Tommy's Anxious Dream

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 271. Can you—

Tommy: I went too early.

Josh: Can you not touch the soundboard?

Tommy: Um, this is what happens when you get a new toy, you start just wanting—

Josh: still there, still hurts. We're using the RODECaster. Yeah, RODE hooked us up. Yeah, got new microphones. You'll probably notice we sound different. It's a lot easier to produce the show now.

Tommy: This is the first time I've really worn headphones during your show.

Josh: What do you think?

Tommy: I'm hot. I'm over it. I'm really hot. This brings me back to when we'd have to wear headphones doing the show in Shepparton, and I'll just be so hot. I remember sweating after some breaks, and it's the headphones.

Josh: So breaks, for people who don't play at home, they're talk breaks is what you mean?

Tommy: Oh yeah, condensing a whole storey into sort of 2 and a half minutes. Short and sharp, guys.

Josh: Could we, could we maybe treat this show as a little bit of a radio show? Could we, if we, this is our reel for, uh, Brad March if you're watching or listening, or, uh, Guy Dobbo.

Tommy: I don't know what Dobbo's doing now, but if you want a job with the big media company, exactly, send resumes hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

Josh: So RODECaster, like RODE have, uh, they've got this like sound pad. Yeah, if you're watching the video you might be able to see it, but there's, um You press buttons and it plays music. So you're doing the laugh one.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I just press whatever. I don't know what they do. Can I press another one?

Josh: So there you go. That's sort of like a magic.

Tommy: I like that you've walked into some kind of room at a swingers party and then that noise goes off. Yeah, well, I don't know about the— I mean, we're not a radio show, so we can't really do the talk breaks.

Josh: But when I was a kid, Yeah, like I never did on-air radio. I was always behind the scenes and stuff. But when I was a kid, I was obsessed with talking to the post.

Tommy: What do you mean talking to the post? What, like the post, a wooden post?

Josh: No, do you know what? You've been in radio. Are you fucking kidding me? I have no idea what talking to the post means. The post is when the lyrics start, so it's about getting out the exact same time.

Tommy: See, here's why I probably— you should have had the job in Shepparton over me, because I'm not a radio guy. Like, I have no idea. I just thought that's when the beat dropped. Or so I could just see it had like 30 seconds. It was cool. It had like 30 seconds before the main beat drops. Yeah, great, the post.

Josh: Anyway, I've— what I've discovered—

Tommy: Annoyed radio nerds at me that I got a job in radio.

Josh: It is sort of frustrating. Yeah. Who was it? Someone called you out of it. Called me out? Yeah, remember you were saying, ah yeah, I was just doing a sort of a a thing just to try, but it wasn't really that into it.

Tommy: Then someone called me out.

Josh: Yeah, someone said, oh well, you took that job from someone else. Oh, you remember that? It was some radio person, most likely, uh, maybe Gondi. I think Gondi did it.

Tommy: He's a radio nerd.

Josh: So this is— given we've got the, the RODECaster and the Pre puts— I'm guessing, I'm guessing this is royalty-free music that they've loaded up.

Tommy: It would have to be, otherwise it's a big stitch-up from RØDE. We're gonna get sued.

Josh: Maybe RØDE owns it and they're gonna— that's their whole thing is you play the music and they come after you for licensing.

Tommy: Not a bad idea. Not to take profit of the show, but sorry mate, there's no profit.

Josh: But you will exactly sucked in on who? Maybe us. We'll find out. But no, how about, um, so just indulge me. I just want to do a big, a bit where I'll bring you in. Yes. When I want you. But this is me. This will be like my, um, what do you call it? It's not a reel when you're giving them a sample. Yeah, your audio reel.

Tommy: Audio, you're asking, you're asking more radio questions, got no idea.

Josh: Now what was the thing that you'd send like a talk break?

Tommy: Air check.

Josh: Air check.

Tommy: Okay, ready?

Josh: Okay, so I'm just gonna play some music. All right, and then we'll go into it.

Tommy: Here we go.

Josh: Oh wow, yes, it is the Daily Talk Show. Hi everyone, hope you're staying nice and cool. It is, uh, 32 degrees right now, top of 34.

Tommy: It's hot.

Josh: Didn't say I was bringing you in yet. Uh, today though special guest. So that's why I think every time that I have a little bit of a break, I sort of bring it up a little bit. We've got Tommy Jackett who's joining us. He's going to tell us, uh, how to, uh, win it big in the pokies. But, um, before that, let's, uh, play this track. This is Shania Twain topping it up on the Hot 30 Countdown live around Australia. And then The post plays.

Tommy: Yeah, so that— I tried to do that writing stuff where you'd bring it up after talking.

Josh: I'm sure that sounded horrendous.

Tommy: It does, it sounds horrendous. Byron Cook, who's a radio genius, big nerd, he got a job in radio, he does that and he does it well. I just tried to do it. Maybe it was the 70-year-old desk that I was using in Shepparton. Now you can buy them for fucking $900. Yeah, it's actually outrageous.

Josh: It's very good. But the, um, Talking about radio stuff, Hottest 100.

Tommy: What about it? Is it— oh, Hottest 100. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: What about it? What is it? It was just on.

Tommy: Oh, okay. So it traditionally fell on Australia Day. They moved, they moved it and it was then on the Saturday, Sunday. So yesterday I was going past Sunday. Ah, fuck.

Josh: Today's Tuesday, and it's 1 PM.

Tommy: But on Sunday I was driving past a park in St. Kilda Botanical Gardens, local spot for me. It's beautiful, but people just take it over for the Hot 100, Hottest 100. And people would like— there was security guards at every entrance of the park because now people used to bring like full DJ setups. But what is it, sound system?

Josh: So it's Triple J, which is like— is it a community station?

Tommy: No, they're basically a commercial station now.

Josh: But what is basically commercial? Like, where basically they make money?

Tommy: Or is it funded by the ABC? I think it's Funded by the government. Yeah, sure. But it was always the non-commercial radio station.

Josh: But hipsters—

Tommy: the non-pop station. So a popular station, but it's now one of the most popular stations. So it's kind of done a, you know, U-turn. But the idea of it is every year there's a countdown. People vote from 100 down to number 1, the number 1 song in Australia. And it is a good day.

Josh: Did you know the song? The number 1 song?

Tommy: What won it? I don't know it. I don't know.

Josh: Well, no, I didn't. I just thought that I would— Mr. 97, can you tell us? Yeah, what it was. But the thing, the idea is that you're meant to be around a barbecue and enjoying it.

Tommy: Yeah, getting shit-faced like all the people at the park. And so that, I mean, yeah.

Josh: And so what, these people at the park, would they only have one speaker system between everyone?

Tommy: No, no, there was like little nooks. It got shut down, you can't do it anymore. But there was like people would bring a marquee set up, it was ridiculous. Turntable, generators, like lamb spit. It was crazy.

Josh: What have you got?

Tommy: People doing drugs in the bushes. Yeah, uh, Confidence by Ocean Alley.

Josh: Never heard of it.

Tommy: Never heard of it. No, never heard of it.

Josh: Now I didn't think that I'd, uh, heard of it. Like when I heard the song, I hadn't heard of it. Yeah, you did, uh, street team.

Tommy: Yes, I did. That was where you go out and there's a promotion happening. A sponsor is paying money to send out—

Josh: are you losing your voice today? I don't know, are you noticing that?

Tommy: Yeah, I've been— it sounds like I'm about to cry. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? No, I woke up. I don't feel 100% today.

Josh: Bit rattled.

Tommy: And I woke up in the— probably I didn't cheque the time, but then when I woke up at 5:30, which is when I had my alarm, it felt like it was only an hour later. So it was middle of the night essentially. Yeah. And I woke up and I felt crook in the guts and I was just like, oh no. And I just fucking— I was like, oh shit. But then I went back to sleep and I had this dream, and it was just driven by the anxiety of missing a show, missing the daily talk show 5 days a week. Mr. 97, you weren't even in it.

Josh: I wasn't in it.

Tommy: No, it was me and Mr. 97. It was like he'd got crook as well, and then I like— he's walking through a park and then I lost him. But I was thinking about like the anxiety people must feel that, uh, committing to like daily vlogging I mean, we've got 2 days off, but still, we've still got the pressure. And we don't— we have no shows pre-recorded that we could play if all of us got sick. And that was my anxiety in the dream, was that everyone went down and we couldn't do a show.

Josh: So what should we do?

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: You want to pre-record?

Tommy: We need a break the glass show, and it can only be used because I've said let's maybe record it, and you've pushed back on it, which I kind of— I agree because there's there's something about recording them on a daily basis. Yeah, that nothing—

Josh: I've turned—

Tommy: oh, he's turned me off.

Josh: I've turned the audio down so you can't— so we can't—

Tommy: okay, it was like a twitch. I just rapidly hit it. But yeah, the Break the Glass episode where we do something—

Josh: should be some sort of special one.

Tommy: Yeah, maybe with your mum. Get your mum on the show.

Josh: Special one with his mum.

Tommy: A special one with your mum. And so it's your mum in the middle.

Josh: Maybe we could—

Tommy: maybe your mum in the middle, your mum in the middle, and we do one with my mum, we do one with your mum. And if all shit goes— I mean, who saves you? Your parents usually when shit goes pear-shaped.

Josh: I was going to say the Uber Eats guy. Maybe we get the Uber Eats guy to do one.

Tommy: That's pretty interesting. I know you don't talk to the Uber Eats people really.

Josh: What do you mean?

Tommy: I mean, I was thinking Uber drivers. You have a— there's a lot of banter going on with Uber drivers.

Josh: I try and have a little conversation. When it was hot the other day and we got the McDonald's with Christian Howell, I was saying we should have— I felt like I should have given the person something.

Tommy: The Uber Eats?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Well, I went down to him and he was so thankful because he's like, there's no parks here, bro.

Josh: Was he in a car?

Tommy: He was in a car.

Josh: Too much McDonald's to take on a bike?

Tommy: No, I reckon that's easy for them.

Josh: Actually, when I was— so I was a beta tester for Uber Eats before it like was officially in Melbourne. Yeah. And I got a— it's like $150. Bri and I both got $150 each, and it was like a very slow rollout. We knew someone at Uber, one of our friends worked there, and the policy used to be that if they didn't bring it to your door, uh, they'd give you a refund.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: The thing was, no car parks out the front of our joint. Oh, it was a fucking gold mine. I got so— they ended up changing the policy, and I reckon it was because Every time I would complain.

Tommy: And you're getting your— I mean, it's a fairly gronk move.

Josh: But the thing is that I've noticed that they, um, they've gotten, uh, more and more sort of, uh, uh, gronky when it comes to what they actually give refunds for. So the other day, like, we— this was probably like a few months ago.

Tommy: It's not in your favor. It's not enough.

Josh: Yeah, it's not in the customer's favour anymore. Like, we had an incident where I think the meal was meant to include onion rings, let's just say. Yeah, I think it was onion rings. But anyway, so it had onion rings, but there was no onion. We got the order and there was no onion rings. The thing was that they just worked out how much the onion rings was worth and just refunded us that. Yeah, my feeling is they ruined the whole meal.

Tommy: So you wanted full, full refund?

Josh: I wanted a full refund on the meal.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Geez. Am I wrong?

Tommy: Definitely. Because you don't deserve it. They just fucked up. Just don't go there again.

Josh: The thing is, if you're eating a burger or something and you need to have it with— this is the same argument that my dad always had with sweet and sour sauce when they would forget that when we were at McDonald's.

Tommy: Getting the nuggets. You only get that with the nuggets or you get it like you don't have to ask for it usually.

Josh: Well, the thing is that if they don't have the sweet and sour sauce, it's not just a case of, oh, here's a few, sorry for that. Replace the nuggets because they're fucking useless now. Replace the chips.

Tommy: I mean, your compass is way off in some respects.

Josh: In regards to food specifically?

Tommy: Oh, just in terms of how you think about things. So you've got that approach to getting a refund, and so it's all just like, I've got rights as a consumer here.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then I asked you the other day, I lent something out to a friend and then he gave it back to me and I didn't look at it, it was just in the bag. And then I went to sort of rearrange the gear section and I opened the thing that I'd lent out and I opened it up and it was broken. One of the coils off where you put a battery in had come off, so you— it wouldn't work. Like, you couldn't even power this thing. And immediately I was like, I haven't seen that, I think I'd notice that. Who used this last? And then I thought about the person and I wasn't really I don't care that much, and so I wasn't triggered. I was like, it's probably cheap to fix. But then I was like, hey Josh, I took a photo of it. I was like, do you reckon I should send this to my mate and just say, did you notice this?

Josh: Absolutely not.

Tommy: And you, and you're pushing back on the no?

Josh: No, absolutely. I don't think— Mr. 97, can we get you on the mic? What do you think? What do you think about this?

Tommy: Well, I think it's pretty clear-cut. I mean, all I wanted to do was just ask because my thinking is—

Josh: what are you going to get out of that?

Tommy: Well, my thinking is I'm giving him an opportunity to tell me if he noticed that.

Josh: 'Hey mate, I'm just trying to work out who to blame. So did you— was it you? I just need to know.' Like, what do you think?

Tommy: I'd rather him give me his response. But wouldn't he think he— that he did it?

Josh: What I mean, what is the response that he could give?

Tommy: 'Hey dude, no, I didn't. Um, that's so weird.

Josh: I'm so sorry.' And then what do you say back?

Tommy: It's a hard—

Josh: then what do you— then what do you say back?

Tommy: Oh, good.

Josh: In your head, but what do you think? Well, I know what you think.

Tommy: No, no, I honestly— no, no, no. If he told me that he didn't do it and he didn't notice it, I would believe him. So that's what I'm giving him the opportunity.

Josh: Mr. 97, what do you think?

Tommy: I'd probably send a photo. Would you? I reckon, I reckon I'd pull a Tommy.

Josh: I'd ask— pull a Tommy. I like that it's become a thing. No, but I just, I don't know what you asked the dude who last borrowed the thing if he broke it. No, but I just feel like it's, um, you can only— if I was at the other end of getting that, I'd like, ah, this is bullshit. This is like— we had a mate who uh, borrowed an expensive camera. The guy got the camera back, and then when the guy was using it, it fucked up, and he blamed our friend who used it last. That's gronk.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: But what's the difference? So I just think that, like, I don't know if you're trying to work out what are you going to get. Like, do you want your mate to pay?

Tommy: No, I'm just curious as to, to know how it happened because you could— if I am immediately thinking maybe he did do it, I'm then giving him the opportunity to tell me otherwise. So I didn't notice it, because then he's a mate. I'd think— I'm not going to go, you're a fucking dog.

Josh: But could it have already done— could it have already happened before he got it? He saw it. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: And then if he made it work, I'd be like, oh shit, yeah, no problem. But I just feel like it was something that you'd notice if you're going to use it. And so it's a hard one, lending shit to people, friends especially. It is very hard.

Josh: I don't lend that much stuff.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, there's the— you've got a few cases people don't bring shit back to you if you've lent it to them. Yeah, like it's extended period of time, that's really annoying. But the broken one is the most annoying thing because then, because then you don't want to be the person that never is generous with.

Josh: Yeah, well, like, when is general— like, I'm even— I even think about like intros.

Tommy: I'm too hot, bro. I could take—

Josh: yeah, you can, you can take the headphones off. No, I've been thinking about like, uh, should I take mine off as well or no? Maybe I'll just put them around. No, I'll just, I'll just do that. So the, uh, I've been thinking about it with introducing people. So I've got like— I've had friends who have said, hey, um, they work in radio or whatever, they're like, oh, I want to, um, I want to do this thing with, uh, one of your friends 'Can you give me their details?' or 'Can you put them in contact?' Like, when I want to support my friends, but I also want to like protect my other friends that are—

Tommy: do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think there's a lot of people in this world that have— it's, it's not the greatest ability. Like, it, it's an ability, but it's not the greatest quality of not thinking about what they're asking and how it makes what position it puts them in.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So yeah, you're asked— like, I've been asked to connect people before.

Josh: Didn't you do it? You did it with, um, what— can you explain what happened or no?

Tommy: Well, I thought that this was a moment where I could give Jules Lund's number to somebody.

Josh: So Jules Lund, for people outside of Australia, he is a sort of a— he was on a very popular travel show called Getaway. Yes. He then was on the national radio show, and now he has a company called Tribe.

Tommy: Yeah, he's a very successful person.

Josh: Yeah. So he's sort of like a little bit, uh, within the context of Australia, he is a celebrity.

Tommy: Yeah. So he's— he would probably say he's a D-grade celebrity, but if you just—

Josh: if none of the rest of the world existed and it was just Australia, it'd be a celebrity. He'd be at least a B. Yeah, he definitely is.

Tommy: So what happened was we had a bucks party my brother, and we all met at this location.

Josh: And what was the location?

Tommy: I was down the beach. It sounds dodgy, doesn't it? We just met in the car park down the beach out the front of a bar.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And so Jules had his car there, and he was drinking, so he wasn't going to leave it there the whole time. And, uh, he was going to leave it there because he wasn't going to drive. We're getting onto a bus. And what happened was he took a whole bunch of people's shit and put it in the back of his car. Okay, first mistake if you don't want to have to interact with anyone else. Absolutely. Because at bucks parties, not everyone is mates, right? It's like you've got different groups.

Josh: I've only done one bucks party, I think, and it was, uh, Bree's dad's bucks party, so it was sort of loose. So yeah, it wasn't, wasn't too— oh, actually no, I went to Blah's as well, my mate. Loose. And that was, yeah, that was probably— we went to a strip club.

Tommy: You did?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Interesting.

Josh: And I just remember that there was a huge amount of pressure. People had identified that I was the, uh the non, uh, like, uh, I was gonna say non-alpha male. No, no, well, the thing is, I get it. What was I hearing? I was hearing a comedian the other day who was saying that they are the alpha in the— in non-alpha situations, which I think I am. Yeah, okay. I'm the— I'm the— I am— I laugh at other alphas. That's my alpha move. But anyway, there was a real push to try and get me involved with the stripper stuff, but I just didn't, didn't buy into it.

Tommy: No, I, I just wonder how many bucks parties— so many people are there reluctantly. Yeah, like it makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable. I've been to plenty of buckers and it's, yeah, it's, it's uncomfortable for the buck himself and a lot of people. It's like a lot of dads are there and that's a weird time to be around, you know, your wife's dad. I've been at those ones. Anyway, so, uh, bucks party is happening, stuff left in Jules's car. It came around to the Monday and I get a text from the person saying, mate, can you connect me with Jules? And I need to get the shit out of the car. So I'm just, I'm just in a world of pain. Went so hard at the bucks party. I'm just like, oh no, oh, this is annoying. Like, I kind of felt like it was a bit annoying.

Josh: Should you, in hindsight, in hindsight, you probably should have just texted Jules.

Tommy: I should have done the legwork 100%, but I fucked up and I gave the number to the person and then he got the thing back. But then Jules said to me, mate, fucking don't give my number out, please.

Josh: What was happening? Was the guy texting or something?

Tommy: Yeah, he just started sort of sliding in a few texts over the next few weeks and just the classic case of someone who you don't— didn't want to have your number. Yeah, has your number, not for any other reason that he's— Jules got friends. Yeah, it's not like he's looking for new friends in that person, which I think is fair. Yeah, it's fair. So I fucked up there and I wouldn't do that again. But yeah, it's a hard one, the giving, the lending stuff. I don't want to be tight-ass, I want to be more generous.

Josh: You want to celebrate people too, you want to connect people up, but it's also just that risk of If you connect people up, do you have to— if you're in a position where you have to say to the person you're connecting, hey, just so you know, the person that I'm connecting you with, here's a bunch of context on them just in case they fucking go rogue.

Tommy: I also want though to not— I don't want— I would hate if I borrowed something of somebody. I would hate to think that they're having this dialogue and they can't have it with me, which is Did you break it? Do— did you do anything to this? Yeah, it's very— yeah, so that's where I'm sort of standing on it. So that's why I held off sending the text message, and I don't give a fuck enough to send it, but I wanted to talk about it.

Josh: So have you ever owned a Leatherman?

Tommy: A Leatherman? A Leatherman is a knife. A knife? No, no, actually Swiss Army knives were massive as a kid.

Josh: Leatherman is the new Swiss Army knife.

Tommy: Oh my God, I this is so bad. This kid I went to school with, his dad worked for some arms company.

Josh: And what sort of arms?

Tommy: Like, um, like weapons. Yeah, weapons business. And he's like, dude, I can get you a flick knife.

Josh: Are they not okay?

Tommy: Like, completely illegal in Australia. You can't have— I think butterfly knives are illegal. Like, there was— I was well into knives as a kid and flick knife, so the ones that go out from there, so they actually go around. I don't think you can buy those legally. And then a complete flick knife, so where the blade just shoots out, um, that you see in the movies.

Josh: I just wouldn't be comfortable stabbing someone.

Tommy: Of course not. That's not what— I wasn't comfortable stabbing someone, but I wanted one.

Josh: But if you have one as defense, exactly. This is the thing, the only result can be you stab someone.

Tommy: Exactly. You carry a knife there's high chance of you—

Josh: Well, there's two, there's two, two things that could happen. You stab someone or they get the knife and stab you.

Tommy: True. So I wanted one and I asked this guy, dude, can you get me one off dad? Yeah, he's like, I think I've got one.

Josh: And so what was his dad actually doing, by the way? Like arms dealing?

Tommy: No, he's not arms. I think he actually legit worked for a company that produced this stuff because they weren't illegal then. No, they were illegal then, really? But he might have had an old one. So anyway, this dude brought it And I remember at the Village Cinema in, um, in the Jam Factory.

Josh: So you're smuggling knives into Village? I'm just trying to get my Moro bar that I got from Coles.

Tommy: Trying to get a choccy bar.

Josh: I'm trying to get the choccy bars. I did. It's fucking piling it all up, knowing that my body heat from the nerves is fucking melting that shit.

Tommy: So I got this thing and it's full on.

Josh: And so what did you, uh—

Tommy: It broke.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: So I'm glad it broke because I never carried it around to use or anything. I just had it and I was like, this is cool.

Josh: Well, I've been looking on Amazon of dumb shit to buy.

Tommy: There's a lot of dumb shit on Amazon.

Josh: Yeah, and so knives came up as something that could be— I've been getting obsessed with the everyday carry.

Tommy: What does that mean?

Josh: Everyday carry. If you do— if anyone looks at everyday carry—

Tommy: you're talking— are you still talking about the knife? And everyday carry isn't a knife that you carry every day?

Josh: Yeah, every day carry, it's like, uh, it's on Instagram and shit. But, um, everyday—

Tommy: got a knife over there.

Josh: So everyday— have a look. Where's my knife? Oh yeah, I've got like a little card. It was when I was doing Melbourne Geek back in the day. Someone got my address and sent me this personalised card knife. Full-on. But everyday carry— this is what everyday carry is. So it's like a flat lay, ah, that people do of what they carry in your pocket. And so what I would love is like a little Bellroy wallet, little knife, little, uh, I want a torch, so I've got a torch. My coin, yes, would be in the everyday carry. Okay, I think that's maybe it. Maybe weird.

Tommy: There is a— oh geez, now we're in that one. You're in Texas right now, so what do you think? I mean, you're not carrying— don't carry a knife, dude. It's illegal.

Josh: Can you in Melbourne?

Tommy: Yeah, you can't carry knives.

Josh: But so what does that mean in regards to like if you're a me getting— walking from the car to the office, big knife to cut up fucking— Sure, I'm sure there's salami.

Tommy: Sure, that's fine.

Josh: But what is the actual rule? How do they— like, if I'm not— because I'm in a fucking gang, yeah, surely I'm pretty safe.

Tommy: The type of the knife too. If it looks like a—

Josh: if it's just a— if it's a Leatherman, maybe a Leatherman, like a Leatherman with like a belt thing. The problem is that I'm wearing like a lot of exercise gear at the moment, so it'd be a bit hard, hard to work into this fashion. So I don't know, it's in the same vein as me wanting to buy that book. I don't know if we spoke about it on the show, about knots.

Tommy: Yeah, we did. Well, I brought up the knot thing, but I always forget the knots.

Josh: I was so close to pulling the trigger on buying this book.

Tommy: Yeah, be careful, this is consumerism.

Josh: Yeah, well, this is it. Well, so this one I'm trying to work out, like, I'm looking at through a minimalist lens, which is like, I only want one good knife.

Tommy: What do you—

Josh: one good wallet.

Tommy: What are you like ever going to—

Josh: if you ever said, oh hey Josh, I need to loosen this on the tripod, I'd fucking get the knife and do it.

Tommy: Nah, you got a coin. You've got—

Josh: you actually got your big coin. Probably is too big.

Tommy: You've got the coin that you bought. I actually— I haven't got an update on— I haven't even asked you about this, the book.

Josh: Oh, the Seth Godin book.

Tommy: What's happening with the book?

Josh: It's happening.

Tommy: It's the 29th of— what is it today? 29th.

Josh: So we've only got 3 days. I feel like, um, uh, we need to open it up beyond Trevor Long. I feel like that 500—

Tommy: God, I'm feeling like you're, uh, Backing out?

Josh: No, absolutely not.

Tommy: I want Trev to be out of pocket to charity, $500.

Josh: Was it pocket to charity?

Tommy: Out of pocket. Out of pocket to charity.

Josh: No, so I've gotten to the stage over the weekend, I put the book and all the paper on the dining table. So it's all set up, ready to write. So I probably only have about 10 hours left to do, but I need to start really tonight.

Tommy: I reckon you could get it done. By Thursday, which is the cutoff.

Josh: So for people who don't know, I on— in December decided to, uh, what— can you describe what happened?

Tommy: You decided to take on a feat that is looking kind of like you won't be able to.

Josh: No, I definitely will, because the thing is, I've told Seth. So I emailed Seth, I was like, hey, I had this idea on my podcast, I'm going to rewrite your entire book of This Is Marketing with in handwriting.

Tommy: Yeah, because you were very much wanting to sort of work out how you could take in more information from a book, and one of them is underlining. The next thing is writing. And so, I mean, this is the thing, Trevor's stipulated that he wants it done by the 31st for the bid that he put in.

Josh: Yeah, I think I can get it done if I can. I mean, if you're filming today, yeah, um, can I go home early? And work on it.

Tommy: Yeah, why not? So yeah, I want, I want— Trev, you're at, you're going to be out of pocket.

Josh: Yeah, so I think, um, okay, but because Trev and I were just talking about, uh, getting motion graphics done, and I would hate for him— I, part of me wants him to put the $500 towards these motion graphics. Look, but I think we can open it up further. But if you want a handwritten book, This Is Marketing, send us a bid. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

Tommy: Trev's was the highest, was the $500, and so there was lower.

Josh: Yeah. And I mean, once it's done, I'd feel more comfortable talking about it once it's done. Okay, so on Thursday, can we— wait, what's, what's— so Fat Fridays, when we have Gemma in, is that Friday the 1st? Is that okay for me to show it on Feb 1st?

Tommy: Well, I think so because 31st, the cutoff is 11:59:59.

Josh: Yeah, great. I'll take a photo on Instagram of the finished book on Thursday.

Tommy: I'm looking forward to seeing just its thickness and how it comes across. Like, how it—

Josh: it's going to look epic.

Tommy: I mean, the thing is, I also don't want— like, there was a caveat with Trev's bid, and that was to also put in a personal story, which I never shared on this podcast, but we alluded to it. So if it doesn't happen, I— yeah, we'll support you either way. We got an email from Basil.

Josh: Oh, I've just put the music on. That's, uh, that's That means we've got an email. Yeah, no, email from Basil.

Tommy: And what's Basil saying?

Josh: Oh, he was saying, fellas, fellas, fellas. Yeah, basically he's been fucking listening. He found us through Matt D'Avella and Ground Up. He is in Collingwood. He was, when we were doing the Fat Fridays, he was literally looking outside and was seeing Eazy's Burgers.

Tommy: Yeah, so hang on, he works right—

Josh: yeah, so he must work right now. I didn't want to give away too many details just in case he didn't know.

Tommy: He knows a lot about us.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So he's probably seen us walk past.

Josh: So Basil, mate, thanks for watching.

Tommy: And if you see us in the street, approach. Just know Josh isn't carrying.

Josh: Well, not now anyway. Not until the order goes through.

Tommy: Josh could be carrying.

Josh: But if there is, approach with caution. There's a few things like knives, camping, all of these things I'd like to get into.

Tommy: Yeah, well, we've had the offer from Robbie Ward. Yeah, Robbie Ward taking the Gronks camping.

Josh: Okay, perfect.

Tommy: Gronks go camping.

Josh: Maybe we could actually, could we film it and make it a thing?

Tommy: That would be funny.

Josh: Okay, can we do that maybe February?

Tommy: Yeah, it's still good weather.

Josh: Okay, too hot maybe. The Daily Talk Show.

Tommy: Oh, we're gonna read Basil's email?

Josh: Yeah, well, I sort of did.

Tommy: Oh, that he's just— he's been listening through. Yeah, okay, Collingwood. Yeah, did he say something about a sauna? Is that what you were saying?

Josh: Yeah, he said, uh, believe my surprise when I was sitting in the sauna in Collingwood listening to The Ground Up Show.

Tommy: Interesting.

Josh: Do you think he actually— does he mean Wet On Wellington?

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: I mean, if he heard the other day's episode with Christian Howell, It's all connecting now. Well, that is connecting, or it's just you're in a sauna because it was fucking hot. That's what I took out of it. Is that in the sauna in Collingwood? Because it's fucking hot here.

Tommy: Got it. Yeah, we, we made that. One last thing. Yeah, um, I think I fucked up something yesterday, so I'm making an apology.

Josh: Oh great, look down the barrel of the camera when you do it.

Tommy: No, I think I said something along the lines of the public holiday we've seen in our lifetime that if it falls on the weekend that we get the holiday on the Monday, which I fucked up. We've always just watching the monitor, you didn't look down the barrel. I've always got that.

Josh: What do you mean?

Tommy: So if you were listening yesterday, so yes, yesterday I said something around, oh, the public holiday if it falls—

Josh: Who called you out?

Tommy: No, my mum did.

Josh: No one, mum.

Tommy: No one, mum. Yeah, okay, she's called me out.

Josh: And so she said, what's the— what do you always happen?

Tommy: But then I— then we're— this is a hard thing about doing so many shows, you get shit wrong.

Josh: It's like meditation. Did your mum say that meditation used to be a big thing or she didn't comment on that?

Tommy: It's never been bigger. Okay, I stand by that.

Josh: All right, wait for the apology tomorrow.

Tommy: But I apologize.

Josh: If you do want to send us an email, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. It's really hot today.

Tommy: It is getting hot again.

Josh: I'm feeling a little bit sore. I think we've both got a bit of a virus, so we probably should, uh, record, make the, uh, Mum in the Middle or the Break Glass episode.

Tommy: Side.

Josh: Maybe we should do that, um, in the next week or so.

Tommy: We should go get our mums. Yeah, I want—

Josh: Mum won't drive into the city.

Tommy: She won't.

Josh: I tell her like, this is barely the city, you just go on the freeway and get off.

Tommy: Yeah, true.

Josh: I'd have to pick her up at Doncaster. Maybe we'll go to you, Lynn.

Tommy: We'll go to you.

Josh: All right, let's do that. It's a daily talk show. Have a good one, guys. See you guys.