- August 30, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday August 30 (Ep 163) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Wowee, this is new. We’ve just added our first emoji to the title of an episode. I wonder if it will work! Today’s episode we talk about Tommy’s mate being the silhouette in the jumping Toyota ads, care packs from Australia, catering at Tommy’s upcoming birthday party, the pressure to get engaged and light and darkness of relationships.
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket to daily Talk Show Episode 164 or 63, what did we decide? It was 63. 163.
You know what this feels like? 164 because this is part two of this episode, because we gave it a good crack at 6am Australian time. But the connection wasn't good enough. And, and now we've we run day viewing another six hours, seven hours later. So what's going
on? It's not even part two. It's not not part two. Because I'll never hear a true true
patio in my house. It's a
you want it to be part two you want it to think is if we didn't just waste an hour in the morning. But no, I'm just. Well, I mean, thanks for asking. Not that you did. But I mean, like blood right now. And I'm not on in the like that. I mean, I'm guessing it's bled a night. But I'm mixed. Like, and this is the best spot I can get for my internet connection. Right now. It looks Big Game of Thrones esque, not as old but just looks like haven't seen them the movie or the TV show. The movie
has a movie
probably. Will you think that it's a it gets enough hype? Yeah, but there's been a few references when we've done tours where people have made a game of thrones joke and then look at maybe because of glasses. And obviously that's like, I would be into everything. I just think you're a nerd at UMass. What about those Warcraft cards? Yeah
someone someone did mention Dungeons and Dragons or something and maybe talk about that on yesterday's to her and then looked at me
I saw one of the girls from gamma threatened or just in Collingwood. Yeah, office which is crazy. I can't I can't remember. I don't know who her real name but she's one of the main characters and
I was looking at her in this cafe. And I was like, it was just a normal morning getting a coffee and she was having coffee with somebody and I was just looking at she kind of looked at me smiled. I said to James might
she looks like she's from France. thrones but no chance anyway, I sure enough the barista when she left she's a she's like, you know, that's, that's that chick from Game of Thrones. Holy shit in Collingwood, where she from what country uh, I think she's she's either American or English. But she was he living in Australia filming filming a movie for a couple of months. So this is like a hood which Yeah, it's weird. I think the annoying thing about being a celebrity would just be like if you're kind of like not Tom Cruise esque. But you've just made it and people are starting to recognize you but they actually aren't recognizing you for being the celebrity they just love you yeah I think are now you I we made I just go it's like it just becomes this isn't recognized for nothing but other than you look familiar
well i'm sure like people who are in my commercials would get you get that all the time it's like a you the the mower in that mowing commercial
I'm sure that that's my main fits he was the guy jumping in the Toyota or add that was the silhouette
he used to say it was the silhouette is the silhouette jumping in one of the ads for the cricket without like he's like he used to just take the pace and introduce him as himself as the aim is me on the silhouette from the jumping at
that's actually that that does have a lot of cut through that yeah I'm actually impressed
it's novel so maybe that's an episode we will get 50 the silhouette of the jumping Toyota from the jumping toilet or ad which
if you don't live in Australia probably have no idea what we're talking about but it's just think of a silhouette of a person jumping up yeah that was him
well I think that we should do we should interview him with video and just like him as a silhouette like in a current affair exclusive or something
I love it could be that could be a bit of fun I am I saw on Instagram a friend of mine is living in London at the moment and she she posted a photo of a care pack from Australia
I was wondering if if you got a care pack from your parents what do you think would be in it oh the main things
from my parents it definitely wouldn't be junk food
okay it would be like it'd be like herbal ship thanks mom but she'd be looking at my health if you give me some mechanized should have me some some drops that made up of a whole bunch of funky stuff I was Chinese medicine and maybe like a Neti party Do you like that is
an SEC policy know is that like a brush to like clean up the skid marks
no no no as a young child you probably probably would have had a bit of fun with with it based on the shape but it was a it basically looks like it's a nose douche so cleans out your sinuses so it's it looks like it's hard to explain like it so the closest thing you've done smoke them but a bong a marijuana Bong Bong smoke weed out of like you put the tube we put the drugs into India knows and it's full of like warm salty water and you tilt your head to the side and you pour it and it goes in one nostril and out the other it's great for your sinuses claims and
why would you mum give you a net Tea Party well if I was living in London should be concerned that I'm getting a cold every second day because it's freezing some of the year and you use an se party when you like saying the word Missy use the
Nazi party when you're when you're sick most times too yeah yeah you can do it when you're not but just when you've got a bit nasal issues it's a help set you know who should use it Christian how has been on this show city was addicted to sign us spray and probably a unified No, but maybe that's just another is that the drug that you take? If you want to get off the nasal spray is you use or is an issue party. To me. The Nazi party? sounds almost like the heroin not and he's currently on the planet, all like Nashi party that yeah stop saying it but
it sounds like it's a big instrument if you're describing it as the size of a band. Yeah and I haven't I've only really saying you know the ones in the the sharps or sort of a homemade one that would be just hanging in our primary school when will kids oh yeah sure it was probably yours made out of the the you and I were to use like a Gatorade bottle in a house tubing piece of piece of hose thats stolen I think
there's someone in Brighton right now who doesn't have a working host to this day because Tommy jacket stole a little bit no no there was I mean you either you've got two types of bong hits you you've got to consider it and the inconsiderate the inconsiderate one will cut the hose in the middle of the hose the consider it won't cut it will actually remove the head of the hose and and take off the the fixture cutter put the friction back on my job and fixed it back on and say thanks. Thanks uncle Bruce, the team of the
hockey she can you can know how many boneheads you have around the neighborhood by how short your hoses heading by the time once you realize that you can't get any better you
know more than a meter away from your your point that probably it's probably pay. I saw a meme recently that was about bindings and now selling five inch five centimeter pieces of housing
and the classic it would fix the problem. But know what I wanted to about this care. What are the typical items? What do you when you talk about in the strain care pack? Yeah. What would you expect Tim Tams this is this is basically what will be. And you don't even have to tell me because I know Tim Tams Vegemite and birds far out.
Maybe your copy of castles so that yeah. So
they they actually had the Tim Tams and the veggie mind all that sort of thing. Yeah. But the the controversy came when I just had
consumed their content, enjoyed it and said, That's thought that was nice. And then later last night, he said, Hey, I was just talking to F, who's a friend who's in London. And he said, Do you know what flavor. The Tim Tims, well? No. I said, Well, they'll just be standard because he fucking care. But like, don't don't stray hashtag don't stray. Yeah,
her mom had given her white chocolate, Tim tech and coffee Tim Tams. Is that a care package or is or some sort of trauma that's assassination? She could die from them. They Yeah. Is that the worst combination? Like you've spent all the money to send a care pack. And when you. When it came to purchasing the Tim Tims, you went cheap. And this is surely that's the only thing I could think of was it they're on sale right? Why else would you get white chocolate and coffee Tim Tim Kayla Kayla is pack she's she's done a doozy. fucking kill this guy. He's the ultimate careless pack. But we actually when I was working with him for our show
when people like basically involves like a marketplace where people buy and sell stuff. And there was a bunch of people who had sold, you know, 50,000 plus dollars worth of items. 100,000 plus million plus 4 million. Like, you know, there's some people who had made $10 million selling one WordPress template. But anyway, we had this whole what was called like the elite program where the people who were doing the, you know, those high numbers would get rewarded and they would do a care pack. So adding Vasco at any given time, there would just be hundreds of packs of Tim Tams. And somehow that converted from being something the elite authors as they're called, would get when they reach certain milestones to that was just like a biscuit supply as well. So I feel like like what sort of business is offering Tim Tams as just like an everyday biscuit I would be eating though they would have been a top a time where I would have been every day just mansion just hanging on a pack
of 10 Amy the company she works for they were going through like hundred and something dollars a week of Tim Tam something ridiculous and then SPF their own offer people gonna chat down on them. We went and filmed some stuffing and Votto and i and i was appreciative of their selection. It was they had some royal Royals know the ones with marshmallows in them. The sort of Dr. Roy Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like,
maybe they're not my favorite. But I'll I'll still ate them. Well, that's, that's where I'm bad. Like, I've got like a real low barrier to entry. Like, even, you know, the the yellow the green lovelies, like I am the one in the past who would just say the shade at most. I yeah,
I'm sure that I got into licorice because I saw that there was a market of people not liking licorice in front so that there was a potential opportunity for me to get more May I mean you're winning if you like those crappy shortbread biscuits in the variety pack that nobody eats like if that's your thing you've always got a biscuit
yeah it's a yes it's not ideal my it's what else is what is what else is happy? Oh it's my birthday today the connection isn't amazing yeah but
it was your burn you keep talking at when I'm talking yeah it doesn't matter about the connection because you just talking you
know it's like it's the reason I'm talking it's because it's I'm not hearing you are you don't hear me but I may not but go on yeah so birthday a couple of days you're going to miss as
did think about getting you up on Skype in the corner. People can just come say hi you and Bray just a few meetings grades on the laptop but it's probably happening but I've been organizing food because we're doing like a bit of a sit down dinner and catering and stuff so I I've had a bit of a realization I've had some I've had some bad experiences with doing set menus and birthdays in the past at restaurants because this one time and I'm scarred from it. I think it was like 28th 22nd
birthday. And we went to this pizza joint and my biggest pain like my biggest annoyance with set menus is if they actually just let us 25 people order a pizza rage they would have probably made more money when we got some slides and stuff as well and they wouldn't let us order a pizza rage and so they did this thing and what annoys me was everybody was hungry by the end of it so what happened was I actually hadn't brought out many pizzas they brought out like you know probably five less than they should have for how many people there and people will drivable and stag any bit piston bit rowdy and so I've kind of had a had a bit of a you know a bit of a scar since then the triggered Yeah, I'm definitely triggered. But I just had this realization
and I'm having difficulty what a more painters I had that realization probably the age of five but they moving that mantra always order more paces how many you in a nap six. And we can play you can always put them in the fridge. Nobody ever gets in the fridge. But it's always that's my, my goats are. You know, we'll have some leftovers. Yeah. Embrace like, Do you really? You've left a quarter of a slice? Do we really need to put the whole box and the free to like, okay, we'll just say it now.
So I've kind of been organizing this food with the woman downstairs from our office because we're doing it sort of here. And it's going to be united like a awesome Mexican food. And so I was kind of like, you're going to have the trough of nachos? Yeah. Well, we actually have aren't going that now. So we've gone with more of a, like a banquet style, you know, do two different meats, you know, bring your plate up the symbols and salads instead of Yeah, it will be amazing. And I and I've just felt through this whole process of felt uncomfortable thinking, I'm going to get ripped off and yeah, and so. So that's my approach to it, which I don't like. It makes me mad. It ruins the experience. Because I don't want to think about the issue. But I can't help it at the moment. Anyway, she she got she got me to push back on something when I and her giving me push back on how much I was requesting gave me comfort in that when someone will say no, no, that's not how it is. It's almost I found comfort in that that I was then pushing the boundaries on her side. Because it's this dance right? where it could be. It could be in business where you quote an amount and if they just take it. Well, you don't know how far you could have pushed it. Vice versa. Yeah. And so I was like, all right, so now that I've seen the limit of where I can push this to me, what will you pushing? What are you pushing on? I want to troughs of natural it's exactly what I'm pushing.
It was really, you know, troughs. You got it right. Snow, additional
trucks. smack bang
troughs of nachos. nachos. nachos are very good. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was a good learning in that when someone gives push back, you know, the limit. And you and it made me feel comfortable as the person that I thought I was on the receiving end of maybe getting ripped off based around my shit. But then it like gives you an insight into what's going on in their head. So I appreciate that. Now, you actually relax. Yeah,
I find it very hard. When it comes to push back. I feel like I like for instance, right now maybe at the like, rather than being at the Airbnb because the internet doesn't work last night, I spent time with them, fixing it, fixing their Wi Fi. And I told them, hey, I need I've got a business call only to use the internet at this time, blah, blah, blah.
And it wasn't working. And so there was a part of me, you know, it's early morning here. And there was a part of me, which was like, Okay, do I go and talk to them and do the whole fuck around? Or do I just, you know, not not bother them. And I think that sometimes, depending on the mood, I can give too much pushback. Or I'll just like go really hard. So for instance, it's like the, the hotel room that we were meant to be getting that we didn't get or whatever the last place versus this where I think maybe it's because like, I'm empathizing with the person more because I actually like had to go, you know, at 1030 at night to their office and try and sort out their router and like, say, okay, like this disconnect the modem and the router, and what sort of thing did you feel good about that? So you actually felt, what about the pushback? You didn't feel like, embarrassed that you'd stepped over the Mac now? Now,
I see. That's the thing. I had no sense of embarrassment. I thought, I'll kind of push it a little bit here. And the fact that you get a bit of resistance was a good thing because they know the parameters. How do you think she felt about it? Oh, I mean,
if it's, it's, I think it's, it's just, I don't know how she felt. But I think it's the cost of doing business people. And it wasn't, it wasn't like at right, just like we're having 20 more people and you have now catered for them for the same price. It was like, if you can throw you know, if you could also do some leaves. That would be amazing. And then the pushback came, so it was very, it was very, you know, low Fly, fly, fly. I don't know what that even means. I just love
very low Fly. Fly. Fly was a low fly. I thought you said like fly. Or maybe you said life? I thought I said low fun. Yeah, don't think that that works. Eva,
how many people have you got? How many people have you got going to the party at 25?
We included How did you work out the list and don't have to include me now including you then Unless Unless I get somebody who's kind
of last minute. So I had asked a bunch of people that couldn't come because they had family stuff on the next day is Father's Day here in Australia, actually, anyway, maybe. No, no. Anyway, Australia, the first Sunday within September. So it's a yes. busy time. But yeah, I think for me getting older. I literally just want the people that I love being at, you know, at an event where it's, you know, about celebrating and just being around that good conversation. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah.
What's your tactic do tend to win at your party to have to do you feel the need to work the room or to sit on different tables and chat to people? Like, what's your, what's the monologue in your head when you go to an event that you're hosting? Yeah,
it's crept in that monologue, and then I shut it out and just winging it on the night. I actually I think it I think I naturally do it. So I don't want to overthink it. But I almost do. I actually have literally thought exactly what you said. And I was like, Oh, I say hi to everyone went there. And then whatever happens, happens. The thing is, like, at a wedding, it's it's like very much doing the rounds. But I think there was some people that I didn't speak to my wedding. And I think it's just when you've got 100 people and you know, you you having to go around Say hi to people. But um, yeah, I mean, I think Amy didn't speak to her cousin for no other reason. Then it kind of she just got lost in the night.
Do not do like the circle jerk thing at the end. Like everyone goes around the circle, not the end or whatever. Is that the thing wedding? I don't
know. Yes, that's a Jewish waiting where people will get up on Chase and dance around the so now not even that, I'm sure that
like, because I've I've done it's not even that I filmed a few weddings have been to a few weddings. And at the very end of the night, there's normally like, sort of a time where everyone's like, lines up or whatever. And there's a big Goodbye, what was the for people who didn't don't know, even though basically best mates. Now, I wasn't invited to his wedding due to our relationship at the time. That sounds like we were fighting or that I was your ex
was neither of them that, you know, I think what you're referring to is like the walkout where everyone sort of gets together circled around and then the capital come in and say we're often make love for the first time because that's what you don't have sex before marriage. Yeah,
this is that what you said? Is that what yelled at
night now? That's what I think when I got a really Christian wedding. It's like this. Definitely Yeah, they had to get the fuck out of here.
Did you have like, I know friends who are really religious where the the pressure is just like when when they actually have waited to to wait until they're married to have savings. And the pressure of the night is
crippling like the difference between someone who has already been there done that sorted out. This is Yeah, this is the night that they have to make a speech but then perform afterwards. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's,
it's completely different height. Yeah, I mean, that's the that's the classic thinking of it. I'm sure that's Yeah, I mean that most of the night, I'm most people go back and probably just go to sleep too tiring. weddings are exhausted when you have one. You've been working for moms in the near tide on the day. I mean, I just went home went it went to bed, she was pregnant and we had a hotel room we just snuggled
Oh, geez. That's the title of the episode my when you just said snuggle my ears ringing thing that does like comfortable.
But that's just the way that you said I think this year we just snowballed if
I was listening to the maybe a two podcast with Greg in a mirror brain and that they have a book called how to how to how to have a marriage that's not sucking or something like that anyway that we're talking to a couple are talking about how when people get engaged, or basically how they had this one couple on that was just as soon as they got engaged, that would fight Higgs more. And they ended up doing two engagements they ended up like realizing it's like when you take a break from each other, and then re engaged. Did you what was the things that you noticed when you went from boyfriend and girlfriend to being engaged? Did anything change?
It's definitely a thought that just goes out of both your mind. So it's, it's not thinking like I I like it now. Because what's the next progression of
marriage is on the
going backwards. divorce. There's only I know.
All right, my winning slavery, Slovakia?
Slovenia. It's the video. Yeah, the deal was the Europeans during my even in Europe right now. Yeah,
I think it's just for me. I know, for me, it was like the thought that goes from your mind you together. It's it's the the commitment is official get a ring on it. But what about so you didn't feel any extra pressure because what these couples were talking about with the fact that when it was all done,
all of a sudden there was a higher pressure to have bigger conversations or to work things out. And this was specifically on a couple who had, you know, hadn't known each other for that long before they got engaged. Yeah. And then they got engaged, and they're asking those really big life questions. Do you feel like he had all those pre engagement? Yeah, yeah, we moved pretty fast. talked about a lot of stuff early on. And tonight, I think it would feel
maybe this is wrong. But it might feel huge. If it maybe isn't the right time. Maybe it's not in alignment. Like, if you're overthinking something that you know, there is there's there's multiple ways of actually playing out. But if if the reality is that you can find somebody where it kind of just works and you don't overthink it, and you loving them that is that is a possibility for humans doesn't mean it's but do you think, I don't know if that's the I don't know if that's the reality. Like, I definitely like I feel like praying i a married couple, the reason that we haven't necessarily gotten married is just because it's like, it's a little bit more logistical in the sense of like, until we want to be like actually working out what we want that wedding or engagement and all that sort of thing to me. But
like, Yeah, I don't, I don't necessarily think that relationships are about being easy. But I think that, like, if, if something's hard within a relationship, I don't know, I don't think that's a really reason to say this isn't this isn't the right relationship? I think, yeah, it's not, it's the, it's the ability to reconcile those issues. Because, like, even from what I were talking about it in that podcast is, it's like, at the beginning, it's like, super easy for the first 567 months, you willing just to you have no needs, you're just happy to go to, you know, whatever. And then as you go along, all those sort of things change. And I think even being on this trip and saying every couple, every second couple that we pass or having some sort of argument about their travels and what they're going to do. And that's the same conversations around like, well, I thought you wanted to eat that, if you want to eat something different. Why didn't you just say, yeah, you know, it's, that's, that's a part of a relationship, anything
100% and I'm not saying that none of that exists. For me, it definitely does lots of hard times. But what I mean is, when if you're questioning some of the, the basics of the basic fundamentals of a relationship, you know, like,
it's probably more about, maybe it's not right in the moment internally for you.
But yeah, I mean, the reality is, we're so different. Everybody in each relationship is different. Yeah, but I just know, from my experience of having multiple relationships, where I just knew deep down that That one wasn't, if you if you want to use the term the one or just, I just knew it, yeah, it was restless, or something, you just, I knew the future, which I've never felt like that with me. So it's, it's for me, the sign that all the other stuff will be, will be having to tackle. If I've got that I've got no doubt in my mind, that she's the person that I want to be with, then the other stuff we can deal I can deal with?
Well, that's, I think that that's the the thing, right? Like, there's the fundamental things where it's like, Okay, if you can't, if you can't imagine this, or that you can't imagine sort of, you know, developing together and growing together and being to get that other than that, obviously, a fundamental thing of being a long term relationship. But yeah, I think that may be, you know, we spoke yesterday
about, you know, what we communicate on Instagram, and all that sort of thing. And I think that maybe, you know, part of the issues, you know, that were were saying, within society and mental health is because we're striving for some sort of perfection that doesn't exist, and we romanticize the things we romanticize whether it be Cori relationships. And I think that that can be really isolating for people when they're bombarded with this sort of message that, you know, you shouldn't feel this way or, you know, if, you know, if it's the one you will know, all of those things, I think romantic notions that aren't necessarily practical. I'm
a raw I think being sure, though, is so for instance, you could be with somebody and not really be sure that you should get married and they asked you to marry them. And you say, yes, it's kind of out of alignment with how you truly feeling at the time. And so you fall down that rabbit hole, which I'm sure a lot of people have, and then you know, they get pregnant or whatever it be, I think if you it's like, it's being honest with yourself on staff and being able to know in the thing you think is honesty is just these blockages like the Peters at the restaurant. For me, it's like, yeah, I think, yeah, that's when you if you can really work out
the honesty and the dark spots. It's, I think you're on the best trajectory to actually have a successful relationship because, yeah, Chinese or
Yeah, and because I think there's some, some of the stuff can be destructive, right? where it's like, if it's
my magnetic son who's gone through a divorce was always would always talk to me about how he was, he felt that in this day and age, people didn't give it a red hot crack. So when say, relationships got tough, the default would be okay, well, like this isn't working, and we just need to, like, move on type of thing, versus realizing when it's like it. Like Imagine if within your career, like if we take sort of the romanticism out of it, or whatever, and just said, okay, just imagine it was a job. And every single time you had a conversation with your boss, you know, that you didn't lie, or the company was doing something that you weren't necessarily sure, like, if every single time you just said, You know what, like, this isn't for me in a maybe that's what's happening at the moment. Maybe that's why people are on they spending, you know, 12 months at a job and hopping from job to job because they can't see actually the bigger picture. Um, there's benefited in holding in. Yeah, you know,
for certain period of time that it changes that podcast? Yeah. Like to wait. Like, if we look at the podcast as we, you know, like to talk about most episodes that do. We, you know, it hasn't been that easy. But you know Russkies center really nice email. And he was talking about
he was worried that I think he said, like, the alarm bells are on about the
me my mood being sort of affected by how episodes go, and I and he said, maybe, you know, you should cut down or something like that. And I was thinking about site. The thing is that if we were to use the running analogy, sometimes she have good runs, sometimes she have bad runs, it affects the rest of your day, how that runs. But if you sometimes have bad runs, does that mean that you should stop running? My feeling is that it's like, you take the good from the bad and you realize that the good that you get from something like say, doing this podcast outweighs the moments you know of sort of that negativity that you might feel Yeah,
and no, outside of wrestling, you're not getting the text text messages that audio from Josh so
you just hearing hearing the other side of it now that we're all good. I, I did read that email. I thought, I wonder what you say to that because he was concerned about you. He doesn't give a shit about me. I like a lovely rough. Yeah,
I think I think that maybe this is probably part of the, you know, talk about vulnerability and stuff like that, maybe the, the unwillingness to talk about it. And he's because I think it triggers a bunch of things with other people where it's like, you know, it's probably like, you know,
say, within mental, you know, the stigma with mental health. If you're in a workplace and then say, Hi, I'm feeling this way, the business might have the obligation to say, Okay, well, you have to get off the tools, you have to do this and that, and maybe that isn't actually the best thing for your mental health. Yeah. And so, you know, have it, you know, talking about this stuff, it's like, actually, I feel that about heaps of things. Like, I think that's just like the light and shine. It's not the I definitely don't say it is the end of the world. I think I definitely deserve an awareness. I think that I'm trying to have with things that I think that a lot of people just don't necessarily connect the dots, which is like, why am I feeling like, what are the patterns that I'm feeling out? Like, how do I feel right now? Why do I feel like this one happened? What was the first thing I did in the morning that may have affected how I'm feeling right now? Yeah, rather than just cracking a cannon monster and pairing through, and then captain, and Pacer.
As I've said to you before, that the reality of doing a podcast is five days a week is it's super hard, and sometimes really annoying. But definitely, I think about it, I didn't do it. I go to cerebral I think too much. It's almost like, I need to get my word count
out across the day to then feel better inside my head, like I have, because I know like, we talked about creative blocks yesterday. And that's what happens, right? If I'm not you said it, if you're not like, the solution to a creative block, is to actually just do the thing, because then you then you're back to what you said you couldn't be doing. And so yes, I'm with that. Yeah, it's,
I mean, it's a paradox, it's the, it's the thing that, you know, creating pain is also going to create the happiness and I actually think that within relationships, too. And so, yeah, I think that when, like, you know, brain I have been together for nearly 11 years. And like, that's, like, yeah, that the pain has, what is what, you know, the darkness has brought the, the lightness and the, you know, having contrast and having sort of, you know, you know, waves of, you know, different things, I think that that's what actually develops us rather than, I think that maybe, you know, mainstream that whether it's sort of mainstream
communication or culture or whatever you want to call it. But there is this sense within social media that, you know, and just how we even speak as a protective mechanism, which, which is like, unfortunately, society has made it so that it's, it's actually in your best interest to just say, I feel this way, you know, all the, all the positive stuff and to not give any glimpse of negativity, because as soon as you give a glimpse of negativity, people will think a glimpse means that they can unravel all of this other stuff rather than the reality bang.
You're just being real. And you're just being honest. Yeah,
well, I think I think
that that's definitely something that I'm, I'm always concerned about is I, I think that I'm really honest. And I want to be able to, you know, and you Yeah, and,
and I think that the because the fact that the positivity comes from the negativity and all that sort of thing that only talking about the positivity is being a bit disingenuous. Yeah,
talking about the struggles I think you will probably enjoy getting married then. Because there is it's it's a whole new experience for you, Brian, and you're thinking and what you have to be probably super uncomfortable for you in terms of having a party having to work
I think that that's the thing like the the the marriage, the marriage, weddings a lot so stuff for me
if it was just bringing a breeze my best friend and so I went back I feel sorry, Matt and I feel I'm having a natural trough with her today
I feel most comfortable with Bray I can be myself the most with Bray. And so if, if it was just a wedding with brain I would be a piece of pizza, the actual The thing that makes weddings hard is working out whether people are getting fucking chicken or beef. And like, where the fact you sit this person and if I invite that, like, I don't, I am. I just think that there's a trapping there, which is like actually breeze Not really, you know, I think that it also depends on the type of families that you have, and things like and I think it's maybe, you know, it's, you know,
weddings, I think, you know, that for some people these experiences where it's like, okay, they've got these huge families and, you know, we want to bring them all together. And also, I think, but like, we don't necessarily like the way that we've been brought up, you know, whilst we love our families, it's a different it's not some fairy tale family thing where it's like, you know, just chatting to our siblings all the time and going on fishing trips and shit like that. And so I think that
the weddings lend themselves to that you know, and we don't necessarily have the ash
you know, if the family dynamic might be a bit different than you know, a wedding isn't necessarily as easy Yeah, well, pushing back on what is normal is becoming popular for people they say oh, everyone does a wedding we don't want to do one but then if you have the awareness of
you know your mind cities I realized that this is what everyone does. But if I do it and my thinking is around I want to experience this thing that everyone else does and then I can take from that whatever I think and the experiences whatever it was but I mean from doing a wedding Josh it's a lot of work and pretty painful so probably recommend not to have been there mate let's just get a trough we embrace it and forget about it
yeah it's like I think that for a lot of people it makes sense and it's the you know like I even feel the pressure with
like people like my mom at the moment where it's like she's getting the pressure from all her friends which is like oh geez have gone on a big trip there must be you know getting engaged and the the thing with that is the rebel in me is just like like I'm not doing this for anyone else but for for brain is and so all for content The thing is yeah exactly and and my youtube channel
yeah but I I just have so much pushback to all of that because I'm like you know what like the thing is that the cost of the wedding the the realities around who's going to be coming to all of that stuff that's gonna that's gonna lie on us yeah no one else is you know footing the bill for the wedding no one else is gonna work out who's gonna get invited and so I just think that it's very easy when you are going to be the guest of a wedding to say hi I can just sort of that just have have the wedding versus the yeah and so like i think that that's part of it where it's like I've my pushback is in the the expectations around what it will be and I think that probably like if you know when brain I get married it's not going to be like wedding and we'll do it our way and it might not even involve people like I don't know
yeah well I think the title of this episode is we've gone full thinker girls
it's got yeah I'm Which one of you
who Stacy is shorter so who's shorter out of you and I
think it depends with the hair I think that
I feel like I'm look let's not play that game I think we're about equal height so but I think that I'll be Stacy and you can be Christy I think potentially I am Stacy just had a wedding in New York yeah which
now that she's done that that rules out brain are doing it obviously because I need to well we're going to hashtag Bay right but we're going to New York very soon so
yeah maybe we can recreate it we'll see what happens yeah so talk show yeah
it's a daily talk show everyone I'm I'm off to go back to my Airbnb and
get this episode up. And tj. I'll see you tomorrow.