No Bono & working at the fire brigade

Josh: Wait a minute! Crossface, the Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Jackett. Episode 104. What's going on, Tommy?

Tommy: Mate, sorry, I just, just, I I don't know why I didn't talk then.

Josh: That's okay. You were driving here in rain today. Yeah. Traffic not ideal?

Tommy: Traffic's a shit house. But I did notice something that I wanted to talk to you about.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Bumper stickers.

Josh: Yeah, what about them?

Tommy: So, okay.

Josh: Actually, before you get into that, can I just say people are probably wondering, you know what 104 was meant to be?

Tommy: What was 104? Oh, what was it?

Josh: The Bono episode.

Tommy: Yeah, Bono cancelled because he heard me talking about it.

Josh: Yeah, I think like in full transparency, given that the style of the podcast, we should let people know that it's really hard for me to say this, but Bono was never coming.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, he never came.

Josh: But yeah, so yeah, you've driven to where I'm house sitting. We've got a shoot in an hour.

Tommy: So we're just getting a cheeky little podcast in before we, um, we hit the road. Yeah, so I saw this, uh, bumper sticker. It said, I love Bali dogs.

Josh: Okay, is it like a literal thing? So they like dogs in Bali? I guess we don't know.

Tommy: I don't know. Well, if you've been to Bali, yeah, there's dogs are everywhere. Yeah, I nearly got nipped by one running past it. They're, they're pests. Yeah, but they are wild, so people end up feeding them. Like, they're nice enough.

Josh: They—

Tommy: it's almost like they just kind of stick to themselves. I mean, people get bitten, but with the amount that there is, people aren't— it's not like they're savaging people every day. Everywhere you're seeing it, I never saw what that happened. But so the bumble sticks, have you ever had them on your car?

Josh: Uh, the closest thing I had was when I had the blog Melbourne Geek.

Tommy: And you put one on your car?

Josh: A decal, a full back decal on the Melbourne Geek with like my caricature on the back and everything. Ford Laser '97.

Tommy: So when I had this stripping business, yeah, I didn't, but the dude who I had the business with had a Mercedes, like a four-wheel drive Mercedes, and, and we got like a decal on the back that said Aussie Spunks Male Stripping and Entertainment, and then a number, which which was— I got this, you would have been proud— 0488 SPUNKS.

Josh: Oh, that's good. How do you even get that?

Tommy: Well, you just work out what that— say if it's 6 numbers at the end and it spells SPUNKS, and then you cheque out if anyone's got it. But sorry, then you can go— like, you could go with many providers that offer 0488. So it was like, I think it was Telstra that offered the 0488.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so I got to—

Josh: what's the 88 mean?

Tommy: I just, like, my starter mine's 0401, which is old school.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So it was just the time.

Josh: Okay, sure.

Tommy: So yeah, you just then—

Josh: The 88 had nothing to do with your business though?

Tommy: Nothing, it's just I wanted to go, I could have got like 0468, but I was like 88 was good. Anyway, the problem with having a decal, as you may have realized, if you had your number on, people would call you in traffic.

Josh: I think I've called one person before telling him they're driving like a dickhead. Really? Yeah.

Tommy: So this dude— oh, because we had the, we had a, um, the Spunks phone. Uh, he would get like abused. So like dudes calling thinking he's, you know, like—

Josh: it's a good, um, trolling.

Tommy: It was—

Josh: it's a good way of— I mean, probably the level of troll on an Aussie Spunks business is quite high as well.

Tommy: High on a geek. Yeah, Melbourne geek people are like, what's the See what I'd do if I saw that? I would drive up to see if you looked like a geek. Yeah, and you would have.

Josh: Yeah, I would have. Yeah, and I still do.

Tommy: Anyway, I'm going somewhere with this story. It's in a roundabout way. Okay, what it made me think when I saw this when I was in Shepparton— I've wanted to tell you this for a while on the program.

Josh: Can you never do segue? What, what has happened to you this morning? You're talking—

Tommy: am I clearly not doing a sort of dumb radio segue to make light of that there is dumb radio.

Josh: I don't know if they're picking up on the dumb.

Tommy: So I just did a dumb radio segue.

Josh: Okay, it seemed very— it was very authentic.

Tommy: Now that you say, look out for those danger signs. Now that you're talking. So when I was driving up to Shepparton, I, um, saw a bumper sticker and I was a bit fucking repulsed by it. And the bumper sticker was Fuck off, we're full.

Josh: Oh yeah, there's a few of them around.

Tommy: You've seen it?

Josh: Yeah. Okay, so with the Aussie, the Australian sort of silhouette or whatever. Yeah, outline.

Tommy: What do you think it means? Because I, I, I—

Josh: It means, it means don't let any, anyone else into the country because we're full.

Tommy: Well, so that's what I thought it meant.

Josh: That's what it does mean.

Tommy: And I think it does mean that, but where did it come from? So there's like The iteration. So we— I talked about this on the radio. It was like 6 AM or something. I was like, I saw this bumper sticker, it was disgusting. And you know, I can't believe people put those on their car.

Josh: And what did people say?

Tommy: Well, we got a call, Laura, about probably— she's like late 50s. Um, I just wanted to tell you about the bumper sticker. So we recorded it, we didn't put it to air. Yeah, because we didn't want to go, we love it, don't let them in. She actually said The origins of that sticker are actually from fuck off, we're full, meaning we don't want your import, we don't want to import your meat. So it was around like importing, exporting of meat. So they did— we didn't want cattle being imported into the country because we've got our own.

Josh: It's just almost like my Full Stack Films logo that could be interpreted as a swastika. You started off in one sort of realm, and then people like, hang on, if you just angle it 40 degrees—

Tommy: it's meaning— so the— she thinks that that was the original meaning.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And then the racist— and then those racists and the gross people just took it and went, well, fuck, we don't even have to invent a saying, we just take this one that had a sticker and it was all around cattle. So there's a bit of— I thought that was really interesting.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, I think that that happens constantly. It's, um, uh, Jason Fox was talking to me about how some of those things that he says jokingly as a way of sort of highlighting the dumbness of, um, some of the motivational speaker type deals, like where he says cheque up from the neck up. He said that he's seen people go, oh yeah, yeah, cheque up with you, not realising that he was sort of playing a role.

Tommy: I, I get it, Jason. I mean, it's like my I thought I was being obvious with my dumb segues, but I mean, there's things that kind of connect. See, I thought I was being, I thought I was actually being really fucking funny and silly, or silly, just like obviously silly. But yeah, it doesn't always come across how you think.

Josh: Two house sitting questions or incidences.

Tommy: Yeah, there's been a lot of incidences here.

Josh: Incidences, yes. No, when it's raining, what do you do with the dog? Does he just not go outside? He needs to shit still.

Tommy: See, this house doesn't have a dog door. Where I grew up, there was dog doors and they'd shit as they please.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But there was probably some days that they shat inside. You've got to take him out. You've got to take the dog out. That's the responsibility of owning a dog.

Josh: If we open the door and just— if he goes out, he goes out.

Tommy: Now see, this is where you fall flat in being a dog owner. Because you're not actually a doggo, you're a part-time dog owner. That's the problem here. My dad would be out with the bag walking the dog most mornings in the pit, in pitch black, rain, hail, or shine. Like, that's what—

Josh: It's a commitment.

Tommy: Yeah, it's such a commitment.

Josh: Yeah, no, well, and so you've got this, you're— It's great to be able to have— It's great to have Archie as a reminder that why I wouldn't have a pet.

Tommy: It's a bit like a spa. You get it, you go to your mate's spa that's nice and warm.

Josh: Yeah, you don't have to deal with all the maintenance.

Tommy: Put all the bullshit into it and make it, make it good.

Josh: I guess so. The other thing that happened last night, I went to brush my teeth, had the toothbrush in my hand, and something didn't feel right. Turns out I was about to use the house owner's toothbrush. They have the exact same toothbrush. Oh no., and I had brushed my teeth yesterday morning in the shower and had left it in there. So, it confused me because I was looking for my toothbrush and theirs was the one there and it was the same colour and all that sort of thing.

Tommy: And so, you actually—

Josh: I didn't get toothbrush to mouth. So, that's okay, but that could have been an absolute disaster. If you'd used it, would you have just rinsed it and put it back?

Tommy: Nah, would have thrown it out. I would have thrown both out and got new ones.

Josh: But you would have— why would you have thrown yours out?

Tommy: Could have been confused. I might have actually— that might actually be theirs too. Just blow them up. You never know. I'd get too confused.

Josh: You know what, you're gonna have to light the whole house on fire.

Tommy: Burn down this house and the dog in it. No, no, it's—

Josh: mate, that got real dark.

Tommy: It is.

Josh: Look at Archie's little face. He just looked up like, nah, he just looked at me.

Tommy: He said, I haven't shat in 3 days, you asshole. No, it's, you know what happens? It's a similar, not a similar thing, but at the gym when I worked in gyms, yeah, everyone's got similar water bottles. And do you know how many times I found myself drinking some other bloke's water bottle?

Josh: That's gross.

Tommy: It grosses me out. And same with, and in all fairness, Amy and I share a toothbrush every now and then.

Josh: Why?

Tommy: Like, if we've been away, if we're travelling and we're like, oh shit, we've left one I've left— It's usually me leaving my toothbrush at home.

Josh: Yeah, it's not ideal. I guess if you're macking on all the time anyway, who cares?

Tommy: Macking on? What are you, grade 7?

Josh: No, in grade 7, we would— What would you call it in grade 7? On the count of 3, let's say it. 1, 2, 3. Pash.

Tommy: Yeah, I was going to say pash, and then I went for make out and then had a stroke halfway through.

Josh: I'm sorry we did that.

Tommy: Yeah, pashing, make out. But I mean, yeah, it's, yeah, bodily, like sharing with your partner. Yeah, I'm not macking out on with Amy. I don't call it macking on.

Josh: What do you call it?

Tommy: Maybe making out still.

Josh: Oh, you guys make out?

Tommy: You're gross.

Josh: Um, I'm looking at the, I'm looking at, uh, Trello at the moment.

Tommy: You know how you didn't have much sleep, did you? Your voice, you sound tired. Are you tired?

Josh: The funny thing is I am really tired. I had 8 hours sleep. Far out. And Bri woke me up with a coffee again, which was amazing. No, I think it's maybe the time in which I've just, my mind has been thinking constantly of, especially on shoot days, if you do video or anything like that, and it's probably so many other industries too. Shoot days have this heightened sense of, okay, we're moving everything, we need to like, we're doing this thing, we need to be prepared. And so it's the legwork the day before and the evening before to be like, I'm getting all the edits I need to get done. Yeah, yeah, in the can.

Tommy: And with this shit internet, so can you just tell me, because I want to tell, I want you to tell me about the storey of when you went to the shoot.

Josh: Ah yeah, sure. When I was at the fire brigade, I think you worked at the fire brigade, Metropolitan Fire Brigade. I was, uh, would have been 20, 20 or 21. I think it was 20. Yeah, it would have been a little JJ.

Tommy: What were you weighing in at?

Josh: 19 or 20, uh, over 100.

Tommy: And what do you weigh now?

Josh: Uh, 85.

Tommy: Lean machine.

Josh: Not quite yet, but getting there. Osher Ginsberg and I were, uh, macking on on the Instagram DMs, sliding into each other's DMs. Yeah, just chatting about weight and shit like that. He's lean, lean.

Tommy: He's lean as a whipper, but he trains. You've just optimised your diet.

Josh: Yeah, well, so here we'll talk— I was talking about that's sort of my next step.

Tommy: Oh yeah, mate, you're 80% there.

Josh: Yeah, 90.

Tommy: Okay, 90% there, really close. You need to have some room for weight, bro.

Josh: 10%. Anyway, so I, um, you know, so actually I would have been, uh, yeah, 20, and, uh, it was just driving your Melbourne Geek car. Yeah, I think I'm trying to think of, yeah, it would have been like a similar time. Maybe it was even when I was like 19. I think it was 2009, I was 19. And it was an interesting role 'cause I'd come out of, I was working for myself. I'd done like a year out of school working with myself, like working for my own business. Freelancing.

Tommy: Freelancing.

Josh: And I was working at my parents' house. And it was just like one of those times where, thinking about the struggle of like, this is going on nearly 10 years ago now, and, um, how disconnected I was in the sense of I was working in Berwick at my parents' house trying to, um, trying to like have clients and stuff, but I was working from home. So you— I would barely see— like, I would work from, uh, my mates had a office in the main street of Berwick or whatever, which is like suburban Melbourne. Yeah. And, uh, I would sometimes go in there, but yeah, I was pretty disconnected and isolated. And I found this, um, isn't that remote, remote workplace?

Tommy: Yeah, you were living the dream. I was, yeah, 4 hours.

Josh: It was, it was, it wasn't ideal, but I, um, yeah, the MFB had this role that I took on, uh, which was like a, it was a media producer role, but it was Tied up in this traineeship, so they paid me peanuts and it was sort of a junior burger role, but I was basically— they were just using it as cheap labour in some regards. I was doing all the stuff everyone else was doing, but, um, there was a, there was a time I would go off and film all different types of things. So some of the stuff was really cool. It would be like fire drills or doing, um, safety videos, or we even had— there was this show called, um All Hands. I think it was called All Hands. I've just gone blank. I think it was called All Hands. Yeah, and it was a weekly show, sort of like if you're in Australia, the footy show. It's a panel show, but they're all firefighters. Yeah, on the show, and they talk about the best like fire incidences of the week. So they're like, oh, you know, we had this one. Yeah, we had it all, you know, just like the highlight one. So they'll be like, oh, you know, had this had this fire in Brighton and we've got, you know, John on the line who was there, mate, tell us about it. It's like, yeah, the, the, we, we had, uh, X amount of, uh, trucks there, blah blah blah.

Tommy: I'd actually be into that.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, but the funny thing, it was, it was a, um, they were dropping so much money on this production they would actually have all these people from Channel 9 who were, uh, worked for the footy show and stuff would come in for the day to be the camera operators and stuff. It was just so overbaked and it was live to every fire— every Metropolitan Fire, um, fire— what is it called?

Tommy: Fire station. And so they would be able to watch it live?

Josh: Yeah, so they would watch it live and that sort of thing. So that just gives you some of the quirks. But so I was one of these times had to go to Carrum Downs, which was far out, to, um—

Tommy: That's 40 minutes, 45 minutes from Berwick.

Josh: Yeah. But I was going from North Fitzroy where they're— where the MFB, uh, like, uh, media production.

Tommy: Oh, is that where you had to go to every day? Yeah, North Fitzroy. Yeah, so at least an hour to Carrom Downs.

Josh: Yeah, so it took ages. Yeah. And so I, um, uh, drove all the way there, met with the person who was running all the training, said, hey, I'm Josh, um, you know, I sort of prided myself on being quite good at talking to them and all that sort of thing. They gave me the safety gear that I had to wear and I said, I'm just gonna go back to the car and get all the gear. Went to my bag, opened up the bag, I'd taken the camera bag but not the camera. And man, that was—

Tommy: I could imagine your nose would've just had beads of sweat in one second.

Josh: It was, I was slightly panicked, but the, The good thing about it, because I was a bit of a junior burger, it was lucky because I'm like, okay, this is just part of the process. This is like, for once I've actually— Yeah, I actually, I was like, I definitely was a little bit panicked. But the thing is, it was a government agency and it was this little department that had just been, just before I'd arrived, had been independently audited and had been slammed. And so, just like, this is like a massive waste of resources and money and all that sort of thing. And so, My boss was, um, he would take like a lot of sick leave and all that sort of thing, but he was, he was, what he was good at was empathising to being shit at your job.

Tommy: Yes, Josh, I pulled 4 sickies last month.

Josh: Yeah, exactly.

Tommy: So I get it, buddy. Yeah, we all, we all make mistakes. And there was no reprimand? You didn't?

Josh: No, I didn't get in trouble.

Tommy: Were they there specifically for you to film, or were they just doing training?

Josh: Nah, they were just doing training anyway, so it was okay. But that does remind me, might as well just get this as the storeys of working at the fire brigade.

Tommy: Yeah. Can I just ask quickly? Because you'd probably know this. I always heard that if you were in the training to become a firefighter, if you stepped up 2 steps at once, you would fail.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Is that true?

Josh: Yeah, I think I remember hearing that too.

Tommy: Because it was like, if you— Because that's more exertion than going up one at a time. So, when you have a big pack on.

Josh: It's like, there's huge— there's, yeah, the, the onboarding, or like the, um, to be able to get into the, the firies is really intense. And they, um, the coolest stuff that I got to do was filming the high angle rescue team. So would go to, it's like the top of, um, like the Telstra building in the city, and they would abseil off the edge. So we got like access to the roof, that was heaps of fun.

Tommy: So, were you leaning over the side filming?

Josh: Yeah, leaning over the side filming. And then there was another place which was where the huge, I don't even know what the terminology is, you know, like the big cranes that take the, in Port Melbourne, you know how there's the ships that come in with the, what are those rectangle things called?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, the big cargo.

Josh: Yeah, what are they called?

Tommy: Cargo ships, the cargo containers.

Josh: The containers. So, the crane things that take the containers.

Tommy: Yeah, they look like, like they look like giraffes. Rafts. Yeah, from afar, they're these huge big metal structures.

Josh: Yeah. So though I'd gone on to one of them on it. Yeah, on the top and was filming on that, which was scary because it's sort of like honeycomb sort of metal.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Um, flooring, so you can see all the way down, but they would abseil off that. So I got some to do some pretty cool experiences, got to film in some interesting locations. But I remember when we were doing the All Hands show, the On our final episode, the Christmas episode, we wanted this scene. Actually, I'll go back. I'll, I'll do the, the final bit and then I'll explain what happened.

Tommy: All right.

Josh: There was a stench in the office. It was end of December and it was— and it's something had died in the office. It was like a big— we had this big warehouse with the, the whole studio and all that sort of thing and Yeah, there was, it got to the point where we got pest control to come in and try and sort out. Bree is just trying to get Archie to come outside to finally take a dump. Thanks for doing that, Breezer.

Tommy: Bree's not taking a dump, just to be clear.

Josh: No, he hasn't gone yet, Breezer. Yeah, so we had a pest control 'cause it was really, they were like 40-degree days. It was hot and just stunk like something had died.

Tommy: It is the worst smell, mate. I had things die under our house and then the—

Josh: What?

Tommy: Possums, but then the heating, the central heating, would carry the smell and push it out warm into our house. So the house smelled like dead possum. Anyway, I know the smell, it's feral.

Josh: Yeah, so it turns out what it was, was on the Christmas episode, uh, so a month earlier, we wanted to have this scene where the, the show opened with Afiree pulling out burnt chicken from the oven. They had a whole kitchen set, and so what we did was we had gone to the shops, bought a raw chicken and painted it black. The problem was that we'd forgotten about it and kept it in the oven on— in the set, and it would get to 40 degrees. Like it was going through that time where it was like, yeah, 40 degrees. Yeah, every day we had a real stint of hot weather, and it turns out that the disgusting chicken—

Tommy: oh no—

Josh: had just been rotting, and the pest control found it.

Tommy: So you called in pest control, we got this, boys. Yep, chicken. Haven't seen this one before, chicken in an oven.

Josh: Yeah, the old raw chicken in an oven.

Tommy: What? They would have been like, what is this?

Josh: I mean, the whole thing was a bit of a circus. I don't know if I can get in trouble for saying all this, but it was a hilarious time. You could have done a mockumentary. The stuff that I would film, it was the same stuff every year. So they would do like the firefighter Olympic type stuff. So you'd go and film all different sports. I would film anyone who was retiring.

Tommy: This like a bunch of these dudes pushing themselves? Like when you say sports, it's like they're competing?

Josh: Yeah, so the fireys would have all these different like events that they'd be a part of. So, there would be like, I think it was called the Firefighter Games or something. So, it's like all the different fireys competing in different sports.

Tommy: I wonder if they're still doing it?

Josh: They 100% would be. I know that they reduced that team to be like the core team now. And they like all had to move to head office in East Melbourne. But man, what an interesting time. A whole studio, it would have been a— the rent on that space would have been a couple hundred thousand, maybe $150,000 a year for the space in North Fitzroy.

Tommy: Good spot.

Josh: Yeah, and it was, um, yeah, it was an interesting time. So quirky. But I got to do some interesting stuff, made a documentary, went up to Marysville after Black Saturday. So, it was during that time. So, it would have been— So, when was Black Saturday? 2011?

Tommy: January or February.

Josh: I must have been 20.

Tommy: It was a severe bushfire in Victoria for all our Japanese listeners.

Josh: And so, it was interesting because I got to go up to Marysville, interview the bakery, the lady who owned the bakery, one of the only things that sort of survived the fire was really interesting because here's someone who, uh, whose bakery was fine, but she had this tremendous guilt because she's like, those people over the cross the road, they died. Those people died, died, actually died. And so there was— she ended up moving away from that area anyway.

Tommy: Just the severity of it quickly, I know a cop who went up one, like, after it just happened. There was people who had been— because when there's a bushfire, there's like this wind that can come through, it creates like a storm. Yeah, the fire, you know, they say like fireballs actually travel. There was people that had been blown into barbed wire fences and burnt, and he's— he was there to see the bodies and inspect everything. He said it was the most traumatic fucking experience he's ever had.

Josh: Well, I think Yeah, because I—

Tommy: And you should have probably eaten a doughnut from the bakery. Was it open?

Josh: Uh, yeah, it was open. Uh, I can't even remember. It's really a different vibe now there. It's quite sad. Like, they've, um, it's one of those things where it's like you've got this old town and everyone's sort of got post-traumatic stress and most people have left. And so it's been all— they've tried to inject money into it to make it a thing again, but it's just got this gloomy sort of vibe. But the, um, you know, I remember the speaking with the people who were involved in the identification of bodies. And so, oh God, yeah, so they would go into the houses. I think they called— like, there's this sort of dark humour associated with it where they're like, I think the bodies were called crispies, which is like a dead body from the fire. And they would, um, You kind of got it.

Tommy: I mean, I— one minute it's like, oh, that's, that's disgusting, they say that.

Josh: But on the other side, it's like they're dealing with such a serious thing, and they would deal with them with a lot of respect as well too, right? Because the thing is that everyone would tell a story. So some people would be found in their pool, or they'd be found— they'd be all like together in one area of the house.

Tommy: I see this, I go on like these Um, you know, it's like a— I go down the rabbit hole of things. Recently it's been, um, Osama bin Laden. Yeah, I told you I've been just watching so much stuff.

Josh: You're a few years late on that one.

Tommy: No, but exactly, I've already gone down this before and now I'm just down it again for some reason. I got really into understanding the CIA and how they approached Osama bin Laden. Anyway, do you know what Zero Dark Thirty stands for? Have you heard that? There's like a movie about it, Zero Dark Thirty. It just means 12:30. It's when they did the raid. Dark and then 30. Zero Dark Thirty. Oh yeah, I never knew that.

Josh: Was this some sort of Hollywood title that was created?

Tommy: Or no, Zero Dark Thirty is the term that they use. We're attack— we're going in to the compound at Zero Dark Thirty. Okay, that's what they say.

Josh: So what would be like 9 AM?

Tommy: Yeah, don't know, but I just— that's— I just—

Josh: they're on Dark Thirty.

Tommy: Zero Dark Thirty.

Josh: Nine Light.

Tommy: And they give— they gave Osama bin Laden a name. Yeah, I think it was Geronimo. Okay, so they're like, eyes on Geronimo.

Josh: Geez, they're really getting it. How much of this shit's necessary versus they're just trying to act like top dogs?

Tommy: Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I, um, went down a rabbit hole of, um, looking into, um, fire shelters. So I was thinking like, why don't we have— like, out in these places, why isn't there just underground fire shelters? Yeah, and so I looked into it and they're super expensive. Yeah, around $20,000. And I asked Scott Pape, Barefoot Investor, I went out to his property where his whole house burnt down and some sheep died. And anyway, I was like, dude, do you have a fire shelter? He's like, nah, um, bit expensive.

Josh: And we'll just hide in the money vault.

Tommy: Bit expensive and they're not actually that great. That was all we talked about. But then I looked up a company in Melbourne that creates them.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then I started reading some fine print.

Josh: Here's the thing with fire shelters, you could suck the oxygen out of some shit, or what's that? What do they—

Tommy: you only get like 40 minutes of oxygen.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: In them. So they can be—

Josh: it was a huge industry. I mean, this is like anything, but when something, uh, happens, a huge industry comes following. And so the amount of these fire bunker company. I remember seeing a, um, a ute with like a fire bunker on a trailer, and it would just like drive around as like a promo type of thing.

Tommy: Oh yeah, because they bury them. So this was like the—

Josh: this was, this was the one that goes underground, you know. This is the one that they would then install.

Tommy: Yeah, they dig out a hole, put it down, bury it. It's full-on.

Josh: People have been actually using them as man caves, just doing a bit of a reno.

Tommy: Yeah, I, I've been really thinking about making a video with one of these companies, just because I'm interested in checking out some of these fire— these fire— uh, we should do an episode.

Josh: Yeah, from a fire bunker. Fire bunker would be interesting. Everyone, it's The Daily Talk Show. Send your emails hi@thedailytalkshow.com. We've got some filming to do, so we better go. But have a good one.

Tommy: See you guys.

Josh: See you Monday. Can you believe it's Friday?

Tommy: 1:05 on Monday.

Josh: Yeah, catch ya.