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Episode 26328:59

Gronk to Great

On today's episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss: - Gronk behaviour - Mr 97's GoPro sale fail - Josh's new segment, 20 pages in - An Amazon eBook scam - Future 75 year old Josh - Telling off other parents' kids - Being a paperback guy

Show Notes

Gronk behaviour

Mr 97's GoPro sale fail

Josh's new segment, 20 Pages In

An Amazon eBook scam

Future 75 year old Josh

Telling off other people's kids

Being a paperback guy

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At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –The hosts define 'gronk' as inconsiderate or thoughtless behaviour, distinct from being a 'bogan' (class-coded) — gronk behaviour can happen at any socioeconomic level.
  • –Josh introduces a new recurring segment called '20 Pages In' where he reads highlighted passages from whatever book he's currently reading, starting with Marc Maron's 'Attempting Normal'.
  • –The duo discuss book-reading habits, including struggling to finish non-narrative books, the pros/cons of hardcover vs paperback, and the risk of leaving paperbacks in the sun (which happened to a book Josh lent Tommy).
  • –They note Australia lacks US-style 'fair use' copyright laws, limiting how much of other creators' content (like book covers or video clips) they can legally reuse.
  • –The episode ends with quick listener/community business: a keyring giveaway promise to community member Russ Keys and a reminder to subscribe on YouTube and email the show.

Questions this episode answers

What does 'gronk' mean on The Daily Talk Show?

The hosts use 'gronk' to describe someone acting like an idiot or fool, particularly through thoughtless or inconsiderate behaviour — distinct from being a 'bogan,' since gronk behaviour can occur across any social class.

What is the '20 Pages In' segment introduced in this episode?

It's a new segment Josh starts where he reads out highlighted lines from a book he's currently reading — in this episode, Marc Maron's 'Attempting Normal' — sharing bits he found funny, relatable, or interesting.

Does Australia have fair use laws like the US for using copyrighted content?

No — Josh and Tommy note that Australia does not have fair use laws like the US does, which limits their ability to legally reuse clips or content the way creators like Colin and Samir can in America.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

0:04

Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show episode 263.

0:08

Tommy: I was almost about to do the blowing thing again with my mouth from yesterday's episode. God, it's easy to sound smutty. The blowing of the celebration whistles.

0:19

Josh: I'm Josh and this is Tommy.

0:21

Tommy: Yeah, my name is Tommy and this is my new tee.

0:24

Josh: It says don't be a gronk. Can I just say the first bit of gronk behavior?

0:28

Tommy: What?

0:29

Josh: We've got a meeting with the accountant at 11 o'clock. It's 10:33. Our show goes for half an hour. Yes. If we just do the time that we're meant to be doing on the show, we're gonna be late.

0:44

Tommy: We are gonna be late. But I just realised that, so we've talked about gronks before and the word gronk and what it means. Basically it's like an idiot or a fool. And Quad Lock, I forgot his name. Robbie. Robbie emailed us and said, "I'll take you gronks camping," which I was like, am I offended that he's called us a gronks? But then I'm like, this t-shirt is almost the memento mori coin for me because I think we're all gronks at some point.

1:11

Josh: Like, you getting it was slight gronk behaviour timing-wise.

1:15

Tommy: Timing-wise, definitely a gronk move. So maybe it's like I wear this to remind myself not to be a gronk.

1:20

Josh: But you're normally very good. The one thing that Tommy is good at is timing, not being a gronk. But I think that normally you are very adamant when it comes to you gotta arrive at a certain time.

1:31

Tommy: Yeah, I stuffed up. So this is a gronk move. I think the, for me, let's just do a few examples of gronk behaviour so you can either identify yourself as a gronk and maybe you can get one of these. Gronk behaviour is someone who doesn't consider someone else's time. When they're doing something, which is me being a gronk. Another gronk behaviour which I've highlighted, and upon reflection, it's truly gronk behaviour that I demonstrate, taking, you know, like nuts and shit from the supermarket that isn't having paid for.

2:05

Josh: So what's the difference between being a gronk and being a bogan?

2:10

Tommy: Well, you don't have to have a mullet to be a gronk. You can be a gronk rich person that is far from a bogan. You could be upper echelon.

2:19

Josh: Someone with a BMW who parks in 2 car spots so their car doesn't get scratched is a fucking gronk.

2:24

Tommy: That's a fucking gronk.

2:25

Josh: Yeah.

2:25

Tommy: That's wrong. What's another gronk move that I do?

2:30

Josh: There's a few gronk moves.

2:32

Tommy: King Gronk?

2:33

Josh: I don't know, like just anytime it's just where you think the person will be, anytime where there's a social interaction where you're okay doing it. A gronk move might've been Bree, you and I at Starbucks in LA. Bree and I got a protein frappe, decided it tasted like absolute shit. It did. And Bree and I said, well, it tastes like crap, that's annoying, I'm not gonna have it. And you said, I'll just go up and exchange it. So you went up and said, hey guys, this tastes like shit. And they made us new ones. You were being a gronk.

3:04

Tommy: See, I think in Australia it could be a gronk move, but in the US, They're all about service and they will move heaven and earth for you. And so at Starbucks, which is, you know, big business, I'm defending my so-called allegation of gronk behavior. But no, I definitely see how that can translate as gronk. But I tell you what, you're pretty happy with that caramel frap that I got you.

3:25

Josh: Yeah, it was the whipped cream. What's my gronk? 'Cause I think that I, like one of the things that I'm discovering about myself is I put myself on a pedestal. A lot, which can be a bit of a gronk move. Like I think that I'm always calling you out on gronk behavior, which sometimes you could be questionable. It's just a, it's not necessarily gronk.

3:46

Tommy: I got one, I got one. Amy and I were, we were training at the gym and Amy was with Bodhi and we were walking. You met us for a coffee.

3:54

Josh: Yes, yes.

3:55

Tommy: We walked across the road and I'm like, there was a gap in traffic. I'm like, oh, look at that car, that's Josh. And then I was waving and you're driving, you're looking towards us, you didn't even see us. Like you're actually, he's like looking at us. So there was no like, you're looking off to the left or right. You literally just didn't even acknowledge the people that were in front of you. It's like Gronkh behaviour when your mate's trying to just wave in front of you in the car.

4:22

Josh: Gronkh behaviour is jaywalking though. So you've managed to find something that is meant to be Gronkh-like behaviour for me. And it turns out that you're being the fucking Gronkh behavior, not cleaning the skitties in the toilet.

4:34

Tommy: That's massive Gronkh behavior.

4:36

Josh: It's conspiracy, Jimmy. Is he, is he being, is he conspiracy?

4:39

Tommy: We don't know. I mean, we don't know who does it here at the business, but there's someone in the men's toilets that is just performing a massive Gronkh behavior. Massive Gronkh behavior.

4:49

Josh: I'm guessing like Arj Barker, an American. Yeah, he's from California.

4:53

Tommy: But he spent most of his time here doing standup.

4:56

Josh: But he has a whole thing around pissing the shit off as a public service. And I do that like every fucking morning. I'm in there full stream at this piece of shit that just—

5:06

Tommy: I think what we need to do is remove, like that's enabling gronk behavior.

5:10

Josh: So we need to let it cake off.

5:12

Tommy: We need to let it get so bad that the person that does it doesn't even want to do it anymore. But I get it. There's a fine line between—

5:20

Josh: It's gonna get real fucking disgusting. That's the problem.

5:22

Tommy: A rule breaker. And a gronk, because I think that you can be a rule breaker and not a gronk, a boundary pusher and not a gronk. So, you know, I don't know, maybe—

5:32

Josh: What's— is there any gronk behaviour on social media? Uh, there's got to be.

5:38

Tommy: I think trolling is gronk behavior. Yeah, you're a piece of shit, don't troll somebody. Um, yeah, definitely, there's— yeah, there's a bunch. I mean, we could go for days on the gronk modes, but I guess this is To remind myself not to be Gronkh.

5:51

Josh: Brands stealing like me— like the radio industry in 2012 when they were all posting memes as a way of building audience and Gronkh behavior.

6:00

Tommy: I love how we can blame it on the radio station, but we were the perpetrators of that. Did you ever steal like—

6:07

Josh: no, I was—

6:07

Tommy: take a meme, post it?

6:09

Josh: That was almost like the— what's it called? The memorandum? What's the—

6:15

Tommy: That was the memo, do this.

6:16

Josh: No, it's not the memo. Bray, what's that thing called? The memorandum. It was my MO. Yeah, but what does that say? Is it your job?

6:24

Tommy: Like, are you saying it's just what you do?

6:26

Josh: Yeah, that was what I do. But what is called, what is the MO? I feel like we should know.

6:30

Tommy: The MO.

6:31

Josh: The MO, I'm just writing in. Is it Dutch pop band? No, the MO. What's your MO?

6:37

Tommy: Yeah, what's your MO? Maybe the modus operandi.

6:41

Josh: Yes but that I don't know— I feel like when you said it you sort of half—

6:45

Tommy: I said m-m-memorandum? We're butchering these words!

6:50

Josh: Yeah what's your MO?

6:51

Tommy: What's your MO?

6:52

Josh: Modus operandi? Often shortened to MO so there you go.

6:57

Tommy: And what does it actually mean?

7:01

Josh: One thing at a time: modus operandi often short-shortened to MO is someone's habits of working particularly on the context of business or criminal investigations. Fuck, I read like— that was funny. Kathleen said her highlight, yeah, do you see, is me reading out. You read it, me singing, but you're reading like just in general. Was she just referring to you?

7:25

Tommy: I mean, reading, well, I mean, there's a difference between having a problem stemming from childhood where I had to get reading lessons, Kathleen, and just being drunk. I need Mr. 97, take your headphones off. You're allowed to not monitor the audio for a moment and I want you to come around here into the middle. This is the first time revealing Mr. 97.

7:46

Josh: Yeah, this is, uh, this is okay. We need to give him—

7:49

Tommy: I need you— no, no, no, this is kind of throwing you under the bus, but if you were to think about something that's happened in the last week that is severe gronk behavior, tell us. Yeah, accidentally, uh, selling the— I was selling some of Tommy's equipment and accidentally threw some of my stuff in there.

8:08

Josh: Well, so you were— so, so you had a, you had a list of, uh, gronk Bad behaviour would be not using the mic close enough. Make sure you're nice and close. So you were giving a box of GoPro stuff. Yep. And then you give it to them and then what happened? You, they, like, because they caught you in a fucking surprise anyway.

8:27

Tommy: Yeah, I forgot that they were coming.

8:29

Josh: Big day. And they're from like Gumtree or something, was it?

8:33

Tommy: Yeah, Facebook Marketplace. I mean, he's not revealing the true storeys because what he did was he found that one of the brackets the GoPros that we were giving him to sell, actually the part was perfect for his Hero 4. So what he did was took that off, put it onto his Hero 4, but just put that into the case again, into the selling box. And then so the guy's like, yeah, where's my box? Gives it to him. Then he realises his Hero 4, which all the other GoPros were pieces of shit, old, and he's given away his new Hero 4.

9:04

Josh: So yeah, gronk pa, are you gonna get it back? Yeah, hopefully.

9:08

Tommy: Hopefully, yeah.

9:09

Josh: This fucking, this microphone thing is giving me complete anxiety. Are we gonna have a third? Talking about the video, what's your thoughts on it so far? We're, yeah, what, a few episodes in? This is the second official. We had a little motion graphic at the start.

9:21

Tommy: I think, I mean, I've just done this. I've crossed my legs so I'm more comfortable already. Or I'm closing off my energy, but tell us what you, what you think.

9:30

Josh: Has it changed? Bree reckons that there could have been some change in people's perception on what we're like based on the video?

9:38

Tommy: From a look? I guess that happens.

9:40

Josh: Not from the look, but just like, yeah, from how we like—

9:42

Tommy: Well, it's revealing. They could have thought we were from Outback Australia.

9:46

Josh: Well, we are. We need to fucking get that— The thing is we sent Marty, our motion graphics guy, this image of the background to use. And so somehow fucking Lozcam has still managed to get that through.

9:59

Tommy: Shout out to Lozcam. Look, we'll get rid of them if Marty can do what he did at the start. I'm pretty sure he could probably rub that out. Out at some point. But no, the difference in the video stuff is, um, I think it sort of triggers you to bring— you, me and you— triggers this different approach in energy, which is kind of good. Jimmy said to me— Conspiracy Jimmy said to me yesterday, mate, strong energy yesterday.

10:23

Josh: Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, the, um, the book I have in front of me—

10:28

Tommy: what is this?

10:29

Josh: Uh, so it's, uh, Mark Maron's book 'Attempting Normal.' He looks like Pablo Escobar in that. It's fucking slight Pablo. It's a cool graphic. But anyway, it got me thinking, you know, I've started to become a book guy, a real book— I used to buy books, now I read them. Used to be a big—

10:46

Tommy: How many you go through? Have you got a number?

10:49

Josh: How many through so far this year? I'm on my third.

10:53

Tommy: See, that's fucking good. I always like call bullshit on people online that I hear them saying like, I read 150 books in a year. How do you book them out? Just say it to myself.

11:03

Josh: Bullshit. Impossible.

11:04

Tommy: Trolling them online would be a gronk move. So I just say, oh fuck, because then I go, how do you do it?

11:10

Josh: How are they doing it? I don't have a kid.

11:13

Tommy: How are they doing it?

11:14

Josh: Maybe. Maybe they don't have kids.

11:16

Tommy: Yeah, I did that too. I was looking into like, there's an app that puts every word at the centre of your, like, centre of your vision. It's like boom boom boom boom.

11:25

Josh: It's confusing, bro. Epilepsy or whatever.

11:27

Tommy: Or you track down one side of the page, like you track the left-hand side and you just use your periphery, peripheral to read. Another thing with the video, a heightened chance to sort of impact the smashdown on your partner, like by looking at the camera. It's great. It's good. It's another—

11:48

Josh: Well, I was like, 97 laughed a lot when you said periphery. But it's a good one.

11:52

Tommy: It's another part of the arsenal when you got the camera to just like, yeah.

11:56

Josh: So anyway, about the book.

11:58

Tommy: Yes.

11:58

Josh: I decided, what I'm very good at is starting books. So I've actually, there's been like 4 or 5 that I've actually started, but I've decided they're not worth continuing.

12:10

Tommy: Based on just, they haven't grabbed you? They haven't?

12:13

Josh: Also, the, do I make myself clear? I'm like 90% through and then I'm like, I sort of, as Seth Godin says, I got the joke. And so if Seth Godin can say it.

12:25

Tommy: Does he say it in terms of the books he's reading?

12:27

Josh: Well, the thing is it's like, it literally is, it's not like a narrative, it's all examples that this guy's using. Anyway, so I wanna start a new segment. It's fucking insane terrain. It's Melbourne, we're in Melbourne if you're wondering, in Collingwood and it's 10:45 AM accountant in 15 minutes. Thanks for the memo. So what we've, well, it is my, what is it?

12:51

Tommy: Modus operandi.

12:52

Josh: Thank you. It's— I fucked it up. I ended up just saying like the Moe Dutch pop band. Anyway, this book.

13:00

Tommy: Yes.

13:00

Josh: I'm gonna start a new segment. It's called 20 Pages In.

13:04

Tommy: And so this is a— it's almost like a book review within the first 20 pages of the book.

13:09

Josh: It's because I'm excited. I'm like fucking pumped about it. I want this to be part of my identity. I'm a reading guy. Yeah. But I just wanna be able to cement the fact that I'm enjoying it. And now that I'm not on social media, I can't do an Insta storey when I've read one chapter and saying, "Best book ever," or "Love this book," or "Haha, Marin." Is it slightly gronk behavior? No, it's intellectually gronk.

13:34

Tommy: It's intellectually gronk, but I give it to you. I mean—

13:36

Josh: But because I'm not an intellectual, it probably just makes it gronk. Me trying to be an intellectual, gronk.

13:40

Tommy: No, I mean, here's the reality is, Most people watching probably go, "Fuck, I get it now. I don't need to read that book.

13:47

Josh: Josh has kind of given me the cliff notes." Well, I just underlined bits that made me laugh or that I could relate to.

13:56

Tommy: So in a review of a book, are you, say 20 pages, is there a structure to this delivery? Like, are you just winging it?

14:05

Josh: We're winging it for now. We'll see what this, but this is, eventually Marty will be creating creating an animation and it'll be one of the biggest. We'll have a live crowd one day and I'll say, "It's time for," and everyone will yell, "20 pages in!" And it'll be big.

14:20

Tommy: But we're still thinking through the idea.

14:22

Josh: But that's in 2028. Anyway, so I thought, I only just thought about this idea 'cause I had the book with me. So what I'll do is I'll read some of the top highlights that I've underlined.

14:36

Tommy: I mean, Kathleen's spoken, she loves my reading. Kathleen, if you're, If you want me to be a part of the 20 pages and me read him out, just let me know.

14:44

Josh: Yeah, spot on. All right, so we, um, good book. Little mole in yours.

14:48

Tommy: It's hard when you, like, when I'm the shit reader, because it's a lot. I feel the pressure for you, bro.

14:53

Josh: It's like, what do you mean being a good reader?

14:55

Tommy: No, a good reader. Like, if I've taken the shit reader, the shit reader award. Yeah, hard.

15:02

Josh: I've got other awards. I've got like the, what do people know of me? Infected toenail.

15:08

Tommy: Yeah, sweet personal stuff. Lots of stuff that happens behind closed doors that then comes out here. Yeah, I'm just saying, I feel— I remember it'd be like the nightmare of being a kid going up to the front of the classroom and fucking having to stand there.

15:21

Josh: I loved that. I didn't love reading, but I loved doing debates or whatever.

15:25

Tommy: Yeah, but reading out— so like when you couldn't read—

15:27

Josh: debating, debating for me was like the original trolling. Like coming up with a rebuttal. Yeah, because I'd just be like Like the stupidity of the idea.

15:39

Tommy: All right, I think we'll have a debate at some point as well.

15:41

Josh: I remember we did a debate on should people over 75 have to go again for their license, get their car licence renewed. I just remember that.

15:53

Tommy: What side were you on? Just, I mean, you don't have to go into the debate, but— I was a get rid of the, like they have to go up for a licence again.

16:02

Josh: And so I could, you know, you could join their motive. Heartstrings and stuff. Anyway, so some of the things that I highlighted. Okay. So this is stuff that I can relate to, thought was funny, or things that we might be interested in. No, like I have not used the filter at all of the show. I've brought this today, slight Gronkh move.

16:19

Tommy: But this is just, I think I will just, I mean, it's a Gronkh-heavy show, but there is like a Gronkh move could end up in a really great thing. Like this could be a great segment. Well, it's like the Gronkh move to bring something half-baked. But then could be really great. Could you convert Gronk to like great?

16:36

Josh: Well, your Gronk to Great should be your fucking book. Good to Great or whatever, like fucking great. Like make Australia Gronk again. It's an ebook. Definitely a fucking ebook. Oh, Gronk behaviour very quickly. There's this fucker on Amazon that is doing summaries of books. So he's taking like, "You Can't Hurt Me," which is the book by, I've just gone blank on his name. Breezer? "You Can't Hurt Me" by David Goggins.

17:09

Tommy: Ah yeah, is there a similar, like I've heard the similar thing of "Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck," the Australian Audible, all you can get is people doing a review on the book. You can't, Jules Lund bought it. Gronk move, Jules.

17:23

Josh: But the thing is that, look at this. So this is Gronk behavior. So if you have a look, oh, it's been taken down.

17:32

Tommy: Yeah, that's right.

17:33

Josh: So the thing is that it was fucking, this gronk had created, basically taken the COVID zoomed in on it and then put summary and was selling it for like $7 on Kindle and had this for like 50 books. And the reviews are like, this is 3 pages of rubbish where he's just like selling shit anyway. Gronk. Absolute Gronk move. Some of the things that I can definitely relate to now, what I've highlighted, why can't I stop sweating is what he said, and I underlined that.

18:03

Tommy: So he's— Marc Maron is a sweater.

18:05

Josh: Marc Maron is a sweater.

18:05

Tommy: I'm like, Marc Maron's got one— one of the original pioneers of podcasting. Had Obama on his show. Obama came to his house in his garage. Crazy.

18:15

Josh: I've always been happiest around characters.

18:18

Tommy: Yeah, that's a good one.

18:19

Josh: I think that was good. But there's one that I really want to get, and the Gronkh move is not having any sort of plan.

18:25

Tommy: I mean, yeah, that's the half-baked idea. But one of the— I just, I will sort of give you an idea. You know those things, the little plastic notes that smart people seem to have? Just like, I want to get back to that piece of information.

18:36

Josh: I want to get— I'm sure my old girlfriend Shruti used to— she loved it. As well as being in the sticker club, she loved the stationery and she had that in all of her textbooks.

18:47

Tommy: Shout out to Shruti.

18:48

Josh: Shout out to Shruti. Our whiteboard needs magnets. Yeah, okay, so that's another thing we need to get.

18:55

Tommy: We're doing a shopping list on the show.

18:58

Josh: Is someone writing it down? All right, so I'm gonna read two more.

19:02

Tommy: Two more, yep.

19:06

Josh: We all have the right to cherry-pick the advice given us I give it— so this is—

19:13

Tommy: it's pressure, dude. I think you're a great— no, yeah, I could, but it could probably be worse.

19:18

Josh: This has actually almost worked out that there's a fault in the language. We all have the right to cherry-pick the advice given us in order to do exactly what we wanted to do in the first place.

19:30

Tommy: So is it to serve our own narrative?

19:33

Josh: Yeah, well, no, every bit of advice— like, we all cherry-pick advice to be like, oh yeah, like that resonates with me, I'm gonna take it. So it's just about—

19:40

Tommy: And the hard thing with that is that what resonates feels like the piece of information that you needed. So what resonates isn't necessarily what you need. And so that's a hard one. 'Cause I'm the same, I fucking love this, this is for me right now.

19:56

Josh: This is my favourite one because if anyone's followed early on back when I was in Queensland doing the show remotely, Got really into summer fruits. It was probably 10 months ago now. Yeah, it was during the Commonwealth Games. Summer fruits, delicious fruit salads.

20:10

Tommy: You were on the Gold Coast, you'd hope that the Gold Coast is where the good fruit is.

20:15

Josh: Acai bowls.

20:16

Tommy: Yeah, um, that's frozen fruit. Yeah, but you got— I remember you telling me about this fruit salad and you told everyone. Yeah, about this nice fruit salad.

20:23

Josh: Okay, and then, then I moved on. Do you remember, like, in recent weeks?

20:27

Tommy: Over it, too expensive.

20:29

Josh: Nectarines.

20:30

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

20:30

Josh: I got like a lovely juicy nectarine, it's really lovely. Anyway, so.

20:35

Tommy: Yeah, sorry, okay, let's get this.

20:36

Josh: This fucking resonated with me, right? That's what he said. I'll go, my grandfather didn't talk much. This is literally, this is what I'm gonna be when I'm a fucking old fuck, right? Fucking old fuck. I was gonna say old cunt, I filtered myself and then said it anyway. All right. My grandfather didn't talk much. And most of my memories of him involved him sitting quietly on the couch in his boxers with a bowl of summer fruit, eating nectarines with his large distended testicles hanging out of his shorts.

21:10

Tommy: All right, Gramps, get those nuts back up there.

21:12

Josh: Distended, that's a good word. Do you know what distended means?

21:15

Tommy: I could imagine it's just protruding, hanging down.

21:17

Josh: Distended? Is it like extended? How's it different?

21:20

Tommy: This is—

21:20

Josh: No, not what I thought. Swollen due to pressure from inside. Bloated, like he's bloated balls.

21:27

Tommy: He's got varicose veins of the balls.

21:29

Josh: I would have liked bloated balls because I would have enjoyed it.

21:32

Tommy: Oh mate, Mr. 97, why are you laughing so much at that? Have you got that? We've all got that, don't we?

21:36

Josh: The final one, final one of the 20 words, sorry, 20 pages in the new segment.

21:42

Tommy: Yeah, final one.

21:43

Josh: I love this. He says, is this counted as like some sort of copyright infringement? I'm only picking bits. Yeah, we don't—

21:49

Tommy: don't pick on us, Mark Maron, you're a big podcaster.

21:52

Josh: Interesting thing about, uh, we don't have fair use laws in Australia. In the US they have fair use, so you can go hard. I can— Colin and Samir can put a bunch of clips up and show, you know, like pushing to different stuff. We can't do that because legally—

22:06

Tommy: because Matt D'Avella did it in a video recently with Tony Robbins.

22:09

Josh: Yeah, we could—

22:10

Tommy: hands slapping together. We're not allowed to.

22:12

Josh: Would be more trouble. And so what's happening—

22:14

Tommy: a lot of it—

22:15

Josh: what's happening within the with all the European laws and shit and the copyright stuff, that looks like it's gonna start to affect the US so that they won't be able to do it.

22:25

Tommy: So we're all in trouble.

22:27

Josh: So this is the final one. He says, "I'm not a cat guy. I'm a my cat guy. I don't care about your cats." But he loves his own cat. Yeah.

22:38

Tommy: It's like— It's an obscure thought.

22:39

Josh: It's like, I'm not a dog person, but when I'm dog sitting, I love those dogs, but all the other dogs can fuck off.

22:47

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, there is something about a baby or a pet that's not your own. It's annoying. Yeah, like, it's cute. Yeah, great. How does that scratches you? Fuck off. And I'm talking about a child. If a cat bites you—

23:02

Josh: Have you ever told off a friend's kid?

23:06

Tommy: I've been very close recently.

23:08

Josh: You're fucking touching your balls all the time.

23:11

Tommy: I put my hand, I put my hand in there like this. I'll show you.

23:13

Josh: Hang on. No, don't.

23:14

Tommy: I just do that, like it's, it's like it's warm. I don't know, it's a habit. It's better than putting it like literally holding my—

23:20

Josh: Yeah, but I don't think— because that's the thing, you put your hands down your pants and when I call you out on it, you're like, look, it's above the undies.

23:27

Tommy: Yes, so like this, just like that. There's no reason you can't. I'm pushing back on you.

23:32

Josh: We should thumbnail that one anyway. That's gonna be the thumbnail.

23:36

Tommy: Telling off, I think my view has changed on it recently because with Bodhi, he's very pushy.

23:44

Josh: I wonder where he got that from. Yeah, I know, you're fucking raising a Gronkh.

23:50

Tommy: Hopefully I haven't raised a Gronkh, but he's disagreeable, like he's running his own show a lot of the time, especially around kids his age, his size. Yeah. And so the worry is that around kids, he's going to hit them and stuff. But then I was seeing him around older kids that can speak and that are, you know, superior in their age and abilities, right? And then you see how they treat the other kids. And I've never felt like this, but seeing them like push Bodhi or like, it's, you know, it's very— you slip into protection mode and you're thinking, what would I do here? And I, and I've held back because I'm like, I have told a child to Now you can't, like, can't do that, like clearly hitting somebody or pushing Bodhi over. You can, I think you can say that.

24:36

Josh: But you can't say, "You fucking do that again, I'll rip your fucking head off." But I see the lines here, I'm fucking just, yeah, just looking over the line. Like, what's that, was that a sniff?

24:46

Tommy: Yeah, you get a sniff. We sniff everything.

24:47

Josh: It's true. Actually, that should be part of the 20 pages in.

24:52

Tommy: Yeah, it actually smells quite nice. There's a bit of a, like, fruit.

24:55

Josh: Another bit.

24:56

Tommy: Stone fruit, he's read it.

24:57

Josh: Paper, I'm a paperback guy. Are you, mate? Hardcover? Hardcover I always saw as sort of a superior product. When it actually comes to reading them, which is now what I've been getting into the habit of doing rather than just putting them on the shelf, fucking hard to read hardcovers because it gives you no flex. This is beautiful.

25:15

Tommy: Mr. Mason, Mr. 97.

25:17

Josh: Jesus Christ.

25:18

Tommy: Over there there's a pile of books Josh has brought. There's one that has, it's when you create, Work Shouldn't Be Crazy, the black one.

25:26

Josh: Oh yeah, it's the fucking one at the bottom.

25:28

Tommy: It's the one at the very bottom. Well, he can grab that. I just wanna— So the other day, so you gave that to me, appreciate it, been reading, great book. Similar vibe to the book where it's just kind of like offering up sort of points and points and points, it's not narrative driven. So it can be hard to sort of stick to it. I'm nearly done. I was reading it in the sun. And paperback. So it's a paperback just like this. If Mr. 97 could see it, he would, um, maybe it's not there.

25:58

Josh: Oh, maybe in the freezer. Did I leave that at home?

26:01

Tommy: Maybe it's at home. Anyway, paperback like this. Man, I was in the sun and I left it in the sun because I went inside. Faded? No, not faded. Open and literally the stickiness has like, it looks like the book's 20 years old now.

26:16

Josh: Is that a good thing?

26:16

Tommy: Bad. The page fell out. Like, lucky I'm past that page. I stuffed it in, but lucky I was past that page.

26:22

Josh: That is gronk behavior. You get someone something nice.

26:27

Tommy: I mean, it was a gronk move leaving my book in the sun, but I was never to know. And so just be careful with books in the sun, especially paperbacks. I'm sure that hardcover—

26:36

Josh: The funny thing is, I know that you didn't intentionally do it, but for some weird reason, and maybe this is that sort of the putting myself on a pedestal or whatever. I don't think I would do it. I don't think it could ever happen to me.

26:47

Tommy: I mean, I was lying out on the grass. I'll paint the scenario. At mum and dad's place, there's a nice lawn area. We'd got some rugs out, some cushions. We're all sitting around, lying on the ground, lying on the rug, beautiful sunny day. We're getting a little bit of a, you know, a little UV. And I was like, this is a bit much now. And I just got up to go get a drink and then didn't come back. So that was the situation.

27:10

Josh: It's a low-level gronk. So I mean, We gotta get to the fucking accountant. I wanna say Russ Keys wants to get in on the— he sent us an email. He says sending an email because he's just catching up on the shows and he wants to know if he can secure himself some free shit. He's looking forward to contributing to the show with Fat Fridays in 2019.

27:31

Tommy: Great.

27:31

Josh: Tomorrow we have plans. Big fucking pizza from Domino's.

27:35

Tommy: It's ginormous.

27:36

Josh: 40 inches. Woof woof. Anyway, Russ wants a key ring, which fits in how many did we say?

27:44

Tommy: Yeah, 5.

27:45

Josh: 5.

27:45

Tommy: Mate, he's capped it off. So now we've got, we gotta get these. Gronkh move if we don't come through with that. If you have no idea, let's explain tomorrow what the key ring's all about. Now they've sealed it off, but they are coming.

27:57

Josh: 'Cause that gives us time to fucking work out what the fuck it actually means. It's a Daily Talk Show, everyone. hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you wanna send us an email. But most importantly, subscribe to us on YouTube, which is just youtube.com/thedailytalkshow because we're posting videos there.

28:14

Tommy: Every day.

28:15

Josh: And we're also, we never promote it, we're on Instagram as well. I've re-downloaded Instagram on my phone so I can engage with you guys. Nothing personal, not doing anything for my own brand, but just sort of—

28:26

Tommy: I will defend your quitting of social media to coming back on. That's the union. No, but I'm probably lazy. The fact that if it's left to one person, It's gonna fall through the cracks.

28:36

Josh: It's the equivalent of I'm retired. When people are retired, they're like, oh yeah, I'm retired, but I was an accountant, now I'm a bookkeeper, and I just do one day a week for a jeweler.

28:48

Tommy: Yeah, fair enough. Now we gotta get to our accountant.

28:51

Josh: Yeah, okay, it's a daily talk show. Please do send us the emails 'cause we'd love to hear from you.

28:55

Tommy: See you tomorrow. Bye.

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