#104 – No Bono & working at the fire brigade/

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Cross face

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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket.

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Episode 104. What's going on? Tommy made?

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Sorry, I just did

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this. I don't know why I didn't talk them. No, that's okay. You.

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You were driving here and rain today? Yeah. Traffic, no idea

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traffic to shoot us. But I did notice something that I wanted to talk to you about. Okay. bumper stickers? Yeah.

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What about him? So.

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Okay. Actually, before you get into that kind of say, people are probably wondering, you know, when I fall was meant to be what was

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wonderful. Oh, was it the Bono episode? You're gonna

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cancel? Because we, you know. Yeah,

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I think like, in full transparency. Given that the style of the podcast, we should let people know that it's really hard for me to say this. But Bono was never coming. Yeah, he never came. But so yeah, you're you've driven to where I'm housesitting. We've got to shoot Yeah. In an hour. So

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we just Kenya cheeky little podcasting before we we hit the road so so this a bumper sticker it said I love Bali dogs.

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Okay. Is it like a little thing? So they like dogs in Berlin? I guess we don't

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know. Well if you've been to Bali? Yeah.

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There's dogs

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are everywhere. Yeah.

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I nearly got nipped by one running past them. They they pests. Yeah. But they are wild that so people end up feeding them like they nice. And I say it's almost like they just kind of stick to themselves. I mean people get bitten but with the amount that there is people aren't. It's not like this savaging people every know every way you seeing it I never saw that happen. But so the bad mistakes Have you ever had the Monica

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the closest thing I had was when I had the blog Melbourne geek and he put one on your car decal a full back decal on with like my character on the back and everything for days and 97. So when I had this stripping business, yeah,

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I didn't. But the dude who I had the business with had a Mercedes like a full drive Mercedes and and we got like a decal on the back that said all the Spanx, male stripping in entertainment, and then a number which was I got this you would have been proud Oh, four double eight Spanx.

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And that's how do you even get

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well you just work out what that safe it's six end and it spills Spanx and then you check out if anyone's got it but there sorry then you can go like you could go with many providers that offer for a date so it was like I think was Telstra that offered the Oh for a tight so I got to what's the main just like my starter mines Oh 401 which is old school yeah so it's just the time I can't show so yeah you just need a toad had nothing to do with your business though just nothing it's just you I wanted to go I could have got like oh 468 by eight I was good anyway problem with having a decal as you may have realized if he had the number on people would call you in traffic I've I think I've called one person before telling him they're driving like a DK Really? Yeah. So this dude all because we had that we had a the Spanx phone

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he would get like abuse so like dudes calling thinking is you know like it's a good trolling it was.

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It's a good way of I mean, you probably the level of troll on the spunk business is quite high as well. I on a geek

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geek people like what's the secret audio? I saw that Oh, drive up to see if you look like a geek. Yeah. And you would have Yeah, yeah, and I still do anyway I'm going somewhere with this story in a roundabout way. Go what it made me think when I saw this when I was in shipping. I've wanted to tell you this for a while on the program can never do segue what what has happened to this morning? I you totally clearly not doing a sort of dumb radio segue to Mike. Lot of that there is dumb radio picking up on the dumb so I just did a damn radio segway okay.

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It's a very, it was very authentic now that you say look out

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for those danger sign now that you're talking. So

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when I was driving up to ship it, and I saw a bumper sticker and I was a bit fucking repulsed by it. And the bumper sticker was Fuck off. way full. Yeah, they

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there's a few of them are saying

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it. Yeah. Okay. So with the Ozzie the Australian sort of silhouette or whatever

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outline, what do you think it means? Because I it means it means that don't let any any anyone else into the country because we're for well, so that's what I thought it meant. That's what it does mean. And I think it does mean that but we come from so there's, like I said, it's aeration. So we, I talked about this on on the radio. It was like 6am or something else. Like, I saw these bumper stickers. Disgusting. And, you know, a couple of people, you put those on the car and people say,

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Well, we got a call Laura back. Probably. She's like late 50s.

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I just wanted to tell you about the bumper sticker. So we recorded it, we didn't put it away. Because we Yeah, we love it. Not letting me she actually said, The origins of that sticker are actually from Fuck off. We're full, meaning we don't want your input. We don't want to input your meet. So it was around like importing, exporting of mates. So they didn't, we didn't want cattle being imported into the country because we've got our own. It's almost like my full stack films. logo that could be interpreted as a swastika

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started off in one sort of realm. And then people like, hang on, if you just angle it.

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It's mainly the so the main the she thinks of that was the original meaning. Okay, and then the races, and then those racists and the gross people just took it. And well, well, in fact, we don't even have to invent a saying we just take this one that had a sticker and it was all around cattle. So I thought that was really interesting. Yeah,

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I mean, I think that that happens constantly. It's

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Jason Fox was talking to me about a how some of those things that he says jokingly as a way of sort of highlighting the dumbness of some of the motivational speaker type deals like where he says, checkup from the neck up. He said, that he's saying people are Yeah, yeah,

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check out with, you know, not realizing that he was sort of playing a wrong I get it. Jason. I mean, it's like my, I thought I was being obvious with my damn segues. But I mean, this things that kind of connects the I thought I was being I thought I was actually being really fucking funny and silly. Silly. Just like obviously silly. But yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't stay up

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to housesitting,

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questions or incidences, yeah. It's been a lot of incidences. Ian's in incidences yes know when it's raining what do you do with a dog does he just not go outside he needs to shift still say this has doesn't have a dog dual where I grew up there was dog dogs and I'd shooters I please yeah but

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there was probably some days that they shut inside you've got go to take him out. You got to take the dog out that's the responsibility of

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the adult if we open the door and just if he goes down he goes out now

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see this is where you fall flat and being a dog owner

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because you know that you're part time

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doggone that's the problem he my dad would be out with the bag walking the dog most mornings in the pit in pitch black Ryan hi Alicia. And like that's why it's a commitment yeah it's such a commitment yeah well and

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you've got this year it's great. It's great to have Archie as a

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reminder that why I wouldn't have a pet it's a bit like a spa you get it you got it might spot it's nice and warm yeah you know tonight almost all the maintenance all the bullshit into it and make it make it good i guess i The other thing that happened last night I went to brush my teeth had the toothbrush in my hand and something didn't feel right right

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turns out I was about to use the house owners toothbrush they have the exact same toothbrush and I I had brushed my teeth

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yesterday morning in the shower and had left it in there so it confused me because I was looking for my toothbrush and there's was the one there it was the same color and all that sort of thing and so you actually I didn't get to toothbrush to mouth so that's okay but that could have been an absolute disaster if you'd used it would you have just rinsed it and put it back now we're thrown at

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that and got new one but you would

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have would have thrown yours it

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could have been confused I might have actually that might actually be these to just blow

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me when I get to you're gonna have to light the fire

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burn down these hours and and the dog in it not now

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it's like a real dark He

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looked at his face he just looked at like nine say that he said I've been chatting three days so

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now it's you know what happens it's a similar similar thing but at the gym when I worked in gyms yeah everyone's got similar water bottles. How many times have found myself drinking some other blokes. It's gross it's gross grosses me out and same with to end in all fairness I mean I share a toothbrush every now and then why like if we if we are traveling and when I shoot with left one I've left it's usually may leaving my tooth brush at home Yes it's not idea

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i get i guess if you makin on all the time anyway

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makin on what do you grade seven now in grade seven we would what would you call it in grade seven? On the count of three let's say 123 pat pat yeah I was gonna say passion then I went for my account and then had a stroke half I'm sorry we did that yeah passing make out but I mean yeah it's yeah like sharing with your partner yet

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I'm not maxing out on with me and I got makin on what do you call it

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might might be making it still

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oh

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yeah You're gross.

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I'm looking at I'm looking at a trial at the moment. Yeah How much sleep Did you avoid you sound tired he told the funny thing is the I am really tired I had it I was like wow great. Work me out with a coffee again. Which was amazing. Now I think it's the

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it's it's maybe the time in which I'd like I've just my mind has been thinking constantly of especially on shoot days if you're if you do a video or anything like that and it's probably so many other industries to shoot days have this heightened sense of okay we're moving everything we need to like we're doing this thing we need to be prepared and so it's the legwork the day before and the evening before to be like I'm getting all the edits I need to get done yeah yeah in the can and with this shit internet so can you just tell me because

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I want to tell I want you to tell me about the story of when you went to the shoot Yeah

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sure. I find when I was at the fiber guide I see you worked at the fire brigade Metropolitan fiber guide I was debating 2020 or 21 thing was 20 to debate to a little JJ What

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were you waiting in

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19 or 20 over 100 you were and what

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do I now

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lane machine not quite yet but getting there are sure ginsburg and I were

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makin on on the Instagram as well as sliding into

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Yeah, just chatting about Weiss and shit like that. Is lane lane easily as a whip it but yeah, he trains you've just optimize the diet. Yeah. Well, so he will talk I was talking about that sort of my next next Yeah, my you 80% there? Yeah. 90. Okay. No, I never said really

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needed have

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10% anyway. So I am you know, so actually, I would have been 20 and it was

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just driving you Melbourne gatekeeper. Yeah,

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I think I'm trying to think of it. Yeah, it would have been like a similar time. Maybe it was even when I was like,

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19, 2009. I was 19. And it was an interesting role. Because I'd come out of I was working for myself, I'd done like a year out of school, working with myself, like working my own business, freelancing. And I was working at my parents house and it was just like, one of those times where

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to thinking about the struggle of like, this is going on nearly 10 years ago now and how disconnected I was in the sense of I was working Eric at my parents house trying to I'm trying to like have clients and stuff but I was working from home so you could barely see like, I would work from my mates had a office in the main street of Barrick or whatever, which is like suburban Melbourne. And I would sometimes go in there. But yeah, I was pretty disconnected and isolated, and I found the some my isn't that remote remote workplace yet you will live in the Dre was Yeah, it was it was it was an ideal, but I am yet MFB had this role that I took on which was like a it was a media producer role. It was tied up in this traineeship so they paid me peanuts and it was sort of a junior burger role but I was basically that would just using it as cheap labor summer God so I was doing all the stuff everyone else was doing but there was a there was a time out golf and film all different types of things so some stuff was really cool like fire drills or doing safety videos or we even had there was this show called

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all hands It was called own hands just come blank I think was total hands yeah and it was a weekly show sort of like if you're in Australia the footy show the panel show but they're all firefighters yeah on the show and they talk about the best like fire fight incidences of the week so that I go, you know, we had this waste, yeah, we we had, oh, you know, just like the highlight one. So, they'll be like, Oh, you know, had this had this fire in Brighton. And we've got you know, john line he was there might tell us about it. It's like, yeah, the we had X amount of trucks there. Blah, blah, blah. I'm actually been to that. Yeah, I mean, the funny thing was, it was it was a that was dropping so much money on this production that would actually have all these people from Channel Nine who were worked for the footy show stuff coming for the day to be the camera operators and stuff. It was just so over baked. And it was live to every fi if every Metropolitan fire

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fire fire station station, so

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they would be able to watch it live. Yeah, so

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they'll watch it live and or something. So that just gives you some of the quirks but so I was one of these times had to go to Karen downs, which was far out so it's 40 minutes, 45 minutes from Barrick Yeah, but I was going from

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North Fitzroy, where there were the MFB

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like Media Production

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we had to go to every day. Yeah, so, Fitzroy Yes, I was released an hour to Karen downs. Yeah.

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So it took ages. Yeah. And so I

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drove all the way there met with the person who was running all the trainings that hey, I'm Josh, I sort of prided myself on being a being quite good at talking to them and all that sort of thing. Yeah, I gave me the safety gear that too, where I said, I'm just gonna go back to the car and get all the gear went to my bag, opened up the bag, taken the camera bag, but not the camera.

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And that was I could imagine your nose would have just had beads of sweat. Yeah, in one second. It was I was slightly but the good thing about it because I was a bit of a junior burger. Yeah, it was lucky because I'm like, Okay, this is just part of the process. This is like you had once I've actually said yeah, I actually I was like, I definitely was a little bit panicked. But the thing is, it was a it was a government agency and it was this little department that had just been just before I'd arrived and they independently audited and had been slammed and so just like this is like a massive waste of resources and money and all that sort of thing and so my boss was who take like a lot of sick leave and also thing but he was it was what he was good at was empathizing to bang sheet at you, Joe. Yes, Josh? I pulled for cities last month. Yeah,

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exactly. So I get it buddy. Yeah, we all we all make mistakes and

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there was no reprimand he didn't that

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I didn't get in trouble we were they they specifically for you to film or were they just do agile just during training anyway, so that was okay, that that does remind me might as well just get this as the the stories of working fiber guy can I

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just ask quickly because you'd probably know this I always heard that if you were in the training to become a firefighter if you stepped up to steps at once you would file Yeah Is that true

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yeah I think I remember hearing that too because it was like because that's more exertion then going out one at a time so you have a big pack on it's like this huge there's yeah the truck the the onboarding or like the to be able to get into the fiery yet is really intense and they the coolest stuff that I got to do was filming the hi angle rescue team so I would go to like the top of

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like the Telstra building and the city and I would have style of edge so we got like access to the roof that was heaps of fun. So you leaning over the side leaning over side filming and then there was another place which was where the huge I don't even know what the terminology is now at the big cranes that taken the

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important Melbourne you know how there's the the ships that come in with the what are those school rectangle things go

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Yeah, yeah, the big cargo Yeah. What is the cargo containers? containers

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the crane things that type of containers Yeah,

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they look like he like they look like giraffes yeah from a father this huge big middle structure

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Yeah. So though I've gone on to one of them yet on the top and was filming on that which was scary because it's sort of like honeycomb sort of metal yeah flooring so you can see all the way down but they would absolutely love that so I got some to do some pretty cool experiences got to film in some interesting locations but I remember when we were doing the all hands show the

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on our final episode The Christmas episode we wanted the same

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I said I'll go back I'll do that the final bit and then I'll explain what happened there was a stench in the office was end of December and it and it's something had died in the office. It was like a big we have this big warehouse with the whole studio studio and all that sort of thing. And yet there was it got to the point where we got pest control to come in and try and sort out Brady's just trying to get Archie to come outside to Delhi take a dump. Thanks

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for doing that. But

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he's not taking just to be clear. He hasn't he hasn't gone yet. bruiser.

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Yeah so we had a pest control because it was really like 40 degree days it was hot and just stunk like something had died so

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we're smell mate I had things die under our house and then the then the

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possums within the heating the central heating Harry the smell and push it out warm into the how has smelled like dead possum. Anyway, does it smell? It's feral? Yeah,

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so it turns out what it was was on the Christmas episode

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so a month earlier we want to have the same where the the show opened with a fiery pulling out burnt chicken from the other and they had a whole kitchen set and so what we did was we had gone to the shops bought a raw chicken and painted at Black

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The problem was that we'd forgotten about it and kept it in the on the set

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and it would get to 40 degrees like it was going through that time was like 40 degrees Yeah, every day we had a real stint of hot weather and it turns out that the disgusting chicken had just been rotting and the pest control founder is Gordon pacing Shall we got this boys yet? Chicken haven't seen this one for chicken and haven't Yeah, the old raw chicken in an oven would they would have been like wat ease these. I mean, the whole thing was a bit of a circus. I don't know if I can get in trouble for saying all this. But it was a it was a hilarious time you could have done a mockumentary, the stuff that I would film it was the same stuff every year. So that would do like the firefighter Olympic type stuff. So you'd go and film all different sports. I would film

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anyone who's who was retiring

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this like a bunch of these dudes pushing themselves. Like when you say sports, it's like they're competing. Yeah, so yeah,

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so the fires would have all these different bike events that that'd be a part of. So that would be like, I think it was called the firefighter games or something. So it's like all the different fires competing in different sports. I wonder if they're still doing they 100% would be I know that they reduced the that team to be like the core team now. And they like all had to move to head office in East Melbourne. But man, what an interesting time a whole studio it would have been at the rent on that space would have been a couple hundred thousand, maybe 150,000 a year for the, for the space in North Fitzroy. good spot. Yeah. And it was it was an interesting, interesting time. So quirky, but I got to do some interesting stuff. made a documentary went up to

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Marysville after Black Saturday. So it was it was during that time so it would have been so when was Black Saturday? 2011 genuine fair?

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Yes. I'm assuming summit muscling 20. It was a civvy bushfire in Victoria for all our Japanese Japanese listen. Yeah.

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So it was interesting because I got to go up to Marysville interview the bakery that the the lady who owned the bakery, one of the only

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things that sort of survived the fire was really interesting, because he's someone who,

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whose bakery was fine. But she had this tremendous guilt because she's like those people over the crossroad. They died. Those people died, died, actually died. And so there was it, she ended up moving away from that area. Anyway, just the severity of it quickly. I know a cop who went up one like after, yeah,

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just happened.

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It was people who had been because when there's a bushfire, there's like, this wind that can come through creates like a storm. Yeah, the fire, you know, they say, like fireballs and travel, there was people that had been blown into barbed wire fences and burnt and he was there to see the bodies and inspect it for the city was the most traumatic fucking experience he's ever had. Well, I think Yeah, because I and he's probably eating a donut from the bakery says it wasn't open

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yet. It was open.

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I can't, I can't even remember it. Really a different vibe now that it's quite sad. Like the VM. It's one of those things where it's like, you've got this old town and everyone's sort of got post traumatic stress, and most people have left. And so it's been all they've tried to inject money into it to make it a thing again, but it's just got this gloomy sort of vibe. But the you know, I remember the speaking with the people who were involved in the identification of bodies. And so that, yeah, so that would go into the houses. I think I caught like, this is sort of dark humor associated with it, where they're like, I think the bodies were called Krispies, which is like a dead body from the fire chief. And they would

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you kind of go I mean, I one minute it's like, oh, that's, that's disgusting. They say that, but on the other side, they dealing with such a serious thing, and then we'll bring them out

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a lot of respect as well to write because the thing is that everyone would tell a story. So some people would be found in their pool or that'd be found that that'd be old. Like, together on one area of the house. I

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say I go

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in like these. You know, it's like, I go down the rabbit hole of things recently. It's been some in London. Yeah, that's how I've been just watching so much stuff for a few years light on that one now, but exactly. I've already gone down this before. And now I'm just doing it again. For some reason I got really into understanding the CIA and how they approach this be loud. And anyway, you know what? Zero Dark 30 stands for you. Have you heard that movie about it? It just means 1230 It's when they did the right doc then 30 Zero Dark 30

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I never knew that was this some sort of Hollywood title that was created with noisy or was actively term that they use where we're going in to the compound at zero dark 30? Okay, what they said

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so what would be like 9am? Yeah, I don't know but i just i just doc

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Zero Dark 30 and nine light and they gave they gave up in Latin and name Yeah, I think was Geronimo. Okay, so they like eyes on drama. Geez. Oh,

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really? Getting it? How much shifts necessary? versus just trying to act like top dog? Yeah.

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Anyway, I went down a rabbit hole of looking into fire shelters. So I was thinking like, why don't we have like and these places Why isn't there just underground fire shelters and so I looked into it and the sniper expensive yeah yeah around 20 grand and I asked Scott pipe you're barefoot investor or went out to his property we his whole house burned down and some shape died and anyway I was like dude Do you have a fire shelter is that now a bit expensive and we'll just hide in the money vote

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really expensive and they're not they're not actually that great that's all we talked about. But then I looked up a company in Melbourne that creates them yeah and I sort of reading some fine print here's the thing with fire shelters

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you could suck the oxygen out assumption or what's the order that you only get like 40 minutes of oxygen yeah in them so they can be it was a huge industry I mean this is like anything but when something happens a huge industry comes following and so the amount of these fire bunker company I remember saying I am a huge with like a fire bunker on a trailer and it would like drive around it's like a promo type of like if

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I if they bury them so this was like the this was this was the one that goes underground you know this is the one that they would then install Yeah, they dig out a whole put it down barrier it's full on people. People have been actually using them as man caves just doing a bit of a runner I've been really thinking about making a video with one of these companies just because I'm interested in checking out some of these fire these fire we should do a episode yeah

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from a fire fire bunker bunker be interesting everyone. It's the daily talk show. Send your emails high the daily talk show.com we've got some filming to do so we better go but have a good one. So you guys see a Monday I believe it's Friday when I five on Monday. Yeah.

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