EP 991
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:00] Very low barrier to get into the drone squad.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:07] We're committed to do the daily talk show for 10 years. Had guys put it in the
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:11] calendar.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:13] Just like to check the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story,
the daily talk show episode 991
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:23] happy whatever day it is. Hump day hump day. I knew it was a ham day.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:29] Oh, my hair is really slick today. Isn't it? AA? Yeah. What deals are we doing today?
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:38] um, I got my car service this week. Yeah. All in all. It was, uh, it was, uh, an okay experience, which is all you can ask for it. A car service center. Um, my favorite moment was when I worked out that, uh, the car wasn't, hadn't been vacuumed inside, which is like, I fucking. Love going for service because I know I'll get the car back.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:00] Bodies' been fucking shit up for the
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:01] last once a year. We vacuum that car once a year and it's the mechanics problem, but it's like, we found a whole loaf of bread. I really know that. No, no joke. I literally pull up, pulled out five crusts from his, um, you know, from his little side thing in the car. Um, I, I know that the mechanics do it, which is like asking the video production team.
To sweep or, you know, to do something after they have doing their key thing that they good at making the video captioning. Well kind of actually, it's probably the captioning of video production in mechanics because it wasn't done. And, uh, and the guy who's lovely that actually, you know, is working in the sort of the center who hands the keys back over, takes my money, all of that.
Come out to the car. Yep. Great, great. You've got your log book. I was like, yeah, it's in the back. He's like, Oh, they must have looked in there. And then I opened the door. I was like, Alright, does it, does it get a clean question? He's like dead sheets and sells it for awhile. I was like, man, that's a good call.
Like, I'll take it back to the dead shits, get him to back it out. And so you took it out they've acted. But, um, at that same was the exterior Clint exterior was lovely. So it wasn't a nice, but he, I, I, um,
same here on the dealership. Um, literally, I've got a piece of paper in my hand. Imagine I'm writing a number. This is where I went. We never bought our car from there, but the car salesman just did one of these. I just slid the piece of paper with the number across the table. And you'll let guy today.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:44] It's very try to feel a bit like that.
A car salesman.
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:47] Yeah, fuck it.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:48] Uh, episode 1000 is nine episodes away. Dope.
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:52] Wow. Um, we haven't feel like it was going to feel.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:57] And I don't know how that was going to fail it seriously. Doesn't does it, I think episode 500 for us felt big oven episode. Like this is 500 plus Hollywood. If you double whatever, this is episode a thousand EAs, can I be ridiculous?
Do you think the mcg is going to be about that's sort of odd, but we are very excited about it. Yeah. Um, and, but we haven't done. That much planning, which is not, not too dissimilar to the 24 hours straight and the 24 hours straight. I think that was part of episode 700. Is that right? So we did episode 700 on a Sunday, and then we're like, fuck, we don't really have anything.
Let's do a 24 hour stream the following Friday. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:45] And then that knocked out a good week. Yes. Feel it like feeling good. Exactly.
Josh Janssen: [00:03:50] And so, um, but we planned the whole 24 hour stream in one week. Yeah. We've got more than a week and we're planning to do 1000 minutes, which is just over 16 hours. It's a fair.
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:03] Lack of time, but I, but I'm up for the challenge cause it's on a Friday and then, you know, rolls into the weekend. We'll be done before midnight. Yeah. Starting will be here before 5:00 AM. Yeah. And it's not too bad at all. Is it is your chair? All right. Like for hitting 16
Josh Janssen: [00:04:23] hours, should I get an epidural
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:25] beforehand?
I should see if my mate who spent 12 Bitcoins on office chairs could give us one no $700,000. No painful is that many years ago, it's the running joke. You've got $700,000 chairs. It's like 10 Bitcoins or something. And there were 70 grand H now .
Josh Janssen: [00:04:46] It's not ideal. And so, um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:48] so maybe through, on the episode we could do some crypto trading.
See if we can make some money.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:56] This is the question. What I wonder is I'm way going to live stream the whole thing. There's some limitations around live streams. So, um, for instance, cause we did 24 hours last time we couldn't then put the videos, the whole entire. 24 hour live stream. We couldn't make it public after the live happened.
I thought
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:17] you're going to say you can't take anything back cause it's live that too. Yeah, the two, but yeah, it knocked it out. So. Which is a bit
Josh Janssen: [00:05:24] annoying. Well, but we have the whole 24 hour stream, obviously in its entirety that we recorded, which is handy somewhere. Um, so JB was looking at it. I wasn't, yeah, he was having fun.
That's a big export. Yeah, it was, it was over a hundred gig. Just the, the file. We
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:39] should get George to caption that. Hey, just on the captions thing, before we get back to 1000 Instagram stories, You can caption your videos automatically in stories. So if you just load in the story or film one in the story function and go swipe up or that, and then typing captions, and it says close captions, and it says transcoding audio, and it puts out like a cool motion, graphic looking.
Um, Oh, that's really nice. So
Josh Janssen: [00:06:10] yeah, let's just wait doing less on Instagram. That's not a criticism. I haven't been on Instagram. Yeah. There's less on this. We're doing less, but it
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:21] doesn't mean anything. Uh, hit 14,000 1400 players. Yeah, that's good. I may ask you, let me tell you about only fans and buying a ticket.
Give my ass off for
Josh Janssen: [00:06:31] five bucks. That's that's what the big is. Georgia picks the best bit. Like it's all very. Um, smarty the bits that you pick, but whatever the episode, 1000, yeah, we will stream the whole thing. We'll put out a, uh, an email to everyone with the link. Just think about like the 24 hour stream, there was a lot going on a lot of people and we're planning on doing the same thing.
So,
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:58] uh, but this time we're going to be in person of you and I we're going to have guests roll in. So there's going to be the cast spot downstairs, just available, and then they can just grab it. We'll hear the garage go on. We'll have someone opening the garage, roll in, come up and just plunk themselves.
And then we'll do a show.
Josh Janssen: [00:07:20] We can have some music, like, um, intro music that they could come into. That could be fun between, um, like as guests come in, should we set up the couch, the couch cash. Mike, what do you think up to you? So we have the setup that we have. We have our desk that comfortably comfortably fits.
Three, you can do four, uh, including us, but then we have a whole couch section, which we could definitely have handhelds. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:50] It's actually the couch that Amy's waters broke yeah. And flooded it. So it's got a few key. I mean, it was, it's a secondhand couch from us and maybe it was secondhand from the people who bought it.
So, you know, I've been, I've actually come home after a sort of a night out and. Amy was in the bedroom. And I found that couch was made up as a bed saying you're in the dog house, sleeping on the couch.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:15] I wonder about this was sick. It was second hand. What the stories are like, I don't like, I, I don't buy that much second hand books.
Yes. But I bought golf clubs and I was thinking, I was wondering what sort of player they sky was, you know, like, I wonder if he had any hole in ones. I wonder if this, you know, like I'm just feeling the grip. I was like, it was almost like, um, Seoul buddies, you know, I felt like our, maybe we'll, um, you know, do you need to get back to that message?
It's just, yes. Yes. What time are we thinking? Eight, 15 pickup. We're just doing some logistics on a production. Yes, yes. Yep. That'll work out well. Um, so yeah, I mean, that's a good segue with the episode. 1000, when we were doing episode, um, 24 hours stream. Yeah, it was very much like in, uh, the, uh, the pandemic,
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:12] it was remote.
So everyone had their own comfortable house. Yes. Or place that they felt comfortable in. And so you could just sort of fidget, you could sit a lean out, lean over and pick your nose off camera. Yeah. You could go and just steal her.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:26] Shaky shit. We only have the one toilet next to the studio
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:31] and I'm so glad that I'm the only guy who shits in this building.
So I've got my own private time. This is amazing. This is amazing. No, it's um, we all shit around here, you know, we're open to that, but it is so there's, there's, um, there's a difference when you're in person. There's a difference when we're in the room, there's a different energy. Yeah. Um, I even had like a rest on the couch where someone took over last time, Amy jumped on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was just, I didn't sleep no loud, but I don't feel like 16 hours is actually that much. No, it's just two work days.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:07] I'm feeling really good, but I feel like if I was, if I was doing this. In the mental state that I was two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be dangerous. Don't you think? Because I like it now. I just feel like, um, something would treat me and then I would just fucking start talking and just getting a bit, it just
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:29] No, I'm not sure.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:30] I wouldn't think so. No.
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:32] And so, uh, yeah, it needs to be nice, comfortable for people watching as well. Um, we've got our producers both. Yeah over there. I take for granted this studio a lot, and then I see photos of it and I'm like, that's great. That's right. It's a great studio. I wish I had that.
It isn't that fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. Internet speed. I guess you just get used to it. Get used to it.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:57] Uh, and so yeah, heaps of gas. I'm thinking if we're doing 16 or so hours. 10
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:06] to, if you had 10 guests with a bit of bleed, either side as in there's a fire in one of them and somebody is bleeding, that's enough.
I would love a solid guest. That would be cool. It's just the, the, we don't want, you need to worry about the
Josh Janssen: [00:11:23] technical getting warmed up. So the problem
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:27] where you want Pete married a walk up the stairs strong, but I could
Josh Janssen: [00:11:31] get really sore. So last time. We just had, we just got our new mixer, uh, radio mic, and Jack posts were playing from release the sounds and 10 seconds before I'm about to record Jackie, can I just get a bit of reverb?
I blew up because we could do reverb, but I couldn't fucking work out how to put the rate. We ended up doing it in post, like it's, um, It's not really Romy in my head. Just, uh, yeah, that was, that was upsetting. But anyway, I'll get the reverb going for any, um, any live performances. I would love to see some live performances.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:14] I mean, just fucking, just one women's performances. Like yeah. You can just go with one. Yeah. It's I just don't have a, you, you, once you have it said, who's going to play for one. Are you taking anyone these days?
Josh Janssen: [00:12:32] No, we could, we could have radio Mike and Jack pose. There's one. Good. Um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:37] that band is still together.
Yeah. There's heaps
Josh Janssen: [00:12:40] of people. Yeah. Um, I mean, what Sandy Lee up to the Andy Lee could play on
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:45] guitar. Yeah. Yeah. She could have asked me what about, um, once I was. This is classic radio. The, uh, salvation army band came into the studio. That's fun. That's fun. It was cute. It was cute. And they always have a nice story to Salvos band.
Um, I mean, your brother, I like it. I liked it cause it's such a low barrier and we can boss him around my library. Isn't easy, brother. He's fucking wicked. He's very busy. Oh, he's so loud. So now I really like his music and I think he could be like someone who could actually spend three, four hours here on the couch with his guitar.
And we just like to joke. Yeah, actually. Yeah,
Josh Janssen: [00:13:28] actually. So if we could get a 16, I mean, he he'll be working before we, if we can do a 16 now. Uh, live band the whole time. Just fucking fingers bleeding. Just, yeah, that'd be fun though, but what other instruments? So it would be good.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:51] Uh, I don't want to be, I don't want it to shit.
Me. I don't want no, like too much noise. Like it guitar. You're a fucking soccer, you know, I just know the land. You know, just feel it. Yeah. It's but I just know the self-awareness is around you. I know that I know the process need to happen. Um, you just want something that's just ease. It's all about ease.
If you learn anything after doing a thousand, it's like, but it's that the, so just wanted some ease across a day, but I didn't lie.
Josh Janssen: [00:14:23] Like, so I get the ease thing, but. He like a good things on easy, but I think about the 24 hour stream. So the thing is that was easier for you because you weren't having, you won't do it.
Like I was doing the V mix and switching and fighting
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:42] with
Josh Janssen: [00:14:44] fucking dealing with texts. Um, uh, yeah, like on V mix, you know, managing. Fucking coming in all of that sort of thing, by the way, Jordan, Michael Eddie's is great. There's nothing with Michael
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:57] cancel on
Josh Janssen: [00:14:58] you the following day. Yes, there was, there was an issue.
Pete Murray was coming on the same time Jordan came on,
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:08] but it's not about, I don't mean, I think
Josh Janssen: [00:15:10] you worried that because this is the thing that you, you ended up unscaved from it. Whereas, because there was so much. Interacting that I was doing and managing all of that sort of stuff. There was a bit of pressure, but the thing is like, so if we're doing it in a sh in the studio, or I can't think of anything that's going to really happen now,
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:35] then you agree.
I mean, there's always a tech problem that could pop up. Yeah. But that's the, that's the, that's the game you play.
Josh Janssen: [00:15:43] Yeah. So what are some of the, give me let's. Yes. And what are, what other things would you do?
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:47] Um, I think there's a great opportunity for people to fuck with us in certain ways. Not in a bad way, but like, it's like a terrible on it.
Ordering, ordering. She love people ordering shifts. I love it. I love surprise orders. Drop-offs deliveries. Um, while the show's going on. Well,
Josh Janssen: [00:16:07] that brings up the yellow cups. So what do we want to do with
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:09] the yellow cups and have, um, uh, uh, uh, somebody in the team willing to, uh, hang, hang off the side, not hanging off the side, but just lower down some cups, lower down, some cups.
Anyone who wants a cup, big yellow cup. For a donation. Sure. What happens is, have you seen any in, um, in New York city, there's this guy who, for all the, it's probably not around anymore. These, you know, the double-decker buses. Yeah. Have you seen the guy that has this, um, this arm, like, it's like a. Appall extension pole.
And then on, it has this little sort of holder and he puts a bottle of water, puts up to the top and then they take out the bottle and put some coins in and he lowers it down and I haven't saved them or it's like a note for him, but it's like a, it's like a, you know, it's, it's a system that he's got going.
That works really well. Any, any entities it's easy.
Josh Janssen: [00:17:05] And so we should have some form of button that can be pressed. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:10] I mean, you could depends on how, um, I was thinking about a doorbell, which is cheap. Yeah. Which you could actually just press, we could put it on a location that says, does it
Josh Janssen: [00:17:21] ring for specifically for,
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:24] yeah.
So what we'll do is cut a cup in half. We sacrifice one cup and you create a, um, on the wall. Is it a button inside of a cup? Yes. And see everything. They will know. There's nothing. Other than that, it doesn't say anything. It just says has a big cup. Yeah, there's a button coming off
Josh Janssen: [00:17:40] the side of the cup. Oh yeah.
Imagine. Yes. I love that idea. The other thing is we could rewire the chirpy box. Like that makes the ring sound like a doorbell has like a trooper thing too. Like I wonder if we could table that to an XLR to go straight into the mixer. So it goes in our, in our cans. That'd be cool. I wonder if we
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:03] could actually, there's probably some sort of button.
Sound effect button that we can just run out the window instead. I, it does connect straight up. So it's like a, our own version of a doorbell. Yeah. But heart much high
Josh Janssen: [00:18:15] quality. And so one of the, like what supplies are we going to need? Well,
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:19] is it like, um,
Josh Janssen: [00:18:21] in general, like as it, not just for the doorbell, but just over the, over the thousand minutes.
Uh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:27] lots of fizzy water, lots of water. Um, you're going to brush your teeth at least once across. A 16 hour period. So there's like, almost like a, um, George in the office yesterday pulls out a, a pack of cheese and biscuits. They say, I got this off the flight from camp. Yeah, he's taking the, yeah. I mean, it's, it's, he deserves it, pay for the flight.
Great idea. But like flights have great sort of little kits. And so there has to be some kind of little. At least little kit, Sean needed to feel comfy shocks. Last time we did 24 hour stream, we did, um, cotton on gave us some great comfy clothes. Yeah. That's all about comfort. Yep. Um, hoodies. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:19:14] I mean, we were, at that time, we were doing the merge stuff as well.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:19] I think. Wrong squad stuff.
Josh Janssen: [00:19:20] Yeah. Put that like maybe it's tempting. I did before you came in. I was thinking maybe, um, Maybe I could, we could get some new stuff screen-printed beforehand. I was like I said, a lot of just doing it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:36] No, no, no, it isn't. Who's organized. Yeah. Who actually, that's the thing, that's the thing about the pressure?
I don't think, I think you're you're right. Pressure does create diamonds. It does it, but it's sort of fucking crushes people, as I said the other day. Yeah. You really on that? Yeah, because I don't think there's. If you're, if you're doing, if you're at your 50th or a hundredth episode, you could probably push a bit harder, but at a thousand, I think you can just.
Celebrate what's being created without fucking, you know, burning down that Ted's 40th and the house burns down ever
Josh Janssen: [00:20:14] had. But do you still enjoy the pro what do you enjoy?
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:18] Enjoy? I don't enjoy the anxiety from some of the things we do. I don't, but I don't think it's almost like I don't need that bullshit in my life.
Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:20:26] Which I think I actually, even though I do have anxiety about these things, I do enjoy like the production, putting something together, doing all of that, having lots of guests, like that's the noisemaker, right? Like that's afterwards you feel euphoric
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:43] a hundred percent. I think there can always be another way to get to where you want to go.
And so, yeah. I think for a lot of it's, you know, Jules Lanza guy, who's always highly sort of, you know, everything's a fucking serious, but he's created something pretty amazing. Yeah. And he's, he's way of getting to amazing has been anxiety. But I think there, he seems different now he's changed his journey.
He's worked a lot on himself, but it's changing. So what I'm saying is there's a different way, so we can have a great at 1000 then. Feels much more seamless. Doesn't feel like you've grinded crazy to make it happen. And it's great.
Josh Janssen: [00:21:23] Yeah. I think there's probably a different scene. What sort of anxiety it is?
So with Jules, it was very much like, um, it felt like needing to make progress in some ways or just like that. Whereas I think. For me, I love geeking out on these things. So I love the idea of like, hang on, how do we network up this video thing? So we can have this call camera and the straight, or how could we be able to automate something when I press a button, it does three different things.
Like, even though that, that has that same thing of progression, it's also the fun of the tinkering. If that makes sense. Yeah,
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:07] totally fits your vibe, the tinkering, all that stuff. Totally. That's what's
Josh Janssen: [00:22:13] it? What are you like in the process? Like with the daily talk show, what's been the standout for you across
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:19] a thousand episodes?
Josh Janssen: [00:22:20] Yeah. Just in the process. What are you like? Um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:26] Oh, it's like life, you fucking love some stuff sometimes. And don't love it the next day, but the, the learning of just showing up and actually having a crack, when you feel like it, when you don't feel like it, when you kind of feel like it. That's that is, that is the, um, secret sauce that you can unlock of getting through the tough times, but also enjoying when it is good.
And also, uh, pushing back on when you, your mind thinks it's shit like it's, it's just a unique, um, unique, uh, you know, Thing to do
Josh Janssen: [00:23:06] or like, but I also think that before you do something versus after you do it, it's different before we did the 24, like you and I spoke at, like I mentioned, the 24 hour strain weeks before we actually ended up doing it.
Now it's fucking ridiculous. Like, we don't need that, but then it turned out so well, it's a video thing before we did video, that was a blow up of like, nah, like a video that's fucking ridiculous video, but then you enjoy it. So the thing is that. You can't, you can't take the feeling that you have the negative feeling of like, Oh, it's going to be shit.
Or like, so for instance, like the band thing, like that could be the fucking highlight. That could be the thing that like brings it all together. Um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:51] well for band. Yeah, but just not a fucking 10 pace band in the space. Yeah. No, I agree. No one needs that in their life.
Josh Janssen: [00:24:00] What are you excited about after a thousand episodes?
What would you like us to.
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:06] I have no idea. I don't haven't thought that far. I have not thought that far
Josh Janssen: [00:24:12] thinking about like, wanting to get guests, like, so we, because we're being, building out the production company, we have been in the last two weeks, four out of the five week days we've had shoots on.
Yeah. And so that's like, it literally knocks out, like you're doing an eight hour day out on, um, on shoots. So obviously guests and things have been harder, but I feel like it, it definitely has a place going forward. I spoke to gem queen Gronk the other day. She is going to come on episode thousands, Pete shepherd, a screw to Derrick all the OGs.
Um, so I think that there is something in is if you think about we haven't had, we've only had one, uh, D of Ella. He was our last guest, uh, Brad blanks. Before Dave Ella, they're the only guests we've had this year, I think, outside of George and Jess. Oh yeah,
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:04] yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's where you're trying to, I think it's finding that consistency is, will be the key, the you consistency, where you can incorporate all of that.
Cause we nearly shat the bed, doing it the other way, which is why we're doing it this way, which is good. I think it's just a refocus. Yeah. And so
Josh Janssen: [00:25:26] it doesn't, I feel like it, it's funny. I think, um, the sh the shutting, the bed thing shitting the bed that you said
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:36] chatting, shutting the bed. It's quite funny. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:25:39] Uh, yeah, it's interesting. Cause I think. Yeah. Like it takes us that like, think about social media, where the social media, where it was that posting six times a day, all of that sort of thing. You find a new version, um, you know, super high engaged sort of community management where it's like, everything is Gronk squad related.
You see how that, that was a full-time job in a lot of ways. Um, but then there are things that you can do, like, so think if. If you want to be competitive, competitive is probably the wrong word. If you want to stand out in this space, you need to obviously give it time to innovate and to do things and to experiment.
Um, and so I think the one thing that I would be careful of is I don't just want to keep it. I wouldn't want to keep doing something. And just doing the minimum effort, I would want it like it. And so that's, I guess that's one thing that I think of is like the idea isn't that it's just a stagnant thing that we just continue doing.
Um, because I think that like, as we evolve, we'll want to do different things or even, you know, bringing in more people again or things like that. Um, yeah, I think that, that's what I think about. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:01] Yeah, it's weird because you then don't know what will actually work. You can never tell what works.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:08] So for instance, before you do it, so like we peaked it at 90,000 downloads a month.
Then we went from seven shows to five shows this month where it will be about 55,000 downloads or something. If you actually look at the unique listeners. Compare compared to downloads. There's still this consistent audience every single day. And so, and then if you, and that's not even considering anything on YouTube, and so then you look at YouTube, YouTube numbers are going up different audience.
Yeah. And so there is something like, I don't think. I don't think that there's a risking fucking it up or risking, like we just need to create something that we want to do. That's
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:57] the K is then people won't like it, but that's because it wasn't.
Josh Janssen: [00:28:02] Yeah. But do you, do you, in the moment when we're doing this, do you think about things of like, Oh, it would be good to X or Y or Zed in regards to what we're doing now?
In what way? So for instance, like I think about, okay, the guests thing, or, you know, structuring a few things around the day or, um, you know, just because we've removed everything.
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:27] Yeah. I think, I think the behind the scenes thing is, um, yeah, you can think about all of that, but where we have, uh, we're focusing on building the business.
So there has been a version of. Keeping keeping the show going because we're not stopping that. So there is a consistency, um, and you're needing to put focus on something else because you see how, when you focus on the show only, I actually don't know how we survived for so long when we did put so much of our weeks energy into doing the show.
And so you see how you can survive doing that, but you see how you can see how something, when you neglected it does go by the wayside. And so there is a, um, yeah, guests are obvious, you know, fun guests, a couple of weeks, um, in studio, um, out of studio.
Josh Janssen: [00:29:29] Do you think that cause like, I think for me doing.
Doing the client stuff, focusing on video production, what we're really good at, like getting that going I've always had in my mind, still that plan, which is everything for me shifted. So it's like rather than executing on, you know, a space that's conducive to a daily talk show that sort of like, if you think about pre.
Pre 2020. So the end of 2019, some of the plans that I was working on was like an, a studio space space with bleachers. Do you remember that? So it's like a studio space that had, uh, you know, a hundred person seating. Yeah, so that people could sit in the show, we would do like, um, uh, middle of the week, you know, harps could come on the show or we could have key people to come in.
We'll do collaborations. There'll be a few bought those
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:34] bleachers. Not that you have in mind, but yeah, this is the crazy thing about gift shop. I thought it'd be great to have a Mandarin if there's a person. I mean, the main thing
Josh Janssen: [00:30:45] is, but you've gotta be able to. So the thing is that it's like, It's um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:50] not to say that you shouldn't ever think this stuff, but like, look at the people who bought, uh, got a 500 square meter office just before COVID and then couldn't use it for over a year and then couldn't use it in full capacity.
It's like not to say you shouldn't ever do these things or think this way, but you got to know that sometimes they won't, but I think that the balls are, but you
Josh Janssen: [00:31:11] want them to, but I think this is a thing. I think that, and this is where I feel like I come from it from a slightly different angle is it's like, When you do hard things, when you do things that are like putting your neck out, sometimes the guillotine comes down.
Like it just, it just happens. But that the hard thing is that, uh, most people will look and point and say, this is why. You shouldn't do that. And this is the reason why you shouldn't do something Epic. This is why. And so like, even if I'm looking at the, the podcast stuff, like everything happened the way that it was meant to happen based on like, we D we, we had two years doing everything that we wanted to do.
And so it wasn't like one day we were like, Oh my God, we've like nearly lost the business or anything like that. It's like, we were prioritizing and doing that. And then we're like, Oh, you know what? If we want to go from a three person team to a seven person team or a 10 person team, we need to create some, a bit of business to allow for that.
But I think
Tommy Jackett: [00:32:19] get you back to where you wanting to go. It's all a part of the same plan.
Josh Janssen: [00:32:22] Yeah. I just think that the, I think that there's a, there's definitely a risk in people looking at it, pointing at things that haven't worked out and said, this is why you don't do it. Whereas I think that that, that Bleacher idea.
Obviously within COVID or things like that, that doesn't work, but there's still a place like I'm still dreaming. I'm still thinking of, you know, where that is because, um, if I'm, yeah, for me, if I was like, I feel like we've got more to offer. Like, what we're doing right now is really awesome. But I feel like this is early steps in a much bigger plan.
Tommy Jackett: [00:33:01] Yeah. Yeah. I think that, so the thousand thing you could see as a race it to then it's like most people fuck it. After 10 episodes, most people don't go past 20 episodes. The point of getting to the thousand is like, it's a new baseline to play from. So you can, that's why don't, don't say my, uh, Uh, lack of competence, lack of thinking about what is next as something like it's, but it's like a new playing field out.
Josh Janssen: [00:33:31] And I think that that's fucking do it. Well, I think that that's a clear thing, right? Which is from a conversation perspective, being, making sure that everyone's in the same head space of what that is the difference between. Episode thousand. Like it doesn't have to be crazy. Doesn't have to be anything, you know, let's just celebrate the past or whatever.
Like there's an element in that, that it could be like, okay, are we still creating stories? Are we still building out narratives? We still doing all the stuff that you need to, that what made the last thousand episodes? Great. Um, And so I think that there's yeah, that reset that you're talking about, I think needs to be looked at through a positive lens of, okay, like, this is, this is how we're going to get to the next point.
Um, and it's not coming from a place of ego and sort of like, Oh, we need to be the biggest or this sort of thing, but just like, just talking like, this is really nice. But it's not pushing us at all. It's not like we've, we've done a thousand episodes of this or, you know, nearly we know how to turn on the mic and talk.
And so then it's like, okay, but what other things can we develop? What other things can we, and so that's aware even. Yeah, I really enjoyed, you know, working with, with Tony, you know, uh, building talent as well. So I think that there's still a place for that as well.
Tommy Jackett: [00:34:58] Oh yeah, mate. It's just the beginning.
Josh Janssen: [00:35:01] All right.
Well, it's a daily talk show. Hi, the daily talk show.com. You'll hear if you listen to the podcast. So we put in an ad asking people before Monday. We want your suggestions of your favorite moments from the podcast? So GB can, uh, chop them up and put them into a space.
Tommy Jackett: [00:35:20] And if it's 1,893, that's the episode you're listening to right now send through something anyway, because if this is in the future and you're listening.
Oh sure. We had a baked in ad or we had a dynamic ad at the start of the show and it's probably gone, but we still want to hear from you 2000 is coming up. If they're
Josh Janssen: [00:35:39] going back, which people do
Tommy Jackett: [00:35:43] confuse the fuck out of them. So if
Josh Janssen: [00:35:45] it's, um, if you're going back in, if you're going back in time listening, you understand how it works, then
Tommy Jackett: [00:35:50] just email us, tell us what we should do for that three.
Exactly. Or 2000.
Josh Janssen: [00:35:55] I have a good one guys. Gotcha.