Josh's girlfriend and an Uber driver

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, everyone. I'm Josh Janson.

Tommy: I'm Tommy Jackett.

Josh: And this is a conversation sometimes worth recording.

Tommy: Yeah, I like that. That's a new one. Yesterday's one was pretty whack upon reflection, but do you like that?

Josh: I wrote that down.

Tommy: Yeah, when you really nail it. Yeah, because you, I said you're reading it for the— it's almost the first time out aloud.

Josh: Yeah, and it's— well, no, I've been practising because we've, um, we're currently at McDonald's Melbourne Airport.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: You've just arrived in Melbourne and I've been practising with our guest today, Bree Phillips.

Breana: Sorry, I tuned out for a second.

Tommy: That's most of your relationship, guys.

Josh: You're just tuning out. Yeah, the kids these days, just so on their phone all the time.

Tommy: Yeah, thanks for coming to pick me up, guys.

Breana: You're welcome.

Tommy: I really appreciate it.

Josh: That's right. We did have another guest planned, but the announcement, apparently, I think he said to me that I said I said a special guest with a special announcement, which really played it up.

Tommy: So he's listening to the podcast.

Josh: Yeah, he's listening.

Breana: Oh, so you haven't said who it is coming in.

Tommy: How about you just go with I planted that to see if you were listening.

Josh: Potentially. But no, so we're going to have him on our special guest with a special announcement Monday. Who's funny is that?

Breana: That is you. You, did you hear him? He wanted to blame me straight away. He goes, Bree. He went to say Bree, didn't he?

Josh: Yeah, so this is Bree, everyone.

Tommy: Hey guys. Been on 2 flights. Yeah, actually 1, 2. Yeah, 2. I've been travelling for 5 hours today. The bloke next to me was fucking farting on a plane. You can't do that. Yeah, you cannot do that.

Josh: I mean, you're speaking to, um, Chief Farter right now.

Tommy: Chief Farter.

Breana: Are you looking at me?

Tommy: If you put that all together, Chief Farter, it actually sounds like a chief. Chief Farter.

Breana: Don't get me to come on your podcast and then heckle me the whole time.

Josh: That's a joke. It happened once though on a plane.

Breana: Okay.

Tommy: Mate, I mean, I've let a few—

Breana: The world knows I fart.

Tommy: I've had a few ones slip, but he did it twice.

Josh: Yeah, that's not okay.

Breana: Oh wait, like you heard him or you just smelt him?

Tommy: No, no, no. It's—

Josh: he— How do you know it was him then?

Tommy: Because it was, mate, it was on one of the planes with 4 seats across. So it's like 2 and 2. And I was sitting so close to a guy. Oh, so it was a tiny plane. So it's just 2 and 2. Usually the big ones are 3, 4, 3. And so it was just me next to this guy, a little aeroplane, and the smell just got me.

Josh: Just disgusting.

Tommy: I started wriggling a lot when he— and I was like, fuck, I wonder if he's noticed that I've noticed.

Josh: If you wiggle—

Breana: Oh, were you trying to make it obvious that you knew?

Tommy: No, I just started, and then I realised that I was moving a lot because of the smell.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then I was like, he's gonna be on to me that I know. And then I started feeling fucking embarrassed for him.

Breana: Well, the poor guy might have like irritable bowel or something.

Tommy: Yeah, true.

Breana: I always feel for those people.

Josh: Well, you have IBS.

Breana: Yeah, well, I've been known to. Yeah. Oh, I have a funny tummy.

Josh: Did you just say that I've been known to? That's the title of today's podcast.

Breana: I don't know, like I've tried the FODMAP diet and stuff like that because like, what's FODMAP? It's like, they're like the foods that you try to like, you know, onion, garlic, all that. I'm not gonna—

Josh: you can't eat that stuff.

Breana: You can't eat that stuff. So you try to avoid the foods that essentially make you Gassy.

Tommy: Mate, I just, I would have to stop eating if that was the case. I've been eating 3 meals a day for the last 3 or 4 days. And it sounds funny though, but I probably eat a lot more. I eat more meals when I'm in town, but I was living, I was out on the farm and we just had the staples. We all got together for breakfast at the table.

Josh: What would you have for breakfast?

Breana: Was it delicious?

Tommy: Oh, it was amazing. This morning we had, I guess, You go for it.

Josh: Jam? Yeah, jam.

Breana: Homemade granola.

Tommy: No butter. No, none of that. This is a cattle farm that I'm staying on. We had ground beef with like bacon sliced up and all put into a pan. And so it's like, was it squat, bubble and squeak? So it's like, you're kind of like bringing all these things together.

Josh: So it's like paleo. It would be so paleo.

Tommy: It was amazing. We ate bread though.

Breana: Did you feel bad eating the meat when you were there looking at the cows?

Tommy: No. I mean, these are people that respect the cows and love the cows and slaughter the cows because it's a part of their— Josh is informing you to talk into the microphone.

Josh: Well, it's just, you're just talking across it. If you just move it just a little bit like that, then that's good.

Breana: Sorry.

Josh: No, that's perfect right now.

Breana: Thanks.

Tommy: But no, so I was eating a great breakfast and then lunchtime we're having like salads, just like they'd pull out, you know, a meat from the freezer. They have like a walk-in freezer. A walk-in fridge with just so much meat, it's amazing. And then dinnertime was like a roast or something. So I was like, this is what they do consistently. And I feel really good from just eating 3 good meals across the day.

Josh: Non-processed, non-bullshit.

Tommy: Yeah, it was amazing, fuck.

Breana: And then we just fed you a McFlurry.

Tommy: I haven't been farting actually.

Josh: Oh. That's good. There you go. So that's the—

Tommy: But I just ate a McFlurry and Amy's gonna cop it when I get home with coffee.

Josh: With the, uh, A bit of chop chop.

Tommy: I'm gonna blame it on Chiefata.

Josh: Chiefata. Chiefata. When we were waiting for you to come in on the plane, you texted and you said, ah, I'll be landing in a second.

Tommy: Yeah. So here's the thing, I either will sound like a fucking privileged idiot or you'll take these things on. When I got— when I was going onto the plane in Brisbane, huge line. Of the economy class. I didn't fly business. I just walked straight into that business line. They never cheque your business status.

Josh: How have you— you— so is this the big deal?

Breana: Are you sure they don't check? Because sometimes when we go through things, because Josh is your— what are you, platinum or something?

Josh: Yeah.

Breana: And they always double check. Like, they let him go through like the speed line, but they always look at me and they go, you with him? And I'm like, yeah.

Tommy: But if you just walk up confidently, yeah, hey, how are you?

Breana: Yeah, maybe it's the confidence thing.

Josh: This was on the bigger plane, I'm guessing.

Tommy: Yeah, this was on the Brisbane-Melbourne. And so I didn't even—

Josh: Oh no, but you also— how did you get in the lounge? That was through Rupert?

Tommy: No, through someone else I was travelling with. She had access. But they didn't even cheque our things going to the lounge. It was amazing.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: And anyway, the other thing is—

Josh: So you say that because I have heard that a trick that some people use is if you have an Apple Watch and you use the QR code or use the code, like the barcode on the watch, it won't actually show status or anything. So you can go to get away with doing those lines, but I'm not sure.

Tommy: I've got my ticket in my pocket because I don't think it doesn't say anything on the ticket. Anyway, the other one is I don't turn off my— I don't put my phone into flight mode.

Josh: Yeah, that's outrageous.

Tommy: You don't have to, mate. I told you that I was speaking.

Breana: Ask why you have to. Like, why do you have to put it off?

Josh: Don't ask Tommy. Tommy knows nothing.

Tommy: So I asked, remember how I was telling you about our family friend that's a pilot?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And he's like, my phone fucking has gone off as I'm landing. I'm like, oh shit.

Josh: He said that?

Tommy: He said it doesn't matter at all.

Josh: He works for Tiger?

Tommy: I think so.

Josh: Yeah, there we go. Okay, it's all aligned.

Tommy: But there's not, he doesn't turn his phone off flight mode. And if there's a fucking pilot, if the pilots aren't doing it, I'm not fucking doing it.

Josh: Yeah.

Breana: But why do they say, why do you think they say that?

Josh: Well, it's all the interference and stuff, right?

Breana: Interference.

Tommy: If it does go off, if there was an emergency and people are calling— oh, you know what's the worst? September 11th. The people who were like, obviously turned their phones back on and were calling their loved ones.

Josh: Yeah, that's fucked.

Tommy: I can't help but think about that shit when I'm flying, like about plane crashes.

Josh: The, um, I was on a flight and had a guy speaking loudly on the phone while the plane was landing. He's like, yeah, mate. Yeah, nah, it's landing. Yeah, we're landing. We're a few minutes. And someone said, sir, get off the phone now.

Breana: Wait, like a person on the—

Josh: like a passenger? They were a passenger. He said, who are you? And she— and they said it was a dude actually. He said, I work for the airline. Get off the phone now. And it was like, it was real polite.

Tommy: You'd do it. You'd get off the phone. But I would never answer a call.

Josh: Could you believe that sort of tone though? That was intense.

Breana: What, the lady's tone?

Josh: No, the dude. Well, it was a dude. It was a dude flight attendant, like, who was seated who was in plain clothes.

Tommy: Sir. He led with sir. He definitely works the airline.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Anyone addresses you with sir, you know that you're in trouble.

Josh: Yeah. But the, um, no, so the, the, uh, what would you call it? It's a, um, it's an ethical conundrum, but it's also, you know, like social, like what's socially acceptable. And it was the, um, that also reminded me of I was watching, someone was doing a vlog and they were in a supermarket and they picked up some food that they were buying. And then as they were going to the register to pay, they started eating from the product that they were going to buy. And I remember as a kid, people doing that. Do you think that's okay to do?

Breana: Yeah, because you're going to pay for it.

Tommy: You know, the thing, the only thing that stops me. The only thing that stops me is for the things that are classed in weight. And so when you put it through the self-serve, you need to get the woman over because you've started eating and it's got the wrong weight. So it's registered.

Josh: Have you really gotten to that point where you've eaten something?

Tommy: I've just done it a couple of times. Water. I've drank half a bottle of water walking through and then put it on. And because it knows it's a kilo, one, one liter, it's gone. It's, you need to get the woman over because you can't actually.

Josh: So not even just produce and stuff like that.

Tommy: Not all that. Yeah, not even just produce, but I used to do it. I remember being a little shit of a kid and eating a packet of chips and putting the empty packet and walking out.

Josh: What a little rat. Fucking outrageous.

Breana: I think that's stealing.

Tommy: No, that is.

Josh: So Bree, you've— how much of the podcasts have you listened to of the Daily Talk Show so far? Bree's my girlfriend, if you haven't worked that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Breana: Maybe 70%, I'd say. Maybe 60%.

Tommy: That's not bad.

Breana: Yeah, I used to listen every day when you first started.

Tommy: Well, what happened?

Josh: Yeah.

Breana: Oh, I just found I just needed— no, oh yeah, busy with everything going on, but also I just needed a little break from listening to Josh.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, she was saying—

Breana: because I find I would like walk, like I would leave home, we'd get coffee together because we do that every morning, and then I would then listen to the podcast for half an hour on my way into work. I'd go to work, no doubt probably talk to Josh throughout the day, and then leave work and then listen to the podcast again. So it was just a lot of Josh.

Josh: Too much JJ.

Tommy: You get home, you entertain him on his ideas that he's had across the day.

Breana: Yeah. Oh, actually, no. And then we get home and then we would talk about the podcast.

Josh: I want any feedback.

Breana: Yeah. Yeah, you do.

Josh: One thing that I've noticed that we've been doing, this mate that's going to be on Monday, hopefully.

Tommy: God, this is—

Breana: so you're not going to reveal who he is?

Josh: Yeah, it's such a— it's probably— and he's the type of guy who hates any sort of build-up and any overplay, overstating things. So the fact that I've done 3 hooks to him coming on the show, I think it could be partly the reason why he's not here.

Tommy: You're new at this. You knew, you knew this whole thing where we're 80-something episodes.

Josh: 88. Yeah, 89.

Tommy: I think we said yesterday, I'm pretty sure we said 87, but no, we said 88. We're fucking— I can smell 100.

Josh: We're very, very close.

Breana: You should get your listeners to take a stab on who they think it is.

Tommy: Oh, they will never guess.

Josh: But what it was also getting me to think about is how many promises that we've made throughout the podcast.

Tommy: I think you're in the moment, you're energetic, you're feeling good about everything.

Josh: What are some of the promises that you remember? Do you remember any promises we've made?

Tommy: Oh, Bree even had one.

Breana: No, I do. I'm just trying to think. You have committed to certain things. I mean, you have. You— I'm pretty sure you said you were going to follow Tommy around, weren't you?

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: And stalk Tommy.

Tommy: Oh, thank you.

Breana: Like as a private investigator.

Josh: Yeah, that's still happening.

Tommy: I actually think you've committed to the promises because you remember you said that we'd email 3 people each across the week.

Breana: What about Seth Godin as well?

Josh: They're all yours, mate. I do. I do like promising Don't I? It's good.

Tommy: No, it's not good. No, but there's an energy in the moment. We promised that we were going to do an episode from Krispy Kreme. We did that.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Now I'm just trying to find the positives. Yeah.

Breana: I mean, you're doing a bloody good job. You do it every single day.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Thank you. That's a promise that we've kept.

Breana: You've kept.

Tommy: Do you feel like you know me?

Breana: Yeah.

Tommy: From listening?

Breana: Yeah. But I feel like I sort of knew you anyway.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: But Bree's been calling you family lately. She said, you know, Tommy and Amy and Bodie, they're the first friends that we, I think, are like family.

Tommy: Isn't that nice? Because we've got a kid and we hang out.

Breana: No, I don't know. I guess it's because you're over quite a bit and it's like—

Josh: You're the only people we hang out with.

Breana: Yeah. And it's just relaxed when we hang out. I mean, like, it's just like, whatever. We don't even have to, like, say much. I mean, I've got a glass for you that sits on the kitchen bench next to our two cups.

Tommy: Oh, that's nice.

Breana: I've got a cup for you.

Tommy: Thank you.

Josh: It's mainly because you keep using all the other fucking cups.

Breana: Yeah, I know.

Tommy: I'm a serial cup user.

Breana: Yeah, you are.

Tommy: Have you ever heard the term fast friend?

Josh: No.

Tommy: Oh, I got a— I've got a fast friend. All right. And so Amy said this before I was on the phone to her. She said, ah, she's my fast friend.

Josh: As you're landing, you're, yeah, babe, I'm gonna—

Tommy: She's the girl. She lives in our apartment block. It's a small apartment block, like 7 apartments, and she lives up the top and we're in the middle. And she's young, she's got a boyfriend, and, you know, it's— we get along really well. And Amy and her have become really good friends. Really fast. And so, but she's like, yeah, it's my fast friend.

Breana: Oh, good friend.

Josh: And is she, is like, have they been at each other's houses and stuff?

Tommy: Well, I was away and she's over having Tim Tams last night.

Breana: Oh, so they've been hanging out?

Tommy: Up until 11:30. I mean, it's ideal that you can do that with someone in your actual place.

Breana: Well, I actually messaged Amy like 2 days ago and she only wrote back to me yesterday.

Tommy: She was sick.

Josh: She's got a new friend.

Tommy: She wrote back. She's been sick.

Breana: She's, yeah, she did tell me that she's been unwell.

Josh: Yeah.

Breana: Yeah. She spent the day with Brodie boy.

Tommy: I think she said.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I mean, good time to be sort of sick in some regards.

Tommy: Why?

Josh: Well, just like you not being home so you can just sort of sleep. See, I don't have to sort of worry about the—

Breana: Kind of, but then she doesn't have anyone to look after Bodhi when she's sick.

Tommy: No, she sends Bodhi to daycare.

Breana: Oh, okay, great.

Tommy: You're paying either way.

Breana: Oh, right.

Tommy: You're paying $150.

Breana: Yeah.

Tommy: Whether he goes or not.

Josh: Well, the, the, um, I got some feedback. I throw that number around a lot, by the way. And I had a friend who said to me, who was it? I'm trying to remember. They said that was high. For some reason they had London connections and they're like, oh, I think that's what friends in London might pay, but that's like super, super primo.

Tommy: Well, we live urban.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: The further you go out, the cheaper it is. We don't live far out. And then there is ones around, like there's one in Richmond that's $120. I mean, it was convenience. We weighed it all up and it's 500 metres from Amy's work. I'd pay $30 for that, for the convenience.

Josh: Yeah, the, um, but the, the whole promising stuff on the podcast made me think that we should have some sort of mechanism to keep track of all the promises.

Breana: So why don't you start a Trello board or something?

Josh: Yeah, well, the risk in what I'm about to say is it's another promise.

Tommy: I know what you're about to say.

Josh: It's a— but Here's a promise to end all other promises.

Breana: Alright.

Josh: What I'm going to do is that June 1st, we're going to have a new website.

Tommy: Great.

Breana: June 1st?

Josh: Yeah.

Breana: Okay.

Josh: And on that website, there's going to be a section which is /promises.

Tommy: Good.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, you're digging the promise hole very deep.

Josh: TheDailyTalkShow.com/promises. If you're listening to this episode.

Breana: Yes.

Josh: And it's after June, please visit. And promises, what I've got to work out is I think that it will be a one-line form submission and people can type in a promise that they heard on the podcast that they want us to keep in mind and keep committed to. So that's something. And then every—

Breana: There's one promise I want you to keep too.

Tommy: What is that?

Breana: And that's getting Seth Godin on the show.

Josh: Oh yeah, that would be— Yeah. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, I feel excited with me. And that, yeah, just can we not go on about that?

Tommy: Yeah, that's, that's big. We've got other promises. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: But the, um, so that's something exciting. And so what I'm thinking is we could do a bit of a promise audit every couple of weeks where we say, okay, what promises do we— Josh, have you, uh, privately stalked Tommy yet? Yay or nay? All of that sort of thing.

Tommy: I mean, I almost just feel like I can't be bothered doing that, so I feel like it's okay for Josh not to do that from us.

Josh: I'm happy to take the lead. I've— I think maybe we spoke about— have I spoken about how badly I'm procrastinating at the moment?

Tommy: No, but I can definitely tell with all of these.

Josh: Mate, I am doubling down. What are you doing that face for, Brizzy? Were you on Instagram?

Tommy: Are you? You're our guest.

Breana: No, I was responding. Someone asked me a question on my Instagram for work. It's not me on my personal Instagram.

Tommy: What'd they fucking ask?

Breana: They were just asking where a pair of earrings was like, boring, where from. You guys don't care.

Josh: No, given that Bree is a guest, we should try and bring you in on the conversation more.

Breana: No, no, you're fine. I'm just happy listening.

Tommy: She said earlier before we started rolling, I've got nothing to say.

Josh: Join the club.

Tommy: We didn't build a podcast around having nothing to say but still doing 5 episodes a week.

Josh: The only thing that I have to say is around the pod— like, all I've been thinking about is podcasts.

Tommy: You can tell. You need to get out of there.

Breana: He thinks about it and talks about it all the time.

Tommy: It's just exciting. I'm talking about on the podcast.

Josh: Well, the content directors, content directors on radio, they say it is the radio personality's jobs to live a life so they have something to talk about. And so when we're on the trip, we'll definitely have that. We're going to have so many awkward moments.

Breana: The only thing I hope on the trip is that you can also relax a little bit. True. Let them enjoy the sights and all that sort of stuff.

Tommy: Hey, one last thing about where I was.

Breana: Yeah.

Tommy: Do you know the Batuta Advocate?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: You know that fucking hilarious Instagram account?

Breana: Oh, I don't.

Tommy: Batuta Advocate.

Josh: Batuta, the big, the big like satirical news thing.

Breana: Oh, I'll have a look.

Tommy: Hilarious headlines. Anyway, one of the dudes is from out there.

Breana: Oh, there you go.

Josh: I saw on Instagram today, Osher Ginsberg of The Osher Ginsberg Show interviewed them and was there today.

Tommy: Where?

Breana: Oh, that's crazy.

Josh: He had a fucking Qantas hat on, the dude.

Tommy: Maybe he was out that way. Well, Rupert, who I was staying with, in one of their latest episodes of their podcast—

Josh: What, Rupert's got a fucking podcast?

Tommy: No, Batuta Advocate have a podcast.

Josh: He's in Hawaii and Rupert listens.

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: I'm excited to listen because Rupert was on yesterday's show.

Tommy: Oh yeah, he dropped that, uh, he dropped the C-bomb.

Josh: He loved it. What did he say after he got off?

Tommy: He said, don't put that on.

Josh: Sorry, mate. Like, Speedy Gonzalez got it up 10 minutes ago.

Tommy: It was great. Anyway, the Batuta Advocate dude, I heard one of their episodes, he was mentioning Rupert's sister. They all went to primary school together.

Josh: What were they saying? But what's the deal with Rupert's sister?

Tommy: All right, so what they do is the They drop all their mates' names into the satirical posts.

Josh: Yes, yes, yes.

Tommy: So it's just a way to include their friends' names.

Josh: But did you know Batuta is a town?

Tommy: I forgot to ask him about this.

Josh: Batuta, Queensland. This is where Osher was. Yeah. I want to get— I did see that.

Tommy: Oh no, I saw a different one.

Josh: But no, see, I've gotten back onto Osher's— Osher's done like over 200 episodes of his podcast. And now that I'm like—

Tommy: We're closing in on it.

Josh: Spending all of my time thinking and listening, like I'm trying to listen to as many as possible, because if we're going to do something that's good, if we're going to do something that's good or like, and if we want to be taken seriously, I feel like we need to respect what everyone else is doing, listen to other people, learn from them, give feedback, just be part of that sort of community. So, I've been listening. There was a really good, if you're in Australia, even if you're not, but there's a lot of Australian references. Bri, we listened to the Sandra Sully.

Breana: Oh, that was so good.

Josh: Episode with Osher Ginsberg.

Tommy: What was good about that?

Breana: She's just a really interesting—

Tommy: Sandra Sully on—

Breana: She's an interesting person, really strong, powerful woman.

Tommy: I remember her. I grew up with her watching Sandra Sully at the news time, 6 PM.

Josh: I feel like you had a thing for Sandra Sully.

Breana: No, you had a thing for Sandra Sultry.

Tommy: I know I did, but I preferred Tommy to say it.

Josh: But she was sort of— I liked her a lot.

Breana: Wasn't she Sandra Sultry on something? Oh, maybe it was like Rove or something. I can't remember.

Josh: Yeah, but she's also—

Tommy: I could imagine she punches 20 darts a day.

Josh: No, no, no, she doesn't.

Breana: She's like, no, super healthy, like into aerobics, loves Pilates, all that stuff.

Tommy: Nah, the problem is, I'm thinking of a woman who's currently still on that Sounds— her voice is so deep, she would smoke packets.

Josh: The risk with doing the show with Tommy is he's slowly reducing who we can have on the podcast.

Tommy: Oh, have Sandra Sully?

Josh: I don't know if it's a choice now because Sandra's probably listening going, fuck this guy.

Tommy: Sandra's listening.

Breana: Hello, Sandra.

Tommy: That's good. Yeah, I'll be happy with that.

Josh: That's really good.

Tommy: Sup, Sandra?

Josh: Salzburg! What up? I remember you on the telly. No, so it's, to give you an idea, we're 22 minutes in. So we'll—

Breana: I was going to ask if you had a timer.

Josh: Yeah, I look normally every 20 minutes.

Breana: We've only got 30 minutes on this park.

Josh: Yeah, we're parked at McDonald's. We have 30 minutes. Talking about having limits, we were at the fucking airport here in Melbourne. You have 1 minute.

Tommy: It's fucked. It's even worse in Sydney now. Really? Actually, they've got the underground car park. Used to be free. They turned a section that you used to get for free for 10 minutes into a paid one. And so everyone at the start would just rock in. You had no option but to pay. And people who don't think that they're paying, it goes through your eTag. And so you go out and you're like, shit, charged you $4.

Josh: Dodgy bastards. Because I think, I think I was hearing something about the Melbourne Airport that's already like made $150 million or some outrageous amount. What's the car parks? Yeah.

Tommy: Jeez, they don't even drop that cash into fucking— yeah, putting a train.

Josh: Well, that's it. Why would they want to do a train if they're making so much money through that? Yeah, but Bree was having a go at me.

Breana: I wasn't having a go.

Tommy: All right guys, welcome to the first on-air fight between Bree and Josh.

Josh: Describe what happened. No, I'm, I'm giving you the lead to then talk about what happened.

Breana: No, there's a guy whose job it is basically to move people on when they've overstayed their welcome at the airport.

Josh: And what happened?

Breana: And he's just in his high-vis, he's walking, and he was just waving his hands like he was looking at Josh and he was sort of waving on. And Josh wasn't looking at him. Josh all of a sudden looks up like with this, like sort of gives him a dirty look and is ready. It looks like he's ready to go, the guy. And then I was like, everyone's got confidence in the car. He's just doing his job. And then I just, all I did was put the window and I guess, I'm sorry, man, I can't hear you through, you know, the window or whatever. Anyway, you said that the nice guy outside the car Anyway, basically all I'm trying to say is he's just a guy doing his job, and I feel like you should have been nicer to him.

Josh: It is one of those areas where I think when I was younger—

Breana: And straight away, I don't understand why you all of a sudden got like— 'Cause he wasn't being mean to you.

Tommy: He's on steroids.

Josh: But maybe I'm spending time with Tommy.

Tommy: Yeah, maybe.

Josh: Because Tommy's a bit like that, a bit hot-headed.

Tommy: Blown up a few times.

Josh: What's it called? Hot-headed?

Breana: Hot-headed.

Josh: Bit of a temper. No, but I feel like I've gotten— I went from when I was younger just getting angry at people really easily to building up empathy to now I'm coming back around to— No, the idea that like my thoughts around stuff like, say, people who are just trying to make a buck, right? Where I'm like, you know what, this taxi driver or this Uber driver or this waiter, like They're just like, they're not getting paid huge amounts of money. They're just trying to do all that sort of thing. That's how I've been living my life, except I did lecture an Uber driver on earlier in the week.

Breana: Why?

Josh: Why?

Breana: Do I know this story?

Josh: I don't know.

Tommy: Maybe I'm thinking I know.

Josh: I think, Bri, you do know it because you were, you saw me being frantic as I was leaving the house. Oh, I got a call from him. Got a call from a guy. He said, he said, oh, hey, where are you going? I'm like, excuse me? He's like, oh yeah, where are you going? I'm like, we're using Uber, like the app. It's all there. You don't need to call me. And so like, I know I probably shouldn't have been.

Breana: No, but he was trying to dismiss the job, wasn't he? Or something like that. He didn't want to do it.

Josh: He said, how many people? How many people? I said, one. But again, this is Uber. Like, you don't need to call me. And so I was already pissed off and I said—

Breana: He was actually really pissed off.

Josh: Because I was just, I had camera gear, I was carrying all my stuff. And so I just felt like it was a really unnecessary call. Like I would understand if he's like, hey mate, I'm out the front. But he was like a kilometre away and he was trying to find out, you know, all the details.

Tommy: Well, it doesn't say the details until the job turns on when you get in the car.

Breana: Yeah, it doesn't actually tell you where you're going.

Tommy: The racket at the moment, if you get an Uber from the airport, they do the exact same thing. You and I, and I didn't cotton on to it because it all went through. But as soon as I ordered it, I got a phone call.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: He's like, hey mate, I'm just coming in. But he didn't ask me where I was. He just called me though. It's like, you want to chat or something? Anyway, Jules was, Jules Lunn was telling me that because he's flying so much at the moment, he's, they call to see where you're going because then they cancel the job. It's exactly what's happening.

Josh: So I said to him, I'm like, look, by the sounds of it, you don't want the job, so I'm going to cancel it for you and I'll just let my mates who work at Uber know that we had this conversation. So that's what I said to him, which seemed like a little— I felt a bit bad after it because it felt like a bit of a power play.

Tommy: You didn't wait for him to respond, did you?

Josh: No. I want to know what happened when you got in the car. So he's like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine. It's all good. He's like, yeah, I'm still there. I just wanted to make sure that you didn't need an Uber XL and all that sort of thing. Right. So I was like, yeah, bullshit. So I got into the car and we just had this conversation where I don't look down on people. I could do— I feel comfortable about doing any fucking job, having other people do any job. These— all these things that we do need to be done in the world. And I feel like our jobs are a bit of a fucking joke in what we do anyway. So the conversation though that I had with him was He was sort of complaining.

Breana: How did it start? Like you got in the car, you say, hey.

Josh: So he obviously felt like he needed to break the ice because he was like, oh, sorry. Sorry about that.

Tommy: How about the weather?

Josh: Yeah. So he said, he said, like, what happens is he says he's got people being— what did he say? Not the word dodgy. Shifty. So there's a lot of shifty people. And what they do is they're rocking up with 4 people and all with luggage trying to get into an UberX when they need an UberXL. And he is a bigger car. So what he's saying that people do is they book it under UberX, see what car it is. If it's a big car, they'll keep it. If it's a small car, they'll cancel it and order another car.

Tommy: I think it's shot. How many people are doing that?

Josh: Well, that's what I said to him. I'm like, look, I said, this is the thing, by the end of the— so the whole drive was a 30-minute drive or whatever.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I just said to him, I said, this is the thing, like—

Breana: Was there surcharge?

Josh: No, no surcharge.

Tommy: He picked up 3 other people's bags along the way.

Josh: There was the— no, he was saying, you know, like, the last month I've had to deal with, um, I've got all these shifty people and the, the aux cord got broken because someone was pulling it to plug in their phone. I said, look, I said, oh, his issues are probably bigger than Uber. Yeah. So what I said, Uber's big. I said to him, I was like, look, the, I think that it's, I felt like a bit of an asshole playing this thing, but I'm like, look, it's a mindset thing, mate. I said, I said, the thing is, Uber, and Bree's heard me do this spiel before with a lady in LA who wasn't happy because we booked a trip to LA Airlines.

Breana: She really didn't like us much at first. Anyway, do you want to finish your storey about the taxi driver?

Josh: Yeah, the Uber driver.

Breana: Sorry.

Josh: Yeah, no, so I said to him, I'm like, this is a choice, right? The thing is that there's, I understand that it can be hard to find work. But there are— you can be stacking things at Coles and Woolworths. You need to just do that. Like, if you work it out and say that the petrol is too expensive and all of these things, like, you just need to decide not to use Uber. Because the thing is that what Uber does give you is that, yes, you've got your family and you can turn on the app at any time.

Breana: You can work.

Josh: And you can be flexible.

Breana: And what did he say?

Josh: And I just said to him, I'm like, you know what? And like, My bet is that the people who are booking UberX with all the luggage and all that sort of thing, I don't think they're being shifty. They just don't know what they're doing. They don't know the app. Like, even I wouldn't even necessarily think about that. So I'm like, if you think that every single person you have in the car is shifty, you're going to have a bad experience.

Breana: You're having bad expectations of people.

Tommy: What was his words back to you then?

Josh: So his mindset was obviously wrong, so it's never going to be good.

Tommy: But did he even respond? Yeah. Because that's giving someone advice that's not asking for.

Breana: Yeah, exactly. Which is always really tough to do.

Tommy: But what I am always curious to know the response to that.

Josh: Yeah, it was, um, I felt like I was making one star. Yeah, exactly.

Breana: That's what I was gonna say, he didn't even give him a star.

Josh: But this even felt like it, even me being nice felt like a power play because I'm like, look, I'm not going to be telling Uber about this.

Breana: Wait, you said that?

Josh: I said I'm not going to.

Breana: Wait, you said that in the car after this long conversation? So it was actually like a conversation where you felt like it was a bit tense.

Josh: No, no, no.

Breana: So it wasn't like a general conversation. Oh, you're not going to be telling Uber about it?

Josh: I wasn't going to tell Uber about the fact that he called me and all this sort of thing.

Breana: Right.

Josh: But I was just like, look, just remember that this is a choice. And so that, and yeah, so his reaction.

Tommy: Yeah, what did he say?

Josh: His reaction was, um, yeah, he was sucking up my ass a bit because I think he was worried that I was going to call Uber. So I've got to consider all of that. But he was just saying, yeah, like, um, You know, there are like, yeah, there are like a lot of nice people. He said something along those lines and sort of implied that I was one of those nice people.

Breana: Oh, that's nice. I don't know. And for some people it is like you can say it's a choice for things and whatever and the jobs that they're in. But some people just don't know what they're doing. Some people need work to do and it's hard. You know what I mean? Like it's hard for him to make a choice about what he wants to do. So he's like, Uber, it's accessible. I've got it all set up. I've got it. I'm making an income. And if he's unhappy, he might not know where to go next. So I get what you mean by choice, but it's not a simple thing sometimes for people to just make a choice.

Josh: Yeah, no, I get that.

Tommy: You had no cut-through, no connection with the information you were dishing out.

Breana: Yeah.

Tommy: But it's fine. I get it.

Josh: Well, that's the thing. And it actually—

Breana: Not to say you were wrong.

Josh: No, but the thing is, I think it actually was more for me than for him because it was either that or I called Uber. So I feel like he—

Tommy: And that would have taken a week and the procrastination would have continued.

Josh: He was sort of, he was talking about the fact that the, um, Uber was just a bit useless. Like, he's like, oh, my AUX internal thing in the car's broken and they're not doing anything. They said it's got to be, you know, covered in by insurance. And so, like, it's that conversation. Actually, that's why I said to him, what I said, I was like, you know, like, he's like, he said, you know, everyone expects mints, water, they expect all of that.

Tommy: Yeah, I did.

Breana: Yeah. So he had the bad mindset.

Josh: And so this is what I said. I said, I don't expect mints, I don't expect water, but I just expect that when I get in the car that the person that's behind the wheel isn't going to be spending all the time complaining about being on Uber. Because I'm like, the thing is that the reason that I want to use this service is I want to support people and, and I want to be— and like, so if I feel like Uber is not benefiting you, then if you don't want to make the choice, then other— the passengers are going to make the choice. No one's going to want to be doing this.

Tommy: This is what happens when a business scales as quick as Uber does, and for both the passengers and also the people working for it. Yeah, this is going to happen. I got an Uber to the airport on Monday.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And the dude said to me, oh, um, do you mind if I don't take tolls? I said, yes, I fucking— I didn't say fucking. I said, yes, I mind. Take the tolls. Yeah. And then I looked up—

Breana: Don't you pay for the tolls?

Tommy: Of course. And it's, and it's an extra 15 minutes not taking the tolls to the airport.

Breana: So why would he not want to take them when you cover the cost?

Tommy: I looked up and he didn't have an eTag. But I was like, dude, your fucking job's driving. There's a high chance that you're gonna go on a toll road in Melbourne if you're driving.

Josh: So you tell me he's as bad as I am.

Tommy: No, but that's all I said. And then I thought about, do I give him 1 star?

Josh: Yeah. I don't actually give stars anymore. The way Uber is done.

Breana: Do you know what your rating is? Is yours good?

Josh: It was pretty good. It has been good. Like I remember I checked, it was like 4.9, which is very high.

Breana: That is high.

Tommy: It's because you use it a lot.

Breana: Giving you dishonourable.

Tommy: But yeah, so I was going to give him, I was going to give him one star and I was like, oh, this poor guy.

Breana: You didn't.

Tommy: And I gave him 5.

Breana: Oh yeah, that's right.

Josh: I just don't care.

Breana: You really went the other way.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: I was like, it's, what's it? It doesn't really matter for me.

Josh: Yeah.

Breana: Good for you.

Tommy: Yeah. I wasn't the guy giving him a lesser star.

Josh: Annoyingly.

Tommy: Josh will get into his Uber and fucking school him.

Josh: No, but the annoying thing about the Uber driver is as we're having this conversation, he went like the worst way. And so I'm like, all right, do I pick him up on this either?

Breana: Nah, he was obviously just sidetracked.

Josh: I was like, oh, why did you, why'd you turn? Oh no. Why'd you skip? Like, so we're nearly there. I was like, oh, so why did you miss it? Like, because it said to turn left at William Street.

Breana: And I mean, you do that to me too.

Josh: And he ended up going past and going to Kingston. I'm like, well, why'd you do that? I'm like, no biggie, just wondering. And he's like, oh, the, um, so it looked like there was a bit of traffic on William Street.

Breana: If I was him, I would just get out and be like, you drive.

Tommy: He turned off his fucking apps and went home.

Breana: Yeah, he was just like, I'm going to sleep.

Josh: Yeah, this is it.

Breana: Today's enough.

Josh: Probably see him at Woolies or something being like, man, took your advice. I'm now store manager. Things are going really well. Anyway, it's The Daily Talk Show, everyone. Feel free to send your emails, hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

Tommy: Episode 89, we're doing 90.

Josh: 90 on Monday with a special guest, with a special announcement.

Breana: Should we say what he starts with letter-wise or no?

Josh: Uh, yeah, his, uh, his first name is Jack.

Breana: Oh, oh, he went full first name.

Josh: Yeah. It's Jack Post. Yeah, but we haven't said what it is. So Jack, if you're listening, mate, get ready for it. Yeah.

Tommy: And now you actually have to just be on the show because we've said you are.

Breana: And exactly.

Josh: It's exciting. Anyway, have a good one, everyone. We'll, we'll see you Monday. Bye.