#008 – On the topic of travel/

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It is Thursday the 25th of January and it's the daily talk show with Josh and Tommy episode eight episode I've done what I said that I don't really want to do which is sound to radio

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giving you an intro yeah just the there's that classic sort of radio lines that you will hear like the anchors doing

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there's either that can just get started straight away yeah it's

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that where they've come that somehow found you through something and read something before they'll click on I just want to like it's the difference between saying hello to someone a true and just kidding just done talking which is probably socially awkward able do that here I've got a friend who will who won't say bye at the end of the call so go okay

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and just hangs a hangs up what do you what is it

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like I think it's just she's American don't know if that's an excuse

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I'm gonna make that you say to him Oh Hi Mike and he says good thanks he's been in this situation does that do you think it is so awkward situation that he's praying that you would ask him how he is yeah

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and he's good thanks anyway let's move on so but we were talking about how it would actually structures so eight episodes in yeah we're not telling anyone about this podcast on social media we're not broadcasting into

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our yeah

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followers were taping this so if you're listening right now you are a lucky few more that might be a lot of people listening lucky. Yeah. And but what we are trying to refine this Yeah,

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and I think it's like you have stories on everything and I would say I probably do too. Yeah, so a topic if I did bring one I'll do mine Today I'll bring a topic today you bring it tomorrow you'll be anything what today's topic is travel

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okay like stories from when you're traveling on what comes to mind when when you think travel? I mean I feel like I always talk about the world trip that I did that three months three months it was a work trip Yeah.

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So is that majority of where he travels come from doing work trips? Yeah,

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I think so. I think

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probably the most Yeah, yeah,

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probably they're probably 50 I know it's very right. Yeah, but send me in with some headlines are some stories that you have one option to tell me like some good stuff. I can tell you mine. I'll get some good headline. I'm

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interviewed by the Federal Police. Okay, that's not bad. That's one I feel like some of these I've already I've already told on air as well.

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Fact on here. Whatever you want to call it. This conversation that we're having is to humans

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Another one would be

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let go of my mom's dress right? buy more And the final one would be fact I don't know man put it you say this is what's really hard. Even when I was helping with true story. Hey, mission Andy's show radio karate show getting people to come like if you say tell us a good story. People fucking don't know what to talk about. So having that travel prompt is one thing but it's almost like being like what's been the most uncomfortable situation that you've been in when traveling

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all right into that most uncomfortable situations know if I can read here we go

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squatting toilets in general

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with fact back and he goes but I love what do you what do you say when I was

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in Indonesia I am

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didn't realize like you've got these wet rooms which is where they do all the scoring right so thing and I went in there with my socks and just had fracking wet socks to take if she had to take your socks off

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well you have your shoes off when you're getting the inside but I'm just an amateur so I just I mean the weight room with my when really take them off beforehand when I was in Florence he had to give a little quarter or whatever the luck of you know towards everything in Europe like enjoying a fucking Mac is to pay for take a piece and then what was a train station in somewhere in Italy there was literally gates to get into the bathroom that you had to open with a one euro coin it's ridiculous crazy the

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toilet situation that is a big that's that's something that is so common in Europe is having to pay for it for that sort of thing I love like that's one of the best things about McDonald's is I don't say McDonald's just as a great food establishment I also see it as a trailer no yeah it's a toilet wherever I go I think they get because you probably by cheeky cheeseburger on the way out anyway well I wouldn't bet my my point is that I know that I've been going there for you know 20 odd years

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yeah

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exactly but I actually Where's your preferred public toilet around the world no yeah tell

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me about if you've got a story about it and now I think it's trying to get some good ones Tel Aviv have some pretty fucking forward

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like what is Israel like? Yeah so Israel a lot of this fallen two paces bits of it's quite dusty and like, looks like they're trying to rebuild us and there's a lot of construction going on. Yeah, but like around the beach area. It's pretty it's pretty futuristic in terms of showers and urinal blocks in the taps feed drink bottle like yet fully inserted drink bottle underneath this talent section and then you press this button it feels drink bottle it's like why does it someone go from Australia Melbourne travel around the world and work out and bring that doing what best yeah and then bring it back and we have this surely late can sort of

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streams everywhere good

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bc water that would be epic. And they took the toilet situation in America,

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you've got the fracking lot, you've got a massive gap. I don't know if you've noticed this in the cubicles there's a there's a decent sized gap for the taught so you can actually see people in and out I was talking about the

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other restaurants is people in there. Yeah, you're selling minutes and yeah, toothpaste and refreshments and like cologne so you can pay so in the nightclubs in LA you which I haven't been to like it's a whole world but I just don't say isn't it it's it's crazy there's a lot of people spending a lot of times in the toilets yeah he comes in LA

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but you can buy it you can get everything I became friends just wonder like I just wanted to tell a couple times and he was just in there just he was writing money because people is walking in handy and five bucks 10 bucks shipping culture is annoying though like

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Brian I like it we're trying to it's fine when you you're not really trying to be conscious of of money and I've been to the states before where it is a little bit like I've been Lusa but I went through this time of like, I'm going to be a bit more conscious. And I just felt like a jerk because I'd say oh you know we'll take your bags up to your own my my car now that's okay. I can do it. It's just like doing it but then they see that as a being a bit of a dictator. You think if you don't give the bellboy if you're not sort of you've got to give you have to tip I fuck

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it. I fucked up.

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Where'd you fuck up

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and tell me if using this. If you get a haircut. You

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have to tip Yes.

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Yes, I didn't. I met this dude. And I was the guy working in a cell on. And he was it was cutting hair. And he was a Kudo. Know when I got the fair cat. And it was like 60 bucks. And I just walked up. And then I realized the day after I was meant to tip Yeah, it's so he probably feels

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now. But if you're Australian, you'd hope that that would know. I remember

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that.

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I spent $150 on a haircut. You know, I and it's like,

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hey,

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it was um, it was at the market. trying to think of what currently right yeah. And winning to a like a barber type sharp. I got some hair product to I think for that hundred and 50 hundred and 50 back. Yeah, but I was just shocked. Yeah,

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to keep on top of that it was a it was 150 old. Like, I remember looking at my bank. And that was what came out back in from my statement. So that included like a hair wax or some shit, which would have been like 50 bucks. But still, $100 was insane. They shaved me as well. So maybe maybe it wasn't as bad. Alright, so traveling because you're about to embark on some traveling that's not work related. Because

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most your travel has been like, it's one thing to do travel for work. And it's another thing to just say that your pennies you don't want to actually do. This

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is a new type of travel that I'm going to be embarking on because if you think the categories that I've done of travel has been short term, and I would count four weeks or less is short term travel. And that has been personal travel. And then long term travel has been company funded. Now the thing is that short term travel for for four weeks, you can justify spending a bit of money because it's you're in this y'all low stakes. But also there's this idea of fact, I'm going to be back in Melbourne soon. So if I want to spend a little bit on this helicopter ride. If I have to check something on the credit card to do it. We'll do it because we know that next pay will come in and will be sorted. So that's that's that style of travel. I've been a shocker of side I like a lot of the travel I've had I remember when I finished at the radio station and I thought that I was gonna get a certain amount of money back if the seller you know what you're trying to calculate how much you're gonna get. And I'd let me guess they paid you two weeks. Yeah, so they don't have to. Exactly Yeah, yeah. So the annoying thing bang that I ended up in this situation where I was like brain on book this trip to the states and I went with no money. I just had credit cards. So I just you like I do not like I think we might have had thousand bucks or something that we could have from cash just so we had some fact man the dangerous thing about that is if you lose him all if you lose all your car. Yeah, yeah. Nobody is when you

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actually have zero. Cash screwed. I

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did that I did recently. Yeah,

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I didn't lose it. But I was thinking if we one of these cards. Oh, I was worried because I hadn't called the credit card companies telling IBM Yes. Which I

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can go to do that. Can see cars. Yeah. Why? Yeah, that's annoying. The but so the thing with that's the all low style travel, then the company travels amazing because you have a fucking per Damn, it's not much like we're talking 60 us a day. It's 20 bucks a meal. When you go to a taco shop? Chicken blowed you have to blow it all. And if you don't load or where is it? No, you would we would just get the the money. So you'd be given to you to be a block of money. So it's saying okay, you're getting 60 bucks a day. 10 days? He's using the box. Yeah,

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for you. Exactly. Yes. Six acre. Drop it all in one day. Yeah,

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you could put

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it Yeah,

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my mate nice on who should know like, grow up. He's 40. But he was eating cheap. So you could use part of his name. To buy an electric drum kit

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that

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God is being is its customer fucking fortune. Because he's, he's, he's moved a lot since then. And he ends up having to pay all this exit. He's having to drive to move to the Gold Coast. Because he's drum kit because he wouldn't be able to check it in a slightly but it No. So that was all covered. And so you don't have to worry. Like I was able to save money on those trips. So I was very fortunate worked my ass off during it. But this next version of travel is where it's like Penny pinching, trying to save money. You're not staying in just the hubs like London. Or we're doing a delay and things like that. But it's like, you have to be prepared that if you going there to. Unless you're gonna go hostile which we are going to go Airbnb homestays

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hotel type stuff, you're going to spend

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200 a night still, and that's not like being fancy. And that's the same as 1000 euros. And he joined. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, 200 Australian will like that's going to Sorento war, you know, some way like that is initially and yeah, so it's a little bit of a hotspot still, you could probably go into the outer parts and we want to do a bit of that stuff but it's gonna be different. You know

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what it's like, if you can manage to I think that will bring a whole new level of venture Yeah, just as at

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100% Well, the thing is that it's the more you spend doesn't equate to a better experience

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and some of the best experiences have been just like leaving your hotel exploring so that's what this trip you know will be going away for four months

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yeah and so getting on the trains over in Europe like a lot of its Yeah, not in English. And you pay for this ticket and you don't have to go through gates to get onto the train so you jump into this thing starts moving anything fuck I hope this is I remember I did that in

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San Francisco on BART Bart their train system and just ended up completely the wrong direction. fact if you struggle in a non foreign law, in fact, in that regard, I feel like I've gotten better. But the thing is that we're traveling slow to allow for mistakes. What about feeling unsafe? Yeah,

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I reckon before we even tell stories about being unsafe. It's like, there's definitely a vibe, a feeling, you know, city. Yeah, makes you feel unsafe. So Tel Aviv I didn't feel unsafe Barcelona, Spain, it fucking, I felt like I was on age, she felt like there was people wanting to get at me because they knew that I wasn't from. Yeah,

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so I think that the big one of the lessons that I've learned is while wearing a baseball cap, snap back and shit. Like that is something that you do in Melbourne. When you go to fucking these other places. Just dress like a little bit more if I can euro, so that maybe I'll buy a leather jacket, it's gonna be some of the only year it is even your pain. I don't know. But the point being is, you don't want to stand out. The other fucking thing is that

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you want to avoid like, one of the common common things that happens with pickpockets is they will hang around where those signs are. Do you know why though? The pickpocket is in this area, like the

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more loose now because as soon as you say a sign, you feel your pocket to save your wallet still in there, which gives them a visual cue of exactly where you want. It is. Yeah.

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Which pocket so a little mother? Fuck yeah.

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So I tend to like walk with my hands on my side. And I can sort of brush I won't do it. Classic sort of tap in the West patch. Had the guy lost his wife. Yeah. So it's just sort of like, oh, I'll do that. But I for the first month and a half of my world trip that I did in 2014. I had a passport holder. Think that like when around my neck? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's,

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it's worth having that passport thing. It's so annoying.

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What's the longest you've traveled for?

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Eight weeks in one go to the States. seven weeks. And that was the suck on that, Jules. Lunch stuff. Yeah, yeah. And then I went back for another three weeks, couple months later. That was for the presenter, the Hollywood and then Europe. I've done a couple of times, but it was like four weeks. And now the three, three or four weeks. But when I was in Barcelona, I reckon I got peak pocket. I had cash in my pocket. Yeah, and it'll just was gone at a $20 20 euro note. Yeah, I was walking around by myself,

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didn't feel anything, but nothing serious, got taken. But then I got fleeced by this fuck on the foreshore. There's in Barcelona. There's like nightclubs that are kind of underground. Yeah, so there's, like these big boardwalk. But be concrete walk. Yeah, along the water, some

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sort of like a Santa Monica. Like that

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kind of thing. But it's like, Yeah, all these nightclubs underneath and then come out sand level. And so this is slightly elevated. And there's all these nightclubs where there's like an entrance that sort of takes you down stairs, and there's a rope with the red carpet. And before they opened my, the person that I was with, we're walking along. And this guy was a, you know, everyone's trying to fucking pull you over to sell you something. Yeah. And he pulled us over. And he sold something, which was a ticket 10 euros to get in later that night, and had a fucking name of the club on it. Yeah. And it had his number on the back of it. I went back that night with this ticket. Yeah. And I walked up afterward benefit in it, because you need to get these things. So he told us so you can get in? Yeah, when it gets busy. This thing fucking didn't exist. There was this nightclub. This guy would have just been standing on the other side of the red robe. Yeah,

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and pulled us over like, Man, these people trying to like there's desperation. And it's it's all levels like it's in Southeast Asia. It's in the US like the amount of times that I've had. And it makes you not want to engage

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the big scam slash non scam. The biggest scamming non scam there is, is comedy shows in New York and in the US with a minimum drink stuff. But not only the minimum drink staff, there'll be selling those tickets on the street.

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They're actually they should be free. Like we had one. I don't know the specific fix of it. But I remember vaguely remember being in New York and having a conversation with the guy he just sold. I'd seen him just sell some and we're talking about it. And he said, Look,

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I'll give them to you just like get the drink. Just do the minimum do all that and that's fine. So I'd like them. There must be some sort of commission ship. But just I get that it's a part of it's a part of the comedy saying there but it's, it's fucking annoying. So

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if you've never been to New York, there is it's the similar to the US does this. How does this company clubs? Yeah, it's like in Melbourne. When the comedy festivals on there's all these people walking around speaking comedy show, but they're not selling your fucking they're not selling the tickets. The whole idea is, it's like, Yeah,

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get your tickets for tonight's show. Blah, blah, blah. You rock. So you give some money on the straight and then when you? Enter the cycad is a two drink minimum. I remember getting like cookies and shared but I realized that the things or drink Yeah.

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Did you get milk Big Boy,

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they didn't have almond.

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But the I understand. We actually should

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we should get my mic. Simon on at some point to talk about that. He's a comedian. Yeah, because he's also a bit of a hustler. So he would like he's he can probably speak in a in a better way around like, is this important? I'm guessing it's important because it brings a lot of people but i i bet most most comedy shows would have mainly like tourists and ship because they're, you know, tickets. So I bought we went to see a New York

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Knicks. Okay, yeah. No, not the baseball team. Yankee Yankee Stadium in the Bronx. Yeah, and we bought these tickets we looked on maybe it was Craigslist. Yeah. And we found this guy and StubHub potentially maybe StubHub It was a weird so I'd never heard of it like 2012 and we found we were staying Lori side Yeah, we had to go sort of Midtown to get these tickets of this dude It was so bizarre right? We rocked up and this guy has a season pass as be legal over there that you can hand out the ticket or even if it's not and even if it's not you just you don't have to have my the person who hesitates and so we rock up and there was this rich dude in this like apartment complex like if you live in Manhattan yeah

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you probably okay yeah you to anyone if you live in Midtown, you probably do yoga and this was like a nice building and he just was like this weird eccentric dude and he comes down with like two pieces of paper printed out tickets and we gave him like 150 backstage and fuck and it was an event a fucking expensive like the NBA and shit I remember saying a Golden State Warriors game back in 2012 in like January what you even that was the year that was 23 January 2012 it was for it was close to Super Bowl time as well as there for like a month so I think it was like when he saw me that's exciting the I was there for Mac world which was the year that if a party time back well actually it was a year that iPhone cases became a big thing so it was made just report you can see on that Melbourne gig side I still have you can say me that was from that 2012 that make like asking about these iPhone lenses that this company had but yeah the

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baseball doesn't have to be super expensive though that's where I learned about baseball specifically there's just so many tickets and share that like you can spend 25 bucks and be up quite high gives the fact but we're up so high yeah it's like so steep those stadiums are like yeah if you fail forward you can tumble

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fucking hurt yeah could die yeah

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it's the yeah I mean it's all part of the getting ripped off is part of the travel experience even

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Yeah, I've had things like when brain I first went on now overseas like when overseas for the first time together when we were in Thailand

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we pay we paid so much for that trip but we also pay them a drive that every single day to drive us around completely on it like we thought 40 bucks for a driver which is fine which is like a fair amount and all that sort of thing but you know if you need it but human the first day he said the This is a classic scam or a bit of a white lie that taxi drivers or drivers in different countries will say they say if you're saying I'm want to go to the mall they'll be like article closed at the moment it's mine open til 1030 or I'll make up a time they'll say well we can join us to take you somewhere else in the meantime and yeah and I gotta look I know this great place like let's go there's a great jewelry shop or there's a great he's thing was there's a there's an elephant sort of farm type thing and it gun range so we got there and I ended up like a gun range ah that could be be fun and we got there and I opened the door and he bang bang bang my man I close the door I was like he actually had to get the drive to get out of the car and like like how it was holding my arm tied to me what was

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the feeling well yeah i was

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just thought like shooting just death death I get it like hearing that we're going to shoot you thinking you know it's just like okay we're like we don't fucking know this guy we're going to this I've have done no research I don't know what the deal is with the scenarios

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21 young

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Have you ever done the gun range thing now I'll use in Vegas and I didn't I wanted to use you can do the machine guns and so in the US have actually changed their laws yes Zuckerberg yeah doesn't know strange strange citizen you can you can even go behind the glass so I mean in Thailand right yeah yes yes yes

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a bazooka account you can preserve it is it's disgusting it's really bad the foil

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back that five well that's the thing like you can there are these places that you know sex tourists like it was tourism we just have you been to Bangkok

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Poquette Have you been to what's that walk where all the sex tourists guy yeah.

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Pathak Yeah, yeah. You had? Yeah. What's the vibe? I don't know if protons. The main one. There's actually there's a lady boys like, yeah, this is all that sort of stuff. Does it the vibe that I'm talking about? It's great. I think what's grosses? What's a grossest is very sad is when you see stuff that could be human trafficking, like, you see a lady on the street, begging for money. And, you know, and she's got a kid with her. And you know that that money is going into some big pool of gang cash.

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But I had a few like it. I've had a few cases of where, and this is like, I'm torn around, I want to give people money, I want to look after people and support them. But I don't want things to be a waste either. So there's this empathy side of me. And then there's this non engaging side, or, you know, don't want to engage. And I had a case in

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San Francisco, where I did the classic thing where I said, I, you know,

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I don't have money, I won't give you money, but I'll buy you some slice of pizza. And I'll get one, two.

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And then we got into the pizza job. And now I'm like, getting all wrapped up around what I'm going to get. And

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I

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I said to the guy, he's a, he's the money for the pizza. And I was just kidding it. And then he never ordered. I got my paper I said by. And so I think he just waited until I left and then left the pizza shop, you idiot, which was sort of annoying.

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So what he wanted. Yeah,

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a space. Yeah, yeah. But so many cases of that. We had an instance where a guy was like, are, you shouldn't be around like, we were in the tenderloin. And I had, I tend to learn tenderloin is a part of San Francisco, which is really, really rough. So the reason like there's a few sort of stories I'm whites could tend to line but one of them was back in, I think, 70s or something like that. They said that the police officers were paid so well to look after that area that they could for the tenderloin every night for dinner. But yeah, we were around that area. Which fact there's so many hotels that just like it's one of those things where you go one straight across, and you there. He didn't know we had a guy going like, Guys, you shouldn't be here. Where's your hotel, our walk with you. And then obviously, he walks with you. And then he tells you a sob story, which there are a lot of fucking sad stories in the States. Like he just did have to. I fucking believe he had surgery. He's got no fucking money, because that shit happens. And I have empathy for that. And so we gave him a tip for his times during you. Yeah, but that was he's selling so he's selling fear at that point. He's like, Guys, you really shouldn't be hanging around here. I'm going to protect you. And you felt we felt safe. But in some regards, we were with at least got a photo with I said, Can I get a photo with you and my girlfriend bright and I got that photo. And that was it felt like some affair transaction

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or all about that transaction. Yeah, but man, there's so it like, I look at the desperate people in Europe. And I think some of them are really crafty. Yeah, if you focus your energy somewhere else, you could probably make it Britain probably not in that climate. Like they are at the end of the year with. It's like, it's so so desperate. Yeah,

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it's pretty. It's pretty hard. What's the craziest thing you've ever eaten?

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Nothing. I've saved my cat sushi. Yeah,

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I had a when I was in Pakistan.

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So I haven't been to I haven't been to like real, like, I haven't been to fish markets in Asia, or Pakistan or

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turkey or any of those places where we went to a nice restaurant in Pakistan and we're eating all these different dishes and one of the guys said, Oh, do you like lamb Brian sit on I'm fine. Thank you. It turns out that I'd been eight like I'd been a Grady Fuck, because there was something delicious. It was like a calorie type thing. And I kept like, scraping and turns out that it was lamb Brian. It was like, so. I mean, see, it was delicious. But apparently can have it that often because it's like, full of fat. But I had this

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in the Philippines. What was it called? too high, too high for the code. There's basically there's in the morning,

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there's like a dish that's like a subway. Like, I I'm not a fan of the bubble teas and things like that. In Asia people, little pearls. And yeah, yeah. freaks me out a little bit. But what's the obsession with it? I don't know

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to haul I think that was so tall is like, I think was called to haul if my Derrick Rose listening, he can rip me apart, but it's like a drink. And I just, it's like a soil sort of with a bit of syrup. And they come out and actually Claudia couldn't

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pull you in. So this guy in the morning is walking around the streets doing this. But what On that note, the thing I loved about the Philippines is everyone has their own mini business. So we would have dinner and it was like, sort of like a restaurant. It was like somewhat, it's it's restaurant vibes in the sense of like, you're paying for food, but it's actually just someone's house.

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It's just the front of your house or not. They have this site in the Philippines. And I'm sure there's a lot of other places in Asia that do this. But yeah, it's just you when you have what you've got. So you know, and you just sell that that stuff. So it's like art I can cook so people you know, people in the local area will come and eat at your place where you at all like delicious food, but like things like chicken fate and stuff like that as well. But I'm a lot of rice or eating with our hands.

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Where's the nicest people

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with the friendliest people?

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friendliest way if I have the friendliest, I think there's, um,

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I don't know it's hard to tell at this point. Because I think that

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you know, people say are you know Balinese people are so lovely, or these people so lovely. But obviously, we're getting a very sort of tourist experience, but I think it's more polarizing when, like in France. Yeah,

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the French a bit more reserved. Yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely.

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I think like, yeah, Eastern Europe. I think what I love about that, like Macedonia, Romania is they all have that sort of Eastern European, like, no smile look like they have real factors that the buttons Yeah, but the thing is, the fucking sign is

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so that's, that's like, one of the things with travel is it's like, you learn that this this parts you know, there's parts of the world where people are so not like Americans

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like they, they always like so many of them are really nice, but there's also the limiting factor of the fact that they're like, great, great performance. So you could think you're a fucking idiot but they will put on a show and you feel great and you feel great and it sorry, is that any different to authentic you know, going to Eastern Europe and having them being a bit cold at the beginning and then just getting on and chatting about creativity and I don't know like I think that it took me a while to realize that

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the hard thing with travel is you there's this fine line of face value and being open and just trusting people and also having your instincts will straight smart Yeah, you need to be this and I'm a bit odd on the street smarts in some regards. I've got none Sam I've got a bit I flinch I'm such a flinch or do you flinch? I didn't flinch at Android Design Minnesotan face it it's pretty magnificent flinch in what scenario two weeks ago walking in Collingwood 930 at night she walked up beside me I jumped

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or she working at what she just walking past yeah i think is it fair enough to flinch I'm your you're you're on edge but I think straights. Math is very important. Yeah,

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traveling. Like he just his gut instinct reading situations in the app, you know, knowing how to get out of something or what's this being personable it's being able to have a comp communicate, it's being respectful as well. Yeah,

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it's it's all of those things and

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it's knowing when to engage as well because you don't engage with everything. Yeah, because if you do if you stop every single time someone in New York yells out a new york yankees if you're wearing a fucking I stopped wearing any team hats because I felt like a fraud because I don't fucking know anything about the sports

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but yeah that that's another one that will do is if you've got a new york city like Yankees yeah so beyond until I crash

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right travels fun sometimes you got to remember to try and travel in your own city which sounds like a fucking cliche but I know I'm like that like I wanted

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so it's like the vibe I've always thought like this for me very unique maybe tell me otherwise you when you go away you have a different vibe about you when you're in a new city yeah so things happen opportunities come up you meet people and then start translate that to normal everyday life because you get back and you can place in any like or whatever about yeah my car

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you gotta move well yeah I think it's um so how can you talk a little bit of you travel vibes to home life and that doesn't mean always exploring but it's like things like trying different restaurants and shipped to you right it's a bit more open it's been being open it's about you know not just being in your bubble if you live in North Side go south side you know if you live in the burbs coming in the city in the city go to the burbs it's it's that sort of stuff I think then if you've never traveled de de nada that's there's a lot of unknown like there's a lot of uncertainty when you travel you feel like when you don't know directions somewhere I don't know if I can directions of Melbourne so I don't know like that's the hardest here at least familiar with surroundings when you have never seen anything for the first time if I ever seen anything like this is what the fascinating thing is about living you know you in a city is you start to learn suburbs like I couldn't have told you where most suburbs and we're still can't but like I said think Doncaster was city like that was Melbourne city like that was counties grew up in the burbs chance done that's the city you want to go into the city where you want to go let's go chance to like that's the sort of show I'm talking about you are you got to find a better run thanks for listening you can listen to all our episodes on the daily talk show.com and we also have YouTube channels Tommy's is youtube.com forward slash Tommy jacket and

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Josh gates you

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know com forward slash I've been a bit slack in the last week but you get your shit together gonna be some we've been very consistent with this we haven't missed it feels I can grab nearly died on Monday from the sickness but I'm back massive soak right back tomorrow the daily talk show thanks guys.