#223 – Questionable Journalism/

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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy jackets daily Talk Show Episode Two to three one day. Why should fat Fridays? Yeah, it is good to have this as a lead up to the end of the to the end of the week into the weekend. I'm pumped. Did I go to full on with the intro to excited now I was punching the air you couldn't say it? Yeah, I got excited. I almost got a bit punchy yesterday with her. I was in traffic. And I'm coming down punk road. And I feel like I'll tell the storey of the justification I decided lot of punk road material lately. Well, I know it's, I mean, every time there every night over an hour. So that's pretty much my life. It's where I find my content.

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On the road, but this could paint me as a bit of a as hell, but I feel like I have a great justification for what I did and why I did it. So I'll start with the storey. I'm just glad not being the asshole today with all the stuff we've been talking about with suburbs and status,

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conscious that maybe I'm leaning too into the whole thing. Go on. Alright, so I mean, I mean, my Jaan day, cruise and Empire and I get behind this car and they kind of just like a bit erratic. And then we should have white What does that mean? Just a bit of reading driving, right like so starting stopping sort of like, just I could I was, I sent something. But it wasn't until I stopped behind him because I couldn't go because he had stopped it wasn't changing lanes just erratic in the sense that I would drive in quickly and then stopping Yeah, yeah. And I sort of drove and I was half over this side.

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straight and people were wanting to sort of spill out on to pant right? I like to let people like it's almost a bit of a power pilot. Yeah, you can come through, you know when you just let someone out from the side straight that they would have been there for 10 minutes if you didn't like you're directing the traffic you would love to be like in Southeast Asia.

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New York City. All the cops are like, you think being a cop is glamorous New York City you they just have them they're just on the traffic don't have the same.

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Like training. I don't know what they their police officers. So there are a day. You know, they just like the junior burgers. You don't get again, you have to work on Fifth and Broadway. But I wonder if they ever do fifth and 23rd. That's better. Fifth Avenue, Fifth Avenue and 20th I had to make sense of my I didn't want an example to parallel straight up from Broadway. Yes, that's why it's a real classic. It's a good first a cluster fuck

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So I'm preventing people from spilling out from this side straight because this erratic driver was in front of me and he was parked. Josh is your bond to the My storeys, man it's really good. That's really good. It's not go on I'm sure that was just so much capturing your earnings halfway through something close enough that I'd be able to your

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it's a it's a fascinating thing is I can't get it out. I'm serious. It's like a half. It's gonna be like this for a while. I'm running now if anyone else.

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Oh, we did this in children 13 1016 whatever the number was. He didn't have a premium number like that. We had 13 1216 Yeah, so six numbers. And we play to your effect we said call if you just your if you call your own. We're trying to make everyone you own in the JV. Golden Valley. It works. Sheet loads favourite golf

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Coco good stuff. They called for the silly, you know, crappy fan, which is what I love anyway. So I beat the horn. And this dude sort of like, didn't go first so I just sort of picked it again. I was just trying to be courteous at this point.

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You're getting letting him go from the side straight. Oh, no, no, I'm blocking the people that could be coming from the side trip because of this dude in front. He wasn't. So all the people in front of him had gone so there's like 100 metres between the dude who was blocking the front of me and the next cars in front and so he could have gone I could have gone and just all these are you in a cape Kleeman? You must have been either not cape clear. It's okay. It's because it's such a small size trade but so many people use it. They haven't bothered. They haven't. Chloe's usually for I don't know how that works, but it wasn't a cape clear. So I just want to hurry up and I beat him once nothing beat him again. And he

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I saw him to lift his head and look and just like flying his arms out the window. And I was like, this is a bit weird. And so my heart started beating a bit. You know how you get an adrenaline? Yeah.

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What is this dude? This is weird. And so I was watching him and I took off. It was a he and I. So I liked these car. It was a higher car because there was a sticker on the back. It wasn't like one of the Victorian Victorian car. And so I was trying to suss this dude out as a guy. And I could sort of say, he was in like a business attire. And I could just see his head, sort of rolling a bit. And then I saw him like just sort of looking like he was dancing a bit. And then I just saw him stopped. I had to beat him again, because he didn't go when the traffic in front of him moves

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on. And immediately My heart's going again and I'm standing thing What the fuck is this? called triple 04. I thought I should do at that point. But I wasn't too sure because I hadn't gone up next to him. So

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I had to beat him again another time. And you could see each time he would like to, like, almost look like he's having a fucking but not following his flight. And so I got in the next line, which was parallel to him. I went up, and I wasn't driving fast or, you know, I wasn't wanting to break the law. And I look because we get to a certain point together. And I sort of see him and he's like, sort of roll it like he was dressed. Normally. He seemed like a normal dude. But you could totally tell he's had a massive night on the fucking ice and he was coming down, or like,

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it's not like he had a disability because you can't have your licence if you have a disability. He is enough. That's correct. I'll say it again. people some people with severe epilepsy cannot get their licence. If If you have severe autism, you couldn't get it. If you have a disability of other nature. There is plenty of friends I had a friend who was paralysed and he had

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He's licenced disability. Yeah. So I remember it was doing I used to coordinates the wheelchair basketball. Yeah. And they would roll in to their car and put the wheelchair away and then drive. I've got pedals like hand handheld. Also, just a fun fact about wheelchair basketball. There's there's a number system based on your disability level. And you can only have a certain amount of numbers on the court of the given time. So there's some people you can actually play wheelchair basketball, if you can walk and that's like a high level palsy and still be able to have a high number. Okay, and so if you're on the court you can have for people who are just doing it for like just wanting to dominate but don't actually have a disability on the phone sometime in the swimming pool. You could have like, someone who's got like,

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some of their arm missing, and then some of you know, like they could be you could go this guy's got an advantage. But so you

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I have like handicaps, I guess in that way handicaps come from.

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I'm not sure. So anyway, you're in next to this car. You drove, still driving along, along, Craig along and so I got to a point that was perfect where I could sort of see him coming up. And I could tell that he was stopped. He was stopped. And so I'm just creeping, and I did this one down my window. And he hadn't sort of engaged with me. He's forgotten about me. Yeah, who do who was on the horn to him. And just, and I just rolled up next to him my window. And I just he, I saw him His head was there and he was basically having a quick Nadia. I just said, polio, Haiti, and the Falcon fraught this dude, God, because he's here today. And he's window down. He's window right now. Awesome. Paul, you're heading and he looked over at me. And he kind of just look like he's like, fucking annoyed, but kind of frightened. And I said, I've reported you to the cops. And he's like, Oh, please. And I say

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Dr sensibly. And he said yes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And I and I was so heated in it. And I felt like I was telling of a child. Yeah, because he was remorseful and like, sorry, but also cooked out of his brain. And immediately I was like, This dude's fat off his face. He's a selfish piece of shit. I know a guy that I grew up with, was on ice kill the grandpa driving while on ice got seven years jail. I saw him maybe a year ago walking down the street. And he blown out. He was massive. And he kind of just looked at me and I took two minutes to realise Who the fuck he was. Oh my god, I dude, but that he made that choice. He fucking went to jail for a long time. And I was thinking like, I think about Bodie running out on the road. I think about kids now I think about I am if he's walking home, this fucking idiot just drives because he's been the selfish so who's chosen to get in the car and I was thinking about that suck. I don't drink and drive because I don't want to I don't want to

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Like that would be my selfish choice. And so am I and Asafa doing now, and I was watching a current affair last night because I just feel like if I'm living with my parents, I just watch what they watch. Who's the guy that said to me, did you see that stuff about he'll song? That was on 60 minutes? Yes. You were sorry. The dude is getting the scoop from ACA.

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Current affair they did the whole storey on the things you can't do in your car. What you need to be careful of if you're driving which What?

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Drinking like as in like, you know, you've got a McDonald's cup.

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Not allowed. What Yeah, you actually don't allow that to eight not allowed to drink. Okay. You're

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not even allowed to be distracted by speaking to

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a passenger behind you and stuff. Like they were going so hard and they had this montage someone from a counterfeit

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Job Yeah. You know yesterday or a couple of days ago has been going on Main Street zooming in on traders as they're eating a sandwich. I told you about that guy driving down the highway big Highway in Melbourne. And I look over this dude, he's laughing his head off had a pair of noise cancelling Beats headphones on while eating a bowl of cereal listening to the daily talk show.

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It was probably illegal for me to yell out the car.

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I'm sure but you know the thing that infuriated me the most about the current affairs storey was that just said all these things that you can get distracted for like what you can get, get done for and there's a shot of the journalist talking to a camera while she's in the car and they've got like a tracking shot and the cat and she's driving and the camera comes kneeling in front of advice, Mike, you fucking idiot and I got me thinking of

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Like, what? What sort of respect do journalists have for the person who was in their journalists journalism class that ends up working at a current affair and said again that what what

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what would the piers yeah if you're doing a meteor incomes fucking degree specialising in journalism, yeah, how many people are saying, love, love, love love a job at a current affair? Yeah, you know, I've thought I've thought of a similar thought.

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Because some of them a young right there actually like they look like Junior cadet Yeah. And they'll actually 20 early 20s it's and I kind of I always thought that older on that show. Maybe they were they just sort of had a transition. Tracy, isn't she on a train? Yeah, Tracy Grimshaw. She I do have some she's one of the all docs on the team. Yeah. But you

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can say it's fun. quite quite

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You take it with a hype. Do you remember when Gordon Ramsay to Tracy and called her he called her a pig? He goes, Tracy grew into a pig that's back in Avalon. That's not not cool. It's not why. What was she doing? I don't know. But he just he was so pissed off at her. What do you think? I feel like Tracy gets a hard rap. She's on ice has been for 30 years something about every time she comes on, like this. I go to troll. Yeah, like

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here we go. Hi. tries. Like I'll say that when I'm on the couch like what's happening today tries there. There's definitely some some people in this world. We're talking about one earlier, where someone said a comment about them, you know, office Yeah, as I did someone else say that to you because someone else has already said that to us. And he's no I was just joking. But it's I think there is some people in the world where

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Know trust is a track they just have a vibe. They have a vibe and everyone's vibe and off it and thinking and scientific but I take it there is taking it too far. Don't call crazy Tracy Tracy. Don't call crazy. A P. at least go with doc. Because I think DAX Okay. Well water comes off their back. Yeah, I fly a swim. I can go on water. I pick a lot. Execute. Some of them are really smart. Yeah. But one of the biggest back to the to the bet to the cadets. I think you'd be silly. If you thought that was an aspirational job. Because Yeah, the form may be aspirational to be on telly I get that you still haven't thought about the substance of what you're doing because it's a lot of like banging on doors like Mr. Smith Mr. Smith, what do you have to say about ripping off your neighbours?

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Yeah, and some of them that was really paint a picture of their was what like the given name characters and stuff bad Jane's added a

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Yang Yeah, it's like

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she's on a crooked ways again, and she's stealing from from more people. It's just like, and what she doing with the money, she's stolen, buying chips from the server. And then they cut to her at the server. And James got a big fucking packet of chips, which I do think I'm like, you must be doing okay if you're getting a big bang.

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I love a good insurance scam. Which hand you're just a stakeout to catch them. I mean, there is an element of fun in all this stuff is kind of like finding these people. But there was a guy who are Yeah, so watch one. And I don't think it was a it was just one of the tonight shows. And not the tonight shows but like a news account official wasn't ICF but they like Sunday or something. Yeah, so it was Melbourne cap. There was a punch up at one of the bars in Sydney. A guy got locked up and his girlfriend got locked out his girlfriend going to punch

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Up to and then he should punch somebody or whatever. But they had footage from the night and then they'd fit. It's almost like they go out. Kings Cross, okay, there's a fight here. They're getting sent off to jail. That means that at 6am they'll be coming out of the sales and so we'll be there. So the same film crew from the knight of Melbourne Cup was at this dude waiting for this dude, going home had a nap. Come back. Tell us about the punch on last night. something ridiculous. What do you have to say about your girlfriend smashing that person? It was ridiculous. It's so fun, isn't it? Because I reckon there's probably what 50% of the time a current affairs probably out of line. Yeah, directing. That's a fair statement. I'd say the journalistic techniques are questionable, quite kosher, or because it's a bit questionable. Definitely. At the time. I was reading last night so that thing you how you said he'll song. Yeah, he's like one of the biggest Christian churches in Australia and across the

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world and they're up in see they start up and CD guy named Brian created it and you said something you hear about that? Yeah. And and I said, What about he's dead? I didn't even see it. Yeah, I didn't actually even say I saw the promo of that I can at the end. So last night, I spent half an hour reading this response from the hill song church. And it was like, here is our statement against 60 minutes and 60 minutes like made all these massively misleading. And I was like, the guy who started this church, his father was pedofile before the church was created before he'll song started. And Amy, Amy went to heal song. And Amy's pastor was Brian, and Brian is the dude who created it and Brian's dad was the does that mean? Does that mean Amy's like an oj or no should just happen to have you is that because quite premium getting the yeah thanks. That's like going to an

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Apple Store and being served by Steve Jobs he liked so we could go up to Nick, Nick, next week and maybe be able to go to a session that he's running. So the huge it's like in a it's almost like a stadium stadium. Yeah, I've been I've seen him with me. And, and so anyway, she and I, and so I sort of read this thing. And as a person outside of the church, it's it is very convenient for

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for news outlet of the calibre of 60 minutes to connect and just headline with church and paedophile. Yeah. Why there has been a lot of cases in the Catholic Church of paedophiles and priests and you know, this whole thing. But I just saw it is such an opportunistic moment for 60 minutes to create this storey about this whole thing without getting into detail and see that here's the thing, you could be triggered without even getting into the data, but that's what they want. And so that's the answer is amazing. Like, I wrote this big response and then

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I outline this thing obviously from the lawyers pretty serious of what they want 60 minutes to read out on TV. I wonder if they'll do it. I've I want to be I want to have 60 minutes rights in regards like journalistic integrity. A current affairs got to be the lowest. Yeah, it's almost a joke like that. There's some moments.

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Yeah, cuz the same shit all the time, too. Yeah, it's like, bang for your buck pizzas. It's all that's all. It's the front like a lot of shootouts, but the collective noun. Who are in Queensland, the comedian site, they did a funny one, which is like a current affair has discovered that there's a lot of wars going on. It's like the supermarket wars. And they go through about like 20 war, neighbouring wars. Yeah. So who's their demo, like because it's on TV, Mom and Dad watches it every night. So they caught up with

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In in the stuff they caught up in it like a Do you think they are they are they watching subjectively and saying I got it adds a bit of fat and bullshit and no no they they ride into it the Lynn Lynn come look at this yeah it's a bit like that it was like they had the

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that the alleged terrorist plots the three do to arrested for sending out like apparently trying to buy a gun one of those shoot up, Melvin Yeah. And so they've got like, we go to the house like the houses of the people have been arrested. And they like speaking to the parents and the the moms really emotional. And dad's like commenting. He's like looking at a crapping on

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why you bought like I'm just saying this is I'm just analysing it all just been like what is who's who's editing What's going on? How did this happen? I mean, we struggle

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Due to watch any video without analysing it, but do you think these shows are perpetuating racism? Yeah, absolutely. put three dudes who are Muslim descent or you know, religion? Yeah. and connect them to the word terrorism you have guns. sure that's what they'd probably doing. But you can see the outcome for someone that doesn't really think and is a bit angry and triggered. Well, just having that as always, the headlines and stuff is pretty hyperbolic. And it was it seemed.

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Yeah, I'm, I feel dumb when I watch it. Yeah. Yeah, we had a friend of ours, Julian's cousin, Oscar, Oscar Gordon. He was on one of those. And he, I love to speak to him about it, because I want to see if he was trolling them, because this this segment that he did on Channel Nine was they came over Oscar lives in this house where his window was pretty much on the fence line, and the

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There is meant to be a rule that you can't build within a metre of anyone's boundary or fence line which I don't know quite how true that is in some areas because like Albert Park what happened was together he's the room that Oscar was in wasn't accomplished we're talking about his wasn't wasn't meant to have a window the window he had was illegally installed by his landlord and so they were able to like they had a permit based on the fact that there's not meant to be a window on on the other property to build up so it's like a wall to wall Yeah, why the fuck am I talking about this Oscar comes home and he's fucking windows go on because there's now a brick wall. Yeah, at the outside his window but so he basically I want to know the processes. Did he reach out to them? Or did it come about because they saw it and did he purposefully with the foil idea? Yeah, one of the they had these woman come in who was a doctor that was talking

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How he wished he talked she was

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health and fitness. It would like a well being coach. Yeah this is commenting on the how he's losing vitamin Dana is really dangerous living in this room. And then next shots Oscar outside with foil. And there's ladies like so. What are you doing Oscar?

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I'm, I need to get as much sound as I can. Yeah, so he's using the reflection of the foil, which is a complete joke is the big tall, pasty man. Yeah. Probably doesn't sound bite. Yeah. That was very funny. It's classic. So I love that there's some people are actually so my sister in law.

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Her cousin is a bloke named Louis and Lewis has a quite a bit YouTube channel. Massive one, and he's a comedian. What's he What's he seen? Have you seen him talking about Lewis? Do you say he had a radio show was one he's got one on triple Foxy Fox, Evan,

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Lewis, and Luke.

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Anyway, Louis is a funny dude. He's like seven foot tall, crazy, crazy tall. That's outside of the point. It's just a fun fact. Fun fact. And anyway, Louis, troll the fuck out of ACI. He had this girl that he was friends with all basically this girl that he knows I'll tell it backwards. His girlfriend Yeah, reported to ACI that Louis and these other people were sending her these lewd messages and all this stuff. And so she went they came to her and in and basically interviewed her about these online trolls because Lewis was seen as this famous troll. And so she's like, yeah, that was sending me things like and she'd read out these statements. Like these messages, which were crazy. Yeah, like base obnoxious. But then a couple of weeks later, after they aired the storey. They did this video together where she pops

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happens that we're like, ici. He's the problem. This is my girlfriend. You've been to all those something like it was crazy. We should watch it. Maybe I'll post it on the radio. I'll find it. Easy. One of the best trolls. And they had to come back and say all this stuff like, we were misled. It's like, if I can only

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buy that would happen all the time, though. Like this idea of just creating a set like they love a good villain. Yeah. What's your entertainment? Like when you get home? If now that you don't like, Man, you haven't had a TV for a long time? Yeah, my son. Well, what do you do? We take him to the park, play baseball. Yeah, you get he goes, pack pack, slides, slide. And then eSports accent what accent is that? child, child, baby. And he's actually he is getting a bit. I've got to have a stern word to him. Because he's misbehaving. What's he doing? He's He's loving his mommy a lot more than daddy. Really, so we're not picking up mommy.

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Mommy, and just want I go into picking makes life easy for you.

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Yeah, so So what are you gonna do? Yeah, I don't know. I'm just gonna. Maybe I'm gonna play hard to get Yeah. Just completely ignoring negative. Yeah, the big neg if you could give that a little name the little neg cuz that little one is still quite big already I don't have time for you tonight.

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Daddy's watching ici

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talking about entertainment in the evening. Yeah, I'm a bit of a bookworm now.

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Might have I heard about it.

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Everyone else had a bad night. drumroll please. Thank you. I finished my first book. Yeah, I'm proud of you. Tell it tell us about because what I've what I've noticed is how big of a deal it is for you and how little of a deal it is for other people when you tell them because there's a lot of it like that many people

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I've mentioned a few times on there and you a lot says I actually don't like bright you get storeys told time and time again. But I like it because you will start positioning and like when conspiracy Jimmy came in here earlier you said Josh, Jimmy was saying that he enjoyed hearing about me. And my ridiculous eating habits and my cheat day. Yeah. And then you got me to reel off to other storeys. Yeah. So I know the content. Yeah. So your content, bang your man that you're managing it, which I appreciate. Yeah, but no, excitingly, I can announce today that I finished a book from start to finish which I talk about books a lot. I quote books a lot. I know a lot of authors. I'm a very smart, smart, smart man. As I'm saying, I'm a great dad. Basically great book one.

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I have always been shocking when it comes to actually reading physical books.

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Finishing is not

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Most people's problem

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What what? You know, I'm sorry? Finishing Yeah. Is not most people's problem. Yeah, most people are great at finishing. Yeah, sure. Fits, Matty.

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See you you understood the smart? Yeah. Is that why you said yes. Okay. comedy. Now it's good. I enjoy the company that the night I finished. Yeah, I'm excited about it. Yeah. Because the

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what the technique that I used I want to share with everyone because I think that it could be handy. What is the technique? So it's using a pencil.

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So this is the thing that was invented before a pen actually was actually as I say that I was thinking about old fountain pens. That's real old school. is a fun fact. We need a workout which was invented first the pencil or the pen which will which was started first Don Bradman or the pencil. Definitely the pencil was in high fidelity

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Bradman hi at the daily talk. show.com any interesting factor and stationary pencils? pens? Yeah, please.

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No, but what I've been doing is I started this book around Melbourne Cup weekend. So when was that first weekend of November? Yeah. About three weeks ago. Okay. I've, I've managed to finish the book by as I read, and I find interesting bits underlining it. The problem that I've had with books is I'll read and then I'm like, What the fuck did I just read?

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Yeah, I, I used to I think my brain used to do a lot more of that raid raid and I'll just start thinking about something else. I had found that from just reading more and more, I'd been able to return anything but I do reread things because I think it's like focus, you know, slowly sort of shifts out of it, because you can be I've literally read a whole page where legitimately said the words my

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brought up in thinking about what doesn't work tomorrow. It doesn't go in your head. So yeah, basically I think it's a thing everyone faces to different degrees of the sort of losing focus as as writing but you're saying this was a big music right now you're on the grind late. Yeah, you're on the lead. You're on the lead time if I still using lead? Definitely not. Okay. Definitely not. When did that start? It was always the thing at school baby like

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it was he might die. He might get lead poisoning. And it was a real thing, wasn't it? Yeah, I think it probably was in our parents day. Yeah, definitely. It's probably been a few ici storeys on, lead the lead, killing your kids.

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graphite, the new lead.

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For lead warnings you won't expect. direction it's scummy to be a journalist on ice or BuzzFeed.

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Definitely ICF Yeah, BuzzFeed is just in a whole nother hipster league. The other funny thing is I saw one of them in like some sort of suit, but it's just like they seems young still so they're like man children in like these

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outfits to sort of yet like it's very interesting. I wonder if it's always been like that but we just never realised because we were young to watch it. So up in Shepperton, where I live doing the radio, there was the local news stations. And it's interesting, young people like I was mates with a lot of them. They were you know, in this shoot sort of like doing what the Big Smoke happens and what happens in the expo dress the same and regional towns going at driving doing storeys, so there's nothing wrong with that. Like, I don't want to hate on that. Awesome that's cutting your teeth and working hard. But what I what I'm pushing back on is the just willingness to slam people. Yeah, and just it's just the

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And just be there when they communicate. They just always like looking at the camera and talking to you like you're a bit stupid. Yeah, yeah. Give me another it quite like your

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wrap up the show. Yes. What we've talked about some headline.

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Yeah.

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Why eating chips in the car could kill you and your family

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is so I'll do one more.

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The

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I've got one can we say here? Yeah.

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Here we go. Three, two and take us away, Josh. The three merit point move you won't be doing this week. That's a bit shame

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talk about it.

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Tomorrow is Friday. We are at easy from me day. We're going to be eating some burgers we've got Hulk eats what Hulk smash foods. Yeah. Hello Hulk smash number one eater in Australia and number one competitive Vader in Australia. Yeah, I've been watching some videos. Like the three videos I watched. No one faction compares to how quickly and how quickly you need it. The real question is what I want to ask him is, but are you enjoying it?

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There's a real ici storey in Hulk Smash. Yes, there may be we should contact ici to try and get the podcasters within new movement. Interesting. Maybe but we need to throw a villain in sir Yeah. Food poisoning at it now. We want to support like yes yeah, absolutely want to destroy local Yeah, exactly. Why these guys don't eat at McDonald's. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Why the fast food chains are in trouble.

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One more last one

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there's definitely something around

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the

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something around this world like detergents like

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the What about how my wife got an allergic reaction from our the

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washing detergent? Yeah

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the LD allergic reaction affecting all suburbs now that was shit I'll allergy there's something in our bodies allergy

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but we got to do for the worst podcast This is Dr. Josh is actually wrapping me out about three minutes so I didn't know you saw that

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oldies

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and that's the daily talk show. Hi got the daily talk show.com Okay.

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97 was you get one more chance tomorrow in front of everyone at at ease.

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You

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guys bye