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Tommy: Wait a minute! Crossface, the Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Jackett.

Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show, episode 125. What's going on?

Tommy: How are we? I haven't spoken to you. I mean, this is Monday. Yeah, it's been the whole weekend. What the fuck is up?

Josh: I know, it's— Well, because on Fridays we have our interview episode and we had Leon Shergrin on the show. So, yeah, it's been since Thursday since we've had a chat.

Tommy: And you've currently relocated. I'm in the same place as always. I'm in Collingwood in HQ holding down the fort. And you, where are you now?

Josh: I'm currently in Florence. It is just after 6 AM here. On Monday morning.

Tommy: Beautiful.

Josh: It gets— it's the sunrises, I think about 5:30. So, it's— yeah, it's beautiful. I'm looking out this hotel that we're staying at, which is called Hotel Golf in Florence. And—

Tommy: Has it got anything to do with the sport golf?

Josh: Well, I don't know, but I will show you. Have a look at the key ring that comes with—

Tommy: Yes, it does. It's a golf ball. It's a golf ball on the end of a key ring.

Josh: It's giving Bri the shits having to We ended up just handing it to reception every time we went out because it's like quite a heavy key ring to have to deal with. But—

Tommy: How annoying.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Now, Florence is one of my favourite Italian cities. It's great.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What have you loved? Just a little quick update on it. What have I loved? What's been your vibe?

Josh: Oh, man, I've just been just constantly eating. There's been a lot of eating going on and—

Tommy: I can tell.

Josh: And just walking, man, I feel like I've leaned— I haven't— weighed myself, but I reckon I've leaned out 'cause I haven't done less than 20,000 steps since we've been away.

Tommy: Yeah, that wasn't a dig at your visual weight. I've seen your Instagram, mate. It's just, you've become a food blogger.

Josh: I haven't even posted my food on Instagram. I feel like—

Tommy: Are you getting shushed? You're getting shushed.

Josh: I'm actually getting shushed. Can you hear that? Breathe in.

Tommy: Yeah, I can hear that.

Josh: Bree's asleep. She apologised the other day because she said, "Josh," halfway through the episode. Yeah, 'cause Bree is currently asleep.

Tommy: So, if you've just— this is your first episode of The Daily Talk Show, Josh and I have been doing it for over 6 months now, every weekday, and Josh is now traveling. So, this is a massive commitment on Bree's behalf, not yours. Bree's sleeping every episode 'cause it's currently like 6:00 AM where you are.

Josh: Yeah. So, what's been happening? What have I missed?

Tommy: Well, I'm getting sick again. I said to Amy my cold's had a rebrand because Amy got sick from me and then I caught whatever Amy got and I was thinking these things have like a different brand every time. So, it's like my cold's just rebranded.

Josh: A bit more snotty-nosed this time or what's—

Tommy: Yeah, it's not good. It's not good, but Bodhi and I, we went swimming on Saturday morning. We woke up and I wanted to give Amy some time to just recover because she hasn't been well.

Josh: Indoor swimming, I'm guessing, with the weather?

Tommy: Oh, bloody oath. Yeah, yeah, we went to the Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre, MSAC, and so packed his bag. He was going mental, and so I was just wanting to get him out, and he loves swimming. So we drive there 15 minutes, park the car, it's freezing cold, like raining. It's the complete opposite of where you are right now. And we got into this pool. I paid my $11 for us to both get in, went to the change rooms. I forgot his fucking pajamas. No, not his pajamas. I forgot he was in his pajamas. I forgot his swimmers. Oh no, I forgot his bathers. So there's no— there was no swimming.

Josh: $11, is that like a— is that a standard cost? Do you have to pay that for Bodhi as well as you?

Tommy: No, it's just a one-person cost.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And Bodhi gets in free.

Josh: Oh, perfect.

Tommy: Far out. If you split that down the middle, it's a bit more reasonable per person.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But it's outrageous. So we forgot the— we forgot the— anyway, ended up going back on the Sunday and, um, and he, and he loved it. But I had this conversation with this dude. It's so funny when you become a parent, you, you observe other people Like James, our good mate, I'll say now.

Josh: Yeah. If we transitioned into— though this is big news. Stop everyone. If you've just joined us, James has been Tommy's best mate for the good part of 20 years. And I've mentioned multiple times that I am now in fact James's mate. I've transitioned into that point and it's now official. Episode 125.

Tommy: You've never had the boys and finally you've got the boys.

Josh: Yeah, I'm very excited. What are we gonna do? What should we do?

Tommy: Get t-shirts with woof woof on them and go out drinking.

Josh: I'll organise stickers. I'll organise— we could have an aperol together.

Tommy: You may get bashed if you do that. That's what we do. We bash the new kid who's coming into the group. No, so yeah, I was speaking to James. He's had the baby. He's had a baby around the same time. And you just pick up on a lot of stuff and you have these conversations you wouldn't normally think that you'd ever be in. And it's just usually with other parents and it's just about kids' stuff. And it's weird 'cause you don't even think that you'd ever be in this situation. Anyway, I was talking to this old man in the, it's like a hydro pool and it's really warm. You'd actually like it. It's a, yeah, anyway, we're talking and he's just, oh, you know, and he just was talking to me, he had like 3 kids that were all grown up and he said, you know, it's just having boys is great, but there's nothing like having a baby girl, it's beautiful. And I was like, yeah, yeah. And he said, you know, she's beautiful, just talking about Bodhi. And he just went on and I didn't stop the old, the old comment.

Josh: You know why?

Tommy: And he was just—

Josh: because of his fucking mullet. How many times do I have to tell you to cut his mullet?

Tommy: We're not cutting his mullet. It is amazing. It's— he's transitioning that into a full, uh, ponytail, so he'll continue. He's a pretty boy. That's why I think they— but he was just like, you know what, the boys, they love their mummies, but the girls, they, you know, they, they love their daddies. So we're 'Well done, mate, you've done so well.' I couldn't break it to him.

Josh: I'd be so embarrassed if I was you. I know it's not something to really be embarrassed about, but I feel like that would really embarrass me.

Tommy: Yeah, so Bodhi and I got out of the pool, pulled our pants down, flashed him our dicks and said, 'Sucker, you've just been dick-punked.' Yeah, it was pretty cool. Yeah, it was a slow weekend. Very cold here in Melbourne.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But it's, yeah, it's nice indoor weather.

Josh: You're really good. You're good at speaking with strangers, which would be very handy on like this trip that I'm currently on if I had you around to speak to people. But what's your fear?

Tommy: What do you— It's not a fear.

Josh: It's probably the opposite of a fear.

Tommy: It's a love, but you don't do it?

Josh: No, it's just like, it's a— I just, I don't know. I just don't feel— Yeah, maybe, maybe it is a fear. I don't know. Just interacting with people unless it's a must. But the thing that's been driving me crazy at the moment is the people on the street who are like— I know I've spoken about being sort of hustled before, but the one that's very common in Florence is these guys come up to you and they sort of put a bracelet on your arm and then basically ask for coin. And I'd just made a purchase at H&M, bought some sockets as part of the continuing the Josh Janson rebrand. And he, um, uh, this guy came up to me and he said something. He asked me how I was going, and I didn't know what— what would you do in that moment? Would you engage?

Tommy: I'd be so annoyed. I'd see, as much as I talk to strangers, I also will tell them how, how it is. Like, if I get— if— no, no, no, I don't stop for those Yeah. You know, beggars, it's like this fine line where you engage, you feel sorry for them, but that's their whole ploy. They're looking for the person that feels sorry to then get the cash out of them.

Josh: That's what I'm trying to work out, because I literally wrote down on Travelo, I was thinking about it over the weekend. You, just before we went away, we were on a shoot and we walked past a guy. And as we were walking past, you just before you got to him, you stopped and you got some money out. And I was thinking, oh, Tommy's going to give this guy some money. This is interesting. And you gave him some money and then you had this conversation with him. And I was like, I was not shocked, but I was like intrigued. It questioned my own sort of, you know, the way that I do things. I don't really do that. And I felt it opened my eyes to like, oh, you know, being nice to people, having a conversation, that type of thing.

Tommy: So, that guy that you're talking about, he was a homeless guy who lives in St. Kilda. So, it's my cousin. It's— He's— No, I know a bit about him. I've had a few conversations with him. So, I was surprised to see him in the city and it turned out that he'd been kicked out of St. Kilda and he wasn't allowed to sleep in Ackland Street anymore. So, he— He moved out.

Josh: So how do you build that relationship then? So how do you, like, obviously there is a point where you are going to have a conversation with him.

Tommy: See, this is, I met him through Amy.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: He's Amy's mate. No, did I, do you know about, what's his name? Far out. Oh God, let's call him Bob until I remember his name. Amy had this homeless friend called Bob. Who lived under the train bridge.

Josh: I love how you've just really committed to his name. You've set it up as this is not his name, and then you've gone, ha, whose name's Bob? Whose name's Bob?

Tommy: I'll remember, it's on the tip of my tongue. I know. And so he'd been living— he'd been homeless for 25, 30 years, and Amy had befriended him, and he was really lovely. And sure, he smelt like metho when you went close to him, Um, but he obviously had his problems, and Amy became quite good friends with him. She would buy him like DVDs because he had, he had this car parked next to his home under the— like he had like, it was basically his, his backyard was underneath the train bridge next to this power box.

Josh: But you're saying he had a DVD player? Because otherwise it'd be very cool. He's got 150 DVDs.

Tommy: Yes, he had a DVD player and it was a little portable one with the screen. And so yeah, she would buy him stuff, but she once went there and he was cooking. And I can imagine your reaction to this. He offered her some chicken and she— he cooked it in front of her and gave her some chicken. And I said, why the fuck did you eat that?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But, and, and I think this just shows the difference between me and Amy. I'm thinking, oh yuck, that's disgusting. You don't know if it's dirty or not.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But she was really good friends with this guy and he would always like give her wine. And immediately you think, my mind goes, sex pest, like, fucking watch out, this guy's home. Like stereotyping, yeah, like no tomorrow. And in some cases it might be fair, but I met him and he was actually really lovely. And she tried to help him get some housing and like organise an appointment, and he ended up just not wanting it. He'd just been on the streets for over 20 years. He had kids. Anyway, so Amy is one to engage, you know, she's got sponsored children. She's got— who actually one ran away.

Josh: Um, she's got— I mean, they ran away.

Tommy: Yeah, you know, you, you might back in the day, might not now, but you go over to friends' houses and they've got like their sponsored child photo. Yeah, on their fridge. So she had one and he ran away. He fled the village.

Josh: And so they were just like, hey, so they just said, hey, did they give, give her a new child or what's the protocol?

Tommy: I don't know. I don't know what happened to, to the little fella. But yeah, so Amy engages. Yeah. And so when we went, so if anything, I'm more like ignore, ignore, not trying to be an asshole, but if you, if you acknowledge one Why aren't you acknowledging all? Or, you know, like if you start, it's gonna be this never-ending cycle, especially in Europe. So when we were there, Amy found it really tough 'cause in Italy especially, there's a lot of homeless. And there's a lot of people, especially when you get down to like towards Sorrento, there's some pretty like dodgy places down there and dodgy meaning just people are desperate. And so that's where there's more and more homeless and, gypsies on the train, and, um, they're just— yeah, it's pretty wild. And so Amy would engage, and I just have to tell her, please stop, don't, don't, don't. And it's this fine line of being nice or being an asshole. I think that you have to go this in between, because if you— if you— yeah, there's a lot of devastation in the world, and if you— and if you thought about it all or stopped to try to give it your time, you would have no time.

Josh: Well, I had the same conversation with Bree where she, um I showed her like a perfect example. I told her not to engage and then I— we saw as soon as she said, "No, thank you," or like said something back, straight away they start engaging and they start walking with you. But the interesting one with this guy outside of H&M is I didn't— I was on my own, didn't really— I was trying to work out. I was standing still. It wasn't like I was walking. I was waiting for Bri out the front. So, I was going to be there for a while. And so, I just sort of paused for a second and then just said, "No English." And then he said, "Italian?" And I just sort of shook my head. He said, "German?" I shook my head. He said, "French?" I just shook my head. And then he ended.

Tommy: He walked off. What the fuck was that guy?

Josh: Yeah, I know. So, I was going to, yeah, I feel like I need maybe a better cover story. I was thinking of saying that like Bahasa Indonesian, because it feels like it's obscure enough, maybe.

Tommy: Yeah, interesting. I think there's, yeah, if you were a really sensitive person travelling through Europe, it would be very hard for you. It's, and mate, imagine going to India.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Like, It is, you know, there's uber rich. My friend who lived in India was saying that he lived in a compound and this was in New Delhi. And he said that the rich people driving Lamborghinis down dirt fucking roads that should be driven with four-wheel drives, like they just don't give a shit. There's like, and then next minute there's like hundreds of homeless people on the street. So that, I mean, it's hard. Yeah.

Josh: Well, I did have one thought, but I, I feel like this is not okay. And I feel like you might be a good sort of moral compass. I was going to pretend, like I was thinking about afterwards. I'm like, how could I get out of this without having to say anything? And then I thought, what about if I pretend that I'm deaf?

Tommy: No, mate, this is the equivalent of pretending that you're disabled in a disabled park. You can't do it. I think you just have to go. I can't spread my— like, do something good in your life so that you can feel okay about just not engaging with the gypsies in Europe.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Donate, get a sponsored child, buy a goat.

Josh: Okay. So, you think if I buy a goat, I can just ignore everyone? And that's probably better than pretending that you're deaf. Because I did think that.

Tommy: Yeah, I reckon. I think that's the go. It sounds horrible, but you can't engage with everybody. It would be a hard trip.

Josh: Straight after, I told the guy I didn't speak English. He went to this family and they were an American family. There was like a couple and the two kids and they were like real smiley. Like he comes up and says, "Oh, hey." That's what he said. He said to me, he said, "Americana?" Like, "Are you from America?" And he did the same thing to this family and they were like, "Yeah," and they're like big smiles. And then he like gets— goes to his bag and he puts the bracelet around on all the kids. And then you— I'm just watching from a distance and then you see like them being awkward and standing there for a bit and he's sort of real close to them. And then sure enough, like the dad has to go to his backpack and get out cash. I got photos of it. I could put one on. The Insta story.

Tommy: Have you seen any of the, like, near the train station, Firenze train station? There's like a bunch of these dudes line the streets with these like sunglass and bag stalls. And then when someone, someone, and then there's like a police officer walks and they just like fold up their table and run off. Have you seen that?

Josh: I haven't seen them. I haven't seen them run off, but I have seen so many pop-up tables. I've seen so many of the pop-up tables or the Yeah, laying out all of the bits and bobs.

Tommy: Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Another thing, I haven't even admitted this to Amy, so she's hearing it for the first time.

Josh: I accused her of having bad breath, and I was just kind of leaving the house. Always goes down well when you say that, doesn't it?

Tommy: Yeah, but I accused her, and And then realised that I got to the car, it was Bode's bad breath.

Josh: Better than yours.

Tommy: Yeah, I'm paranoid.

Josh: Yeah. One of the best trolls is if I accuse Bree of farting and she said, "No, maybe it's breath." You know, it's a real troll.

Tommy: Oh my God. So, when we were living in Shepparton, when I was living in Shepparton and Amy would come from Sydney, and fly to Melbourne, then come up to Shepparton on the bus. Um, she was staying over and we were sitting on the couch and we— I live with my friend Kel, who I think you've met.

Josh: Yeah, um, good friends. Anyway, we're sitting on Instagram. Friends.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, he's part of that.

Josh: He's got glasses, um, likes to write.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. What is this, guess who?

Josh: No, I'm describing my mate Kel.

Tommy: So anyway, Amy's sitting on my lap, we're watching TV, Kel's sitting next to me on a two-seater. And you think, I think I just got to stop fucking accusing people of having bad breath because I was thinking Amy's breath is fucked. And turned out that she was thinking Tommy's breath is fucked. So we're both thinking it, we hadn't said anything to each other, and then she said, can you smell that? And at that point I'd been thinking about it, so I was like, yeah, yeah, I thought that was your breath.

Josh: If this storey ends in it was Kel's breath, I feel very bad for Kel right now.

Tommy: No, no. So I was like, then what is that? And I was sniffing around. I said, can you stand up, Amy? And I was sniffing the couch, and then smelt— Nick, I lifted up the couch.

Josh: Don't sniff the couch.

Tommy: No, I lifted up the cushion on the couch. There is a fucking dead mouse that I had killed by sitting down because it was— it had crawled underneath the, uh, the cushion. And so we're accusing each other of bad breath and it was a dead mouse that was smelling.

Josh: That is— that's revolting.

Tommy: We were in like a new estate, like a new, new house. And so what had happened, we got a mouse plague. Did you know that that shit happens? Like, you fully got a mouse plague that just moved into the house and there was like 10 or 15 mice living because they really sort of—

Josh: they're like, we're gonna, we're gonna squat.

Tommy: Yeah, well, there was like some paddocks around it that were all like— you could imagine like a little bunch of mice running through. And so they just got in and it was warm, and then one dumbass mouse got up under the— underneath the cushion. That's so gross.

Josh: It reminds me, but having a, um, a mouse squashed reminded me of a story, um, that my mum would tell when she was a kid. And, um, There is— it's pretty horrible actually, but there was a kid who loved their dog and they would, they put it in a pram and they hugged it so tight they squeezed the dog and killed the dog.

Tommy: I know.

Josh: And then put it— what? Had the dog in the pram. And so like, they've gone to my mum's house and And my gran, my mum's mum, was like, "Oh, you better go home." 'Cause the dog was actually dead in the pram.

Tommy: What? How old was the person that squeezed it?

Josh: I have no idea. I don't know the details. This storey's probably 50 years old. But the thing is that I think that's actually a condition of people who love animals so much they actually can't contain it and they squeeze them. I had a kid that I went to school with.

Tommy: I loved my dogs.

Josh: Yeah, but you didn't squeeze them to death. Well, so you didn't have the condition. It's probably the same type of condition that gets annoyed when someone eats. They also squeeze animals too hard, maybe. I don't know if they're connected. Probably different disorders.

Tommy: So, it's like a medical condition.

Josh: Yeah. I had one kid who I went to school with who, we had a whole farm at Muskill Park Primary School. And Ian Nottage, my teacher, he grew up in like, I think near Echuca. And so, he, when he would teach, he would have a whole farm. We had, what animals did we have? We had sheep, we had like calves, calves or calves, anyway. We had small cows, chickens, but guinea pigs, I remember there was a kid who squeezed and killed the guinea pigs. And I think it was, I think he was just a psychopath.

Tommy: Mate, if we— I think who was talking with someone recently, and it was around what animal— oh yeah, on the weekend— what animal if you came back would you want to be? And we're just talking about how you'd never want to fucking be a guinea pig. Those things have it hard, man. Did you hear— I don't know if this is true or not, but this was the rumour flying around when we were young— was that if you hold a guinea pig up upside down, its eyes fall out. It's probably not true.

Josh: Yeah, I don't want to, don't want to try it. It sounds like the Panadol seagull thing. But yeah, that's— I think if, if I was to come back as an animal, I'd come back— I mean, yeah, I think probably an elephant. That'd be pretty cool.

Tommy: Why?

Josh: I don't know.

Tommy: What if, what if— hang on, hang on. Is that because you have a photo of you on top of an elephant?

Josh: So, you know, I have a real thing for elephants. But I actually had a wooden— Do you, mate? I had a wooden elephant that I brought back from Thailand and Bree wouldn't allow it in the house. I've actually got footage of in my home office of her at night. I caught her going in. My camera had night vision. She went in and took the elephant and put it outside. Anyway, Bree told me that when we moved, she got rid of it and I've been pretty upset about that because it was sort of, it was our first overseas trip together.

Tommy: I saw, I saw what it was, a doorstop. It was being used as a doorstop outdoors. Was that it?

Josh: Yeah, and Bree chucked it.

Tommy: I like that elephant.

Josh: Yeah, Bree said that we couldn't have it in the house because the elephant's trunk was placed down and that's bad luck. It needs to be placed up, but I guess that one cost extra or something.

Tommy: So she's superstitious about your elephant?

Josh: No, she's not superstitious. She's, she's, I think that she's reverse engineered that. I think she hated the elephant and then she's now talked about, you know, made her trunk an issue. Her or he.

Tommy: Well, you know what? You need to come home with an elephant.

Josh: Yeah. Well, literally, we've been— when we stayed, when we were house sitting, you would have seen that house had a lot of cool travel memorabilia, right? Like they would just— they just had some random sticks that looked expensive and some artwork. And there's been multiple times where I've seen things and I'm like, if Bree and I had a house that we owned and that we actually decorated, it'd be cool to get a few little things. Do you collect stuff when you go overseas?

Tommy: Nah, we just felt like we needed to buy something. We bought Bodhi a bib the very first thing that we'd bought out. No, no, this is when we were over in Europe. He never wore it.

Josh: So, wait, Bodhi wasn't born then, was he?

Tommy: No, but he was in Amy's stomach.

Josh: Yeah, okay, sure.

Tommy: So, so we, uh, yeah, so we, we bought something. But I think that's the, the trap of being on— that's another trap is, uh, souvenirs. Yeah, like, you don't have to buy souvenirs.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: When you were traveling, mate, it's a life trap, do you know?

Josh: So the reason I haven't brought up a life trap segment today was because I was going to work on a song, but maybe I just do it live. Live, ready? So it won't have the song— a song, it would—

Tommy: well, it's a hangout. You've got one shot. Okay, you've got one shot. It could be produced.

Josh: I'll just give it a go.

Tommy: Who— what do you want to be known for?

Josh: Here we go. The guy who can do it live. Here we go. Life trap, baby, life trap. Life Trap, yeah, Life Trap, that's where it's at. Life Trap. See, the problem with doing it—

Tommy: just stolen.

Josh: Yeah, it's Love Shack.

Tommy: You stole a song.

Josh: Yeah, it's Love Shack. No, great karaoke song. Can I not do that?

Tommy: If you get a real produced, um, beat, it would sound— I'm happy with that.

Josh: Geez, you would actually sound quite good. If you thought that I was annoying Bray while she's trying to sleep when I'm doing the podcast, imagine her waking up right now to me singing Life Trap, which is a great song. Um, but no, that is a— a life trap would be around, um, the, the souvenir stuff, because I'm 100% on your side. We just— we don't need this shit in our life.

Tommy: Definitely don't need shit.

Josh: Yeah. And these—

Tommy: it'll probably end up in, in our office.

Josh: Exactly.

Tommy: If you get it.

Josh: And the other thing too is, um, Did you see Breezy? I don't know if I've spoken about it on the show. On the shawr. The Bree did an Insta storey the other day asking if anyone had any suggestions on how she could send stuff back to Melbourne. Have we spoken about this?

Tommy: Oh, no, we haven't. But I did see that she put up something about that.

Josh: Yeah. So, Bree and I had been arguing on the lead up to the trip about how much to bring. And I was telling her, bring less, bring less, you don't need that much stuff, bring less, bring less. We're a week in and she has basically said, I've brought too much stuff, I need to— She brought like denim jackets and like a leather jacket, like stuff that you're just not going to need in the summer in Europe. And so, now she's wanting to Send it all back in the mail, post.

Tommy: So, he's a trap in Thailand.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So, my brother went over there years ago and bought up a whole bunch of stuff and he thought, "I don't want to take this back with me. I don't want to have to pay for extra luggage." Silly move because he went to a place that you could ship stuff back to Australia. It never got there.

Josh: Really? So, that's a pretty fucked life trap, isn't it?

Tommy: It's fucked. And so I reckon they just literally took the box out the back and then put it back into the stores or sold it off. So if you are going to do it, like, we're just gonna get a premium. Yeah, but I think he— maybe it was it. I mean, Thailand, you probably got a bit different, you know, thing going on there.

Josh: I don't know, I feel like it's probably got its own fair bit of corruption. I'm nervous because then I'm about to, uh After this, we're gonna have breakfast, go on a train, and then I'm picking up a rental car.

Tommy: Yeah, in Europe, driving on the other side of the road.

Josh: Little Fiat. Yeah, but I am nervous because I know that, um, I remember Sylvia Jeffries telling us a storey about when she was travelling and they had their rental car and they all of a sudden The— they went to the car park that they'd kept it and it was gone. There's apparently some rort where they just like fucking have an extra pair of keys. They see where you park your car and they take it and it's an insurance job.

Tommy: Are you going to Greece? Are you going to Mykonos or Santorini?

Josh: I think we are. It's all very up in the air at the moment, but I think, yeah, I think we will. We will head there.

Tommy: Because you hire— like, you're on an island and so you can hire Don't hire a scooter. If you do, hire a four-wheeler. They're much safer in terms of you don't need balance like you do when you're riding a scooter. Or just don't go. I'd probably recommend you get neither because I'm worried about your safety.

Josh: Thank you, appreciate it.

Tommy: Just knowing your skills on two-wheelers, four-wheelers, or one-wheelers for that matter. But you literally just— you can lock your scooter, you can lock your four-wheeler up, but Literally, there's just— they are everywhere. And so you end up just leaving it in a space. I don't know if this is a car park for four-wheelers, like everyone's parking here, but is this gate gonna get locked? And so, fuck, travelling is like— looking back, it's like, if that got stolen, that would have been a fee of €900 or something ridiculous. Yeah, that they could have milked. But I even asked, I asked the people when I left the higher place. They're like, yeah, look, no one cares here. You're on an island. How far can it go?

Josh: Yeah, that's what they say at the beginning, right? Until you lose it.

Tommy: Exactly. I think you'll be fine driving, but just because where are you going?

Josh: So, we're going to a little village. We're going to a mediaeval town. I forgot, Breeza, what's the town called? Serrano. It's, I think it's S-O-R— How is it spelled, Breezy? I can't remember.

Tommy: S-E-R-O-N-A. S-E-R-O-N-A.

Josh: R-A-N-O. Oh, yeah.

Tommy: That's it. I'm looking at it.

Josh: Thank you.

Tommy: Looks nice.

Josh: Yeah. So, it's like a mediaeval village. It's like pretty, pretty random, but I just searched on Airbnb and found this guy who he's written a book. On Tuscany. He's a, um, makes his own bread. He's like super lovely, and he rents out a second apartment or like place that he has. So we'll, um, we'll be staying there for 7 days, which my whole thing is I just want to really chill. But, um, yeah, we'll see. I think Bree's slightly worried that I'm just gonna go again a bit, bit rogue with not having much to do.

Tommy: Oh, meaning you, you, you need something because that's 7 days sounds like you can just chill, but you can't just chill. Is that what she's saying?

Josh: Yeah, she's, she's saying that 7 days in one spot is, um, gonna drive me crazy. So we'll see.

Tommy: Or go like, it's not like you could do day trips.

Josh: Yeah, there's this beautiful like natural springs or some shit. I can't remember what it's called, but I'll be able to report there. Hopefully we make it all okay in the car, but I've done the US and stuff. I think it's just a bit of a different kettle of fish when you're in a country with a different language. So, we'll see.

Tommy: It's fucking, it's amazing how like I put my trust in the people that are driving us around Europe. Like when you get into a van or like someone from the hotel, it's like for some reason I assume trust in this person's ability.

Josh: Yeah, well, we just had friends that, uh, they've just gone to the Amalfi Coast and it looks beautiful where they're staying. And, um, they said that, uh, they'd been fucked by a taxi driver already, um, trying to screw them over.

Tommy: Just clarify, when they tried to screw— okay, good. Far out.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: So either— all right, well, you hopefully going to have good reception there.

Josh: I've already said to Chris, the Airbnb guy, Chris, it doesn't sound like an Italian name, but I've already mentioned to Chris about the podcast and that I'd need internet. So, I've also gone into 3 and Vodafone and double-checking for data type stuff, and he'll have internet as well. So, yeah, the daily talk show will continue.

Tommy: Hang on, they have 3 over— Yeah.

Josh: In Europe? They have 3.

Tommy: As in 3 the old— Phone company that was in Australia. Yeah, Three. Yeah, far out. I remember Three stores and they brought out like their own Three phone.

Josh: Yeah, well, there was Three phones. Do you remember there was also Orange? Orange used to—

Tommy: Yes, Orange was— they got— they bought— they came together.

Josh: Yeah, but they— I think Orange— do you remember Crazy John's? That's where I used to get my phones from. Dad had a business account and yeah, it would go to— oh, go to Crazy John's. But he died of a heart attack, I think. But he was a big supporter of um, the AFL footy show. I just— man, it's so funny how businesses are such a big part of your life. I mean, it sounds weird saying, but I just remember being very excited going to Crazy John's and getting a phone, getting a Motorola Flip.

Tommy: My dad got me my first contract at 3. But, um, oh, we had— Josh, we've had a few, uh, sticker requests come in.

Josh: So I saw the email from Michelle. I've got Michelle My one responsibility was to organise the Europe section of the stickers, and you are the only one that fits within that category. I'm on to it. Well, I've decided that when Bri goes to send off her clothes back to Australia, I'm going to do the sticker run. So, we said that the 10th, right? So, today's the 9th. So, people have one more day.

Tommy: Yeah, tomorrow's episode will say that you can still get them. So, hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you want stickers. Put in the subject line "stickers" and then just whack your details in.

Josh: Yeah, like your address.

Tommy: I've already started bringing it together and you'll get some stickers soon, guys.

Josh: Perfect. All right. Well, I'll be speaking to you from a mediaeval village. I'm slightly nervous. I just had a moment of being like, I wonder if it's going to be those toilets where you can't put toilet paper in the toilet and, you know, just thinking of worst-case scenarios. But, um, yeah, now I reckon you'll be good.

Tommy: Italy, Italy's better than Greece because it's like, it's a massive, massive— Italy is a massive, massive island. Yeah, as opposed to Mykonos being a tiny little fucking—

Josh: yeah, they can't—

Tommy: dot on the earth.

Josh: That makes sense. So that Daily Talk Show, everyone, and also just send us emails too if you, uh, If you've got any ideas of how I can get out of people trying to scam me for my money, that would be appreciated. Or if you've got a life trap of your own as well. Now that I've got my own song, it's— this segment is official.

Tommy: And don't send through saying that I said that Italy's an island. It's attached to the mainland.

Josh: Okay, great. So, uh, fuck, what if they've—

Tommy: they've probably already—

Josh: so you could say anything. I don't like— that was That's— yeah, I need to, I need to really improve my, um, my general knowledge. One thing I do—

Tommy: you're going to the—

Josh: is the reason that there's rings on the side of Build. Like, I want to learn and understand, like, this is Renaissance, Renaissance, Renaissance, Renaissance, how do you say it?

Tommy: Renaissance.

Josh: Yeah, Renaissance, thank you. Or like, this is Gothic. I think Gothic has like a pointy bit in the arch. But anyway, I want to understand what all that shit means because I'm going to these tours and they assume, I guess, a primary school level of knowledge and I'm just obviously not there. So, it makes it very difficult.

Tommy: You're going— You're actually going to the heel of the boot. So, the Italian, like, it looks like a boot and then the heel is where this mediaeval town is located.

Josh: Is it really on the heel? It's near the— It's sort of— It's close to Rome, isn't it? It's like a— 100, couple of hundred k's from Rome.

Tommy: Where I've put in, there's nowhere near there.

Josh: Okay, give me a sec, but let's, let's clarify before people think I'm going to somewhere that I'm not. Let me look on my Airbnb and I'll tell you exactly where it is, okay? Which you— we, we know how temperamental the internet is, so I might completely go— let's have a look. I'm just going into logging into my Airbnb. App. It is— so I am staying, uh, Sorano, S-O-R-A-N-O, in Grossetto, Tuscany.

Tommy: Ah, yes, there you go.

Josh: I don't know what we said before. Sorano.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, that looks, that looks 10 times better than the place I was just looking at. I didn't want to break it to you. I was looking at this shithole.

Josh: Serrano. Serrano.

Tommy: Okay, this is—

Josh: How many people are going to listen to a little bit of the episode and think that you think that fucking Italy is whatever you said it was that it's not? And I'm going to someplace— Anyway, I guess people will just— We'll have to clarify it on the next— We have to— Oh, actually, can we close— Closing the loop, can you go into Trevor Long's email and give us the different pronunciations of the Chinese mobile phone companies.

Tommy: Okay, so Trevor, thank you for actually writing it, writing the pronunciation out in layman's terms. So the first one, I think it's Xiaomi. Yeah, yeah, Xiaomi.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Then of course there's Huawei. Come on, I would read it as Hawaii. And then the next one's Oppo, which is spelled O-P-P-O, and, um, those three are the ones, the dominant phone companies in the Chinese market.

Josh: That is all. Close the loop. Yeah, because I did, um, I was talking about, I think I was calling one of them Yowie or something, which I think might have—

Tommy: yeah, that, I think that's Hawaii.

Josh: Yeah, I think that's, that's the one that I was trying to say. So there you go, it's the Daily Talk Show, everyone. Feel free to send us emails. We're also on Instagram. Instagram, what are you gonna Instagram today? Got anything interesting to to show us, TJ?

Tommy: Probably just me, me eating a souvlaki.

Josh: Living the dream. All right, we'll see you tomorrow, everyone. Bye.

Tommy: See you guys.