- December 6, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday December 6 (Ep 233) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 233 Yeah, yeah. Happy Thursday. Oh, yeah. 930 in the morning here. Yeah, it is 35 degrees. It's gonna be it's gonna be stinking hot when I closed up my whole house to record what do you reckon the temperature is in Afghanistan
now? Well is well. I can be somewhat chilly. I reckon we would have a hotter high today than Afghanistan.
might I don't know. It says stand at the end of it. And we're always Afghanistan. Or Sean Connery was of cornerstone.
Sean Connery that's taken
That's lame nation. Sean Connery is he's the guy that was the
original Indiana Jones.
fell out of the Oh no. He had a plane crash. Did he? Like plane crash? I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
there's been a heap of celebrities have been like plane crashes. But like the only thing that I can take from that is that they're rich enough to fly on like Sean Connery jet planes whose name Sean what nationality? So you know, my mate post malone. He was in his he was in a jet small jet. And he had to make a crash landing. Or when I say crash landing, the landing gear was f2. And it was it was pretty scary. He says, Well, according to Tim's a,
guess what time it is in Afghanistan. Right. And I
actually like this game. 9:20am here. I reckon it's like 939. So 930. Here. I reckon ed is 7:30pm.
No, no, my office tonight it is.
It's 220. I am
okay. No, they're not. Yeah,
that's real. That's dance. You know that we have 70 people downloading or have downloaded our episodes from Afghanistan. But you said that and that's why I thought I would do the whole timing thing. Yeah. But I'm now interested in Sean Connery. I don't think he's the one that's in the plane crash. Is there being someone else that's played that same character?
What? Indiana Jones Yes. Yeah, there's been a couple.
Peace brother. No, Indiana Jones, Indiana. You never watch these No.
Time should catch up.
I remember there was there was a
so yeah, one of the other Indiana Jones was who you'd know. Is Harrison Ford. What's the guy that is MacGyver is he? He's not Indiana Jones different person. I know. Hang on. Whoa. I'm thinking Hang on. Sean Connery might have been saying maybe I'm fucking this up. Sean Connery is Indiana Jones. His dad. So it's Harrison Ford dad. In Indiana Jones. Okay.
If I write Indiana Jones plane
crash Sean Connery played james bond. That's right. So Indiana Jones was played by Harrison Ford. And indeed dad was Sean Connery. That's hope that's right. If you're a movie buff and you want to, you know, beat me up for misinformation. Please do hide the daily talk show but we're moving on. We don't need to know if these guys have been in a jet crash because we've got serious business happening. Okay, nine one business in Well, it's technically not making us any money. But it's making for change.
It's it's making somebody money. So I messaged you last night. I so I get the Reddit notifications coming directly to my pocket. I don't even know if I said I don't know how to set that up. Just
I think it is a popular. Maybe it's because posts that you post you get notified
on comments. Actually, no. Well, did I post? Yeah, personally. So you're probably right. Yeah. So the post I put out was the video of you and I the first video episode that we ever did. We recorded all of 231 we've recorded bits and pieces of episodes. But this is us in the studio. It felt really awkward. It was okay. But we've had some feedback on something you said. Because you told me. So if you're just if this is your first time listening to the show, Josh has became obsessed with reading books because he'd never read a book. He then began and I don't sound like that. You read a book for the first time. Can I?
Just one quick thing? A top of 13 degrees Celsius in Afghanistan? Yeah. Right now it's two degrees Celsius.
It's freezing freezing. What's the opposite? Because summer here, he told
me that you wanted me to use a sauna instead of writing down and you can say why don't use my fucking laptop because he was very distracted.
I look, we lost Josh there. But what I was saying, you were obsessed. You hadn't written hadn't read a book.
So I'd read deep work from start to finish. But I've been listening to audio books for the last like eight or nine years, nearly 10 years now would have been like 2008.
But what was interesting is if someone asks you have you are you read books? Yeah, you'd kind of say yes. Because it's almost like, it's not a lie. You listen to hundreds of audio books, you spend all this cash on them, and you actually listen to them. But you've become you go to a real old school,
say real old school,
old school chat and never say that again. Well, sorry. call back to we early episodes, we used to call something a digital chub, which is when you get excited about some form of technology,
but this is this is the other direction. So you've gone to actually read the books. This is the analog check this. This is the analog job. You've started using a pencil to underline paragraphs, passages from the book so that you remember them all great idea. I've read some I've actually opened some of the books and been drawn to where the line is, and it's a good piece of information is that what you're going to rather than writing books that you just going to take my own ones just read the line text me not a bad idea. But you were really obsessed with it. And you as a person you sort of hone in and I know you know this about yourself, you gotta watch what your focus is on because you can be so in and it's everything you were thinking about a book club, you were talking about the name domain names for the pencil stuff, but then it shifted slightly when you fucking told me that you were rewriting to get in on Monday. Yeah, I'm actually started reading Seth Golden's brand new book. This is marketing. And I've actually started writing and I've taken it beyond the underlining. I'm writing every word of this book into this, this exercise. This textbook exercise, which 256 pages long. It's ridiculous.
This is marketing. It doesn't seem like that much of a like a fat book. But yeah, I had the idea of Well, I was reading this old school marketing dude, direct marketing dude, Gary Halbert, and he wrote the these it's called the boron letters. It's these letters that he wrote when he was in jail until the sun to the sun. Yeah, it
is cool. I like the premise. Yeah,
already before you even read it. The funny thing about that book The born latencies the first mate suggested that I that I read it and the funny thing is the first like four chapters. What I learned was the guy was saying you should eat fruit every day. That was one of them. The other one is you should do road work. I like that one. Right where when you hear road work What do you actually think? Yeah, it's it's not construction on the side of the road? No, it's like walking or running or something. It's
it's he talks about just having a clean mind put it on a timer walking 30 minutes one way and then turn around with walk 30 minutes back and say I like it every morning. It's it's a good practice to talk about fasting as well. And this is like in the 80s old school. So I don't know if that's maybe like all these he was in jail. So
maybe because of the ship food is food is getting stolen all the food, we should ask cops whether he can be our guy from the 80s. I'm wondering whether like from a fitness point of view, I can do and all the health and fitness stuff. I wonder fasting was a big thing, then I'm sure it's everything's come in and out.
Tim Ferriss was talking about it. 10 years ago. He's Yeah. So anyway, I sent you a screengrab. Also, no, really, because yesterday, you You said you want to sell on 231 you keep interrupting me so I can actually get to the point where you just you just made a mistake. 231 on episode 231, that same day, you told me you're doing the stupid thing of writing out the whole entire book, which will take you so long and will make even less money.
She said I'll sell this. I want to sell this. Well, it was it was a fun. It was a thought in the actual episode. Yeah. Which you can see the video episode where we spoke about it. But now the the idea being I was like, if I write this whole thing, it's a great exercise. And then I thought, well, if I create this thing, maybe someone wants to buy it. Yeah.
And someone wants to buy it. But they've had a great idea. So on our Reddit, what went off and the thing I sent you was, I see I was definitely not his real name. But comments quite a bit. He said, I'm assuming it's a Hey, I'll pay $100 if you donate the money to charity,
why are you assuming it's a Hey,
I see ours. I know. It sounds like a blokey. blokey kind of username. Well, it's not Roxy chick. But I'd say. Yeah, I mean, could be a buck. You can't tell on can you actually find that profile? On?
On Redis? Can you find the program?
I don't think it will give you much information. You could go back and see what I see. All this is also posted on Tesla and
based on car stuff, a cat napping in a no parking area. Going to start a fire. Yes. What's the bait going to stand for? Is that really what it says? Yeah, I hope this will make they'll make an adapter for previous owners of the CC is too great.
So anyway, are you on board? That it's probably a blog now? No,
it probably is. You're right. But you really want to get me on that. I just want to build a gender politics.
But hey, Shay, whatever will get all different types on listening to the ICF I'll pay you I'll pay 100 bucks. If you donate the money to charity, I want to see my first was like, Fuck, yes. hundred bucks. This is a great idea. Then I thought we could we can give it to this first person. If we giving it to charity. Yeah,
cuz hundred bucks for charity. I feel like we need to up it if it's not for us. Yeah, I think that we can do better.
Well, I made I made $1,520 selling those bike fishing t shirts as in that you gave to charity that I gave to charity. Yeah, I made $1,500 for charity. And if I can make that selling t shirts, that didn't actually take me a whole lot of time to do. The cause was okay, it was fine. Clean up Australia. But it's like, I'm sure you think you're going to over this. This is going to take you so fucking long. Over 250 page. So
if we, if I work it out, say if I if I spent an hour on it a day. Yeah. That was an anxious breath. Maybe it would take a bad. So it would probably an hour a day. So if I did 10 pages a day. Yeah. So it takes 25 days. So bye. Bye, Jenny, let's say by the middle of January. I think he was he decided to do a podcast every week day on your European holiday. Yeah. Guys, we did. Now for the holidays.
We're not dying for dinner. I've gotta write Seth Golden's book out in a textbook. So what do you think we do then? Well, I just
show email and put a bit in. Derek sent an email as well. Derek was saying that it seemed like a purchase order for the book. Okay, this is
so we got a few people. Well, if Derek's willing to go above 100 bucks, because he wouldn't know that we've been offered 100 bucks already. So Derek, if you're willing to go? I'll take 150 and then if someone bites you on that one. Yeah, you just gotta go higher. So you have to go. I'll take 50 we need cycling by the auction? I'll take 150 over he Derek. You got 150? Yes, we got 150 any other bidders? Derek send us an email. Hi. Daily talk show.com in the subject line.
bid, not just Derek, we need to open this up. This is a what's called a silent auction. It's a hotline. We've got Derek.
But anyone else outside of this could offer because we need to update people. So just maybe put your bids in. They obviously have to be above 100 bucks. It's like if you go to a house auction, have you been to an auction? You just like, there could be some wild unit over here that just comes out, you know, knows the reserve price at 500 grand just puts a million bucks on it because no one else will buy it. Okay, so I'm happy for the wild unit to put in a bid. And so how about this, the way that we also do it is
to make it really easy for everyone and to know that it's going so we'll work out what the charity is Yeah. How do we work out with charities?
So there's a few things here, we might need it to be enough to fund our legal costs. If Seth Godin, actually Susan's comes after the
publishers for copyright night. What about Seth Godin we because your mate to them, you're always on the email. We've
sent him the episode he was chuffed. I told him that we had Chase Jarvis on he loved it.
Okay, so there's still a bit of comms. He can choose. Let's get him to choose the charity. Okay.
So you have to bring it to him as well. We don't have to watch right? We're gonna have to bring it to him and let him know that we're doing it which I think is the respectful thing to do. Are you going to tell him you're going to ask for permission or you're going to tell him this is what we're doing? And then I need you to choose the chair. What do you think Seth Godin would do?
I think he'd like you to make a decision.
We just had Derek. Derek come back. Is that is the door. The door gonna be unlocked. It is. We've actually had scooter scooter Derek who is actually just come in. Derek says drives. Derek is
the scooter man. Okay, Derek. What's going on guys? 64
school school. Really? Wow. I mean, back then was that
I was literally about to read that your email. Can you just read at what you wrote yesterday.
Got with a guy that has a podcast has the worst Mike technique on Earth. I'm just getting warmed up. Alright, so read out the email that you sent through. All right.
Please supply it's a purchase order from Castaway. Please supply a handwritten book by Seth Rogen. as advertised, it's not Rogan is it?
It's a golden golden.
Prefer in Latin. But English is ok. If you're an educated, please advise when the product is ready for dispatch regards.
That's amazing. So this is a guy Derek who doesn't even know the guy's name, but will happily drop 100 bucks on the book. So we haven't told you that. Usually you listen to the show, you'd find out but you're now crashing our show. And we had someone offer 100 bucks already. But but the proviso was that the money goes to charity. And so unless you're willing to now put it in a bead, because I was just saying you should email us but if you put in a bit above that, that's the new benchmark. So are you willing to put in a bid for the Seth
Godin not Seth Rogen here now there is no done I think it might be worth
what so this is the thing. This is what I think we do. I reckon we get people to be hired the daily talk show.com to make it official. The money that they give doesn't go to us will work out whatever the charity is based on TJ was saying we should ask Seth Godin for the specific charity saying using his copywriting is
we are recreating the whole entire book.
Oh, yeah. And so just to be secretive,
was this is what we're discussing. What what would Seth Godin do? You know, fucking know who he is. You think it's Seth Rogen? I know he's because I heard
him talk on your podcast. Yeah.
And what's evolved? He's a legend. Yeah, he's the What do you think he would? is different to Joe Rogan?
the only similarities that both Seth and Joe are bold. So other than that,
very, very different than what Seth would wonder if Seth had hair. when he was younger.
It's like he came out of the womb like that.
I could never would have. I could never imagine Seth like, he's one of those ageless, timeless. Yeah, like I couldn't imagine him any. I couldn't imagine him as a 19 year old. Yeah,
true. I'd love to see a photo of him 90 that Anyway, back to it. What do you think Seth was
saying? Give me more money now.
So what we're saying is we're going to set it up as a charity thing so people can bid hi the daily talk show.com
I don't know what the fuck we're saying. Yeah,
we want more money. That's what we are saying so are you willing to put in a bid it until we receive others? We're closing the auction at when we close in the auction into the Derrick's trying to work
out whether his wife's listening whether it
give you guys a bit of a an idea of how, what what makes you driving in the car here someone go. I'm writing a book for no reason. I didn't catch the reason but it's like self development reason. Right? So
that's offering to buy it and he
didn't even really go. That's insane. I can buy thousands of hours of someone for that's a bargain. It's like Justin steaks.
You gotta do it. Yes. So the next question from that is for you two guys work to work out is how rich Derek and I am when I've lived my life like that.
Much more than 100 bucks.
100 bucks was the stretch then.
What is the dumbest thing you've ever bought? Do you think?
Oh, Jesus, I have a few moments. You don't
want to just do one? What's that? Yeah,
the catheter reference.
No, not really. I
I bought it like a two stroke. Daihatsu minivan. I didn't know I was gonna be on a podcast so
that's fine. That's because he's audio he's so
stupid things. I've bought lots of lots of stupid I bought a mini bike this year. This year. Yeah,
fact you could you could write it off if it was a 2007 is just some form of exciting bit of hype. Why are you buying a mini bike in 2018? Someone sent me a picture going look at the summit the swap meet in Ballarat. Do you want
to add this minibar? Do you buy these things? Because you can then sell them that was just stupidity. What do you think I'm going to sell?
Seth? Seth golden golden Ray. Josh Janssen in Latin? Yeah,
but yeah, I mean, Latin bits not had 200 if it's Latin.
I'm happy to I'm happy to have my bead.
You know, help. Yeah, increasingly a situation where people go this is okay. So you're saying the time was like that's worth a grand?
And so what are you saying? You put in 150 bucks. You know, the big
one Derek is saying is you're putting 150 bucks as long as someone out bids.
That's called shell beating. It's illegal isn't really Yeah, of course.
I know. He's good for the cross.
Sell your mini by how much did the mini podcaster By the way, it's gone.
It was $170
and you sold it? How much hundred and 50. always taken. taken an hour. Well, I was cleaning up Oh,
what the fuck did I buy a bike for doesn't go?
Alright, so hundred and 50 bucks. Can I hear I need to hear the words from you. Yes,
I do. I
need to hear some sort of 151 5050 and I can I conditional. Okay, what's the conditions?
credit doesn't apply here. I want the foreword. Written by and written and created by Tommy jacket. Okay.
You have to learn how to read. Yeah,
what happened on the train?
Alright, that's fine. It's for charity. I'll reveal my
confidence because I'll be the only one that owns it. Right? Yes, yeah. But I want my someone's gonna outbid me.
I will say that's an exclusive deal just for you, Derek. No one else gets the forward for me with the trade with
this ever happened in at a house option. They ever say look, put the hand up and say if I get the couch? Yeah.
I did it.
When I bought my house. We went inside and you know, they the real estate agent. I don't like them. Right. And they beat up to a certain point. And they come inside. Yeah. And the woman that own the head is in the room. She's a normal person. And I'm an old person. And the dad was in there I think was sitting on the bed. What are we going to do we need more than that. You know and I'm
But anyway, in the end, it was a pair of leather pants went into the deal. So we
appear whatever the trails whatever it was he Preston
impressive, where you cry.
So hang on that you gave them the leather trousers and that
they thought what a house and some leather trousers for 250 grand or something like that.
How did the leather trousers even get into the
I don't remember, but they weren't wearing them.
They were no.
Slightly slow. They were motorcycle leather trousers and they weren't for your family.
So what I'm hearing is $150 is the new price of the handwritten Seth Godin book. This is marketing by Josh Janssen and
the thing the other thing I'm going to add, which is exciting. Steve, you got 15 minutes to stick around for the rest of the podcast. Okay. Yeah. gronk yet good. Derek. Derek starts looking at TJ because making sure it was okay. Because TJ trolls Derek every time I said I get
50% of the Derek is made the way up our staircase into our office, Eric and I love it. You guys. You guys blow up and just talk about it. Yeah, yeah.
The other exciting thing, which I haven't announced in regards to the book, where I've decided is I'm going to go back and start again. Start writing again, because I've only written sort of chapter one like the forward and the chapter one. This is the reason why because I love wasting time. Because Science development, I had done it in an exercise book. And I'd asked Bry went to Willie's the supermarket to get it or she was getting some other stuff I said can you get the thickest exercise book you can find and she was in the car minding the car, which is a whole nother story. Much supermarkets it too much but I recall and she said they've only got a spiral book and it's only got a certain amount of pages it was only like 150 and so I said yes at the time just because I needed something to get started. But now what I'm going to do is I'm going to get some nice aligned paper that is on its own, but they can then be bound. So I'm going to write it all individually so if I if I fuck up a page I can take the whole page out it doesn't matter. And at the end I'll take it to think as apply you know bindings office works. Let's gonna say I was gonna say like something a little bit nicer with like a glue. Like I'm in the
right right up. Yeah, yeah,
I need like a margin something to deal with. So that's what I'm offering now is the exciting let's see much better value. Yeah, because it's going to be a bound book so probably end up costing me fucking 50 bucks just to give and I haven't had to spend the 50 yet on the toenails.
That can be a contribution from our business. Exactly. So we're bleeding money, but at least is going to charity. So
what am I going to do?
Although I see sorry mate unless you've got a higher bid that you want to put through and I know you right through and read it but just at least if you want to be you have to do it through our email hi at the daily talk show.com subject line bead and then put your number in what do you what are you willing it right now like if you want to go extreme go for it because then you might just knock everyone out there right now it has to go about 150 because we've fully dedicated to buying the Book Fair is it all you out there who's
interested in this book back to fuck off? That's my
that's my dog in a bit of demand. I like this I like what you do I like it. what's what's been happening this whole podcast thing this well this I got into my car listening to sort of mainstream radio and they're all talking about podcasts really to know why well because they're all planning their it's their exit strategy Plan B night it's because of hacking podcast has potentially been the trigger of a charge murder charge. To this week
to is it to this way? Well, the there's the the murder one in Queensland when the guys alive, they've arrested him. But the two days before that. Rachel Brown, who does trace Yeah, which is which the bookshop killing the bookshop. That was a big one ABC podcast called trace. So a woman Maria James was murdered in her viciously in her in her bookshop. And, and then, so she did the podcast and you know, revealing what was going on and then and the all the ridiculous mistakes that cops did and, and there was one cop who just stuck at it. And he's still legend. It was I learned a lot about this because recording in the studio with Yeah, she came in as Michelle Lori's guest who does the Australian True Crime podcast. Yeah, get a podcast, you do cloud
And I sort of plug there. And so what she took
what happened was she it appears it's in the news again this week, two days before the other one. Yeah. kicked off. Because she managed to get hold from what I can gather. This is Rachel. Was it? Yeah, yeah. So she that that podcast finished, I suppose. But they never end. What was that one called? It's called trace. Right. So that was massive. And that finished. But she kept at it. And so did the investigating guy who's retired now, apparently he doesn't. He's never changed his phone number because he wants to just be there in case like it's just got he's got he's older do nothing. But yeah, enter inside club. So the what it was, she managed to get hold because it was a bookshop. She managed to get hold of a magazine that had blood on it still was bought from the bookshop as a job lot by a book dealer. Back in the day after the shop had set for a few years. These details are totally made up by all accounts. I don't know where there was a years or months. Okay. The general vibe is she got hold of this magazine recently. And and Victoria Police said and said, look, I think I've got the DNA of her on there or whatever it is, because there was a kerfuffle in the in one of the subsequent investigations, where they took a pillow sleep out of evidence and tested it for DNA when DNA kicked off. And I think it might have let someone off, or it wasn't the priest or whatever, because of you know.
So who got charged on nobody
got charged both the suspects, I think a day what happened this week, on that case, on that case, the the results, I think found that the the there was a match, there was some kind of DNA match to another priest. So it looks like her son was being abused by
this. And so there's another one said the tutor advocate, they they do very, like timely posts satirical about stuff going on. And you might be able to because I read this, and I kind of laughed, and I had no idea what was going on. So there's a photo of this old man. And then there's there is a one star podcast review on the right, you know, ratings and reviews section in the podcast app. And it's for that Teacher's pet podcast, and the review is written by a guy named big Dawson 69 one star hitting bullshit, fully researched and flat out on true Can't believe people believe this shit. Also, the bloke that did Chris Dawson's voice was way off. And then the subject is Chris Dawson has reportedly left a scathing review of the teachers shortly before being arrested for his crimes that it brought to light so you can obviously obviously think that so he got so Chris Dawson was the killer or what's what's the
completely different crime? Yeah, reset.
woman that went missing and was never found. Yes, so a guy for the Australian newspaper funded a podcast. Headley Thomas is the name of the journal. And he did this one which he just discovered this case was just ridiculously overlooked. The guy was a rugby star. And he had a twin brother and they were rugby stars. And he just felt like the the cops have just gone. He's right, you know, kind of got away. corners found out fam that hey, like a roving reporter for true crime. Well, the two two coroner's reports found that that guy had most likely killed his wife. But the police still didn't investigate the coroner's does that mean they do you only do a coroner report if you found the body or no coroner's job is not to is to is to decide on the cause of death. Okay, so there was no body so they The coroner puts it all together like
an investigator. It was a missing person case initially. Was it or no? Well, yeah,
but yeah, and I've never found the body never found the body.
But they've managed to pin it on crystals and the the killer.
Well, this year, they finally because of the podcast. Yeah. They went and dug up the soft soil near the pool or whatever, where everyone was thinking that's where something is. And they didn't find a body. Yeah. But for whatever reason that they probably kept to themselves. They've gone and arrested him yesterday. Well, and so that was the husband of the lady that went missing. He was a rugby player or whatever he was saying that he moved. He is 16 he was he was he was having sex with his students like he was like a pedophile. What's weird, even watched as the walking dead or a TV show? Tommy they never use the word zombie in that whole show. No, never ever. Right? For some reason. They just go well, there's no zombies. It's not a zombie.
They call them the walkers.
They call them walkers and the dead.
Yes, I appointed anyway.
I haven't. I don't think I've heard the word pedophile. Yeah, in the whole Teacher's pet thing. Maybe it's a design for murder. Yeah, they're talking about murder. But that high school where the guy was rooting the even the female teachers were reading the boys. Yeah. And it was it was just a polling that is under complete investigation, isn't it? Because of the podcast is now an entire upheaval of that school system back then. There's a lot of old teachers getting in huge trouble about time. Wow. And headmaster, this
is good game the crowds. You know, it was really interesting. I was listening to traditional radio on the way home and hearing them try and talk about it. Because of all the legal stuff.
They're scared they try it very detailed,
but also a comedy complex comedy shows trying to do bits on it. It shows in town Yes. So difficult. Like I just heard, just to a point where comedians like up I just I think we can really cover this really like after like, a five minute break of them awkwardly trying to explain the whole thing. Yeah, just sort of what I love about is they're explaining a platform that is not radio. People will go and listen to that. Yeah,
just pet or the other one. Trace. I love it. What I said when I say go like this, the photo is just him on top off. He probably lives up in Queensland. He's probably just going to awesome this is the crystals and go have a look at it. X ray x 40 player, but I but I think that's a dude that you probably walk past. But yeah, I love this the thought scary but like meeting someone I wonder if you've met someone in the life is killed someone I don't have. Well, you knew him before he killed somebody, or did you see him
after the fact no. So I saw so I had a friend, film and TV course, he was on secondment sort of thing or taking on a role in Australia American dude, he had a wife and a kid at the time. And we hung out a bit and all that sort of thing worked on some projects. Two years later, he murdered his wife, who I would was hanging out with is you know, part of them. And then it turns out it came out in all these news articles and stuff he got like 35 years or something in prison in California. But not only that, but he's previous wife had died under suspicious circumstances were she was driving they were in the middle of nowhere. And apparently he got stung by some bees or and had he had an allergy and had an allergic reaction and she was zooming to get into the hospital. And they were they were going around the corner and she missed the turn went off the side of the road of sort of a real high Cliff sort of thing. And he managed to get off out of the car roll out the car in time and then he went off as the car hit the train
so Isn't that crazy? though? So
I what I just thought then that I'd never thought about when he told me that he must have had to stick himself with a baby to make it seem like he needed that help because if he says that's the story they go we can test you to see if you are tested Did you have
a whole thing i think that you know all of these situations there. They don't do that like you can go into the articles the interesting they did a across I'm I guess I can say his name now that he sort of said, Todd Winkler. If you Google him I can like a real killer. Yeah. Todd Winkler bad him on like, Facebook, on LinkedIn, all that sort of thing. spent time with him. And it was very weird because he was the sort of charismatic dude. So that's the thing. It is the there. I fell into a now that I'm on social media. I did go on Reddit last night, and I found this. There was a Reddit post around red flags. Also, it was just called like red flags. It's like red flags in life that you didn't realize until after the fact. And what came out is the amount of compulsive liars there are in the world, like people who just can put like people saying, Oh, yeah, my partner said that she was like a, an ex soccer player who was like, you know, played college level sort of thing and then comes out after the fact that all of these things are fake. So like, there are there's a little line going on that we don't know isn't that's terrifying.
That I grew up with. I remember. She was my friends, first girlfriend. I had my first girlfriend, and we'd all hang out together. And she was normal. Went to a private school in Austin work.
That's not normal. Yeah,
I guess that's the know, that security got me doing it.
I found that years later,
I saw a news she'd said someone's 28 times or something. She was an ice addict. And she stabbed her dealer. And the people in the areas in security just in my house. People in the area reported that she walked off laughing. That's pretty fucked up. He's got 20 years a long time she's in prison. You
think it's like, I don't want to get too controversial now. But you do hear about these multiple standards. They one of these crimes we talked about? Yeah, it was like that. Northcott and you hear about a multiple stabbings and in the TV shows they say well, you know, that means it's person or you know, it's that means something? Well, it means that it may be wanting 10 people could go for that felt good. Don't want to do it a million but you have to like I
guess it's the because the first one could be almost invisible. See people still wriggling Yeah, and you go.
I've got to finish it. Yeah, it's possible. Maybe? Yeah.
I mean, what's your vibe? Like? Do you get a bit down listening to all these crimes? I don't I don't I don't listen. I know. It sounds weird. Now. I don't got a lot
of him. I don't really listen to True Crime podcast because it does make me feel down. Yeah. It's always interesting. I was having a chat to a true crime I the other day about the
Falcon nine now true crime and true.
Live Nation day.
I just made that up.
I wonder if there's a high percentage of true crime is that that are in fact murderers. That'd be interesting. One day that will become a nation. Do you think that we were talking about this? Yesterday, I was saying that I'd felt uncomfortable when I brought up the hot chocolate rapists, dude. And I was I actually don't know what I was. It was an interesting fact. And I was connecting with the fact of it was weird for me to bring up as I was giving Mr. 97, a hot chocolate. But then I said in reflection, I was like, was I making light of something? Do you think that there's a risk with these murder cases and lots of stuff that we've trivialized, trivialized it to the point that, but Twitter advocate can do a post about a murder, and we can all laugh about it.
You got to get to and I think you're right. what you were saying yesterday, or I can't remember this real world or podcast. But once you're considered a comedian, yes. You've got the license, and people need that. Yeah, go to you to get that. And I'm not a relief. Yeah. And if you're not, yeah, then they go. You're insensitive. Pretty. Yeah. But if you're a broadcaster, so, you know, I like to hear what the mind process. That's what it's all about. What made me suddenly tell you that story. Yeah. That's that story about telling Mr. 97 that story. Yeah, I like it. Like the idea of getting into a car and someone jumps into the first time and you go fuck, the last time I drove a manual like this. I went right over a cliff. jumped out.
By Bay. Yeah,
it's I can't I can't consume the stuff but I can. We're talking about Michelle Lori stuff, which you're helping her with. What I like about that is it is specific. It's almost issue based. So I liked that there was we're going to cover this African gang stuff and have someone who's on the contrasting end, having a conversation with someone who has a different opinion. Yes. A journalist abroad. Yeah. Which I really enjoy.
Stealing top 100 podcasters browsing last night cereal, Episode One, season one. So that's the it's still going.
Huge. I heard someone talking this morning on the radio. I think there's been over 20 form. It's the pets what a teacher's pet a teacher's pet podcast reached over 24 million people. Wow. That's a lot of people. Yeah. That's like bigger than Australia. What's popping? That's people. Yeah,
that that's not independent. Yeah.
27 million, you know, 22 million. between 22 and
30. It's done a lot of podcasters
was like 15.
People, there's like 10 times as many people in AZ
I'm sure. I'm sure that there's less than, but that's the thing. People will in fact, in whoop, whoop, say they're still in Melbourne, like Melvin encompasses a lot. I get great. And Melbourne is probably like five. Yeah,
I tell you what, I don't think we can make jokes about murder cases. But I think we're a show that could probably have an in discussion of it. If you were to do it based on technology and the landscape, how would you get away with it? And do you think I first Do you think you could get away with a murder? And if so then how would you?
That's an interesting what two things I believe in my ability to do stuff. Yeah, my ability to fuck stuff. Watch enough TV to know that sooner or later, if you no matter how well you plan something. Yeah.
That's, that's a good. That's a good distinction.
I thought you were gonna say there's two things. What was the first one doing stuff doing? Doing Stuff? And second one? Why?
We're just talking psychopathic But no, I think that that's killing people that do stuff better. Yeah,
I just I, I think that it would be I couldn't imagine. I'll preface all of this with I couldn't imagine ever physically doing that. Like being able to live with yourself to be able to do that. But then also Yeah, what is like it seems like with all the technology that we have now,
there's cameras everywhere. We've been on five cameras at least today. That probably can that was just in the bloody BAM say toilet. No phones where you are every conversation paper you speaking?
Who was the conspiracy? Jimmy? It's, yeah,
well, this is who I've actually chatted fully gone through the scenario with conspiracy, Jimmy. Well, look at all the shit that happened. He would never do
a murder. He would never do. Anybody would know within
the app, he's wearing the foil hat. get away with anything. But yeah, it is an interesting one to
I don't Yeah, like you said, I don't think I think if you think you can get away with it. That's all it is stored. It's not the reality, because it is fucking hard. I mean, I feel guilty just from eating a tub of ice cream yesterday. Like how can I go murder? You evil disgusted when I said that. Did you eat a tub of ice cream yesterday?
Well, yeah, I The reason I did it, though, was because we can just say yes, I didn't ask for a raise. I think it was it was gingerbread. But the problem was the reason was so what would not unfair, it doesn't make any sense. And the reason was, that I bought it when I was you know, eating that stuff. A bit. I've been was really healthy. Yes. I didn't have anything bad. But I got home. And I'm a mom and dad for the next few weeks later date and all the wagon wheel yet. Linda said no. Do you know what she said? Too small these
days. You have two or three?
Derek knows what's up. I know. But Mom said there's ice cream in the phrase that we need to make room in the freezer. Yeah. Oh, and it was this is having a blow. Yeah. So the tub was so I was like, Oh, just eight. And then you know what the funny thing was? I said to my mom, like, should I put it in a ball? And she goes,
Oh, I actually just
ate it out of the tub. I think there's something real American about it. I like it. And so I did I fucking sat there. And I the whole night, the whole gingerbread thing. And then just then I had to lie down and write my blog posts of the day and just felt like this is
why I do this. Welcome to rival.
Wow, quick recap before we finish up. So Derek's the current leader of the bead at $150. He bring on the Josh his hand written Seth Godin, this is marketing book.
So you'd be today to come through if it's over $1,000 I'll do it before Christmas, if we get it in by which was not gonna happen anyway. But by the 10th. Yeah, it was by the 10th. And it was over $1,000 to a charity. Yes. That's based on we're going to ask Jeff Gordon what charity and yeah, hopefully doesn't give too much pushback.
We really, can we let's let's write it first before we conduct Yeah,
absolutely. Love for him to just go. Sorry. You can do it. And then Derek, and I will laugh because you'll be 150 bucks richer.
Because you hadn't dropped the money and still got the book, which still got the book. The other thing I was thinking yc Stella, why studies time? Do you know what I'm going to do as well, just for my own records. I'm actually going to you'll get whoever buys it will get the original copy. But I'm actually just going to photocopy it anyway. And then have my own version just so I have one because it's like this if if you're listening, catch catch this send me an email right now
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This is he's read the Marketing Board and he's worked out what is it about marketing?
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is okay. Is it going to be valuable to me? Yeah. So if my handwriting someone who wanted to throw into the charity, yeah. If I won the charity.
What does that mean?
To be willing to double it? Oh, read the whole book at all right
from Josh his hand,
right. tell you how does that happen? So if it goes back to you, you do the audiobook version? Oh, that,
that'd be great. That's a big commitment. But now when? When is
it a big book? Yeah, it's a 200.
Back 200 over 250 pages. Yeah. Like, yeah, you'll
be you'll be fine. But it'll be went What now? directly coming back to light Gen light Gen. Yeah. But there's 50 episodes if people want to hear it. What now Derek? Is Derek's podcast and you're also you produce a couple as well. What are you producing at the moment? Well, in
pretty soon I've got a famous rapper coming in to be on the more than a wheel and poetry. Remember, I can't remember. I'm not obliged to know the names of all the famous rappers you know not not Eminem.
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name? Right? Or Drake?
Definitely not. Dr.
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