- July 8, 2019
Happy Saturday! Welcome to our first Weekend Banter, we’re so excited! We’ve got two of the best gronks around, Gemma Watts and Peter Shepherd, joining us. We loved recording the episode, so we hope you enjoy!
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– Confessions of a Gronk
– Peter’s butler, Cadbury
– Thongs in the shower
– Conversational Ice breakers
– Instagram Usage
– Awkward dating moments
– Doing the wrong thing
– Why attractive people get away with more
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 395. And it's weekend Banter.
I think we need to do this is the very first one. Let's do a roll call starting with Mr. 97. Yeah. My effect is every time
I because you want you want to present.
Yeah, he's in prison. So you know,
President Josh Janssen, president. Jim wants
to present Thomas jacket. Present. What's going on guys?
Yeah, well, there's that 10 minutes. That's fine. for that. Yeah. It's um, it's Saturday for for people who are listening.
Yeah. Which is Saturday? Yes. Which is the sixth day of the week?
We've spoken about this. So we have we got two on two here. I believe that the first day of the week Monday, not. Okay. gratin. sulphates working off my, my thinking and Josh injera. You think we're working
on his what's correct.
Thank you, do we? Do we work? Well,
well, I think that you didn't really go anywhere on the show. But that's what we can banter is about it's about really drumming in the ship bits into a weekend. Yeah, yeah. Well, you guys, you guys at the minimum viable gronk with the idea that we can, we're in a safe space where we can talk shit, we can really be vulnerable. And we're all going to I'm just looking at gender. This is a bad idea. We can all be supportive of one another.
So you guys,
Cameron paid you guys know each other from the internet. Yeah, free.
Yeah. Couple of gronk. So yeah, Instagram.
I had something to do with it. rifle through my bag. Normally, it's Tommy that guys know what it is? As soon as you say it, you know what you're looking for?
oh my goodness. Okay.
Here we go.
To bring one for you. But I noticed that they referred to me as Queen gronk and then started to call you it's not going to fit but I'll just put it there for a little bit. They started to call you King gronk.
I noticed that too late to awaken to call you King gronk. Is that what you just said? Oh, no, it was on the episode, where you said Gemma was Queen gronk. And he
Well, I didn't want it to seem like some form of you know, arranged marriage. Yeah, the US. The US later that? What's the thing where they the formal my day job, though it's the prom prom, and they have the prom king and queen. I didn't want to sort of say I didn't want have to sit up that dynamic early on. I'm pretty sure we did mention on today on Friday's episode which we're recording Friday we can we can banter is pre recorded, I think will drop any
of that talk moving forward because people know they're just listening when you're listening. That way there's no confusion it's too confusing for people if you're listening to this on Monday the first day of the week it doesn't matter what day it is right and
so maybe we do we just drop off the weekend banter but we just say
say will be recorded Okay, it's just pre recorded
the whole park or
the early days but the thing is TJ is funny about it because in the early days of the podcast I used to mention the weather at the top of the show and also die and sorry that was very
someone on the other side of the world for a while yeah well that's the reason I was doing that was because in that born lead is this like copywriting he talks about like painting the picture
book of a guy who was in prison that wrote it Yes. copywriter Yeah, I'm real manipulator.
Got you in a bit of trouble? Yeah, yeah.
in more ways than one but we've got a sport we've decided to have a spread.
Yes, but now I do know a big cuisine. So
I went to a party last weekend. Not sure if you guys had heard that. I put on a spit.
Please tell me
20 kilos. Someone brought like 20 it was like a slab of kombucha and I don't drink and salads. I just went straight for I smashed about seven and I felt sick. It's good for you. I don't know if sevens good for you guys
would actually be a funny thing to try. Like one week good feed got and I just ate the things just yoghurt
probiotics in yoga and in this stuff but the point I don't think is that you combine them all and you've got a healthy yet. It's Yeah, it's some of them like you choose which you're going to have like I think you'll probably shoot yourself too much.
biotics I think we're having too much coke no sugar at the moment at the office
well it was guys it was was
between coke no sugar and I'm like what was it
it's it's it's what suburb your offices in whether it's a coke or coke no sugar. It was a dream of Josh is for some reason he dreams big in the office. It was I want you know, a fridge full of coconut sugars. And so I've the last weekend
I regretted already pretty girl I came home last night and because you taking off the tiara?
Yeah, I think
I can leave it close by to the TJ might tell you off because it doesn't look good for the shot. But it looks
fine. She looks amazing. Right placement.
But no, I did regret it. I just I just felt gross. Like that night after having like, every three tokenize sugars and coffee. It's going to into like a
bad diet territory. Guys. What do you mean it's going to? I don't
know. I don't see them. I say Coke, no sugar a bit differently than I don't know. I think we should get to Jay's point he was saying earlier, we should get the cry. Which is like I love the crew. It's expensive.
It's it's American fizzy water. hints of lime or hints of wearing
Yeah, even post Milan raps about it.
It's one of those things I like I went to America a couple of times last year and everyone was raving about Lacroix. And I was at you with the grind. Can you hear that? It's too much. That sounds delicious.
Second is Mr. Video very directly
learned about this?
Anyway, you're in America, America, everyone's drinking Lacroix and talking about the groyne and I was like, have you guys not heard of sparkling water before? This is like a new thing. And it's just that that someone's rebranded it really really well. Yeah, and it's now like huge, but it's it's it can't just be the rebrand because there's nowhere else that I feel like you can get like in Australia. I tried. I think Schweppes have a version and just makes my tongue feel funny. It's expensive to really expensive. Yeah, shit. It's a little cry one is actually very good. Like you can have a lot like there's one that tastes like I'm almost like a smells like sunscreen. It's like the coconut one. I think you had some
then we found another supermarket. Whole Foods they end up selling they've got their own brand. That's right. Yeah, that was good. And so the as Mr. stuff you've never heard of I mean, you heard what did you learn? What Where did yours learn teach you shelving? Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of when we're thinking about bringing back the word of the day,
yeah. tomorrow's episode of weekend band, and we've got my wife on. And Josh is from break. But there's a lot of words that I've taught me. Having been in Christian College and having met me.
You asked me yesterday to record my night's sleep with the audio, you know, the function, you know about this one,
which we're going to get to in
episode with and I just wanted to let you know that mind factor. Okay. Well, you fact it. So. So basically, these relieved this audio, it's an app that records you while you sleep, and it plays back the times that he's noisy about this.
Yeah. I mean, we're not going into tomorrow's content that he's bringing up on today's series. It's
very embarrassing. I mean, I appreciate this. One thing I appreciate with weekend banter is that TJ is bringing creating segments and things like that. 15 minutes in we've already got things were appreciated for
the end of the week, we want to, we want to just sort of acknowledge it's a gronk admission. Okay, we're not perfect humans. And that's what our tribe is about the drunks gronk the drunk on because I'm trying to put 10 grand live to the side of my mouth while talking bad audio gronk squad Yes, we're all admitted the gronk and so what I want you paid to start just because you to the left of me press and the big and you'd beat me up otherwise. Now your agenda john. That's what you are. Yeah. Hey,
was a voice a lovely voice. You're running away from all those scary people on the street. You went I had a fast pace to us. We did. And then Tommy gauge to Tommy engage, which was why we had issues. There was a guy who was like, he was just in a daze clearly off his face. And so we just walked past him. And Tommy decided today, how's your day going? Right now you right now it looks like he's about to fall over? So what were you actually intending to do something?
He was on the not a bit, had heroin. And he's kind of if you're on heroin, you're probably not always actually in the best possible shape. gronk thinks he needs to be in that mode. So you were right.
You were expecting him to say got dying really well. Now
sometimes it just like if he fell back he could have fallen into a car so it's just like you're right and then kind of like a sit down there now but instead he chased us down the straight.
I said if I get close front kick, Frankie, just keep distance just work.
And so why why? This just happened. She the amount of shit that I wanted, anyway.
Anyway, it's okay. But Pete shepherd. You gronk admission of the week. From this week?
Yeah. From this one. Okay, I have one actually. Okay. So it's called at the moment right. And in the bathroom in my house, we have a heated towel rack.
Fancy it's really built into the actual infrastructure is it
you turn a switch on? You've bought the butler turn the switch on?
I've had that thought for a long time. Even when I get a butler.
Think it's Richie Rich. You're getting confused with pets. Anyway,
so see capris doing on.
So Tarik is on? Yeah. unbeknownst to me the night before, I'd forgotten to put my towel on the towel rack. But my girlfriend's towel. Chelsea's was on the tower. So the next morning, what do I do? I took I took the dry towel off the towel rack being Chelsea's towel. Yeah. Meaning when she wouldn't had a shower after me. She was gonna get my wet towel from the night before. And that feels like a bit of a gronk. But I've done it.
I'm a I'm an absolute perpetrator of that crime.
And then like when she asked me about it confronted me about it. I was like, oh, I've got confused. You know, that's the thought we swapped out and have to speak to Cadbury about this, there's one big thing that I think that makes it okay for in my scenario anyway. Bry has two towels. Yeah, yeah. And so obviously, and so my thing is, but so my thing is, it's like, I'm just going to use one like she's already in a really lucky position with two towels. She's monopolise. Yeah. And if I'm in a situation where I my towel isn't doing too well.
This is such a boy. How does that happen? Well, that just like,
you know, you leave it too long or whatever. Which The funny thing is, Brian pointed out, it was actually this week, Bray pointed out the fact that the reason why, because I'm like, Man, it's crazy how my towel always ends up like smelling before your one. Right? You're always smells fresh, but I feel like mine doesn't smell that good. And she goes it's because she laid it on the fucking floor.
So I just
don't understand how this happens with towels on the floor.
Well, it's a you're in a rush or whatever. And but I actually like lane it. And then sometimes it ends up anyway.
You've just moved in with the girlfriend. Yeah, he just moved in. Yeah. How has that been? I mean, how does it feel like the nest was yours? Because you know he'd been there for a few years and then she she's come in or she come in and just go on fucking Be very careful with be more response it's a it's a big step. And I think if someone was to move into your place is your place but now it's our place. Yeah, but you still have found your groove in that joint?
Yeah, actually, we fell into a groove really well and I'm loving the idea the the reality of not having to pack a bag and go to her place like twice a week and vice versa.
But it gives Cadbury more time. I
mean, how does Cadbury feel about?
Any anything you can shave anything vulnerable? Like I think when I mean I first so I because we did long distance we only spent time we spent like is it's interesting why to start a relationship long distance because I would go up on a Friday and I'd stay with it for every minute of that time. Yes, Sunday night, which is a long, intense, it's intense. It's sort of be weird if you went up there and then
I'm actually going to hang out with the math. Uh,
yeah. A little bit bizarre. But um, so I found that that we should have got thrust into it. So living together wasn't that bad, but there's still there was friction not but it's it's all like in a safe space. So it doesn't feel like you like
yeah, like the towel thing would never happen. It's all it's like a weekend thing. It's things like that. It's things like that. And you know, one morning I might want to sleep in but oh man has their alarm on and so looks like I'm not sleeping in so it's just things I can see
if I five Yeah. Five
Yeah, well, I'm seeing this morning I was like 545 I'm going to treat myself and she's like five o'clock we get up at five o'clock. Do you have to get up at the same time? I've got a great ability the alarm goes I'm up. No, I there's nothing I enjoy more than the alarm going off and knowing it's not for me. Oh really? And I can just like go back to sleep. I literally woke up this morning to break coming home from the gym. And she came in and she had a coffee for me and I sat in bed and I drank coffee maybe had a
coffee. This is one then the what side of the bed? Have you had the switch? Now? I'm still on the same side that it was always the same side in your house.
Yes. Although I when Chelsea wasn't around I would sleep in the middle obviously because I'm quite tall or diagonal.
side right without move off to
ya know, I'm still on the same side. Okay, so that's been good. If
it wasn't contentious that point now that was fine.
If he doesn't want to be the big spoon sometimes that we have to switch sides because my back saw on the other side if you if you're really came to not be the big spoon tonight, you have to sit on the outside which annoys her because it's closer to my phone where I've got audible playing like an audio but I can't get my head around that how you do that with noise while you're late and I need it. So that's that's why that app. Okay, but for tomorrow show. Something happened and there's an app and he's got a great bid for tomorrow.
gronk move. Yeah, Queen gronk What
did you What did you call it? It's not a gronk gronk I can gronk it.
I wanted to bring this segment forward. Confessions of a gronk so that you can see Confessions of a gronk because it's the first
time that Lindsay Lohan film Confessions of a teenage drama queen which I really connected with on this
She's doing really well no
doing well and I think the show got cancelled before
she lives in Dubai strong. No
she doesn't. She lives in Mykonos. Oh really? club is Lindsay Lohan Beach Club making Really?
I did say that she was living for a while and those some wacky storey about Lindsay Lohan, by the way, where I was at Chateau Marmont, in LA. And you might my friend and I and 50 those three was there when dinner
he was waiting.
Man, it's such a it's an interesting place anyway, it's this big old mansion on Hollywood Boulevard or something like that. But is that I listed there. And the list is like Lindsay and so we were sitting
at the bottom. Seriously, there's something very Bogan about
like going to very fancy places in other countries. Well, it was in
entourage last Yes. Yeah. Did you can't go there unless you have a contact most of the time you probably maybe you can. But I would be fine my friend My friends aren't he manages it so
six by the barista and shepherd and
this one actually pay the all staying at apply. So she was a white and she set up the internet. Anyway, Confessions of a gronk
What have I done specifically in the last wake? I got a bit upset on Instagram this morning because I ruined a shoe last night I've got I was where I feel like when I'm out and I'm quite poised and together and I had I looked really nice last night and I got my fucking heel stuck in between the floorboard boys don't have to deal with these in we're on like a decking and my heel got stuck in the floorboard. So I was stopped. I was very lucky. This is so fine. And then I had to get out of the shoe. And there was a group of us trying to pull my shoe out and then we've snapped to the bottom.
Is it footage of this? Is there a photo? There's
definitely a photo?
Yeah, so my shoes cool. So which is the gronk bit?
is why just think the whole situation I think
it happens to a gronk yours was gronk moves that affected someone else? To very gronk situation. Yeah, good distinction. I like that.
Yeah, it's important. I don't have any actually for the
Mr. 97 popped up very fast. And he's he reckons he's got one
Yeah. Do you know still in the corner of the kitchen?
Know what the ones you played?
I mean that you know, from this week, I'm still there. Okay. I thought you talked about the tuna can. There's also a tuna can sink.
That will go down.
How was it?
That's the thing. That's what I find interesting. It's not even me being a gronk that's collective at this point.
It's, it's like no one's using them anyway. Yeah. But anyway, that's probably that's
that's an do. I went to the gym this week. And I decided to be and I never have been this guy. The guy that wears thongs in the shower. And a lot of people choose to wear thongs in the shower. I think
to do that would you know for like tinea
athlete's foot. So this is what I've had athlete's foot. I've just had fought because I'm not an athlete. But I've like I've done Club Sport sharing, you know, those venues, kickboxing, getting sweaty ferry their gyms worked in gyms. Never, never, never, we won't talk about athlete's foot, maybe two years ago, two to three years ago. And it was annoying. And I was just like the just look like blisters on the bottom my foot. And it looked like a fucking bit of a rash. But I don't know where I got it from. I don't know if it was from a shower. But I thought if over the years if I've been going to the gym since I was 15 I'm 3015 years having once is a low probability. It's recording Megan athlete's foot. And so that's why I was always like, shit about thongs. I won't wear him in the shower. I see all these other people walking around with songs. And I was like, All right, I'll just try songs. And so the other night but why what was the catalyst? I don't know. I was like, I'm just
gonna do something different. I will tell you
this I train at night. And I usually go like this. So I have my bag was I just this my clothes that I'm wearing right now? It's like hoodie in jeans and runners. But then I get into my exercise gear. Go train. I don't want to get back into this shit. Because I don't have to then put new socks on annoying and so I put track ease on and I was like, maybe this will this means I don't have to do my shoe. I don't have to put socks and then shoes back on which is annoying after you've been waiting so you know cold and shit. And so I just was like fuck it I'll just wear thongs and so I wore them into the shower. I felt worried about it because I was it felt like I had shoes on
just did you know
what it felt
it felt We Should I continue this and then you were going home afterwards? Yeah, just
went home. That's what I just don't understand what this the gym thing Michelle was. I thought the point of a shower was to use it if you were going somewhere else. Yeah, if you're going home just use the shower at home.
You don't have a kid there's no chances I never been to I
went to Thailand you went to the
bully bully you guys really really realising the chip you don't want to do it all at the gym? Yeah, I literally get home and I feel really good walking on the gym, you go to the gym, you share at the gym, I shower
at home. However, when I used to train in the morning, I would shell out the gym versus going home and sharing Yeah, and then from an efficiency point of view I like the efficiency of like I'm leaving the gym and I'm like ready to attack the day don't have to go somewhere else inshallah
Yeah, I just don't want to do at home because it's a noisy mix up buddy much easier. I think
you've established already like the towel rack for me is a big pool so I will go home to the to the gym.
Yeah, cuz otherwise it would be like
Mr. 97 is a to shower a day guy. Showers a day What do you do? Not always Oh really? It's not a it's not a strict for me.
You have to obviously prep the Skin Food if I tell
you to shower gal just
depends. yesterday. Yes.
But I watch normal is for you.
To be honest. You're not getting the reaction that you hoped for.
I know. Yeah, I thought Mr. 97 was just a you know, spoiled little brat using his mommy and daddy's hot water.
I mean, maybe is definitely
in apartment. Yeah, we pay water you know? We do I think so.
Don't pay water there's no chance unless it's bringing up on tomorrow show them has to be made it so every one of the apartments needs it needs to be made it most of them. I can safely say most of the old apartment box. You don't pay water based on it being there. They weren't able to split the water and work out what advice is getting powers different than
what I thought I'm going to a day. You have a question? Yeah, I wonder if it's like a maybe it's a family thing with kids and
I forgotten. I see. gronk
but you've also you forget as well I forgotten.
Forgotten, but I really got in child does. Give us a baby. Time to that. Yeah. So times you're thinking about yourself at times that for someone else, and then
I could understand more. I guess now that's me. I was thinking I could understand more forgetting to bite him. But maybe
you know what, I have forgotten I
forget I had
brushing teeth like and I and I got really annoyed at myself because I was like you forgot to brush your teeth. Nobody's okay. It's like because you've got to start routines like they thrive off or when
did I get here? Yeah,
have you seen Bodie? Little he's got such a full set. Dude.
It's pretty young or I've been holding this chip because I know it's very crunchy. Yeah
I know that he's got teeth but when did he when does one get a
full node spread with a little
boat over He's
so funny. He's new favourite thing to do in the shower is live back with his head in the water. But you get you get kids get around six months. Eight months a year some kids are speaking by you have a facilities by you.
Any of you guys sit in the show? Wow.
ankles but he's only it's only to do the thing like it.
Really sit in the annual do it to very rarely it means I'm either like brutally hungry. More feel sick. And it happened to me last week. I felt sick. To the point where I had to sit in the shower. Yeah,
carry the doll put a season
for him. Not to say too much. She's not talking like a plastic.
Yeah, I feel like we think about I'm going to shower. You I never put my bomb close to the floor. Fitness first, shall we say our own floor in a shower? clean as a whistle.
You know, like this? It would be cleaner. Potentially not hundred
percent clean. But I'm just saying that it's if you had a bad foot, you're in your own shower. Yeah, it's probably just as dirty as the other showers.
You know, make sense? I was I was asking the boys three day deal and Mr. Nice seven for potential icebreakers questions that they could ask that could spark some social conversation for Mr. Nice Evan, we'll start we'll start with you because you were the lesser cane of the two of you in regards to effectiveness.
Yeah, a little bit.
what's what's a what question have do you have for us as a bit of an icebreaker?
Well, we had it we had a semi good one before the show, which was your semi before the show.
I'm sorry. So
I'm gonna go.
Semi jog on we can banter.
Live on here. It's just
one of the chat.
Now you, you would die Sebastian playing on your Spotify. So I'm wondering what the most recent song you guys have been playing on Spotify?
it's not bad. That was a
really good one. I like it, saying if it's later on in the like, if it's the second or third date, I think a really good one is it's a bit of like a truth or dare type of deal. But being like swap phones and you get to look in the deleted photos like whatever. Yeah.
Why would say no.
I would let you now do that. But no, but not when I was a single boy. I don't think I don't think even if there was nothing incriminating, like not even deep shots. It's like could be just I don't know, this could be something that someone sent you and you're like, I don't want that or I don't know.
It's been very rare that I delete. It's been a photo. You've had
one girlfriend? Yeah.
Can we get it? Sure?
Sure, it would, it would be great to have her on at some point.
It would be good to do some form of reunion
that I'm sending an email saying Can I come in and watch?
As long as we can have? You know, Jesse?
Nah, she lives in Singapore. Not a chance. Not just for I don't even know where you live in Singapore, but just not a chance. I didn't think if we did a live show from Singapore. It'd be like, it would be like me having my primary school girlfriend on the show. I'd have to go that I'm sure.
shorty. Down playing sports ready, you know?
Yeah. Well, I had a I had a serious relationship.
Should we answer 96 question? Yeah, so I can TJ will have sounded like an LC Bob. bossy, but what's last
played in my Spotify. I'd want to buy his favourite songs. more of us. He bought more of us. He bought storms here. UK rapper
and that's what you'll find before. P Yeah. And what's the new dab? It's your
lines into these. My boys don't dab they just Fauci Bob. But it sounds like you saying my my boys don't die. We just yc but because he's such good. What
is he the bossy by I don't
know. It's like this thing where you lean? And it's hard. It's
like a dad like dad's easy.
dabs are so fun
look. Yeah, it looks like you're doing the Macarena if you do it up straight. Anyway,
anyway, so that was the last one What about you paint? I think probably a V cheese new album. I watched the documentary on it he on Netflix and then I heard there was a new album so I've been checking that it's pretty
good three to do really good. He's
good. Did they do it after the fact cuz he's passed away he
had access to ease so I think you've been working with that. Yeah,
I wonder I wonder. Like if I was to die I wonder how many files and how many files and shit people will actually like, how much time would everyone spend like going through my hard drive?
I'm going to be pretty important Rick and just put them to the side and and just
I mean don't you think that you do a little highlights package the show?
Yeah, do a final send off. Yeah, and when I say I do you know the gossip about Taylor Swift and Scooter Braun? Have you
seen I've seen it. Chris is a bit of a test with all you know what this is gonna annoy him but I'll tell you before we started going out he went to a tow swift concert with one of these like mates. Wow, really?
Yeah, I even can't stand really understand the appeal. Mr. 97
singing is hot out yet de just headphones on. And all you hear
is no base to the song.
Can we confirm that? That's like you're into Taylor Swift. Quite be quite full on. I wouldn't say big. Listen to her stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. Sure.
older stuff. What do you like? nods for the older stuff.
Yeah, this is Chris diamond. Yeah. Not country anymore. He's she
can The reason I bring up with so all her music has been purchased by Scooter Braun. Yeah, Roy is the person who discovered or started managing
and then I had a former Yeah, Ron day.
No, no. So the record label that had signed, Tyler had all the rights to a music. scooter bought the record label. He now becomes the owner of every one of Taylor Swift songs. The rights.
Yeah, but rolling out. Hey, Shay says that he's been bullying her for like a decade.
Only it's like you bullied bought the company that you work for?
Yeah, yeah. And she's saying give me all my music back with whatever it is. But then you go, these things are so high because you you read what his wife has said, you read what Bieber say that are close to the air. And all sounds like he he's not the problem he just bought and her dad knew about
shareholder in the company. So he would have had to vote. Yeah, as part of her storey was she only found out like when the press found out.
What did you guys find out about Ben Swift's? Yeah. So the big thing happened? She put out an Insta storey she had a swipe up, link. I found it through that I think. Yes, I did.
It's amazing how much your mind is warped, though, by what you follow on social media. Because I assumed we follow Sam. I think Sam Mac was one of the only people that we follow on Instagram that was nominated for like for a gold lucky. And so based on what he was putting out on online, I was like, well, he's gotta win. But it's crazy to think that like there's other people doing other shit. I guess that's the point to the shameless. stuff can be a bit.
I don't really follow celebrities. What the girls talk about.
So you're in the shameless bubble. And I say you in that group, like non stop. I'm just like,
I'm not gonna stop. It's just that you would get a notification.
Would you post every day?
Oh, god, no, no. control of the log is red carpet fright. Because
I think we've got a gym. You're very savvy. When it comes to social media. You far outweigh us in terms of follower base in your tribe. you've built your gronk squad. Well, do you have a name for your? Your?
No, I don't, but perhaps your brains don't need Yeah, perhaps that's the next step.
What words do you like? Oh, no, I mean, you're the copyright. It's not why I was going where I was going with it anyway.
task, but so you're, you're someone who I think, is spending quite a bit of time on social media. Be fair to say yes. Like I noticed when I checked the storeys of usually view them. So we were hot on your
you guys come up first. Fuck yeah, yeah.
gronk through. What sets that up? Do you think
it's based on how often I store? Right?
Yeah. So if you happen to actually got a crush on all of you.
If there is why does this girl in a bikini keep showing up in my top? Yes, you keep looking at it.
But actually, we should look at everyone's explore Instagram because I feel like that will exist instead of the deleted photos which was Yeah.
said that the the, the whole reason is to find something that isn't great, right? Because then there's Why you so defensive, I'm fine. I'm squeak Gleaner. Hey, guys.
I'm curious as to what your explore function actually looks like. I'm squeaky clean.
guys doing noting fires and yeah, just gorillas going up. Man the trays just just
show Jim you're. You're on there. It's a part of your business. Pay was listening podcast last night. The long and the short of it. Back in bit peace. Josh Janssen got a message mentioned I didn't
appreciate about how I feel every time I listen to this show. And I'm not mentioned which is not a
great pause. Great podcast and listen to in time and a half of speech double speech one, because you guys speak very slowly and articulately. And Pete's podcaster. And Pete and Jenna, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, not Jenna. Jenna, anyway. Yeah, but I was into a double spade, but
you've been doing
this as a cut for a testimonial.
Been doing a you could have been mentioned that I mentioned something about your voice. That would have been nice. Sorry. Next time, we've got more episodes coming. Okay, gronk sneaking there, please. You didn't experiment over the last month or something or so? Talk about it.
So we did an experiment on Instagram to essentially test a hypothesis, which was can you create more to a interactions with the listeners on Instagram, because I think with the podcast and you guys would know this is very often it's like, you hear you see the number of listeners but you don't know who they are, you don't see them, you can interact with them really other than one way. And so we tested a experiment on Instagram to see what it would be like to to create multi way conversation, essentially. And the short of it is ahead of the experiment. It took up so much of my time. And I started getting anxious about what to post went to post the fact that people have replied and I haven't replied back to them and all of these things. And it gave me such a mad respect for people like you, Gemma and 97. And you guys are doing the daily talk show Instagram, in realising it's just it's not for me, and it's not a good use of my time. So we actually it was Capri. You
the the amount of time that you spend because we were talking about the fact that you could just delete the app, spend Friday, posted, you know, post once a week or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So not to give away the episode. But you're right. I could, if I was more discipline post and then turn the app off or delete the app, but I think it was recognising in myself, I have that personality of like, Oh, I wonder if someone's given us a comment. And then I can come back and have a conversation with them. Because Because that was the point of it. So well the unread thing like sayings, someone has written to us, the biggest frustration is now it seems like Instagram's hiding. He used to be able to go into dams, and you'll be able to see the last message they sent it. It was bold. But now if they've sent multiple messages, it will say three.
So you don't get the gist, because I sort of want to be understand where it's going before I click
anything. You think that's on purpose? Yeah,
reckon that's Instagram. Yeah. So this is the other thing is what we're talking about is like, these apps are designed that way. He's like, I fell into the trap of what it's designed for, which is to get you constantly hooked and constantly looking for more dopamine hits. And as a result, I became anxious about it. And so the recognition was I need to step away, which is what I'm going to do.
So there's a few ways of looking at it. And that's what you explore a bunch of this of things around the result. For you, Gemma. It worked. Right? And it does work.
Yeah. And so I don't have I'm not like that. I'm very lucky. No having my phone on me. beliefs. Like I'm on the couch
right now, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, I just, I just don't care enough. I think that's what it is. But I bet this is Michelle zero asking about this, because I don't really post anything that's like not work related on there. Because,
yeah, it's just it's all where
I just I don't want to be on it all the time.
But I think just like you're very responsive. Like, I'd say, you're up there with the best, the best of the best.
Yeah, but it's, it's just on my own terms. Like I'm never if I'm out I'm not on my phone,
is also to carve out time to like, specifically look at, or just whenever,
it's just whenever, but it's normally like while I'm working, because a lot of it is just writing captions and stuff. So I've got a bait on it. But yeah, but people will ask questions about makeup and skincare all the time. And if I don't have the time to actually respond to them, I'll just write back saying like, I've seen this I'm not just like leaving you on read, I will write back to you during the
show. What if it worked? Like what if it grew your listenership it grew it likes that's what I always think what if it worked, you think you're thinking around it, or you saw that Instagram, the feelings at a, at a smallish level is was anxiety producing,
I think it was that. And also the realisation for us is the people that tend to listen to our podcast, a lot of them don't necessarily go on or interact with Instagram that much. We have a percentage of them that do, which were the ones that followed us, which was the other thing was the people that are following us are people that we already have existing relationships with where we can communicate with them in other ways. It doesn't have to be through this medium. So it does work though. The thing is that like I was thinking about your podcast more interesting. And so that's now I have to resurrect the
always liking the colour palette, I was thinking, I love how you swipe across and you see different sort of messages. I get this a lot of work.
And I mean, you're deconstructing it from a very sort of meta platform like I'm getting off on aspect ratios in colour palettes are I enjoyed that part of it actually, like the creative part of like, coming up with the theme in the book and making sure it's consistent. Like I quite like that, that's
probably my favourite part. I just
always think if these things work for us, right, so if you put in that effort, and it was 10 x result, yeah. Would your mindset be different? Do you think we would approach it differently? Do you think the people who get to 15 episodes would actually keep going doing a podcast? Will that continue? I think all these things online, it's like,
well, if it was meant to be if it was, if your audience was there, then it naturally if all of the things that have been positive experiences, and then it would have resulted in something that was better. And it is one of those things that it's like a month is probably not that much of a time to actually give it time to see if it's got legs and I'm sure if we committed more time to it exactly like you guys have done, you've committed to it over a longer period of time, it would potentially grow. But for us, it was the reward of that we can get that elsewhere. News, we can get that elsewhere, which what we're going to do is have an email list which all of the things that we shared on Instagram, like what books were listening to what podcasts were listening to a quote from the episode, we're just going to that into an episode into an email, which takes less time it's less anxiety producing, and for us, we think it delivers the same amount of value to the listeners. So that was kind of the assertion we made, but maybe we're missing out.
Well, I think there's like don't overthink it. But yeah, I don't think we can look at both of those ways. I feel like you're not you don't overthink it
Not in the slightest I think if I thought more about it I have better off the x but I just added night like I just don't care so much for numbers I know that I'm working I'm consistently getting work so like whatever I'm doing is working so as long as I just keep that up in
the bucket the bucket ain't broken don't fix it. The Why don't think the last
time with buckets slightly.
Yeah, he's all about
literally because there was a bunch of buckets it's really important if it ain't broke don't fix Yeah, that's the one
you've got weekend banter. It's a raw Sorry, I need to pick up anyone's fuck up.
We have another game that we like to play.
And we've also got to get fight game went well. Yeah.
That's okay, because we're finishing the game. Anyway.
I'm an Apple Music gal. So it's like
yeah, you guys sharing a family?
Only two people to use Apple. Apple Apple Music. Music.
I like it. We should do a poll. Yeah, maybe see who uses well that's a good idea. I used it for the first year when I got Telstra because they were offering free for a year. Yeah, I wasn't paying
for Spotify and Apple Music at the same time because Apple Music was all you could play on my Apple watch at annoyingly i the only reason it was for running.
And so the thing is good jack. Good jack. Well done. Running the you can ask Siri to play any song. That's the good thing. Oh, she doesn't
work through us. I just asked you to pick on so that you do
have Apple Music? No, no, no, I when you do have it, you can play it. So I went through this time where I kept on asking you songs and she was given them to me. And then all of a sudden I ask it she said sorry. I don't understand that say whatever. He
is very annoyed. passive aggressive.
What's the song What music was this morning?
I would obscure it this morning. I was listening to a yellow Greatest Hits.
What's a lot electric last
I love that
very early. 1990s late 1970
full orchestra know
what's the bet What's this a specific would you sing it for what's
one that's like about lights don't
shine is the name of how does it go to you just started?
shine. What does it
come out of actually? elton john elton john.
It's because you saw the movie. Yeah.
Okay, I'm such a
Spotify and then recently played not by me is Amy. The boy what's the song with that main song? Is all of them my song candle in the wind? It's your song.
is not my songs. yourself.
She's done the same. It's great for that. That's what these movies are doing. I have no I'm wondering any purple snakes.
Snakes though, are they were they all the ones from the dead? There's a few are Thank you. This is a three day build. What was your question your icebreaker question? Well,
it was more fitting for when we were actually on that train of thought in the conversation like 20 minutes.
Yeah, but everyone was talking about dating. So since everyone at the table right now is is in a relationship. We go. What's the most? Is this something I'm curious about is what is the most awkward thing you've done on a date that you can remember? Okay, great. We'll start a new Josh.
Maybe you had a few partners like you have had a couple of your friends. I think the classroom is like real real patent. Yeah,
I think I was old enough and inside together for fair whack of time.
So I'm just trying to
have you been in a long term relationship for a while. Yeah. Hello.
I was out anniversary on Saturday.
Congratulations. Yeah. Can we give him a name? Some kind of character name? And company, Chris. Yeah.
I'm just calling the GP.
I love the idea of the image of you.
It comes out that's why you
may dining pain when ash Williams was on the show. Ash Williams and Josh is like you guys would be really nice.
It'd be great to connect up some gronk. Like, how long until there's the first gronk kid based on a gronk relationship?
Yeah, I mean, that's that's huge leg. That's the journey. Yeah.
It has to be a book launch. There has to be a policy of
a little bit of mixing going on.
With some mingling and some mixing. Yeah. Which,
so chippy, Chris, what? I got cam. Was there anything when you first got together?
Nothing. I mean, I
don't know. I don't know. I feel like the circumstances in which we became boyfriend and girlfriend is just I don't know if it's an awkward storey. But we went. We'd been like sort of dating and then we were at the hop hotel. Thank you very classy, very on brand for me. And these guys right here. This guy that was friends with an ex of mine came up and was like, Hi, do you want to say a photo of my dick? And I was like, not even a bit of me wants to say I don't want that. And he's like, No, no, no, like, I'll show you it. It's like next to a Corona bottle. So you get an idea of size comparison. Then I know this is an actual conversation. And then this is Chris know.
You know, the corona bottles.
It's like, Oh, hey, is getting at his farm to text Chris from across the room. And I'm like, so it. And then Hayes come over and put his arm around me and he's like, Hi, can you stop hassling my girlfriend. That was the first time he'd called me his girlfriend. And then we were both like, Oh, we haven't used that word before. And he was like, oh, okay,
I thought that was it. Yeah.
I mean, that's our anniversary. We were like, how do we work out when we
always have a corner on the end of us? That is
a horrible pick up on that guy was trying to say yeah, but he
had the vaping like stalking me a little bit as well. Shopping on place. Yeah. At my uni one day, I was like, oh my god. Well, the chances are pretty high.
Yeah, that's not ideal.
I haven't. I've bumped lips while kiss it like bumped my face while kissing and I've tasted
blood. Whoa. Before. What? Because you hit so hard.
I can't just kiss hard. I've had that happen before. I've had that happen during the day. Yeah. Which is awkward because you like he kind of just push through to acknowledge it. Not
like is it like a metallic key on blood ties?
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe she'd been sucking on coins or something.
Yeah. Yeah. And I never tasted a storey. I took a girl on a date to the circus, which I thought was a great idea. Looks good. She got taken up. The whole
audience participation is my worst.
She was actually stumped to death. By the
way. What ended up happening?
No. Nothing happened with that relationship was literally the last day last bit better was I?
Yeah, that's not that's not a good outcome.
Now, wasn't it? So
the circus was the bad babe.
artist. I think that it's, it's memorable. And that's how I see it. You could also say this, and like a bit much. Did you ever read the game?
Yeah, I did. Did you read the game? I didn't
I listened to the audio book of the game. I think it goes
into detail. Right?
I was already with Brady. Okay. So but but it's so have are used as a way of gaining friends. Okay.
Yeah. This techniques. Yes.
It's not, it's not it's not so much that no, but it's just like the being confident. Like p cocking. Like, wearing assets can be a peak up. Yeah, I've heard about everything. The problem is
there. It's an instruction manual. And if you actually follow it, it's you know, it's like take little bits. You know, it's like don't you'll seem like a klutz advice. Say don't fucking ask these questions.
Which is Spotify list? is pretty
just, I mean, it's, it's the
I think. I think it's also the that's like the modern day like, What music do you like? Really? Isn't it? What
I think What music do you like is a sheet question, but that's why see fit question. Okay, sure.
I get I got this morning. I was reading an article
I want to find out Peter had an awkward bit. TweetDeck did you want to tell the storey first. Real quick. It was I was like 19 and it was one of my first dates. And I remember I went and brought I grew up in Ocean Grove. So I was very much in that surf coast vibe. And I went to Quicksilver and brought like, a brand new pair of khaki pants. Colour grey like that kind of guy mile grey
Hawk. I was like, that's a lot of living right. But I didn't go to the beach once
all the time. I'm like, you guys.
So I brought sorry now I mile greyed Trekkies kind of wrote like a aqua blue Quicksilver hoodie with a big Quicksilver sign on it. Okay, and we went out to lunch and I was in tracksuit pants and a bright blue hoodie and I just looked back on it like what was
his face? Because I recognise
Wow. I was in Ballarat to
you know, now he is and he's Quicksilver I thought I was killing it the damn didn't guess it. Well,
not another died. Oh, you know, actually, we did it for a little bit longer. But yeah, yeah, it's great. I mean, that's the vibe of down the south coast all Ballarat to
Yeah, but I think the way that TJ talks about his childhood I get this sense of like
I don't know like I imagined like the hills of Laguna Beach or something like that. Anyway, I showed photos the other day. It would just look fucking disgusting. I was a late there was a photo of you in some song last night
there was some Yeah, the sunglasses that were in fashion. They just were they
looked at me like he's
like this is like the Rice's like family died I can't remember what year that was going to be wearing a miniskirt pink Ugg boots bondage cap in Fonda just a brand almost similar like that that had like the patch stuck on to the trucker hat okay it's it you know then I can
imagine like Jessica Simpson wearing Yeah,
They said brands will come through those on that Tiger one you know the what was that called?
so burger but I bought a shirt
and Hardy juice jumpers
Yeah, Ed Hardy there's actually a shit version of Ed Hardy that said one of the DFL was
just like because I thought this is Ed Hardy and someone said no like it's actually
like that. It's like a one word.
It was so shit I
think like fashion stuff. Jimmy people who were fake thing but like owner like it's horrible. What do you mean aren't it but they like they were laying into it. I'm wearing a $700 t shirts they are
but they just wear them yeah, and they are this is
don't own that this they're fake they they
Yeah, yeah, sorry. Okay, so they they were it like it would be Yeah, sure. You know it's not
have strong feelings about
it. What do you think like Balenciaga all these fingers doing that
who's actually like,
a bit embarrassed like this is what I mean. You see a bunch of bogus like, you know t in wearing sort of? They look like they're ready for gamma tennis. Who's 10 the lads team tanza shoes. Yeah, just like think about a lad what you would call a lead. Those kind of people I've seen wearing like the Valencia shoes. I can get it like you can get us these fake you can get all fake stuff. Steal and it's cheap. I couldn't do it but that's the thing. I mean, is that what is it what do you think
I just get I get upset because I like if I want something designer, I save up for it. And then if I say someone with the fight version, I'm like, how do you that insulting? Yeah, like I take it really personally.
Do you think it's true that added s also produced the users that are fakes.
I hope so I've seen
that too. So it's like the brand's go around going to be fact here because there's going to be companies that are going to do rip offs. And we might as well just
go Yeah, well that's what my mom used
to say. This is a big thing now as well look that up Mr. Nice. Oh,
yeah. With best and last mom used to say mango and Malmo same factory.
Mango that would be Yeah, yeah. Kylie Cosmetics was I think it still is made in the same factory as Colour Pop cosmetics controversial. So
the cosmetic thing
Well, how about this? That's very that's the most controversial we're getting on the show.
that was still think about that. The
Yeah, but the know because because we've turned transcriptions on, on our website that's coming very soon to be over the weekend. So every single episode, when you search, you're actually going to be searching. The transcript will be picked up as well. And so some if you if we ever called someone a paedophile, or use their actual name, say john smith, one day is like, Oh, I wonder if anyone's ever said anything about me on the internet. You could type in john smith and be like, oh, I've got to mention and then you could listen to it and be like, you'd
be so annoying. I
think it'll be harder to make a case against me defamation cases against things like podcasts and YouTube videos. more as we go into this world of just content saturation. But you think about what we're doing it's seven days away. It's fucking
easy to lose your job.
I don't know this. What's this about? We lost a job. Someone lost a job. Cummings? Scott Cummings. I don't know.
That's the No, no, no, no, it's the podcast football. When
can we talk about this? We can show our friends at shameless. were taken down by a bunch of gronk
I had some flippant
remarks about the girl was there wasn't opening remarks is they literally like choke grabs from their podcast and fucking Mike delivered that but then it was also the only listened to a little bit of the
second one Listen, guys.
Yeah, why didn't I listened? I listened for I
do and you can sit and you can say that right the writings of shine that that's it which is it's really funny saying is just
gone now as well. I've stopped really, why?
Because I fucked it. But I mean, you you're gonna be able to be more articulate with it.
So what's happened? That happened with Michelle and Zahra? They machines are were told that they'd been discussed and clips they've been played on this show. A funny storey
about when they worked out
Yes, getting their damn k enzyme,
which is like the mass that goes really rock hard and he can't spit. Yeah, they worked. It
looked like a Krispy Kreme boy good wonderful
treatment. Really good when you up? And you know, nevermind, I'm wrong audience.
Yeah, so the girls discussed it on their podcast in just a very them wiling very rational about the whole thing. That is the only time I've spoken about it, which is now two weeks ago. Naturally, the shameless listeners went and negatively reviewed. The Hump Day podcast. I think maybe that team didn't really realise how big the least snake the girls have. So what do
you think they did? Like, I don't want to give them credit by them thinking that that's a way to get attention.
Yeah, that was thrown around as well. But I really don't think Diane.
Yeah, I think that part of it. I think part of it is that like, because what they're even laughing at was showing how tone deaf they were. Because it was they were laughing like Haha, who would who would even like this was like, decades like you've come into this space? Yeah, from an odd like, they're not the audience of what shameless was producing. And so I guess that was the but the how they followed up
Yes. And then what happened from there the boys just kept every day they will more and more posts on Instagram enough that left I won't go into because
they were doing about
it the blokes. Yeah, they just kept on like, I just, I just kept on like, haha, this is all funny, you know what sort of thing
and then got picked up by the Herald Sun. So Susie O'Brien, who wrote the article started also getting harassed by them. So she wrote another article, then the team at the sun started listening to a couple of episodes on the podcast. And there is the same episode where they talk about the girls, they also do a segment where they are reading stuff out from urban dictionary. And some of what they were reading out was describing sexual assault, and they were having a nice little laugh about that. And as it turns out, you actually can't laugh about sexual assault. So yes, that's the end of that.
He lost his job. Where was
he re W. And croc media. I don't think he was doing anything with corporate media at present, but he he won't be for the next 12 months.
I guess. Part of the shame in the whole thing is the fact that they couldn't just see, like the second time around, it felt like it would it would have been nice for them to at least say, like realised like, had enough time to be able to say you know what, we're going to shift gears and realise that like, but to keep provoking and to be
they still out there still going up. But we were just reading off the internet. Maybe Urban Dictionary should lose its job.
Oh, good one. What's funny, knowing these people who are successful, Dan Swan is like football and made a lot of money doing so I was one of the best players in the league, right? It's like, dude, fucking think about everyone who wants to be in your position. Everyone here wants success in their field as much as you've had in yours. Yeah. And to do that to another field. It's just like fucking bad. But that's what you just
manager, bad sports, Mo, just imagine putting on a podcast, and hearing a public figure talking about the shit that you're doing and playing bits and taking it out of context and doing all that sort of shit. Especially, like I was listening to one of the latest episodes or whatever. And Zahra was being really vulnerable. I'm like, I hear this. And then it makes it even funnier. Yeah. And you think about how much worse it makes the whole thing. It's like when they're talking about all these personal things. And they've got people cutting it up and doing all that sort of shit. I think it's a broader thing to have, like, as a creator, to take down another creator. Like talk about gronk world try meaningful content for interesting people or whatever. Yeah, we're trying to serve the people that are interested in hearing what we have to say, like to take people down for doing that. Like it's just yeah, I guess the the the interesting bit is, there's a great book by Jon Ronson called. So you've been publicly shamed. It talks about the mob mentality. And that's why I guess that all of this stuff is interesting, because there is a certain there's, it feels like there's diminishing returns going the other way. So like, I can see things that could have like, we could say shit that would then end up having a mob come after us when it wasn't necessarily just or didn't make sense, or it was within without the context. And so I guess that's why it's hard as well, because it's like, those guys. Those guys double fucked up, because they still got like, there hasn't been any lesson that had been
Yeah, been like, if I come and say sorry, and actually learn from it. If you genuinely have like, I think
it takes a special type of Narcissus to hit rock bottom and then still be blaming everyone else. Yeah,
man. Anyway, guys fucked up a hip hop just says sorry. It's like, you learn I've shed shed on this podcast? I don't think now. Yeah. And I don't believe to be true. And I just actually say it as someone else said it. No, that's not taking away responsibility for signing up. It's like my, my thinking and what I believe in now is just as complete, completely written move.
Yeah. But it's also a willingness. I think that if someone wants to call it out, to actually I think that there's a feeling that you want to just defend yourself. But I also like, I know that I feel she's saying certain things previously. And it's like, oh, you know, what, if it comes up, I'll just say I'm sorry. Like, that's, that's not how I feel about that.
I think the other thing is part of their argument is like, Oh, it's funny. Take a joke, but I just think there are ways of making comedy that doesn't involve putting other people Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah, it was shit. How did you find the response from you? Were on shameless. And you spoke about things that you'd never spoken about, which reminded me of TJ in the show with the songs with you. Yeah,
yeah, I hadn't spoken about it, I think. Um,
yeah. And you can hear when you listen to because the girls had said, Look, do you mind if we ask about toxic workplaces? And I was like, yeah, that's fine. And then I spent the afternoon like, shoot, how much do I spoke about? That I just wanted to tell that storey specifically because I was like, I said, there's so many people and I was 23. At the time, they'd be girls that age, that would be in similarly awkward situations and going like this is mine, because it's such a good opportunity. So for people who didn't hear, can you rehash a little bit? The short version is the where I was working previously, they put me in charge of this massive project in Sydney. So I was up there for two weeks working seven days a week. They put me in a hostel for the two weeks, and I was sharing a room with our videographer who's a bloke 10 years older than me. Yeah.
Which is not only flies business, so he's
that he was even just being in a shitty hotel was hot enough for two weeks when you're working the whole time sharing a room with someone that you're working with his hearts. I like to work in the morning. So he was working through the nights you not really sleeping, but then also being in a room with a dude that I had worked with probably three times before that. Wow. Yeah. And it was all fine. And at the time, I was like these. I mean, what a wonderful opportunity. I'm just, I'm blessed. Yeah, but now I'm looking back. And I'm like, it's not that was weird.
Who's responsible? in those scenarios? Who who should be the one to say,
that doesn't say my company? Fine.
Yeah. I find that interesting, though, because it's like you can, because it has shaped you inside. And so that's part of it, right? But I guess that's part of it. Right? It's like, your willingness to do it. If you didn't have if you hadn't have done it, would you be doing what you're doing? Like all of these things? Like it's it's very strange night? Yes.
What's our and I were talking about, like, you just don't know. Because you don't know what would have come out of the alternative. So you got nothing bad came from it. So the worst problems? worst possible situation didn't happen. Yeah. But you're in a situation where something bad could happen. I'm more likely to happen. I just
took my toiletry bag and phones into my shower at home, Chris. Yeah. Jim, you don't need to do that. Yeah.
I think it's like, the sensitive climate will encourage business owners like I think about that as a business. They're probably like, we've got a cool budget. We're doing this on Ustream. Need do that. But that's not good enough. If something's likely if something bad happens, you got you're hoping like they're lucky. Nothing happened, right? They're lucky what comes out of this is a storey. Yeah, I learned a lesson was like, You can't do that. We don't live in the old anymore. If you're doing that. You're fucking ancient. Yeah. And so
what was the feeling though? telling that storey and knowing that it doesn't paint people in a great light? How was it? What was the sort of emotional
Well, you can see me on the podcast like on the spot deciding do I tell the storey and I'm kind of like going around the edges of it. And then I think at one point, I'm like, Oh, fuck it. I'm just a storey.
Break the tension like TJ a great wife. So maybe you could controversial question.
Do you think you'd get away from with more? Being good looking? Yes. Yeah.
No, I was just thinking about the vision in my mind of that person, the videographer? I don't know. I'd have stopped some, you know, slack wearing polo shirt, black shoes, slightly overweight.
I went more sort of, like could be a makeup artist, but chose videography
not Well, I think that that's less like, I think you got a higher, high, higher chance of people thinking they're not a predator. They're not that never do anything like that. versus if you
watch all the crime, or listen to the crime podcast and all that sort of thing. It's the normal looking psychopaths. You have to be careful off.
Yeah, I wasn't stressed in the slot.
Yeah. Anyway, was that the end of
interesting question, why
do you deal in the beauty space? That's why beauty can be for yourself. It can be for others. There's multiple reasons people do it. But there's also the reality of you know, looking great. I think just in social situations, people aren't looking to you like I just think about I actually have thought about this as me but me as a dad, right? And
you're only one boat barely they have hot friends.
No, but I was just thinking about me talking about Hmm,
how to do that. Here I
as a parent, I interact with children more when I don't even have my kid there because I just feel it's like oh, hey, I'm a high five and I just have this I'm drawn to kids because it's like that vibes right
but you don't have you don't have to add vibes
maybe Yeah, and then I think in this situation, I didn't think I'd know that I haven't already would have a key like you can present
what it looks like. What do you
think is soco? If you woke up? And you like hey, Dori
Why would you say
I was making you a best dad?
That'd be pretty fun.
When is Father's Day actually?
My birthday? Yeah. So this year, it's on my birthday. first Sunday of every
one round of President
now tonight. What are you talking about? They do the Shema. Yeah.
They do the whole thing at Mike. I wonder if they'll do that at play? playground? What's the code? What is it?
That might be something that for Father's Day, but then I was thinking about a situation where? I don't know. I just think people are your past, less judgement, if you're good looking. Weather been a situation where you like, interacting with kids and you like if you're looking at someone who's like he's going in so good. Yeah. I'm okay with that.
Are you okay with that? I mean, saying it. I think I wouldn't get as much work as I do. If I looked different to what I do. I think I mean, people look to me for like, usually advice.
Hey, do you think you good looking? Not really?
I don't really think about it that much. I think you're right. I don't think about it much either. But I do. I also what you just know some facts. We know that deal is a bola who can run a book. It's a fact.
you didn't know the decimal, Mike, you could do decimal What? The half? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's good to know.
But I think you could, I think it's nice to have a sense of what you
are like, I think if it's a terrible personality,
like do you have paid? Do you have days where you look in the mirror and say, I look good today? I think everyone has this. They think I look good today or be awful today? You know?
Yes. It's a very internal conversation. I don't really this this is stuff in your own head.
Yeah. I think there's universal principles. If sometimes some days you think you look good, and others you think you look miserable, because you've everyone's got a benchmark that they're working with. Yeah. And I think to your point of like, do we treat good looking people differently? I think there's unfortunately a bunch of unconscious biases like that, that we have. And if you look at the history of society over the last 300 years, you would say the same thing about males like if you are a male, you're probably going to be treated differently to if you're a female and as a white Western male, we just like won the lottery in the way that we were born in society represents that is something of value and that's not about control. This is complete fluke. So does that if if we do think we're good looking, which I haven't said whether I think I look good looking like us to ask you Josh to the accident actually don't know.
I think you have on a previous episode.
Yeah, I know. I
didn't. I didn't episode. I mean, my silica lie. This really kills the whole vibe. I'm my scout. We've been through. I know. That's what I'm talking about. But that's a true bit. Having a towel that doesn't smell too good. That's not
having physical it is not hot, which we don't have enough.
So talking about it, but I guess maybe I guess he's maybe a more interesting question. Do you associate yourself with someone that's attracted like, oh, sorry, do you consider is it part of your identity? Which I I think that TJ there is a level of your identity, which is, I'm a good looking dude. Like that is part of you're aware, as maybe I think I look okay. But it's, it's not one of my brand values.
I've signed up for what about it? Yeah, deeply. Yeah.
I remember. It was. Like, I honestly, when I was young, at primary school level, like super young, I remember people like girls talking about me, your heart, you know, like, well, that you like it. I get how it embeds in to
be conditioned to
dance. I never saw it that way. Well, it was their fault. Columbia But no, I get that right. But I didn't think about it to that level.
Someone was talking about me on the train last night I found out a girl I used to work with Yeah, there was a guy that was like on my Instagram or Facebook or something was saying to his friend like I went to high school with this chick and then googled me on the train and then my friend sitting behind him I just taking notes. I think it was
I wonder it's pretty crazy. Like Michelle Lanzarote would get that a bit now with like, yeah, shameless. It is crazy to think
well, Michelle's boyfriend has people coming out to him now. That's
Yeah, let's let's throw back to the the three day Dylan Mr. 97. wrap this up. But yeah, what do we get into? Oh, yeah,
it has been weekend Banta it does go fast. When this fall here,
I wanted to let's let's address the elephant in the room. What's the elephant? The book.
Okay, and so we said we said that we weren't going to talk about it. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I'm actually glad I wanted to celebrate let's give everyone three day delay clack doing his book. I did get angry last night and he did follow it up with a really nice messy inspirational which is the most annoying thing when
it's extremely annoying.
Exactly. It's just Yeah, he's he's run them as he's run the marathon. And he's he's finished first and I'm still running
on the megaphone guy guys everyone.
Josh it actually reminds me of Chris the captain of the old footy team that was in with who would no one was allowed to stop trying to I wanted done two laps. And so he thought it was a good idea that because I was the last one, he would then get the team to do the last lap again with me because I'd only done one
at the playground, the outside workout joint in St Kilda on the beach. And there was some footage kids training. And now we're doing a time trial and said like 20 kids got back and then they're all just set up this tunnel with our clapping on either side. And the fat kids were running through this I get it my get it.
It also now that he knows that he's the fat slob?
Because it actually it? Yeah, it's it's a nightmare. Because the thing is when you're running and you're puffed, and then you just sort of see them gliding next to you as well just sort of, and they can talk I can talk.
And then I would just like to end up being like no guide you. You just start training. I'm fine. You guys.
Were doing this. It's like it was an absolute nightmare. So I felt like that. But um, yeah, we don't have to talk about the book. But the alien. We let it Yeah, well, well, what I will say is that it was all connected to charity. So it's all happening. And it's very close to being finished. Yeah. And so that's that's a while side
want me to stop giving you shit about it? Yes.
Yeah, I think we stop we stop
having to wait.
Because you know what? I realised last night. I was doing. I was writing and then
you think about to bang lives?
Yeah, I was doing lives and stuff. And then I think Brian was like, and cuz she's always the first one that got it. You got to get it done. You got to do it. And that's something I've been very stressed because we've had it that's on like, there's actual work that needs to be done. Right. You said like mate, like she goes, you know, you find you shouldn't have told everyone that you can do four hours a night like that was chilly. And so yeah, we spoke about like a better plan that takes a little bit longer. But there'll be a milestone and we'll talk about it more, celebrate me when that happens. And until then we'll shut the fuck.
I would love that the three day deal is running alongside. That'll be great with a megaphone on my fifth lap and your
megaphone, we definitely want to get a megaphone and we also have made the promise of the microscope and we'll definitely be doing that. So this has been weekend banter just very quickly before we go retrospectively looking looking back at the episode,
What do we what do we but not not looking? far back in regards to every episode but today's episode, what do we think to feel differently? Should we change anything?
People brings up an energy five, six people in the room is definitely it goes fast. Yeah, we're gonna finish at 4pm Yeah, it's very gentle as well. It just goes out. You find your favourite podcast is about 20 minutes where you just find in your favour. Yeah, and just go for
hours. We nearly cold the podcast you remember the other names are nearly quarter TJ probably not not the tangent. It was sort of because it was like we're going to go
in today. But the problem is spelling tangent. No T. I energy intake GMT. Yeah, I just wasn't sure if you're a very
good. Well, and on that note, yeah, absolutely. Thanks for listening. This is the idea of we can banter is it's meant to be a little bit looser, it can be
the other episodes.
Every time I come in here,
just to one point, I think that part of it is that we can well people understand what's going on we understand the vernacular, we understand the the world that we've created, which is a gronk squad. So what
I like is that rather than using this extra episode as an opportunity to extend to the Friends of the show, you've just brought back the only two
we put together a spreadsheet of everyone that's been on for more than who do we have if you look at the spreadsheet
on the most
Yeah, we can you go from the top from the top. Nice. who's done three? Who do we have access to? We can banter because initially we said we can banter. You had to be on the show three times before you come on. Which I don't think we're gonna have to change that role with every others there would be
Yeah, there's a guy Craig hapa. Jules visuals.
Maddie Avella, Ron john Craig hapa. And then Jim and pate.
Trevor and Jules
so many women lot
yeah, we like to have very
very motivational white guys and a lot of coaches
it's actually a lot of truth today.
Why was your podcast going off so bit like it's there's a lot of people watching it upload journal. It's really what it's like as
soon as well no, it's a really
yeah, that's what I mean. Like saying it in the top I think was like top 10 or top three or something.
Right? Yeah, but it normally charts in the arts chart. Most the time I just happened to look at
it and you haven't you feel like you don't share it that much because I didn't realise that.
Right now what's happening is a classic we're about to finish but we'll go into another another
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