- November 15, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday November 15 (Ep 218) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 218. We've got Mr. 97 in the building. Yeah. Yeah. How are we? I wasn't gonna intro him so quickly. So he's a part of the framework. Do we not have to intro Mr. 97? I just always there. Yeah, I feel like he's voice needs to be deeper. It says Tommy Jana. I believe we went to introduce him so it's like this real Oh shit, Mr. 97 z. Hello, everyone that's happening like real cats are now you're I just I break that down a pig. I couldn't believe every single time we do the show. I just can't believe it's already like whatever day it is. You tell me not to say that yesterday. Was it? Let's not get into the conversation about what's light in the day. It's like Oh, Tommy the awake. Know what I had actually said was let's not mention that we're tired. Because remember, like, I feel like because we've been doing it the end of the day, and I've just managed to do it. You can sometimes say that. There's some good stuff. So we just pause the conversation because you already hold it for you guys on the daily talk show. You're asking Mason? Sorry. My bad. You're asking Mr. 97. About there was a back episode. I don't think it was. Yeah, I brought it up. Thank you. I know you. Yeah. Oh, hang on. Tell us that. Let's save it for the show. Jason said I found the feedback thing. I really liked that. And there was a way to wait for the show. were you gonna say about the feedback episode?
Oh, it was I really enjoyed the episode actually is it was it was really cool. But um, I was actually thinking like, 24 hours earlier how, like how well Josh takes on like how much he craves the feedback compared to other people
to different thoughts. So that he just had he said,
how well he,
Greg, how much he loves to not like you literally just like hanging out for it. And like know what no one does that. Why? Why would you think that
just to build the case up for that? Why he craves it? Yeah. What would make you think that I wouldn't even thought that you would have been privy to any conversation where I've asked with it. Whenever I asked for feedback.
When we were when we were waiting and watching every person walk past the office to see that's right. Yeah, that's
true. Yeah, no, I wasn't there for that. Yeah, I was know, you were on the phone call getting your
feedback on May. And there was a meeting that I wasn't in. And I was white. I was white. That's right. That's right. And so what do you think God Mason got about 1% of that? Yeah. But so okay, that's that that makes sense. And so what else? Any other any other feedback for the show? Or Josh? No, but on that case, I get, I get that makes sense. Because I was saying that. Yeah. When you when you were having a like what we're trying to work out at the moment is when we should be having calls as a duo, versus having calls separately stuff. We have old clients. What we were finding is that when if we're both in it from day one, it feels weird. Yeah, well, there's different relationships. So it is it's like navigating that territory, which you'd never think about. There's so many things about a partnership, business partnership that you don't think about, because you've never had to consider the other person to make decisions. Yeah, I guess it's like when you have a when you first get in a relationship. The coming from being single is a whole different ballgame. Well, yeah, sometimes the it's like when you're in a couple some people jive with other people and not the other like yeah, you really know but you know when you really like the girl or the guy you don't like the other one the other partner and it's not even about like with you don't like I think don't lock them could just mean that you actually don't gel with them or you don't vibe them or the conversation falls flat every time. I definitely know that or when it's when you when you both say you and your partner jive with one of them really well. Yeah, but then the other one you just don't package deal. Yeah, we are vacuum seal. Yeah, so if you like me my best you gotta like me with Josh.
What's the actual actual saying is if you don't like me at my worst, you won't like me my best. You don't get me at my best.
Yeah, if you don't like me if my worse you won't get me and my best or something like that.
I mean, Mason's being closer to those sort of teenagers where that quote would have been fucking 100% on MSN Yeah.
97 I'm sorry.
We just have 97 Mr. 97 I like Mr. 97 we gotta we gotta stick with that Gemma was pointing out the fact that that we shortened podcast to party well I message here and I said the I said the the podcast potty pod. So use all three brought it right down to me syllables. She says she said same amount of syllables. For potty as there is pod. Yeah, sorry, podcast yet podcast party.
If people are wondering why sound weird, it's because today has been like a little bit sort of thievery with favourite day.
panels haven't worked.
Also this is I wanted to bring it up. I've written down I'm taking meds.
You know, that made guy. You know the panellists? Oh, God. You don't want to be the ones that title, but I appreciate you and you don't really take medication. I try not to. I've seen that as a result of your upbringing. Na, I remember you saying a few things. I do it when you young I don't think I did it that no, I think like the alcohol thing. My parents don't drink that much. What about Medicare like the medication now they would like take anti histamine. And so I remember my brother had to get injections for his he had hay fever so bad that he was pretty serious. Jackson's horror that's full on. And there was one thing you said though, that sort of explain why you don't take up like, what was the era? Remember? It's like, I mean, well, for me, it was like I remember when I had my really fucked up backwards like my two herniated discs. And the obvious solution was taken bunch of painkillers and I thought that it was like I was I felt like if I'd done that, it would have been like, two weeks later, I would have been back in the traffic lights with the squeegees on the on the on the rocks on the rocks. Well, you said to me before I was like maybe the reason I asked you to take the two panels because you are kind of you are I can you're actually more up and about now we are doing the podcast, but I think you've you've the could be like you can feel sick from having a headache. And I don't think you're there anymore. Do you think so I'm sweating right now. Can you say the sweat? Yeah, that's okay. You sweat a lot. So I might not know. But you said to me, I don't want to tell you that. Because then I won't know if I'm actually feeling sick or not. Yeah. So that is the point of taking the banner up. So you don't feel sick. But I but my point was it masks? Well, yeah, my thing is, I don't want to like, I feel like if I take it all, then that I'll be able to push through and I'll stay up later I'll work harder, but I won't actually get better. Whereas if I feel the pain.
thing is that you will crumbles when you're when you've got a bit of a man, man. Well, what was nice and sat Mason's like you might you just keep just walking around these last hour. No idea.
Yeah, we got an email. Oh, yeah, we did. And it is from Skinner. A Benz? Can we did we not decide that we weren't doing that? He says, stations? Well, hang on. I think regardless of if you send it to a podcast or anywhere, don't have your email address with your full name minutes, if you'd like if we're getting down to that level now. Not you. This is the great thing about TJ, he can justify anything by sight. Like if you ran over someone, you would have been like, they should have saved me. And it depends on when they have the green light, you're driving down the highway, and you hit someone. So all of a sudden, I've ran onto the road. So you've said he's not going to judge based on his email, whether I think he'll care on station, synchronise their adverts, so you can get away from them. If I hear an advertisement, I tend to switch stations and just hear another ad coming from right. Coming from radio. You should know if this is true. If you deny it, you're part of the scam. Okay. What do you think? I think that probably if he's someone who's got some form of conspiracy theory, he was probably hidden probably stay hidden. You reckon that's I can tell you right now it's not a conspiracy theory. The radio stations have blocks of ads there the the hour, the court the quarter past the half past and flown to the next quarter and then the hour. So every hour there's a longer news period. So you load in so remember the morning shift has different ad blocks. So the ads so there was news at top of our and a new sting at the bottom the half past and the fifth day market was just an ad block. So there's ad blocks at every 15 minutes Denmark I definitely don't think playing out the news at all at nine o'clock is a scam I think that says sort of a basic schedule so that but but i think is is now on why remembers these last time Skinner is Skinner saying that he actually he's the exact same ads on all the station. If I here and add a lot of investment. I tend to switch stations. And just hear another add
on is just saying this synced like they're playing in them at the same time.
Well, he's a thought, because I was listening to radio and I was always I can I can I conform to the structure of how radio is set. And it's probably been like that for a long way. I never question it. When I was there. It was like, well, we're going to get to this ad break. We got to get to this news half hour, we got to get to this breaking the news out and you do a bit like can you pretend right now? So because people obviously haven't heard you on shepherd and doing it? Can you do an intro? And do a tease and then go to a song or something? Three 296 or was it? Oh my god, so I didn't know his community? Right? Yeah. Right. 96 nine Star Families Tommy and Josh. It's currently 3:40pm coming up to the top of 20 today. Coming up in 10. We're talking about how Mr. 97 tripped and split his foreskin open. And yet right now Katy Perry, take it away. Would you rather so that could actually be a whole bit? What's that was coming out if that was coming out of the news at 905 or 6:05am. And then we were going to two songs and coming back in maybe six eight minutes or six minutes. You could hook coming up after the song so it's like hey, top of our give a bit of an update knew what the weather is what the time is. It was wack. But anyway, my thought was skin it I was thinking about this in the car the the other day, because as I hang on, if you're another radio session, just shift your ad block. Yeah, start to shift the back or split it out a bit more. Yeah. Because Yeah, I do that. I go I as soon as I'm on and then I realised is that is my switch when the ads Come on. And then I'm found that all the other stations have ads and sound like yeah, so it's almost like an anti competitive thing. They're all in this game together. Yeah, but I don't think maybe there was a handshake years ago, or maybe it's so we'd have these things happen. So you're onto something, not a conspiracy, whether there was a handshake or not years and years and years ago, or they just do it because everyone everyone's doing it. So it's like, if we're going to we might as if we're jeopardising our audience because of our heads, we might as all may as well do it when everyone else is doing. So it's a weird thing. Anyway, sorry if I didn't want to say your last name bit. I'm sure Ben will be fine. I missed a 97 I just sent you a link. Yep. I want you to click on it and find See if you can find any information about where the who the web people are who the websites you know, who owns who owns it. So Josh, I try to get rid of Mr. Nice and actually just send them off to do some new tie he did. Tim You got him to do the vacuuming today. What else we get into that? I feel like that's probably below him. Was it blowing? I don't know. I feel like well, he's a director of big media companies. Now well, I reckon the nod and I don't really have that much of a thought on it. But if if Mr. 97 his main role here is to learn shit that's going to help him with stuff. Yeah, but vacuum is probably not do you vacuum at home 97
actually vacuum my bedroom. Okay, yeah, cuz I'm dancing. We have the cleaner upstairs. So the downstairs actually just yeah, we'll get in line. Oh.
Did you say they only do upstairs or they only do downstairs? No, no. Okay, so
like downstairs you can still access downstairs and upstairs. Like you just walk up steps.
Yeah. I only do upstairs. Yeah,
because I kiss downstairs is like the garage area. So you like
he sleeps in the garage? Josh? Yeah,
yeah, it room off the carriage
yet. Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Yeah. They don't come down there. So I just vacuum myself.
he's doing he's doing he's mankind. So is it is it got that legitimate sort of vibe?
No, not really, cuz.
So it's connected to the garage? No, it's
it's quite Yeah, close enough to that. He walked downstairs, Garrett's on the left. And he came walking in my bedroom to the right.
So it's almost like your granny flat.
No. Room off the garage. It's connected to the house. It's the room. It's self contained. No. It's beneath my parents bedroom. It's a room in the house, Josh. That's what you've described them. But that's what I hate pitching it. But he vacuums it. So in a vacuum. And so I'm just letting him expand his vacuuming skill here at a company HQ. Okay, now make sense. So you so you've just sent him a link to one. Yeah, I sent him a link. So I watched all these comments come into like a it was like economy Gregor post is like, huge, you know, social media fighter. He's a fighter, even know who's him. He was someone with a shitload of followers on Instagram. And I saw one of the posts that they put up. And then in the comments section, there was a profile that was posting this thing saying, Hey, guys, if you want a verified blue badge on your Instagram account, click the link in my bio as I, um, who is this guy? And then I saw another comment. So he was going through responding and copying and pasting this, this comment to all the interest all of the comments on this post. And so I was like, This is interesting. I saw I followed the rabbit hole, I clicked on it. And it was just like a crappy account. I don't even think it. I think it was a private account, but you could see the link. So then I clicked on the link. And, I mean, I kind of wanted to get a blue badge from I figured, well, the funny thing is, I saw the landing page too, because you didn't know until today. But yeah, every time you put something into Asana, which is it like our to do lists your how we manage all of our content, I get an email. And so I clicked on it. And I was actually trying to work out I might use this link, if it's legit. I would do it. Like, I think it's probably like you get a few things. I think you get maybe the see more feature, Instagram, if you verify. Yeah, so the verification badge, the blue one, you just say it's like a little take all the celebrities have it? I guess if you're a big celebrity, Instagram want to sort of making known that, you know, look, we've we've honoured the celebrity or honour the social other figure, the public figure, well, Twitter was the first ones that had the verify thing. I got one. No, but the funny thing is that so many non celebs non important people do because that I think that must have been trying to build a base on radio, I can tell you how I did it. Because I was trying, I was so annoyed. Because it was at the time, I was like, I've got no cloud, I want to have at least some sort of visual cloud. I want to try and build a name for myself. Visual cloud is a good band, visual cloud digital cloud. And so there was like a submission form from Southern Cross on stereo that would have a Mel layout recommends. Yeah, yeah, you did that. No, I didn't. I I think that I was off the table. Because I was you went on? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it didn't work for me. And I was telling, I sent it through. And this is what I so I got in the mindset of like, now, they've just done on purpose. Whoever's putting this through this channel, like, dropped out a few people. I don't know if I did. I probably didn't. They probably just submitted it. They knocked me back. But there was like, if you are a big media company, yeah. Like, what's it called? Like? They can put like batch submissions to a department in Instagram or department in Twitter to have the accounts verified for their own a talent. And so that was what the email came out to us.
Yeah, that's that's apparently how they displace MCI media.
Yeah. So I said, so I sent you a link describe this site, Mr. 97. Excuse me sauce, the piece of shit.
Yeah, look, I didn't design it.
Now, it's one of those. It said, I G verified at web no.com. So it's one of those website builders,
and they haven't even bothered to connect the real demand for domain to it. Yeah. So this isn't free
doing the free version. That logos just the Instagram verified tick is probably not even Instagram. They're probably just grab that off Google.
Yeah. You could probably image search that what are they investing? What is it? 97?
Yeah, so it's a it's 100 bucks for
Instagram verification. So you get the blue tick next DNA within 15 minutes 100% money back guarantee. We could do it on our own, you should do it.
Now. The problem is, though, you can pay with PayPal, you can just charge back if they don't.
But no, you can't charge back. This is the thing. So they offer ven mo I think, and PayPal, but PayPal, they said you've just got to contact us via profile. Is that what it says? on here? Yeah.
It says notice our Vimeo account is temporarily unavailable. If you're a user, we recommend downloading cash pay direct messages on Instagram to pay via another method method. We also accept PayPal circle pay in Bitcoin. Well, I tried to find them on Instagram couldn't find them in anywhere. Because I saw this link and click Throne of my Tango. No, it'd be a bit of a blurry campaign taken down.
Yeah. How do you know? Because I said I searched I searched their name up in Google. And because he had in his buyer. Yeah, he had like yellow bar and his Yeah. And it's been taken down.
So this is scam.
I would say so no
guarantees to do it. But then said it's a scam. paper doesn't because I remember, I got a bunch of stuff. When I was younger, I got all these business cards done in China.
Like a lot like they had a minimum like 10,000 orders. How
much did it cost?
I think it was like, I got stickers as well. But I remember that it was I think I spent $400. And the shipping was 300. Because it was so many. Anyway, that's $700. Yeah. And so they sent me a photo of the ticket because I was getting business cards and stickers. And they sent me through what that was just so bad. And they've already printed it. And so I contacted PayPal. And I got this is considered a custom order. Custom orders don't have the same level of protection as what like a product on a website. Yeah. So if you if you like use PayPal to get an artist to do a painting, you can then when the painting is done being like I don't like the painting. Yeah. And so annoyingly, I had an option of I was out of pocket 400 already. I just had to pay the shipping. And I might the coal to let it go and not pay the $300 and said I just kept it all. Because otherwise I'm getting 300 bucks to say I missed it. Now that's interesting. I'd say it's a dilemma. I don't know what I do. Because then I think maybe there is some within the batch. That would be okay. But then it's probably not worth 700 dollars. Yeah, your losses. sunk cost. Yeah, it was was an idea. So the ven mo thing I remember saying online Velma was huge in the US. I've never I've never heard everyone
letting Yeah, it's it's more not not like it's more p2p, peer to peer payments. Yeah,
I think it was a mobile payment service owned by PayPal our course. It allows users to transfer money to others using the service using a mobile phone app. Dude, it's it handles 12 billion in transactions, and I handled 12 billion in transactions in the first quarter of 2018. So this is a thing that all auto scams met a fella when we went to NBA, the NBA us and I bought the tickets, he said I can just Ven Ven mo you the money. And so the thing is, that the US is so fucked up when it comes to transfers like the US like what the fuck you? What do you mean? I'll explain? Guys, I'll explain. Settle down. I'm explaining right now know, the, you know us guys, you know how if you want to pay someone like how do you transfer from one person to the other? If it's a bank? I just do a quick bank transfer. Yeah, that's what we do. Right? Yeah, there's so many ways of doing it. You can just do a base pay account. That's not the case. Like when I was doing work with the minimalists. Josh said, Oh, yeah, it's fine. I can I can get that invoice paid up. I just need to call my bank. Like I had to call it was actually like a credit union. Because the thing is, there's so many other like, in the US. It's so fragmented. Not any, like, the idea of Apple Pay was so exciting because no one uses Touch ID like no one uses pay wave. Yeah, we will be getting pushed away because we use it so much here. I remember like plant because I'll just tap that. Like, Please insert. Yeah. What are you talking? You hadn't shown a tablet? Please. So I yeah, I pushed but then I, a lot of the time I was tapping and then having to sign? Yeah, it's
interesting. Yeah, it
is. But I think one of the points you raised when we talked about this previously, was that what were of the big sort of players come out of the US. And you've said that there's been so much issues, so many problems and the problems create, you know, a desire for a solution, but the solutions come out of it. And so that's why like, I guess things like paper towel or even the funny thing is though some of the solutions are still archaic for us. So they're using like the mag stripe that you would say on the old school way actually a swipe the cards and there's all the I think it's coin is one of them. The one that that Oscar, who's Oscar? voice and voice and filmmaker? Yeah, that's like a strip. It's like a 10 cards in one or as many cards you basically scan the mean. Yeah. And you've got your MasterCard your Visa card. Yeah. American digital one. Yeah, it's all digital. thing is it's so dumb, because it's like a it's still using a mag strip. Like it's to wipe it's fucking so when everyone's on the paper. It is interesting to see America is like they're flying and they're just people hanging out the side of the Kagame. I'm trying to get back in Yeah, and so we don't know what to do. We've got this over here you know it's it's it's a real Wild Wild West I mean, it's got some advantages hundred percent the population does demand and so you do benefit even in the in that society you do benefit I've been thinking talking about just flying I feel like my whole life I am I just there's certain things that I constantly do that really annoy me that I just don't want to do anymore that you do yes choose to do yes
yes, I wrote down I want to be the guy that dot dot dot. I want to be the guy that has a cable like a charging cable at my like my for my iPhone at my desk. What I am that guy but I can't be that at the moment. I haven't been that guy and the guy that has one at home yeah, so my phone keys fucking dying at home because I'm trying to be that guy. Like, I want to be the guy that just always has a full charge. Yeah, well, I've got my charger here. This is my spare one you can plug your phone that's not mine isn't
even. This is say you become that guy then become that guy as well. Will you labour labelling your your iPhone charger now and steals? What is the exact what are the examples of if you were to say I want to be that guy? Yeah. What are the certain qualities of throughout one other one? Yeah. There's always one person that has the choice or the means. Oh, yeah. pk, my friend. His nickname is pk. He always has pk.
He's always got that sorted though.
Yeah, we've we've had a real good hook up with Mars. Yeah, but he's that guy. We're not that guy with a better guy. Well, we're the beneficiary of that guy. You're the beneficiary of May we get it we get some guy it's quite handy and what else Anything else? Yeah So the thing is I have been that guy but I'm not that guy. I want to be the guy that I NC State fact. only be that guy that gets up at 5am who has a kid who's you know married I'm a great dad just goes to the gym first thing that gets home you know? Does these family stuff before he even gets to where I want to be that guy? What do you think? Yeah, it's sort of similar to Tommy just like yeah, Tommy is not a
It's funny how we just say I don't want to be like Josh had not that's also
Yeah, no, I wouldn't be that cut. What is that? What's that? What are some qualities? I could definitely come I want to be that guy that can find out how to fashion charges external keyboard so he actually uses it.
There's a solo on you can get you said that solo keyboard.
I can just say that being a pain because I'll have to be in the sun. works off normal.
What? natural light?
Is that? True natural light many you need a window so and you run above but sorry. They saw the power coming like this rise coming through the skylight here. Here we go. Had a solar panels work? No nice. No a nice not even a long Mr. 97. Surely that's like four points in an entire school and knowing what the soul
I don't know something with the he's googling
how to solve? No, but that's gonna be a long answer. But the thing is, surely, sola needs does it actually need sunlight? It needs sunlight. Could you use an artificial light
know it just needs light? Like just this? photons in light. And that's all it needs. So so you can turn it off. They said
photons back the fire.
Well, what about if the LED lights? Why did you say it like that? La? la de? I think it's still I need it. I needed that guy from you. Mason, who's the guy?
They want to be the scientific guy who knows?
Do you? Yeah. Do you really? Yeah, that'd be
I can tell when you tell you just came up with that. Think about know what actual guy do you want to be Mason is going to put on to na. De talks, I read it, you can do that. You can add a list of five. But surely Mason? What guy do you want to be? I'll give you some commentary why you think? Think about the dude who you want to be 10 years time? What will what will that guy beat you got another one? You don't take the stage we got one more? Well, you don't want to be
I wouldn't be that guy. Seriously, we need to find my student of the week where I got a student of the week. One week when I was a kid for letting other people to have a have a go at talking. They gave you a prize actually got a prize. That's why
I want to be that guy who finishes books. Yeah. I'm like, the deep workbook at the moment. I'm like, halfway through and I was like, Oh my god, I'm just that's who I am. That's what I do. I'm that guy. And now I'm that guy who hasn't finished it yet? Well, you could even extrapolate from that. You want to be that guy who finishes going to be the guy who finishes things that he starts. And that could flow on. So Mason, the 10 year, this is how high the daily talk show.com if you want to send us an email, it's been great. And we're going to finish on Mason. We want you say I want to be that guy who and then says it and that's the end of the show. Who, okay.
I want to be that guy
who wants who wants to learn anything but can't be bothered. Like I want to learn everything but I can't be bothered going through the process of learning it.
I think you've misunderstood that. Let's give him one. I want to be that guy. So you thinking about the person the aspirational person that you like, if you were that person you're so much better. For you know, you're
you're saying Yeah, no, I get Yeah. It's like I want the understanding of learning. Like I want to learn everything. I want to
have a good Thursday. I will say tomorrow catches