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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 497 so I can banter and we've got special

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guests will Connelly in the

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studio. Awesome. Hey, thanks for having me guys. I KIX boy

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No, it's a good man he's a gramme.

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He's worthless

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as soon as it comes out

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of someone's mouth mixed up aching PayPal.

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And my thanks for coming on the show. jewels land who's done a lot for me my life connected you and I via email a little while ago. What's your take on Jules lon by the way

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or my he's been an awesome role model. He's got a base put me under his wing. last few months he's he took me up to buy into the space convention. Where you know, I learned probably was one of the best experiences of my life. I learned so much being around all these people. It almost probably gave me faith. The future didn't have. But now he's um he's done everything in life. You know, he's done like the fulfilling, talking, helping out. People like charity work with a translation as a cigar and get away and just done crazy stuff like skydiving and with a limo with chicks. Chicks waiting for him at the bottom. Yeah, he's done. He's done everything in life. And now he started up his own business. So like, Yeah, he's got all life experience as well. And he's, I can call him anytime of the day and ask for advice.

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He's actually banned me from Cali. And Will's got the valley. He's got that fan. I'm so thankful

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for him. Yeah, it's interesting. You talk about losing faith or not having that. Why do you think that was?

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Well, I think our generation is pretty frustrated. Even though it is the best time to be alive, which know a lot of people realise they are real frustrated. Yeah. And I don't know I just didn't start. I'm around a pretty loud school with a bunch of kids who, you know, they go through puberty the teenagers are pushing up against each other and there's like that will get bigger and bigger our bros brought out of that with all those people and I realised like they all had the one thing in common and his wife is like all about helping people and you know showing empathy and and that that vibe that they all brought off rubbed off on me and man, I just went to bed on the last night and I was like, I'm so excited for the future. And I it was it was amazing. So that was

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like a conference I saw Jules he posting stuff about and, you know, a couple of days in Byron Bay with some amazing thought leaders. And you actually spoke there, didn't you?

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I did you hear? It was meant to be just a chat around the campfire in front of 30 people and not wouldn't have been 30 people that's probably maybe not more or less probably probably like 10 again, product 10 paper and a campfire on the first night but it all started peace and down. The electricity went out and like we need they needed someone to like, kill some time and they're like jewels will get up and in the front 300 bloody papers Talking and it's crazy. I didn't like I told my storey and I didn't like a quite a few Alex came up to me and told me like it was really inspiring and I just wasn't expecting that. What did you think of Byron Bay? Oh, what do you really get to say it? Yeah, but um, let me know after school is because I'm going

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How long are you gonna spend that they're awake? Nice. Yeah.

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Now silly because I've never I never went to school and I know that I never even ever finish school. That's why

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the kids that didn't finish school that somehow infiltrated school, please.

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We honour them and

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it was meant to graduate no five.

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going strong.

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So just going back. What would have been eight months ago?

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Yeah. 16th of March. So

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16th of March. was when the egg fries are ending. But before that was very much more. It was normal life. Yeah. Yeah. And tell us a little bit about the laid out to when it happened and your storey?

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Yeah. So so it was it was a day before I was at the climate change rally with dimer and mock where he's coming

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he's off his pace.

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You know, you're spot on.

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Yes, we like passionate and proud. And then on the way home, we saw the video of the shooting in the car. And yeah, it was like emotionless You know, this guy's just shooting people. It was like a video game. And he didn't seem to show any emotion. What

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was the New Zealand shooting? It wasn't

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Yeah, crushing in the mosque and I'm Two hours later. I read the status. So it's real raw traveller assignment. You know, although the victims there they were not blameless. Something along those, I says subliminally blaming the victims for being there. And I was and then Dima picked me up. And he's Commodore and we were about to go get dominoes and I was like Junior Junior come a game and I just seemed like the right thing to do. And so he didn't want to ask for your mouth mates they didn't I did that but yeah

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he guarded dominoes before you went on not not

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I did that night but not not

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still not the dominoes it

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Oh, yeah. Godfather Do you get what what pizza do you get? I get a $5 pepperoni. I mean, that's one of the great things about I remember dominoes going to endeavour hills in the sort of early 2000s at the $5 price ranges. So you didn't have any eggs I'm guessing.

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I didn't know that stage. Got on the next morning. I'm

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ended up getting too much. Who wanted to come and listen to him with me but they didn't want to do anything. So I rode my bike down and Robin station and which was like 10 minutes away from my home and they were running late so I was I was feeling was pissed off. So I just rode my bike I went to all these rare mobike they went by myself and I listened to him for an hour because I wanted him to change my mind and I started to feel bad and sorry for him talking cuz I thought he was just like a twisted old man. Did you have a

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good inside? Yeah What did you actually like paint the picture was it your idea your bike

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you've got it what it was my brother's bike because mine was at a mate and it was it was just a plastic bag hanging off

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with a full really doesn't

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yeah 666 Yeah. And and and then I put the eggs in my pocket and I've had like five in my pocket in case they broke and I listen to him and yeah, I started feel bad storeys twisted. I saw a three year old there some parents are on like you can't like what is this? desperate, just spacious And they started saying more racist things like other too many Muslims in Parliament, the Sudanese didn't go back to where they came from. And then that stage I decided, well, I'm just going to egg him. And I started visualising, like, do I throw it out? And do I go up behind him? and whatnot. And then I just say, I just had an opportunity. I walked up. Yeah. And before you said, actually, ago, you said

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you how do you how do you find out someone like fries writing is speaking in my rabbit? That's why I was like, why is he doing that? A very convenient to the positive forgot. Yeah.

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So I share after reading the statement, I shared it on Facebook and I said would like to be face to face with this Muppet. And it was a figure of speech because I saw it is from Queensland. And so I want to I know put it in the comment section. He's going to be in Robin tomorrow around brought and yeah, I thought held to it. Yeah,

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it's Yeah. I mean, what are the chances of that? There is just all of a sudden 10 minutes down the road from you?

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Yeah. Yeah. It's great. stars aligned I guess if I can

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and so at that point I we then say I think everyone sees all these clips go out and social media what I appreciated is the stern hand on your iPhone that did not bad when he slapped him in the face and as a man that would have knocked my head my hand I would have fallen to the floor yeah

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I don't I don't know it was just all the adrenaline all the adrenaline I'm, I've been tackled to the ground of the place have taken me you know, and I've there are they wanted to take me home enough. I've asked them to just drive me to get lunch with my mates woman to come with me.

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Now, it was like a dumpling house. I can't remember the name of the shop. I can't really plug him but

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yeah, and and because I thought I was going to get charged for my life as I wrote shaking. And so yeah, so was at one egg that you said you had five And so you take one out of the pocket had any of them crushed? Yeah, two of them out. Yeah. So you've got ageing in your pockets. Yeah, I got it. So you found one that was was all good. Did you use your strong hand? Uh,

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yeah, yeah, right now.

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I mean, I do one thing like last night I was at the supermarket and I ate some chocolate macadamia is without paying from the nut sections and very naughty. I ended up buying $6 worth because try before you buy, that's what I thought the policy was. But I was so convinced everybody at that place was looking at me.

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Like, of course, which is a good filter for why you shouldn't do it. But

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when you're actually there to do something you're not meant to. Like paranoid Yeah, what's your what's your hot rod

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is is crazy job. just crazy. sweating profusely

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Did someone look at you and just be like, you're the kid.

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Because paperwork he was saying stuff. Everyone was clapping and I was like pretending to clap. Wanting to make sense some people like looked at man oh shit on a found out

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there on to me Yeah, and it wasn't even the egg dripping

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at that point and so when it happens any throw a few punches what it what were you expecting what was the visualisation? What do you think was gonna happen?

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Oh so such such a stupid visualisation I was expecting just walk out

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and say yeah, I guess like the first lap was warranted like, I'll give him that, you know, he's like, fight flight response instinct turn around saying something smaller than him, you know, fights like me, but then he looked at me. Yeah, and whatever was next is only acceptable. I reckon I would. If it was me, I definitely would have I wouldn't have acted like that.

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And so you said that the the police tackled you today or your attack was you and then the police. Police came? What was the what was that experience like and speaking to them,

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you know, through the whole process with a place where really, really supportive that will awesome I honestly don't really remember the whole episode probably have like a false third person memory of it because it was so much like adrenaline through it that my memory

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and you're watching the videos of yourself.

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It's like the video that I have the better memory of Yeah, I just remember lying there just like knowing to stay calm because the place was it coming.

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Because those guns had you in head locks and stuff I was Yeah, I was thinking hope you can brave at that point that I was whispering under my breath. I tell them

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yeah. God forbid have a smartphone. We don't

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have to do this.

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It's so interesting. And so did you. Did you get a sense the day before? That you were about to do something that was going to get so much attention? No.

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But it was meant to be like a personal thing for me to hit. I was trying to get him before he walked in. But I got the light. I did. Yeah. And those plays outside and there was a big protest people yelling and screaming. Yeah, so I know I know it the video I was meant to just send it to like a group of five of my mates yeah

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yeah and so when did the window hit you the gravity of the situation so

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probably when I woke up the next morning but when I was out for lunch and I went to lunch from my friend she was scrolling through Facebook and saw a video that we're reading within like 20 minutes

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and so what happened was Tommy has been involved in is it being a kid and police night so I think I've never we handcuffed and shit what actually no I wasn't like yeah

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and so was it it would that experience do you actually like go to the police station and have to like sign it like so I went and got I went to like roll up misstatement like a few days after. So no, it was that literally just drove me to lunch.

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didn't have to worry about Dynamo.

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Dynamo pick me up and drop drop me home.

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Solid diamond.

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Diamond called mom and was like every say What happened? moms like not yeah sure scrape and drop through the roof

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yeah and so how long was that after that mom worked out what had happened

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well I like it like 45 minutes because I caught it before asking transfer me some money cuz I wanted to go out that night so I thought I could get the money so I could might be able to go out after but it didn't turn out like that it was no

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understand what I think Josh use like gauging the scale of influx that you would have received after that so it's like 40 minutes after mom finds out you know the next day your friend sees on Facebook and then it snowballs right for you.

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Yeah, I remember getting home again like my roommates like wait make your account public so you can get more followers on my ass pretty handy. I did. Notice was late

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strategist on Instagram. He is Yeah.

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Diamond, Orlando. following us tonight

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and yeah, sorry again like $200 pretty handy. And then I went to bed I was like 40,000 and someone someone like screenshots like holy shit will your Insta famous now and I went to bed and woke up and it was 660,000 miles.

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Cool. And like what I had to tell me and I were talking the other day about, we've never really been socially like we haven't been part of big conversations with going out and protesting feels like younger people are doing that more they're going out on the streets before this, were you sort of more socially conscious and thinking about these things?

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Yeah, well yeah, I def I had my opinions. Yeah,

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definitely. And is that something that like within your peer group like I remember of school days, like everyone had sort of the you know, you had two different areas within school in yachts alike so yeah, how's the theatre? You know,

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at Knotts type of thing so I don't not at my school we are all together. That's cool. It's really good it's really different all the schools.

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Yeah. And so what was the what was the reaction within your you

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level? Oh, that was just patting me on the back telling me good job but um I really like respect to the my level in the LX when I went to school the next day like they still try to be normal and they weren't like, Harry main stuff I kind of like yeah, so that was was amazing. I remember a cool sorry is that when I we always keep on jacking the packet lunch? The max off.

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I see Yeah, I'm surprised I'm banned shoulder

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and the whole fucking school is like in a circle. And I was looking around and I was

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like yeah,

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and so the sword obviously go around what it tasted like who comes out that surprised you from a support interview the people that you didn't necessarily think that you'd get that support from well

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just everyone yeah everyone like every single one of the followers yeah but take a coordinated like walk past and it gave me a salute all the teachers were all told not to talk about it but the principal should be another those me back pretty cool

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yeah like that conversation that conversation where the principles telling the teachers don't talk about it easily it was there a bit of the PR panic where it's like all of a sudden you've had this thing happen did you start thinking I could my head would go into a place of what have I posted online before what do I need to put up I put out my address anywhere

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Yeah. So I had to go and try and clear all my social media and I was terrified because my birthday just happened. My birthday just happened. Yeah and and I was like scared of what my friends because of post because you know on the birthday post everyone's tries to stitch you up.

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Remember those days? Doesn't happen, right when you get to 30 Plus it won't happen. Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it's a it's such a fascinating thing because Is there a sense that did you have any insight at all that you felt like I've done the wrong thing you might be getting positive affirmation from people. But then you go Okay, I'm getting that side but I'm also getting just this this you know, you seeing the news articles like was there a sense that you just you felt that inside or

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only in the first day okay, so when when I told that like, I was going to get charged and stuff like that, cuz I don't Yeah, what it stood for. Yeah. And plus so much more positive things came out of it.

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Also the the, from what I read the court, the court cost of the legal fees, someone set up a GoFundMe page or a fund me page for you. And then fast forward. It had raised nearly $100,000. Tell us about. Tell us about that.

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Oh, sir. I remember saying it first. And I was like 300 bucks. And I thought that was amazing. But edge kept going. I could not believe it. couldn't believe it. Yeah, I decided to donate it because I didn't feel like it was my money. Like, I would have felt unjust if I kept over. I mean, in hindsight, it would have been nice to have kept a little bit of it but

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Scolese budget

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Yeah, yeah. Get the boys a nice house. Good night. Tommy. It hasn't worked at that stage with I've never known that. I've never set up a GoFundMe or any of those other donation things. How do those sites work when there's all this money coming in? And did you set it up? So you didn't set it? That's the

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who sets it up. And how do you work out Who said that?

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Yeah, he contacted us.

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So pretty lucky because he could he could have just kept the money himself. It was a good book.

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Who was he like? What's he got to do with it? Like he just liked what I did and set it up?

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Yeah. Well, it was a good idea, obviously was

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interesting. I mean, so he's saying something happened. He's okay, I'm going to start this. But then it starts getting lots and lots of cash and you obviously don't get charged. And you don't need to spend a whole heap of money on legal fees, and you end up giving it away. What's the conversation when it gets to 90 plus thousand dollars? And you're like, I want to do this with it. How do you want that conversation with him?

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mate? He's just like, he just want to give me all the money. Yeah.

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It's amazing. And so I mean, what did you What have you learned? You know, hindsight, looking back, what it's obviously changed your life and some amazing opportunities since what stands out as the biggest lessons

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I got I've learned so much at some

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Probably, well looking back at hindsight of the rest of my life that is, um

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Well, I've learned that everyone who has like a big stigma around them is just like a normal human like me. Right? And you, you guys, right? So I've learned that I've learned that what

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does that what does that mean?

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So like your however so like if you see an

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NFL player right at the pub, people won't treat them as like a normal person. They'll trade them you know what I mean? Like when you're watching footy players, you weren't necessarily think like they're real person? One that that's obviously not the most important thing of? Well, it's really interesting. So you gained an empathy for hundred percent for the people who are in the public eye, because they will say I guess that one dimensional thing they see, you know, a boy they see almost the character that you played in a moment but it doesn't necessarily show them

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who you are, which really screwed with me in the head which would like to talk about light of it. I learned Probably like the key to life is literally just helping people and doing things for other people. Like life is never as pure as we hoped and people have had that I've had like a bit of fame have partied have played like high level baseball, like travelled to America for

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and have you ever play softball? That's right not softball table. Yeah when I was really young Yeah, I played table tennis right now you can play up until probably I was 12 but never made it class. Yeah, it

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was just good to be a bit of baseball banter. Yeah, I enjoy and sorry. So you actually do say you travelled for Yeah, I travelled I travelled into state ended up my team went to America week finish second World man crazy. Yeah, no. That was back in United where I picked when I was talking about for

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the nine debate fake

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Yeah, sorry. Honestly, like life's never as pure as when you do when people doing things for other people.

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I also

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add a third thing, but I forgot, but that's definitely the most important thing that I've learned.

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So helping people before this, what was your well before that,

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before this, I wanted to be a counsellor.

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But then

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I got this massive platform, I thought I could help people on a bigger scale make much more of an impact. And someone said to me in that space at space environment, where Jules took me up, and said, may I know you want to be a counsellor? Don't do it. I'm like, why is that? Well, you can't make a personal connection with that person because you have a client. And you have this wall up, and you can't connect with you can't go get a coffee with them after. And I was like, wow, that really struck a chord with me. So yeah. And so that having wanted to play baseball ninja Council,

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yeah, I mean, yeah, by baseball Getting into a sport that's not massive in Australia. What's the thought there? Or

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so when we were in America though these kids coming up, and girls coming on wanting us to like sign their bow?

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Well, I knew you were.

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I knew that you're an Australian thing. Yeah,

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yeah. Yeah, that all. All the locals were aware and they loved us. So we're in the amateurs, the only team that sold out and we come back to Australia. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. And so what were

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you were your pitch? What was your

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was a pitcher catcher. So Monday's and my back is screwed. I like I got scoliosis spinal left versus I think it's called and Sherman's disease in my back, and that's okay. So,

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yeah, sports people can just get lucky and have a career without injuries. Yeah, you mentioned that. It rattled you. That's a realisation, early stages after this happened. Explore that

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with us or I was pretty much tearing myself. On the inside, because there was a big boy, which I couldn't, which everywhere I went was a boy a boy. And they saw me for my courage. And I guess my stupidity not realising was a press release. And someone who stands up for what they believe in, which is all good, right? But I felt like there was way more depth to me than that. And I wanted to be known as more than that, and I just couldn't I didn't know what to do. I didn't know how. And it really like messed with my head for a few months. Yeah.

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And how does that personally reveal itself? How do you identify that it's how you acting as a result of feelings? Why what so just become more

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isolated in myself. Yeah, I felt like the least loneliest person and but the most lonely person, same time because everyone's coming up to you wherever you go. But yeah, you saw me I feel lonely. Yeah. So that gain that understanding for how the high profile people feel.

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It was there a point where you will pushing back on. I don't want to be connected with this anymore. I don't want that to be the legacy or the thing I'm known for.

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Well, as came to learn that I can slowly gradually, like, shifted into which direction I want to put it in. There was times where I was like, I wish they could go away, but I also wouldn't ever have changed it ever. Because it brought happiness people, you know, people laugh and I saw the video helped out the victims might help the other victim so yeah.

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I could imagine something like this. There's also along with the positive affirmation, you're getting some negativity, that can be scary. Is there anything that happened that sort of rattled you in terms of your personal safety or

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Yeah, some bows I rang the school and said that there were like 10 people out to get me outside of the school or outside of my house in the next three days. That probably scared my more than it scared me off. We're getting ready for about an hour and I realised probably not gonna happen. What does the school do in that situation? Well, we had police circling the school in my house.

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I left school early and late for a couple days.

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To be honest

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I wish I could have pulled a sickie for the last six months Yeah, but uh so how do you stay? Stay?

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Yes, I had How do you get through it and actually stay in school with it? How did you not have that as an option? Which like as in you know, like, I think that it would be fair to say I don't want to have to do this anymore. I don't want to do this whole school thing Yeah. Yeah. You know, how did you come to the conclusion of like, no, I need to stay I need to be going even in these are like I took it

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day by day. I felt when I was messing with everything was messing with my head school is the only place I felt normal because everyone trading me this accent. So that was a massive part. in it I wanted to drop out I definitely did cuz I wanted to focus on this and like strike while the iron is hot which isn't necessarily which you know if you do anything rush I think it's bad for you because you know you make the wrong decision and when so I decided I wanted to drop out yeah and then I'm about to take action on it and some interesting feel right in my stomach. So I didn't know

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what was the friction point before you got to that point what sort of conversations we having with mom and with the teachers about it well quite frankly, I didn't think I learned any any life skills at school know when someone to like

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you seven Yeah, yeah. And then the rest is just learning mark so I'm thinking this is this is useless.

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Like why am I here? Which I think is a common thing. Like that's interesting thing. So it's like, I found the Final Four months or whatever school crazy hard because like David wanted Do the exams, all that sort of thing, but then have something like this. That's such a big thing that would even sort of destabilise even more.

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Yeah. Well,

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thing is if I would have dropped out, like, what would have I substituted that six hours a day. I didn't have a career.

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I didn't know what I want to do necessarily. Yeah,

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yeah, it could have cause more problems. I mean, I think my reflection you're about to head into exams. My reflection on school I didn't, I didn't finish I left in year 10 is that the things that are hard getting through it, like I'd encourage any kid to stay and stay in complete school, because it's about the completion of something in life, being able to stick at it whether it's 40 or not able to make

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it hundred percent oxygen graduated enough. I'm glad I said

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you had good to get to

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is the self esteem to just having completed it with it like I remember that being like the arguments I would have with my mom was just she's like, I didn't care how young the exams, but you're doing the exam? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's interesting just the idea of just getting through and completing it. And knowing that experience volumes

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about it like it's like having a job to really bad the job, especially when you're growing up. Have you ever you weren't had much experience in the workforce yet?

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No. I worked at a fish and chip shop for two shifts. Did Yeah. And then egg boy happened? I really ceased. You started.

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Surely you could have done like a special burger with two eggs.

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I called the boss up that normally. I can't come into work tomorrow. The media was outside my house. They will follow me to work and he's like, he didn't speak good English. I don't understand. And I was like, I just can't cover that. I don't understand. I'm like, do you have Facebook? He's like, no. And I'm like my car.

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Just text in the cliff.

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Did you have you been to the fish and chip shop since? No, I haven't really not all surely Okay, so you've walked past Yeah, do you know did the boss then make sure that you eventually connect the dots? He's like okay,

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well yeah all make sense? Sure he did. Yeah.

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I could imagine when something like this happens you start looking to other people that have gone through the same thing as you had conversations with people who've experienced specific

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though, isn't it? Yeah. Better different version very much different.

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I mean, you can get you could speak to

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being put into Limelight being turned into a meme

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into a Did you have you spoken to other people in the same? No,

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actually haven't? I certainly.

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couldn't think of any anyone else like, I guess you have Corey Worthington. That's pretty different. Like this is so. So, um, what's the word I'm looking for? It's just really nothing else like it. I someone said to me, it's your Instagram following his only blood up in today's like, twice, like you Yes Oh really? Yeah.

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Well yeah you think about Tommy and I were talking about this even reality shows in the time that it happened. People don't get huge followings nowadays. You know that quickly Gary Vee

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says Instagram What is it right? She's dead. Yeah, what are you

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doing Tick Tock. I'm a half tonne of a few.

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Yeah, I'm hammer just funny ones the

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how much sort of exploration of what you want to do now. Has it been? You know and what you can do with you

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speak to the careers council?

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No, it's a bit beyond rattled.

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Still waiting for me to come in.

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Well, obviously I could elect them politely sell myself out and like go got like an egg pot and It can Easter was like two months later so I could like ready to deal with Cadbury but I could see myself running down and it's like oh what's that in my pocket? That's a heroin addiction shit it's not fulfilling you know

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yeah yeah

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yeah that's a quick one yeah.

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I was wanting to go through like a filling path I think I want to do public speaking and at the moment I want to teach life life skills that isn't taught in school you teach shit that's school should

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What do you think those skills are?

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How to have a deeper connection with other people how to have a deeper connection with yourself. Stuff like that. Um,

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we're talking about these things with like your mates day mo and stuff that you in the car having these deep conversation? Yeah, yeah,

32:43
yeah. And I point out your Domino's Pizza

32:46
lot we have like mad deep conversations ma tonight. Like will occasionally will like always say one thing you dislike about each other. And one thing you I can go on in the circle. Stuff like that.

32:57
Yes. I wonder if I mean I think I had a pretty big connection with my mates at that time, but I was definitely the unusual ones talking about feely and talking about all this stuff like self development.

33:08
This is not because I always wanted this because I feel like I had the same experience when I was younger. Is this a rite of passage that we all have that we all end up reading like Santa Clara and philosophy books and sort of having those moments? I guess, to that point, it makes sense that there should there needs to be some if you could wrap it around in some form of, you know, education or part of the system that could be helpful.

33:34
Well, I think school the school system is forced learning so you come and they tell you what you're going to learn that day.

33:40
And it just breeds ego because everyone's got their own individual mark. So we need to teach more collaboration as well. Just let kids like be kids and explore and like bang their elbow on the tray and learn your like simple stuff like that. Because Yeah, everyone's climbing on top of each other. There's a big ego. I've watched my friends deteriorate. I didn't real good instinct, Instagram posts. On a battle my opinions on it, remove the score, and teach people how to find their like passion and find their desire as well. That's like probably most important thing. I did great that Finland, it was great. I read that.

34:13
I mean, and I read that it's coming from a 17 year old kid and I was not thinking those things that 17 and

34:19
were part of the problem because we call Mr. 97 because he got an A task or whatever definitely Yeah, I got in my 40s will thing is just so like schools like

34:32
the product of school systems, the marks here with the private schools and and the consumers, the adults so if you don't buy the product to them, it'll break so

34:41
yeah, that's what we've got to do. So what sort of content What are you consuming every day? What do you like watching and listening to?

34:50
names on Instagram and Facebook? I go my friend that much. I like Cohen Ray. I follow him on Instagram. He's absolutely based. What do you like? about him because he's a very business focused, say sales of marketing, just like his quotes that he posts and his way of life and thinking yeah, like how, like the gratitude and how be grateful for all the things that have happened for you like just things don't happen to you they happen for you so you can all learn from it and a good way positive way of looking at life.

35:24
And so you're doing a gap here next year? Is that a plan or what was the plan?

35:29
So like to organise camp America so I can wait go their way for my friends to get money to travel. like to go to the longest day of the year party making us with Lee, Greg, Matt solid and I'd like to travel a third world country I still haven't fully decided just to get gain extra perspective.

35:49
Camp America, I looked into that got the applications. Is that what is that? what you're talking about? There you go and be teachers and I'll be great. It's Yeah, I started looking when I was a bit too old age.

36:10
So I go to go to camp America

36:14
so that it's super exciting and sorry, the friendships. How does how does this type of thing affect friendships?

36:23
Yeah, so so right now my friendships pretty solid, they're good, but I could say the people were treating me differently because I wanted to try it again and I hated it. So there's a bunch of girls that I'd been to parties with another metabolise them a few times didn't know that well, there's show me Yeah, not economic it talked him few chats often have been one Solomon village Belle, insecure, and you know that all yeah, it's good, good joint, no, all like all over me straight away, and I It's great. Like I didn't like it. Yeah, obviously I liked it, but I didn't like looking back, you know, you like shit. I don't really like me for me they like me for my status. I guess that's how I felt. Yeah.

37:12
I mean, that's such a

37:13
self aware thing, Tommy

37:19
to do with the eggs, and that's why you didn't do it.

37:21
But that's why that kind of stuff doesn't happen to people. Yeah, like my, I don't think you can sometimes look at people in Hollywood and the same happens to the wrong person

37:30
with heroin things interesting, right? Like that's a super aware thing to connect those dots of, if I do a deal with a chocolate company if I if I go for the instant gratification, all of this sort of stuff that it's going to get to there. Yeah. Who scared that like who who created that storey for you? Well, I've

37:57
I just you just say it everywhere. Yeah.

38:00
Yeah, I can just say it from paper. I recently read a scar tissue. I actually Anthony Curtis smoke very good book. Yeah. And yeah.

38:11
Unbelievable sort of upbringing in. He's at the crazy end of life.

38:16
Yeah. But he's also come full circle which is good. But now Sometimes I wish I could just have more fucking fun and not worry about these things and so why I still do. Why do you feel like you can have that fun? I know I simple. So specifically with girls like a lot of the time I'll just obey. I'll think like, oh, that I just like me from my status. Yeah.

38:43
What's another consideration that you have to make based on reality? Yeah, but how else is will have fun. Okay, is it How else can you bring more fun into your life?

38:53
I still have a whole lot of fun with my mates. I'm so

38:56
and so do you think it's harder now to make New friends?

39:03
Well, yes and no, because people always give their best version of themselves to me, which is the best, right? So if there's like a smart kid is going to be because I set for example, like a smart is not going to act super smart to other people, but elect super smart to me. And I can pick that and I can be like, Your Honour be fucking best friends with you. Because you're gonna, you're gonna lift me up, you know what I mean? So it's both.

39:27
Yeah. And so having a having an audience. It's a very specific audience that have come from one specific thing. How have you reconciled? What you've done, the audience that you've gained from it, and then this type of content you want to do now?

39:43
Well, so yeah, that's tough because my cuz like, yeah, I have a big sense of justice, right. It's like through my pass of there's been a lot of incidents where it's sure it's like, represented that, but it's all it's not what I'm like, fully passionate about. And I need to find what I'm fully passionate about. And as I said, I can say definitely see myself doing public speaking, and to make money to travel. But after travelling, I could still see myself doing public speaking after that.

40:15
Did you feel the pressure to push the Justice thing up?

40:23
Yeah, but I just need just I just said like,

40:26
Oh, my God, my day.

40:28
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's super self aware. Because I feel like in that moment, you'd be like, our people are positioning me as this guy who's done this thing. You know, I can I can even push that even further and they'll love it even more. But being able to listen to yourself, I think is super powerful.

40:46
Yeah. Rapid learning.

40:49
I've learned like a lifetime's worth eight months.

40:52
Do you feel the pressure to work this out quickly. If you

40:58
from other from other things. People they try and pressure me all the time my friends like my T shirt line do it like

41:10
I got a screen printing

41:14
oh god no

41:18
no not yet no.

41:21
Diamond barn car for 500 bucks driving it up to the farms and shredding it really drifting. It

41:29
is a smart man he is he is

41:30
now we love that he's gonna be our business advisor from now on

41:35
T shirts

41:36
yeah so so everyone's like my T shirts made Instagram do made this that that that that unlike and Tom will take a score so yeah, if I like give the truth out for my truth out to everyone else. I'm going to get everyone else's truth all the truth that I won back

41:53
to people just love giving advice. Yeah, yeah.

41:59
But always Know that?

42:01
Have you worked out a mechanism to work out and good advice versus bad advice?

42:07
If whatever it feels like, inside of me, the first right or wrong?

42:12
How many how many conversations outside of Dynamo has been relating to money

42:17
a lot. I don't care about money. Like honestly, my goal in life is to be spiritually rich, not rich by gotta dominate.

42:27
It's a

42:28
spiritual awakening.

42:32
Massive one, Don the CEO. He's like the strain say I very interesting. I've stopped following because I was I ended up ordering their big New York style. Because he's so good at selling because they say he goes into the kitchen and says, This is our new creation and he talks it through and also think what's been a standout conversation that you've had with somebody that has come into your world to be super famous or Every panda like that.

43:05
Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'll ever think about it and

43:10
stand out Congress doing insist storey for us.

43:13
Yeah, thanks.

43:14
Um, yeah, I'll definitely, yeah, it'll come it'll come to me. I've got a question for you guys. Right. So if this is if this happened to you, what would you because you guys like creative as well would you guys do would probably the exact same thing?

43:29
Well I think like Josh said before, if it happened to me at your age, I think it would have been a nightmare for my parents, for me in my future. And I don't think I would have handled it then I think about that's why it doesn't happen to people like me, because I wouldn't have been equipped to handle it. If things like that happened now. I think there's a bunch of learnings Josh and I've made from not having it and being inquisitive to people like you who what's happened to so but then I actually truly don't

44:00
know what it seems like it'd be pretty shocking if I did it.

44:05
Like I think that that insight based on that. Yeah, I like the idea. Yeah, but the visual I What did you you talking about the visual visualisation of the, you know, doing the big thing. What was the visualisation afterwards? Like what were you visualising like life after this? What do you visualise when you're 19?

44:26
Yeah, well, honestly, I just wanted to go and party. That's what I want to start. So where does that change come? change? Well, it was just that night. I just wanted to go out straightaway. There's a formula after party on and I was imagining myself, and

44:41
I couldn't and so you suck, but you've definitely had you've had a change of heart or a different perspective. Yeah. And so for you, it's not all about the partying and things like that now. Yeah. Was that was that moment the catalyst for that? Or do you think that that's even over communicated in the media like I guess the media we say it like this in a hero's journey I've always wanted to party until I was certain until like my glory days were over and then I was one should not go down the glory days finishing the nine remember?

45:18
Slow the same

45:21
so no but I think what is the narrative so the narrative so that visualisation give us a year by year blow until you're 30 right now yeah.

45:31
I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I'd go travel. I'd like to go like every country you come back one thing I would love to do is to is to go to the Amazon and trip iOS go. Oh, yeah, I would like to do that.

45:48
moms like we

45:49
Amanda Absolutely. Nada. My mom said the same when I said that. She said Don't you dare do that.

45:58
gain wisdom and teach it

46:01
The rule so that's like the difference between that and partying. Bit of a difference there. So do you see? Do you see this time where it's like, Okay, I'm partying and then that's slowly going to fade out. Yeah,

46:14
yeah. It's gonna fade out. what's the what's the probably like mom and pop it extremely hard like once twice a year. This guy real hard news is

46:23
She's shaking her head saying no, that does not happen. I don't know who he's talking about.

46:27
What do you like about the What do you like about party because I only started drinking. I'm 29 and we started really drinking this year. Right later adopter. What is it about partying that you enjoy? Oh, it's just good fun, good vibes. I love music as well. Although, I don't really like your music. I like old music. But, like 70s What do you like the 70s I listen to gold FM is that Yeah, smooth. You like smooth? Sometimes Sometimes.

46:54
I mean, the party thing is just there's a fun vibe. Yeah, I mean, most people are out to have fun. I think that's That's where Yeah, I got caught up in that for sure. Just it's a patterning thing and so every weekend

47:04
are you going for 70s music?

47:08
No wear headphones. Yeah, but nah Yeah, that's just music. I like this to my spare time, but like dope musics also fun. I saw the SP actually the music.

47:20
Yeah. So hilltop hoods and a bunch of these bands offered you a

47:25
lifetime.

47:26
Yeah passes to come to their shows. Yeah, they did it. They have they live up to the deal.

47:34
Yeah, hilltop have I met the boys. It grew up in the moon backstage. Had a good chat to them, I'm sure. Legends. Yeah. I saw them at splendour. But I didn't go back. I just wanted to enjoy it because I was doing a lot of interviews. I just wanted to go on the Martian party. Yeah.

47:50
How many people see you? They don't know where they know you from but I know you say

47:55
that is the is the most awkward. Funny thing is like yeah, you can Tell that they're looking at you like three times. I just want to wave at them. Yes.

48:05
Yeah, you actually if you had interactions where you've had to say, if you ever added the words Yes, I'm a boy. Yeah. What what's

48:14
been the last some girls that come up to me and pretend they don't know who I am and I can tell that they're pretending they don't know who I am

48:22
they making fun right? What do we need experience? I think your your self awareness is commendable for someone who's just turned 18 absolutely and and I'm I can't wait to see you journey over the next I can't I can't wait to wherever it will go. Really awesome.

48:45
Including I was scared and you can be prepared to vomit and shit your pants

48:49
riding Yeah, I've done my research. You're ready for it just like a big. So also thing is paper. So it's like unearned wisdom, right? Which I agree with to an extent But I've got this massive platform I have like responsibility I guess. So it doesn't fucking matter. Yeah. What is your audience like? What instance storeys Have you ever done a poem to people like poem? Yeah I've done so the the education posts that I did that they're not hundreds and hundreds of responses I do a question up

49:18
Yeah, yeah, that's probably the biggest one since things kind of died down a little bit about fun stuff like on the part if you go out of your rules, like if you get if you're getting pissed, do not post on Instagram or

49:30
Yeah, I do some storeys, but yeah, I'll like ask my friends what they think. Yeah, sure, then bloody

49:41
How many times has died my request

49:44
for tag every

49:47
day meditation

49:49
every every day.

49:52
specific app. No, not just do the song. One was some. Yeah, I'm going to try to imagine that because one of my friends he meditates. He told me manage pretty good Intro

50:00
like, what's that? transcendent? No? No TND where you have a word it

50:07
was the one that you have to pay to do the course. Yeah,

50:11
yeah. which uses the phrase instead of repeating the mind.

50:15
Yeah, I've been doing that for like a year and a half changes everything. You just feel more energy less stressed. You can control your thoughts. Yeah, it's, it's real. humbling. It's awesome. And who encouraged you to do that? I so we still watch like a lot of like self, not not self. I just like learn on YouTube. Well stuff about life. And it should benefits in meditation. So I just press them and looked at the benefits would be pretty handy to have, um, I have a crack and then it worked. So wondering,

50:48
I wonder if there were ever be a movie made about a person who was raised and doesn't go to school, but just as everything on YouTube that'd be an interesting documentary tobacco. Yeah. For its It needs to create this just waiting that's maybe just young kid enjoy enjoy

51:04
that unpretentious and it's not like, you know, I had this experience with a Gerber it's literally like yeah, it was suggested videos. It was rocking it.

51:13
Yeah, he's done it.

51:14
Yeah. Yeah, but now now that enough school us like, like this morning, last three mornings I literally like rolled out of bed and just meditated instantly second of time and I can choose so good sometimes three times.

51:28
I wish I had that life. I wish I had that I do you guys do it. I meditate. Yeah,

51:33
yeah, I've done I've done it once in the past two weeks, and I bought the Sam Harris app. Okay,

51:39
so day one and 50. Yeah. On day one for 14 days.

51:43
I'm wondering whether to start back at one. Yes. How good is it?

51:49
Yeah, it's great. My mom's a meditation teacher yoga teacher. So she's been on the on the bandwagon for many, many years. I mean, it's such an old art. It's an old Teaching and meditation. It's been around for centuries. Lot of you know, hundreds and hundreds of years. And so it's just now it's very noisy. And there's a lot of people talking about, which I think there's on the positivity that comes from it. So,

52:14
things you have done fasting,

52:18
dopamine fasting, like

52:21
16 likes eating for Yeah. 16

52:25
Have you seen that, Dave? Did you watch it? I don't know why.

52:29
The benefits of Well, it depends. The thing is he lost this man Dave LO lost weight doing it, which he's not planning. He wasn't trying to lose weight. But it's just a there's meant to be all these benefits around blood sugar levels and things like that

52:44
metabolism.

52:46
Yeah. What do you eat for breakfast? I have two weeks with these like oats, yoghurt, and some blueberries and then I have a milkshake with economic.

52:56
Economic. What did I just say? On Monday we'll get

53:05
that's what I have. Right banana milk and yoghurt. Yeah. Having the so yeah, smashing a lot of calories but you doing the gym work, be able to do it.

53:16
Yep. I've had that milkshake for life since I was in primary school. Yeah. Yeah. milkshakes like it's a pretty

53:23
What do you think?

53:25
It's, I think it's just the word he's using milkshake. smoothie smoothie. Like that's a great bloody breakfast milkshake. milkshake as you get a bit older. judging you for having like yeah you're not putting Marlo in it or anything. So it's a smooth

53:44
there was what was it? What was in it? So what is it banana? Banana.

53:51
Yeah, was that a new thing? Part of the rebrand now you've always hadn't taken out Yeah. Okay.

53:56
So if roaring Yeah. Banana.

53:58
Yeah, milk. Yeah. Egg banana you milk Yeah, it's hard to say.

54:03
I used to do egg in my smoothies when I was younger. I just I'm such a big baby now. I want to eat like the cat Tyson. I just I think I thought I was more you know, I thought it was awesome back when I was going to the gym some reason don't have heaps of eggs I just

54:22
met you gotta watch the new documentary with an Arnold Schwarzenegger in it called game changes. I've gone I've gone vegetarian. Yeah. Last week. You have done. Oh, how do you feel? I feel horrendous. That's fine. I've been eating a lot of second. Too many carbs. Too many missing. Pizza for lunch. Yeah, I did. I did better than dominoes. But yeah, I think the thing is that what they're actually doing is it's not maybe less made. It's about like having plant like having a plan. Okay. Yeah. And if you're going to do what you need to do, you need to do the plan, but you need to be at salads and vegetables. And have you heard people talking about? Yeah,

55:03
I've seen a video and it's like, how do you how do you be strong as an ox and cycling ox doesn't eat meat?

55:10
No shit, but that being a big messy man.

55:12
Yeah, I mean, yeah, he got me

55:14
it's a good it's a good rule like, I think it's not a it's not a fad diet, being a vegetarian, it's been around lifestyle, it's just a choice not to do it I think if anything intermittent fasting is a fad or something like that the interesting thing is that all of these all of these things have been wrapped up in like, tradition and religion like think about like all the religions that have fasting or they have like vegetarianism, like all these things are, have existed for years and years and years even meditation, like a lot of its back in prayer, like all of these things have like a bunch of ordination. But I think the difference is that there's what's what's the standard being a vegetarian, super sustainable to not only from an environmental thing that is in a lifestyle I think versus these other ones that sort of a bit extreme from the get go. Have you got any rules like personal health like health rules, rules, rules, rules, rules to live

56:11
not everything in moderation. gonna drink moderation

56:16
it's good bro he said he's gonna have one but he go on in moderation is the ruler

56:20
like have broken the rule before?

56:22
Yes we all once a year Mikey man

56:25
just yeah I don't really have I'll just take things as it comes in there yeah set rules I think because like they'll be a time comes with that rule need to be broken so

56:37
this matters smartest man in the room or well according to his ATIA score Mr. 97 is there anything about wills journey that you've been fascinated saying from the outside? To be honest man, I'm actually

56:48
super I'm super impressed. Like that's such a difficult thing to do. Like all the even though like there's all this positive support and stuff right? its massive having all that attention on you I'll just I'm super impressed by you, man.

57:02
Thanks.

57:04
Again, it wasn't really a question but it was

57:07
lovely I think the most lovely things here and

57:11
you're going to send us a video of that what was the quite the answer? There was an answer that you couldn't give to us. You can take

57:18
the one person one conversation that you've had that sort of blew your way could be the craziest person like oh my god, I'm speaking to the body Prime Minister of dancer

57:27
now to it is a video.

57:30
Yeah, tag me Take Josh tag demo, and also

57:34
swipe up with Dinah.

57:37
What's happening? I'm trying to meet you because

57:41
she's Mars.

57:44
Mars.

57:45
Yeah, I'll send you another one. This is another interesting storey that Yeah, so I borrowed those Lady Diana Scott, which is listed to go to Mars. You could get caught. I don't think she will. Because she's bloody amazing. Yeah, on a one way trip on 2020. So These 2020 next year it's going one way trip

58:04
surely. Next year,

58:06
it's happening soon Josh was blown away by her as well.

58:10
And I. So years ago, I worked on radio and shepherd and there were there was a guy from the local area who was on the shortlist, but so far down like now this woman's made it way down at least.

58:23
So you know, what did they pick the astronauts its authenticity, adaptability,

58:30
Instagram following

58:32
our man, I'm going to message her and asked her what it is because there's another video,

58:37
Matt, you're going to be a full time social media. video content. Thanks so much. I mean, yes.

58:44
What Mr. 97 said, I think it like wearing or the fact that you've been able to go through all this and actually do it in a way that feels very true to you. And that's all you can really do, isn't it? Thanks, Joshua. Great today talk show hi the daily talk show. com is the email address. If you want to email us if you've enjoyed the show, please subscribe review on Apple podcast otherwise we'll say tomorrow guys say guys