, I mean, you've stayed at a bunch of hotels. Have you had anything like this before where you've done this? Have you, like, can you share any Gronk stories?
Trevor: The worst. So actually last week in New York, I was crook as Rookwood. So I pretty much stayed in the hotel. I didn't go to dinner as much and I just got room service a couple of nights. The first night, I remember getting a steak and chips. It was just like, great. I needed proper food. Chips is total proper food. Anyway, I'm a good tipper when there's a thing that says, you know, tip and you just write it down. I'm fine with that. So, the bill came in, the bloke's standing there. It's a lot of pressure in room service because they hand you the thing. So, I go, okay, righty-o, I'll have that on there. And then the next night, I ordered something like real basic and I looked at the bill and went, How's it like $90? And then I realised gratuities were already included.
Josh: I thought Dyl must have been staying in the room and ordering some stuff.
Trevor: They charged me the meal, the taxes and the gratuity, and then I added a tip on and basically screwed myself. That's the worst thing I've done in a hotel.
Josh: I mean, that's the opposite. You've described overpaying the hotel.
Tommy: If there's one thing we've learned, it's that you're generous. My wife said to me last night, Is Trev well off? I think he does alright.
Josh: But I mean, it's— we get a sense, uh, the, the $9, uh, $9.50 to get a fucking park. You're thinking about those things. And Dyl, don't you think about these things too when it comes to like, uh, uh, your living expenses and stuff like that?
Unknown: Like, I'll, I'll debate between a $2.50 and a $3 jug of milk.
Trevor: That didn't fucking, didn't blink.
Josh: Anything about 70. Yeah, exactly.
Trevor: My favourite part of this though is that he did realise at some point because he saw the list. Well, he was fucking off his face at that point, and there was no conversation about it. Look, I'll be clear, I couldn't give a rat's— I don't care. Life goes on. I'm not rich, but definitely not now. It cost me $240 to bring the bloke to Sydney for the week, for a couple of days and have a good time. And I'm pretty sure he had the best time of his whole Australian trip. I'm just going to call it because it's the best city in Australia, but it's just fucking hilarious.
Tommy: It is unbelievable. What kind of— I mean, you've got two kids. If they grew— when they're grown up, if they did something like this, what's the discipline? How would you bring the law to them?
Trevor: This would be— I mean, this is weeks of pocket money. If they were still in pocket money territory.
Tommy: Yeah.
Trevor: If they weren't in pocket money territory, it'd be, you know, you're not driving my car for a month. Or, you know, that, that, you know, you can't let— you can't— this is critical parenting stuff. You can't let a kid do this and not learn from it, right?
Josh: Yeah, absolutely.
Trevor: I'm confident Dill's learned from it because now that I realize— but I had all that, like Tommy yesterday, you know, trying to think about what he could have done to, to, to preempt the concern. That's all I've done is I've gone, should I have been more clear that I put my credit card down just in case? You like, whatever. But Yeah, whatever.
Josh: I mean, what is the lesson for you, Trev?
Trevor: Look, the lesson is to be a little bit more careful with what I spend my credit card for random Canadians that I've met. But let's just put this together for a minute. Here's a dude that I've seen on the internet. I've flown him to Sydney, I've driven him around for 3 hours, and I don't do talking at the best of times with people. So that was awkward for me, just having a chat for 3 hours.
Josh: This is why you don't, you shouldn't hang out with people, Trev. That's what I'm learning.
Trevor: Spot on. And also let's, let's remember, this is a bloke I've met through people I've never met.
Tommy: The ultimate catfish.
Trevor: The whole thing is just like, I did have a moment where I thought, am I being scammed here?
Tommy: What did your wife say about this? Did you tell her about what's happening?
Trevor: Nah, we don't talk. You know, she said to me last night, cause she follows me on Instagram, that's the only thing she knows what's going on. She said to me, What's this daily talk show thing? I don't want to ask, it's just a fucking podcast, don't worry about it.
Tommy: Cut through to Trev's wife.
Josh: Well, I think that we, um, there should be some form of repercussion. Yeah, I think that parenting style, how I would do it— I'm not going to be a parent, but let me set it up. I want to start off by Dyl offering what he thinks the repercussion can be. Can I also first say, uh, we're very grateful, Trevor, what you've done, and big media company is going to fucking— you're going to invoice us for that amount and we're we're going to pay it because no, absolutely, it's fucking happening because you went above and beyond, let alone the tolls. Don't invoice us for the tolls. Fucking invoice us for all that shit and we're fucking great. Deal.
Unknown: Yes.
Josh: Consequences. What do you, uh, feel free to say anything, a bit of a rebuttal. Uh, yeah, I think his mum knows. Have you told your mum?
Unknown: Yeah, my parents are well aware.
Tommy: We got a lovely email from your grandmother last night, and I think she's a couple episodes behind.
Josh: She hasn't seen the shit hit the fan. She's complimenting the beanies.
Tommy: Yeah, and also our accommodating of her grandson.
Josh: So unless she's in sort of crisis control at the moment— You didn't receive an email, did you, Trev? No email. So, yeah, Dyl, what would you like to say?
Unknown: I don't think I really have much to say, to be honest. I mean, it was an experience, 100%. It was an incredible experience, and I'm incredibly and undoubtedly grateful to Trev for everything that he did, from picking me up at the airport to driving me around to organising the Uber services to pointing me in like the right direction. He's like, yeah, cheque this out. It's like, you'll want to go here, you'll want to go here, you want to take photos at this spot. But also for making the entire thing happen and flying someone out who he's never met through people he's never met and willing to take time away from his job and away from his family to spend time with me was incredibly— I don't even know how to describe it. Just incredibly amazing.
Trevor: And then he goes and cheats on me the next day by spending time with the other girl. Oh yeah.
Josh: We haven't even mentioned that.
Unknown: Oh yeah. Well, that's a whole other storey in itself. So, um, but, um, BMC, BMC will invoice you, Trev, and then I will—
Josh: no, no, Trev will invoice us.
Unknown: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Josh: We're invoicing you, Trev.
Trevor: No, no, no, let's not increase my cost. I appreciate your sentiment and I'm glad you had a good time. That's all I wanted was for the bloke to have a great time. And to be honest, it's a better time. He had a better time because frankly I reckon if I'd have known it was his first hotel stay, I would have told him to live it up on the room service. Do you know what I mean? It's actually worked out to be the perfect experience. And what I— I mean, I'm getting a little bit serious, but I don't want this shit, this fun little piss take we're having to actually take away from the fun Sydney experience, the hotel room, all that shit, because it was clearly an awesome, epic experience. So that's the best thing. That's why I have no concerns about it at all.
Josh: Okay, so Trev's playing good cop. Yeah. Well, I think what we— I think— did you have anything else you wanted to say, Dylan? No, that was it.
Unknown: That was pretty much it.
Josh: I think that what, uh, what we could also do— so I think BMC will cover that, all that sort of thing, that's fine. In regards, uh, to what you can do, Dylan, I think that there is, uh, tomorrow I think that we should have a 1-minute live read by you. Uh, Trev needs to tell us.
Trevor: $300.
Josh: Yeah, exactly, $300. Exactly.
Unknown: Yeah.
Josh: And so we're giving the 1-minute spot. Dil, you need to write, you need to find out what Trev wants to promote at the moment and write the script. And we want you to do the 1-minute live read tomorrow on the show. I think that that's the main thing.
Tommy: I mean, in my mind, I had our first—
Trevor: You're then going to invoice me for the remaining $60. Fucking hell, this is going to go.
Josh: Yeah, no, this is our first dollar made advertising.
Tommy: Yeah, I had—
Trevor: Your first ad is contract.
Josh: Well done. What do you think? Maybe we didn't talk about it.
Tommy: I appreciate it. I just had high hopes for our first sponsorship deal being one where we would actually make some money.
Josh: We're getting Dill to do it, so he'll be saying it. Yeah. Trying to think if there's anything else. I mean, you can't mow fucking your lawn or anything like that. Yeah.
Trevor: If there's any more points.
Josh: Look, I mean, you're in 3D printing. Any 3D printing need done?
Tommy: You're in the doghouse, Dill. It's, um, you'll be there for a couple more weeks before you fled the country. Uh, don't know if your, um, citizenship or your visa will be renewed. Come back here. No, but I appreciate you. It's probably what I would have done as a kid, and I, and I, I'm just much older now, and I fucking—
Josh: you would have actually fucking destroyed the room.
Tommy: Oh yeah, we were doing this at 17.
Josh: Well, literally, I was in— we went into a a Pullman that we were filming like a year ago, and you said, oh, my mates have trashed one of these rooms, which is not ideal. You were 17.
Trevor: I said, yes, ironic given it was a Pullman Hotel.
Josh: Exactly, I know. So we're just sort of the Daily Talk Show gronks live on.
Tommy: Yeah, I mean, once a gronk, always a gronk. This is what happens.
Trevor: How many Uber vouchers have you got left?
Unknown: I've got $91 left.
Tommy: And you didn't use it to get from the airport back to your accommodation last night?
Unknown: What do you mean?
Tommy: Last night, so when you got to Melbourne to get home?
Unknown: No, I felt, I felt sick from all the food, so I was like, I need to walk it off a little bit.
Trevor: So you walk from Tullamarine?
Unknown: No, no, no, walk from Southern Cross.
Josh: Yeah, so he's still got his— he's keeping his facts. He holds on to shit, doesn't he?
Trevor: I just, I mean, you remember yesterday he listed all the things he ate in the Virgin Lounge, uh, in Melbourne?
Tommy: Yeah, that was actually just your food list.
Trevor: But like he said, I don't think he mentioned, but he said to me that he ate so much when he sat down on the plane, the bloke sitting next to him asked him if he was okay.
Tommy: Really?
Trevor: That's how much he ate.
Unknown: I felt so full. I was like, I'm— if this plane goes through wicked turbulence, I'm going to vomit. Yeah, I didn't vomit.
Trevor: How do you eat that much?
Josh: Yeah, it's the— this is the thing, because even if you knew that the minibar was free, I don't know if I like— even me with my horrendous eating habits and slight eating disorder, it's a stretch. Like, there's certain foods, like for instance, if there was a packet of Tim Tams, I would eat every fucking Tim Tam, right? No doubt. But just switching from orange juice to fat, like, just, oh, what else have we got? Oh, there's a little fucking cup of milk, I'll fucking scalp that. There's something, um, there's a— there's a— there was a devil inside of Till.
Trevor: Um, but I think you haven't been feeding him for— yeah. I mean, he's just on a rampage.
Josh: Yeah, mate. What have you— deal— what, like, you've had time to reflect now and you've had people reaching out to you and all that sort of thing. What has been the thoughts and lessons?
Unknown: Hmm, what have been the lessons? Less— I think the, the main lesson is to always, like, practise gratitude and be grateful, because an opportunity like this doesn't happen to very many people very often. Yeah. Where someone's willing to go way out of their way to give someone else this experience.
Tommy: Um, just had a flashback from, um, Home Alone New York City where he puts the credit card payment down and just trashes the hotel room, eats everything. It's very— it's the same as that.
Unknown: It's pretty—
Trevor: it's very Home Alone-ish, isn't it?
Tommy: It's very Home Alone. That kid was 4.
Josh: Trev, thank you so much for looking after, after Dill, our son.
Trevor: Seriously glad he had a great time. I'm glad we got the tick on the Sydney bucket list because, you know, I'm confident it's a better place to look at. It's probably not a better place to live or stay. I don't know.
Tommy: It's more expensive. It is more expensive for sure.
Josh: I feel like maybe— what about Dill? When you're in your 30s or 40s or whatever.
Unknown: Yeah.
Josh: You need to fucking invite Trev to Canada.
Unknown: Oh, anytime Trev's in Canada. Okay, great. Here more than I bet.
Tommy: Pay your own way there.
Trevor: Yeah, look after yourself.
Josh: Yeah, but he will, yeah, he will take you for a coffee.
Trevor: Yeah, but I know I'll send a, I'll send my food list so that, uh, if Dill's mum's, uh, cooking a home-cooked meal, it's perfect.
Unknown: Yeah, 100%.
Josh: Uh, thanks, Trev. What, you were, you were on the, um, Today Show this, this morning. I was curious about it. So it was about buying shit on Instagram.
Trevor: Yeah, I, um, hang on, just one sec.
Josh: Right here we go.
Trevor: I, um, I bought a toothbrush on Instagram like, oh no, 5, 6 months ago. It's, uh, it's an all-mouth toothbrush, right? Oh, put the whole thing in your mouth. So you have all these Instagram influencers using these things going, it's amazing. It cost me like $100. It's rubbish, like utter rubbish. So I just started buying stupid things on Instagram, like these goggles that stop you from getting motion sick if you're a kid.
Josh: Oh, that's great.
Trevor: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my favourite one— oh, it's not in here— is a drink dispenser for you. Put a 1.25-liter Coke in and it's like a tap for Coke. It doesn't work. It'll pour one drink and then it'll pour no more. So yeah, it was a bunch of fun. I literally spent $300 on that segment, more than I spent on Gil.
Josh: And so the Instagram buy thing, can we actually do it now? How can you put your credit card details and just start buying shit?
Trevor: No, you know what? It was mostly stuff. It wasn't really Instagram buying. It was just ads in the feed and I could click through. And to be honest, it is pretty seamless once you've done one or two. Most of them use the same backend, so it's just like click the PayPal button and you've, you've got it. So yeah, it was just stuff I'd seen on the internet and I was just trying to make the point that there's some fun ads out there, like the ads for them make them look amazing. But to be honest, it's mostly rubbish.
Tommy: Yeah, it's just, it's all sizzle. It's all, it's all sizzle.
Josh: I mean, wise words from Trev.
Trevor: Yeah.
Tommy: Thanks, Trev.
Josh: Mate, thanks for coming on the show. AFTM.com.
Trevor: Glad you had a good time, Dill.
Unknown: It was amazing. Thank you so much.
Josh: And you actually, when you come to Melbourne, Trev, you actually need to let us know.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah. Look, look, don't take first impressions and what's happened as a reflection of Josh and I. Yeah, you know, we're older, we've been through that.
Trevor: We had a good time, we're square.
Josh: Once we do the live raid. Yeah, yeah, perfect. Oh, when Dill does. It's a daily talk show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com. I'm actually curious if there are people who have, um, had an experience like this where they've just fucking been overcharged on hotels, because I feel like the, um— I'm sure it's happened to me. I'm sure there's dumb shit that I've done specifically in hotels because you're just in this different—
Tommy: well, kids are doing it. It's a kid.
Trevor: It's—
Tommy: Jill's a big kid. He's a big kid. Yeah, because imagine kids doing this, just ordering shit while mum and dad have gone down. To the pokies.
E: Yeah, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure someone ordered through like Google Home because you can order stuff off eBay or Amazon or something. That might have been Alexa, but they ordered a bouncy castle and got it delivered to the house. It was something like 5 grand.
Josh: Fuck, we need to disconnect the Google Home from the office because, uh, yeah, I mean, I think that, yeah, the dumb purchases are only going to become more and more of a thing as it gets easier. It's people— there's the, there's the buttons on Amazon, the smart buttons where you press it and it will order more. What are they called?
Trevor: Amazon Dash.
Josh: Amazon Dash. And so every time, like, you'll have these buttons up near your laundry or whatever. So if you're running out of detergent, you'll press it. And there's been storeys of kids going up and just pressing it 100 times. Yeah. And they get a knock at the door and there's a Prime truck.
Tommy: Amazon Prime truck.
Josh: Yeah, not ideal. It's a daily talk show. It's a— it's been a short one. Was that what you were looking at?
Tommy: Well, I'm looking at the time. I thought we're just saying bye to Trevor. Trev and continue.
Josh: Okay, we can do that. Trev's got more important things to do.
Tommy: Yeah, exactly. Go the rest of the show. The debt collectors are there. There they are.
Josh: Thanks, Trev. But we actually want to get to Sydney before the end of the year, I reckon, too.
Tommy: Oh yeah, I'm going. Oh yeah, I'm going later in the year. I've got to go.
Josh: Well, I've got to go.
Tommy: Family.
Josh: I've got to see Trev. Basically family. Thanks, Trev.
Trevor: We'll see you, buddy.
Tommy: I, um, that, that thing that Trev had, the, the, um whole mouth teeth cleaner.
Josh: It's like a bleach. It looks like one of the ones that turns off.
Tommy: It's a, it's a mouthguard essentially with a ball on the end of it that must sort of rattle it. But I legit was like, why isn't this invented? And there's a reason why people don't use them, because Trev just said they're pieces of shit. Because I was like, I hate having to fucking just like— it's annoying. But if you could just put a mouthguard in and it just cleans your teeth, it'd be so fucking sick.
Josh: Yeah, you would need like some— you it would, the brushes would have to actually move.
Tommy: Well, that's what it would, it would vibrate or do something.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: But that's it. I mean, it's always great to have a friend like that that actually makes these purchases before you. I'm quite alarmed, Dil. I mean, upon reflection, you'll probably have more to say, but right now, yeah, you're still coming down from the alcohol high.
Trevor: Yeah, exactly.
Josh: I can still smell it.
Unknown: I was, I was, I think I was buzzed from the moment that I got to the airport. That all throughout the plane, all throughout the afternoon, all throughout the evening. Woke up, I was like, oh, not drunk anymore. And then got back to the hotel and I was like, oh, there's just more alcohol.
Josh: Oh, because you— so this is part of it, because you were drinking in the lounge.
Unknown: I was drinking all day.
Josh: Yeah. And so that's part of it. That's the reason why you fucking did the minibar.
Tommy: Some of the worst choices I've ever made have been when I'm drinking. Yeah, you definitely do. I mean, waking up and just thinking 'Oh, what did I do last night?' It's not a good place to be in. And I— so I get the feeling where you just— I know what you're feeling, Dil. Um, not taking away from what you've done, but, uh, I'm sure in hindsight down the track you'll, you'll look at it a bit differently.
Josh: How much alcohol did you have at the lounge?
Unknown: Not a lot. I just had a glass. Uh, which lounge?
Josh: Uh, Melbourne. Because there's the guy next to you Anyone to say, are you all right, mate? You need to be at a bad fucking point.
Tommy: Oh, yeah. For any rando to just say that, I wouldn't even say that.
Josh: Like, you're either like rocking or like there's something full on that was going.
Unknown: I must have been flushed or something because I felt hot. I had the Daily Talk Show hoodie on.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Good repping.
Unknown: And I had the beanie on, so I probably looked red and looked a bit flushed.
Josh: I feel like if you were red and flushed No one's gonna—
Tommy: no one said anything.
Unknown: I was just leaning over, I was like, just breathe. I'm trying to concentrate. I'm trying to just keep myself together.
Tommy: Because they might have thought that you were like scared of flying.
Unknown: Yeah, like flight anxiety or something.
Josh: Did you talk to the guy on the, on the plane while you were flying?
Unknown: No, I just said, no, I'm all right, just had a bit too much tea. He's like, oh, I've done that before. Fair enough.
Tommy: So he was in 2A or whatever.
Josh: Oh, sorry, no, 1B.
Unknown: 1B.
Tommy: 1B.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Yeah, nice.
Josh: What was he wearing? What was his— what did he look like? A business guy?
Unknown: Or, uh, kind of like very full, slightly greyish brown beard, uh, glasses, bigger, heavier set guy, um, some weird kind of navy vest over top of like a cheapish looking dress shirt and some dark, dark pants.
Tommy: And he's probably, he's probably really rich, but he just understands where you spend money.
Trevor: Yeah, I just love that.
Josh: I love the business chat. That's 'Oh, you overate, did you? I've done that before. How many toasties did you have?' It's pretty, it's pretty outrageous.
Tommy: It's a pointy end conversation just from the lounge. You've eaten too much.
Josh: I mean, have you, um, like, I haven't been a drinker being on a flight. I've had one champagne because like Bri and I got upgraded once, which is fucking great, from economy to premium economy to LA. Awesome. And so it was like, I think we had some champagne, they just like offered it to us. Have you been absolutely plastered on a plane?
Tommy: Oh, the last flight to New York that I did last September when we went to see Seth, I drank 5 bottles of little mini bottles, but they're still 1.6 standard drinks. So 5, it's like a fuckload of drinks.
Josh: And so do you think, do you think that being pissed Things like buying shit. Like if you're pissed and have a credit card—
Tommy: Mate, this is why young people are spending all of their wage on the weekend.
Josh: Because they're just getting—
Tommy: Because I remember my mate who was an apprentice used to just come out with a full tray of shots and it would have been half his weekly wage and he'd shout everyone. And it's— And he wouldn't do that in a sober state.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: And so I've looked at my credit card the next day, like I've spent $600 on a night out. It's so stupid. Yeah, drink. I mean, I've saved a lot of money this year from drinking. You don't—
Josh: that's not saving.
Tommy: You don't actually see it. It's not like I've taken it, oh, I'll buy a drink. But then that would be the good idea, right? Yeah, actually go to the pub and as you're handing over the cash, put it into your pocket and put it into the piggy bank and buy and take— get a water instead.
Josh: That'd be so annoying though. Very annoying. Yeah, mate, that's just not—
Tommy: no, no, not for me.
Josh: Actually change it to a water. Well, what am I going to do with this beer?
Tommy: Do We'll take it.
Josh: Yeah, I'll take it.
Tommy: The credit card generation too, seeing, not seeing purchases, like not feeling the money leave you.
Josh: Oh, definitely.
Tommy: And then have like, yeah, it's bizarre. It's bizarre. I think Trev hit it on the head, Airbnb generation. I love that. It is so true.
Josh: Mr. 97, have you ever made, you're very sensible, cautious with your money, putting a lot of money away to super. Our accountant even called it out as potentially silly.
Tommy: Who puts 50% of their wage into super and who does it after Barefoot says not to do it? Yeah.
Josh: I mean, yeah.
Tommy: Ask the Barefoot investor.
Josh: Literally Barefoot was in the office and I said, 97, oh, this is a good opportunity. Ask the questions to Barefoot. Barefoot's like, nah mate, don't do that. Do X, Y, and Z. Barefoot leaves, 97's like, bullshit.
Tommy: I have thought about, I even told my dad, and he's like, geez. The thing is, superannuation is you cannot touch it. You cannot get that money back. So if you need a house deposit, you can't pull money from your super. I don't know, maybe he's running off a trust fund. We don't fucking know.
Josh: He's absolute baller. So have you ever, mate, what's the silliest thing that you've done?
E: I don't think I've ever bought any. I mean, look, you buy all these stupid little cheap things, but I've never done a stupid big purchase.
Tommy: Big purchase. Big, physically big. Remember when you bought that server rack? Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
E: There was, there was a massive— I wanted to get a server cabinet that holds a bunch of servers, and, and I found one on eBay for a dollar, and, and so I bought it. Uh, it was like an auction, and I paid a dollar for it, and I didn't actually think about how to ship it to my house, and Mum and Dad didn't want it there either, so Because it's huge.
Josh: And so what is that?
E: It's like, it's like 2 meters, 2 metres tall and like a metre wide. And I was like, they're just like, where are you going to put this? I was like, I don't know, it was a dollar.
Josh: And so what's the, um, what was the shipping cost? Is that how they—
E: No, I just cancelled the order. Okay, I cancelled. I messaged him, I was like, oh, sorry, mate, you can't, can't post it.
Tommy: I mean, how low, how low impact is that? Stupid purchase, but it was only a dollar.
Josh: Yeah, I mean, has your mum ever— because you've got access to your mum's cards at times Has there been any point where she said, uh, Mason, like, why did you spend— I've just got this payment that's hit the card.
E: I mean, they, they questioned the peanut butter the other day.
Josh: Okay, how many peanut butters did you get?
E: Uh, 7. I've got 17 in the cupboard right now.
Tommy: 17? Yeah, I mean, that's got to be a reason.
Josh: I think it's anything in bulk.
Tommy: The guy who puts 50% of his income into super is also the guy who buys 17 in jars of peanut butter for the future.
Josh: He's thinking future.
Tommy: He's a future thinker. I once was hanging out with this girl and she had her dad's black Amex and they're like, they're like slate or they're like some, they're like metallic sort of metal. I bit it. I was like, ah, because we're just like saying it's fucking hard. Anyway, they're like no limit. You could buy a Porsche on it. Like you could just fucking go into a dealership. Like they're unlimited, right? And she would pay for everything. Everything. And she'd just pay for dinner, there'd be a bunch of us, boom, and her dad just would have got the bill.
Josh: What about, uh, we're chatting to a mate about private jets the other day, and he was saying he was talking to a guy who, um, is a private chef for a bunch of big celebrities. And, uh, the way that it works is, uh, the chef does a lot of the purchases on his credit card and just gets reimbursed, so he gets a crazy amount of points.. And it's to the point where sometimes he'll be on the private jet and they'll stop for fuel. They've run out of fuel, like they need to fill up. And the pilots will ask, oh, can we just use your credit card? And they will pay $120,000 on the credit card to fill up the jet.
Tommy: Jet fuel.
E: That's crazy.
Tommy: Yeah, it's an expensive vehicle. Yeah. Geez.
Josh: Either way, the private jet thing doesn't excite me at all. Have we spoken about this already on the show?
E: No, not private jets.
Josh: It doesn't— it— because it was a big topic that Grant Cardone— Cardone. Yeah. Geez, it's such a—
Tommy: I've got no problem saying it. I've got it in my head. Grant Cardone.
Josh: Cardone.
Tommy: 10x.
Josh: 10x. I just remember 10x. But anyway, he was at that conference that we went to. He was speaking and he was very much all about the private jet.
Tommy: Yeah. He's flaunting the lifestyle though. I'm sure I'd be excited if we had got onto a private jet. I mean, the thing about owning a private jet— think about owning your car. Think about the thought that goes into owning a car, the anxiety that you have going to a place.
E: Private jet insurance.
Tommy: Oh, imagine all of that. Like, you think about— this is the thing, people who are rich probably aren't even thinking about that. They have someone else think about it. So they pay, money comes out of their account, they don't think about it. We're not there yet. So it'd be annoying.
Josh: We're not there yet.
Tommy: We're not there. Very annoying for us to think about any of that. But I would like to go on a private jet.
Josh: But I think I think it's small. Like, it's probably more likely. I feel like the stats would be more likely to crash.
Tommy: I was thinking about Grant in his jet and I was thinking about he was flying the next day or he's flying that day to New Zealand. I was just thinking about, yeah, you being in the small little cabin, it would feel like you being in a big plane, it makes you feel a bit— I feel more safe.
Josh: Well, it's like, oh, we're all going to die. Like, it's like, fuck, there's like a few hundred of us. You know what I mean? Like, the thing is, if an A380 fucking crashes in Melbourne, Big story. Big, big story.
Tommy: There's not— there's never— I don't know a plane, like one of the big planes that have gone down from the Melbourne to Sydney route. I mean, these planes are 100 years of technology, right? It's amazing how they don't go down more.
Josh: Yeah. I mean, yeah, like the idea of aviation is, is magical.
Tommy: It's bizarre. Yeah, it's fucking cool. I mean, you see why people are, you know, freaks about it. They love it. They just get into every little detail.
Josh: Well, that's the thing I appreciate with Trev is he was doing Insta storeys and stuff of the uh, what, when he was picking up Dill, videos of the planes. Yeah, he fucking knows them all.
Unknown: That's just, it's tracking that he has the, uh, like the flight tracker app on his phone so he can see like what each plane is, like its call number, where it's going, where it's coming from.
Josh: What did you talk about in the car?
Unknown: Everything. Like quite literally everything.
Tommy: Really?
Unknown: Like remember when you guys picked me up from the airport back at the beginning of this whole adventure?
Josh: We didn't talk, we just were silent.
Unknown: No, we know, we talked a lot. We talked about, um, um, good question.
Josh: Yeah, I can't remember. What were you talking about with Trev? What was the, what was this, the solid banter? What did you guys really connect over?
Unknown: A lot about Sydney versus Melbourne. Um, we talked about the footy, how footy is just outrageous and there's, it doesn't make sense, which I was like, all right, I don't really know much about it. Uh, talked about rugby. Um, Ubers, weird Uber experiences. I can't remember much of that conversation, um, because you were drunk a little bit. I was still— I was still—
Josh: what sort of car was he driving at the time? Because he gets some pretty nice cars.
Unknown: It was— it was an Audi A7.
Tommy: Nice.
Unknown: 55 Turbo, I think, something like that. Trev will have to re-figure that out because I'm actually not 100%. I'm trying to find a photo of it because I took a photo of it.
Tommy: That's right, expensive petrol is all else. Yeah, and then the data using at the airport, trying to take photos.
Unknown: All digital dash on the inside, like no, no physical buttons. It's all haptic feedback and everything.
Josh: That's nice.
Unknown: Real intense.
Josh: Yeah, that's very cool.
Tommy: Oh well, hey, um, one last thing. Hoodies are flying out the door, the Daily Talk Show hoodie. Do you want one?
Josh: Yeah, well, I actually, um, I did an Insta storey last night. Yeah, because like we're getting a fucking bunch of orders and I put up a, um, we'll put it up on the website too. People asking about the sizing and shit. We have like a whole sizing chart.
Tommy: Uh, Gondi messaged me and says, what size are you wearing?
Josh: Me or you?
Tommy: Me. He messaged me.
Josh: It's always interesting, isn't it, when someone says, hey, what size is so-and-so, or you, like, you sort of, you get to see where people's body dysmorphia or where they're at in regards to what they—
Tommy: well, I might be wearing a large. I could wear a large.
Josh: You're wearing it out. You're wearing it right in.
Tommy: Yeah, this is medium though. I just like to—
Josh: I like it tighter, you know. I'm wearing large. It's got that sort of, sort of the baggier thing.
Tommy: Actually, the other thing, hoodies, most people like hoodies to be baggy, but you don't. Yeah, I'm saying most people. I'm not most people.
Josh: But, uh, Scooter Derek, I was on his, um, his podcast yesterday, and it's all about, um, what does he call it, the good paddock, I think it is, which is, uh I don't know the exact tagline, but something like you've either got to be a— this is his words— a fatty, past fatty, or someone who's an expert on fatties. And so I'm— or you are worried about being fat in the future or some shit. But so I tick most of those boxes.
Tommy: And he may have made up that last one because you're actually—
Josh: that's you.
Tommy: That's just your internal dialogue.
Josh: But he He— when I came into the studio, he was, um, not happy at the sizing that we had available on the daily talk show. What was the, the max size that you put up?
E: Extra large.
Josh: Mate, a lot of people, uh, like— and what's the smaller size that you put up?
E: Small.
Josh: Because the thing is, like, there's AS Color, like, there's— it goes down to like like 2, uh, 2XS, and like on the other end it's like 4XS.
Tommy: The thing is, you can't make everybody happy.
Josh: Amy, they just fucking— all you have to do is add more. Like, we're getting them printed on demand.
Tommy: She had to— she has to do some of the ordering for the uniform. There's a guy that there is no size that fits him. He's at fucking XXXL or 4XXXL.
Josh: But that's the thing, but you can— if the sizing is available, we should just have it on the website.
Tommy: Yeah, but I mean, it's like the annoyance of going to a shop and not seeing the right size, you know.
Josh: It would be fucking annoying. Think about it. Yeah, like, you— like, if I'm— like, when I'm, uh, when I was 3XL or whatever, uh, like, we're essentially saying, oh no, you can't have a hoodie. Which, like, I don't think this is the debate. I don't think this is— you could wrap it up in fucking debates around, like, oh, people buying extra seat on the plane.
Tommy: We're all trying our best. We're all trying our fucking—
Josh: that's what I mean. Let's fucking open it. Like, if we know anything about the Gronk Squad, it's like fucking open to to every croc. So let's just get every fucking size that's available.
Tommy: So then this is the, this is the thing. If you, you can add that in, but if you have a specific order that you want to actually put through and we can generate it—
Josh: well, Mace can literally just put in the extra sizes, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll just do that.
Tommy: You fucked up. Yeah, you fucked up.
Josh: That's fine. Well, I think that's what he said.
E: So the thing is, well, now the image has to go like the sizing guide because you can't— if you add more options, where do you sit fit, you know what I mean? So if you've got extra small, extra extra small, am I a small or a medium?
Josh: That's why you have the sizing chart.
E: Exactly. So now, yeah, exactly. So we couldn't have done it from the start anyway unless we had the sizing chart up there because it just would have been—
Tommy: we're moving fast, we're Grant Cardone-ing, 10x-ing. I mean, we're actually at negative 10 right now thanks to Dyl, but, um, we'll get there, we'll get back up to 10x.
Josh: Yeah, but we'll get there.
Tommy: But if you do want one, $60 if you're in Australia, there is extra shipping if you're outside of Australia and it will tell you on the site, thedailytalkshow.com/hoodies.
Josh: But I think that people, well, I call bullshit when I'm like doing the post. I'm always like, ah, looks like I'm trying to fucking like create some form of hype or demand being like, but the reality is we're literally like getting on Monday all the orders and we're printing them and then we're not fucking doing it for a while. Yeah. Like, well, I can't imagine we're going to Australia, we're going to summer and all that sort of shit.
Tommy: Yeah.
Unknown: Yeah.
Tommy: And we're trying to work to pay off the debt, the DILF.
Josh: Yeah, exactly.
Tommy: Accumulated.
Josh: One lawn of time. Uh, it's a daily talk show, so you can just go to thedailytalkshow.com/hoodies. Yeah, we put it in our Instagram bio so you can click on the link. It's on the home page, click through.
Tommy: Yeah, it's everywhere.
Josh: Yeah, it absolutely is. But they're comfy as fuck. I think I might actually need to get another one just so I can, um, have them on rotation because I plan on wearing it every single day.
Tommy: There's a couple more over there, so we have actually have a few good to go, but you gotta pay for them, mate.
Josh: Yeah, okay, that's cool. Let's— we'll talk about that.
Tommy: This is the, the candle discussion. I actually took one of Amy's candles So Amy's actually—
Josh: What do you mean?
Tommy: Taking a hit to her profit on her candles that she makes at home because I took one.
Josh: Did she bring that up after you talked about candles?
Tommy: No, no, no. I just talked about the, you know, working out the actual money you make. It's very easy when they're there, when they're there. It's like going to a cafe, right? And your mate owns it. It's like someone's actually paying for the coffee that gets given to you for free.
Josh: Your mate is. Don't be a gronk, pay for the fucking coffee. But also it's like the fundraisers, you know, Cadbury fundraisers and shit. When I was a kid, we were one of the fundraiser box families that would put in a fucking, yeah, pineapple or whatever, a 50, and you just fucking help yourself. Bad, isn't it?
Tommy: Exactly what happened at my house.
Unknown: No idea.
Josh: It's a daily talk show. I hope you enjoy the rest of your Wednesday, guys, and we'll see you tomorrow.
Tommy: See you guys.
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