Tommy Jackett: [00:00:00] Very low barrier to get into the wrong spot.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:07] We're committed to do the daily talk show for 10 years. I had guys
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:11] in the calendar just like
Josh Janssen: [00:00:13] to check the temperature in the room. I
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:15] told you my squeegee story.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:19] Yeah, it's the daily talk show episode 900. And. 75. That is right.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:24] I'm back
Josh Janssen: [00:00:25] here. Rusty, man. Yeah, a little bit rusty, a little bit rusty. And it's written on the paper in front of you. You're
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:30] rusty reading. Happy chewy Tuesday guys. I
Josh Janssen: [00:00:34] forgot my, you are good. Well done. Uh, kick kicks off. Thank you to Redfern convenience store.
Oh yeah. So
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:41] we've got two versions of extra. We've got the polar ice. This is Wrigley's, uh, and a sweet watermelon. Is there any other flavor, anything other than sweet watermelon? Isn't watermelon, just a sweet flavor.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:57] Well, there's a, there's a whole song, watermelon, sugar. I don't know why I was singing that watermelon sugar Harry styles.
Yeah. Why was I singing it so much on the
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:08] weekend? Is it funny meme about how he starts that song? It's called watermelon sugar, talking about strawberries. That's annoying.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:14] I've actually been there. Can I go watermelon please? Um, my hair, my hair is a little bit wet cause I walked in. You asked
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:22] me going. Um, yeah, so.
I mean, that's a good effort. Cause this morning it was very drizzly, not
Josh Janssen: [00:01:28] as rainy is what it has been. Like. I remember that day where it was absolutely pouring pouring it. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:33] I mean, I saw a hot air balloon on the way. Oh, wouldn't bother well. And knowing and knowing that you pay 600 bucks and it's raining, you can't cheat.
Like this is the problem. I once drove all the way to the Gambi. Which is two hours from Melbourne to go skydiving and they called it off. Cause it was drizzly
Josh Janssen: [00:01:53] really. And then I feel like we should ban helicopters. The French billionaire that died in a helicopter crash like two days ago. How, how do
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:01] rich people not get the memo that helicopters.
High dangerous high chance of ruining everything there. The
Josh Janssen: [00:02:08] four wheelers have four
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:09] billionaires, three wheels, three wheels, a real dangerous compared to, I didn't even know there wasn't the churn. Yeah, they don't really sell it truck.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:16] So this is the long list flavor. Sweet watermelon buy extra. Wrigley's.
Sorry about that. Um, wait, throw by me, uh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:26] real smelly, 15 sticks, 15 opportunities to connect. And then it's got all this little cartoon of, um, people sort of pick it up, Dayton. You like it? Yeah. Artificially flavored. All right, here we go. Thanks to Rachel. She classic. Classic war man at a, at a, at a
Josh Janssen: [00:02:51] 10. I'm going to give that like, it, it tastes familiar.
So I'm going to knock some points off because there's not a huge amount of innovation in that. Don't you agree? I'm going to give it a seven. What are you still pretty high. Yeah. What are you giving him a six? It depends on how long it would actually. Last, I think that's, uh, not,
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:13] not you go to not you just every day, chew it kind of, I think that would be that's your three o'clock to when you're feeling like a little something sweet.
Yes. But you don't want to blow out and have a Mars bar and you, and you just haven't that, um,
Josh Janssen: [00:03:28] uh, on the rain thing, uh, you know, running in Melbourne, as I mentioned, uh, I've been reading a book called how to read water. How do you read board? I've got two interesting facts. Do you want to use it? Well,
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:42] there's a lot of, um, information in water.
Josh Janssen: [00:03:45] Yes. Yeah, there is. And so water is our.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:49] Life blood. Yeah, it's our water. We need it. If you say you hate water and take a look at yourself in the mirror. It's thanks to water. Have you been
Josh Janssen: [00:03:57] watching? So I sent you a video about a ghost town. Yeah. A guy who bought a whole town for 1.4 million,
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:05] his whole life savings plus other people's lives.
Everything. It's pretty amazing. What's amazing about. California is you can go a few hours outside. So Los Angeles is in California, but you can drive like two hours and you're in the mountains snowing. And you would just in the heat? Yeah, you would just in 24 degrees.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:23] It's like three hours from LA three hours from Vegas.
Okay.
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:26] Um, so that's like deserty mountain esque, but it snows. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. What's it called? What's his YouTube. Sarah. Oh yeah. You see the
Josh Janssen: [00:04:37] name of this so many times. Sarah soda. No. Anyway, famous mining, Brian Underwood. I believe isn't it yet is his name. And, uh, uh, but anyway, they didn't, I have water so that they would access their water.
Cause it's a mining town, apparently 700 feet underground. There is water. Is that they have a pump. That would pump the water up and give the water to the town. But, um, it was broken like, uh, 2004 or something. So they haven't for the last, actually it was like 14 years at what? 2006, the last 14 years they haven't had running water.
And so they just got to fix, but it's been, this is
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:22] crazy. Yeah. You mentioned that. If that was the S how does it work? Is it the same water that's been down there? Is it just like chilling in a, in some kind of natural? Well,
Josh Janssen: [00:05:33] that's what I'll find out, but what I know so far, I'm at the, this book about water, uh, you know, like flooding and how things flood, like rivers and stuff they flood.
When do they, when does
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:46] that happen? Uh, usually after a big downfall, it's either. Cause it's so, um, because I used to explore, uh, drain pipes a lot. Cause a kid always knew never to go before a stone. Like it could be storming and raining out in Oakley and there would be a high water in garden Valley. So
Josh Janssen: [00:06:08] I'm going to blow your mind around why that is.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:11] Well, why. Because it's raining in one suburb and the storm water is pushing it through.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:18] So this is crazy. So in the book he says, Tristen, I think is the, the author's name he says there is. Um, how about if I said that flooding happens before the first drop of rain even hits the ground?
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:36] I say, show me your information because usually if it's.
Like if there's flood, flood waters are usually connected to rainfall in some area. So that straight. So
Josh Janssen: [00:06:47] the reason is, is because you know how you have low pressure systems and high pressure systems. So low pressure systems. Uh, main that the water rises. And so a low pressure system, like we obviously connect up with rain, but, um, the way that he says to remember it is blue sky is like pushing down on the water.
So like a high pressure system will make the water go lower. But, um, yeah, isn't that fascinating? So when the low pressure system comes in, you're actually seeing flooding before any water, because the water's rising because of the pressure, right. The atmosphere. So is
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:24] it legit pressure? Yes. It's funny.
Cause I never connected the pressure thing. Yeah. Or just like you said, connected. Yeah. Well, not writing. Isn't
Josh Janssen: [00:07:32] that interesting, interesting fact giraffes. The only mammal that can't swim.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:38] Fact, but they're so tall that the water that they'd go into, they're usually taller than a drum. Imagine seeing a draft in, in a swamp or something, and it's just their head out.
Yeah. And they're just still walking walk and they'd be in trouble because if that thing fell over, they're real clumsy. Yeah. Drafts are real clumsy and now they can't swim. That's it that's a shame.
Josh Janssen: [00:07:59] But anyway, it's, uh, these are interesting things to know. Like, I feel like, um, Learning more about weather and water.
Like I haven't gotten, I'm only a chapter and a half into the book. Yeah. But I'm already excited about when I can read puddles because like that's part
of
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:17] this book. Yes. What for what do you, what's there to read about a so
Josh Janssen: [00:08:21] just knowing. So he was explaining, um, how water works in general. Uh, and so if you have a glass of water and if you actually look at it, the water is not flat.
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:35] So it's beveled.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:37] Yeah. So it's like, if it was a rain, dry was confused. A concave. I think it's either concave because the water will actually attach itself to the glass at the top. So if you look at water, it will. Yeah. I have a little concave shape, which I thought was interesting.
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:54] Are you going to be the guy that connects two bottles together and put some sort of colored liquid inside as in water with some colored dine, turns it upside down and it creates the
Josh Janssen: [00:09:02] Whirlpool.
I could definitely get around that, but yeah, there's a bunch of interesting stuff around like water attracting water and then there's, um, Vargas. Is it cool? Nobody's cold. No, no, it's not called Veritas. I remembered it because I thought of it like veins, varicose veins though. Think about like, you know, people say are like, if someone's got like a bit of a red nose that pillories not that like, I'm trying to um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:31] Hilary's Capella worries.
Yeah, this one's a word.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:34] So I think the, um, uh, so I need to do more reading, but there's examples where he's talking about like water. Doesn't always, um, it can go against gravity. So like, think that, think about a tree when water goes at the bottom, it's like makes its way up. And so it's talking about the stickiness basically of water.
So water, water will attract other water. If you look at, if you tip some water on a kitchen bench, you will see that it sort of blobs. And then if you sort of connect to them, it's sort of sticks
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:08] together. Yeah. And these guys made a living out of talking about that. Well, so yes, this is a year for, uh, we
Josh Janssen: [00:10:15] didn't guys pour some water on the heater,
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:17] but you didn't know what did you.
I knew about the water touching together. It's interesting. I mean, and that's just what
Josh Janssen: [00:10:24] it is. So it's, I think there's
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:27] well, it's connecting up. It's it's um, so I've got the few little drops and now connected
Josh Janssen: [00:10:32] hydrogen molecules and oxygen molecules. That's all I know. And so I think that bringing it together, which, which they like, so that's what water's made of apparently, like, I don't know, we need to get a scientist on the show.
Maybe
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:44] not this stuff. I mean, it's a good flex. If you then write a book with it. Yeah to then I don't know the pressure things. Good. You got to look at how, how can you attach these things to every day?
Josh Janssen: [00:10:56] Nothing like he's, he, he starts on a yacht and talking about like, uh, indigenous people use all of these different things.
Like they fucking taught that he was talking about the Pacific islands and, you know, they actually like taught James Cook. How to do shit, you know, just being like, um, like why doing it that way? Like raid the water and like the, the best people, like from a yacht perspective, know how to read the
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:26] water, the sniffing smelling, smell, and different looking at the sky.
I mean, all of those things like remember, um, red sky at night, shepherds delight.
Josh Janssen: [00:11:37] What about this? Actually, that reminds me another great fact rainbows.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:44] The most cash at the bottom of it
Josh Janssen: [00:11:45] that I knew it is gold. Now the, um, the more red in a rainbow, the thicker, the raindrops. Hmm. That's good to
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:54] see the raindrops, but sometimes it's not even raining you somewhere, I guess.
And, and you seeing a rainbow and
Josh Janssen: [00:12:01] so I'm not, can I just be clear? With everyone, I'm not an expert on water. I won't even be when I read the book, today's very interesting learning about this stuff and being able to apply it. So if I know, you know, like, um, went on a beach the other day, if I could read the wives and know where the water's going to land, that will be my fate.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:24] It's it's pretty, just fucking watch it. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:12:28] But there is actually like you could, he talks about mud and just how, um, uh, the wet mud he's further away than where the water hits. So the water hits, but then it seeps through. So like really, I
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:47] mean, I'm, I'm interested in, um, in a quicksand. Always was as a kid quicksand and, um, rockfish that can kill you.
I remember reading a book and it was just all about rockfish like Australia or Australia has some real fucked up animals, some real fucked up say creatures. Yeah. Just that we'll end. You end your life. Look at Steve Irwin. Poor bugger. Yeah. No, that's not good. That's done by a bloody stingray. Um, Uh, the Royal family, jeez ways there being a bitter hot water.
I was thinking I was watching, um, Meghan and Harry speak to ARPA last night. I was thinking fucking Josh Janssen has a problem with social media. Look at these guys, but she can't Ray. Can't go on social media. She hasn't Megan.
Josh Janssen: [00:13:37] Megan is us not Megan. I don't actually know . Yeah, we'll just, let's stick with one.
It's annoying. Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan Markle. Let's call it Meg. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:50] You can't get, get Meg wrong. Yeah, because you don't say me. And they were saying Meg last night. Yeah. And she calls Harry H so let's, let's refer to, she called an H and H so let's call him H and Meg. Yeah. Best mates.
Josh Janssen: [00:14:06] What'd you do?
What'd you think?
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:07] W how fucking wild? I mean, the media we know is trash. Daily mail specifically real trash, especially over in the, in the, um, in the United Kingdom. But the, the, the, the, um, they're in each other's pockets. Like they're having soirees at the fucking castle and they're inviting the media to then put it on for them.
And so it's like this handshake going on between them about what's going on, but I mean, you've. It seems pretty toxic. Like it seems just in, in relation to just, um, not talking about how you feel or being inside a system that you can't break out of. Like that's what Harry was hate. Sorry. It was talking about not being able to he's broken out of it and his brother's trapped in it and he's, and he's referring to the trapping being.
Just that world. It's interesting. It's like seeing a guy who is seeing the light, or it just realizes it's almost like someone coming out of the Jehovah's witness or, you know, some Muslim sort of tight knit family. Like I've been listening to a woman who I on Hirsi Ali she's was, um, Uh, she, you know, ma arranged marriage when she was young, left, it escaped, became a refugee in the country.
And just like her being blown away, that there was this other world out there. And Harry is that version where he's like, you know, he's just this guy who's converted to, Oh my God, there's another life. Yeah. Like I can now ride a bike with my kid. Have chickens have chickens. I couldn't do that. Shit. Maybe chickens he had, but do you think he did?
He might've. I mean, they had a lot of land. It was more, it's more about what they could do off the property versus on the property. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:15:53] Yeah. I thought it was interesting how he would speak about the queen. His grandma. I loved because yeah, but he's like, yeah, love grandma. Like get along with like, what's confusing, but isn't grandma like.
In charge of it all, isn't it like saying I hate this company I hate, but like you absolutely love the CEO. It's a little bit, like I thought that was a little bit
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:17] confusing. It seems like he's got a, an understanding that there is a way that it almost has had to be over the last hundreds of years. Like it's full on.
I mean, that kid has had, it's so sad. Like. Fuck what a messed up family life that'd be. I wonder if there was a lot of moments where I was like, Oh fuck. I thought I had a bit of time. Yes.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:41] But I think Oprah did a good job, but she gave a lot of pushback. Don't you think? Like, I, I think that she, I had forgotten, like, I can't remember, um, like she interviewed what Lance Armstrong tiger woods, like a bunch of these sort of yes.
Um, which she said to start with, like there's no deal not paying anything, but then you hear in the media $9 million.
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:02] But I don't trust the media. Yeah. You surely there's. You then have to say they are lying to the camera when they say we are not being paid for this, or they don't need to be paid
Josh Janssen: [00:17:13] for it.
They don't, but I'm sure the thing is that it's like, You're building, um, partnerships with people, right? So it's like, you might not be getting paid directly, but obviously there might be a Harpo production or, you know, all of these other things that are connected that you end up seeing the financial reward.
It's like all the politicians where it's like, hang on. How does Joe Biden? Who's been a career politician live in a multi-million dollar. Harm,
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:39] you know, in the mansion, it's like Seth Godin coming on our show, he doesn't get paid, but he gets to, you know, give his book a bit of a plug. Yeah. It's just that we're plugging their production company that would plug in a few pluggy.
Uh, Oprah did a cheeky plug of a new series that she's doing with Harry on Apple, mental health. Yeah. Through, through Apple. But it's, it's a crazy moment because the world is watching. I just felt like I was like, Oh, this is just like a glimpse inside. The, the Royal family like listening. Imagine, imagine if you were just doing a tell, all right.
Now, mine at a nary war and it was hard. Like I wasn't allowed to do this. Like mum cut me off. He got cut off the security. Thing's fucked. He was cut off from his whole. So that's the weird bit like your family. They're still family. Harry is still. Related, that's never changing. And then they get a cut off his personal security, meaning all the death threats that he's already getting.
It's like, they're forgetting about those. What do you think
Josh Janssen: [00:18:42] security looks like? That's what I was wondering. I do it
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:45] Navy seal ex Navy seals like that. Joe Rogan shit. He's got Navy seals, like ex Navy seals that are hard as nails. Like I just sort of tailor
Josh Janssen: [00:18:55] them and they hang around everywhere.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:57] It's pretty, pretty regular to have security field.
Over in the States like that guy, Tyler Perry, who they borrowed his house for three months, he gave them his security data. He's worth a billion dollars. So I'm sure he's just got security all the time. Imagine what it would cost to have security. Yeah. Should we should find out
Josh Janssen: [00:19:19] what the cost
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:19] would be. I mean, I need security fucking with the shit going on in my neighborhood.
I do want to talk about it's in the media. Anyway, it's a wild time for, I just imagine the tabloids over in the, over in the UK at the moment, I just think about, you've been to London. It's very light. They love it. They love it all. Like, it seems like
Josh Janssen: [00:19:42] tablet, it feels like tabloid media was born there.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:46] It's got that on the what's it called?
The, the S not the subway it's on the tube. Like seeing the, the, um, the paper, like, it was a real experience being over there, just seeing the, um, the, like, what a place with someone, like having something like the Royals and how they say it. Like,
Josh Janssen: [00:20:05] it was all confused. I find the Royal thing just confusing as a general concept.
Well, they're
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:09] not the only thing they, the government are. They, we need a Royal expert. Cause it fuck. It's so interesting because what decisions do they get to like the Queen's signing off? Yeah, I mean, I don't have the intro. Like I'm more interest sit in the Royals than water, even though the water, uh, it helps me live.
No, I just
Josh Janssen: [00:20:28] feel that the Royal thing to me. Feels like an entertainment reporter that's found in there. It would be somewhere there's a real, yeah. Like, yeah, you see them all the time. It's like, they'll come on. They're talking specifically about the Royals. Um, in some regards to they're part of the whole system though, it's like, if you want the, the scoop on 'em.
A brand and then saying, Hey, can we get the, I guess it's not like that, like that. I was gonna say, it's like getting the head of marketing in to talk about it. But I think there is like, um, Meg talked about the symbiotic relationship between the media and the Royals and all of that sort of shit. And so the parties.
Yes. It's, uh, it's just, it's all, it's a little bit Wade, just even the, um, yeah, I mean, I think. And it was
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:20] this weird. I mean, I'm not that surprised about all the things that were said. It doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like it's that far fetched for. Claims of racism coming from, you know, the Royals or like inside the family of like someone asking, you know, saying stupid shit or like it's a family, they're humans and they're, they're all flawed.
That's the thing you see, you see the queen on your coins. It was
Josh Janssen: [00:21:49] funny you saying, uh, when Oprah asked Meg, who was it? Who said it? And then when she brings out Harry, I was like, It feels like there's the whole thing where magnets, like, I didn't say who it was because it was heading in the direction of Oprah Bain.
Like, so yeah. Tell like,
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:05] who was it? Um, so what they're referring to is if you haven't watched the interviews, someone had someone asked what's the skin color going to be of the kids that Harry will have with me, Meg. Um, they've since come out and said it wasn't the queen. Okay. And it wasn't, um, the Queens part, was it, uh, or, or Harry's dad.
So he's come out and said, I'm not saying who it is, but it's definitely wasn't the queen.
Josh Janssen: [00:22:33] Yeah. Yeah. They fucking love the queen. I end them loving the queen, makes me want to love the queen.
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:39] I love the queen sharing little Snuggie with Meg like that. We're at an event and sharing the blankie together.
Like, you know, your mom, your mom's been on a, um, on a boat cruise with, with Bree, but that's, that's Royal shit in there. Like that's families coming together sharing to go
Josh Janssen: [00:22:58] say it. Yeah. It's um, yeah, but I feel like in some regards it creates a relevancy because I couldn't give a fuck about all this stuff, but yeah, we watched it
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:09] too.
Yeah. Yeah. It relevant to the real stuff. Well, it's a, it's a time. That's what I that's when I was like, this is a piece of history. Yes. The Harry's kids are gonna grow up and be like that time. Mum and dad did a sit down interview, did the expos on the Royal
Josh Janssen: [00:23:25] family is like, there's a lot of that history stuff happening at the moment.
Doesn't it? It's like, we're going to look back. Am I going to be like, wow, that was, that was weird
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:33] because most of the things that. Most of our men, most of our experiences go think about it. I was hearing someone talk about this recently about like, um, the moments you've had some really great moments in your life, a good meal, a good experience, and the memory is completely gone from your scalp.
And so there's only certain ones that are in there. It's and that's, that's a bizarre thing. Like what sticks sometimes bad ones stick for trauma. And that's
Josh Janssen: [00:24:03] it. Well, I bring in, I started watching the Woody Allen taco. I don't know. Sorry. He's sort of, it's very fucked up sex pest pedophile. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's yeah. I mean, yeah. Speaking on the spectrum of the worst of the, uh, that was full-on cause they sort of tell the story. I wouldn't, I mean, it's, it's a privileged position to say don't watch it, but like. It's it is it's, uh, consuming it. You wonder, um, what Alyssa, I guess you gained some empathy for people who have gone through this, you know, trauma or whatever, but you don't, you don't walk away feeling good.
It's a four part series. We watched two parts and brain. I like, I don't think we'll watch the rest cause it's just, you know, they, it sort of paints the picture to start with of. Happy family staff, he ends up. Um, so Woody Allen, uh, married it's it's actually, uh, yeah, th they're married, been with his, uh, what would you call adopted daughter?
Uh, for like 20 years, 20 plus years or whatever 30 years is
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:21] he, where is he now?
Josh Janssen: [00:25:23] He's he really, he, he released a book and stuff. And so he's come out and said, no, he came out and said no to all the claims, but then, um, like I had a moment last week where I was thinking, you know, cancel stuff. Like the ability to cancel people is just so toxic and it's so like I'm fucking out.
Like people canceling other people. I can't be fucked, but then I guess you got like, in that watching the documentary, you say, okay, well there's like clearly, really toxic people, nasty people, like people that are not even nasty or like just completely flawed people. Um, is that our garbage truck
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:13] taking Jess's a fishy fucking what's she bad?
Stinks
Josh Janssen: [00:26:20] the raw chicken. Um, yeah. It's it's it gives an interesting perspective.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:26] What are the not, what do you mean they're nasty people though? Well, no, no. So
Josh Janssen: [00:26:28] the thing is like, so Woody Allen, like it's you watch that and say, no, you, you actually are canceled. Like you can't, I can't watch a Woody Allen film.
Not that I, I mean, I'm a bit of a doofus when it comes to watching stuff. He, so I haven't actually seen these films, which I probably should have as someone who. Does, you know, video production stuff, but, um, yeah, no, you walk away being like, uh, like just there, there has been, it's been a bit tainted. Oh man.
I think that you like give it a watch and then tell me what you, no, I mean, I've
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:02] watched the, the, um, what's it called? The Jeffrey Epstein. Diaries or whatever it was. It's just sad.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:10] Like, I think that the thing is it's like, okay, it's really sad. It's an intro. Like I think that the hard bit is that's like, they talk about it at the start.
Like, it's this amazing life that they're all living. And then it's obviously the darkness in that, which I think of then sort of, of create this, um, feeling of, uh, like. Even good. Shit's bad. My it's just a bit
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:34] negative. I mean, it's at the point that it is a documentary, there's an entertainment value in these seats.
Entertainment sounds weird to use when you're referring to something, an incident or a pedophile, but they are made to be entertaining or to take you capture your, um, your focus. And so. All those it's it's full on. Like I'd get around, which is weird to say, cult films, more like, um, not cult films, but is in films about cults.
And like, I'm more interested in that from a human, a human perspective of understanding these people and how they're drawn into these, these cults. But then it's like, you're talking about real life and that's where you can be just sitting at home, just watching and so removed from the reality. Yeah. And then you watch and you, you get the feeling, but then you go down to MCAS after you're pretty happy once you get that, you know, adhere to that Sunday.
Yeah. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:28:38] I did watch as a sort of positive taco though. The Winnebago man, if you heard about this,
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:44] Winnebago a caravan. Like that's a brand of caravans like
Josh Janssen: [00:28:48] these. Yeah. And so in the, uh, mid to late eighties, Um, there was a, um, like I think like a corporate video, they called it in industrial video about Winnebagos.
And there was a guy who was an, a presenter who was presenting all of the material and he was so full on just like swearing and, and just sort of run a mock on set. That the, the filmmakers, all the crew that was making the video was recording between the scenes and put together a hit, no hit paste, but it was like a montage of like five minutes of this guy gone.
Fuck, what's my line and all of this sort of stuff. And, um, This is obviously well and truly sort of pre YouTube and stuff. And so people would make copies of it. So it got to Winnebago and the guy got fired. Um, you know, no more video that he, you know, he was to present no more videos and. Uh, the video started to get copied a bunch.
So it's like the classic VHS, you know, you put in a tape and then you put in another one and you dub it. And the, the quality would get worse and worse. And she was sort of like, you know, dub it more and more times. And it was, this is like viral videos before viral videos and, um, Uh, a guy who is a filmmaker that loved watching it, um, it sort of came to YouTube and, and became big on YouTube, like, Oh five Oh six.
And this guy makes a documentary trying to find the Winnebago man, because he's sort of. Completely gone off the radar. They get a private investigator here. The guy's only got PO boxes and stuff, and they find him in the mountains and he's a hermit. Really? Yeah, fuck that. And I was saying like
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:43] video box in the mountains, hermit.
Ah, it's got all that done on set screaming.
Josh Janssen: [00:30:50] He said, and his friend. Uh, who's talking about this guy, Jack it's sad. Cause he ends up being going blind. Um, and so, and they ended up taking him to San Francisco for a screening of the video in a cinema thing. But, um, the, his mate was talking about the complexities of Jack because in one way he wants to an audience and to be seen and to be doing stuff, but then also wanted to be a complete hermit, which I can very much relate to.
Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:20] Do you want your cake and you want it? What is it? What's the saying?
Josh Janssen: [00:31:25] You want your cake and eat it too, to eat it too? Which doesn't seem like too
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:28] much to ask. I know I just want a piece of cake and I fucking hate it. I ordered the cake. I paid eight bucks and I'm going to fucking eat it.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:36] Yeah. It doesn't make much sense really.
When you look at it, because it's like, why else are you getting the cake? Because you want to eat it? Yeah. Have you watched any tacos or anything?
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:45] Um, no. Got no time. What have you been thinking? Right. I was at the gym on Saturday. Squatting shit yourself. Completely tore the ass out of my shorts.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:58] Huh? Better than tearing your ass
Tommy Jackett: [00:32:00] out better than telling Terry mass.
But I tall from the top. Was it your purple? My shorts? No, there's a book. I don't have those anymore. What happened to all the dark purple ones? I had liked the light purple gone. They gone top. So from the top of my, like the hip all the way down to my leg, luckily I had black bonds undies on and I tore it on the first set of as you laugh.
Yeah. Cause if I lie, but it scared me cause it was like, Like it popped as well. Cause it was like the same. And then just like, did you think now I've told them before, but it's annoying because if you don't have the right underwear on or if you're wearing a g-string you're in trouble, dude. And so I was wearing black and there was one guy behind me in the whole gym.
It was just me and him. And I said, dude, Tell him my pants he's up? Nah, it's all right. I was like, yeah, but he's not push on. And I, yeah, so I stayed there, just squatting with my basically mandates. It was the weirdest feeling so weird, but I pushed the important new ones. Nah,
Josh Janssen: [00:33:02] not piss a long weekend. What did you, I saw you sent me a video of Oh yeah.
Video of Bodhi using the remote control power in the
Tommy Jackett: [00:33:09] water. It was just one of my favorite things to do is to walk through the Fitzroy gardens. It's beautiful. Isn't it? It's where, um, captain Cook's cottages that's been canceled. Yes. It says closed on the front of it. They made me canceled canceled. There was a security guard there for Australia day.
Cause they like the people, you know, the sure Progressive's are going to come and fucking bash it in. Anyway. Um, little fun fact on that, that cottage. I always thought that like that was built there and captain cook lived in that there. No, they brought the whole thing over from England and his parents that was his parents' house.
And he may have stayed at his parents' house. That's what they allude to. And then they were all tied, instructed at a tiny village, tiny village, but it's just the trees. I don't give a shit about their cottage or any of that. It's just like the, the, on the, something on the fringe of the S like a CBD. So it's like the concrete jungle meeting, this beautiful.
You know, grassy tree, you know, tree lined park, it's fucking magic. And so we just walked through that and Bodie scooters. It's just beautiful. It's something worth doing. If you're in Melbourne, just walk through the FitzWay guidance.
Josh Janssen: [00:34:19] It is probably my favorite park in Melbourne it's AIDS, other than the
Tommy Jackett: [00:34:24] botanical gardens.
But then it's like,
Josh Janssen: [00:34:27] even, I feel like Fitzroy is like Fitzroy guns sort of smell, but yeah, it's, it's more, um, it's easier to get to do it. It's more accessible than anything. Like I walk there every, like when I would walk into the city, I would go through the Fitzroy gardens
Tommy Jackett: [00:34:42] every day. Yeah. So, I mean, it was a lot of that had a beautiful fire Saturday night.
When you think fires in the backyard with pizzas.
Josh Janssen: [00:34:51] Eating pizza or cooking pizza, cooking the pizza.
Tommy Jackett: [00:34:54] Let's go. We did, I've done one with ordering plays at this one was cooking pizza. How'd you do it just in the oven, but it's also, you don't use the five. Nah, no, that's too hard, too hard, but um, so it was yeah.
Nice weekend. Beautiful, nice weekend. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:35:09] All right. Well, uh, it's the daily torture height, the daily torture.com. I'm wanting documentary recommendations. The positive ones or just now, just in general, just, just a good, just a good docos, obviously the, yeah. To your point, crime murders, pedophilia, all of that sort of stuff.
It's not the best way of
Tommy Jackett: [00:35:32] cause then it might connect of documentary. You want to, so
Josh Janssen: [00:35:38] things that play in to nostalgia. So there's a, there's a documentary. I think it's called American filmmaker, a guy who it's a documentary about him trying to make an indie film and he's completely crazy. That's great. Um, so maybe I like ones that I can relate to.
Yeah. Just the people that are nuts. Yeah. That like, That, um, that's why you like Bikram so much. I actually liked, but it wasn't
Tommy Jackett: [00:36:04] a fucking good. Yeah. It was a good DACA, even though it was, yeah, it was still like
Josh Janssen: [00:36:09] in
Tommy Jackett: [00:36:09] sexual assault. There's someone who's still smiling. It's Mr. Big room. Yeah. The fucking strategy that what's he up to.
I don't know jail is he, that's a weird thing about a lot of these. People it's like, how do they not end up in jail? Jail is living in a world where you've been canceled. Some people rightfully so. And what are you doing? Yeah, I ended up
Josh Janssen: [00:36:35] on a fucking on an article describing Ivan Milat it's dead body.
Genitalia underwhelming. They said, genitalia underwhelming.
Tommy Jackett: [00:36:46] My genitalia will be underwhelming when I've, when I've shot myself. Cause I'm dead.
Josh Janssen: [00:36:53] You don't need to defend him a lot. He's a bit of a piece of work, but, um, but yeah, it's interesting. I guess that's like what I thought was like, Oh, this is, um, an interesting part of society where it's like let's, um, We need to de-humanize or, or like it let's on the way out.
We need to make sure that they're, um, uh, cast and a real, like, you know, just like trolling. I thought it was interesting, like Dick Ivan Milat it had that vibe. And I was like, Oh, it's interesting. Like, this guy is fucked up. Like all of this stuff, but I thought it was interesting. The psychology of like, clearly that was like way going to ride in a hot coal going through.
But describing someone's dead body. I thought it was just an interesting piece. Like it, it was almost something a bit medieval about it, you know, like putting someone up in the street so everyone can, can look at them. So I wonder like it, my question, like I wonder is like, who's it for? What's it for? Like what, like, it was for
Tommy Jackett: [00:37:54] Josh Jetson to bring content of the day,
Josh Janssen: [00:37:56] or like maybe it's the families of the victims.
Like do they just that
Tommy Jackett: [00:38:02] journalists writing these, that's why it's like, thinking about all the hit pieces on people that haven't done anything it's like this who's that for it's for clicks. I want to read an article about how it bottom line was. Appendic cause you get a bit angry and you're like, that's fucking great.
He was, yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:38:20] Alrighty. Today, another talk show. I enjoyed that guys. See you guys.