Funny Boy In Bali

Josh: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 338.

Tommy: The shop's open. What's happening, guys?

Josh: We're open for business.

Tommy: We are.

Josh: Yeehaw!

Tommy: We definitely are.

Josh: Sorry about that.

Tommy: What happened?

Josh: What came over you? I'm bringing an energy based on feeling a little bit sick.

Tommy: Oh, that's it. Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

Josh: Yeehaw!

Tommy: What? That was a mix between a gorilla and a cowboy.

Josh: Well, it's a good way, like, just, um, just being energetic.

Tommy: I tell you, there's one thing that ups your energy. It's positive feedback.

Josh: No, cleaning my glasses, to be honest. Does it? Yeah.

Tommy: You've got water on them.

Josh: I know.

Tommy: It's interesting. It's like a camera lens when there's a bit of fluff on it, but you're rocking that, you know, f-stop of 1.4. You can't see it right now. I sometimes notice quite a bit of like dust. I don't know what it's like for people that have—

Josh: A bit of dandruff, a little bit of dry skin.

Tommy: I mean, I said dust. You said dandruff.

Josh: I think it's dandruff.

Tommy: Most likely dandruff.

Josh: Guys.

Tommy: That was a promise that was made, and it shouldn't even make its way into the promises that we make on this show that we need to fulfil because it's so low level.

Josh: Well, I'd like to criticise Mr. 97 again. Oh, just based on the, uh, just calling the episode 2 big announcements.

Tommy: I love it.

Josh: Because no, but then we, um, it's clickbait. We only got all of our videos on YouTube, you get like, um, 6, 5 or 6 likes. Yeah, that had 1 like and 1 dislike. Ah, so that's kind of like, you should have led with maybe like Cereals.

Tommy: Nah, I liked it. Well done.

Josh: Going Fruit Loopy.

Tommy: I just, I'll quickly mention a few nice reviews that have come in on Apple Podcasts review section. So this, this is a nice one from Jonesy. Top quality squeegee-based banter.

Josh: Thanks, Jonesy.

Tommy: Two and a half gronks discuss all things life, business, and squeegees. I really like that. This one is, uh, this one's awesome. This is from Ella. 5-star review, guys.

Josh: Thank you, Alan.

Tommy: This is lifting your energy.

Josh: Yeah, this is good.

Tommy: Uh, not just because you told me to.

Josh: That's the headlines.

Tommy: Yeah, the headline, because we did ask. Go and leave a review. Uh, I only started listening a couple of months ago, but I love it. I hang out every day waiting for the new episode to drop, and it's one of the only stable things in my daily routine. Concerning— I honestly don't even know how to describe it, but I can't stop talking about it. Every single conversation is interesting, and I love hearing about their careers and the 'In the Media Industry, I'm Not In It, Just a Sticky Beak.' Seriously worth giving a listen. You'll definitely be hooked like me in no time.

Josh: Thank you, Ella.

Tommy: I spoke to my mum today and she said, 'I really liked that episode with Craig Bruce.' Then she said, 'He's a lot older than I thought he would be.' And I guess—

Josh: based on— did she watch the video?

Tommy: No, she just listened to it and then obviously saw a snippet come up. He's got a great voice, Brucey. Really nice. But Mum said, I really like learning about that industry. Mum's got no— you know, she's never been in radio, but she likes hearing about the world. And we've all got so many— there's so many little worlds happening within this one world, and radio is definitely that. It's a big bubble. And Craig was the fucking— he was driving that ship for a long time. Um, I also, uh, got an update from Mum.

Josh: On what?

Tommy: She's on a high.

Mason: Really?

Tommy: She's cashing in. She's making bank.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: She's, uh, she's quite big online if you guys didn't know. My mum's, um, on the meditation website Insight Timer.

Josh: I was gonna say people stream her, that's all we'll say. There's a clusterfuck.

Tommy: No, but mum's got a, um—

Josh: Tommy's mum is not a cam girl if that's what you were— She's not.

Tommy: She's a meditation teacher and she's been uploading—

Josh: Whatever you want to call it. I mean, everyone's relaxed by the end of it. So no, no, the fact that they go for 27 minutes.

Tommy: Well, she's got some that go for 27 minutes, so she uploads these. She records them on a, on a Rode mic that we got her, and then I do a little bit of jazzing up at the end to just export.

Josh: What do you mean jazzing up?

Tommy: She's— mate, it is, it's a hard battle recording anything into a PC computer, especially an old one. They're rocking PC back at their joint.

Josh: What are you— what do you actually do though?

Tommy: Oh, I downloaded, um, or not Audition, um, Audacity, which It's a free version. I couldn't get the latest version because it is free, it's open source. Yeah, but I couldn't even download the latest version based on their computer and Windows XP. I've got no idea. I used to be good at Windows, but I've got no idea. But anyway, I sort of just give it a voice enhance and all that kind of jazz. Anyway, she then uploads them to Insight Timer, and she's, she's been on there for a while. She's got her own profile, insighttimer.com/joannejackett. Have a look. She's got a shitload of subscribers. I only just realized, I'm just pulling this up right now. But what she's excited about is that she's been, she's been getting kickbacks, cash. She's getting money.

Josh: Checks?

Tommy: I don't know. I think it's direct deposits.

Josh: I used to get cheques from Amazon. Yeah, that was the best. It was sort of like getting your pay. You'd get like—

Tommy: She's got 186,700 downloads across her sort of like 3, 6, 9 episodes, but she's been making money for it. She's so fucking ecstatic. Like, she is someone who gives it a hard, solid crack when it comes to online stuff. And, you know, tweeting— not tweeting out, but Instagramming, Facebooking. She's worked out how to monetize it. The amount of people that are still wanting to make— she's been getting monthly payments. I think one of them was like $140, one of them was $30 or something like that. So it's not huge money, but out of all the people that are out there trying to monetized, they're online. She's done it.

Josh: Yeah, that's so good.

Tommy: She's done it. So that's, um, she's riding a high.

Josh: Does she have— does she get fan, like, messages?

Tommy: So they've all got, um, what's interesting about this website, and this is insane, I say, but this company does a great thing. They're paying creators, they're paying, um, you know, it's an amazing platform.

Josh: Where are they getting the money from?

Tommy: Uh, I think people sign up. Mum got a donation, so you, so you can donate to a creator. All right, she got a $1.20 donation. She was like pumped.

Josh: Um, that's so good.

Tommy: But a lot of people leave reviews and stuff, so there's some really nice reviews.

Josh: I'm not actually sure what are people saying about Joanne.

Tommy: You go on to this.

Josh: Oh, this is not a— it's too jazzy for you.

Tommy: It is real jazzy.

Josh: I don't know.

Tommy: Now you're about to play Mum's Meditation. Should we just hear a little bit of it? Oh, here we go. Hang on.

Josh: Meditation that will prepare you for a lovely Restful sleep. It sounds shit through the microphone, but it sounds very relaxing.

Tommy: Yeah, so she does have a very sort of calming nature. Yeah, it's— I think for me, I'm surprised Amy can listen to our podcast. I'm surprised Bree can listen to our podcast. I have just become— I cannot listen anymore.

Josh: Absolutely.

Tommy: I think we're doing too many of them. But so what I'm saying is, I think I'd struggle listening to mum as the meditation teacher.

Josh: Absolutely.

Tommy: It's got nothing to do with our relationship. It's that it's my thing.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But yeah, I've enjoyed her yoga classes when I've gone, but it's still that thing. I think I would just one step removed. I said to my mate yesterday who I caught up with, he's, he's just finished up working somewhere and he's talking about new opportunities. And he was saying, I don't think I could, I can't, it's too close to home to work with my wife. And working with a partner is— it's hard. It's hard enough working with you.

Josh: Well, it's good having— what's that got to do with it?

Tommy: I don't know, I was just thinking, fuck, do you—

Josh: did you see any sort of—

Tommy: well, nothing to do with that.

Josh: Well, so, um, that Bree and I spoke about working together. We nearly— we got very close to doing it, but, um, I think for— it's for the best having that separation sometimes.

Tommy: If you can make it work though, I think it— yeah, you'd think it's like— I think you'd have— for me I would need the roles to be so separate. And I think for you too, like, you're very strong-headed in certain areas, so you'd need just— I mean, it's like most, most good partnerships, you need sort of yin and yang.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Are we yin and yang? Who's black, who's white? Which part are you of the yin and yang? I don't know which one's which. Which one is—

Josh: I feel like yin sounds white. Well, yin sounds more sort of calm. Yang, just the way it sounds, sounds like a yang. Oh yeah, maybe. I don't know, I think we switch. Sometimes I'm yin, sometimes I'm yang.

Tommy: Sometimes you're a bad guy, sometimes you're a good guy.

Josh: Yeah, I don't know. But what have you learned about collaboration since we've started?

Tommy: Yeah, it's, um, it's such a— it's been such a buzzword, you know, like you see people like, oh, let's collab online, hit me up in the DMs if you want to collab. It's like, I don't think most of these people realise how you have to work with people when you collab. Yeah, so annoying, because I think you immediately, you think collaboration, I get something out of it, I can sort of more power, more people.

Josh: So if it's coming from, for most people, do you think, and even for yourself at the beginning, like from an individualistic, yeah, sort of goal, which is that this is going to further me?

Tommy: I think most people are thinking that way. Great to work with somebody, I love what they do, but you A lot of people are strategic in collaborations. If you've seen someone like hit me up to collaborate, it's mainly because it's like, I'll probably— it'll probably help me grow further, or they really just want to meet people. But I think if you go into it naively just thinking that you, you, yeah, you're just going to get to work with somebody, you then work out that working with somebody, everyone has their own sort of principles or their own sort of thought patterns, beliefs, and yours are coming— you could come to a loggerhead in most of it. So there's— that's what we've spoken about, is like collaboration is actually someone leading the charge and you helping them with it. A lot of the time that is a really seamless collaboration, or trying to have everyone on equal footing or whatever's hard.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, you need someone to lead the way. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: And Mr. 97, did you find the yin and yang?

Mason: Yeah, well, the— oh, hang on.

Josh: Oh, he was actually—

Tommy: all you have to do is look at the, you know, tattoo on your lower back of the yin yang.

Mason: No, okay, so the yin is the white part, which is good, bright, and sunny aspects of life, and then the dark, uh, or the black is, um, all the evil, uh, and treacherous aspects of life.

Tommy: You get it, you got it right. Yang, yang sounds like a dirty little bastard, you know.

Josh: And so which one— I mean No, it's not good to be the yang. Yeah, 97's our yang.

Tommy: No, I think it's the metaphor. Like, it's for life.

Josh: It's like that.

Tommy: I think— I don't think— I— it's probably not the best way to look at it as yin and yang individually.

Mason: That's why they have the smaller dots within. Like, there's— you've got the smaller dot within each of them. Okay, so if you've got the, the small white circle in the dark, yes, then it's looking at the bright parts of the bad aspects of life.

Tommy: Yes.

Mason: Yeah, so that's where it sort of balances out.

Tommy: I like it, the, the glow. I'm going to get a tattoo on my lower back of that.

Josh: How many tattoos have you got? You've got one?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: How did that come about?

Tommy: I was 17, maybe younger, 16, and it was listening to a lot of Tupac.

Josh: To have something, I feel like it's got emotional meaning. Well, I just remember I was like, I think early on I heard someone laugh at your tattoo, and then you've got like a great comeback around like on that That's for my fucking—

Tommy: Oh no, no, I might have told you something to do with like, if—

Josh: because it's Matt Tilley.

Tommy: Was it the Matt Tilley thing?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, so I was, when I worked for KISS FM, I was in a room. Matt Tilley and, um, someone else was in there and they were talking and I was the only other person in the room and they started talking about tattoos and they're like, yeah, I'm clean-skinned. And then the other guy's like, yeah, I'm clean-skinned too. And then they just started like, they're like, Tommy, what are you? Because I could just feel the energy between them. I'm like, yeah, me too. And then they were like, yeah, I just kind of wasn't— didn't want to enter into it. But then they were just like, oh, how's the, you know, people getting tattoos these days, you know, like. And so you can't enter— I don't want to have to fucking be trying to defend anything at that point. So I've just gone along with it and got back onto my computer.

Josh: And so there's nothing like deep about it. I'm sure there's— because it's a good way of like being like, oh, this is a dead family member or something. Yeah, I think it represents—

Tommy: I think there's a lot of people that get tattoos with the meaning worked out, like what you're saying, it's like Papa or whatever. I don't know, it's like, what, Papa? Papa, my Papa died, or something, you know, like, uh, little Pluto, my dog, he's, he's passed away and now I've got his little face on my arm. Um, I know a girl whose dog died and got a big tattoo on her leg.

Josh: What sort of dog was it? Uh, it was like one of those Rottweilers, and she's got a Rottweiler on her leg.

Tommy: It's not— I wouldn't go there. I wouldn't—

Josh: oh, what does that mean?

Tommy: Wouldn't personally get a Rottweiler on my leg.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And so the, the, the other thought is that people who get tattoos want to get a tattoo for some reason, but then it sort of associates to a time in their life.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so, you know, my friend who passed away, he, he killed himself when we were fucking 18. We would like— we love tattoos, we loved him, he got fuckloads of them, he went overboard. Yeah, barbed wire on his forearms.

Josh: And so do you think that your You got the tattoo and then applied the meaning, is that what you're saying?

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's a cross. It's a cross. I don't go to church now.

Josh: Why did you get it? What was the—

Tommy: I really liked, I remember liking the look of the cross. See, this is the thing, it's like—

Josh: Where is it again? It's on my back. Can you show the camera? You don't have to get your full rig. Well, you didn't have to lean with your— you should go front on to start with if you want to show your rig. Sounds like that. Look how lean he is.

Tommy: Fucking white, is it?

Josh: It looks very white. Fuck, it's big. Turn around completely so we can see it. He's fucking flexing if I've ever seen it.

Tommy: I look fucking white as—

Josh: So it's green.

Tommy: Look, so very yin in this.

Josh: It's like the, um, the greeniness. Go to youtube.com/thedailytalkshow if you want to see that.

Tommy: Tattoos, they aren't black when you get them. They sound—

Josh: What about all the hipster, like the pens, like the ones, like the line art? Really?

Tommy: Yeah, they're just different needles.

Josh: But they're going black now. Like, can you get black ink or no? I think of blue when I think about black ink.

Tommy: It's something about the ink and inside the skin. Write this into Google. Why do tattoos go green? Because it was a lot darker when I first got it.

Josh: Have you had many people comment on it? Like, has it been a talking point or not really?

Tommy: No, not really.

Josh: I thought about getting the Apple logo under, just like, um, between my thumb and my finger. Yeah, sort of in the— what do you call that bit?

Tommy: The webbing.

Josh: The webbing.

Tommy: That would really, really hurt. That would severely hurt.

Josh: But the problem is we don't know where— like, is that a good— if I'm going to the Apple Genius Bar, is that a power move or the ultimate touch move?

Tommy: Imagine if you did that and then they were like— exactly, they just gave you this nod and then they just come this way.

Josh: Or just— I just seem like a massive fanboy. Yeah, I think it would have that vibe.

Tommy: What did you find out, Mason?

Mason: It says the older tattoos are made with India ink, which is not a true black but a dark, dark green.

Tommy: Okay, I don't think it— I mean, when was that? I don't think that's the case for my one. I think it's—

Mason: this article was 2011.

Tommy: Okay, no, I got it before then. Interesting. Maybe I'm rocking Indian ink. India ink?

Mason: India.

Tommy: India.

Josh: It's from India?

Mason: I don't think it is. I think it's just what they are.

Tommy: What's interesting is I got that when I wasn't 18.

Josh: And so did you have to get like a note or something?

Tommy: Nah, I think my parents actually drove me there.

Josh: Do you remember what's the discussion?

Tommy: I mean, it was just I wanted to get one. I probably—

Josh: Do you think you played it? Did you say, hey, my friend who's passed away?

Tommy: No, no, he was alive then.

Josh: He was like, okay, sure. Like, we were definitely after the fact applying that sort of—

Tommy: Yeah, I think, yeah. I mean, I've only got one. It's this kid I went to high school with. He, um, He was always one to sort of go through trends, you know, he would dress like a football player.

Josh: That's what I wonder about what emos are going to look like. Yeah, at the age of 70. Like the big, the big one, the popular thing at our school was the ear, um, ah, what's that called? Stretches.

Tommy: Yeah, they're like full circles, you could put a pencil through your ear. Yeah, yeah. And then when you see people who've stopped living that life, it just looks shrivelled up.

Josh: I just imagine, what does that look like? In a suit. What are you going to look like? And you're probably going to look like someone from Blink-182.

Tommy: Yeah, probably with half— actually, uh, one one-hundredth of the money that they made from their successful career. But this guy that I went to high school with, I saw him a few years later, like a few years ago. And when did—

Josh: what was the trend that you saw him last?

Tommy: Graffa.

Josh: What's graffa?

Tommy: Graffa, like, um, TN Nike shoes, puffer pants.

Josh: What was that first? TN.

Tommy: TN. Mr. 97 knows that. They've kind of come back in, they're kind of cool now. You'd 100% know what a Nike TN is.

Josh: What is a TN? Just tell me, you don't have to go—

Mason: I actually don't know what they look like. It's just a popular Nike shoe.

Tommy: Seriously popular. And they've made it cool. They used to be real ratty, they used to— like rats used to wear them when I was growing up. Now they've come back in, hipsters in Collingwood wear them with their pants, their, um, you know.

Josh: I think I've got a pair. Are they like '90s? 90s or something.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that would have been late '90s when they were rocking around in my day. And then, um, and then later, yeah, they've come back in. They always do cycles and stuff. So anyway, he was wearing that kind of stuff, which we all were. And then I saw him and it was that motorbike-esque, um, sailor tattoo style. And then they're all up his arm, like, you know, like sort of, um, snake Not super easy to hide. Very, very hard to hide. And so, but he hadn't gone like neck and stuff. Like, I've got— I know some guys who've got face tats and hard to come back from that one.

Josh: I mean, the good— the one thing about a face tat is it's setting you up to be like some sort of top dog.

Tommy: But what about if you didn't want to be someone who just punches people in there?

Josh: But that's what— that could be the confusing— like, I'm probably the perfect perfect candidate. Yeah, for a neck tattoo.

Tommy: No, why?

Josh: Because I have the contrast of just being this geek. Yeah. And then it's like, he definitely doesn't have street cred. It's like, oh my God, he's got so much street cred, and now he's a reformed— like, now he's a geek.

Tommy: You can't do that. No way.

Josh: What would happen to my neckbeard?

Tommy: You could hide it in the neckbeard.

Josh: Really? I probably could too.

Tommy: You could definitely—

Josh: after 2 days.

Tommy: I mean, I'm almost hiding my back tattoo with my back hair.

Josh: Yeah, it does have, does have that vibe. Have you ever thought about getting it removed?

Tommy: Uh, no, because it leaves a fucking huge scar in the shape of it. Mark Wahlberg, I heard him on some TV show recently, and he has a bunch of tattoos from when he was younger, and he's done— they said to him, oh, it's about 8 sessions to have it removed. He said he's been 30-something times, and he's got money, and so each session's probably $400, $200, or whatever it is. Still a lot of money over that time. And so I don't know, I've thought about getting more, just adding.

Josh: Yeah, because there's even, um, our mate Michelle from Shameless.

Tommy: Oh yeah, she's got one.

Josh: No, got her eyebrows tattooed.

Tommy: Oh yeah, a lot of, a lot of women are getting that done.

Josh: It's very common. The thing is, I wonder, I was wondering whether I would ever get them done. Specifically, I think it is a female thing to like not be on flake all the time. Yeah, but I wonder, like, to get them done. No, well, I was just wondering in in that position, there's a risk and reward that you're working on, which is they look epic now. However, will we ever see a time like the '90s where the single, like, real small eyebrows—

Tommy: like, is it ever gonna be though?

Josh: So will it ever become fashionable to have no eyebrows? And they're like, what the fuck?

Tommy: I would put my money on it.

Josh: It's a safe—

Tommy: have you seen how weird— have you seen how weird people look?

Josh: Well, people— there's people who have medical stuff that don't—

Tommy: I know that, I know that, and that's hard for them. But I think for the majority of people, it's like take away your nipples and belly button, you know how fucking weird you look.

Josh: There's other people who don't have that too.

Tommy: Yeah, exactly. My mate was born with 3, so he can give one away if he needs to.

Josh: Is that your rule? If you've got a mate that's experienced it, you can— I get it.

Tommy: Imagine if you didn't have a nose.

Josh: Yeah, there's people who don't have noses too.

Tommy: Imagine if you didn't have ears.

Josh: Yeah, it would look— it would look—

Tommy: it would be strikingly different to the eye.

Josh: But things are changing too, like The technology and stuff is getting so much better. Yeah, like I'm wondering how long, you know, you're giving pushback yesterday on me taping up my back, um, if I'm in pain. Yeah, but what about if I could actually have a back brace that made me sort of like have better back muscles?

Tommy: It's still the guy that wants to take a pill, because what happens when—

Josh: but what about if you're wearing it constantly?

Tommy: Yeah, but then it's doing the work for you, so your back will just completely disappear. It'll just be like, you'll be just—

Josh: you'll, you'll— but if you don't need the back, if you've got a guarantee that this is a thing that you're always wearing, I guess it would become very cool to be like doing Instagram posts of like, hey look, I don't have my back brace on and look at my back muscle. Like, that will then become the thing that people seek.

Tommy: It's a weird thought. You'd— would you get rid of an arm and put a prosthetic one on if you could?

Josh: No, no, I definitely wouldn't get rid of it.

Tommy: No, but you don't, you still have it, but it's just like become super strong.

Mason: No.

Tommy: Or, um, why not?

Josh: I just think that it's, um, I'm happy at the moment.

Tommy: I had, I've got earring holes too. They've closed up now, but you can definitely, can you see it?

Josh: See that?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Have you squeezed yours?

Tommy: For what reason? To get what, what do you mean? Like, have I squeezed it?

Josh: Because the holes like close up. Yeah, so if you squeeze it, you can get some like rank—

Tommy: Oh yeah, I have.

Josh: You have? So you have done it?

Tommy: Yeah, but I was wanting to know what you meant by squeeze. What's the purpose of doing it? To get something out of the ear hole?

Josh: Well, because you're literally like, it's building up like a worm, skin worm.

Tommy: Oh geez.

Josh: You can just pull it out. I got my earring too.

Mason: Did you?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: No chance. I can't see it. Oh, you did. You did, little thug. Yeah, I bet you were the kid that had to wear gold because he was allergic to the silver.

Josh: Yes, definitely. But I know I'd get infected from Yeah, there was a good portion of time where I just could only wear a stud. I wanted to wear like—

Tommy: the only time you were all stud.

Josh: Yeah, but I wanted to, uh, we had the Nike ticks from Dandenong Market. Did you? Did you know about that?

Tommy: No.

Josh: So it's just like a Nike, a Nike tick.

Tommy: My friend who, uh, I'll try and find a photo. He had a Nike tattoo.

Josh: A Nike tattoo?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Fuck. I will try and find a photo of me wearing a Nike tick Yeah, it was in the days where I was wearing, you know, Juice jumpers or USA jumpers. Yeah, talking about allergies, that's that same time as TNs, by the way.

Tommy: You just probably didn't rock, didn't get the shoes.

Josh: Well, I was a Globe guy.

Tommy: Yeah, Globe, they were there too.

Josh: Do you remember the, the, um, the character, was it called Industry or whatever? Like, it was, it had like the flame head sort of thing. It was like an emoji-looking thing. No, it wasn't Vulcan, it was something Industries.

Tommy: Yeah, interesting. I can't remember. There was a—

Josh: yeah, can you type in Industry's Face logo?

Tommy: I remember there was—

Josh: I saw it at DFO. I remember DFO had it and it was sort of like a skating sort of brand. Yeah, but I was also allergic to henna tattoos. Henna tattoos, or like the temporary tattoos that you'd get in Bali.

Tommy: Yeah, I think Amy's sister had allergic reaction to one recently.

Josh: It's not great. I mean, Bali in 2000, uh, 1998 when we went.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: It was just Melbourne for people who weren't overseas at that time. In Melbourne, it was the gas crisis where there was no, there was no gas.

Tommy: Oh yeah, I remember that. The plant explosion.

Josh: Was it?

Tommy: I don't know what happened, but I remember Longford Gas. Look up that Longford Gas.

Josh: What about the industry thing? I couldn't find it.

Tommy: Longford Gas. Just write that Longford Gas strike or something.

Josh: Well, so I remember coming home, we got like the tail end of it. So we were away luckily when it was all happening. But you didn't have hot water, so you'd have to use a kettle, fill it up, and everyone was fucking having a bath together. Yeah, I would have been 8, but Bali, 1998, you know, blond hair, blue eyes, glasses. The Balinese would call me funny boy. Funny boy. And so I would just like funny boy. I think I was always joking around and stuff and I bought a harmonica. Using the harmonica.

Tommy: Really playing into that stereotype. Funny boy.

Josh: Funny boy. And I had, um, uh, I just remember going to Hard Rock Cafe.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And they had the big sumo suits and we did all that. It was— I was just wearing every day just wearing like Hawaiian shirts, like big, like, you know, a little fat kid with a big Hawaiian shirt. I'll try— I've definitely got photos. And we did all the stuff with the, um, oh yeah, we did the whole Bogan Experience, like the fake, like shitty rings. Oh yeah, so many rings. Look like the fucking Godfather or something.

Tommy: I put on a ring, and I remember I was with my dad in one of the sort of dingy streets of Bali back in the day, and the guy, he got stuck on my hand.

Josh: I think it's a rite of passage. I think being in Bali and having a ring that won't come off, and there's a sense that we might have to go to an Indonesian hospital.

Tommy: Anyway, so the guy, I just remember so clearly, he had these really long nails and was just like getting it. I just like, I remember just the fear.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then it just came off. I don't even know what, why I was trying on a ring. Maybe it's just the thing getting braids in your hair as well.

Josh: Trying to buy a laser. Yeah, you brought them home and stuff.

Tommy: Did you find out? Yeah. What happened?

Mason: It's, um, so there was a massive gas explosion.

Josh: Was it like September?

Mason: Yeah, September 1998. Wow. Killed 2 people, injured 8.

Josh: Oh well, yeah, don't lead with that. I was telling my Bali story.

Tommy: And yeah, lasted 4 days.

Mason: Fire developed that lasted 4 days.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: And gas supplies resumed in October.

Tommy: Weird, huh, that it's from this one place it's sending out all the gas.

Josh: Are you impressed that I knew the exact—

Tommy: It's great. '98.

Josh: Because I used to always go— September was always the time that we would go away. That was the same. I was always sort of away.

Tommy: Third term holidays here in Australia. That was the big time everyone would sort of jet set out.

Josh: I mean, Daydream Island was a big one. I was very lucky. My parents, yeah, I know.

Tommy: I mean, we had burb life but had, um, baller life.

Josh: Yeah, when it came to holidays and trips, it's a good—

Tommy: it's not a bad way. We went to, um, Noosa. That was the place where we went for third term. Very, very Wesley, very private school to do.

Josh: Yeah, we would go, um, Daydream Island. We went twice. It was in Queensland, in the island, sort of Whitsundays, I think, sort of area. It's now, I think, like an all, um, an adult resort, adult only. But at the time it was like, I just remember Club Med.

Tommy: Was it Club Med? Yeah, they were the ones that were family friendly. They've got like the exercise, not exercise, but just fun.

Josh: Well, the annoying thing for my parents is I just hated anything that involved kids. I fucking hated kids from like the age of like 6. Yeah. And so kids club, I was just like, I have time for shit.

Tommy: Did you realise you were one of them?

Josh: No, because I was like, I was more sort of like Friday night karaoke. I did like the national anthem.

Tommy: But what was it?

Josh: Did you daydream?

Tommy: Believe along with the kids, or was it like—

Josh: I just didn't have time for their shit. I'm like, I'm like, okay, so we're doing all this finger painting, that's all fucking cute, but I've got like things to make, things to do.

Tommy: It's so funny.

Josh: So yeah, I was, I was quite annoying in that regard.

Tommy: Amy said, um, to me yesterday, how amazing is it that we get to shower and bathe in drinking water?

Josh: Which is just, if you think about it, how often do you drink shit through the shower?

Tommy: Yeah, a bit. I just, I don't like drinking lukewarm water. It's not my go-to. Bodhi, oh my, I'll tell you what a baby does. He pisses in the bath and then fills the cup up and drinks the water from the bath. No fucks given.

Josh: Yeah, it's not ideal. I definitely love like a sort of, ah, yeah, yeah, take a little bit. Yeah, but, um, did you go on any school holiday— sorry, any holidays when you were growing up? 97.

Mason: Yeah, the, the one, the one that remembers, the one that I remember was we went to, uh, Hamilton Island.

Josh: Oh yeah, Hamilton Island.

Mason: Fuck, I, um, there was— now there's, there's an island that's just off that that starts with H as well, but like you got, you fly to Hamilton Island or whatever and then you go there.

Tommy: But which one was better? Is it an upgrade or a downgrade?

Mason: No, it's an upgrade.

Josh: Yeah, it is great.

Mason: Um, but yeah, no, I remember that it was, yeah, a big tropical holiday. It's great.

Josh: Golf carts, always fun on those sort of trips, getting silly on golf carts.

Tommy: Did you— so you and your two brothers, mum and dad? Yeah.

Mason: Yeah, the whole family.

Tommy: What were you like? What were your— what were the boys like in your household? Were they well behaved or—

Mason: Yeah, all right, yeah, we're pretty well behaved. I mean, early days we, we, uh, fought a little bit and like chased after each other and that sort of stuff. But no, always on like family holidays we just, I don't know, went out and went to the gym with Dad or did something like that.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: You're close in age to the brothers?

Mason: Yeah, like 1, 1, 1 and 2 years.

Tommy: Like when I'm in Bali and I'm I'm 8, my brother's 16. So he— I remember him getting bintangs, you know, sneaking a few beers over there because they don't give a shit back then.

Josh: No, I just remember like definitely I feel like my brothers and I are the sort of family that would get into such a bad fight on a flight that they'd have to turn it around, like a Jetstar flight. You'd hear it on the news.

Tommy: Yeah, did you have any blowups?

Josh: Well, I hit my brother with a golf club.

Tommy: Oh, that's right.

Josh: Marimbula.

Mason: That's right.

Josh: And it was the one night that Mum and Dad had off and some other people were looking after us, and Mum said she's never been more embarrassed in her life. That was also the same trip, Merimbula, where I remember we went to a Mexican restaurant and there was a whole table of elderly people and they had a set menu. But it turns out that the taquitos had the shells were too hard, so they couldn't eat them. And it was the first time I'd ever had a taquito. Fucking delicious.

Tommy: First time. And how many did you have the first time?

Josh: Yeah, a lot. They were like, because they're almost like, imagine like a spring roll but Mexican flavor.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. It's so, and like a lot of beef in it. Yeah. I just remember just being like, fucked up. I'm just smashing it. So, but the other exciting thing of the holiday, the, to Hamilton Island that I remember, I was, I got to sit next to, and I've told you this before, 97 wouldn't know. Do you know who Geoff Jans is?

Tommy: If he knew that, I don't know, I'd give him shares at the company. That's a big, that's a big feat.

Josh: Absolutely not.

Tommy: Uh, my shit.

Josh: Do you know Huey?

Mason: No.

Tommy: Huey's Cooking Adventures?

Mason: Nah.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Uh, do you remember Big Kev?

Mason: Nope.

Tommy: Oh, yeah, Big Kev's excited. He died of a heart attack. He's really a bit overly excited, red face, just like had a whole bunch of shower power.

Josh: Anyway, he's not doing remover. But Geoff Jans, uh, Sri Lankan dude. Yeah. Uh, he's a, um, he was a celebrity chef in the '90s, and when I was a kid, I would watch, uh, Beauty and the Beast, Beauty and the Beast, which was like that panel show. Yeah. Do you remember that?

Tommy: No, I don't. Yeah, they, um, I just remember Diane and, um, Bert.

Josh: Oh, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, Geoff Jans would sort of, um, he would have a, have a show, and I would constantly watch him cooking. But anyway, I was sitting on the plane and I was sat next to Geoff Janss, my idol. Oh, bastard. I kept my cool for the whole flight and then as we were landing—

Tommy: You did though, you did.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, but then I was probably so obvious. I can imagine me just fucking looking at my mum, be like, it's Geoff. Anyway, so at the end we started talking and he said that he was going to be playing golf. And I played golf a lot. This was what I would have been.

Tommy: Oh, he said he plays golf, so you said, I'm going to take up golf.

Josh: No, no, no, but I've got— I played golf. And so hearing that, he's like, oh yeah, I'm sort of on a trip, we're doing golf and all that sort of thing. I was like, I love golf. I had a handicap of like 32, which is the highest handicap you could have, which just means that I basically was not very good. Horrible. But they— I said to him, oh, it'd be great to play golf. But anyway, before I got off the plane, before we started landing, I got my mum to get the camera out and I've got in my Hamilton Island holiday video from what would have been about '03, '04. Yeah, actually. Yeah, '03. It's just me sitting next to Geoff Janss. I'm like, hey everyone, it's Josh here and I'm sitting next to Geoff Janss. And that was it. And then a balloon transition goes off. It's a VCD. If we could work out a way of playing the VCD.

Tommy: Yeah, true. Computer— no, none of our computers have CD-ROM drives. I wonder if— did you like, did you say that you knew who he was? Like, because at that moment where he's just been sitting next to this kid who's been playing it cool, next minute he does a PTC, peace to camera, and says his name.

Josh: I'm sure, I'm sure my mum would— like, when you're that age, there's a bit of shtick that you're doing as a kid, which is like, I'm so fucking dumb, I don't know anything. And so, and then it's mum's job to be like, He's very excited. Because it would be very— it would be sort of— it'd be full-on if I was like, hey, Geoff, I love your show, do you mind signing this release form and being in my video? Which is something that I probably would. But the funny thing about my holiday videos, if you watch them back, there's actually no footage of my family because they hated being filmed.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: So it's all my— it's probably the saddest thing you've ever seen. My holiday videos are zoomed in videos of all these other families, just, and just, just, uh, voiceover.

Tommy: That looked fun.

Josh: That was a lot of music. I just dubbed music and a lot of seagulls as well. Every time there was a seagull, like, Mum, get the camera! I'll be fucking zooming in.

Tommy: My family like to be filmed, so Mum's going to come on the show.

Josh: Oh really? So this is exciting.

Tommy: What's the date today?

Josh: Uh, today is the 2nd of May.

Tommy: When's Mother's Day? I should know that because I've—

Josh: 12th of May. It's Bree's birthday on the 12th of May. If you want to send Bree a Happy birthday, please.

Tommy: But we'll try and we'll get Mum on for Mother's Day.

Josh: Yeah, that'd be great. I've asked my Mum.

Tommy: What'd she say?

Josh: She's not sure at this point. Well, I mean, she says that I make, I just make fun of her, which I don't think is true.

Tommy: You do a great voice.

Josh: Yeah, which is a bit of shtick. She's the queen of shtick, surely. I think so. I hope that it's all shtick.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I'd love to have your Mum on. It'd be fun in the middle, just, you know, seeing if—

Josh: I think that the—

Tommy: What are you worried about? Are you worried about—

Josh: I'm worried about the terms that she'll set.

Tommy: She sets terms?

Josh: Yeah, that's what I mean. I feel like she'll be like, you're a chip off the old block, like we're only doing this, this, and this.

Tommy: She's a rider?

Josh: Yeah, a little bit like that. Absolutely.

Tommy: What do you think would seal the deal for getting your mum on? What could we promise her? What could we—

Josh: If it was Jake's show, her favourite son.

Tommy: Oh really?

Josh: She said that. She said if Jake was doing it, I would do it.

Tommy: Could we have Jake sort of over there with guitar ready? And he just, just every moment, we just— I think he can strum us in.

Josh: I think that's perfect. I think if we had Jake on the couch, yeah, who was sort of a safety net for Mum, so at any point that she felt uncomfortable, she could say, Jake, Josh is doing my voice again. Then he comes in and says, Josh, stop it, Mum doesn't like that.

Tommy: Do you do the voice to Mum?

Josh: The voice. You do?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And he would— but Jake was always the one when mum would cry, Jake was always the one that would hug her and say, are you okay? So I understand.

Tommy: So you were the little shit?

Josh: No, I wasn't the shit, but I just realised that it was a bit of shtick as well. It was a manipulation tool. She wanted me to stop like doing whatever I was doing.

Tommy: Or you were just being mean and she was crying.

Josh: There's a bit of that, but it's just like— but I do remember a lot of like, you're gonna be the end of our, like, our family, you know, that sort of stuff.

Tommy: Oh no.

Josh: Anyway, it's a daily talk show. Uh, feel free— like, it was great getting those, um, reviews.

Tommy: Yeah, it's lovely.

Josh: Apple Podcast. So if you want to do that, or you can subscribe on our YouTube channel. Otherwise, tomorrow, 3D Dill. Oh, fuck, he's in Melbourne.

Tommy: He'd be in a plane, on a plane right now. I hope he's drinking 5 bottles of wine to get himself to sleep. He wakes up in Australia.

Josh: I got stressed because I got a text from him Oh, what, you thought he'd pulled the pin? No, you got a photo? No, no, that was Mr. 97 taking a photo of being at the gym, which is a whole nother story.

Tommy: Oh geez, that was just a weird little sort of world I entered into.

Josh: Yeah, sorry about that. That's a private DMs of 97. It's not even that bad.

Tommy: Who was flexing?

Josh: It was Jase flexing.

Mason: Yeah, it was, it was, it was a photo of my mates at the gym. I wasn't in the photo.

Tommy: Who's pretty— he looks like he's pretty keen on himself.

Josh: He loves it. He's an actor.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: On StarNow. What's his StarNow profile name, do you know?

Mason: Uh, Jakeorf. J-A-Y-K-O-R-F. Jakeorf.

Josh: So if you're looking any short films or stuff, get Jake involved. What do you think he would sort of shine in? What sort of role?

Tommy: Oh, he does have a quite like a—

Josh: he's Greek.

Tommy: Uh, he's got like a Taylor Lautner, like there is a traditional Hollywood look Yeah, he's closer to that. Like, he's the, he's the jock-looking dude.

Mason: I can imagine something similar. It's like Riverdale or something like that.

Tommy: Oh yeah, my mate Riverdale.

Josh: Yeah, isn't Riverdale the thing where they get the strip?

Tommy: No, no, Julian Haig is in Riverdale. He's a Melbourne dude who I shot a scene for him before he left to move to Canada. I shot like a, an acting scene for his showreel, and, um, and then he went off to Canada trying to make it. And landed a role on Riverdale. It's huge, dude. The main girl in that has like 14 million Insta followers. She's— they're so— it's such a big show. Is it your age, 19-year-olds or younger?

Mason: No, no, sort of, yeah, my age, younger.

Tommy: Yeah, we'll get him on the show when he's done.

Josh: Anyway, 3D Dill, I said to him this morning, pumped, have a great flight, mate. And he said, so Mel, how would you describe the weather at the moment in Melbourne 97?

Mason: Uh, cold, rainy.

Tommy: Cancer!

Josh: That's what 97 says. I don't think we've ever done it on the show before.

Tommy: The young kids say it.

Josh: 97 used to say when something was bad it was cancer, and we sort of put him in line, said, you don't say that.

Tommy: It's a young— I've heard so many people say it now.

Josh: Does your mum tell you off when you say cancer? No.

Tommy: Okay. Testicular.

Josh: What was that?

Tommy: Testicular cancer. At least put some name to what type of—

Josh: are you doing gear based on cancer? I don't know if that's good.

Tommy: I'm not the one who fucking does— who says it just naturally.

Josh: Okay, there's no save from 3D. So 3D Deal says, uh, thank you, pretty cold here in Toronto today, so looking forward to some good Australian weather. Oops. Yeah, um, do you reckon 3D Toronto?

Tommy: He's heading for Toronto. Ask Siri what the weather in Toronto is.

Josh: Hey Siri, hey Siri, he's just— yeah, what's the weather in Toronto?

Tommy: It's currently cloudy and 7 degrees in Toronto, Canada. So it's only half rain and cloudy skies starting tonight. No, that's cold. It's so cold, dude. 7 degrees and it's— it was snowing there. I saw a photo he put up recently.

Josh: Okay, well, he's heading to Vancouver first. He's got— that's where he's his stopover is, but I'm sure he just spends time at the airport.

Tommy: Straight out.

Josh: Great deal. If you're listening to this and you're on the plane, we'll see you soon, mate.

Tommy: We'll see you at the airport. Have we told him that we're going to the airport to pick him up?

Josh: Yeah. How else the fuck are you going to force him to do it?

Tommy: I actually— You're on a message thread with him. So unless you're sharing it with me, I've got to ask questions.

Josh: Well, we actually, we had an issue with my mate Jack Post, who we've had on the show previously. Where we decided to, uh, Bri and I and Jack's wife, we would surprise him at the airport. And so what we, we had Bianca, uh, Jack's wife, dressed up in a limo driver suit. Yeah, great, with a sign. And we said to Jack, uh, Bianca texted and said, hey, I've actually organised an Uber for you, uh, just, um, that he's just waiting for you anyway. Uh, we're waiting. Bianca's, you know, got all of her— she's looking hilarious, she's in a suit. And then it's like 5 minutes go by and 10 minutes go by, 15 minutes go by. It's like, you should be out, have gone through by now. Anyway, we, um, uh, Bianca texts him. He's like, oh, I couldn't see him, so I just got another car. And he'd fucking gone out the other way, the other exit. Oh no, missed him. And he was on his way home. Isn't that so annoying?

Tommy: That is so annoying.

Josh: Surely Jack—

Tommy: It sounds like something I think I could imagine Jack doing that.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I would never ditch an Uber because then the person's getting the fine, the $10 fee or something. Yeah.

Josh: So anyway, that was slightly upsetting.

Tommy: Oh no. So annoying. Also, I could imagine Jack's like feeling like, oh, that's so fucking annoying.

Josh: But he's also tight. No, but maybe he was also— Maybe he knew there was something up. He's just like, I don't have time for this. I've just been in Hong Kong or some shit.

Tommy: Anyway, anyway, hopefully we don't stuff it up. Well, he's got— he doesn't know where to go, so we're his only hope.

Josh: Oh yeah, I wonder what we do. We need to get him a SIM card as well.

Tommy: Yeah, easy.

Josh: You're going to get him Amazeem, aren't you? So then we don't fucking have— he won't have reception anywhere. Amazeem?

Mason: Yeah, Amazeem.

Tommy: Is that what you've got?

Mason: No.

Tommy: What do you reckon?

Mason: Optus.

Tommy: Okay, I'm on Boost. I'm on that prepaid juice.

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