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Josh's Breakdown

On today's episode of The Daily Talk Show, we chat about the emails we've received, we rethink our New Years resolutions and Tommy wakes up to the sound of his neighbours having sex.

Show Notes

The Daily Talk Show — Wednesday January 9 (Ep 257) - Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett

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On today's episode of The Daily Talk Show, we chat about the emails we've received, we rethink our New Years resolutions and Tommy wakes up to the sound of his neighbours having sex.

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At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Josh framed his exit from social media (including stopping posting episodes to Reddit) as a deliberate choice, not a breakdown, comparing it to leaving an extreme religion.
  • –Tommy and Josh discuss nine days into their New Year's resolutions, identifying which goals (writing pages, reading, walking, emailing, training) are realistic and which need culling.
  • –A key goal-setting takeaway raised is to calculate the real time cost of daily goals against an 8-hour workday before committing to them.
  • –Tommy was kept awake by neighbours having loud sex and smoking afterwards, with smoke drifting into his baby son's room, prompting him to consider confronting them directly rather than accusingly.
  • –Tommy worked in regional radio in Shepparton, where farmers and shift workers were a key audience, and recalls asking listeners to share their specific location and moment via Facebook.

Questions this episode answers

Was Josh's departure from social media actually a breakdown?

No — Josh insists in the episode that it was a deliberate retirement from social media (including stepping back from posting to Reddit and Twitter), not a breakdown, comparing it to leaving an extreme religion rather than losing control.

Did Tommy Jackett work in radio before the podcast?

Yes, Tommy worked in regional radio in Shepparton, a northern Victorian town, where key listeners included farmers milking cows at 4am and shift workers at a local fruitery/cannery (SPC).

How did Josh and Tommy approach their New Year's resolutions on the show?

Nine days into the year, they reviewed goals like daily writing, reading 50 pages, walking an hour a day, emailing someone they care about, and training every second day, discussing which to keep and recommending calculating the real time cost of each goal against a working day.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:06

Tommy: Wait a minute! Frostface! The Daily Talk Show.

0:11

Josh: A conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Jackett. It's a Daily Talk Show episode 257.

0:24

Tommy: Is it? Yeah, 57. 7:00 AM in Cape Town.

0:28

Josh: Thank you for that. The reason you bring it up is because Bernard sent us an email.

0:34

Tommy: Yeah, that was nice of him. This is exactly what I wanted. I remember back in the day when people used Facebook, when I was on radio in Shepparton, we would post up something and say, where are you? What's your view right now?

0:47

Josh: And what would they post?

0:49

Tommy: Wanking on the toilet. No, like on the farm, milking cows. Like, where are you listening from? So it was like a specific moment.

0:56

Josh: Was it really a lot of, so for people who don't know Tommy, you used to work in regional radio.

1:03

Tommy: Yeah, regional.

1:04

Josh: Which is basically a way of saying in the country.

1:07

Tommy: Yeah, so a couple of hours outside of a major city. So yeah, Shepparton's a northern town, quite big. We used to call it regional. People who live in towns outside of capital cities, they don't see their, situation all the time as city slickers do. So yeah, I was—

1:25

Josh: But you would see, but that was actually something like farmers were a key audience?

1:30

Tommy: 100%, we had like, yeah, dudes on milk station, like cattle farms milking up at 4:00 AM. We would be, you know, their morning entertainment. And yeah, who else was there? Like shift workers.

1:45

Josh: Would you avoid—

1:46

Tommy: Oh, food packers from SBC.

1:49

Josh: They're like doing canned fruit stuff.

1:50

Tommy: Yeah, canned, there's a fruitery up there and so there was, yeah.

1:53

Josh: What about, would you avoid talking about, say almond milk is very in, oat milk is very in Los Angeles. Would you avoid talking about these milks to not piss off your listeners?

2:06

Tommy: Not at all because that ship no one was in. Soy was the only one people were into. Okay. What was it, 2015, 2015, '16, there's a real insurgence of hipster, of hipster milks.

2:17

Josh: Did you work out, was there anything specific that the, that you had city vibes that you didn't realise until you came into Shepparton that you're like, actually this is very city boy of me and you slowly weaned it off?

2:33

Tommy: Nah, there's some cool places there, like cool hip progressive people in towns. Like the cafes are now like Melbourne cafes.

2:43

Josh: But was there any prejudice where people were like, oh, you're just a city boy?

2:45

Tommy: Well, yeah, because they know that you come from, To become a local in a regional town, like it was always a joke of like, well, we're locals. It's like, no, you're not. 20 years, 20-plus years.

2:58

Josh: Who would say no, you're not?

2:59

Tommy: Just locals.

3:00

Josh: Yeah.

3:00

Tommy: No, you're not. Unless you're born there. No, you're not.

3:02

Josh: So we got an email from Bernard. Why is it an email that you always were seeking?

3:07

Tommy: Oh, because he sent through a photo of where he's listening from. I'm not sure if that's Cradle Mountain, Table Mountain. Table Mountain? It's in Cape Town, South Africa. So there is Table Mountain, I think it's called.

3:20

Josh: It's like Casey Neistat always does that drone stuff, yeah?

3:23

Tommy: Yeah, so he's listening on Spotify with a photo, it's looking up to this big mountain, it looks beautiful.

3:28

Josh: Yeah, also got an email from Josie. She's listening to us in Queensland.

3:34

Tommy: Yeah, we asked yesterday where you're listening from. And so Josie, I cannot pronounce the name, I mean, it looks like "wippy," Weipa, Queensland. Weipa, Queensland, never heard of it, but yeah, Weipa, Queensland. Thank you for listening and thank you for emailing us. It's nice to know.

3:53

Josh: It is.

3:53

Tommy: It's nice to know where we are. So today we're videoing this, something a bit different, we're trying it. So I think let's just put this straight up onto Reddit.

4:05

Josh: No, stop committing to Reddit.

4:06

Tommy: You don't like Reddit?

4:07

Josh: No, fuck Reddit.

4:07

Tommy: You're the one who, we're done with Reddit?

4:09

Josh: I'm done with Reddit.

4:10

Tommy: Start Reddit. Finishes.

4:11

Josh: Now, Icy Oz did a comment and said the key is you need to be consistent.

4:18

Tommy: Okay.

4:19

Josh: Okay, Icy Oz, I'll consistently not fucking post. No, I think that that's the actual answer. I think not posting is better because I don't think we can be consistent because I'm not on social media. You're not posting.

4:31

Tommy: It was at the end of your breakdown.

4:33

Josh: Do you remember? Well, it wasn't a break— there's a big fucking difference.

4:36

Tommy: Breakdown or breakthrough?

4:37

Josh: There's a big difference between retiring from social media and a fucking breakdown. It wasn't a breakdown. Is there a difference between breakdown and a breakthrough. It's the equivalent of me saying that I broke a record for speed and you said that I broke down. Very different. Nah, nah. I was going too fast.

4:53

Tommy: Well, that's the thing. I think it's like, I think the exodus from social media comes from an outrageousness that you've identified in your own behavior. So you've stopped using social media, but towards the end it's ramping up. Reddit, I didn't, like that was one thing that you committed to, which like, It's easy for me to commit to. It's easy if you—

5:14

Josh: It's the equivalent of I was part of some very extreme religion.

5:19

Tommy: Yes.

5:19

Josh: I've left the religion and you're still on it and you're like, "Hahaha, you're an idiot. You've got— Josh has gone a bit crazy, everyone." But in real life, you're the crazy one.

5:31

Tommy: Or you are the extremist that's left now.

5:34

Josh: Wait, how did I actually come off?

5:35

Tommy: Actually, 'cause I don't think I'm extreme, right? Like I don't think I'm going, "Get back on, you need to." I'm just like, "Ah, I'm just a part of the—" Part of the club.

5:42

Josh: I don't stand by it. I think the extremest thing would be doubling down. Yeah, yeah.

5:48

Tommy: Well, we almost did towards the end. You almost wanted to towards the end.

5:51

Josh: An extreme move would be me saying I'm starting my own social network. Yeah, true. Haven't done that. Anyway, how do we even get to that? Yeah, we're shutting down Reddit.

5:59

Tommy: No, no, it's a good— I mean, no, you've shut it down. Well, have you shut it down?

6:03

Josh: Well, this is the thing. Who was in charge of posting? We were going to post every single episode Mason, Mr.

6:12

Tommy: 97. Well, we know, to be fair, to be fair, you created something and then handballed a fucking task off to me to do. So it's pretty low level. Yeah, I know, but it wasn't like— it's funny, I don't know, we're trying to work this out. This is the whole thing of filming this episode. We're trying to work shit out, and you only work shit out by doing it. So we're having realisations as we go.

6:38

Josh: And so what's the pushback? Because I think that if You'd been posting that every episode to Reddit.

6:43

Tommy: Yeah, probably. I think it's just like, that's like tweeting every episode. I could be tweeting it. Actually, I do tweet every episode because it's automated, so I could have automated it because I do see, because I go on the Daily Talk Show's Twitter.

6:55

Josh: Yeah. And I see sometimes you get like favourites from people, so I automatically, if this then that.

7:00

Tommy: So I could, we, I could, we could just leave it there and then I if this then that every episode. Which, does it work? I don't know. Like, is that a productive approach? Well, then people could comment.

7:14

Josh: The thing, the key is that you're actually there to respond.

7:17

Tommy: Well, no, you could be there to respond, but the post is— As in I could be?

7:21

Josh: No, we could be. Okay.

7:23

Tommy: But here's the hard thing. Okay. What happens when one half of the show leaves social media, but you're still more than the current half that's left? You know, when you've got two people who are on social media and you've got a show like this and one person leaves, what happens?

7:39

Josh: Well, that's very passive-aggressive because you know that I deserve it.

7:43

Tommy: But what happens? What's the decision? I think that's the hard bit. I spoke to you about it though.

7:47

Josh: It was a clear, like, I'm not going to do this sort of thing. So then it became, we need to be clear on, is this important or is it not important?

7:56

Tommy: And Reddit just kind of happened. It was all of a sudden we were on Reddit and we're getting trolled by BK. Yeah. So I mean, from the start. So I don't know, I mean, is this a discussion to have not on the show?

8:08

Josh: I think it's, I think this is great. I think everyone's loving it.

8:10

Tommy: What's the, um, I'll tell you about something that happened last night.

8:13

Josh: Well, first of all, what are your New Year's resolutions? How are they going? Yeah, good.

8:21

Tommy: Training every second day, um, doing some writing.

8:26

Josh: How much writing are you doing?

8:28

Tommy: Every morning. Are you sticking to it? Well, I was writing and then you came with your friend yesterday to sit down with me as I was writing. So I only got, actually I finished it. I finished that. And then, I mean, this is the thing. You battle against—

8:42

Josh: Me, it sounds like it's always me. Has anyone noticed that it's always me?

8:46

Tommy: Well, I think you battle against things that happen around you. It's almost like the chips are against us. The odds are against us and you have to try and win each of these little things. So I will, I've still got time to write today and then I'll do it tomorrow. So it's been good. And then, yeah.

9:04

Josh: Well, I tried not to call it morning pages because I knew that I couldn't commit to doing it in the morning.

9:09

Tommy: And that's the thing, you can be disappointed if you don't actually hit your—

9:13

Josh: Well, Bree asked me, she said, "Did you do your writing?" Yeah. And I hadn't. And I haven't. But the thing is like, What I'm thinking is maybe the idea is if you have 5 goals, if you can fucking, if you create 5 knowing that 3 of them are gonna end up hitting the cutting room floor, you're still better off. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Maybe. Or do you think people are eye rolling right now because I went so gung-ho on it?

9:43

Tommy: Gung-ho? Yeah, probably gung-ho. I say gung, but then again, I used to also say in the wars. No, I used to say in the walls and the saying's in the wars. And I thought it was because you'd bump into walls.

9:58

Josh: So gung-ho is an English term. So I spelled it right, G-U-N-G-H-O, gung-ho. I did say that I wanted to do a word each day. Yeah. Is it English term with the current meaning of enthusiastic or overzealous.

10:16

Tommy: That's good. So you were gung-ho. Yeah, so I think you, yeah, I think it's okay to be gung-ho. I think that's motivation at the start. You're very motivated to get through your 5 goals that you've set out for the year to start. So yeah, it is interesting.

10:33

Josh: And the other thing too is like another one for me is walking an hour a day. And I've been doing that pretty well.

10:38

Tommy: Yeah, here's the thing though, I worry. I worry about that. Like, I see it's like your mate who sets out, fucking, I'm walking Mount Everest, and you're like, oh bro, you're gonna have one climb. You want to say, go for it, bro, but then you're like, oh, he's fucked. But I used to walk 2 hours every day. It doesn't matter. I used to fucking be training 6 days a week in the gym lifting heavy, heavy weights. It's not me anymore.

11:05

Josh: Do you really think that there's a difference?

11:07

Tommy: I think there is who you used to be and who you are now and to get back to that—

11:11

Josh: And I'm no longer a walker.

11:12

Tommy: No, but I, so I worry about the hour, the amount of time with pages, with reading 50 pages.

11:19

Josh: Well, that's why I can't do the, that's why I think training with me, I think the first thing to be cut is potentially the podcast. I need to work out how to be efficient with the daily pages.

11:34

Tommy: Yeah, so we are, what are we, 8 days into the new year?

11:37

Josh: Face ID, Face ID, can we just do that? We just talked about Face ID. It's fucking amazing. Tommy trying to get to his fucking phone just then. You'll be able to see the video.

11:44

Tommy: Yeah, because I was doing this.

11:45

Josh: It took you 4 minutes.

11:46

Tommy: Because I did that and then I just look over. Yeah, so done. Easy. I hate these people who are pushing back on iPhone Xs. You're monsters. It's a great phone and it's the best phone I've ever had. Anyway, we're 9 days in and we're already culling. We're working out what isn't working. So the walking an hour a day, all I will say is, I mean, we project when we hear other people's goals, 'cause you're like, fuck, could I do that? Or, and it's like, wow, there's a lot of time. What goals have you heard? No, just the walking one is like an hour a day. If you're doing that each day, the training with me every like 3 times a week, there's another 45 minutes, there's an hour and 45. Reading of 50 minutes is how much? 50 pages, 2 hours. Okay, so let's just say, be generous, be like an hour, let's say an hour. So if you stick to it for an hour, there's 2 hours and 45 minutes, and then Morning Pages is another 30 minutes, 2 hours, you know, fucking edging up towards 4 hours with the other ones. But think about how much time you spend on social media. Not 4 hours a day. 100%. So what I'm saying is, and I'm not talking you out of them, but if you were to calculate before you went into a goal for whoever you are about the legitimate time plus an 8-hour workday. What would you count?

13:10

Josh: 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Mason87, can you pass my phone please?

13:13

Tommy: So you got 12 hours not including travel to work time.

13:18

Josh: So if we were to have a look at my goals and we had to, we're culling some of them. Yeah, so 9 days in. Okay, 9 days. I think it's a good time to cull. This is why I like starting them early before January so that by the time it's January, I don't— Can you hear that screaming? Someone's screaming?

13:36

Tommy: Yeah, you probably can't hear it. From the strippers. There is a pole dancing academy right next door to us.

13:43

Josh: Anyway, yeah. So, daily? So, my daily was write a daily page in this book at home. Okay. I missed 2 days. Yep. Plus the weekend, 4 days. Not the end of the world. Okay. You could keep it going. None of this to be clear will be the end of the world.

13:59

Tommy: Yeah.

13:59

Josh: Next one. Read 50 pages of a book.

14:02

Tommy: Yeah, that's up there with the hour of walking a day in my mind of like, it's a good, that's a solid reading session. Like I fall asleep when I read at night, 10 pages, I'm like, I'm fucking done. I'm done, it's hard to keep, stay stimulated.

14:18

Josh: So you never know what happens to Spot.

14:20

Tommy: I haven't finished Spot ever.

14:24

Josh: Spot is a kid's book for people playing at home.

14:26

Tommy: I only read the kid's book, that's what Tasha's saying.

14:29

Josh: Walk 1 hour straight without stopping. Yeah. This was a contentious issue with Bree because Bree and I went walking and she, we had a blow up on January 2, I think.

14:41

Tommy: Yep, so we're 9 days in, we're culling, 2 days in.

14:44

Josh: So 2 days in there was conflict because Bree said, 'Can you slow down?' And I took that as a bit of an attack on my goal. I said, 'No, I can't slow down. This is the problem. Everyone's trying to tell me to slow down. I can't do my goals, but what I need right now is to do them,' which is annoying because one of my sort of intangible, not listed goal was to have a great relationship with Bree. So I probably should have just slowed down. Send, oh fuck, I forgot about this one. See, 'cause there's a thing at the bottom that says, 'Read this above list every day.' This is why you need to. And this is the first time In 9 days?

15:21

Tommy: Second. Yeah, 'cause we did, yeah, you did this on the second or first?

15:25

Josh: No, I did this on the first, but the thing is that I, the first few days was very easy. Send one email to someone I care about. You gotta start by emailing me. So I've sort of been doing it, but they've been the same people sort of responding back to the people that.

15:39

Tommy: Okay, being nice to yourself, what's the learning 9 days in to this approach to setting goals? 'Cause I could look at it and go, the learning could be to maybe do some calculations. No, well calculations around the actual time input on your life that goes into work, travel time, 20, 30 minutes each way to work maybe. So there's—

16:03

Josh: The one that I push back on against your issues is the walking. I think the walking is a piece of piss.

16:13

Tommy: Yeah, I think that, but have you considered the exercise stuff? So do you need to be, we do a heavyweight session, do you need to be walking that day? Is there like, because if the goal was every day move and that could look like training, walking, that could look like, so you set perimeters around what the specific— So my goal is every second day, I cannot miss a training session 2 days in a row.

16:42

Josh: I reckon that's the reason why people fail or it's why they don't necessarily get the results they want is because they don't put a circle around it and so it's like, oh, walk every day or walk more every day or drink more water or all of these things aren't actually specific enough.

17:03

Tommy: So my specific goal around the exercise thing is, and this is a bit different 'cause I have exercised a lot in my life, and I'm just picking up.

17:11

Josh: I reckon I've probably, if you were to average out days, my life, I've spent an hour a day walking. Yeah, and so I used to do on weekends, I would walk half a marathon on Saturday.

17:22

Tommy: Are you impressed by that? The caveat is on my goal of every second day, walking's not included. So for me, not for you. For exercise. Exercise, it's not classed as exercise for me. I have to sweat, I have to break a sweat.

17:39

Josh: I'm sweating now.

17:40

Tommy: Yeah, we've got lights in front of us and the camera's in front of us.

17:43

Josh: So I've ticked it, you're sweating, and I haven't actually moved, so that's not gonna work.

17:48

Tommy: Heart rate is one thing.

17:50

Josh: What heart rate? What should my heart rate be?

17:52

Tommy: I don't know what yours needs to be, but what, like, but that's specific to the things— 220 take away your age equals maximum heart rate.

18:00

Josh: And so, so I should hit my maximum heart rate how often?

18:02

Tommy: You could, maybe this is a thing, within an exercise session, you need to hit your maximum heart rate once. Can we— can everyone—

18:10

Josh: hi@thedailytalkshow.com if people think Tommy's wrong about this walking thing.

18:13

Tommy: Hang on, no, but I'm not— it's not about for anyone else. If you want to walk an hour a day, go for it. All I was saying was, for me, it's like your mate who's saying he's walking Mount Kilimanjaro and you're like, fucking sick, bro. I reckon walking an hour— does he know what he's got himself into?

18:30

Josh: I think walking an hour a day is Easiest.

18:32

Tommy: There's a reason 9 days in we're having a conversation about how you haven't hit all your goals.

18:36

Josh: But not walking, the walking one's been able to happen. That's cool.

18:39

Tommy: And so I have no pushback on it. My thinking is, fuck dude, that's a lot to cram into when we're doing a heavyweight session, when you've got writing a book, when you've got all these things as well. That's all I'm saying.

18:52

Josh: I know, but I think the difference between walking an hour and making sure that you hit a heart rate of 180. No, but I'm not saying that.

18:59

Tommy: You were going, what could I do?

19:00

Josh: And I'm like, But I reckon that solution is more complicated.

19:05

Tommy: But you push me into the corner to give you a fucking solution. I never said stop walking. Maybe it's something you could do as well.

19:11

Josh: I don't know, I don't know. But then, so you're asking to add to my plan?

19:14

Tommy: Okay, I'm not adding, I'm not fucking telling you to stop, I'm not adding in anything. So keep doing it. I don't even know how you painted me into a corner where I'm telling you to give your heart rate up.

19:26

Josh: I don't have any paint. All right, so do we want to know my weekly goals?

19:31

Tommy: Are we done with this? Definitely not, definitely not. So I'll tell you about what happened last night. I, uh, right, one. So last night, woken up, it was fucking annoying. You know when you wake up and you're like, fuck, what time is it? Is it 5 AM?

19:46

Josh: I had that the other day. I thought it was like 4 AM and Bree and I had been getting up at 5. I said to Bree, oh, what's the time? She looked and she said 11:30.

19:55

Tommy: I was like, dude, yes, it was 11:30, exactly 11:30 last night.

19:59

Josh: Maybe this has got something. Conspiracy Jimmery, Jimmery, Jimmery. Yeah, Conspiracy Jimmy has been getting into— he said, oh mate, he has a t-shirt that says 17:17, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, is it?

20:12

Tommy: Or 17?

20:13

Josh: I thought it was 7, 7, 7, 7. And he said, um, oh, do you know anything about numerology? Oh, of course I did. And I was like, oh no, not really. He started explaining it, and then I said, uh, oh, it's sort of like 11:11. He goes, how do you know about 11:11?

20:31

Tommy: The best thing about Conspiracy Jimmy is he's well into conspiracies but believes in numerology, which could— I mean, it's not conspiracy, but he like— that's what I love about him. He's got this depth in this spiritual sense but then also has pushback on so much shit, which I love.

20:48

Josh: Well, the interesting bit though was that he had this reaction as if I'd known something that was some secret. I said, oh no, when I look, I know that Jimmy's very excited about it when all he says is Google it, man, just Google it. But I was saying, yeah, I constantly look at the clock and it will say 11:11.

21:08

Tommy: That happens a lot. I think that's the power of thought. It's like you attract—

21:13

Josh: It's a coincidence. Yeah, it's like when you buy a red car. Well, yeah, yeah, it's weird.

21:18

Tommy: I mean, everyone— so how many people have said that it's 11:11? So anyway, it was 11:30, so I'm here in my bed and I'm fucking listening. All I hear is this. Really? So I hope that sound effect came through. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

21:36

Josh: It was like a squeaking sound for people.

21:37

Tommy: It was either a child jumping on a bed or a dude upstairs Upstairs above us, so directly like our bedroom, a dude and a woman, 'cause there was a man and a woman that live in this house and they were having special time. But this is, so they're a neighbour that are like, you know, the neighbor, it's the thought, it's the 11:11, it's the attracting something. You're gonna see a bad, something bad happen, or you're gonna see an annoying behaviour because you're looking for annoying behaviour because they're an annoying neighbor. It's like, "Bin's fucked." It's like, "Those fuckers." And then you see him doing something like that, motherfucker. You know, so it's like attractive.

22:14

Josh: They have time to have sex, but don't have time to remove the milk carton from the bin.

22:21

Tommy: Definitely. That is one thing that pisses me off.

22:24

Josh: But so what was your, 'cause Bringy and I have heard, when we were in Europe, we heard some full craziness coming and we were just like, Apartment block living, you almost stop and listen.

22:38

Tommy: There's a difference because I've heard them when they're drunk and I've heard them when they're not drunk. What does that mean? There's volume, there's an intensity 1000% on a Saturday night late. And apartment living, we're right, they're right above us. It's like in what I find funny, it's probably very immature to think, I always thought in high-rise buildings where the buildings are all the same, the rooms are all the same, you're on a toilet, there's 100 toilets below you. So you're just shitting on top. Everyone's shitting on each other.

23:07

Josh: It's a big shitty centipede or whatever.

23:10

Tommy: Anyway, so that was one thing I was like—

23:14

Josh: Imagine being on ground level.

23:15

Tommy: I've got no problem, like do what you want. Fucking close the window, just settle it down.

23:20

Josh: So that's why it was because the window was open, that's why you could hear it?

23:22

Tommy: My window was open, they don't have double glaze because I used to live in their apartment. And so it was, I was listening and I was like, oh fuck, and then it sort of all stopped. But this is the annoying bit because I've been thinking about saying something to them and not about the sex thing. It was the classic finished. There was no real climax. It sounded like it just fucking ended. She was disappointed. She was disappointed. Sounded like she was disappointed. It was just like, and then it was all over. And then I just get this huge waft of smoke. He would have been out just, just fucking proud of himself. Just punching a duri on the balcony. And here's the thing, he has been— they have been— I don't know which one it is, he or she, whatever. They've been smoking, and it's just— for some reason, our house and our windows and our apartment have been like a suction. It's like he's on the balcony, which was on the corner of the building.

24:16

Josh: From all your heavy breathing, for getting so upset with it all?

24:19

Tommy: No, man, it's like Amy woke up, she She's like, "Is that smoke?" So did she wake up?

24:26

Josh: So she woke up after the sex?

24:28

Tommy: Well, I woke up and then I nudged her and was like, "Can you hear that? Can you hear that?

24:33

Josh: They're going at it." Do you think that, did you, is there any arousal from you in the idea of other people having sex? I mean, I, yeah. It sort of puts the pressure on a little bit. I know that I can say that potentially Bree and I are having sex.

24:47

Tommy: Well, it does sound like they're having a better time than you've ever had. Then you're like, He's performing, she's enjoying, and that sounds nothing like us. There is a slight comparison, I will admit that.

24:58

Josh: It's like, so do you think so? There was a little bit of like, Amy, Amy, can you hear?

25:03

Tommy: To be honest, I've— I— majority of people I've heard, I've thought to myself, what the fuck's going on in there? It's either I'm full conservative or they're fucking full-blown Yeah, you know, they're full-blown in many ways. Anyway, do— because I've now got a child to think about, and I haven't— and I wasn't gonna— I don't think I would have said anything prior to a child, but Bodhi's window, my son, is open. It's open. And so the suction goes in. I'm just like, here's the— here's the approach that I wanted to get your thoughts on. Can I go up and just say— it's not saying stop what you're doing, stop smoking on the balcony.

25:44

Josh: It's just going, hey guys, you guys were fucking.

25:48

Tommy: Yeah, it really came to light after you were fucking because I couldn't go back to sleep after that. Yeah, you— when you smoke on the balcony, it sucks into our apartment and especially into my son, my baby boy's room.

26:01

Josh: You're about to fuck Siggy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:04

Tommy: And so if I just said that and if they say, oh, okay, I said, yeah. And so rather than saying, fuckers, you're gonna legit fuckers, stop this. Just saying, hey, this is what happened.

26:18

Josh: So it was last night?

26:19

Tommy: Last night. Hey, yeah, so last night around 11, around about 11:41 Wednesday after the 10-minute session, there was some smoke.

26:28

Josh: So 10 minutes, do you reckon?

26:31

Tommy: Yeah, it would have been about 10 minutes because I got back to sleep pretty soon. I did. I just, I looked at my time again. I was like, I'm going back, stopwatch. No, no, I didn't. But do you think that's a good tact?

26:43

Josh: I don't feel like the need. I reckon I'd probably, I'm pretty non-confrontational. I would move apartments.

26:50

Tommy: That's excessive. And I've got a fucking child.

26:54

Josh: And so it's annoying. You didn't really fully answer the, so the whole, the whole thing about like when you hear people having sex The pressure. Sure, yeah.

27:03

Tommy: I mean, that was my answer that you can, the curse of comparison. You can be listening and going, yeah, judging yourself, judging the situation. But I did think about it.

27:17

Josh: What did you and Amy have a do? She was asleep, she was asleep.

27:20

Tommy: She was asleep, but she was a— But you still— I woke her up, but she like, she's a deep sleeper. So, but the other time it was outrageous.

27:30

Josh: And so what do you remember? What was the conversation you and Amy had?

27:33

Tommy: Nothing. So you just sort of—

27:36

Josh: silence, just like—

27:37

Tommy: well, the conversation wasn't, why don't we sound like that?

27:41

Josh: I know, but you could also— were you commentating about like, wow, can you hear that?

27:46

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, it was outrageous. Because I remember when we were in Europe, the—

27:52

Josh: it was— where was it? Was it like Germany or whatever?

27:54

Tommy: Because we're filming and we've got a 37 seconds.

27:57

Josh: Yes, we'll have to keep the rest of the sex storeys for another day.

28:00

Tommy: So I'm not going to go and knock on their door, you don't think?

28:03

Josh: No, absolutely not. Yeah, okay. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com, have you got any theory on these sex stories? Is it, yeah, the whole comparison thing? Have you been, have you gotten to a point where you've had to tell a neighbor, guys, can you stop? Having your after sex cigarette.

28:24

Tommy: Stop doing the thing. There was a guy downstairs that did the same and there was noise. Like, we didn't hear it, but our other neighbours were like, oh my God, did you hear it? Oh my God. All right, we've got to go. The Daily Talk Show. Where's this going? YouTube.

28:37

Josh: Let's put it on our YouTube. YouTube.com/TheDailyTalkShow. Please subscribe.

28:41

Tommy: Yes. Have a good one, guys.

28:42

Josh: We'll see you tomorrow. Trevor tomorrow. Yes. From CES. Bye. Catch ya. Bye.

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