#030 – Fireworks from Bali/
- February 26, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Monday Feb 26 (Ep 30) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett.
Tommy & Josh both went to Bali in the 90s and have stories to share. Tax, religion and more!
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It is the daily talk show Tomi welcome. You read anything out? You start by doing this voice. Where did it come from? It's like you've basically just now. No, no, but I'm saying like that voice you just did. Yeah. Is like you when you read things out to me. It's the
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alter ego. Josh. If Josh was really less of a loose cannon, I just bumped my mic. I were out levels too high. Now. Fuck it. It's fine. Yeah. No, I do. Do that voice. What's the way is it? Who is it? Wait, Episode 30. Just quickly. Yeah, yeah,
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boy. It's a Monday. Yes.
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And we're recording this one. A little bit later,
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I forgot to do the pleasantries. Is that why you're getting it? Just thought. So.
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You know, you're just talking about my voice that I put on at the moment. If you can tell ya
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see if I can answer okay.
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You really don't want to answer it. This was the first time that I decided you know what? I'm going to try and talk and say what happened? I
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was talking radio when someone asks you a question. That's probably the time that you do. Talk. Okay. Ask the question again. We're who is that voice? Who is that joy? It's a fun. It's not fucking serious. I know. It's you, but just okay. It's like you're being fucking the anchorman
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voiceover voice do not eat something fun. If you're on your computer right now. Google. Just Jetson space voice 123 and I've got my own profile page where I'm a voice over artist
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can we slicing with the live one life that because I remember
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okay.
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Every year hundreds of you 12 students
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yeah I can't remember. Yeah. I like that as part of the annual VC season of excellence I like
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that I could imagine that on a on a on something yeah yeah on something like you're in a big auditorium and there's like yeah
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I like it I used to it because when I was added that when I was doing like it was a bit of a while making a bit of extra cash Ola right because what hassle a client would want a video and at the beginning I was getting chumps to do the videos and I'm like man I could
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I do videos for client videos as well because it's like we can make iterations as much as we want if we've got the microphone exactly it can be annoying but it's actually good that's that is a bit of a fucking stop me and Natasa to
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I like that. I think the advice I do do it a lot. Like if I see something, any billboards. Like if I'm going on a road trip. It's a bit of a thing where I'll just read out random things. So I'm, I'm just trying to look around things that we have really got nothing other than freshly ground coffee. 711. Hit me with your best shot. It's 711 coffee. My name is Josh. That's a bit of the vibe. No one that like I'm drinking a 711 coffee. So I'm going to tell you it. This is not thievery. Actually, you can be the judge of that. It's $1. $1.
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signs. Yes. Coffee. And what do I drink? Normally long black. Yeah. So fact up oppressed short black because it's like there's the $1 button and then straight after the $1 button is if you press that same button it just gives you a short black Okay, so I hit it and squirted out it's short black short black and I I pulled out halfway through so gave me a shot of
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look at me deviant. It gave me a shot. And then I was I was kind of just a half a short black. It's pretty much nothing. It's like a little shot of coffee. And so I pressed again which planes I should probably have paid two bucks. I pressed a latte and so show that some milk a little bit of an issue. shot a coffee and then I took it away just before it field. It may This is the best fucking coffee This is phase is too short. blacks. One long black and no, because it's double shot.
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A short black is a double shot.
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No, Black is just a single shot along black is a single shot with more water. Water. And so this is a double shot three core. This is like my normal coffee that I drink. You actually taste a lot better than I thought you were good sleeper. Yeah, but I'm working like tonight. So I wanted to I will be able to sleep tonight. Yeah, but yeah, I usually don't drink coffee. This light. It's fun. What is it? A pm? Yeah,
4:41
I wanted to talk about a few things about being sick in one show. Some people get really funny about being around sick people. I did think that for me. And so I've never been I've never made it an issue. But I've made jokes in front of people. I'm like, hard. I think I'm contagious. Yeah. And then I'm back in. Like, LA. It's like, this is serious business. Yeah,
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it's people's paranoia. Oh, I don't want to get sick. I you know what I say people in the city walking around with those masks on I'm thinking what the fact that they know that we don't if
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basic or they try not to get sick. I
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don't know. Like the chances of me getting sick from you is pretty fucking lie. Yeah,
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I understand. If you're going through like chemo or something like packing your white blood cells or whatever. Or fact me in system server light. Yeah. Then of course, you're gonna see a story. Yeah. So,
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so fucking embarrassing. I was at a coffee shop. having coffee with mermaid Craig half hour dropping his name. Yeah. And ups Habs how I a one of his mates walked up to the table and I just put out my hand shake his head and he shook it and then he walked off after the exchange with Craig in Christ hitting me Yeah, you probably shouldn't have shook his hand the guy was being nice he was going through some serious came on was blind be can see like, just, you know, sort of like I guess it'd be like colors going on in front of him like not a lot.
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And the kind guy shook my hand and was so nice. And then I look over to him, and he's got his hand sanitizer out because he's trying to rub off any germs like I get. It was like I was like, I didn't feel awkward at the time. But it was like fac, and I
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hated that one. I had something the other day where
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I'd played table tennis with someone and I had just the previous game had done a bit of a good game to the guy or whatever, shook his hand. And then I was playing table tennis with the next person who was a girl and then for whatever reason I was just like, wasn't going to do the whole good game thing. And I was like, Oh, no, I should like should just be trading everyone equal. So I went to shake a hand. Good game. And as she did it, she went for like a fist bump.
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But for whatever reason I had some sort of tweaking my brain where I didn't just react and fist bump I just didn't shake her fist, but I was just like, I kept my hand out there waiting for her to open it until she said, office pump, fist bump and everyone sort of like laughter little bit awkward
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instead of people watching this yeah
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so I don't know whether she's a German weather like it could have been anything she might not have like, like fingers and stuff like it could have been might not have had figured out 100% but I mean well you know like some people will have
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like hand things like where you don't have all your fingers or things like that is it where you took it she probably has hands yeah but the that can sometimes happen it's like trying to shake someone's hand maybe she just muscle do you add in that fact and standoff? Because it felt like it was as is embarrassing for her as it was for me. Okay,
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but now in there. And you say they know
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if they laughed? I don't think if she had no fingers. They wouldn't be laughing situation. Right? If you were hanging out with them all the time. If you didn't have a head or something. Yeah. And someone went for the like they would they would be a desire to make fun of it to make everyone feel comfortable. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I feel like I would want to lead I think that if I had something like that I would be constantly leading like I lead with my fucking toe thumb. And that's not much of a the guy who's got he's one of his fingers. It's half gone.
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And I met him and he's a good friend of Tommy day my manager and he said somehow I don't know I think we might have been drunk and may have said something but he but he was like a super friendly dude. So it's like, I think you feel like you're in a moment where you could ask something. Yeah, and he told me that he stuck his finger through a fence and a dog took it oh it's bullshit. Because then I heard him again
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his finger in one of those old spin box that had the blades oh
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he just uses his gear.
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Obviously Something happened when he was young but he is not fast about it. So it just makes up a new story every single time I've got a big dimple attorneys show you hang on maybe it's gonna require me to take the top off for a second hang on I'll walk them through to try and describe it without being offensive please headphones you're off man boobs
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All right. He talks going holy shit he's airy oh yeah I've got I've got like these
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bang on stand up straight and I do it in fact make me feel oh yeah okay when you stand up straight and put your shoulders back it looks like you've had a shoulder Reiko it looks like you've got a pin it almost looks like you've got a nail in each one of your shoulders isn't both arms but surely I sort of I think so. I mean it just yeah it's literally a dimple bits in a bizarre spot because it's like the wackiest shoulder it's almost like work connects right yeah
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but my mom has it too but the funny thing was that when I was a kid I used to tell everyone I know why outside this outside that I got stabbed in Bali
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like no joke as like a 10 year old that was like my gear head
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had Michelle Corby Chappelle
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open their head and maybe they wouldn't have been the terrorist attack that this was like pre all of that shit so it wasn't as insensitive so no but no I didn't mean insensitive but I thought you could have been leveraging
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I think I just I don't know I think I saw ballet is a bit of a foreign place would be there Where did you craft the story at all was I can't remember it happening Kuda Didn't you would have buying fireworks, I was buying a slingshot as buying back let's talk about you in Bali. Yeah,
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whatever the main value but should that you brought back Oh yes. So 10 kilos of the most pure
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we were there I was grade six know like age seven. All right, my grandma had passed away and we get an inheritance and we all went to Bali.
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That's what happened with us grand died. Do you think that's like the final Hurrah for a lot of people it's like Mr. passed away and we got the cat how how much of Indonesia
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like Rosie is based on fan grandparents and the trip because fact I remember that exact same thing i'm sure
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grand that was what anyway so go was nice.
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It was like a family holiday it's probably it was probably the last family holiday we went on yeah describe what you what was the experience like what do you remember we went parasailing which is like going behind the jet boat with a fucking parachute
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did you go law from the beach?
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Yeah but dude is so I was too young as in I think it would have been fine but I seen photos of is like fact I was a tiny little pipsqueak. I got my hair braided yeah yeah
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oh I don't think I dude I called me funny boy. Like in the markets like would be
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funny
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because I remember I would like cuz I had blond hair blue eyes and I was just a bit fucking outrageous and awesome. And I even I remember I bought a harmonica
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just fly the money girl the time I got a ring stuck on my finger. And I remember this dude with a big long
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thumbnail. Yeah, it was trying to do get it off. Yeah. And he was like digging in scared. I remember buying and I pestered my mom and dad to buy me these things that were like they came in like these little It almost looked like a toothpaste cylinder. Like a tiny little toothpaste cylinder. And you broke the my open and that was his guru that was like red or blue or green and it stunk like chemicals. Yeah. And you'd get it out and you roll it up into a ball and you put in this little little store into it, and you'd blow into it and make these huge bubbles and that will like it would be like a bubble gum balloon but they stay like in the shape of a balloon. And so we'd launch those off the balcony we also bought I bought a rifle BB guns
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I wanted to do that ship and mum was why not I tried to get a laser and then I finally convinced them your mom and dad to do it and the guy said $1 and we're like amazing like it you know their current like it was actually they said that $1 but not not like what yeah boss what is fucking Indonesian prepare,
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I can repay Yeah, yeah.
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$1 turns out they wonder one US dollar my like, Look, we'll give you to Australian dollars. Because that would work out like not
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us to be one us you can pay with US currency. Yeah, so dad starting granted, so we didn't get it. And so I got the shotgun. They know the rifle that you put these little green pellets into. And I was just popping sheet off the balcony. This being a bad little kid. And the security at the hotel thought I had a gat real gun like this shoot. I went I went back and I couldn't see all this kind of stuff anymore and it's probably tightened up but what we got with my brothers is fireworks we got like goon Lee's and skyrocketed back to Australia. We put them into not every board bag we put them into our surf board bag, so we put the skyrockets I took my rifle back and it was plastic plastic rifle and not all got through all God through checked bag obviously yeah check check surf bag for just never been
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opened crazy there's this is the 90s yeah definitely so
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much more lacks yeah I remember a guided at the gym telling me that he brought a gun back from Asia. And the way he did it was he took apart the gun in heaps of paces, and he put any strap stuff to ease video camera in his bag because he thought it was like something around he was like, oh, if it goes through, they'll just see it as pieces of the camera. Yeah,
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and it worked. But why does the guy from the gym Naked Gun I guess he
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doesn't he was he wasn't even a bad ass 30 was like just a curious you know, camped in my man he got back fucking serious baby gallons from he bought back and machine Gumby began Yeah.
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And these aren't like what I love is like we using Kempton is is like nickname as a code name it is fucking so
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yeah so this is the time we could bring back yeah
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Michelle baby guns that got through security I remember will traveling with someone who brought back a laser and got caught with that as carry on I guess if I can stood out and what they hit the hannity yeah I'm sure that they
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have you had any issue what's the Have you had any issues through security
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you are okay I me My wife has a New Zealand passport she was born in New Zealand she's not from New Zealand technically because he was born that she yeah she's a mom and dad from Australia for some fucking reason let's see what I can walk and are cheap flights
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they still cheap be fine yeah so they went over for some church conference or something like that I'm serious yes for some church thing and it was at the time he was going to be born you wouldn't be able to do that nowadays should need a letter yeah yeah cuz why they wouldn't want you in the country to have about like no way and so anyway she was born there and she's still going to affect New Zealand passport and then Australian one obviously no it's cheaper to our it's cheaper to just get a New Zealand passport then is in Australia and I've been begging on please just get your Australia in one place what is buddy boy get is going on here. And so she's a citizen of Australia but she has a New Zealand possible complicated yeah yeah really. So always always like get it fucking get the Australian passport we're going through immigration maybe four months ago three months ago we were when we went back to New Zealand and flying in she filled out the card and basically she filter that Latinos in Australian citizen which is but then when they see your card that says you're Australian citizen and your New Zealand passport we got pulled aside Yeah. Because you normally have to. I think like within the US if your juul citizen you have to still go in and out of the country on your us. Yeah,
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because what what specifically in the country I know because for instance, if you if you commit a crime
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and you've gone on the other passport, you could potentially just fucking late and so
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the issue is with immigration, you basically granted so I am using Australian citizen but has this New Zealand passport, which means she needs to be granted a visa when she entered as enters the country and some fucking weed. Yeah,
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it's a stupid thing. It's dumb. I've gotten obsessed before about passports I applied for my Green Card Lottery. Did you ever do that? And I couldn't because I didn't finish school are real facts. It's supposedly on the criminal record. Probably not Nike. I love that. I asked. Like, have you if you've been involved in terrorist activity or espionage? Or whatever the Espionage espionage
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that made you want to go down on walking along the Esplanade?
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What is that? What is that word? And I'm just gonna nod Esplanade Thank
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you, but
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no, I did your sessions possible? Uh. Yeah,
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I've been. I just there's this book called emergency which is by Neil Strauss, who wrote the game and it's all about harsh
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billionaire billionaires. I think they called the big club or some sheet and how they all have these fucking
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you know, different passport so they can like Doomsday prepping stuff. shit hits the fan as a way of like, reducing tax Yeah, me that was always the funny thing about me when I was younger. I think I've told you this before that I used to just I remember I would like be worried about like, I would try not make too much money because I was worried about like, my text people such a way of doing business. Yeah, it was also like I was so like, I'm sure that year I'd made like 18 grand like I will I wouldn't have a zero tax bracket. Yeah, if not the lowest tax bracket accessible. I'm sure I probably would have been eligible for some sort of send a link
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back
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Yeah, the year but the passports I was there's so much online about it. Especially with all this digital nomad shows going on. I didn't get it. So the point is that you can it's talking about what citizen like different citizenships different passports and how it can affect like the tax that you pay for instance so some of these there's two main ways of doing it I think it's like
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there's like location based tax and then there's like citizen basically long story short in the US they've changed their laws recently so if you if you make money outside of the US and you living somewhere else you still have to like declare all this stuff and it's still a big hassle do you pay tax to the American the IRS? Yeah I believe so. So sometimes there's treaties right where it's like the straw Australia has an agreement so it's like a little bit easier but it's not like if you're paying tax to another country so if you're Australian my understanding is if you're paying tax in another country because you're working there and all that sort of thing you don't have to pay tax in Australia the US is different in the sense of even you could be working somewhere else and so a lot of these people who not dodging tax but optimizing tax or whatever yeah they getting rid of their like I know people who have gotten rid of their US passport because it would equal devils like millions of dollars in like if you've got a huge business you could be up for a lot of money into
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snack it's like the people that live on what said Ireland is it well there's the facts of Monaco that you can is a low tax Yeah, said okay. All the tennis stars lot of tennis players that leave in certain areas think it's um, yeah, yeah, leaves in this place where you you don't you don't have to pay much tax and so they're there for three months of the year which classifies as them being a citizen or makes them eligible and so then the training there which is going to do it somewhere and then they go on the circuit for the rest of the
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genius man this is sort of fun just to fact around and learn about this stuff so one of the things that the US has done some people it's probably and so boring know probably like brief I can hide she's a way watching this boring fucking do it he's a real fucking weird unit just travels all around or wising like Southeast Asia probably a sex tourists that tax focus is name now because I've just accused him of sex now but you I've been like a city that we've known about it no this guy you very much yeah he's Nomad capitalist handle East he's actually a fun dude but he
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he writes all about this sort of stuff he's got a place in Malaysia talks about reducing Can I just make it very clear that last thing was a joke
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now that I've said already is I don't want someone just when you notice that Josh that's going everywhere with these words he's thinking about what he said one minute before I even talk somehow talking but also thinking about how can I get out of this fucking hall that I mean it's very hard reset it
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but no he one of the interesting things about this the tech stuff within the US if you if you own sorry, if you owe the IRS $50,000 or more, which if you've got a decent size, like if you got a business Yeah, that's not like a hard thing to do. They can stop you leaving the country Yeah,
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so Simon, Simon, Australia
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it's it's not it's not all it's I believe that the US have much stronger rules around that. So
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in Australia, they can ground they can ground you for not paying child support. Yeah, how fucking good is that? Yeah, all the scumbags that don't give the kid cash yeah like so they can live so there's like an amount of money paying for certain time you're not getting on the fly and so I read some stat recently about how much gets paid at the airport yeah like there's dudes that just dropped 30 Hi I'd literally pay the $30,000 they are and the fact that they had that money
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that's my point
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yeah it's like those people like you think that okay if someone's not paying child support that they're low in cash and doing it really tough and but the idea that years I'm rich backer not paying black kid but you so they can do it for text to yes it
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will it will flag it's flagged on the sound on some system do the tax my mate
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went into his bank account and there was three and a half thousand dollars missing any sees this fucking line on it's like tax department they had going in and taking that money cry didn't even touch it like he didn't pay anyone yeah he had an overdue or something was not paid and then they have the power to go back and rip it out. Yeah, well it's like the Scientology
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know lovely to action
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for the IRS have made them yeah, taxes. So which means they're
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like a charity is a religion. Religion. Yeah.
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But I was listening to David Miscavige I think that the guy who's the head of David Miscavige Yeah, he's the head of the site also intelligent moment, he spearheaded the move to have them tax exempt. Yeah,
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and I heard the way they did it. I'm watching my words, because I probably don't want to get killed by the Scientologists. I actually remember this was even going clear. I believe the documentary Yeah. And
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so they they brought litigation to the IRS, but seems like hundreds and hundreds of law. So yeah, that meant that the IRS which are you and the tax department Australia, they're like, fucking unlimited funding. Yeah, they had to put a pin on fighting against these guys to get tax exemption. And I did it. Scientology has
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a crazy amount of real estate. I was filming in Los Angeles. And they
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were we were filming we're filming at Soul Pancake, which is Ryan Wilson's like YouTube channel. And they Scientology was across the road. And they did not like us. Even just filming like a block away. In fact, in the security God's got their own bikes and shit. They go up and down. And the weird thing is that like the cafes and shared around, they're all like owned by Scientology's so you got to be a bit fucking on the god it's like,
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Oh, is that one on
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Santa Monica? Or the one that I saw was it's like these really big blue Yeah, yeah.
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No, it's got the big one at the front. Yeah,
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and that's the one that's like really close to
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two. Yes. So
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you know there's one for in Mooney pawns. Yeah, it's awesome. So I'm Flemington road and it looks like it's coming like it looks like in a new age church not like yeah
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so I could churchy church it's sort of like a build it looks like it could be a council it well could it's just got a few churchy looking things and then it's got the big church of scientology really quickly before we go because we've only got a few mins you're
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going to get to a Scientology session. It's
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I wouldn't know closest you've ever gotten to being religious. I told you on another episode. Tell me I grew up with a mom who are ye show and she would you ever been unreal? should go like should you ever do that independently though? Have you ever sort of gone on your own path where it's like you're 18 and before you know it you're in a youth group and you're not my wife went to Bible college and by the way
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this is like college but they have an emphasis on studying religion and said there's a lot more subjects that are around religion which they wouldn't be if you were going to college was actually university or no yes she lived just often lucky can live on campus I think what we she's studying oh i think i think music she's been a couple of times not to that bit unique you should know what she's fucking study not
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easy for getting married
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yeah i think was music but anyway but my point is I feel like when there are some times that it's like I have that mindset of like it's like nice to like prying yeah is essentially reflecting on something and being grateful and all these things so I take those elements but then I went to like we should go to heal song up in Sydney if we're ever they should go here and like I'm not one that I'm not a heel song person I don't know what they call the church he'll Sumerian but it's so fascinating going just people hands in the air
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man you know it's like
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man should be sort of your to I think you to yeah I don't think you'd ever turn into some of it goes to church on a regular Joe's I
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don't think that there's any problem with it but
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I think that what i what i would love to go with you about is you so fucking observant and and I do that and I did the same when I went there and it's like
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wow and they also lost your knees which is like you know that's what the Christians talk about like they
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will know their own fucking language for things right like you will say rather than just saying I feel like I was meant to do this will be like this is my calling. There's a lot of that I didn't know is Christian a Christian he's talking in tongues as well. Yeah you know that I would be so good at that. I think we've had this conversation about talking in town no budget will that I think I could do a good job for one but also
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I feel like
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if I was to get into the hill song thing yeah you know back and big I could like really get into a complaint instrument that's probably a problem I feel like I could I wonder if I could say look I'll be part of the religion but you've got to kind of be a pastor from day what like I'm not fucking I'm not I've got to be onstage yeah
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be an MC could do that I was I was hanging out with at that wedding in New Zealand and I'll saying yeah the pastor of he'll song in Newcastle so it's like a massive church and he's like oh yeah go back tomorrow to get a thing and get a session on a cigar fuck how many people do is like or you know thousand 1500 on a Sunday night it's crazy like it's it's like a stadium it's it's full on and it's so it's so interesting I think you will lock it yeah
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if he fucking don't even give a shit about it well I've done all the behind stuff like my friends that are behind I actually enjoyed I've gone to do some cool shit where it's like in Chicago going to like one of their churches and getting a cool access and shit
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it's being open minded to that stuff not saying you need to actually convert or anything
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it's just about learning right I'm just saying the world is fucking fascinate you want to learn about that sort of shit it's like me going to Pakistan and going to mosques and seeing all of that shit it's yeah it's super cool but I was speaking to someone who has done he'll song you've done a couple of the other ones they said he'll song they thought it was a bit cliquey and you sort of go there to be saying which is so funny for like a religion is it isn't there he goes to Planet shakers which is saying it's a little bit more laid back
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yeah i can't i don't know about the Clichy like I think it's that's everyone knows each other, right. And it's like there is there's seems like this love It's like you could imagine how that quickly turns into maybe people talking behind the backs excited not locking each other. Just because they going to church doesn't mean they're not going to talk behind each other's backs. I could imagine that happening. It's like any close group of peoples your people start fucking like you got some tools as well. Right. So they were like,
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Josh, that squeegee story that wasn't
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Josh, this podcast? Yeah, exactly. What's that? Yeah, you should probably can it
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and we're about to right now. The Daily talk show everyone we do have an email address. It is high at the daily talk. show.com currently those emails just got to make that out. So we can both be in there. And if you would like to send us any actual physical mail, it's p o box 400. Abbotsford. Victoria 3067. The funny thing about me being sick is I feel easy for the first time and I'm talking to the mic. So if you hear that,
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I apologize.
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Okay. See you tomorrow. Bye.