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Wait a minute, cross face.

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conversation, sometimes worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy jacket.

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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 257

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is it? Yeah, should you seven and

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7am in Cape Town? Thank you for that. The reason you bring it up is because Bernard sent us an email.

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That was nice of him. This is exactly what I wanted. I remember back in the day when people use Facebook Yeah, when I was on radio and shipping and we would post up something say Where are you? What what's your view right now? And what when they post when he on the toilet now? Like on the farm milking cows like where are you listening from? So it's like a specific moment was

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it really a lot of so for people who don't know Tommy used to work in regional radio? Yeah. Right which is basically a way of saying in the country. Yeah.

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So a couple of hours outside of a major city in so yeah, shit Chevron's in northern town. quite big. We used to call it regional people who live in towns outside of capital cities. They don't see their situation all the time as well as city slickers though. So yeah,

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I would say that was actually something like farmers were a key audience

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understand we had like, Yeah, dude on milk station, like cattle cattle farms milking up at 4am we would be you know, the morning, morning entertainment. And who else was a like shift workers? Would you avoid packets from SPC?

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They like doing canned fruit? is a fruit Hurry up the answer

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there was Yeah. What about would you avoid talking about say almond milk is very in milk is very in Lhasa angels. Would you avoid talking about these milks? To not piss off your listeners? Not at all because that shit. No one was in Seoul. He was the only one people were into. Was it 20 1520 1516

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is a real insurgence of hipster

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hipster milks? Did you work out? Was there anything specific of that? The that you had city vibes that you didn't realize until you came into shepherd and that you like Actually, this is very city boy of me and you slowly winded on

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now there's some cool places that like cool hip progressive people in towns like the cafes, and now like Melbourne cafes,

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it was a prejudice for people like you just a city boy. Yeah.

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Because I they know that you come from to become to become a local in a regional town. Like it was always a joke of like, we're local site now, you know, 20 years. 20 plus years? Who would say no, you're not just local? Yeah. Unless you born there.

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So we got an email from Bernard. Why is it an email that you always were seeking?

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Because he's sent through a photo of where he's listening from? I'm not sure if that's Cradle Mountain, table, Table Mountain. It's in Cape Town, South Africa. So there's that there is Table Mountain. I think it's

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like Casey nice. Dad always does that drone stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

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So he's listening on Spotify with a photo. It's looking up to this big mountain look beautiful. Yeah.

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Also got an email from Josie. Yeah, she's listening to us in Queensland. Yeah,

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we asked yesterday were you listening from and so I hope Josie I cannot pronounce that. I mean, it looks like we were we were up Queensland way Bitcoins. I never heard of it. But yeah, way bitcoins I thank you for listening. And thank you for emailing us. It's nice to know, it is nowhere. So today we're videoing this. something a bit different. We're trying it. So think let's just put this straight up on to read it.

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No, stop committing to

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someone who were done. I'm done with red dots read it finishes yc AWS

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Icos did a comment. Yeah. And said, the key is you need to be consistent.

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Okay.

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Okay. Icos Oh, consistently, not if I can post. Now, I think that that's the actual answer. I think no posting is better, because I don't think we can be consistent. Because I'm not on social media. It was.

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It was at the end of your breakthrough.

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Well, it was wasn't a there's a big breakthrough. There's a big difference between retiring from social media and a fucking breakdown. It wasn't a breakdown.

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Is there a difference between a breakdown right through the

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equivalent of me saying that I broke a record for speed. And you said that I broke down very different now.

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Well, that's the thing. I think it's like, I think the the exodus from social media comes from our righteousness that you've identified in your own behavior. So you've stopped using social media, but towards the end, is ramping up read it. I didn't like that was one thing that you committed to which

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I like, it's easy for me to commit to it's easy if it's the equivalent of I was part of some very extreme religion. Yes, I've left the religion. Yeah. And you're still on it. And you're like, hahaha, you're an idiot. You've got Josh has gone a bit crazy, everyone. But in real life. You're the crazy one,

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or you're the extremist. That's Lyft. Now, what how did I think I'm extreme? Right? Like, I don't think I'm going to get back on you need to I'm just like, I'm just a part of the

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part of the club. I don't stand by. I think the extremist thing would be doubling down. Yeah, yeah.

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We We almost did towards it. You almost wanted to towards the end,

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an extreme move would be me saying I'm starting my own social network. haven't done that. Anyway, how did we even get to that?

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So read it and read it? No, no, it's a good I mean, now you shut it down.

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Both of you shut it down. Well, this is the thing who was in charge of posting, we were going to post every single episode. Mason,

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Mr. 97. Well, we know it to be fair.

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To be fair, you created something than hand bowled a fucking task off to me to do. So it's pretty simple. Yeah, no, but it wasn't like, it's funny, right? I don't know. We're trying to work this out. This is the whole thing of filming this episode. We're trying to work shit out.

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And you only work through that by doing it. So we're having realizations as we are. And so what's the pushback? Because I think that if you'd been posting that every episode to read it,

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I think it's just like, that's like tweeting every episode. I could be tweeting it. Actually I do Twitter. Yeah. So because it's automated. So I could have automated it,

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as I do, say, because I go on the daily talk shows Twitter. Yeah. And I see sometimes you get like, favorites from people. So I automatically

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if in that, so I could we could we could just leave it there. And then I If This Then That every episode, which does it work? I don't know. Like he said it. Is that a productive approach?

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Well, then people could comment it. But the thing, the key is that you're actually there to respond.

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Well, no, you could be there to respond. But the post as I could be, we could be okay. But he's the hard thing. Okay, what happens when one half of the show leave social media, but

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it's more than the current half that's left?

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You know, when you've got two people who are on social media, and you've got a show like this, and one person leaves? What happened? Well, that's very impressive, because you know that

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for what happens, what's the decision? I think that's the hard bit.

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I spoke to you about it, though. It was a clear like, I'm not going to do this sort of thing. So then it became we need to be clear on is this important, or is it not important? and read it just sign it kind of happened? It was on all of a sudden, Lou, on Reddit and you're getting trolled by BK? Yeah.

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So I mean, from the start.

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So I don't know. I mean, is this a discussion to have not on the show? And I think it's, I think this is great. I think everyone's loving it. What's the

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event? Something happened last night?

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But first of all, what are your New Year's resolutions?

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How's it going? Hey, good. training every second day?

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Doing some writing? How, how much writing you doing every morning? Well, I was writing and then you came with your friend yesterday to sit down with me, as I was writing, so I only got actually finished it. I finished that. And then I mean, this is the thing. I'm your battle against me.

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always noticed that it's always made

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battle against goals, things that happen around you. It's like, it's almost like the chips are against us. The odds are against this. And you have to you have to try and win each of these little things. So I will still go time to write today. And then I'll do tomorrow. So it's been good. And then yeah,

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well, I tried not to call it morning pages, because I knew that I couldn't commit to doing it. Morning. And that's the thing. You can be disappointed if you don't actually hit you. Or Bry asked me. She said did you do your writing? Yeah.

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And I hadn't.

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I haven't. The thing is like, what I'm thinking is maybe the idea is if you have five goals, if you can, if you tried five, knowing that three of them, they can end up hitting the cutting cutting room floor. You still better off.

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I think that's a good idea. Maybe?

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What do you think people are I rolling right now? Because I went so gung ho on it.

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Whoa, yeah,

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probably gung ho. I say gang. But then again, I used to always also say, in the wars

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in the walls and the sayings in the wars, and I thought it was because you'd bump into walls.

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So Dang. In English term. So I supposed to write g you n g Yes. Dash HR gung ho. I did say that I wanted to do a word each day. Is it English term with the current meaning of enthusiastic or overzealous? It's good.

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So you were gung ho Yeah. So I think you Yeah, I think it's okay to be gung ho. I think that's motivation at the start and you're very motivated to get through your five goals that you've set out for the start. So yeah,

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it's it's interesting. The other thing too, is I another one it for me is walking an hour a day. And I've been doing that pretty well. Yeah,

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he's the thing that I worry.

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I worry about that. Like I I see. It's like you might who sits out fucking on work. I'm walking Mount Everest and you're like, bro, you're gonna want it. You want to say go for it, bro. Then you like Oh, he's fucked.

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But I used to walk to it

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doesn't matter I used to fucking be training six days a week in the gym lifting heavy heavy weights

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not many really think that there's a difference?

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I think there is who you used to be in who you are now and to get back to that and I'm no longer a walker. No but I so I worry about the hour the amount of time with pages with reading 50 pages that's

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why I can't do the that's why I think training with a think the first thing to be cash is potentially the I need I need to work out how to be efficient with the daily pages. Yeah,

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so we are two weeks. Eight days into the new year iceye's a

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face ID Can we just talk about face ID fucking Tommy trying to get tweets.

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Because I was doing this it took your foot forms. I did that. And then I yes, I done. Az I hide these people were pushing back on iPhone 10s your monsters. It's a great phone. And it's the best phone I've ever had. Anyway, we're nine days in and we're already killing. We're working out what isn't working. So the walking in erudite, all I will say is I mean, we project when we hear other people's goals because you're like, fuck would I do that? Or? And as I Wow, there's a lot of time. Those of you heard not just the walking one is like an hour a day. If you're doing that each day, the training with me every like three times a week. There's another 45 minutes is an hour and 45 reading and 50 minutes is how much

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50 pages.

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Okay, so let's just say be generous be like an hour, an hour. So if you stick to it for an hour is two and a half, two hours and 45 minutes and then morning pages is another 30 minutes, two hours you know fucking edging up to towards four hours with the other ones. But so

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much time you spend on social media,

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not four hours a day hundred percent so what I'm saying is, and I'm not talking you out of them, but if you were to calculate before you went into a goal for whoever you are about the legitimate time plus an eight hour workday,

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what would you call eight 910 past my phone page so you got 12

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hours not including travel to work time so for to

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have a look at my goals and we had to will calling some of them. Nine days in Okay, nine days. I think it's a good time to call. This is why I like starting them early before January so that by the time it's January, I don't

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do that screaming someone screaming Yeah, so you probably can hear it from the strip is there is there is a pole dancing Academy. Right next door to us. Anyway. Yeah.

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So my daily was write a daily page in this book at home. Okay. And then he said two days. Yeah. Plus the weekend. Four days not the end of the world. Okay, you could keep it none of this to be clear will be the end of the world. Yeah.

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Next one Radio 50 pages of a book. Yeah,

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that's a that's that's up there with an hour of walking a day in my mind of like, it's a good that's a solid reading session. Like I fall asleep when I read it night. 10 pages. Dun dun it's hard to keep

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up. I never know what happens to spot.

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I haven't finished by ever.

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The spot is a kids book for

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kids book.

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Walk one hour. Right without stopping. Yeah, this was a contentious issue with Brady because Brady and I went walking. And she we had a blow up on january two I think yet

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so we're nine days in we're killing two days in so

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two days in there was it was conflict. Because Bray said can you slow down and I took that it was a bit of an attack on my goal. I said no, I can't slide him. Yeah, this is the problem. Everyone's trying to tell me to slow down. I can't do my goals. But what I need right now so do which is annoying because one of my sort of intangible not listed goal was to have a great relationship with Ray. So I probably should have just slowed down. Send all Fuck, I forgot about this one. See, because there's a thing at the bottom that says read this above list every day. This is why you need to and this is the first time in nine days. Yeah,

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because we did Yeah, you did this on the second or first?

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No, I did this on the first but the thing is that I the first few days was very easy. Send one email to someone I care about.

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Certainly me,

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so I've sort of been doing it. But that being Yeah, the same people sort of responding back to the people that

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okay, being nice to yourself, what's the learning nowadays in to this approach to setting goals? Because I could look at it and go the learning could be to maybe do some calculation calculations around the the actual time input on your life that goes into work every time

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I've got 130 minutes each way to work maybe so there's the one that I push back on against your issues. Yes. Is the the walking I think the walking is a piece of piece. Yeah,

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I think the but have you considered the exercise stuff? So do need to be we do a heavy weight session Do you need to be walking that day? Is there like because if the goal was every day move, and that would look like so you set parameters around? What the specific so my goal every second day? I cannot not I cannot miss a training session.

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Two days in a row. I reckon that's the reason why people fail. Or it's a it's why they don't necessarily get the results I want is because they don't push circle around it and so it's like a walk every day or drink walk more every day or drink more water or all of these things aren't actually specific enough. So my specific goal around the exercising is

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and I this is a bit different because I have exercised a lot in my life. And I'm I've walked a lot you

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know, I reckon I've probably if you were to average out days Yeah, my life I've spent an hour a day walking. Yeah. And so I used to do on weekends, I would walk half a marathon.

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So outside of that. My you impressed by the caveat. The caveat is on my goal of every second day. Walking is not included. So for me or for you the exercise exercise it's not classed as exercise for me. Yeah. The I have to sweat. I have to break a sweat. I'm sweating now you got lights in front of us. And the cameras in front of so I've ticked it you sweat and I haven't actually move so that's

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hot right is one thing.

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What hot right? what's what's your mind?

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I don't know what you was nice. But what?

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Take away your age equals maximum heart right? So

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I should hit my maximum hot right

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health you could maybe this is a thing within an exercise session. You need to hit your maximum heart rate once.

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Can we can everyone hi the daily talk show.com if people think Tommy is wrong about this,

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but I'm not it's not a bad for anyone else. If you want to walk an hour a day go for it. All I was saying was for me. It's like your mate who's saying he's walking Mount Kilimanjaro and you're like

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fucking sick bro reckon walking in our know what he's got himself in. I think walking an hour a day is easily the

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reason nine days in we have a conversation

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about how you're not walking. one's been able to happen.

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That's kind of so I have no pushback on it. My thinking is factored. That's a lot to cram into when we're doing a heavyweight session when you've got writing a book when you've got all these things.

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I know but I think the war the difference between walking an hour and making sure that you hit a heart rate of 130 I'm

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not saying that you will go What

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can I do and why but I recognize to do with I reckon that solution might know complicated,

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but I you push me into the corner to give you a fucking solution. I never said stop walking. Maybe it's something you could do as well. But what

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I don't know but then so he's asking to add to my

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Okay, I'm not adding I'm not. I'm not fucking telling you to stop. I'm not adding anything. So keep doing it. I don't even know how you painted me into a corner where I'm telling you to write up but I haven't been paying.

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Right so do we want to know my weekly goals?

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When we're done with definitely No, definitely not. So

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I'll tell you about what happened last night. I write one. So,

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last night woken up is fucking annoying. You know when you wake up, you're like, fuck What time is it? Is it 5am had that

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the other day? I thought it was like 4am and breathing. I've been getting up at five. I said to break. What's the time she looked and she said 1130 Yes, like Dude, yeah,

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it was 1130 Exactly. 1130 last night.

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Maybe this has got somebody conspiracy. Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey? Jim Carrey? Yeah. conspiracy. Jimmy has been getting into. He said, he has a T shirt that says 1717 77777 Is it 17? I thought it was

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77777. And he said

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Do you know anything about numerology? And I was like,

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Oh, no, not really. He started explaining it. And then I said, sort of like 1111 He goes,

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how do you know about 1111? conspiracy, Jimmy, he's willing to conspiracies but believes in numerology. Which could, I mean, it's not conspiracy, but he like that's what I love about him. He's got this dip in the spiritual sense. But then also has pushback on so much shit, which I love. Well, the interesting bit though, was

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he had this reaction as if I'd known something that was some sacred acid on know when I look. I know that Jimmy's very excited about it when all he says is, Google it, man. Just Google it. But I was saying, Yeah, I constantly look at the clock and say, 1111

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That happens a lot. I think that's the power of thought. It's like, you attract. It's a coincidence. Yeah.

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It's like when you buy a red car.

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Well, yeah, yeah. Sweet. I mean, it's everywhere. So how many people have said that? It's 1111. Seven. Anyway, it was 1130. So I'm in my bed. And I'm fucking listening. All I hear is this.

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Really? So

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I hope that sound effect came really? Yeah, yeah,

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I think it was like a squeaking sound for either a

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child jumping on a bed or a dude upstairs above us. So directly, like a dude and the woman because there was a man and a woman that live in this house. And they were having special time. But this is there a neighbor that are like, you know, the night but it's the store. It's the 1111 it's the attracting something, you're going to see a bad something bad happen, or you're going to see an annoying behavior because you're looking for annoying behavior. Because they're annoying neighbor. It's like been fact it's like those fuckers like and then you see him doing something like that. You know, it says I tried have time to have

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sick yet, but don't have time to remove the milk carton

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from the been definitely that is one thing that pisses me off.

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So what was your because bring it and I have heard when we're in Europe? Yeah, we heard some full, like craziness coming. And we were just like,

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apartment block leaving, you must stop. And listen, there's a difference, because I've heard them when they drunk and I've heard them when they're not drunk. What does that mean? This volume is an entity 1,000% when I said it, I know light and apartment living. We're right there right above us. It's like in what I find funny. It's probably very mature to think in. I always thought in high rise buildings, the buildings are all the rooms are all the same. You're on a toilet, there's 100 toilet.

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shitty center paid or whatever.

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Anyway, so that was one of the

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ground level,

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I've got no problem, like, do what you want. I can close the window. just settle down. That's light is because the window is open. That's why I could hear my window is open. They don't have double glazed because I used to live in their apartment. And so it was I was listening as I can then it sort of all stopped. But this is the annoying bit because I've been thinking about saying something to them and not about the sixth thing. It was the classic finished. There was no real climax, it sounded like it just fucking

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she was just sound like she was disappointed. It was just like,

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and there was a lover. And then I just get this huge waft of smoke. He would have been at just

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this fucking proud of himself, just punching a diary on the balcony. He's a thing. He has been. They have been, I don't know which one of these. He'll show whatever. They've been smoking. And it's just for some reason, our house and our windows and our apartment have been like a suction. It's like he's on the balcony, which was on the corner of the building or you're heavy breathing for getting so upset with an old

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man. It's like me woke up. She She thought is that smoke?

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So did she go so she woke up after the things?

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Well, I woke up and then I was like, Can you hear that?

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You hear that?

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Did you? Is there any arousal from you? The idea of other people having sex? I mean, I yeah, it sort of puts the pressure on a little bit. I know that. I can say that potentially.

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What better time than you've ever been you like fact, he's performing? She's enjoying. And that sounds nothing like us. There is a slight comparison. I will admit that it's like,

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so do you. So there was a I mean,

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be honest, I've majority of people have heard, I've thought to myself, What the fuck is going on in there? It's either I'm full conservative, or they fucking full blown. You know? full blown. Anyway, do because I've now got a child the thing about and I haven't, and I wasn't gonna I don't think I would have said anything prior to a child but but he's window. My son is open. Its open. And so the section goes in. I'm just like, he's the he's the approach that I wanted to get your thoughts on? Can I go up and just say it's not saying stop what you're doing? Stop smoke on the balcony. It's just going Hey, guys, you guys were fucking Yeah, it really came to light after you were fucking because I couldn't go back to sleep after that. You when you smoke on the balcony, it sucks into our apartment, and especially into my sat my baby boy's room. You're gay. Yeah. And so if I just said that, and if they say rk? I see. Yeah. And so rather than saying, fuck is legit fuckers stop this. Yeah. Just saying, Hey, this is what happened. So as last night last night. Yeah, so last night around. Later, we're at about 1141. Wednesday after the 10 minute session. There was some smoke

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10 minutes.

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Do you reckon? It would have been about 10 minutes because I got back to sleep pretty soon. I did. I just looked at my time again. Going back. Stop watching. I didn't. But do you think that's a good tax?

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I reckon I'd probably I'm pretty non confrontational. I probably would move apartments. That's excessive. And I've got a fucking child and sorry, I didn't know I didn't really fully answer that. So the whole the whole thing about the like, when you hear people having sex pressure show

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you Yeah. I mean, that was my that was my answer that you can the curse of comparison. You can be listening going. Yeah, judging yourself judging situation. I but I did think about it.

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What did you and Amy have a Do you guys

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like she was like, she was a slave. But she was a what she but you're still

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like, she's a she's a deep psycho. So but the other time it was outrageous.

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And so what do you remember? What was the conversation you and Amy had? And nothing?

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Not so you just silence?

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Why wasn't why don't why sound like that? Oh, no, but

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you could also be commentating about like, wow, can you hear that? Yeah, yeah, it was outrageous. Cuz I remember when we were in Europe, the it was Where was it? Was it like Germany or whatever? Because we're filming and we got 37 seconds. Yes. We'll have to keep the rest of the six stories for another day.

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I'm not gonna go and knock on the door. You don't think? No? Absolutely. Yeah.

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Have you ever got any theory on the sex stories? Is it Yeah, the whole comparison thing Have you been? Have you gotten to a point where you've had to tell a neighbor guys can you stop having

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sex he stopped doing the thing. There was a guy downstairs that did the same and there was noise like always in here, but now the neighbors were like, Oh my gosh, you hear it? Oh my god.

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