
Audio Episode
Crystal Andrews 1000 Minute Live Stream
This week we’re celebrating the best bits from our 1000 minute live stream.
At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –Crystal Andrews describes the unexpected exhaustion of working alone after going freelance, despite enjoying the independence it offers.
- –Both Crystal and the hosts express skepticism about the practical value of formal business plans for small, evolving businesses.
- –Crystal attributes some of her dislike of social media to feeling obligated to be on it for work, which drained the enjoyment from it.
- –Crystal suggests Australia's vaccine rollout messaging may have been politically 'massaged' to cover delays, while still personally supporting vaccination.
- –The episode showcases the show's loose, improvisational daily format, including live deliveries, mock apologies, and a visiting community member putting golf balls for prizes.
Questions this episode answers
What does Crystal Andrews say is hard about running her own business, ZFeed?
She says she didn't expect how draining it would be to work alone all the time, despite enjoying the autonomy, and that she struggles with comparing herself to other business owners on social media.
What was the controversial Navy ship dance troupe story discussed on the show?
A Jamaican dancehall dance troupe was booked to perform at an Australian Navy ship christening ceremony, which came across as an odd mismatch of tone, and Crystal notes some of the media backlash had undertones of slut-shaming.
What is Crystal Andrews' view on Australia's COVID-19 vaccine rollout?
She says public sentiment shifted from hesitancy to excitement once a rollout timeline was announced, then back to hesitancy after blood clot reports, and suspects some of the messaging around delays may have been politically motivated.
Episode TranscriptShow
Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad.
Josh: That's crazy! We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.
Tommy: Hi guys.
Crystal: Hi guys.
Josh: Put it in the calendar. I'd just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.
Tommy: It is outrageous.
George: Come on, let's go.
Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show episode 1000 with Crystal. This feels better. There we go.
Tommy: Welcome back to the show.
George: How are you?
Josh: Yeah, how you going?
Crystal: I'm good. I'm really good. It's Friday. I have this to look forward to, which is always nice.
Tommy: Yeah. Nice. Crystal, are you still freelancing? Are you running your own show? Have you been snapped up by some sort of media conglomerate that doesn't deserve you but wants you?
Crystal: No, no. I'm still running ZFeed full-time, doing a bit of freelancing, bit of consulting. And it's, it's really hard. It's fucking hard, not gonna lie. I feel like that's definitely not a surprise to you guys, but it's difficult but, um, more rewarding.
Tommy: Yeah, 100%.
Josh: What's, what's been the, the most interesting learning in the past sort of 12 months, do you think?
Crystal: Um, I think I'm one of those people that doesn't necessarily enjoy— do you know what, it's making me sound like I'm really special. I feel like most people agree with this. I have not enjoyed the office politics and like the stress of working with people in an office when you're in like these bigger businesses. And that's just, you know, that's part of it. Sometimes it's great, but when it's stressful, it's like really drags you down. And so while I have loved being on my own, working from the apartment, like, you know, I get to make my own decisions, run my own show, and nobody runs interference on what I do. It has surprised me how draining it is to only be in your own company all the time. Like, I thought I would love it, and I do enjoy it, but it's— it can be quite exhausting.
Tommy: Do you think you're energised by people in the office? Is it— I mean, that's an extrovert, isn't it? They get their energy from other people.
Crystal: Yeah, yeah. I don't think— that's definitely not me. I'm more of an introvert, and I get energy from being my own. But I think I've realised you can't just be only on your own or only with people. Like, even We're the introverts. We still need a little bit of— I still need a little bit of interaction, which is why this is really nice and fun. So thanks for having me.
Tommy: Well, eating your favourite food gets boring. It's like you get annoyed with it. You're like, I don't like that anymore.
Crystal: Yeah.
Tommy: If you love your own company, you can get sick of your own company. Yeah, definitely.
Josh: Do you think that there's a certain sort of element that you wish that you knew before you went into it all? Like things like misconceptions?
Crystal: Do you know what? I think if I— I think when you know these things beforehand, you don't necessarily appreciate, um, hearing what it is in practice. Yeah, like, I couldn't say anything that I wasn't told before or that people don't know going into it. You just don't actually understand until you do it what that means. Yeah, like you guys were talking the other day about, um, investing in stocks and how you wish you'd done that earlier. But like, would you actually have done it in your 20s? Because it's not that people weren't talking about it, right? You just don't do it because you're just not there yet.
Josh: Exactly. Well, it's like I always say that if I was doing year 12 now, I would smash it. I reckon I'd get a really good—
Mason: Weird flex.
Josh: Weird one.
Crystal: Do you mean like doing year 12 now with everything that you know now? Like taking all of your—
Josh: Exactly.
Crystal: —additional 15 years worth of knowledge? Yeah, you'd probably—
Josh: It's probably unfair. You'd probably say that you'd hope that I'd do that, but I just feel like I didn't do homework growing up at all. Like, I just didn't do homework, whereas I would do homework now, I reckon. Would you? Yeah, I know.
Tommy: Like, I think the same. I'm like, I could be a good study— Like, I could go to university now. I'm more equipped because I'm 30-something. It's like, fucking geez, took me a while. Crystal, hard question. You're across the news. Yeah, I was ready for this. The dancing look like cheerleaders at a boat that has blown up into some kind of thing on news sites. Can you give us the lowdown on this?
Crystal: Oh, bless their souls. I can. I actually can give you the lowdown on this. Great. So, a Navy ship, a new Australian Navy ship, they like commission them. I don't really know what that means, but it's basically like, this is ours. When naming it, here it is, celebration ceremony for the boat.
Josh: It seems sort of old school, doesn't it? It feels like some sort of weird, like, mediaeval thing.
Crystal: It's like the old, like, you know, smashing the champagne bottle against the side of the boat. Like, yes, I think it's that. I think that's the whole ceremony of it. Big deal in the Navy. My partner, who is in the Navy, is probably going to watch this and be like, she's fucking butchering it. But anyway, so that's quite a, you know, it's quite a ceremonial thing. And someone within Defense, who's arranging this kind of like christening ceremony for this new ship, has booked a dance troupe to do a performance. Um, and they— I think they were like Jamaican dancehall troupe. Um, so that's like really cool. It's like a great skill to have, like very fun, but maybe not the right kind of vibe for a ship christening ceremony. And so, you just had like all of the very official Defence and Navy people sitting there on these little like fold-out chairs in front of this big boat. Nothing else. It's not like this is a parade or like a carnival or anything. And these poor dancers who've, you know, they've just been booked for a job, right? Someone calls you up and say, hey, we want you to come and perform at this thing. This is the rate. Great, we'll be there. They've just turned up and kind of looked around and gone, oh, well, this is the job. There was like high kicks.
Tommy: When you said the way— if I heard you, Crystal, explain the way you just did then, like if I was the person sort of in charge of like signing off without really knowing too much about what the event organisers were doing, oh, that sounds great, Jamaican dances. And like, it didn't have that vibe. I got— you sent it to the group, was like, this is quite funny. Yeah, I immediately thought it was overseas. It was some sort of news over in America or Germany or something, something like that. That makes no sense, but I would have signed it off, definitely hearing your pitch. It had the vibe of like cheerleaders at the UFC before.
Josh: But cheerleaders, so like, Crystal, uh, cheerleaders okay in 2021? Where do we sit on cheerleaders? I mean, I don't know.
Crystal: Personally, I don't find it that interesting. Yeah. Um, but I don't know, I think it depends. I feel like it depends on the atmosphere of the event.
Josh: Yeah, sure. Super.
Crystal: Yeah, I don't know, maybe if they could be more— a more diverse group of people, maybe. I don't really know. I think if it fits the vibe of the event, like even with this, this story, if there was other stuff going on, it might not have seemed so inappropriate. But just the fact that it was only that, like it was just a dance troupe, like no other fanfare, is what makes it weird.
Josh: Well, I think I saw a, um, some headline where it was like, um, the ABC was slut-shaming or something like that in regards to like how they edited it or presented, uh, the dance.
Crystal: Um, I mean, there's a lot of, um, a lot of other stuff I think wrapped up in how people have reacted to the storey because, you know, the women who are in this dance troupe, right? Like, that's what they do. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. But I think the way that people were ridiculing it, and that includes a lot of sections of the media as well, it has a lot of undertones of slut-shaming and sexism. Because it's not necessarily that style of dancing that's inappropriate. It's the environment that was just not a right fit. And then also, I think the other thing with the ABC is the way that they'd spliced the videos together, um, or edited them together, was to suggest that the Governor General was there watching the dance, but they actually weren't. They arrived after that had finished. So it's like a little bit of—
Josh: Yeah, um, business, uh, business plans. When you went out, uh, doing your own thing, did you have one at all? I did.
Crystal: I still have it. I haven't looked at it in a while. It's been like maybe nearly, maybe 5 months on my own. But I think when I made the business plan originally and what it is now would be very different. I don't know, like, how often do you guys revisit what you originally—
Tommy: oh, like a business plan?
Crystal: Yeah. Question 1: do you have a business plan?
Tommy: Absolutely not. No, I think it would— talking about it constantly. And like you said, you're in it navigating it. I think it's like you can have a rough idea of wanting to— what kind of business you want to have.
Josh: I wonder if we would have— I wonder if we would have had more luck with a business plan.
Tommy: I don't think so. Not for what we do. Not for the kind of operators we are.
Josh: Yeah. What do you think that is?
Tommy: I think there's a version of testing and learning that isn't on paper. And that wouldn't make sense in a business plan. That's the thing. So, you need a— if you want to get a loan as a business, we would have to form a business plan that would just outline everything. We would be more equipped to do it right now than ever. But early days, it's— yeah, it wasn't our forte. Imagine how much we'd get bogged down in trying to work out the future of something we have no idea about.
Josh: What did your business plan look like, Crystal?
Crystal: I feel like it was 2 or 3 pages and just outlined who I wanted to talk to, who I want to talk to with ZFeed, what the revenue streams were going to be, which I think that part is probably kind of there, like it's kind of matches. Um, but the tricky thing in the beginning I think is mapping out what growth looks like, because when you're starting you don't really have any idea of what's achievable. Well, that's what I feel anyway. It's like I, I could set this goal and say I want to, you know, make X amount of dollars by the end of the year, or have this size audience, or whatever it is, but it's really just a stab in the dark. Um, and I, I don't like that. I don't like feeling as if I'm guessing. Um, so I think what I'll do is, um, when I sit down and look at everything at tax time is just have a bit of a reconfiguration of what the rest of the year looks like with some actual evidence behind it. Yeah, which makes a lot of sense.
Tommy: I think, I think maybe for some people they need the structure of a business plan. Sounds like you— it was the process. How long did that take you? That's the thing, if it takes you months and months and months and you haven't started anything, got no— no, not long.
Crystal: Like, I don't know, business plan took like a day to put together, but then following it through is— that whole other bit. That's the hard bit. Yeah. I mean, what have you learned?
Josh: Like, so with ZFeed, you built a lot of your initial following through social media. Where and what have you learned through everything that's happened in the last 6 months?
Crystal: Um, I've learned that I personally don't like using social media. I don't like being on Instagram, which I know you guys have spoken about a lot. Um, so I think as soon as A lot. Yeah, a lot. And that might just be like because we've had to spend so much time on it for work, like maybe that's what's made me not enjoy it. I don't know if you guys feel the same. It's like feeling as if you had to be there was what took kind of the fun out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very true.
Tommy: And so that is a tricky thing to navigate because it seems like it's a— I mean, most— there'll be a lot of people that would only consume your Instagram account, which is then there you— that's your captive audience or customer. Yeah, 100%, 100%.
Crystal: But I think that'll be like the first thing when I bring someone else into this. I kind of feel like that's the first person I'll look at because I'll be like, someone who enjoys doing this, here you go, you can have it, and I can focus on everything else. Which probably is like a good strategic thing to do anyway because there's something about just like being the weeds— in the weeds every single day does kind of make it hard to like step back and look at everything and make sure that you're heading in the right direction.
Tommy: It's a tricky balance. Third compliment for today for Josh. Josh, you've done a great job of not being on social media, but not only that, fourth compliment. It's actually double. Oh, great. So can I add?
Josh: Can I have four? Yeah, I appreciate it.
Tommy: A great job at what that means and how you're actually taking that on. Because a lot of the time there's been so much from you that has been about what it meant to actually be on social media and what would it mean if you weren't posting, which you can see it's you've changed thinking. Nothing else has changed. The world hasn't changed. Social media hasn't changed. Still the same shit that you called it out for being in 2009. But it's, uh, yeah, congratulations on that. Thank you. Um, Crystal, what is it for you, um, in terms of social media and what you don't like about it? And, and yeah, how do you moderate it?
Josh: How do you, how do you like, how do you have a business and, uh, hate or, you know have a disdain for something that is potentially a revenue generator and an audience builder?
Crystal: Um, I mean, like, how— and maybe this is why on a personal level I think I'm bad at moderating my own time in it. Like, I can't be— it's like I just can't be responsible with my use of social media. I just get sucked in. And so it's like then you realise you're spending all this time in something which just changes the way that you like feel. It changes the way you think. Like, there's so much information out there about how these platforms actually do this to us, kind of like to our brains on a psychological level. So, I think maybe it's just that I'm not very good at regulating. And so, I need the distance from it to be able to like do the other shit in my life. What is it?
Tommy: Tell us this at a moment that it's, that it's been pretty negative for you, if you don't mind sharing.
Josh: What'd you say like that?
Tommy: I don't know, I felt like I had to ask.
Josh: Yeah, I was trying to be light.
Crystal: I mean, I feel like it's the same as what a lot of people feel, where you just kind of start to feel shitty about yourself because it's that whole storey about it being a highlight reel. Like, everybody else's lives look amazing, and I'm sure I'm guilty of perpetuating that with like how I curate my social media as well. So just looking at it and comparing— like, I spoke about this a little bit at the end of last year, like, I'm terrible for comparing myself to other people, other people running their own businesses who are like similar to mine and also not that similar to mine. It's just when you're looking at everybody else's high points but you're sitting on your own in your apartment, you've had a shitty day, You know, nobody can get in to see a freaking therapist at the moment because they're like all so booked out and you're just at this low point. Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad right now. Yeah, I, um, tried to make an appointment with a therapist I was seeing at the end of last year, like about a month ago, and they just straight up like, it's waitlist if like they, uh, lose a client. Basically, they're at complete capacity.
Josh: When they say lose a client, hopefully that's That's true. That's probably bad.
Crystal: They've had a success storey and someone does not need them anymore.
Tommy: Yeah, they fixed the person. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh: You don't like— I even wonder about that, even like when it came to golf, like with the golf coach. And I thought to myself, I was like, hey, I'm picking a coach that's very available. My concern was, are they— it's like a quiet restaurant. Yeah, are they available for a reason? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Crystal: Or are you just like really ahead of the curve of like, yeah, yeah, are you getting in early? And now you have to hold that place with that coach. You do not let it go.
Tommy: Yeah, he's Bitcoin 2007.
Josh: You're holding, you're playing the long game. I mean, do you, um, Crystal, do you have any interest in golf?
Crystal: No. Okay, okay. End of conversation.
Josh: No, I respect the willingness to to have some banter with the golf.
Tommy: That was good fun. Little thing you mentioned, which is your partner's in the Navy. That's cool. Yes. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. What does that mean to be in the Navy in 2021? I forgot what year it was.
Josh: He doesn't get motion sick, I guess. Are all Navy people on ships?
Tommy: That's my question. Yeah. What is going on being in the Navy?
Crystal: So, his storey is a little bit interesting. I don't think he's watching, but hi, Pierre, if you are. I think my parents are watching if they manage to find— navigate the links and everything. So, hi, Mum and Dad. Um, so he is— he's in the Navy, but he's currently studying medicine. I feel like I've told this storey before, maybe not. Um, so he is a full-time uni student right now, um, but once he's done, he'll be a doctor in the Navy and then has to serve out like his contract to them. Um, like the time that you take to study and finish the degree, like everything, all of the internship and everything, you then have to give them that time back as a doctor on your contract. Oh, that's interesting. That's— yeah, at some point he'll be posted to a ship, and if that ship gets, you know, sent out somewhere, then he'll have to go. Um, but, you know, yeah, that's kind of how it works. Not everybody's on a ship.
Tommy: Yeah, and not all ships are deployed to war. Like, I mean, yeah, my grandpa was in the Navy for a while and he never went out, but he did— they did go and test stuff. It is amazing. Sydney's a different thing, like living near the harbour and Woolloomooloo, you've got the wharf there where the Navy is. It's sick seeing these big ships, and sometimes they do like runs out. You can see them past Bondi Beach, like the big ship out doing some kind of drill. It's sick. But it's a different world. It's so cool. Yeah, love it.
Crystal: I always get amazed, like, you know, all ships are that kind of greyish, greenish, bluish colour. But when you see that, like, out on the water, it actually camouflages really well. Like, they're very hard to see just being painted in all that colour. Never ceases to blow my mind every time we drive past Wollongong.
Josh: Does Pierre have any interest in all the stuff, like the stuff that's happening in the South China Sea? When you are in sort of the Navy and all that sort of thing, are you taking an interest in geopolitics or like what's happening and wars and stuff?
Crystal: I think it probably varies, like, from person to person. He personally is very interested in that stuff, um, and he did a counter-terrorism degree before starting his medical degree, so he's just interested in that in general. But it probably varies, right? Like, I don't, I don't necessarily think every single person in the Navy or in Defence in general is tuned into that kind of news on like a daily basis, just like any industry, I think. Yeah, it just varies. We have—
Josh: He's super into it, though. GB is at the— He's our archivist today.
George: That's what the coat's for. Yeah.
Tommy: Not high fashion, which it is.
George: Yeah. And do you think that it's actually what I would wear? What sort of—
Josh: No, it looks great. Maybe. No, it actually— I actually think that you've nailed the look. It looks fantastic. JB, have you got a clip that we could play? So yeah, I just—
George: I'll just duck into the cupboard to get something from the archives, Crystal. All right, now, um, okay, I found something. I'm nervous. All right, well, this actually isn't— Okay, I'm popping out of the cupboard now. Um, I just thought I'd get your opinion on this one, Crystal, because you're an expert with apologies and You know, you think that you're going to be cancelled at some point.
Tommy: Oh, yeah. You said that on hump day, didn't you?
George: Yeah. She's been studying apologies, I believe, just in case she needs to make one. And so, this is an apology that Josh made. And maybe we can just get some feedback and some tips on what he needs to do better or whether it's a good apology. Okay, great. Let's go. America.
Josh: I wanted to do a quick apology before we go. Okay. Yep. Yesterday I was making a joke and I referred to my sweaty people as, no, my sweaty brow. And when I did it, I was referring to my upper lip. That is in fact not a brow. The brow, I realised after Mr. 97 put together the highlights bit, a brow is a person's forehead. It'd really been bothering me.
Tommy: Hang on, so a brow, I mean, not your eyebrow. Your brow is above your forehead.
Josh: Yes. Not the below you. Yeah. I mean, so, GB, you want to know from Crystal?
George: Can I just say I didn't hear the small people bit when I was editing.
Josh: So, where's Tommy? Should Crystal, should Tommy do a quick apology?
Crystal: I don't think I heard an apology in that. Interesting.
Josh: This is— Well, that's, I think, is that bad work by George? Is this a trick?
Crystal: Because I think we have to say, I'm sorry.
George: Yeah. Yeah.
Tommy: For it to be an apology.
Josh: Can you, George, look up, I'm sorry, and see what we can find?
Tommy: There is guilt from me for sure. It's like saying, oh, who's here? We've got a delivery that's come in.
Josh: Somebody's exciting. Oh, this is exciting. That's a cane dog. What is that? I'm going to change your view so you can see it as well.
Tommy: Looks like he wants to get out of here.
Josh: There you go. You'll be able to.
Tommy: He's got 4 other deliveries. But yeah, people not saying sorry in the apology, but then somehow crafting it to feel like one. That happens a lot. Not saying that's what you did.
Josh: Yes. No. Well, I mean, it was, let's be honest, it was silly. So, George is just walking down now. JB, you're going to turn on your mic and the camera.
Tommy: Okay, all right, here we go. Crystal, all right, get ready for this. I just got a car there and this guy's freaking out.
Josh: Maybe don't get their faces. Thank you. What is this?
George: Oh, thanks. Where are you from? Uber? Oh, thanks.
Tommy: Okay, great, good to clarify. Safety first.
Crystal: Okay, what's the branding on that bag? I couldn't—
Josh: yeah, there was a lot of brands.
Tommy: Okay. But I don't think you can get any deliveries from Kmart. Wow. I am getting a bit peckish if this is food.
George: This is amazing.
Crystal: It doesn't look like food.
Josh: It sort of has, um—
Tommy: Crystal, what's your guess?
Josh: What do you think this is? It's IGA. Okay, this is good. Okay, do you want to have a look at it?
Crystal: Okay, maybe it is food then. Maybe there's snacks in there.
Josh: Okay. GB, do you want to go to the couch and open it?
Tommy: Yeah, do an unboxing on the couch.
Josh: Okay, here we go. Um, all right, this is great.
Tommy: Sorry, Crystal, we will get back to your thoughts on the apology, or I'm pretty cool if we move on after what I heard. All right, all right, so we've got crumpets.
George: Oh yes! Oh, French vanilla cheesecake.
Tommy: Oh, with the biscuit bottom. Yummy. Who's this from? I don't know.
George: Yeah, it doesn't say.
Tommy: This is the thing, we don't know any party pies.
Josh: Party yum.
Tommy: Oh yeah, you know what, we have the air fryer here, we can get those party pies going.
George: Ah, perfect. Uh, 2 fruits in juice.
Tommy: Amy loves that, she's coming in for lunch on the couch.
George: Yeah, good, because I got 2 of them.
Crystal: This is like a full grocery shop.
Josh: Yeah, I know, it's amazing. You sure Jestice didn't get her groceries sent here?
Tommy: Pines apple.
Josh: Baby food for Josh.
Tommy: It's actually nice. I'll have some too.
George: Fisherman friend.
Josh: Oh yeah, yeah, I'd love a mint.
George: Yeah, chuck them. Thanks, Josh. Um, this is a lot more baby food. Yeah, uh, more baby food maybe. Yeah, yeah, it's okay, Josh. Here we go, this one's for you, Josh. Okay. Oh, oh, maple syrup, maple syrup.
Josh: Oh, beautiful.
George: Put that on crumpets, that'd be delicious.
Tommy: Who is this person? Yeah, who is it? Any info in there? No, there's nothing.
Josh: That's from Whitey. It's from me, he says. Whitey! Thank you, Whitey. We got a bunch of cuts coming your way.
Tommy: Are you still popping past, Whitey?
Josh: Let us know. Oh, that's right. So the crumpet— I mean, crumpets, you'll heat them up?
Tommy: Yeah, we've got the toaster, or you could do them in the air fryer.
Josh: We can do it. Crystal, do you like crumpets?
Crystal: I love a crumpet. Crumpet hot out of like the toaster. With butter. So good. And that just makes me feel like you've just come from home, home from school, and you're like 11. Perfect afternoon snack.
Tommy: Oh, and you're 11 years old, is that what you're saying?
Crystal: You're 11 years old, yeah, 4 o'clock in the afternoon, crumpets in the toaster. Just take me back.
Tommy: Toast and crumpets after— Yeah, man, there's something about— Yeah, just, I wish I could Remember when you never, you didn't care about eating bread as a child? Like, really young.
Josh: I stopped like about a year ago.
Tommy: Or you went back to not caring. Yeah. Because I think we all start off probably not caring about a lot of things in life. Like, I look at Bodhi and wonder, you know, what he doesn't care about.
Josh: And so, anyway. I mean, Crystal, not to beat a dead horse, because we obviously don't do that. But also, in regards to what you eat, What's the latest update? Have you changed what you eat for breakfast or, you know, what your whole eating routine is? Actually, yes.
Crystal: Oh, this is huge. This is humongous.
Tommy: This is humongous. I can't believe this. Put it all in.
Crystal: Exclusive fan out, whatever happens to that.
Josh: I know. Oh my God. I should bring it back. You know what? I reckon I could probably try and bring it in. You might be really— But you've got to start. Just start talking, Crystal, while I—
Crystal: While I do this, I'm just waiting for the banner. Yeah, look, we brought a few new meals into the rotation. Um, so I'm doing like a little stacked salmon, avocado, hummus, tomato, um, cheese sometimes on like rice crackers for lunch. That's delightful. Uh, chickpea bowls, those are in rotation now, which is really good. We've swapped out some of the meats that we were eating for chicken. It's riveting stuff.
Josh: I mean, I, I appreciate, like, where does it come from, the desire to be so organised like that?
Crystal: Uh, time, time saving, purely. Yeah, sure. It just saves you so much time thinking. That's like my least favourite thing about preparing food. I don't mind, I quite enjoy cooking, but I don't like thinking about what to make or what to eat. So if someone else decides like, this is the meal we're having, I'm happy to make it, but I don't want to choose.
Tommy: No, that's fair. And if— where is that time going? Where are you allocating that to?
Crystal: Social media, just scrolling.
Tommy: Okay, yeah, it seems like you should spend more time cooking because that, that would be better for your mental health. Can I just say, sorry, I asked Jess to get some Blistex my lips are chapped. And, um, I just said, get me a little tub, you know, the little circle tub. She's got me medicated relief. She bought me medical-grade Blistex because it was on sale.
Josh: But if I just, if I just go to put a bit on, it looks like you're making out with Shane Warne. Seriously, it's got that vibe.
Tommy: So I'm, um, it's a real vibe, isn't it? It's a White lip vibe.
Josh: Yeah, yeah. I need, I need to—
Crystal: How does it feel, though?
Josh: Yeah. Does it feel better? I love the nip of Blistex.
Tommy: What does that mean? Like, it's a little bit of a burn. Oh, yeah. I love that.
Josh: Yeah. Are you a fragrance girl, Crystal? Do you like— No, no, no. Candles?
Crystal: I think they irritate. Candles I don't mind, but wearing like perfume, I feel like it irritates me, gives me a headache. I don't know if it's like maybe there's a common ingredient among like a lot of the mainstream fragrances that just I have a sensitivity to.
Josh: Yeah, I am not huge on that. Natural deodorants in the last couple of years, loving that. My latest one, it's like a— this— what is it, like a magnesium? I forgot the brand. Do you use natural deodorant?
Crystal: No, I just use a regular.
Josh: Oh, just a regular. Okay. Yeah, should cheque out some. Sorry, I'm not at that level yet.
Tommy: No, no, it's really a lot of judgment.
Josh: I mean, no, I'm a guy who wears perfume or whatever we call it. Um, that's—
Tommy: no, you're just, uh, cologne, isn't it?
Josh: Cologne. But I also, um, I also wear natural deodorant. I actually like the sort of the waxy sort of— feel like a caveman, you know, just putting on some— What do the cavemen put on?
Tommy: Do that? Well, just, just elements.
Josh: Just grab a look at the back. I want to see the first 20 elements. That's what I want to see. If it's not hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryllium, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, Floriane, I haven't seen any of those. Whisper them, they don't know. Yeah, I wouldn't know either. So I need to, I need to wait, so just, uh, talk amongst, uh, yourselves. Uh, Crystal, feel free. Uh, what I'd love to know, um, for, uh, for GB, uh, is Crystal, has there been any favourite moments, uh, for you over the last little bit, um, that we can maybe bring up, or anything that stands out for you?
Crystal: Oh my gosh, I don't know. See, I feel like I would consider this to be a compliment, so don't take it the wrong way.
George: Oh, this is so great.
Crystal: But when you listen to lots, lots of episodes of The Daily Talk Show, as I do, it's like I'm not necessarily— It's like it's just one show that's constantly going and I don't know that I can— Okay. I know the different moments or the different episodes. Does that sound bad?
Tommy: Well, at the start of every episode, we say the number just so we can be clear that it's a new show. Yeah.
Josh: I usually just skip right past that.
Tommy: No, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. It's, um, I'm sure George could randomly grab one episode or grab two episodes, pick a point, and would be saying the same thing. You can only talk about— but things evolve is what you're saying. The storyline of our journey is evolving and the narrative is changing as we go along, and so is the thinking. Yeah, yeah, that's Very—
Crystal: that's spot on. It feels like a journey that you've taken all of us on. And I've— and, you know, it's like you come in at any point. If you've been listening for a long time, you know, have a break over a few, you know, a couple of weeks or something, and then come back and be able to step right back into that storey because it seems to be following this path, which is pretty amazing because, like, you guys don't necessarily know where it's going. You can try to shape it, but you don't really know where it's gonna go.
Tommy: You don't know where it will land, but you can send it up in the air. I think we've got something else here at the front door, Crystal. Oh, it's wombat, I think. Here we go, hang on. Let's, uh, oh, there's a Daily Talk Show hat. Hang on, here we go. I'm gonna give George the microphone.
Josh: Okay, here we go.
Tommy: Crystal, have you seen someone putt for a cup yet?
Crystal: I, I have watched this morning's putts for the cup. Very impressed. Don't think that I would be as accurate as everybody has been this morning.
Josh: The more negative, the better the putt. So this, this could be, this could be, okay, great. This could be huge for you, Crystal, because what I think is, uh, we could actually— hang on, I'm just gonna, uh, we could actually get Wombat, who's out the front, he could putt for you on your behalf as well. So if he gets, if he gets a cup, you get a cup. How does it sound?
Crystal: Oh, I'm all in. The stakes just got so high. I know.
Josh: All right, so Here we go. Uh, Wombat is here. Wombat, welcome, thank you very much. Welcome, welcome. Uh, okay, so, uh, Wombat, not only are you putting, uh, for yourself to win a cup, you are also putting for Crystal Andrews, who is in Sydney. Are you up for the challenge, Wombat? I will certainly have a go. Okay, perfect. All right, here we go.
George: All right, I'm just going to straighten up the cup.
Josh: Yeah, you could even close the garage door just to give it the full lighting experience.
George: This is huge.
Josh: Sorry. All right, so you get 3 goes.
George: Now, Wombat's a sporty guy. Yeah, okay, here we go.
Josh: Yeah, he's a big cricketer. Yeah, we'll see. All right, and— oh, he's got it! That is huge! Congratulations! Thank you very much. Crystal is wrapped with that. Wow, stoked! Glad I could please you. Um, that was great. Can we, uh, Wombat, can you go get, uh, a couple of, um, the cups now? Sure. Uh, feel free to come up to the, come up to the camera, uh, pick your cups. Here's the camera. Yeah, come up here. Uh, uh, Wombat, we can have a quick, uh, quick interview if you just want to, uh, stand over here. Over here. Come over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wombat, your favourite moment of the Daily Talk Show, are there any that stand out to you?
Mason: I think actually being here. Yeah. Was about 13 months ago, I think it was, just before the first lockdown. That's right. Yeah, actually coming in and sitting with you guys and having a chat.
Josh: That was fun. Oh man, it was funny. It was, it was so different. Hey, Wombat, if you want to come up, sit on the couch. Yeah, sure. Let's, let's get GB, have you got a bit that you could play from that? Yeah. Okay, perfect. Terrible mic technique, GB, but he was holding it. All right, okay.
George: Would you like a drink to take upstairs?
Josh: Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, you can help me. Coke, no sugar.
Tommy: He's got a Jack Daniel's and Coke.
George: All right, up we go, up we go, up we go, up we go.
Josh: All right, um, so I didn't see the shot.
Tommy: Nailed it. Hole in one. Hole in one.
Josh: Hole in one.
Tommy: There's a lot of hole in ones today.
Josh: Alrighty, mate, take a seat in the corner. Uh, so GB, you were saying that you've, um, potentially got a bit that you could, um, you could play? Okay, he's just getting his mic, uh, sorted. So we've just got, uh, Crystal here as well. Wombat, hang on, I'll, I'll just, um, I'm gonna put, uh, change the video source for you, Crystal. There you go. Um, uh, so Crystal, what are you excited about for 2021? What's the rest of the year for you?
Crystal: I am— Look, I'm just hoping to make it to the end of this year, to be honest. We've had, what, 4 months of some of the craziest news in just— Just in Australia. Like, every week it's something. So, I'm pretty tired. Yeah, yeah. The fact that there was nothing kind of crazy that happened this morning I was very happy about because it's always kind of nice to like just go into a weekend not feeling like it was an absolute shit show the past 5 days.
Josh: I am ready. George, hang on, I was gonna mute that. Um, Crystal, on, on that, with the, um, the new stuff of all the vaccine thing, I'm really curious about your perspective on it. Obviously there's been all the blood clot stuff. I don't know if you heard our episode where we're talking about all these things and just feeling a bit sort of funny about, you know, like not being anti-vaxxers, but also just feeling a bit funny when you hear the news. What's your perspective following it along?
Crystal: Yeah, it's, um, it's been very interesting to kind of, uh, see people's reactions change along the storey of like these vaccines, right? Because to me it kind of felt like before there were real tangible vaccines that had been approved for Australia and, you know, when this was kind of like on a more conceptual level, I feel like a lot of people were very skeptical, very hesitant, not sure. And like, I'm not talking about conspiracy theorists or anti-vaxxers, like just regular people were understandably just feeling a bit funny about it all. And then I felt like when they were announced that the rollout was going to actually begin and these were all the levels, this is when people will be getting it, we're aiming for everyone to be done by by October, it kind of shifted and people were ready, like excited almost to receive the vaccine and just start like kind of getting on with life. And some of that hesitancy felt like it had disappeared from the discourse a little bit. Now we're back to where we were before with complications that, I mean, I completely, I completely understand why people are a little bit worried, a little bit scared, it's ultimately a personal choice. But when you put it in the context of some of the other medications, vaccinations, all sorts of different things that are out there, um, me being in the news every day and looking at these things, I can't help but feel like it might have been a little bit political. Yeah, maybe good cover for the fact that Australia was already way off track from the plan that we had laid out to vaccinate people. And so maybe some of these other countries being in a more precarious position and a little bit more hesitant when news of kind of like these isolated blood clotting cases came out, maybe some of our politicians took that as a good opportunity to be like, you know, it's a good excuse for us not being as far along as we were stopping this for the medical reasons and then saying, look, now we don't have a target because we just can't be sure. It changes too often. The flip side of that is unfortunately it scares people again. So yeah, I, I don't really know. I mean, I'm happy to get one and I will be getting one when my turn comes, and I'm not too worried about it in that sense. But I understand why people are, and it's a shame because I feel like that the narrative is being a little bit, um, it's being massaged a little bit, I, I think.
Josh: Yeah, I saw a great tweet where it was like someone was saying, uh, Everyone's always like marketing, always use marketers use the term like immune boosters, like, oh, this will fix your immune, like this will help your immune system. And they're like, a vaccine is like a really great way to like help your immune system. So that got me, I'm like, oh, I don't have to have my little grass shots. What's that called? Boost juice, you know, little. Wheatgrass. Wheatgrass shots. Wheatgrass, yeah.
Tommy: That's about 10 years old. Do they do anything? That was marketing though. Yeah, it was good. Wayne Grass was the thing.
Josh: Uh, so, uh, uh, GB, what do you, uh, what do you have for us?
George: So yeah, last year, um, the start of 2020, when before all the pandemic and stuff, um, it was actually the end of 2019. Yeah. And Wayne was on the comments being like, you guys are idiots, um, saying that 2020 is a new decade. Oh, you had a massive—
Josh: you knew it was a bit hard.
George: I'm paraphrasing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh: Wombat was not happy. He wasn't happy.
George: No. And then I, I blew up because I was like, what's this? What are you on about? Of course it's a new decade. And then we were doing a show all together in here, and then it took me about half an hour to realise that, that there was Wayne.
Josh: Okay. So, and so, uh, you've got a bit of, uh, a snippet for us? Okay, here we go.
George: I've just realised something. Did I— was Wayne the guy that I cracked it at with the 2020 decade?
Josh: This is— this is it. This is— yeah, here we go. Stitch up.
Tommy: Yeah, Wombat V, what are you, dog?
Josh: You're a little— you're a little— all right, so, so now let's go through it. So, Wayne, what do you remember? What was the What do you remember?
Tommy: Can you set it up for us? Give us some context.
Mason: Why? I'm trying to remember what the conversation was. You were talking about the new decade with 2020 kicking in, and I just pointed out that from a mathematical and calendar perspective, a year ending in zero is the end of a 10-year period.
Josh: And yeah, and then George—
George: Dodge didn't exactly agree with that. Pretty, pretty quickly.
Josh: Yeah. So what do you think it is, Dodge?
George: Well, because I thought like 2020, new decade, like we're in the 20s. You know, we're out of the teens, we're going 20s, 30s. But he was taking it all the way back to 1901, which I've realised is right.
Tommy: So then, so a decade consists of how many years?
Mason: Okay, 10 years. Okay, but it's from—
George: a century is from 1901, January 1st, 1901 to 31st of December, 1999.
Mason: No, no. Yeah, a century.
George: A century. Yeah.
Tommy: Oh my God, there's gonna be a punch out.
Josh: I'm loving this banter. I am. Grace is loving the banter too, I can tell. So yeah, I was pretty quick to, to blow up, but yeah, you are right. Oh, that's good. I'm glad we said all that. This is the nicest thing I've ever heard. They both said each other's right.
Tommy: That's nice. Are you— George is just right for apologizing.
Josh: That's what I'm saying.
George: How's that for an apology, Crystal? Sorry, in there at one point.
Tommy: Still didn't hear an apology. Sorry, weak apologies around here.
Josh: I mean, I love it. What I love about that clip is it was when we were trying to make Dodge George's nickname. Oh, that's right. That didn't really stick, did it? Wombat. Geebee. I mean, wombat has. Wombat has, yeah. Eats fruits and leaves. That's the same. Crystal, thank you for all the support. Support and friendship over the last year and a bit or 2 years or whatever it's been now. I can't fucking remember. But yeah, thank you for coming on episode 1,000.
Crystal: Oh, thanks to you guys, too. It's been so much fun and I can't wait to get back into the chat on the other side of this little window. Yes.
Josh: And we will send out that cup that Wombat has won for you. Oh, that's right.
Tommy: Yep. Well done, Wombat.
Crystal: Please do. I'm going to make a really big margarita in that cup. Oh, that's a great idea.
Josh: It's a litre, 32 ounces. It's huge.
Tommy: It's a huge margarita. Turn your social media off, you'll go to town if you— Thanks, Crystal. Have a good one. Catch ya.
Crystal: Thanks, guys.
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