- July 19, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday July 19 (Ep 133) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Being hassled by telemarketers, witnessing a car crash and getting a tour of a radio station.
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket it's a daily Talk Show Episode 133 coming at you yeah you were told me to go to the Vatican
yesterday yeah well
when you are in Rome and when in Rome
so really why is there from that place so many little sayings that dad side
the When in Rome thing yeah yeah it's one of those ones where it's like even when we're not in Rome in Italy yeah we do a bit of win in Florence winning the Tuscany and now Yeah,
of course you've taken to a new level he's taking a whole new winning when in fountain gate shopping center
the things your doctor in fountain you
know, I probably gotten a bit gun shy being in Rome and actually using the one in Rome. I think I used it more
before we got here.
That's okay. You don't want to come across just for anyone. If you This is the first episode you've ever listened to of the daily talk show. I'm currently sitting in my lounge room in St Kilda in Melbourne. And Josh is on the other side of the world.
And we do the show five days a week. And it hasn't always been like this. It hasn't just been some sort of relationship building over face time recording. It's you this is unique. So you're you're traveling for quite a few months. And I told you get yourself to the Vatican if you're in a row. And did you do resetting? Geez, we haven't raised done a reset in a while. Probably makes a lot more sense for people now who's running it? Well, I'm excited I am excited when to get back in my back in person and we've got a studio and all that sort of thing I will say I've secretly been thinking myself every time I speak to you fact I hope he just says or yeah we're going to actually cut it short because
I'm back into it and it's not that I don't want you to have a good time Don't get me wrong I get it
I was I was listening I was listening to what now Derek the podcast by dirty Derek someone who had on the show and one of our dear friends of the show and he was talking about the daily talk show and specifically I think he's cutting back to maybe doing he show once a week and he's actually got a new episode out today. This thirst like Thursday today. He was he was a he was going to be bringing on an episode so
it was that all the story was
not it was it was just a direct message in the fact that I that I was traveling said that he wouldn't he wouldn't have COPD if him and I were doing the show why I was traveling he he refers to us as young blood though is
I haven't got the energy of you young boys
know I'd Derek I've been sick for four weeks. And this is a pain in my ass. But I love it. I think it's good fun. It is weird. Has something can be a pain in the ass at times. But then you love it.
It's like, I think everything is up and down. This is such a cliche to think that something that you know, will bring you success or move you forward or stimulate. You will always be great. And this is the this is a this is an example in the making. Yeah, it's hitting me. You know, it reminds me of the the feelings that I have for this podcast. Probably I have the same feelings with going to the gym. And it this is proof to me is that if I just create the expectation that I show up and I do it, then it becomes easier because currently it's six, six. I am in Rome. It's to 2pm in in Melbourne. I fucked it up yesterday. I said when it was 3pm. I said oh, six was actually seven. I am in Rome. And yeah, it means like putting on an alarm clock to wake up in the morning of the only thing the only responsibility I really have is to do this podcast. But yeah,
it's good fun. It's funny when you start doing something how CLIA
the the roadmap becomes. And this came when yesterday, or we actually went to Derek's podcasting space with a friend of mine, who I'm
assisting in finding him Is it sounded like the way that you would just hang with a friend of mine, it sounded like you were trying to cover up the fact that you've got a new co host Come on who I have a podcast with.
This is one of my best mates. He's wants to start a podcast. He's been in radio before and and I was like, yeah, maybe you can record from Derek's space. And you know, they can get you going. But then I just we had this conversation, we had this conversation around creating a podcast, and then you start hearing all the barriers come up and on one on one side of the coin, you can be empathetic to these reasons and the other side, you know, be a bit of a hard ass and just not they're all just bullshit fucking, you know, excuses as to why you're not doing it. And they, I mean, for me, it's like, and what ways do you know not the way the epitome of success in that sense, but we've been showing up. And so it's like, my, in my head is like, showing up is the only thing you need to focus on for a period the time because then that showing up becomes the norm. And, and, and what I'm saying is that, like, it's so clear when you start showing up, like, I don't know how I even even being able to show up to do this. And it wouldn't have been if I was doing it by myself, I couldn't have shown up
No way. And so when you have someone there to do it, you will do it in the car cafe or Mac is or you know, any way you think me to the other thing, too, is probably people are comparing themselves. Like it's, it's like me comparing myself to a bodybuilder when I haven't yet gone to the gym. And in the sense of people look at other podcasts or they strike they're like, man, I'd love to be, you know, doing bodybuilding competitions, but they're not yet even going, you know, daily or, you know, going regularly to the gym. And so, so I think that that's also the the interesting barrier. But definitely the stuff like this is the one of the first this time so I've done something consistently that it hasn't been like checking Instagram in my life. So it's good to be able to do and we're not getting paid and also thing Yeah,
but I'm getting a sense that you wanting to go to the gym. You've mentioned bodybuilding and another gym metaphor. So
I've been thinking about the little bit Yep, pre actually started. She started doing like a daily workout type of thing where she watched some videos and stuff and I was like hearing a like I was in the shower The other day I heard some like panting other she's crying or something. And then it just turns out she was doing a
workout. But you know, I've been thinking about it a bit, because I know I've been thinking about it, because I'm, I feel like I said the song. Yes, I show. I feel like I've been leaning out and I've literally been eating pizza enchilada. But I've been doing like 20,000 steps a day. Yeah,
I mean, the dangerous thing about that is you end up seeing how little muscle you have not being main but that's what's happening. Right. It's like you're losing body fat and you're getting thinner and thinner and it just shows Yeah, it's like this
so upper bodies the upper body strength that I just need because I think that my legs
quite strong just from the amount of
walking and stuff that I'm doing. I don't know if that if that wouldn't any muscle it makes it makes sense to the degree that you Your body is strong for this the size that it is but if you were 150 kilos you legs would actually be stronger than they are now because they're having to
Yeah exactly. That's what I'm saying. I think because I am a little bit like I have been heavy in the past and I was like I feel like that's all my links have been the easiest thing to
like a pretty lane and get get pretty strong
yeah but feels good. It feels good bang lane like you You legit feel like you've got to be your engine in a smaller car. Yeah,
absolutely. Now so I'm feeling so yeah I think I'll
start tacking on to brace workouts and just doing some some basic stuff and the other thing that's happened is on the first week of doing all the the walking my back was so sore because I've had back problems in the past and it's all gone away which is awesome that's good so I've got like no it's probably because I'm not like at a desk all day but yeah no back issues all that stuff so I feel like I'm in a good spot to start hashtag lifting so I might buy some like big water bottles and start like you know putting them all together and pumping them awesome shit
just bringing the loop back back around the Vatican closing the loop yeah
the Vatican You told me to go and we did plan to go Where we going? What would you say breezy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are going into ours we are we are heading off which is why we have to be up early and have our bags packed from the from the hotel because we were leaving this hotel we're often Naples today by trying but ya know we did plan to go to the Vatican yesterday and we went to a cat the cafe that pre had done the research on
beforehand which was this anomaly I've spoken to this spoken about this before normally when I'm traveling I'm opposed to trying to find really good coffee or shit that's basically what Melman has to offer like a brain I've have done New York
few times and we multiple times have ended at places where they serve Vegemite and it drives me saying yeah I
ended up at that joint one of those joints too so you're getting you going for the gunpowder coffee that is just out of some hundred year old machine and and you you want to have the full experience it's good
I agree. Yes, it is. So
it's out of your comfort zone right yeah.
basically Yeah, we went to a place it was a little bit more sort of different to Italian food in the sense of it that we had like a was like a smashed Evo but had our lives in a had sprouts I had
the time it was like a Middle Eastern sort of thing. It was really good. And if you've just listened to this podcast for the first time, Josh usually does a food update on what is consumed it's his way of showing up. And you know, it's never been an official segment. It has never been an official segment but I'm happy to say if you listen watch yesterday's Insta story will also have a word of the day I've currently got I've got my Kindle here and at some point will be pulling out the anointing is I haven't had enough time to do research on the specific word so I'll be pressing on it and hopefully that I can pronounce it because I haven't had a chance to that's that's the evidence that embodies our show
I was just thinking because you've you've had about four different phone numbers while you're away so I didn't I was gonna say this to you before we got on the show but I'll say it now if you send me anything within the text message space and expect me to remember where it is within four different numbers you kidding yourself
Yeah you can start using WhatsApp it's one centralized space okay let's use hotel but I've seen when I was in the states and I had a American number I remember getting like random calls from people and it was more just I think they'll just stumbling across or putting in the wrong number and you know high is Janet there was that Jana is that you
have you got any phone calls from anyone on one one missed call but I feel like yeah that is a very common for the US I think a lot of times maybe they reuse numbers or something on a more regular basis so I definitely have received a bunch of text messages from people thinking it's someone else's fine have you know telemarketers. Now not nothing in nothing in Italy? But yeah, as you said, I had to because we're doing this show and I need to make sure that I've got data this is quite data heavy, sending video and audio and doing all that sort of stuff. The
yeah I've just gone through lots of data and they don't with Vodafone Italy, you can't just it's not as easy just to recharge with data lay on the give you a really special all amount to recharge. So I went in there yesterday. And they said you've used 15 gigs in like a week and a half. And she was sort of shocked. She thought there must be some sort of mistake and she was expecting me to still be like, complain or say are impossible. I was like, yeah, now I did.
What should I do? And I just said to get a get a completely new Sim. js. It's like,
it's like it is cheaper to replace your whole entire iPhone through insurance than it is to replace the screen when you smash it. It's absolutely ridiculous. This is a bit of a tech question for you
guys. How on earth because I just did a speed test before we started this what this is it seems though GMA, you do a speed test through Google, it came up on my end with downloads, bit of 25.2 upload of 16.8. That's just with Google. I then went to a Telstra specific speed test on their website and I ran it download 44.6 upload 20.9 same connection minutes apart and Telstra it really milked the numbers Yeah, there's
a saying I have a double the connection almost. So I think I think this is my this is my stab at it. I think the way that the speed tests work ease you are connecting to another server and that server will then you you're essentially downloading a file and then uploading a file and then it's saying how quick that is. And so what Telstra if you're with Telstra, Telstra would be able to have optimized servers that are close basically there's a strong connection I did not sure if this is 100% true but my vibe Trevor long can jump in. But my vibe with that doing any research into it would say that Telstra would be able to give you an optimized connection that's really close to you and that's going to give you a high high speeds but they're all the the reality of what your actual speed is versus a speed test will even be different again because surface there in different parts of the world where if you're doing a speed test you'd be doing a speed test locally you'll notice if you go to speed test.net they're finding the closest server that that to test from Can you so I'm running my internet and this coal through the fastest network in Australia Can you just quickly do a speed test on your laptop for the mobile phone internet that you've got there were no I'll do I'll do it at the end as a trait because if I do it now I'm worried what will happen is when you when you're doing a speed test you're essentially smashing the system for a few seconds to see united how much data you know you can push and pull the problem with that is our call will probably fuck up is I'll do it I'll do it at the very end as a as a nice weekend. And just in case we can play loose.
I appreciate that because I did it while we're on the call and
deck is that it's equivalent
of saying do it how flammable Do you think the building is just like a little fire on the corner how we go
just bring you back to the telly market is this it's so savage on my end and humane is in savages in just constant relentless just. Yeah, just just coming down hard on me. I don't know where they've got my number from. And it seems a bunch of my mates have got the same issue.
And so I'm a bit like when when they call and I know it is because I don't know if sometimes they calling through a like a landline or it seems like a mobile number. And I think it going to be a client. And so I'm just very cagey like I I pick up the phone just. I just do something we'd all like just a set them. Well, I just
I hold for a second. And so before they say anything. And a lot of the time they have my you know is Mr. jacket there? Or is that is that Tommy? Hello. Is that Tommy and so I could be mad. But this is this is the flow on effect of what's happening. I got a call last week and I picked it up and I didn't know the number Hello. Just very, very like brief. Hello. And then the like. Hi Tommy. And I just had this weed back and forth where they would have thought I was the biggest weirdo on earth and because I was convinced it was a telemarketer and it was a client
oh I just went into this thing about this oh man I'm so sorry I've been getting handed how they say
funny well you also have the extra problem of being where you park your car if you park later in the day you have to park people in so you need to then leave your phone number on the dashboard so you'll get a rant you need to answer the call because you'll get a random person calling who you have no idea who has been like hey make a movie car exactly so yeah I'm getting all sorts of course I actually thought the Vatican the Vatican I haven't I haven't I haven't been on the Vatican my that you don't know why I haven't been so i i'd only gotten part to the story to the story where I would had a beautiful breakfast but as we were walking back we were planning on going to the Vatican yes i anyway we're going over going over a bridge sort of the breakfast spot was 15 minutes from our hotel room in a quiet area will coming back we'll probably 20 1520
minutes away from the Vatican walking over this sort of small one line bridge there's sort of parked cars on the side of the bridge and then there's
we're getting close to the end of the bridge where people were turning on and as we're getting closer we see this cast speed around a corner and slam it side into a parked car the mirror goes flying the old the pert the car wheel smashes in there's all debris on the road and the car that did it doesn't run know and so we so we so I got my my phone out and I got photos and then as I as I do of the of the red Joe plight of the car model like really had to quickly zoom in and take the photos each quiz happy that I got yeah I was pretty proud of myself actually
hang on we using you one day that can take you
know hundred photos a second Could you imagine if I had my one day This was actually even better because I had with the iPhone it's got the live function so I could literally go through frame by frame and find an image that had the clearest
shot of the number plate it worked really well yes but what would you do what would you do in that situation Do you think you would you would you contact someone like would you leave a know what would be your app tactic
I I left a note on someone's window where I saw just this dude who just reversed into a car in a car park and I just did you get the number I had a go at the old dude who did it yes I my ego to sign anything and he just like just yeah I'll block couldn't give a shit and so I left my number on the windscreen of the car and said I saw someone reverse into you if I've got the details if you need me to be a witness gimme does and Tobago never called bizarre interest. So that I think that just paints
what I'd do. Somehow. The old bloke I wonder if they came back and took it up. Yeah, took it off. And then it gave it gave your number two all the telly market is living with it ever since. You You little fucking idiot
as he takes
you just doing that we're doing an accent man. Yeah,
here's an old Russian guy.
I'm going to close the loop on
the on the accent. It was in balaclava. The worst drivers in Melbourne or invalid.
Interesting, I didn't. I didn't know that. This one's on the freeway. It's it's,
it's it's my data that I've collected. And my dad
just a small sample small size. But the so we ended up but I was standing there with Brian like, what do we do? And all our internet had stopped working because I'd been
using too much. And it didn't give me any warning or anything. So I didn't have any phone to use to be able to call or to use data. I probably could have called something bad know what to call in English anyway. And someone was walking past and we had a quick conversation with him. And he was like, yeah, that person like crazy. He couldn't speak much English, obviously. Because Italy and
he said, Yeah, you should go to the police out whatever. Like he was sort of broken place. Yeah. And so I was trying to Google obviously Google wasn't working and then some ladies from three stories up on a building yelled out
they they couldn't hear me so came down to the to the ground for floor and start speaking Italian. I said you're not a copy skull italiano and she said link lazy and I said see. And then she had another person that came was speaking English. And she got all the the details. And then a guy came up to me said I wear a radio station would you like
would you like a Petula? And at this point and Pitchfork appeared
Josh his pants any digital chubby? It was. It was very excited. Is that really a phrase? PayPal? Use a pitch fork in your pants. And why Pitchfork? It's more because of you. Because you're the dog with three dicks. So it actually would be pitch for
a pitchfork holding up the tent.
Ah, okay. Of course. Yeah, because it looks like when I think of Pitchfork I think of three Yeah, I do to maybe a fact that that the way we got there, is that really a phrase that people use to describe an erection? pitch a tent? Yeah, because when you're a little kid and I pitched to
me nothing that
see everyone's gonna go back to this. I can't remember what episode where you brother tells the story of one of your early burners to where you dad had to Hoshi down with cold water out
anyway, yeah. The show's gotten smarty sorry, everyone bit
yeah. So And anyway, he ended up doing me a tour they were a the voice of hope. They had like four, four or five studios around Europe. They like a Christian
radio station was just sighs money I got so I'll put it on our institute, Instagram. But I got photos of me in the studio. And yeah, it was just one of those those moments where I was like, oh, because I could have just been like, Man, it's too hard to do anything in this circumstance. I'm just gonna walk off. And then just because I had it in my mind that it would have been really cool when traveling to go and do some research and speak to some podcast studios or some radio stations. And just for that to happen was pretty
telling you about telling me about the dude who put all of our intro together.
He was in New York, he did some tours of the radio stations over there. Yeah, I mean, there's less of a language barrier. That's, that's awesome. What. So what it looked like, it probably was better than the station I worked at, and ship it in. The
commercial was telling. I was telling Brian that it had, it had definitely had SPS or something. vines. They weren't they didn't have a heap of coin. I was trying to impress him with my microphone knowledge. I was like, ah, era 21 of my favorite microphones and he didn't you didn't say anything so then a few seconds let me like I the electro voice re 20 love that much
again. Yeah, he could. But he was it was a presenter so I don't think he gave a fuck about what the microphones
but I was just, I was feeling the the soundproofing that used, I was like looking at my car, what are they, what are they running for? audio processing? So they they live streaming? Or what's the deal? No, said that. No. So they've got they've got frequency. So they've got a standard radio frequency that I've got a satellite internet streaming and there's five studios around Europe set up basically like, you know, similar to a networked show in in Australia, they sort of you know, he's the equivalent of the high mission and the driving home but for for the for the Christians. I really like a sect of Christian Christian I'm not going to go into it because I'll that I'll fuck it up. They
a lot less smart than the daily talk show. Yeah,
less smart. But I did. I was very excited and said, I actually have a podcast and I didn't. Sorry if you heard that noise. braces. Opening a wooden covered it sounds a bit like a fart.
We've got five water bottles is nicknamed her ass all as the wooden
wooden covered praise the nickname but we do have we what Ray was just pointing out is we I bought all these like one liter bottles of water. And
we carried them all the way back to the hotel we leave today. And we've got like, four of them left. So we need to like drink. So I'm gonna need a pis so much good at the Vatican is a good good toilets at the Vatican. No. Do not go hard on water. just consume what you what you need. Don't. Don't be silly. You're leaving. Just make How much were they? one euro? Yeah. less sense from the it's
actually ridiculous. I did the exact same thing. I left water at hotels constantly. Because you you want to have more than you need. But then it probably gets thrown out so it's counterproductive.
You ready for my
word of the day?
I was thinking maybe I do one
that he's got. Amen. I've got so many night dive. I think it close your eyes. And okay. And hit the screen. And maybe we can learn this one word. Here we go.
I'm just trying to think of the ones that can actually say okay. Always say word. And you can tell me what you think it means. Okay. Yeah. And then errant at our our AI n. t. errant errant.
what came to mind was like irrelevant errands. So it's you might be used in a in a time where that's that's errant. So isn't it? It's no good. It's useless. It's irrelevant.
Okay. It is an adjective which if you listen to last
week's episode, you realize that means nothing to us. But it's a
airing I think it's airing AR AR I nj earning or straying from the accepted coals or standards. an errand husband coming back from a night on the tiles. I've never heard of a night on the tiles before aren't they? Yeah um
going so well. I'm trying I was trying to work out what that phrase means. And not on the tiles
I guess it just means being out and about on the town being bit loose but I found the this was it was from the book that I'm reading all the noise of living in a Tuscan Hilltown and the context in which he used it was minus still a mess. And I do not like to think about the amount of time I have wasted searching for errant measuring tapes and hammers. So that makes a lot more sense now.
So it's basically like shit that's not in their place. They've gone rogue loose. Yeah, there we go. errant here. I like it. I probably would never use it though. It that to me doesn't have as have enough punch probably make you seem smart. That the person you use it in a conversation with would be like just constantly trying to think about what the fact you just said and what that means. Yeah, so there
you go. And just as a bonus one, given my going to the Vatican a didn't want a convent is I've always gone to Abbotsford convent and people have told me what it companies but sadly, I always forgot the actual meaning content. I thought like a I thought it was a place where nuns would correctly guide a Christian community of nones living together under monastic vows. Yes okay yeah maybe I'll say one of the valley Can I maybe that's what the Vatican is we never know it will be closing some loops it's one
be it's a city of that yeah
yeah How is its own fucking It's its own
state right yeah
it's ridiculous one Fun fact when I was there
I saw the pope he he was we were hoping to say the pope yes that because it was Wednesday but then the whole car crash thing I don't even know if they if they ended up if he ended up coming out what was the like to was the night that I hi Tommy listening I didn't
didn't High Five him he wasn't in he was on a on the back of a wagon but he didn't have his full bulletproof thing on well i mean you know from all accounts a good guy he what he's not the pope anymore so I mean
I really the hard part yeah hey while
you pull up your speed test and we do this film The show when I was flying out of Rome I I just sat down right at the front of the guide to get onto the plane and big line formed and it was huge It was a Ryanair flight so I was like people just wanting to get straight on and I sat down and these two
not cool i don't think their pastors priests these young guys came and sat next to me and they're in their full get up so you could totally tell that they were you know part of the Catholic Church and we got talking and now we get you know spoke English yeah we're from this part of Italy and we just came to see the pope on Wednesday and blah blah blah and so we got along really well and we're just chatting and then the lines start to move and as I fact I don't want to wait to the end because I want to get my seat on the plane because it was the flight I was on was best in best dressed and so the these two priests got up and I I got up with them and we just moved into the front of the line nice
yes that's the yeah that's what I get for giving their life to what if I fucking say the whole religion thing I am I did a downloads and uploads tests 50 megabits down 15 app in saying that I'm currently using the hotel Wi Fi which is really strong but I'm going for I'm preparing for being in Naples and what that's going to be like but the thing is tomorrow it won't be coming live from Rome and cinco that instead it will be an episode with Nicole who we recorded a few weeks ago in Collingwood McCall's an interesting blog
well interesting to say the least. He was in jail with chopper raid. He was a heroin addict and now he's kicking ass when people get claim he's had center in Melbourne that helps hundreds of people. Hundreds and hundreds of people. Yeah, get off drugs. And yeah,
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