16 years old with 16k instagram followers

Josh: It's the Daily Talk Show, everyone, and it's Monday, episode 35. Yeah, lucky 35.

Tommy: This is good. This is our— this is our first guest, official guest on the podcast today. Yeah, which we'll get to very soon, but I just want to quickly read you a text exchange that Amy and I had today. Um, how are you, by the way? I haven't seen you.

Josh: Oh, really good, thank you. I'm very warm. It always happens. 21 degrees, you think is fairly cool.

Tommy: You're running hot. You're a running hot kind of guy.

Josh: I always run hot. I've been having a lot of cold showers lately. That's— as a way of trying— well, it's meant to like regulate your temperature a bit more.

Tommy: Bring your core temperature down.

Josh: Yeah, because do you know, like, you're the coldest, I think, like your body temperature is the coldest about like 4 AM.

Tommy: Yeah, well, you've been asleep for— you should be in a deep sleep then.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So your heart rate would be right down, so your body temperature's dropped a bit.

Josh: Anyway, we don't have to talk about that.

Tommy: Women run at a hotter temperature, body temperature, than men.

Josh: Which is sort of weird because they—

Tommy: Oh no, sorry, sorry, sorry. That almost was a fuck up. The other way around. So you, when you're in bed, are always trying to get the blankets off. Is that right?

Josh: Yeah, exactly.

Tommy: And your missus is like, "No, it's cold!" Exactly. Bree, you don't sound like that.

Josh: Well, we were at a restaurant on Saturday night and Bree, we were right underneath an aircon. And Bree was like, can I tell them to turn it off? I'm like, nah, it's powering the whole restaurant.

Tommy: It is the fight between Amy and I.

Josh: Yeah, put a jumper on, bring a jumper. Like if you're gonna, if you know that you run cold, always have a jumper. If I could take my t-shirt off, I would. But if I did that at the restaurant, I'd be kicked out. So go on, you've had some text exchange.

Tommy: So I get a message from Amy ding ding. It says Bodie's just been in an altercation.

Josh: Great.

Tommy: I got a bit worried, and then she wrote, a kid bit him. Oh, I said, what? She said, bit. And I said, I'll smash him.

Josh: You do get it, like you just hope that Bodie would just grab the little kid by the neck and say, you fucking do it again. I said, Bodie probably doesn't have that in him yet.

Tommy: So who was it? Was it Enzo? I bet that hungry little prick. Yeah, this other kid Just eats everything. And then she says, "Haha, I don't know. We have to sign a form." Really?

Josh: To put the kid down, obviously.

Tommy: No, I said I need to sign a form so that I won't bash the kid's dad.

Josh: You know, actually I've got a friend who—

Tommy: I'm not finished.

Josh: Okay, sorry.

Tommy: Is he going away from that story? Yeah, go on.

Josh: I was literally going away from that story. But it was a really— So what happens to the kid?

Tommy: She said something like that.

Josh: It couldn't be a little girl.

Tommy: It was over a toy. Okay, and I said he would have put up a good fight. Yeah, you so could imagine. So the reason I bring it up, funny story, but also when I was— I like— it scarred me for life. Not scared.

Josh: This one or something else?

Tommy: No, another storey from when I was in grade 3. Nostalgia alert. Okay, it's burnt into my brain. I'm sitting in the classroom, grade 3, and this Russian father of a kid, his son was called Murat.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Murat, Murat. And his dad comes in yelling and swearing, totally inappropriate. Like I might joke about, you know, beating down on this kid's dad.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Never, I'm just fucking around. But he legit was off his rocker. This other kid, Stuart, Stuart G, put a pencil on Murat's seat and Murat sat down and it stabbed him in the bum.

Josh: Oh yeah.

Tommy: And his dad came in, just lost it and was like looking for this kid. You don't do that, right?

Josh: Yeah, no, I remember, I don't know if it, not to make it a Russian theme or something like that, but there was—

Tommy: Go on, very good.

Josh: No, but there was, I think that they may be just very protective of their kids or something, 'cause I remember there was—

Tommy: Or it's very different in Russia.

Josh: Exactly, 'cause I remember, I remember, and I might be mistaking Russian for Croatian, but there was— Yeah, big mistake. No, I had some, Eastern European girls who were twins at my school and they, I would always borrow their pencils and they were like fine with it. They were like, "Oh yeah, sure." And like, we got along really well. And then one day, like I got sat down, I'd seen their like mum in the school and apparently it wasn't okay for me to borrow their pencils. And I was just like, "Come on, Katie and Catherine, like, just like, you can just tell me." Like, I was like really sad. I'm like, I thought that we had this really like connection.

Tommy: Is this the girls that came up and said, 'If you show us your penis, we'll show you theirs.' And then Josh showed him their penis and then they ran off and reported him.

Josh: I was just— How old were you? I was like 7. Uh, but to be clear, now we need to tone it down because we've got our very first guest who happens to be a 16-year-old work experience kid. Yes, Lucy. Well, perfect timing to bring you in.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: How are you?

Lucy: I'm good, how are you?

Josh: Yeah, very good. You're in your— I know you as the the famous Instagram work experience.

Lucy: I wouldn't say famous, but—

Tommy: Oh, okay, let's preface. She has 16,000 followers on Instagram. What's your Instagram?

Lucy: Scorpius, but the dot before the last S. Okay. I want to point that out this time, 'cause last time we had a big debate.

Josh: Yeah, 'cause I thought it was, she just said it wrong.

Tommy: Let's put it in the show notes. The link is in the show notes on the website.

Josh: Lucy doesn't need any help from us anyway.

Tommy: No, no. If anything, we need help from you, Lucy.

Josh: Yeah.

Lucy: The whole reason I'm here.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So we've been hanging out. I just wanted you to get, come on the podcast. It's our first guest too.

Josh: Yeah.

Lucy: I feel honored.

Josh: And we're really just trying to leverage your audience and I hope you're okay with that.

Lucy: I'm 100% fine with that.

Josh: Okay, perfect. Great. Well, thanks for being on. Links are in the description. No.

Tommy: Josh and I talked about what we wanted to discuss with you.

Lucy: Oh, okay.

Tommy: 'Cause it really, I mean, you, You're more professional in some senses than us. I mean, you've achieved more from a social media realm than us and you're only 16.

Josh: Yeah, it's very true. So tell us about, I wanna bring it way back and I want you to describe to us—

Tommy: Childbirth.

Josh: Exactly, exactly. What do you remember?

Tommy: It was only 16 years ago, so yeah.

Josh: No, what I wanna know is what was your first memory of being on the internet?

Lucy: Oh, being on the internet. Oh no, okay.

Josh: It was the NBN, wasn't it?

Lucy: It was— okay, I used to collect Littlest Pet Shops and they were— I said that so good, usually I'm like, "Lil-est." Sorry, I felt it coming out.

Tommy: Nah, you're killing it.

Josh: This is perfect.

Lucy: But they were like little toy things. You can still get them, but they're kind of dodgy now. They don't look anything like it and they're not worth it.

Tommy: But this would be like Tamagotchis, or is this internet?

Josh: It's like little toys, toys, like actual legit toys.

Lucy: Yeah, so I used to play with them and I used to watch people making YouTube videos where they'd make storeys with these, and that's sort of the first thing I remember. I used to— they also used to make music videos with these, which I made, except you can see me moving all of them.

Tommy: So how old do you reckon you were?

Lucy: Probably about 9, maybe younger.

Josh: So 2000, so what year were you born?

Lucy: 2009 or 2010.

Josh: What year were you born? 2001. I should have been able to do that math.

Tommy: I wouldn't have been able to do that.

Josh: So you would have been 7 years old when the iPhone came out.

Lucy: Yeah.

Josh: In Australia.

Lucy: I got an iPod Touch at 6 and I thought it was the coolest thing ever except it didn't have a camera, but at the time I didn't know that that was a bad thing.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't at the time, probably.

Tommy: Yeah. Did it have access to the internet?

Lucy: The, uh, you had to connect to Wi-Fi.

Tommy: Okay.

Lucy: To use it.

Tommy: And then what was your first phone?

Lucy: Um, like a Nokia.

Tommy: Are you—

Josh: oh, that's good.

Tommy: What kind?

Lucy: Like, it was like a Nokia touchscreen? No, it was one of the, the ones that had a keyboard on it.

Josh: Oh yeah, but that's like retro cool. That's why she—

Lucy: oh no, it wasn't cool. Although there was this photo filter thing where you could add stickers to them and like little, you know, things to it to make it look cool.

Josh: I do remember texting, like, services where you'd be able to get sent, like, artwork. And actually, one of my clients created, or was one of the co-founders of— what was that? Bimbo?

Tommy: Bing Bongo.

Josh: Bongo.

Tommy: I know that guy.

Josh: Yeah, no, so I know the other guy.

Tommy: Is that the guy with the Ferrari?

Josh: So I know the non-Ferrari one.

Lucy: Is Wanda that thing where you can like search people up and it tells you?

Josh: Exactly.

Lucy: That always terrified me.

Tommy: So you text Lucy—

Lucy: Oh no, please don't.

Tommy: So you text Lucy and a surname and then it would come up with Lucy lives in blah blah blah.

Lucy: Oh no, that's terrifying.

Tommy: It's weird. Here's the thing, I knew a girl, her name is Claire, she was one of the people who would be on the other end who'd be like searching stuff.

Lucy: Now that you've exposed this, now people are going to go and try and find my address.

Tommy: No, I never said any of the details, so I kept it very sharp. I would never mention anything. I didn't even mention your surname. But then again, you've got to—

Lucy: no, but people know my surname.

Tommy: Well, I mean, it's not hard to—

Josh: like, Josh could find out where you live, and mainly just by following you home. That's probably the easiest way.

Tommy: Yeah, I guess let's talk about that, because it's, it's having 16,000 people following you on your Instagram is like, they're following you because they know you or they like what you do.

Lucy: Well, it's mostly for the stuff that I make. There are definitely people that are there and they just like, no, I like you as a person as well, which are the people that I respect the most out of all of them. I love everyone that's on there. Oh my God, I sound like I'm famous.

Josh: It's like the Oscars. This is the closest thing we're getting to an Oscars. It's like today's Oscars.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: So I brought it up.

Lucy: The people that are there that are also just just like, yeah, no, I like Lucy as well. I'm like, thank you, like that means a lot to me.

Josh: So— Describe the channel.

Lucy: Channel?

Josh: Oh, sorry, not the channel. Oh, see, I used the wrong terminology. You old idiot. A channel? What do you mean, a TV channel, you moron?

Tommy: Describe your Instagram feed.

Josh: Is that what you call it?

Lucy: Have I got it right? Well, I just edit whatever I like. Like new TV shows come out, if I watch it and I like it, I'll edit that.

Josh: So it's a video, so video only? Yeah, yeah. And so what you do is you basically get video clips from your favourite shows, movies.

Lucy: And then put music with it and add cool transitions and stuff.

Josh: Great, so it's like this sort of like arty.

Lucy: Yeah.

Josh: I just panicked that I was like touching the bottom of the mic. I thought, hang on, the cable's not plugged in. To be clear, it is. We're all good. So how did you find this niche? Did your Instagram profile always start that way?

Lucy: Well, it started on Vine. So when Vine was a thing I had an account on Vine.

Josh: What's Vine? Do you know what Vine is? Yeah, I do!

Lucy: RIP Vine.

Josh: RIP Vine.

Lucy: RIP Vine. RIP Vine.

Tommy: R.I.P.

Lucy: Forever in our hearts. Yeah, I used to say "R.I.P." and then everyone started saying "rip" and I thought it was much cooler to say rip than it was R.I.P. Rip is cooler. Um... yeah so it started on Vine. My edits were appalling on Vine so we're not gonna go too deep into that—

Josh: You only have 6 seconds how much can you screw up in 6 seconds?

Lucy: A lot of people got really creative with it. But mine were always terrible and a lot of things I edited then, I don't like at all now.

Tommy: Was it at that point where you were editing them on your phone or on your computer?

Lucy: Yeah, it was on my phone. So I used VideoStar and like, there are people that use VideoStar now and I'm like, how do you do that? VideoStar is so hard to use.

Tommy: So just to clarify, Lucy uses a programme that both Josh and I don't really know. It's a super complex program.

Josh: It's After Effects. Adobe After Effects, motion graphics, all that sort of thing. Compositing.

Tommy: It's really in depth.

Lucy: It's not that hard after a while. Like I've been using it since April of last year and I understand it fully now.

Josh: Half of your life?

Lucy: Yeah, pretty much.

Josh: That's my last age joke for the day. It's just nice, I remember being the young one. It's not like this is a novelty. Yeah, true. So going back to having these followers and all that sort of thing, what were some of the security measures upfront? What has your mum put in place and said, okay Lucy, you can be on the internet, but list the things.

Lucy: Okay, so do you mean like what I'm not allowed to share?

Josh: Yeah, exactly.

Lucy: So I'm not, she's happy for me, well I think, and I've said this to her before and she seems okay with it. Mum's gonna be watching this, so I hope she doesn't attack me after. I'm not seeing her for the next 2 days.

Tommy: She's actually in the corner of the room listening. So yeah, yeah. Come out now, yeah, yeah.

Josh: She has a live feed.

Lucy: But she obviously doesn't let me say exactly where I'm from. She's like, you can say that you're from Melbourne, that's fine. Because Melbourne's a pretty big area. So she doesn't let me say.

Tommy: Let's throw them off, you're actually from Sydney and we're in Sydney right now. Exactly.

Josh: I mean, Melbourne, people who live in Officor say they're from Melbourne. So I think Lucy's very safe.

Lucy: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and no, we're actually all American, but we're just really good at Australian accents.

Tommy: Great accent, very true. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Melbourne, Florida.

Tommy: So location.

Lucy: Location, that's sort of the main thing. She never obviously let me say where I went to school, but that's obviously not an issue anymore.

Tommy: 'Cause Lucy doesn't go to school.

Josh: No.

Tommy: Now?

Lucy: I've been given permission to talk about that. I am allowed to talk about that.

Josh: Oh, great.

Lucy: You can make high school dropout jokes now.

Josh: This feels like some sort of 60 Minutes exclusive.

Lucy: Yeah.

Tommy: But if Josh makes high school dropout jokes, We'll get it.

Josh: It'll be offensive.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two on one here.

Josh: And I know that you're all both packing heat because you don't—

Lucy: We're just waiting for you to say a really offensive, you know, high school dropout joke.

Tommy: So, um, location. What about like people contacting you directly? Have you turned off notifications for anything or—

Lucy: Well, then unless, uh, my mum's still a bit iffy about people having my phone number, so unless I know them quite well, I don't give out my number. That's just It's not something I do. But yeah, that's kind of the main two things. Last name, it's, nah.

Tommy: Well, I think we asked this, right? Because we think that with 6,000 followers comes this other side to it.

Josh: 16.

Lucy: You need to add another digit.

Josh: What did I say? 6. Oh, shit. Lucy just nearly is like, "How did you miss that?" Just trying to bring it down a level, mate.

Tommy: Knock her off a peg. 16,000 comes like people throwing, talking to them, talking to you as—

Josh: I've only got 1,600 and I've got about 3/4 of my follower base are hate follows.

Lucy: I actually don't have a lot of people who are particularly nasty to me. I have the occasional ones, particularly when I voice opinions that not everyone agrees with. So I tend to not say that. Or like if I do, I tend to keep it at a very, like I don't express how much I dislike a certain thing or a certain person or whatever. Just because I don't want people to attack me because I know what people are like. So, I'm just like, eh, it's an opinion, you know, it's not a fact, like, you know.

Josh: Thoughts aren't facts, guys.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting.

Josh: One thing that I really wanted to get done in this episode is to get your barometer on what's cool. So, I'm just going to say a few things.

Lucy: I'm the biggest loser though. The things that I find cool are definitely not cool.

Josh: But see, that's the cool thing. I'm cool because I'm a loser. Exactly. This is, if we've spoken about this previously, but I've said to Tommy that I think that I was a really cool kid for being extremely uncool. Everything that I would do was hashtag not mainstream.

Tommy: Yeah, true. So it's more upon reflection when you get a bit older, it's like, hang on, I was really cool.

Lucy: I was a cool kid in primary school though. Like when, well, my first—

Josh: Yeah, but were you?

Lucy: No, no, no, but like, no, but my first primary school, I was one of the, I was considered one of the popular kids, even though I was in a club called the Guinea Pig Club and we quite literally ate plants. Like things, like leaves from trees.

Tommy: Okay, that changes when you become an adult and you do that.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a little weird. You're a criminal.

Josh: You're in trouble.

Lucy: Yeah, I haven't done that in like 10 years, so it's fine.

Josh: What sort of clubs have you, just quickly, what clubs have you been in? 'Cause I'm a—

Lucy: The guinea pig club.

Josh: If you've listened to episodes, I had so many clubs going in primary school that they banned them because they were saying— Oh, did they? Yeah, because they were saying, I've said it before.

Tommy: Josh was extorting most kids for cash.

Josh: No, no, I was just like, I think they thought that it was, Sketchy? Yeah, they were like, Josh, you don't need to have a club for everything. And it's like, I think they thought that it would disclude, exclude? Exclude, thank you. Exclude, we got there. Good with English.

Tommy: There was Charles Manson vibes coming through.

Josh: Charles Manson, really cult, cult. Cult leader. Great. The Sticker Club is the biggest cult of them all.

Lucy: Oh, it's like the Guinea Pig Club was a very exclusive club. Like there was only, I think, 4 people in that club. And you know, we're pretty much all still friends now, so.

Josh: And so the guinea pig didn't have to crucify guinea pig to get in?

Lucy: No, my friend had like 7 guinea pigs.

Tommy: So you just had to eat plants to get in?

Lucy: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, Josh, I think where you're going was more interesting.

Josh: Oh yeah, the cool stuff.

Lucy: Yeah, yeah, it's much cooler than the guinea pig club.

Tommy: Lucy reminiscing about clubs from primary school.

Josh: I knew that it was gonna get there. So, um, fidget spinners, cool or not cool?

Lucy: Oh no.

Josh: Not cool, let's talk about it.

Lucy: No, they just bug me. I don't know, I just, I did try one once though and I was kind of, for a split second I was like, oh, this is kind of addicting. And then I was like, no, no.

Tommy: What about using or dabbing?

Lucy: No, absolutely no way.

Tommy: Was it ever? Was there like a moment?

Lucy: No, I see, I do it ironically and just like.

Tommy: Every time I do it, it's ironically too.

Lucy: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna believe that, yeah. People, whenever I sneeze, because I know how to sneeze properly, unlike some people. I'm not saying you, but—

Josh: What the fuck does that mean?

Lucy: Some people just sneeze out and not cover it. So, whenever I sneeze, I sneeze into my elbow so it looks like I'm dabbing, but I have to clarify every time that I'm not, I'm just sneezing.

Tommy: Not even trying to be cool and you've become cool.

Josh: You've got a natural tick, which is a dab. The Simpsons.

Lucy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Cool. Yeah. Perfect. All right, great. Really good.

Lucy: I love most cartoons.

Josh: So, okay, what about, uh, going on cartoons? Yeah, uh, Hey Arnold! Have you seen Hey Arnold?

Tommy: Yes, that's old school.

Josh: Yeah, I'm going really old. Rugrats, did you ever watch Rugrats?

Lucy: I never watched Rugrats, no. Okay, yeah, I didn't watch— wait, Rugrats is Nickelodeon, isn't it?

Josh: I mean, I think they sort of expanded beyond Nickelodeon, but no, I, I get it. It might have been— I was a Foxtel kid.

Lucy: I didn't have Foxtel on Nickelodeon, it was just purely what was on free TV. Netflix.

Tommy: All right, just quickly. The other thing I wanted to do with you was get you to do an audit of Josh's Instagram because you do have the following and you know, Josh has only got 1,651 people. You've got 16.5.

Josh: So we wanna go through the dos and don'ts of Instagram, what I might be nailing, how's my aesthetic.

Lucy: Okay.

Josh: Any tips and we want you to be as truthful as possible because I would love to walk away with 16. No, no, no. I'm just hot, I'm just sweating. No, I'm fine.

Lucy: My eyes are sweating, I swear.

Josh: Exactly, it's my eyes.

Tommy: All right, so I'll just give it to you and just have a quick browse.

Josh: So just describe it and try and give the listeners an idea.

Lucy: First of all, this photo is really cool.

Josh: Okay, so it was a photo of my mum from 2003.

Lucy: Yeah, that like vintage vibe is very in and I 100% dig it.

Josh: Vintage 2003.

Tommy: So the way you do this, I mean like, No, I get it.

Josh: Vintage is 2000. It was shot, to be clear, it was shot on a fucking digital camera.

Lucy: No, I mean like vintage isn't— that's not necessarily vintage, but I mean like old school.

Josh: Yeah, sure. No, I get it. You're old as fuck.

Lucy: Yeah, I'm saying vintage from 2003. That means I'm vintage.

Josh: No, I get that.

Tommy: So what you do is you start with a positive and then you go hard with a negative.

Lucy: Yeah, so much is really good now, you know. No, but I think it's really, it's definitely very cute though.

Josh: Thank you.

Lucy: You don't necessarily have like a theme going though.

Josh: The theme is me, to be clear.

Lucy: To be completely honest though, I don't have a theme really on my personal one.

Tommy: But she has more followers than you.

Josh: She's got a personal one.

Lucy: You have more followers on this than you do my personal.

Josh: Okay, great.

Tommy: Another positive. What's the next negative?

Josh: So what about my bio? How, like, is my bio, is it using too many emojis?

Lucy: There are a lot of emojis and I'm not the biggest fan of them. Of emojis, but if that's what works for you.

Josh: What do you mean you're not a fan of emojis?

Lucy: I like heart emojis and I like the dinosaur emojis.

Josh: Okay, have you got your phone here? Can we see what your, just watch out for your headphones. Yeah, this is a disaster. No, I was gonna see what the top emojis were on Lucy's phone.

Lucy: Oh, okay.

Josh: Let's just.

Lucy: Some of them aren't even ones that I've used.

Josh: So I'll just talk through my top 5 emojis.

Lucy: While I find mine.

Josh: Yeah, so my top 5 emojis are going in downward, cry like laughing, the kiss, thumbs up, the okay fingers, guy with the glasses, and then let's just do the second row for a bit of fun. Shuckers, 100, party hat thing, heart eyes, and then a taco. So, that's sort of my top ones. What are the top ones that you're using?

Lucy: Yeah, mine are mostly hearts. Um, some of them are just ones that I've accidentally clicked on, uh, but the emoji that's like the, the, the—

Josh: Shockers.

Tommy: Yeah, is that what it is?

Lucy: Yeah, yeah, I love that emoji.

Tommy: I'm not gonna lie, it's a good one.

Josh: It's great. It is great.

Lucy: Good. It's good. It's good and great.

Josh: So I got good. Um, what else? The dinosaurs.

Lucy: A dinosaur. There's also that one that's just like the steam.

Josh: Hearts, hearts, hearts, hearts. Is that a bus?

Lucy: Yeah, that was an accidental one. I didn't purposely do that.

Josh: Is that an Apple Watch? Is that a watch?

Lucy: Yeah, these are all ones that I've accidentally clicked on.

Josh: The ones that aren't I mean, I don't know what you're trying to hide, that you're a bus driver in your spare time and you're going to be running late. Is that what's going on? That's fine.

Tommy: I'm on the bus.

Josh: Do you use— no, we're back on the audit. Go back to the audit. Sorry about that.

Tommy: No, we're heading there.

Josh: Just because I was into emojis. She had some emojis.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Go back. Thank you.

Lucy: Oh, yes. I think what would look cool though is if you did— this is just promoting what we did, but if you did some cool little things for your highlights.

Josh: Yeah, sure. Okay, so do you think— what do you think of like my highlight thumbnails at the moment?

Lucy: Well, I'm scared it's going to come up with like sound.

Josh: No, it's all fine.

Lucy: Okay, cool.

Josh: So Lucy's just tapping through the Daily Talk Show. What are you looking at?

Lucy: The, the, the— that looks like charcoal.

Josh: That's dark chocolate, thank you. 85% from Aldi.

Lucy: But you can't even see like— that doesn't Look like dark chocolate though.

Josh: Oh, well, I think the audio— I'm saying, yeah, it's definitely dark chocolate. It's delicious.

Lucy: Okay.

Tommy: Um, Josh, you're offensive.

Josh: Do you eat chocolate?

Lucy: Yes, I do.

Josh: Okay, what's the coolest brand of chocolate?

Lucy: Cadbury and Lindt.

Josh: Okay, Cadbury and Lindt. We've got to— Lucy needs to try Hey Tiger. Yeah, I think it should be awful. It's, uh, where my girlfriend works. It's a new chocolate.

Lucy: Okay, just getting promotion.

Tommy: It doesn't every time. I just think start ignoring him now when he starts talking about a brand that he's trying to plug. I just move on. So last thought, or on his Instagram.

Lucy: Yes.

Tommy: And it has to be like construct— one takeaway, one constructive criticism.

Josh: Come up with a theme.

Lucy: Come up with a theme. Like, or if you want to edit your photos and use like similar things, like I have VSCO X. See, I'm promoting VSCO X now.

Josh: Okay.

Lucy: So it's actually fantastic.

Josh: What's the difference between VSCO X and VSCO?

Lucy: VSCO is the free version. VSCO X is the membership version. The membership's like $28 a year.

Josh: So it's actually really cheap.

Lucy: Yeah. For like, and I thought that was going to be for a month, but it's actually for the entire year.

Josh: Great.

Lucy: And you get access to all their filters every month. They come up with a new filter, month, I think it's every month they come up with a new filter and they release it and you get access to all these cool features and stuff.

Josh: What's your favourite filter on VSCO X?

Lucy: C8 is probably the one that I use the most.

Josh: Ooh, C8's lovely.

Tommy: You like that?

Josh: Yeah, it's really good.

Tommy: So you need it.

Lucy: Or are you just saying that you just don't know how to do it?

Tommy: You need a theme if you want to crack the big time.

Josh: 'Cause I'm just using, I'm still smashing out X Pro that comes with Instagram, you know, and, uh, and his page isn't a business profile.

Lucy: No, make— yes, make your page business profile.

Josh: Really? Why?

Lucy: Yes, because then you can see insights, and so you can see when your followers are most active, so then you know when to post. And you can— you get cool things like you can see how old they are, where they're from. It's kind of—

Josh: I'm just worried, but you know, I'm worried that by putting onto the brand one, they're going to expect more cash from you to be able to promote.

Lucy: No, you don't have to. You can put it on like just personal blog. So you're not necessarily making any money from it. It's just a personal blog that you just want to see.

Tommy: You can get— you can see how many times someone's clicked through to your website that you've got on.

Lucy: Yeah, and when you, when you hit 10K, you can see how many, and you can add links, you can see how many people have clicked on that link.

Josh: Yeah, that would be handy.

Lucy: You can see if you tag someone's username in it, you can see how many times they've clicked on their username.

Tommy: Can you change it back to a normal account?

Lucy: Yeah, you can change it back to personal. Just in case. You can switch it in between.

Josh: It turns into a disaster. What's the, uh, What's been the progress of your Instagram? So where were you like a year ago with it?

Lucy: Um, I didn't even have Instagram a year ago. What? I started my Instagram account in April, I think it was April 8th, 2017.

Josh: And you've already got 16,000. So what was your strategy?

Lucy: Um, honestly, I think I didn't have a strategy. I just wanted to edit things and put it out there. So I edited, one of the main things I edit is the show Stranger Things just because it is a show that I really enjoy and, you know, like I always have a lot of ideas with it. So that is quite a popular show to edit.

Josh: Never heard of it.

Lucy: You haven't?

Josh: No, I'm just shitting with you. But I haven't watched— I don't—

Tommy: I'm shitting with you. Are you guys doing a shit?

Josh: Is that what you say? I'm shitting with you?

Tommy: It just sounded really funny the way you said it.

Josh: I'm shitting with you. Maybe you don't say that.

Lucy: No, that's not—

Josh: I was gonna say I'm fucking with you, but I'm trying to reduce my language.

Lucy: See, I was about to say that, but I knew my mum would kill me because she said you can't say that word. I'd be so embarrassed.

Josh: Biblical next to you. We're shitting. I'm shitting. Anyway, just being silly. Are we all done?

Tommy: Um, so how many— are we all done the jokes?

Josh: No, no, no.

Tommy: I've got one more.

Josh: Yeah, no, go.

Tommy: No, I'm joking. How long have we been going?

Josh: 26 minutes.

Lucy: So Lucy— 26, not minutes.

Josh: Well, yes, minutes is not a number, to be clear.

Lucy: I know, but I'm just clarifying.

Josh: So I want to know, was it hashtags? Is that what helped you?

Lucy: Hashtags are complete rubbish now. They do not work. Wow. Instagram has actually basically, if you have a certain amount of— this is, I think, how it works. If you have it over a certain amount of followers, your, your post will show up in that hashtag. But if you have under that, your posts basically just get lost. They just don't show up.

Josh: Is there any disadvantage with doing hashtags?

Lucy: No, like, you can always do it and just see, and it is kind of helpful, especially for editing like I do. If you put— if there's a certain thing that you're editing, like a certain actor, and you put their hashtag and you want to see more edits of that particular person, you can go through and you can see more edits of that person.

Josh: Have you had any copyright infringement notices on your channel?

Lucy: No.

Josh: Oh, that's good.

Lucy: You said channel again.

Tommy: Oh, get out of here, Josh.

Josh: You've got a YouTube as well, don't you?

Lucy: Yeah, I've only just started it and I'm still kind of I have a few ideas, but I have no idea how to pull them off. So Tommy's kind of helping me.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Yeah, we're gonna ramp up a YouTube channel. Yeah, get her out there. The first step is being on here. Yeah, helping us.

Josh: This will be very, very— helping you guys.

Lucy: And then it's like, okay, now that you've promoted us, we'll promote you.

Tommy: We'll help you.

Lucy: Yeah.

Josh: And so what, who, who are your favourite people to follow online on YouTube? Go on YouTube, go on.

Lucy: But, and then, um, I follow a lot of actors, um, I follow, I do actually follow a lot of people who are just Instagram famous or people who are models, just because I find their lives very interesting for some reason. But in terms of YouTube, I've met a few YouTubers. So like a few years ago, it used to be people like Kian Lawley, JC Caylen, Connor Franta.

Josh: These could all be a nice singer. I've never heard of any of them.

Tommy: Isn't he Connor Franta? Isn't he a singer?

Lucy: I haven't really kept up to date with him in the past few years.

Tommy: God, I might be cooler than her for one.

Lucy: No, but he used to follow me on Twitter and I was like—

Tommy: Yeah, Conor Frander does all those covers.

Lucy: No, no, no, you're thinking of Conor Mayfield.

Tommy: Yeah.

Lucy: Is it Mayfield?

Josh: You're thinking of Boyz II Men, aren't you?

Tommy: Boyz II Men.

Josh: No. I think it's Conor Mayfield.

Lucy: I don't know for sure.

Josh: So he's following you on Twitter. So were you a Belieber or anything like that?

Lucy: Oh God, no.

Josh: Okay, what were you? What's your— One Directioner?

Lucy: No, no, no, no.

Tommy: One Directioner?

Josh: No, no, no.

Tommy: You're into—

Lucy: Sossian? I unfortunately used to be, yes.

Josh: No, she's more into sort of Bon Iver.

Lucy: I listen to indie music.

Josh: Okay, great.

Lucy: So like Mac DeMarco.

Josh: Of course.

Lucy: My favourite band is The Frights, which no one knows of. No.

Josh: What is that, like a '70s band?

Lucy: No, I actually— well, I love The Cure, speaking of '70s bands.

Josh: Okay.

Lucy: I also love ABBA as well.

Josh: Yes, I love ABBA. Have you seen Mamma Mia at all?

Lucy: Oh my God, is that even a question?

Josh: Yeah, it was. If someone says that grammatically, yes.

Lucy: If, you know, if someone says they're like ABBA, you can probably immediately assume they've seen Mamma Mia.

Josh: It's true.

Lucy: The new one's coming out.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: Um, just one thing, we talk about this quite a bit on the show. Have you seen The Matrix?

Lucy: I have not, but I love Keanu Reeves, so I feel like I'm a fake stan.

Tommy: Okay, I'm disappointed in both of you. Less in you, Lucy, because you're 16.

Josh: Have you seen Mamma Mia the musical, like in the live show?

Lucy: No.

Josh: It's pretty amazing.

Lucy: Have you seen Les Mis? In this film?

Josh: I should know that off the bat. No, I don't. No, I haven't. Aussies? No.

Lucy: The French?

Josh: Yeah, no, I haven't seen it. But can I— I just want to really finish my Mamma Mia story.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: It was when I was in grade 3, the school took us to see the musical, and like the best part of it was that we all got fish and chip packs at South Bank.

Lucy: It wasn't even that the show—

Josh: No, no, it was just— I just remember like we got our own pack. Like, I feel like that was one of my own— like, I just loved anything where I got my own food pack. What's your McDonald's order if you go to McDonald's?

Lucy: Well, because I'm vegetarian, it is kind of hard to order stuff from McDonald's, but it's usually—

Josh: so you just have to have nuggets? That was a joke. Hash browns.

Lucy: I was so— I was like, do you know what are in nuggets?

Josh: That was a joke.

Lucy: I was like, it says chicken nuggets.

Josh: There's no chicken in it. Um, so hash browns, that's your go-to?

Lucy: Hash browns, hotcakes if it's in the morning. They call it hotcakes, but it's literally just pancakes.

Josh: It is.

Tommy: Can I show you a photo of Josh when he was probably 16? Your age?

Josh: Please do. Describe it. I was actually about 16 there.

Lucy: Um, well, your glasses are a lot cooler now.

Josh: Thank you.

Lucy: You don't even look the same.

Josh: I mean, yeah, because he didn't act the same either. That was about the same.

Lucy: I love how you said didn't act the same. He's holding—

Josh: I've got a clapperboard.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, he's acting like he's doing something that he knows how to do, but he doesn't know.

Lucy: So do I hold it like this?

Josh: So Lucy, to wrap up, what do you, uh, watch this already? Yeah, I know it has been over 30 minutes. Oh, isn't that crazy?

Tommy: We will get you back on at some point.

Josh: Yeah, tomorrow when we need more views. Exactly.

Tommy: We'll get you back on. No, but I want to talk to you more about your school because we have a lot in common as far as leaving school. Yes, you're 16, I was 16 as well, and it's a big thing transitioning from school into life.

Josh: Yeah, we don't need no education.

Tommy: So Josh, just quickly, Josh was like a— he thrived in that. Like, your— most of your memories are from the school?

Josh: It was all extracurricular. I was a complete academic.

Lucy: Yeah, the thing is, I'm like, I was intellectually capable of doing it. Not to sound narcissistic or anything, like, I'm intelligent.

Josh: What's 6 times 6?

Lucy: Why did you do that to me?

Tommy: 6, 6 is a 36.

Lucy: Thank you. I'm already anxious about doing this quiz.

Tommy: Josh asked you the easiest one that he knew the answer to.

Josh: 8, 8, 64.

Tommy: Yeah.

Lucy: Even I knew that.

Josh: Do one more. Go, just real quick, sorry to—

Tommy: 12 times 12.

Josh: 144. Yeah. Grade 3, I was the times tables champion based on—

Lucy: My mum would beat you on every of them.

Josh: Okay, interesting.

Tommy: Yeah, she's in the corner. Come out now.

Josh: Can we, we need to do a times table. I remember I did—

Lucy: I keep talking about my mum, sorry.

Josh: I'm getting really, I'm derailing, go on.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: What were you talking about? You had a high school drop thing.

Tommy: High school, and so I think like my life started after. I just felt like I had this whole new lease. It was like weight off my shoulders.

Lucy: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: And so you felt the same. I think we could go into that for half an hour, but.

Lucy: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Give Lucy a follow. Not that she needs it. Actually give us a follow. So don't follow Lucy, follow us.

Josh: Lucy's Scorecard. Scorpius with a dot after the last N.

Lucy: You know, if you just type in Scorpius, you'll see it'll come up.

Josh: What does Scorpius mean again?

Lucy: I was actually just about to say that. So basically, I am very interested in like astronomy and stuff. I actually wanted to do— I wanted to be an astronomer for a while.

Josh: What's the difference between astronomy and astrology?

Lucy: Astrology is kind of complete rubbish.

Josh: Ah, no, so astronomy is stars. Oh, astrology is the bullshit, like the stuff that, um, Stacey Tune is into. It's, um, like Crystal, the crystals.

Lucy: It's like if you're a Scorpio, uh, then you know you have these traits, which to a degree I believe in some of those because some of those are true. And I'm like, oh yeah, that is me.

Josh: I mean, Tommy believes in mediums. He can't say he believes in mediums, but then I wrote cards.

Tommy: Never said I did believe in them. Listen back to that episode. Okay, Josh was very defensive amongst the whole thing.

Josh: So you're into astronomy? Astronomy, yeah. So basically It's the one that I like.

Lucy: Scorpio is the astrology term, Scorpius is the astronomy term, and yet people always say Scorpio. So Scorpius is the actual term for my star sign, 'cause I'm a Scorpio.

Josh: So if you want to give people some homework, if they live in Melbourne tonight, where should we be looking for, like what stars can we see?

Lucy: You can, oh, I don't know the particular stars, but if you look up, you can see like the sun rise. The moon. You can see the moon and a lot of other little stars.

Tommy: Southern Cross, yeah.

Lucy: Southern Cross is actually relatively easy to spot, but there are a lot of like trickster ones, so they look quite similar, but they're not.

Tommy: If you don't spot it in the sky, you'll spot it on a bogan's back somewhere in Melbourne.

Lucy: Basically the biggest giveaway for that is there are two really bright stars that lead to the front, that point to the very front star of the Southern Cross. So that's the biggest giveaway.

Josh: Do you get into apps? Do you look at the app like where you can sort of augment reality?

Lucy: When I was really, really into it, yes, I did have like all the the apps. I used to actually go to like an astronomy club.

Josh: I was in astronomy club.

Lucy: I was the only teenage girl there. I was the only teenage girl. All these teenage guys were looking at me like, what is she doing?

Tommy: What is this, a teenage guy thing to do?

Josh: Yeah, I was in chess club and the astronomy club, but then the, um, you sound like more of a nerd than me. Yeah, I was, but the science teacher, he was old, he passed away, so then we didn't do it anymore.

Lucy: Where were you going with that?

Josh: I don't know. I mean, that was a bit dark.

Lucy: That got really dark really quickly.

Tommy: Yeah, what I was saying is that the one you shot his ashes up in fire works and blew them up.

Josh: Never happened.

Tommy: No, not you. You can do that. No, just side note.

Josh: But, um, no, he was, he was super. It was an old— Mr. Dom was his name. An old, like, uh, old Indian man. He was hilarious. He had, um, narcolepsy, falling asleep, middle of class.

Lucy: The only reason I know what that is is because there's a movie with River Phoenix in it, um, called My Own Private Idaho, and he has that.

Josh: So, oh really?

Lucy: Yep. It's, uh, he's also a prostitute though. In that movie.

Josh: Yeah, Mr. Don was not a prostitute. Lovely guy. I actually won a Mr. Don award like the first year that they were running it. Anyway, not about me. I made it about me, but it's not about me. I think I was SRC president at the time as well. Um, so, uh, astronomy, uh, very good, very good. We're done. Very good stars.

Lucy: That's the end.

Josh: Really great. That's good. Where do you consume— just very quickly, where do you consume your news? What? The news. Where do you consume the news? I don't. Okay.

Lucy: Watch the news.

Josh: It's too morbid for me. The gram. Too morbid?

Lucy: Yeah.

Josh: Sure. Do you know, like, do you know much about like wars and stuff? Pardon? Wars? I don't know much.

Tommy: Maybe kids, maybe the younger generation is becoming more awake. 'Cause it's like, I've moved away from—

Lucy: More woke?

Tommy: No, but from the news, like the news, most of the news is bullshit these days. Or it's like headline media where it's like trivialised or sensationalized.

Lucy: And it's all about Barnaby Joyce at the moment as well.

Tommy: So, you know, what did he do? Do you know what he did?

Lucy: Uh, too much.

Tommy: No, but so you've obviously read something. Yeah, all I've read.

Josh: So what do you actually— this is interesting. Yeah, so let's go the headlines.

Lucy: Controversy with like his partners and babies and stuff.

Josh: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's annoying, isn't it?

Lucy: It's everywhere. I'm like, we get it.

Josh: What else? What else is in the news?

Lucy: Um, There's usually a lot of stuff about other countries. Yeah, because Australia is pretty chill at times. It's usually in Australia, it's usually like politics.

Josh: Mm-hmm.

Tommy: But which is boring.

Josh: Are you into politics?

Lucy: No.

Josh: Okay. Like fidget spinners. Get out. You nearly got into it and then you're like, this is distracting. I held it for like 5 seconds and I was like, oh no, no, no, not cool.

Tommy: All right, we're done.

Josh: Thanks, Lucy.

Tommy: Follow us. Not Lucy.

Josh: Yeah, The Daily Talk Show.

Lucy: You can add Lucy.

Josh: We're on Instagram, The Daily Talk Show. We've been really slack, but Lucy, you're gonna be— you're as part of your work experience with Tommy, so we should have prefaced that.

Lucy: Yeah, yeah, this is what I'm doing here.

Josh: Lucy's doing work experience with Tommy's company, Frisbee and Co.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: And which, uh, one of the things is building some of this Instagram stuff out. And so The Daily Talk Show will be a fun little project for you to, uh, to work on. Okay, but, um, thanks everyone for listening.

Tommy: Can you get us 15,000, 16,000 in less than a year?

Lucy: I thought you were gonna say in less than an hour.

Tommy: No, no, you could buy them, but, uh, yeah, a year's like a lifetime.

Lucy: I want to clarify, I don't buy my followers either.

Josh: No. Yeah, don't even bring it up. Uh, thanks Lucy for joining us. It's been a lot of fun, even though, you know, it's kind of—

Lucy: you kind of want to be here for the, for the followers. Yeah, the followers.

Josh: Yeah, exactly. No, it's all good.

Lucy: You just unfollow me on everything afterwards. It's like, we're done with her. You just, you tell me to leave.

Tommy: You're like, no, I don't need you.

Josh: As long as we leverage. And if you like this podcast, please leave a review on the podcast app, the iTunes app, all of that good stuff. But thanks, Lucy. Have a good one.

Tommy: We'll catch you tomorrow.

Josh: Bye guys. Bye.