The Back Crack's Coming

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 347, and the first episode that I'm doing without wearing a hat.

Josh: Ah, congratulations!

Tommy: Yeah, no problem, mate. Uh, thanks for the applause. No, I just left my hat at home.

Josh: Oh, and I thought, yeah, it's getting there.

Tommy: I'm not going to be a big baby. And you know, imagine if I didn't come to work because I didn't have my hat, like if I didn't come to work because my AirPods weren't charged. I mean, it sounds as crazy as that, right? It did happen, but don't You don't like my honesty? No, Josh rocked up late this morning, says, guys, the reason for my lateness was my AirPods weren't charged, so I couldn't walk. I was thinking you could have called me, dude. We could have had a nice convo.

Josh: My phone, like, up to my face, I always feel like there's extra radiation.

Tommy: No one else?

Josh: Do you feel it's like it's heating?

Tommy: I know what you mean.

Josh: It feels like it's heating my fucking brain.

Tommy: It does heat because it's being powered. It is hot, but it does get hotter. I think phones nowadays are less and less. But I was thinking, I haven't told you. So Bodhi's got long hair. We've got long hair. We've almost got similar hair. Like mine's in a bit of a bun.

Josh: He's got blonde, light blonde hair. You've got dark hair.

Tommy: Yeah. But it is ruthless the mistakes people are making on him being a little boy because they're mistaking him for a little girl. And I think people just like to have something to sort of be able to, you know, put the label on of like, I know who I'm talking to. And this one, he does little kickers. Dylan saw him in his little kickers outfit on Saturdays.

Josh: What is Little Kickers?

Tommy: Little Kickers is soccer, the world game. It's just like a little get-together.

Josh: Is golf the world game?

Tommy: Golf is not the world game. The world game is soccer, which is football, but football in Australia is not necessarily soccer. So I'm confusing everyone, but it is with a soccer ball. As annoyed I was that it wasn't football to start with, I'm happy to go with soccer. Well, yeah, this is— Amy found this. It's like a 6-week programme and you go every Saturday morning.

Josh: Why not?

Tommy: He's not old enough yet. Okay, so he's way too young. I'm actually going to get him into Brazilian jiu-jitsu at age 4. I think it'll be great for him, know how to wrestle. Okay, get around. I think you'd really like it too.

Josh: And so what's happening during these little kicker events?

Tommy: This— so this is the second time he went. First time he went, Amy had a meltdown, was crying. Great, because he was being a little rodent. That had escaped from a pen. And so the problem was we got there early 'cause I'm an early guy. So are you, you'd like to get, except for this morning.

Josh: AirPods.

Tommy: Except for this morning, unless the AirPods are—

Josh: But I did communicate, like it wasn't like I slacked everyone.

Tommy: So there was some learnings from the first little kickers to the second. First is get there, if not 1 minute past 9 or a little bit later because—

Josh: It starts at 9?

Tommy: It starts at 9, but they didn't even get going till 9:05 this time. So we were smack on 9, but before we got there 15 minutes before. So 15 minutes is a lengthy portion of the whole entire class. So his attention's like on for 15 minutes when we get there, he's kicking balls around and getting ready. But then when the class starts, he went, he was bored. He just couldn't be stuffed. And he was in a bit of a mood as well. And so he was the worst behaved kid out of 7 kids. And it was hell.

Josh: And Amy cried.

Tommy: Yeah, she cried. Because you're looking around as a parent, you're just like, when you see other kids behaving, it's really hard, dude. This week, fucking Bodhi was a superstar. It was best. He was one of best on ground, not for his ability to play soccer, just this other kid was just running around, didn't want to be a part of it. And there was a new teacher this week and she just said, um, she went through the, you know, what is your name? And she got to Bodhi and said, now little miss, what is your name? He just says Bodhi. And then she So she butchered that to start with, and then she started calling him Brody. But the best thing was the other teacher who was there the first week knows that he's a little boy named Bodhi, and she just let the other woman just sink.

Josh: Wait, I want to get back to the Amy crying thing. Do you have to step up in that moment as a parent? Like, what does Amy just take 5?

Tommy: It was so this— so what we worked out also is like you gotta have turns managing. So Amy managed him for half of the second time and then I jumped in. But yeah, so we were going back and forth and it was just frantic. And so there was, we were probably both micromanaging each other, if not me micromanaging her more than the other way. But it was at the very end where she just, it was, she was at the end of her tether. It was, it was not good, but he came back strong the next week. So I'm happy about that.

Josh: Great.

Tommy: So I did think, um, we need some kind of sting or some kind of sound effect because there's a lot of, uh, reporting that needs to happen on this show of what we're seeing in this area. Yeah, so I was thinking we can work on it, some sort of news gathering or like, um, something ACA.

Josh: Maybe that's Simpsons.

Tommy: Oh no, you were doing, um, bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. That was like Life— like, not Lifeline, like Nightline or something.

Josh: I think I still did— was that The Simpsons again?

Tommy: Mr. 97, what the fuck's The Simpsons? I was born in 2000. Were you born in 2000? No, 1999.

Josh: 999.

Tommy: But I think we could find something. Maybe you could even voice something like a Tracy Grimshaw or ACA style. Another report. Because I saw something this morning, just quickly. It's coming out of the supermarket area.

Josh: We have 3D Dill on standby who's going to be doing a back crack very soon. So that's my piece of content. So go on.

Tommy: If you're bored of this story, there's some, some big cracks.

Josh: And so Dill's trying to stay as still as possible because if he fucking cracks his back before we get it on mic. Yeah.

Tommy: Do you want to go to the back crack first? I'm happy to.

Josh: No, I like this tease.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: The back crack's coming. Go on.

Tommy: So you're at Woolworths and I just see this guy. He was quite well dressed. I mean, he looked like a bit of a lad. So he looked like, you know, it looks like a lad. Look like he could easily play a round of tennis with his mate any moment because he's wearing runners, you know, like that sort of— just look up lads.

Josh: Have you heard of Midtown Uniforms? No.

Tommy: What's something to do with New York City?

Josh: Yeah, I started following them on Instagram. It's the— it's like a shirt and they wear a vest sleeveless vest. Oh yeah, or whatever. It's like a strong look, but, uh, oh yeah, Midtown.

Tommy: Mr. 97's showing us a photo.

Josh: It's sort of the Midtown uniform. I do—

Tommy: what, that's just like a wanker from law school.

Josh: Yeah, you reckon? Like, it's just a bit chilly, I didn't want to wear a full arm.

Tommy: Yeah, so I'm just cutting them off wearing a vest.

Josh: It has that vibe.

Tommy: They're very Melbourne though. There's a lot of— I want to get a vest soon. I'll get a vest for this winter, I think.

Josh: And so anyway, you see this lad.

Tommy: Yeah, I see this lad, could play some sport any moment, and he was— you could tell that he was a part of the heroin community.

Josh: Why?

Tommy: Just his, just desperation in his face, which is very sad amongst many, many people here. So I'm walking towards, and he's talking to this woman, but he was almost like he looked like he just had a shower, and so he's looking fresh, and so was this woman. She was going to work, obviously. You know, in a work attire. So they kind of blended in to start with, but then I was like, oh no, something's happening here. And he's got this box, like this sort of like— it looked like a camera, sort of like a mini Pelican case, just something to keep your camera safe. And I just see him opening it, and he was trying to flog her a drone. Oh, I think he picked the wrong target market because she said, what is that? He's like I just heard him just say this, oh, you know, it's one of those things that you shoot up into the air, it flies.

Josh: Oh, you're right. Oh, we've had our first tooth chipped. Have you chipped your tooth?

Tommy: No, I'm good.

Josh: Oh, I think you've chipped your tooth. No, you're fine, I'm just fucking with you. He's just hit his mouth on the microphone if you're not looking at the visual. Yeah, interesting.

Tommy: So he was trying to flog off— the worst thing was it was a GoPro drone, which nobody wants.

Josh: Well, yeah, because they were notorious for having to do a big, um, recall because they're all falling out of the sky.

Tommy: You don't want a drone that falls out of the sky, but he, he must have nicked it and he's selling it. I, I couldn't see him as a drone enthusiast.

Josh: Or why would you be selling it to a random person on the street?

Tommy: Yeah, I should get the update from my brother. I remember he came home, he used to work on Victoria Street here, um, a place called Orient Express. No longer there.

Josh: Orient Express, that rings a bell. Is that a train?

Tommy: Antique movie. The Orient— the Oriental Express is the train. The Orient Express was the Chinese, uh, antique furniture restoration place where he worked.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: But I remember he came home, I think Mum was a bit cut. He bought some— he'd bought some speakers.

Josh: I love the idea of your mum being cut.

Tommy: Yeah, you know, what's wrong, Mum? Fucking cut. I'm cut.

Josh: Why are you cut? Why was she cut?

Tommy: She's cut because he bought some speakers off the back of a truck. Yeah, it was a very— I think Mr. 97, you wouldn't know what that reference to— I bought off the back of a truck because it was a big thing.

Josh: Was it not back of the truck? Was it—

Tommy: no, it was back of the truck, but I'm saying nowadays it doesn't really happen, back of the truck stuff.

Josh: It's now Facebook Marketplace.

Tommy: It's Facebook Marketplace, but people used to steal shit, or they'd have a bargain, um, and they'd sell it off the back of the truck. And so he bought these speakers off the back of the truck. And he brought them home.

Josh: It's probably not ideal, is it? You kind of know.

Tommy: Uh, maybe he does. They were the big tall ones, you know, the big—

Josh: I can imagine exactly what they're like.

Tommy: Yeah, it's not good.

Josh: You should never support, uh, crime as a general rule.

Tommy: Yeah, I know. And because, you know, off the back of the truck, even if they're like, nah, this is all legit, you know, you don't want to buy shit that's stolen.

Josh: Yeah, I've become a bit of a man of the street.

Tommy: Uh, you were wearing your beanie this morning.

Josh: Yes, and I've been wearing it every Every day, if you missed the episode, Mr. 97 said it was the equivalent of having a neck tattoo in regards to street credibility.

Tommy: And no one— you say it like you think it's a great sort of analogy that Mr. 97's come up with because it's horrible.

Josh: Why?

Tommy: Because it has no— so you're trying to say that the neck tattoo is like fronting? Like neck tattoo, you're saying you're the bitch that got the neck tattoo that wasn't hardcore? But you might just second-guess that he could be hard because he's got a neck tattoo. Is that what you were saying, Mr. 97?

Josh: I never use the word bitch.

Tommy: No, I know, I'm saying Mr.

Mason: 97, but like, that's quite—

Josh: that's quite full-on.

Tommy: Well, you see a guy that's got some sparrow on his neck, you either think he's a hard cunt or he— or he's a, you know, beg your pardon, just a bit hard cunt or a bitch.

Josh: Okay, which one?

Tommy: Is that what you were meaning though?

Mason: No, I think— yeah, I think it— I think it's sort of, uh, rough as Josh roughs Josh up a little, which I like. Yeah.

Josh: And so anyway, I was walking home last night and I had my beanie on and I had a lady say, have you got a phone I can use?

Tommy: Oh no, the old phone.

Josh: And so what do you do?

Tommy: Absolutely not. That's what you should say.

Josh: So she was, she was in her, should be early 50s, I reckon mid-50s. She had sort of an empty coffee cup sort of, yeah, and she had a piece of paper. What would you do?

Tommy: What have I done? Because I've been on a bus coming up Port Road.

Josh: What would you do?

Tommy: To not take away from your story, I definitely wouldn't give her the phone.

Josh: Okay, why would that take away from my story?

Tommy: Oh, because I hope that you gave her the phone because that would be a great place to go.

Josh: So I sort of did. So, what I did was I said, "Yes." And then I said, "What's the number?" She gave me the number, and then I put it on speaker, and I held the phone up to her so she could speak. And she had her one hand, it was this little grip sort of thing happening. And she had the call. It was like, "Hi, Dale. Yeah, I'm at 85 blah blah street." He's like, oh, we're just going near the milk bar. She's like, where's the milk bar? I'm like, oh, do you mean— no, I jump in. I'm like, do you mean the Food Works? He's like, no, not the food, the milk bar. I'm like, oh, I'm like, is it near Vinnie's? Like, and she's like, look, I'm just gonna stay at 85 blah blah street. And then, um, and I said— then the call ended. She didn't really say thank you, which is fine. I guess it's not a good vibe when someone's doing the speak— like, it seemed like I was Reluctant.

Tommy: You're middlemanning a drug deal.

Josh: Yeah, but the worst part about it was I'm— 5 minutes later I'm walking along, ring, ring, ring, ring.

Tommy: Oh no, you didn't put your number on private.

Josh: No, well, that would take so long to put the number on private. And so then I was like, oh fuck, like maybe I was part of some big scam where all they wanted to know was my name. Yeah. Because I narced about the fucking, the ram raid and then also the stabbing. There's a lot of people after me. And so like, they're trying to— they're like, the guy with the beanie, we need to get his name, his number, all that sort of thing. And so the first time I was like, fuck, I don't want it to go to voicemail so they hear my voice and know, like, hey, it's Josh Janson here, leave a message after the tone, or you can come to my address. Yeah, yeah, you know, I didn't want any of that.

Tommy: So you just broke your PO box in there?

Josh: But so I ended up, um, the first time I answered and hung up. I did it. Yeah, yeah. And then it called again. I was like, I'm just gonna answer it. So I said, uh, I said, hi, your, your friend was using, just using my phone, but I'm not with her now. It's like, oh, I'm at 85 blah blah, I can't see her. I said, oh, she's somewhere between Foodworks and Vinnie's. And then anyway, he's like, oh, okay. He's like looking at my— so she's on the main street, um, and he's like, oh, I can see, I can see. I'm like, okay, good, catch her, bye. And that was the end.

Tommy: You were— this is the closest you've ever become to being a drug dealer.

Josh: It had—

Tommy: it did have—

Josh: I was— the guy seemed nice, she sort of seemed nice.

Tommy: He's a businessman.

Josh: Yeah, a part of me like, should we call? Could you imagine if we called him?

Tommy: So I was on the bus, I was on the bus at like 7 AM, so there's not many—

Josh: it's like, when have you been on a bus?

Tommy: Yeah, I know, it's coming up Punt Road.

Josh: When?

Tommy: Uh, this was a year and a half ago. So I was coming up Punt Road on this bus and this guy sat down who, yeah, he looked like a bad sort.

Josh: Just very quickly, 3D Dills back crack coming soon.

Tommy: Yeah, it would be the finale. Can you hold off, mate? Can you hold up?

George: Yeah, I'll be okay.

Josh: Okay, good.

Tommy: He's holding off.

Josh: Yeah, go on. So you're in the bus.

Tommy: I'm on the bus and this guy starts kind of talking to me. He's like, we started talking about, he's like, you do drugs? He's literally just got into me about, you do drugs? He's like, what do you say? I was like, every now and then. I was like, I don't know what I say.

Josh: Uh, Demerzon?

Tommy: Yeah, Panadol, bro.

Josh: Yeah, Demerzon. That's funny, uh, Freddie Dool. That's a prescription. Actually, it's prescription.

Tommy: Not a prescription.

Josh: You have to get it over the counter though because of the, uh, codeine in it.

George: Yeah, maybe.

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: It's got nerve stuff.

Tommy: I don't fucking do drugs, but I was like, I do drugs. But he— and then he just started telling me about some cocaine that he could get. I was like, just like, you know, like you— I didn't want to enter into the conversation. But then he's like, oh mate, would I be able to use your phone? I've got to call my mom, I can't get through to her.

Josh: And so absolutely not.

Tommy: No, well, the mum thing is hard, and I'm right there. And if I say no, like you said, like, what are you like, how good is the coke? He said it was blue, which gave it away that it's probably very shit.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: He's like, oh mate, it's called Smith. I don't know, it was just so bizarre, this whole conversation. It was weird. I don't know if he didn't even ask me if I wanted any.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Which was weird.

Josh: Anyway, did you give him the phone or no?

Tommy: I gave him the phone, but I— but here's what I did. I fucking spit. I was like, mate, hold on a second. And I'm just paranoid. I couldn't find how to turn my phone on to private.

Josh: You reset your whole phone, deleted all your photos, all apps?

Tommy: No, I— so I ended up getting I had to Google it to find it because I've done it before, but I always leave my phone on.

Josh: Oh, do you reckon— did you think it could have been a sting? He's like, ah mate, you want drugs or whatever? It's like, oh yeah, I occasionally do drugs. Like, ah mate, can I borrow your phone?

Tommy: Nah, he was a real junkie. He was one of them.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Or he was an undercover that had gone deep into the testing of the drugs.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, so I found— I got it and I did the same. I, um, put onto loudspeaker. Yeah, I just did that.

Josh: It was a good— it's a good way of doing it.

Tommy: It is good.

Josh: Do you know what I was thinking? I was like, how could I— you know when you have these things that only happen like once every 5 years?

Tommy: But depends on where you live though. A lot of things are happening right here.

Josh: But now I'm sort of like, oh, what will I do next time? And a part of me was thinking about like, oh, maybe I have like an old Nokia phone with me so people could use.

Tommy: And then you'll really— you'll end up—

Josh: I've got another plan.

Tommy: I've got 2 phones on me. I may as well start drug dealing.

George: Yeah, exactly.

Josh: I start saying, excuse me, Do you need a phone?

George: I start—

Josh: I'm leading with it at that point.

Tommy: You remember what happened in the— Punt Road is where it all happens. Remember when I was driving home on Punt Road? I had my Civic.

Josh: Oh, that's right.

Tommy: And I pulled up at the lights. All of a sudden, a woman's in my car.

Josh: Oh no, I don't remember that story. I remember a guy that was nodding off.

Tommy: No, no, I yelled at him because he was driving under the influence of something. But I was— I came under the bridge, the train bridge at Richmond, and I'm sitting at the lights And the annoying thing was like my car now locks its doors when it starts driving.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So this wouldn't have happened. She would have had to knock on the window and get me to turn the window down. Anyway, she got straight in and said, can you please give me a lift to St Kilda? And I was like, I live in St Kilda, I'm going to St Kilda.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And I was like, yeah, okay, fucking, I was, I'm so annoyed I said yes. She was so crazy. Yeah, so crazy.

Josh: I could have guessed.

Tommy: She was severely ill, like mentally, like talking to herself, like had been on drugs, had been up for days.

Josh: Were you asking her about all this stuff?

Tommy: Yeah, I ended up recording some of the conversation.

Josh: Classic.

Tommy: And, um, she was— it was so— it was the fucked up thing. Yeah, it's just sad. She's talking about a mate she couldn't get in touch with and worried that he's killed himself and shit like that. And I just got out, I was like I think I survived that.

Josh: So she just got out. Where'd you drop her in St Kilda?

Tommy: Uh, the top of Alma Road, Barkley Street, just not far from my base. I have seen her since, hanging out with some seriously ill people, like seriously bad.

Josh: And she's not a nurse, so it doesn't make sense.

Tommy: She's not there to help.

Josh: Uh, 3D Dill, can we get your, uh, your back crack?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, if you don't like—

George: How do you want to do it?

Tommy: Can I just, can I just bring up some of the workplace stuff here. Like, your, your neck cracking, Josh, is atrocious. Like, it's next level. Like, you almost look like you're doing— you're in mid-exorcism.

Josh: Well, just because I'm like—

Tommy: like, you guys— oh geez.

Mason: Oh, I don't know if that's good.

Tommy: Can you just look up some facts around— like, just write myths of—

Josh: myths or facts? Which one do you want?

Tommy: I need some facts.

Mason: I just— this isn't more neck cracking.

Tommy: Well, because one part of me goes cracking's bad, and then I go, I've heard things, I've heard things around it, it's a myth, it's all just like— yeah, people like, no, you'll get arthritis, and other people like, it's just air leaving your joints, it's fine. Can you just look it up, Mr. Nice Guy?

Mason: Medical research has not demonstrated such a connection. The cracking mechanism and resulting sound is caused by the carbon dioxide cavitation bubbles suddenly, uh, collapsing inside the joints.

Tommy: So you are just getting rid of a bit of air.

Josh: Okay, so quiet on set and we'll just get— so 3D deal, how are you gonna do it?

George: I'm gonna put the microphone down so it's level with the middle of my back and—

Josh: okay, great.

Tommy: And try and just be careful it doesn't fall over. Yeah, yeah, it might have to bounce around. It's, it's all happening.

Josh: Okay, here we go. Ready?

George: I mean, is my mic loud enough?

Josh: Uh, I can turn it up.

Tommy: He's requested a mic volume increase.

Josh: This is the only time this will ever happen, Dil.

George: I'm gonna take the headphones off so that I have proper range of motion. Range of motion.

Tommy: Okay, great instruction.

Josh: Okay, now I'm turning it a little bit weird. His mic's up. Ready? Go for it.

Tommy: Oh, he's basically being a chiropractor to himself here. Oh, where is that even cracking? What part of your body?

George: Middle of the back.

Tommy: Interesting. I, I can't— I I was just thinking if I say this or not. I found this weird place that I can crack, and it's— to get to it, to get to it, I have to do something a bit unusual. And it's like, so like, you know how you've got your coccyx bone? So basically think about where the, the— so yeah, bottom of your spine meets your asshole.

Josh: It's your gooch.

Tommy: It's not even— no, because your gooch is underneath.

Josh: Internal gooch.

Tommy: So So I can like, it's not putting my fingers in. I can like, I'm just going to show you.

Josh: Are you going to show me your taint?

Tommy: But I can put my fingers at sort of like the bottom of my coccyx bone.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: So my tailbone.

Josh: And you can click it.

Tommy: And I have to just sort of do this. I put it in and up.

Josh: So to be able to feel the click, would I, would we need to use my hand?

Tommy: You could hear it. You could hear it.

Josh: Yeah. I'm just closing my eyes and giving you my hand.

Tommy: Do you want me to do it?

Josh: Yeah. Do you want me to see if I can get it?

George: Okay.

Josh: But for a guy who was like, yeah, I don't know about this bit. Yeah, he's so into it. He's keen. Do you want me to turn your mic up as well? Okay. So he's got his hands in the back behind his pants. This is definitely one for youtube.com/thedailytalkshow. Oh yeah, I heard it. Yeah, it sounded like a little pop. Did you just fart into the mic?

Tommy: I did not. I cracked.

Josh: Okay, that's good. All right, uh, we've all got our own weird cracking thing, don't we?

Tommy: Yeah, see, I do that at home. I don't do that in the office.

Josh: Well, I just—

Tommy: I mean, I did a lot of—

Josh: I get a lot of, uh, neck tension.

Tommy: What do you do? What do you do, Mr. 97?

Josh: Cracking.

Tommy: What's your dirty little cracking habit?

Mason: It's the sort of like front of your chest. Could you do like solar plexuses?

Josh: Can you do the solar plexuses for us?

Mason: Nah, it's— I think I've already done it today.

Tommy: I've worked out another one. I can push in my— hang on. I did it. It was— I could feel it. You didn't hear it though.

Josh: No, I didn't hear it at all. Uh, thank you to everyone who's been giving us reviews.

Tommy: Yeah, um, do you know, please keep them still coming even though we just did that whole thing.

Josh: Yeah, uh, Apple Podcasts is where you can leave reviews. 5 stars, please. 5 stars. I sound like an Uber driver.

Tommy: Yeah, um, it's all Jules' line because every time he gets out of it, he's like an old man. It's a dad joke. He gets out, he says, 5 stars, 5 stars. Every time we're in an Uber, 5 stars, 5 stars.

Josh: It's very funny. Uh, so we actually got 2 comments.

Tommy: You call them comments, other people call them reviews.

Josh: Reviews, reviews. Let's get the terminology right.

Tommy: But maybe we could treat them as like you can start commenting to us.

Josh: The only way that we take feedback going forward is through the reviews.

Mason: Yeah, no more emails, just purely Apple Podcasts.

Tommy: Yeah, if you want to talk to us, come through reviews. We'll get more of them. Yeah, probably cap out at 1 per person, right?

Josh: I think that this might be a Friends. I think this might be, so I'll read them too.

Tommy: Yeah, read them.

Josh: Because there's similarities. They're 15, they're both 15 hours ago.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: Molly Atkinson.

Tommy: Oh yeah, Molly follows us on Insta.

Josh: Yeah, I think that her partner might be Josh, Joshua, or brother, or—

Tommy: Does Molly live over in NZ?

Josh: No, that's Molly Floyd.

Mason: Yeah, I think so. I'm not sure, to be honest.

Josh: It's definitely Molly Floyd in New Zealand. She actually— I, uh, I think she was saying that I would— that we were too tough on Mr. Nice Guy. And then I went through a rabbit hole and she's got these awesome videos. She did this awesome video of like a rowing crew. It looks very good.

Tommy: She's a great photographer.

Josh: Yeah, the cinematography was really good. Color grade's awesome. Uh, anyway, review time.

Tommy: Different Molly.

Josh: Yeah, different Molly. Molly Atkinson, who's also on Instagram though, tops. And then the review is, thoroughly enjoy listening to this bunch of gronks, hashtag fuck your Tommy.

Tommy: It's taking off.

Josh: And then can you wear a t-shirt that says fuck your Tommy? Absolutely. And then FUTJ should be like the— sure, yeah, FUD. Then we had one for— from Fatkinson93.

Tommy: Fatkinson.

Josh: Which sounds very similar to Atkinson. So, I have a feeling this could be Joshua Atkinson. Please confirm. Uh, Best Review You'll See is the title.

Tommy: I like that.

Josh: And it's very short. It's just hashtag fuck your tummy. Oh no. So, it's taking off now, the fuck your tummy in the reviews.

Tommy: And didn't we work out that the person that said Tommy Carl was young. He's a young dude. Yeah, Carl, can you confirm that? How old are you, buddy? Because, uh, you've, you've maybe you've started something if you're 10 years old. This is a—

Josh: if it's fucking Carl and Little Kickers, what are Bodhi's mates? Fuck you, Tommy. Fuck you, Carl. Uh, yeah, uh, maybe any other, any other—

Tommy: I just think about people who come to that, like the roof. I mean, we encourage people who listen to the show to go there. I mean, the review section for anything, restaurants and shit, is for people who've never consumed the thing and are going there. So they're looking through, just like, is this it? I mean, it's slightly aggressive. Fuck you, Tommy. But he's given a 5-star review. What is this?

Josh: That makes sense. Um, Deliveroo, we spoke about it the other day.

Tommy: Uh, yeah, you speak about it, it's like you've got some fucking— you, you found some loophole. I've got the delivery subscription, guys. Should we get Deliveroo?

Josh: Yeah, so I got the subscription, uh, but it was The idea was that I was going to use a subscription and during the free period and then cancel, which I canceled. But for whatever reason, they charged me the first month. They did the same thing with Bree. And so then yesterday I was like, I just need to use this as much as possible now. So for lunch I had Deliveroo and then for dinner I had Deliveroo. And then the thing with the dinner Deliveroo, yeah, this is very upsetting. I ordered a Coke, no sugar. They gave me fat Coke.

Tommy: Did they? Last night?

Josh: What did you do with it?

Tommy: Because that's the essence.

Josh: Well, so I got a photo.

Tommy: No, I know, but I'm saying, did you drink the Coke?

Josh: We'll get to that. But I got a photo. Oh, maybe it doesn't— I got the photo within the app because you were complaining, sending it through. Because I complained. What would you— what do you think I should get from a refund?

Tommy: Because the thing is, dude, like, how much time did you spend yesterday on customer service for mobile phones, uh, Deliveroo. Like, you think about your hourly rate, that's costing you a lot of money. There is a little bit of a lot of money, but I know you want your— you want at least a voucher.

Josh: Yeah, so I got $4 back, um, as a refund. But the, the thing that, um, yeah, the big question is, did I drink the Coca-Cola? And the answer is I haven't had Fat Coke in 10 years, maybe.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: Yeah, it's been a long time. Like, I prefer sort of your, uh, I know they're still terrible for you, but your diet—

Tommy: you prefer the taste of it?

Josh: Well, I just feel like I don't, like, I don't have to think about it from like a calorie. Yeah, I know where it's like when I— if you're having a fat Coke, you have to think, well, that's like the equivalent of a Caramello Koala. I'd much prefer a Caramello Koala. Yeah, so now I have a Coke Zero.

Tommy: So how many, how many liquid caramel koalas did you consume last night?

Josh: Well, I, I did end up— so I put it away, I put it in the kitchen, I just left it there. I'm like, well, what are we going to do with this? And I started eating my burger. I'm like, fuck, I'm thirsty. Really? I was like, oh, maybe, um, if I don't have dessert, I can just have that. And so I did, I had it. And also my other favourite thing is I was like, yeah, it's also going to shock my system, which—

Tommy: oh, you've used that that fucking line a few times. Shocking your system usually comes when you, when you do something you never do.

Josh: Yeah, I haven't had—

Tommy: no, no, never doing— if you just remove what the, what the thing is, it's like just sugar. You have sugar quite often, maybe on a weekend.

Josh: Guess how many in a 300-something mil bottle?

Tommy: How many?

Josh: 360 mil bottle. How, how many grammes of sugar do you think?

Tommy: Oh, that's at least 25 plus, 30 grams.

Josh: I couldn't believe it. It's like, uh, like a block of chocolate's that. It's ridiculous. Anyway, so I had it. It was— I was really— I was like, you know what, if I'm gonna have it though, I've got to savour this thing, which I don't do.

Tommy: Savour is in, you know, if I drink it across a long period of time.

Josh: Yeah, well, my, my mum would always be like, savour it, because I would just like— I just put the whole Tim Tam in my mouth or something.

Tommy: Yeah, savour because you want more and then you'll come back and eat the others. Maybe the savour—

Josh: savour it as, as in if you're gonna have something naughty just eat it slowly and enjoy it. Yeah. And so anyway, I did. I savoured it and just had a little— I was trying to— it's really like, hmm, try and taste the difference. I'm like, I couldn't really taste it. So anyway, uh, other comment, uh, Lamington's. The Lamington stuff is being big.

Tommy: Yeah, well, you were quite, um, go on, insistent that, uh, Lamington's had cream in the middle, and I The one saying either I was ripped off or that is not the case for traditional Lamingtons, which are an Australian delicacy.

Josh: Big fun.

Tommy: They're not an Australian delicacy.

Josh: That was how you said delicacy in '97.

Tommy: Um, so the fucking toffee prick over here— toffee prick, I don't get it, Mr. 97.

Josh: Why is he toffee?

Tommy: You know, the toffee prick.

Josh: No, do you get it, 97?

Tommy: Toffee. Look up toffee. When you call someone toffee, it's not like— I don't think it's the spelling of the toffee that you like.

Josh: Can you just tell us what it means?

Tommy: What's like, um, toffee?

Josh: Like, a bit arrogant?

Tommy: No, like you would, uh, toffee, using it to explain someone who is like maybe rich and sort of thinking they're superior. They're from yuppy.

Josh: Yeah, a bit of a yuppy, bit of a toffee prick. Uh, anyway, um, So a few things, uh, we got an email from, uh, Wayne. This was from, uh, the, the 10th of May. When was that? That was Friday, maybe? Yes. Anyway, he sent this after Fat Friday, 11:41 PM. Thanks for the late, uh, email, Wayne. Hi guys, Naomi wanted, uh, his wife Naomi wanted me to let you know, re-Vegemite on ulcers, it's high in vitamin B. Sorry, in, in B group vitamins. Yeah, what the fuck's the difference between vitamin B and B group vitamins?

Tommy: Vitamin B is a B group vitamin which helps healing, used in, uh, Bepanthen. Oh, Bepanthen, which is something that you actually can buy for your ulcers.

Josh: Uh, salt will help kill most bacteria, also good for hangovers. Also from Naomi, mint is good for calming the stomach, hence the after-dinner mints. From Wayne, he says definitely no to butter with Vegemite on toast, although—

Tommy: Wayne, you're a monster.

Josh: Naomi disagrees. Naomi's good. Naomi, uh, I agree with Wayne. My favourite primary school lunch was always sausage roll, choccy Big M, and choccy donut. Like, Wayne, you loose unit, living the dream.

Tommy: You really are family.

Josh: Yeah, he said And lamingtons do not have jam or cream. Cheers, Wayne.

Tommy: Jam or cream? He's thrown another spanner in the works.

Josh: So we had Scooter Derek contact us, very upset.

Tommy: What was he upset about?

Josh: With lamingtons. And so what he was saying was lamingtons actually came from brownies. Brownies as in young cubs, cubs that are chicks. Okay. Brownies was the term of like, if you know how you would do Cubs as a kid.

Tommy: Yeah, Cubs. I didn't think Cubs was exclusive to men though. It wasn't. That's what you're saying. Cubs is the brownie. Cubs. I'd love to be able to find it. I did Cubs. I did Cubs. I did Sea Scouts. I remember girls.

Josh: Can you look up Brownies? Maybe it wasn't.

Tommy: Maybe it was just boys.

Josh: Girl Scouts. So he said the Brownies, which are the Girl Scouts, they would go around to houses and sell like boxes of 10 Lamingtons. And he said they had, they did have no cream.

Tommy: And no jam? Because now we've got the no jam thing.

Josh: I think he said that there was jam.

Tommy: Okay, because I remember making them with no jam based on the fact that it was just too hard and I wanted to put them in chocolate and roll them around in coconut and eat them ASAP. We couldn't, you know, putting jam in the middle is a hard feat. For a young small human.

Josh: Well, you cut them in half.

Tommy: Yeah, you know, anyway, did you find out about the brownie thing?

Mason: Yeah, no, you're right, it's just the, uh, the group for girls. Scouts for girls.

Tommy: Yeah, brownies. Interesting. I'm sure that's gone now. I'm sure it's just all-inclusive.

Josh: Threaded young. Yeah. Uh, are you a scout?

George: I, I was when I was like 10 or 11.

Josh: What does it mean when you say was? What does that mean?

George: You can continue. So you go from Beavers to Cubs to Scouts to— there's other higher levels.

Tommy: And at each one, the Army, it's—

George: yeah, I mean, each one is like 2 or 3 years, and you can continue doing it or you can just stop. I just stopped.

Josh: And you were a leader, weren't you?

George: Yeah, I went back and did volunteer work as a leader because we had to do like community service hours for high school. Yeah, so I did my community service hours with the Cub Scouts.

Tommy: I went on a school— uh, not a school camp, a Scout camp. I remember I got, I think I would tell myself that I got bitten by a leech, but I had seen that movie. Not, not that, um, what's it called? You know that one where they go in the water? Fat Camp? Joaquin Phoenix? Stand By Me. And he gets a, he gets a leech on his penis.

Josh: What's the one where the kid dies from bee stings? That scared the fuck out of me.

Tommy: Honey, they have— nope, I don't know, mate.

Josh: It had Macaulay Culkin in it.

Tommy: Jeez, that sounds fun. Anyway, did you say—

Josh: what did you say that movie was called that you were just describing?

Tommy: Stand By Me.

Josh: I feel like it was Stand By Me that had the Do they have Macaulay Culkin in it?

Tommy: No, definitely not. Joaquin Phoenix.

George: River Phoenix.

Tommy: River Phoenix, yeah, he's dead. His brother's— yeah, Joaquin's his brother. Yeah.

Mason: Is it My Girl, Josh?

Josh: My Girl, thank you.

Tommy: Sounds about right for a film that Josh was into back then.

Josh: And so he did full-on, um, yeah, he died from bee stings and they had an open casket at the funeral. Geez, full-on. Anyway, we'll watch that scene after this. It's The Daily Talk Show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Is the email address. And please leave us a review on the Apple Podcast app. And we'll see you tomorrow with Andrea Clarke, also known as Career CEO. She's got a new book out called Future Fit, which I'm currently reading, and I'm not very good at reading books, so says something. See you guys. Bye.