- August 9, 2019
Happy Fat Friday! We chat about Josh’s coffee addiction, reading out aloud and monetising the show.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– Having too much coffee
– Addiction and overdoses
– Our Fat Fridays order
– Tips for reading things out-loud
– Dan’s AFL advice
– Pre prepared and packaged food
– Monetising the show
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 419 happening guys fat Friday. I'm excited because we got three day deal to organise it.
Yeah, yeah. I mean it's not that we left at the last minute still we we like and we understand that you're a capable young man. I try my best task focused,
but also we weren't that organise it
today. We sent you a little wild goose chase. Yes, you did. And what do you got for us? I'm just really hungry. To be honest. What
this is, I was telling you before I've overdone the coffee, which I know you don't want to hear a broken record. I mean, we were doing a lot around here. We're just wherever doing the coffee. Did you? Do you ever feel like you could say something about
me overdoing the coffee? That
was me over you saw me having the coffee? I'm not blaming. Yeah, to be honest. To be honest. We had two strong Larter. Yeah,
yeah. And are you
79 and then I had a big mouth.
The thinking happens so fast, right. So you walked upstairs with your big coffee mug. And I looked over and I couldn't see inside of it. But I had just four feet. I was like to have more coffee, because I was like, I'm at my limit. I feel a bit anxious. This guy is just back in charge at the stake. at a fast pace with a full cup of something. I thought he must be getting water. The thing is, I made myself feel better by thinking that you were getting more
as a format. It actually remind like, I was actually having a response to what Rose is like a bit out of body. Yeah, he reminded me earlier in the week we had someone fucking od. Od if they don't die.
Yeah, I don't know if it's the same as drowning.
You know, if you get drowned, or you're electrocuted. You did? Yeah. It's what we have dancing. The journal. Dan, you're sitting in on the show is do you know if that if you od? Does that mean that you die?
I don't believe so. Because you overdose. That's just That's it? Yeah. with you. Because I think you can die from an overdose. Yeah, that's I think that's a technical
technical term. Well, so we had like, literally, we had someone screaming.
It was a spooky moment. Have you guys been thinking about it a lot.
Now early, early when I got home I went and spoke to like mom, and they also have my day was it was great until
let's try to press it.
Yeah. Now but other than that, I haven't I haven't thought about you haven't
No, three days. I've thought about it. But I've been in situations similar. Like I've seen that before, to the point that it doesn't affect me anymore. The first time I saw something like that, I was the first time I saw someone on heroin and back home in Toronto. I was like, that's it freaked me right out
first popi you kill? You feel it the second, not
what I was thinking about. I don't know, necessarily, if I want to get used to it
yet. But I don't think there's anything to get used to. I think it's a human response to feel something and feel emotional about it.
So there's a there's a woman laying on the ground, unresponsive, and her partner screaming on the top of his lungs. While he's screaming. He's also injecting himself. He ran
off from his wife who was on the ground dying, having an overdose. And he didn't this little corridor and started injecting himself which is just yeah, that is a snapshot of addiction and how it's so fucking gripping on an individual because your wife's dying. And he's still thinking that that's the best option for the at the moment.
But he because I was curious about this, whether they would have been weird about emergency services coming. But he was literally saying to the Thai supermarket. He's like, if a fucking ambulance doesn't come here, now I'm backing down. I'm going to get you like
just being erratic. I don't know if there's much truth that he's just flipping out. And I
don't know whether it's true. I know. They might not be fucking direct to any of it.
But it's literally what we're saying. But what was interesting is everyone was like, not taking him serious about that shit. They're just like, it's happening. We're on the phone. One of them handed the phone it's I mean, the thing is, deal I know you say it doesn't make you know you don't think much about it. There is a hardness that happens when you are in those environments where Yeah, you just taking it on? I mean, what we were thinking is the am bows and how they handle the situation it is It's so fucking amazing what they can do. What they rock up the presence that the focus of the moment it's like you know, john, just take the
shot you know, getting these name and just take the sharp out of your arm. He's he's screaming as he's got a needle out of he's hanging out of his arm. Yeah, she was she was for the craziness of it is
just dying going blue. Yeah. And then
she they they injector was something I think,
yeah, they did a bunch of stuff. And yeah, they didn't inject it like literally counteracts the effects of the heroin.
And just now ozone is it now is owns the drug.
And so she sits up and then the output of the craziness of it, she hugs one of the paramedics the fires are there there's you know, the firefighters are trained in the first response. So they they were there
that the resuscitation machines and everything
so she hugs a paramedic, and fist bumps, all of the fire ease. Thanks so much. As I said, if you see me ever on the street, make sure you give me a big thumbs up. Yeah, this is the the lady who was I don't know how far off dying.
Yeah, I mean, if there was no one around to come and try and resuscitate her. I mean, they didn't even resuscitate they just I guess I don't know the technical term but they didn't have to give her a shock to the house. She had a positive impressions made he got there and he just like take the pulse pump their chest like just push the sternum and then he just lifted for a moment cuz he's like she's alive. Yeah. And that's when now common Dan old mine so
now that I think about it's got nothing to do with my coffee.
The coffee got us to that storey
that was literally like, like the effects of a Samson. So I was like fucking little bit jittery. Mike. Like, he can say how something like heroin, ruin fat. But
I mean things that said, it's like that I've thought about it quite a few times. moment where I'm meditating. And just was, I couldn't get it out of my head for a moment. And then I got it out. But it's, I mean, this is how things if, like, how does affect you? You don't have to be sad and moping around. It could just be the thought keeps coming into your head. Are you saying Do you don't he hasn't entered your mind? No, that's interesting.
Like, I don't know whether it's I've learned to just shut that kind of stuff out. Like the area that I live in for school isn't a great area. Like there's drugs, and there's gangs and there's violence. And I'm like, I've seen that. And the first time I saw it, it scared me. But I feel like it's the same with anything. The more you see it, it just becomes like it becomes normal. Almost. I couldn't believe the paramedics I
can't You can't work in a hospital. Your everyday response was to be a coward. You know, I mean, just
it's been a whirlwind this week. MGFJ out. He brought his bloody a game
yesterday. And he also spent a good hour with us afterwards. I just get people fired up. He was he was this was give me a little bit of anxiety because he was he said, Get a pen and paper and write these things down. Yeah. I started writing with the pen on later realised I'd run out of pain. And he kept saying, write this down. Josh, write this down. Yeah, I just couldn't bring it bring myself to say I've run out of that. So you'll see an index card with indented text. actually knowing you gave
it your best shot.
I was amazing that I got anything, any income, the actual page
what I love about someone like Jeff, is he he is questioning your thinking. He's challenging it. And so, you know, he called us out in a few things in a loving way. But it takes someone and there's a lot of things that just staying it's like, you've got some crumbs on you. I think it's like if you had a dent in the car, and you know, you need to get it fixed and someone kept on everyone. You didn't.
But we know about the do
we know about the didn't. And we were planning on fixing the dip.
Yeah. I mean, the so yeah, there's definitely a lot of lessons there. I want to talk at some point today about monetization. Okay, but I'm also hungry as fuck.
Oh, yeah. And it's Friday so
what what have you What have you should just
take a look at that for
again, I'm guessing that you didn't get a fuck it. You actually went out
and had a good solid half an hour conversation with the lady behind the counter. absolutely lovely.
giving out just copious amounts of paper bag. Yeah,
we got 30% that they take
Yeah, be careful. Oh,
there's a lot. Oh, this is why I was a guest
so sorry. What's that? Okay, so that is a potential match. Oh, which is a fried Mexican plantation berry garnish and condensed milk. It's a Chinese banana. Oh, that's a traditional Mexican desert.
Okay. I smell
plantains basically a banana.
Okay, I got these big one these a burrito? Yeah, these look like a burrito is
very dense. Very warm. It's nice. Should be one
is another one.
So this one is this is my new favourite mix. This is your new
favourite Mexico amazing. This food is all from Kelly from the happy Mexican Kelly's the manager to happy Mexican
swag he would have brought to that joint Did you tell him where were you from? Oh, she knew.
She knew she knew Really? Never even say this is how awkward I I was following them from the daily talk show. And that was very nice to me. And they follow us back. And they're like, oh, how are you? And what? Like there's so many in so many be like, yeah, yeah, I'm the guy that follows you and
I get it. You can assume people know who you are.
So what did I say?
Kelly was like you You guys are from the Daily Show. I said yeah, the daily talk show she's Oh yeah. Cuz she knew us from the snap printing place just down the road.
What do you mean? Well, we had we had
gotten product through snap printing. Yeah,
but why she got access to the data. some form of wiki like
even give over his credit card. They had it. Now that's great. I mean, like the business supporting local beers. Exactly. She's fucking awesome. Thanks, Kelly. What
we've got is to I'm going to butcher the pronunciation of this stuff because I have a terrible Spanish accent. But we've got chilli con carne nachos with cheese, sour cream, walk, walk. There's also got you Yeah, we've got to Polo burritos which is a slow cooked chicken breast baby than chilli bowl if it's pronounced polio. All right.
Well, Josh, that could be wrong.
Hello. Hello. Chicken like a Paula like when there's an Italian dish. Hola, Chica.
Yeah, the WL I think is Yeah, they always get me there.
Anyways, there's also two chiller, EO burritos, which is pork fried and spicy chilli cheese. fries.
Yeah, okay. Perfect. Deal. Thank you, Kelly.
Yes, thank Kelly. This is very good. All right. Dan, would you like some nachos? I feel like Dan can smash them
Mexican last night so I'm glad you guys still lost Thursday night I went to a Mexican place. A gringo gringo vibes. In film Bry slash north. It's called gringo vibes. I
think he said gringo
Gringo, it's like an American. It's white. I'm pretty sure it's like white guy. Americans that go down to Mexico they get called gringo. Do
you ever see a way to get the gringo gringo? Yes in America.
Yeah, American in America, so we can't be green guys know what away?
We're gronk Greg.
I really liked the sound of the pork one. So whatever. What's that? What does that say? Do you think? chat? starts with the CHJ
if it's a CH it's the pork
fried and spicy chilli tonight anyway, so you
can get the
DVR mate who is packing smashing it on YouTube. He did a video during the week that was caffeine. Getting off caffeine.
what he's doing he's 30 day challenges. So, stopping coffee for 30 days. That's a big like, we drink a lot. I've never seen a young man drink as much coffee as deal. Maybe that's where you get.
Yeah, he's got time to remember anything.
He drinks a lot of coffee and so Mets quit the coffee and only do it for a month. Yeah, yeah. Which I mean, is it fake crack, like he's made who was in the video did it for had been drinking coffee for
20 years. having coffee roasting business? I mean that when
you It's when Mason and I went to a binary being a lion being the one to do the roasting for a bunch of companies that muffin break I think is one of the clients with a roast at scale. It's kind of like a dunkin donuts. You know, it's like an over scalar we have Dunkin Donuts, right? I think there is. Is there no Dunkin donut in Australia? I mean, no, I mean, if there's a guy that knows it should I don't think we do. I don't think it's donut King. It's it's a similar vibe. Anyway, in that I was we were filming the owner and and I said to him how many coffees Are you having a day? Six? It's like and these are this is bliss or you know, this is a lot of cafe 10 espresso I think he's legit just built up a tolerance tolerance. But you feel kind of drained don't you?
Like it's only midday?
I literally like
I wrote down non negotiable so what success look like for today? Yeah, I literally right, like work three more hours. Wow. Oh, is that when that crunch come to say wow, the crunch is full on. I mean, so what are you gonna do? Are you saying no, no, I'm gonna I'm actually fine because the food is got I feel like I've been baby's got an empty TomTom. And so all the coffee's sort of. Really?
Yeah. Have you eaten at all today?
anything substantial? No, no, no. Okay. And how many coffees have you had? You've had I had too strong and the big drink coffee. So yeah, like Actually, I don't know what I've got tingles in my hands. I know what that's if you're gonna
dry on coffee, eat a lot of food and then drink a lot.
It feels like that's the answer. But 97 was actually walked past me. And he pointed to me and said, This is why I don't want to drink coffee. I'm pointing to you.
That's funny. Why?
What? I don't want an addiction like you do.
I don't know if it's an addiction. That's an addict. Think about that. It's actually this mindless.
Is it not? It's that's what happens when mindless. You don't even think about it. a habit? Yeah.
Personally bad negative. It's a negative habit.
Yeah. There's also the anxiety that comes from it. That I mean, my son's not I don't feel like I feel like you. You. You trying to say this politely? Don't go for it. You outwardly show your anxiety me?
Yeah. I told you about 979. And I bit like
somewhere he's a that is a closed book.
Yeah, no, definitely. I'm pretty obvious.
Easier to be like when it's
when the coffee comes. It's like, I think it's like any of these things. And I know what do you think? First that you think that I'm anxious that I drink more coffee? or coffee and then get anxious?
No, I think you just like coffee and you drink it. And then really sad drinking coffee like four years ago? Just before?
Yeah, but I would just have hot chocolate. But anxiety was still there. But could you imagine 97 Mike talking anxiety and coffee. Imagine if 97 had coffee and then had to read out an email.
About that, guys. I think we have a professional in the building. Yeah, Dan news right up. You know, you can't stop your words. I'm sure you haven't asked.
What's the biggest fuck up that you've done on air?
It's names that usually need to be it'll be names. So she Australian Open time? Who? Really difficult? Yeah. What's your favourite Medvedev is my favourite noodle meditative
Russian, I believe. And so how it's pronounced is not how it's written. Sometimes you
write it phonetically. phonetically is the way to go sometimes. Like you really need to, like, as simple as possible, is the key. So
we had Mr. 97, reading out an email the other day, and I had flashbacks of grade two. You know, it's like you, you've actually got to speak it. It's almost like Siri reading something back to you. No, no personality, just words coming out. And it sounds like he's recorded each word separately, and then just stitched it together. It's now being Hey, I am that.
So what is the what's the secret to not sounding like a robot?
Well, you got it. I mean, I guess it's well, it's how it's written. So you got to ride it out. You got to you. When you're writing scripts for news, you're you're writing and writing at the same time. So you write a sentence, write it if it doesn't sound good when you're ready to rewrite it again. So a lot of times and in radio, they'll be a lot of things that come from other people that you need to read in terms of like act cues, and yeah, primary, the next show whatever. They will be written by people who don't write, to write for a living show. So they have a writer and you're ready to be like, Whoa, this makes no sense. I can like there's three different sentence sentences here that don't connect at all. So then you go back to and go, I'm going to rewrite this because it doesn't sound doesn't sound right. Yeah, it looks right.
I think we can't actually give him that excuse. Because what was written was something by a Walkley award winning radio journalist. Okay.
It was that it was actually correct. Like all the grammar for Ben. Ben handsome. I'm sorry, not Ben Hansen. not been for them. thing was okay. Yeah.
Are you talking about that one?
No, I think Jody's. God was the one that he really few. Yeah.
The one that author was talking about? Yeah. But he's still in bed for them. So it's actually all right.
He still sounded like a time ago.
To make sure I got it. Right. So and so what is it when you're doing a radio news? piece? Is it like a teleprompter? Is it moving automatically? For you?
Yeah. Oh, you move it? Yeah, control it.
But I guess yeah, the only times you get caught up is if you've put it in a script that someone else has written you haven't had time to? You know, before we both both, you haven't had time to write it before you got away. Those other ones will check you out. Because it's not because it's not written how, in your start.
In Australia, Qantas one of the airlines. I mean, it's an international airline, but it's an Australian family. A lot. Speaking to our international audience, I
think quantities maybe
maybe not Did you know Yeah, Ryan man brought it to light in that you know,
in the movie Rain Man and he movie Rain Man.
But the point being it's Queensland and Northern Territory, so if you wanted an Australian who on the worked out that last year with you guys, too, and some people have slipped up and said, Candace is there is there specific words that you just tripped over? You find you just like no, I can't get any of that.
No, luckily touch wood haven't had I haven't had a conscious moment.
no, I think it's it's usually it'll be there'll be certain words that I that I just in life have a hard time saying like drew jewellery. jewellery always tripped me out. So if there's a if there's a robbery at a jewellery store.
So I'll just say I don't know you taught you just find another word.
For job. What do you sound like?
A ring. Yeah, whatever you want to
ring. Just Yeah.
Do you get nervous?
When you go live, it can be a bit nerve wracking.
And what is all news for the most part, like you're doing
most of its life? If you're doing other markets, you do you do? recorded Yeah. Or if you're technically doing two boards, and so on at the same time, they're going live, you'll need to do one pre recorded one live. It's like it's nerve racking if if things are going wrong, within that live three minutes, you've this meant to be a audio that you mentioned right on audio that doesn't play and you just have to sort of five Yeah, five other city parents. So
I've always pulled up pebble for sayings, and it's all it's not a snit. So schnitzel. Yeah, I mean, it's schnitzel. Hmm, that's one word that people really, really struggle with.
That's the one you'll focus. It's like the easiest word.
Yeah, I've just my calling. You know, I'm a
you care about that thing? I don't know. I reckon. I mean, you care about mispronounce? Yeah, absolutely. Did I probably fuck up things a lot. I think I'm
missing it. Seven says everything.
All everything. Where'd that come from?
I don't know. I think I say something as well.
It was is that come from?
Nadia? No. I've had I've had it for a cop ship from primary school.
Getting into score 97 getting into score of 97 and still say everything. Yeah, and
I think I say I say Pacific a little bit as well. Really? Yeah.
Wow, that's, that's really I'm
colour blind. What about unemployable?
I mean, people getting names wrong. I've actually experienced it firsthand where someone has called Bodie, the wrong name. It happens. My son Dan is Bodie BODHI like Bob. Hi, I'd rather than say, Bob. Hi. They're not looking at it though. Because that's how it's spelled NUM Brody.
Yeah, it's just the go to I mean, you they registering Bodie in a split second, and just adding the hour and Brody has Brody.
And then you know, I've had good it's always a rapport building. The reason they're asking you to want to build rapport. Yeah. So the worst you can do is punch them in the guts and say, it's bowtie Canadian.
Take it out. I don't pick them up. The the funny one is when they say they've said Brody a bunch of times, and then they call him Bodie. On the third time, like the third interaction, there is someone so they've actually went well, they've probably realised and made the connexion of fact, I was saying Bodie, Brody pressure now it's barely barely barely either way.
Yeah, it's it's something that I think it's better that you don't mention. Just let it go. Dan the other day, we're talking to three day deal he leaves for Canada got to go home at the end of the month. And we're not money right there deal. What just happened to take just slams it down hard just Yes, you bro.
That was way too big. Wasn't it? Was that the
big like No, I just took a bite it was falling off the phone. He
wasn't expecting going to have to give a monologue just be honest. But you throat it was expecting that
was well, I was actually looking at Dan and I saw deals met like he looked like he was tracking. So I'm glad you're okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. But, deal. We had it on his bucket list to go to a 40 game. You've got a podcast that's dedicated to 40 chat. What are the call your call your call? Yep. Now, you obviously know a bit about 40. We're thinking about going to swans.
Next Friday night, next Friday night? Yeah.
At Okay, so you hadn't you've never been to a 40 game before? Correct. Right. And that one, I believe is at Marvel. Now.
We want to get it that's I think, this weekend is there's one of Marvel studying this. Yeah, but we want to get to the JK. Yeah,
yeah, that's my that's my role. If you got if it's the first game you going to make it? MCJ? Yeah, it'd be cool. I mean, I, my thing is, I always if I'm taking people who have never been to a game before, has to be the MCJ. I feel like it has to be plus, like 70,000 people expected. Yeah, that one won't be the case. Because it's Sydney. And then they're not in the finals right anymore. So yeah. And so
yeah, we get a good deal on the ticket. Price and knowing
all the Melbourne supporters will be at Mount Buller as well.
I feel as though for this avenue just see if there's anyone with, you know, sneaky box pass or key members. Because given that there won't be a lot of people there. There'll be people who usually have members positive. Just want to miss Yeah, you never know.
That's what that's what I said.
I mean, Tommy saying this, but can you believe he had an MCC membership that he gave up? That's pretty extraordinary. I know that you always cry porn site, and I couldn't afford it. And then that makes me feel bad. Yeah,
I couldn't afford it. Not all not all the suspending So previously on subscriptions.
Have you got an empty seat? And that that hurts a little
bit like it is one of those things was a 17 year waiting list?
Yeah. Yes, my parents need to put you down when you're born. If you're any chance I might have mine is and so I should just tack on with him. You can buy guess pass like like 30 bucks. Today I Syria.
Maybe I can even ask my brother to come with us on the Friday night because he's got MCC and my both my brothers and then we can get cheaper tickets. Okay, go through them. And we get into the MCC area, which is just same vibe out in the stands, but just a bit nicer. Would we still bring our own food? Because I'm thinking about getting it's the mess and putting?
Because you're a 90 year old grandma?
Yeah. Well, I think it's a whole experience. Bring some sauce?
Sure. I don't know. I mean, I never I never take food or drink into it. So I'm not sure what the latest rules are in that because I remember a few years ago there was a bit of a crackdown on that they wanted they want you to buy food there. I want you to spend as much money as possible. My like my only concern for you guys. I'm not sure if this is effective, but the MCC you actually can take drinks into the out on the site into
alcoholic beverages. Yeah, yeah,
exactly. I'm treated like a spider or correct but yeah, yeah. If you want to drink have to go to the bar, which when you think about it, you might as well just be Yeah.
tonnes of bang got wasted. And just watch the footy from the bar. Yeah, at the MZJ cuz he used to hearing the eruption. Yeah, take a piece and you look down this the ground, it's all happening. It's a weird thing. But that's actually that's when you, you just into it. You just want to
die from the alcohol thing? Because I didn't drink. I didn't drink for the most part of my life. And then I just started in the last like, few months started having red wine. Yeah. And then fucking Jeff Jarrett said if you drink every night, you probably got a problem. And I did have like a I thought it was normal to have like a glass of red wine in the evening. For me, but normal usually stated and I just I just thought that's like a big cut off. If you have one. I think I read somewhere to that. It's like good female
Hobbit, you can read every if you look for that. I mean,
you're looking for the one burrito awake.
Show there's probably some study using 10 PY. So
I decided like it I don't actually, with all my floors. I just don't need that alcohol.
Well, I think it is. I mean, it's why I stopped because I was having it every other day, but not even like maybe there was a week off. But then I would have in those moments. And Jeff said, when people are saying a high need a drink our hearts like that's when you're, if you're masking something, you're it's a band aid for a feeling. But then I found that when I put the bandaid on had had the drink, it actually makes me I get sheet here easier. I can't control my emotions as well as I can being sober. So there's a bunch of benefits, right?
I wonder like, Are there certain alcoholic beverages that you just don't have at the 40? Like, is it just strictly be or would it be common to see someone with a red wine or tequila or
I mean, if you all the fact and you would not be at the long room drinking a nice glass of red. That makes sense been around the bullring and the bars are in the empty JJ around that. I mean, you're already just smashing be it's kind of the thing to do. But I'm sure there's people drinking, you know, vodka and sodas.
This although they've got the like the old days, the Smirnoff cans and whatnot. Generally BMCC live and they have I think in the evening, the outer they serve, it's a little plastic cup of red or white wine. A little like flip. Like top on it. So you just peel the top of it.
Like a orange juice, finding all the top of it and have you read it.
It doesn't sound like this one game is the one to go to. No one. Who would you see? Can I do pretty deal wanted to go to July? Twice? I go to July? Because region long? Yes. Because you see the games
when I when I look at myself five years in the future. I could see myself living in July. Just like how just like how Josh is. in Tasmania you're going to be is DN Yeah, sure. So long. I just all had people around me.
So it's it's a tough time of year because we're getting to the end to the pointy end. So so tough time as in harder to get ticket. No, I just feel games to choose from. Okay. Yeah. Especially at the MCG because they start to come into finals time. So the MCG is gonna be prime real estate, so that I don't want to have too many games. They're coming up to the end of the season. So make sure that the ground is still in good condition for one
for the fall line. Okay, sure. Really. So they're actually they dial it back so that they can get it all looking good.
Yep. That's interesting. If you can get tickets to it and you should be able to because it's Brisbane, but Richmond Brisbane on the 25th. That's the last game that's a Sunday season. That's a Sunday.
We will we were hoping for an evening is that during the day
that's during that that's a 320. So it'll go into the night.
It's a good guy. That's a good that'd be great. Sunday's a good ball.
If we leave. Yeah, if we leave and it's dark. I'm cool.
Yeah. The game like the fourth, mid third quarter, fourth quarter will be
in the dark. They'll have to turn the lights on. Yeah, right.
Yeah. And then we might just Usher him across to that moment on punt road. Just
this the entertainment? Is there
isn't that one?
I'm sure they probably on that.
Tommy spent a lot of his time saying it's not snits.
Now, what's their branding? And it is it is a snatch? Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad. Okay, well, let's transition this conversation out of sport into the monetization arena. I just got a message. Jeff Jarrett, is already on tour. What I love about Jeff is we have these sort of flurries of conversation and engagement. And then it goes quiet. And then I might message him, and then we just jump on. But Jeff sort of comes at it with the energy as he did for a podcast. And so like, you know, yeah, last night, he was messaging, just telling me he's going home. But anyway, so texting, and then he texts me this morning. And he's done the intro. I see. He's done this a bunch of times text message, but I see like this unknown number attached to it as well. So it's like, I can get him in a group message here.
I don't do group messages.
Now. I know, but I think I think he does. Especially when it's a number you don't know. It causes you to go.
What's this about? Is it a blue? Like is it a message or is it a?
Well, not just isn't Jeff and plus 61401. So anyway, clicked on it. Jeff's back in the arm, the bandwagon. Really, Tommy made. Carla, tell me how Tommy has a podcast in Melbourne. callow has food for fitness.com.iu good for you going to Melbourne. He saying the colour colour has the food business that does the pre prepared meals. A lot of bodybuilders are getting around this, or bodybuilders Are you know, taking the cooking equation cooking out of the equation just means that they can hit those macros macros, and they know exactly what they're having more time for lifting. I there's a running joke because when I lived in bond, I was running joke with George land. Okay, so George lon lived in Bondi, he lives behind me. I was in a nice little one bedroom apartment. So I was in a shoebox. He was in a nice, great big house. Thanks to SEO. He was on the radio and that, you know, funded this house for the living sounds amazing. We spent a lot of time there. And it was a great period. Where
did you organise your house? To be close to his as a way of potentially leveraging
not not at all? No, no. Like I knew Jules was living there. And I was moving up there. And we you trying to find any way to live in Monday? If you think it's hard to get a place in Melbourne? With 20 people going to an inspection and when there's 20 people it's triple that in Bondi it is it's it's so crazy. And so we got this great place. awesome little spot for me and I it's like 490 bucks a week, which for? Mondo it was I think it wouldn't be it'd be 550 600 now, anyway, it was perfect location and Jules land. hadn't even started tribe yet. He was thinking about it. And that's when I live there. I filmed the first you know, pitch video for investors for the idea of driving amazing. So we connected apes and we were spending a lot of time together. I was annoying him. That's exactly what was going on. But he was trying to get fit and he was paying to get these meals delivered these frozen meals. And I mean, he just always offered one when I went, but it just became this joke that I was just eating these frozen meals non stop,
which is something like I can definitely imagine that
well the handyman. I mean, when you I'm not knocking back meatballs and mash we should be healthy.
When I was working at Radio. Hamish and Andy had mentioned that they love the Snickers and Mars bar ice cream. Oh my god, I ate so many those and it for so they had the whole freezer like a commercial grade freezer, and should be fucking double parked with a couple of Snickers ice cream.
Yeah, Josh to know that was so dangerous. That probably put on 1015 kilos around them are probably HHH I had so many of those. But these are healthy, like if you were to stick at just eating these kind of meals, every meal, say three meals a day. So that's breakfast, lunch and dinner, or even just add breakfast, and you get the consistency like this shit works. As Jeff said, it's about, you know, it's the old school whitewashes approach, right that I mean, you've lost a bunch of white doing and you know, Valerie's in calories out rebranded
when I WWWW white white watches.
that's like so their website is ww.com
far out for that. Yeah. I mean, it's happy. hundred thousand dollars like it. How many? More? Yeah, well, every three letter to letter domain is taken.
Can you work out what the what they paid for W right there, chilli. Yeah, that's cool. Was it? Is it young? Yes. Good. Okay. Can you can you look up the WW. And see if you can find out the cost of that domain name. It's a nice seven. But yeah, they've been doing a hot it sounded so weird on the TV because they like doing ads. And I think it's um, Sam Armitage maybe I should get that guy. Yeah, with WW.
I actually think I know you don't like cooking. You like eating out? You like overwrites you. Like
you're dialling back the urge to be honest. Yeah.
Okay. So but then I think something like these meals. One thing he can't be, is that fussy? It's about the gall. It's about seeing them as energy in it. Yeah. But I think some of the companies are doing them really well. These, the company that Jules was doing it through that were kind of
young. I To be honest, I paid a lot of money for one called dynamic dynamic. I think it's actually like an ex football player that I made them. annoyingly, this happened twice that you would have like soup satchels. And so you put them in the microwave, and turn it on, but annoyingly when you're right now I think 97 is literally walked away from me. Hearing hearing coughing it's dead
serious hiccups give us a nice report. Thanks, guys. Yeah, serious hiccup situation. You might there was a spit just I just heard did hear a spit.
Was that a farmer?
Not like I don't regret that. I know. They were at DEF CON vomit yet.
Okay. Yeah, it's, it's all happening. I think I think we should be okay. Yeah, I am. The dynamic stuff. The patches. The problem is when you put in the microwave, have it up, right. Turn it on, and when we're down phrase the fucking thing would fall over and the soup would go everywhere in the microwave. Yeah, I wonder what am I doing wrong?
You probably need to cut cut it out of its packet which is it could just be bad design right these companies all just trying to work it out. And and sometimes it wasn't what happened chilly still in my mouth. It's a sniff on my you don't
like chilli you don't
know. This is this is I don't know what that was. His face is so hot. That's awesome. That's okay. Is it Kelly up? Right. Was it Kelly? Kelly?
Yeah. Kelly. Kelly. Good. So the monetization
trying to work out how to make cash on the show. spending a lot of time you guys yeah, a lot of time a lot of money. But a lot of Mexican food to pay for
something that GFG out said yesterday off air. Which really resonated with with you was you guys aren't grabs. I mean, it could be a grab right now eating this food now. Are you fine, go get grubby.
Gosh, the thing is you not grubs. Yeah, whole lot people ask him, I was like, What's something about like, yeah, I'm not a fucking grub. Just trying to like,
just have a
couple of gronk trying to make a living gonna do do the show and have a bit of fun.
Yeah, no crops. And so anyway, then talking about different ways that we could potentially monetize. And
it's funny what those simple things like saying you're a gravel, you know, to grab how these little things resonate? And why why things connect at a certain point in time, on your journey, because you can someone could say that months ago, and this is nothing, nothing profound about it, but a bit, you can find it's not profanity, it's not a word. You can find something profound in a moment just because of where everything is one
way talks about what process over outcome. Yeah. Which I like. But one of the ideas that we had, which I think we're speaking to mate, Rob Ward at quad lock, who they're spending money all the time on marketing and all that sort of thing. They're the guys behind these phone cases, and giving him a free and annoying. send you an invoice, Rob, but the that will ask you, Rob, Mike, what do you think the deal is? What should we do? And the initial idea I had, which he didn't like, bringing up anyway 365 days a year, we're doing the show. What about if we charge something really like so? People charging thousands and thousands of dollars for advertising on podcasting? What about if we made the barrier to entry lower? said $300 an episode. And we try and book 365 days?
Yeah. And you could come up with a million of these ideas. Right? And all the advice Jeff Craig hapa all these people who are doing it have created something amazing, is
you're gonna make your first buck.
You gotta crawl before you walk. Yeah.
Pete Williams in the book, or if you deal just start running out. 200 k? Yeah, just does that going?
Good. I'm gonna take the day off today and rest my knees. Good. Thanks for that.
I just was trying to get Josh back on track is a good idea very much diverted.
Pete Williams in the book cadence. I think he talks about the year to make your first hundred dollars before you make your first thousand dollars before you make your first 10,004 million. And everyone's like, I want to make my $10,000 when in reality, we have made a total of zero dollars on this podcast. Yeah.
Did we pay for this food deal? We didn't need? We did. I
heard didn't? Yeah, we did.
I would have been pissed if you took it off them. To be honest. Support legal business.
Hip on paypal. I mean, so what what's the what's the floor? 90 serves as a producer. What do you think the floor is of charging a lower amount per episode? I guess KPMG This is your salary? Yeah, yeah.
No, no, i think i think i think it does come back to the whole idea of crawling before you walk. Yeah. And it's, I think you have to do it. But you do risk selling yourself in too low and creating
that sort of
idea that way. I mean, you gotta stop. But hapa whores that would do? Yeah, we a little bit if the shoe fits. slipping? Yeah. If the shoe pays $300, we will manage.
Yeah, so I guess you sort of like risk that a little bit. And I think, you know, I know what you're saying. But I think also, this is what GFS a business now doing is challenging people's thinking. So if you that is you're thinking what's the opposite thinking? Why? Why you looking at what you're doing like that? You know, you start somewhere. It's about how do we keep this great thing that we've got going? Going? How do you keep that keep the shop open?
Well, we feel comfortable charging a decent chunk of money to do video production. And that's because we've been doing it for 15 years. Yeah. The the differences, I guess that this is a little uncharted territory. So then all of a sudden we say okay, well, if we're getting to closer to what we love, and we can do that. And then if we can afford to charge less, because it's actually moot. Like, we're still making some money off it.
Yeah. I mean, what what was it for you when you were 15? facing people for money to make videos? I mean, you didn't have any experience? You're starting out? What was it for you like, I remember my first personal training client, my heart was thumping. got through 30 bucks for the hour. I thought it was amazing. And I hadn't. I thought we had most of the businesses cash. You know, you might get it was great. Always had cash in my pocket. But it's, I just remember that time. And you got us. It's the starting somewhere because it informs those next decisions. And I think to your point Mason, you like start small. How do you go up from that? Or you know, that's how you're seeing here? what's the alternative? Starting? mass? Yeah. Hi.
I'm retract. I said it's three grand in app show. All right, can you go sell it? A little bit?
You're letting people in on just that initial thinking. Because if it's that today, it doesn't have to be that tomorrow.
But also, I guess we need to flip it to when it's like, what is the value that we're giving them? Should we get over 30,000 downloads a month? That's good. And so then if we think about that, it's like, Okay, well, am I growing? We grow like we grew from fucking 20% last month. Yeah. So if we think about the growth every single month, I feel like part of it is if we can get people i mean is longer term, the answer is it like, Hey, we want to get Nando's to sponsor us for six months, and they give us X amount and it covers 97 wage, and I can lease or,
I mean, there's multiple ways of skinning a cat. Where did that song come from? Who's skinning cats?
Please? You know, damn, what is an external person? What do you think about the whole monetization?
Well, it's, it shouldn't be any different. So radio? What are your writings? Your writings dictate how much you charge appetisers to be mentioned on your show? Yeah. Or in conjunction with your show? So you're talking 30,000 downloads a month? That's your writings. Yeah. So you just figure out what I don't know. It's kind of I guess it's hard to figure out what what dollar amount that is for you know, a sponsor to jump on board when those your writings, but then like I said, next month, if they go 10%, then your rate goes up. 10% that's how it works. If I go down, yeah, then you can't charge the client the same amount of money the next month, if you're not getting as much people listening and hearing their their ads. So I guess yeah, the the literally $64 million question is do you charge? $64 million? Right? How much? How much do you want money? What amounts are you going to do you put on it? And you can you can come up with five, five sponsorship packages. One's worth hundred bucks. This number six is worth $600. Yeah. And in the middle the and whatever, you know, they they've got a you know, the one that's cost $100. You mentioned them once during the show. Yeah. Every day. I think you do you do during the week your posts and your sponsored by Nanos, whatever. So
WhatsApp pushback. So part of my pushback, is that we have like, set up this but like, because we do have real expenses. Right? So it's like, you know, the, you know, the lease and all that sort of thing. What do you think the office can
do? Yep. Amount money well spent. Thank you go make money, just make money. We spend money to make money.
Exactly. So now we just need to have woken
up, I guess part of it is it's like we've sort of, we have positioned ourselves as a premium product based on like, we haven't necessarily gone el cheapo with certain things. So then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, well, like, if we were to get $300, an episode, just a random amount. It would take two weeks for us to pay off just what we spent in the mic. Microphone arms,
I reckon we would have to spend 300 bucks just to replace this little thing that you're
so worried about? Can you understand why I was worried it's just so easy to lose.
But we could have had a 3d printed
So then it's like, Okay, so we've invested our own money into it. And we've been able to do it for 18 months without making a cent. And I guess it's just if we're thinking about, we want to do it for 10 years, all of a sudden, because I guess Jeff was talking about his horse, he loves these horses, you've shown that that his hobby
this isn't just a hobby for us this is we want this to be a living and breathing business, that can support us, it can support our team, it can pay for everything, I think is great, great. And also we can reinvest into creating better content,
thank you can confuse the hobby thing with it being the thing. But if you don't truly want it to be the thing that you make your money from, it's going to probably just result as a hobby. If you just internally not thinking like you've got to be committed to anything you do, you gotta be committed to putting everything into it, right. And that's what we do for this show. I say that the money thing is funded to have fun, like to continue to have fun to continue to do what we do this, you could change everything. But that's not what, what you want to do. I think we build a show where we do what we want to do. And that's the Yeah, and it's something I even thought about that before this podcast about years and years and years ago about what what, what I would love to do every day when I wake up, and it's
pretty close to this. I guess that's part of it. Like, the more you move away from the shit you actually want to do, the more you have to charge because it's just based on like, yeah, it's gonna be worth it.
I think we take a massive risk doing this. And I don't think certain times we're talking about delusion yesterday with Jeff as to Lou. And maybe that was with Sam, Kevin earlier in the week. But there is a there's a necessity of delusion in in the early stages, because other people probably don't think you can fucking do it. But if you are delusional enough to think you can do it, there's not much difference between the people who do it and actually make a success of it, and what they're thinking the early days and the person that is over here.
And also if you're doing something different as well, like where we can't really look to anyone else and say what should we do? Because what we've built so far, we've ignored fucking heaps of advice, but we're creating our own path. So it'd be weird to do that to be like, a, like, We're going on our own journey and then to be like, okay, now how do we make money? Because it's not going to be aligned?
Mom's confused. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Mr. 90 sevens. Mom's confused. Three to deal with mom.
very confused. Yeah, Josh Yama. Yeah. Confused? Yeah. It was pretty confused. But
I think Imagine all the great things in this world that have been created. The confusion around them, they're a lot of these things that have worked. Don't make sense for most people.
Not comparing what we've done to going to the moon or anything like that. But definitely,
It's a super fit. What do you think is
well, they don't have much to do in there. When they're in the when they're on the journey. before they go gonna be hot, right.
Lift off. They're like,
yeah, I mean, you just why you should now live at the lower
right, taking off.
Yeah, what do you think it would be
high? Hundred, it'd be it'd be like 30 nervous 100 notes.
I think of the force of you going up. The gravity is pushing you down. Your heart has to work hard.
Blood throughout your body. Tell me what happens
when you finish it. Anyway, we confuse a few things. I thought you were just talking about astronauts needing to have a low resting heart rate because you're the video or the lowly resting heart rate. So I thought you were referring to astronauts have low resting heart rates. They do. Like 20 right now with the coffee bean
with the coffee definitely switching but the I believe that when they were going up someone like us I'm sure I'd be about one it just back in
Okay, so nice. Neil Armstrong when he was piloting the landed to touch down on the moon, his heart rate was 150.
So that's full on but what about on the launch?
Give me a second
magazine. I have these facts to be able to pull up
Space travel. I Buzz
Aldrin punch the guy in the head. Do you hear about this recently? Yeah, some guy that was denying the moon landing. Maybe was Neil or bus one of them just cracking. Crack the guy. That'd be an asshole moon landing. No, I mean, I've said it before, but it seems to have happened.
I was questioning why would he throw a punch if it didn't happen? Didn't want to get out?
True. So nice. So before you
know I can't find on the actual launch.
At the end Did you hear this dad did
I saw the the Apollo 11 taco recently and yeah, in it that was saying because it's recorded and they were saying when they're on their way. I think Neil had the highest and it was something like 1515 Okay, yeah, the gods had something 90s so I think because because they're just super fit and and I guess for them was just they done the training It was not as stressful as it would be for you and I jumping in a rocket so
crazy. They had a lower resting heart rate than the day my son went on his first it says 110 here you're you're at 122
do all the breathing techniques not
anyway. land that not?
Definitely not now. Have you seen one of the sheep landings down into the water? splash landing injected
challenge it wasn't a challenge the one that blew up
that never been seen again on the dating scene. Anyhow, if you want to support us, if you want to know more clarity
maybe you're a fucking marketing director got a few extra back in a dosh to spend the boys funding the fun but will also like push your product and won't be very effective. The gronk tend to spend I guess maybe
my gronk spin it's a trait of a gronk I think so.
frivolous gronk spy dumb shit.
And so, to be honest, I have to get back to Craig hapa. You messaged me last night. One sentence? What is a gronk? Question mark really is it's
taking that long.
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Oh yeah, you know, my my brother and I had a falling out about Fitbit.
Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's fine. That's okay.
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