We chat about Josh moving house today, All You Can Eat restaurants and our new office printer!
Show Notes
At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –Josh hid in a spare room with a torch on strobe mode during a Gumtree furniture pickup to avoid interacting with the buyer.
- –Tommy has had two house moves paid for by employers: Shepparton (radio station) and Sydney to Melbourne.
- –The hosts recommend negotiating rent when moving out — Josh got a $50/week reduction simply by giving notice.
- –Setting up a new budget printer ($159) was a frustrating multi-step process involving WPS, Wi-Fi bands (2.4GHz vs 5GHz), and app downloads.
- –The duo riff on all-you-can-eat buffet experiences (Langham, Grand Hyatt, Japanese, churrascaria) as a potential team outing idea.
Questions this episode answers
How can you negotiate a lower rent when moving out of a rental?
Josh says that when they told their real estate agent they were leaving, the agent immediately offered to drop the rent from $550 to $500 a week to keep them, suggesting tenants should try negotiating before moving.
What is a churrascaria and how does the paddle system work?
Josh describes a churrascaria as a Brazilian barbecue restaurant where diners use a two-sided coaster/paddle (green for 'more', red for 'stop') to signal to servers whether they want more meat brought around.
Did Tommy ever have a house move paid for by an employer?
Yes — Tommy says a radio station paid for his move to Shepparton, and he also had his move from Sydney to Melbourne paid for.
Episode TranscriptShow
Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad.
Josh: That's crazy. We've committed to do the Daily Talk Show for 10 years.
Tommy: Hi guys. Hi guys.
Josh: Put it in the calendar. I'd just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.
Tommy: It is outrageous.
Josh: Come on, let's go. It's the Daily Talk Show, episode 942.
Tommy: Happy Thursday, Gronks. What is happening? What's going on?
Josh: I'm just getting used to the idea of pressing start. And then casually walking over.
Tommy: Mate, it could be its own intro. The swag you have, which is— it's more a guy who's just really trying to ride out every second before he goes on air. And then you sort of swag over and the music's playing and you just sort of— I can tell. I look cool.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Do you think I think I look cool?
Tommy: I think you think you look cool.
Josh: You don't look fucking cool. I'm moving today.
Tommy: It's good.
Josh: Yeah, it's a Moving, do you think you're a good mover?
Tommy: Mover and shaker? No, I mean, I'm in the wrong occupation if I thought I was a good mover. Like, if you think you're good at moving, I think it'd probably mean that you're either very organised and you could be suited to that as an occupation. You know, that is—
Josh: What does that mean?
Tommy: As in, like, becoming a removalist.
Josh: I don't think you have to be organised to be a removalist.
Tommy: Well, I think you need to have a certain type of brain. Like, you don't have it.
Josh: You don't think?
Tommy: Mate, you are a guy that would try and put a, like a fucking— I'm trying to work it out. Like a, you know, like you're a cat with its whiskers cut off. You don't have spatial awareness even when it, like for when it comes to furniture going in somewhere.
Josh: When you're holding furniture, because I've been carrying a little bit, like very few pieces of furniture.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: First of all, can I like— I am the worst boyfriend in existence. So, we had someone buy some bookshelves, which were the shelves for my books, just my books alone. And he bought them through Gumtree. And I said to Bri, I just don't want to have to deal with the interaction. I just don't want to have to do it. It's like, it's just money handing over and then, you know, he takes the shelves. It's all good. So, I said, I'll wait in the spare room with the door closed while he comes. So, I don't have to deal with it.
Tommy: Well, at least you took them out of the spare room because that's where they were. Yeah.
Josh: So, we moved it out. I even said for everything when people are coming, I say, why don't we put the furniture outside the apartment so that they don't even have to come in?
Tommy: It'd be annoying if they cancel on you because that happens often. Exactly.
Josh: And so anyway, I put the shelves in the lounge with Bri and then the doorbell rang. I went into the the spare room. But there is something strange about having to stay extremely still. I'd forgotten my phone in the other room, so I didn't have my phone. I had another—
Tommy: So, what were you looking at? If there was a CCTV camera on you—
Josh: Like, what was I doing?
Tommy: What were you doing?
Josh: I literally had my torch in my hand on strobe mode in case he ended up being a creep.
Tommy: What, and came for you? Because, please tell me.
Josh: No, I was going to just be like— if I heard anything happen, I was going to jump out there and strangle him. So, I didn't feel like I was just a complete loser of a boyfriend. Like I was sort of, you know, I was a protector of a different kind. But anyway, Bree managed it like a champ. Unfortunately, during the whole thing, for one, he didn't bring anyone with him to help carry.
Tommy: Yeah, sure.
Josh: And so, Bree was thinking, oh, it would actually even just be nice for Josh to hold the door.
Tommy: Oh, no.
Josh: But I can't.
Tommy: Coming out after you've done that is the weirdest thing.
Josh: She was going to say, actually, maybe my boyfriend's home from work.
Tommy: Oh, no. But maybe he came up the back way. Maybe he came up the back stairs. I'll just cheque the room.
Josh: Yeah. Hey, guys, just came through the back door. Like, we're in an apartment block on the corner. There's on the 5th floor. That's not happening.
Tommy: He probably wouldn't have said it. He probably would have been, oh, well, sure. Why would someone ever lie about that?
Josh: Yeah. But then I heard tools coming out like he was going to dismantle the whole thing.
Tommy: Oh, no.
Josh: And at that point I was ready to come out and say, dude, it's over. Like, you're not doing it. Because the thing is, I even— I am pathetic. I've said multiple times, let's just get professional removalists to pack our stuff.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And I only do that when I'm having to do shit. So like, as soon as like I'm wrapping glasses in paper, it goes in two ways. It's like, we should get professional, professional removalists. This makes you never want to fucking move. Like, these are the things I say that makes you never want to fucking move.
Tommy: I mean, it's how the other half live. If there was— I mean, I wonder how much it is. So, like, a 2-bedroom apartment, it was, it was a lot more.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Well, yeah, I guess not. You're trying to do it on a budget.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: I got— I moved to Shepparton. You know, I live in Shepparton. Yeah.
Josh: And we also know that the radio station did pay for your move. Yeah. Really proud of that.
Tommy: Yeah. And have you ever had a move paid for?
Josh: No.
Tommy: Because you know the feeling and you'll brag about it. There's something about having a move paid for that feels real good, feels real nice. Because think about it, you're not thinking about how much it's costing you. You're just thinking about, I'm out of here. It's going to get done.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: And so we did that from Sydney. I've had two moves paid for. I had Shepparton and then Sydney to Melbourne paid for.
Josh: Yeah, but I just don't like the Just that you realise everything becomes annoying. The other thing I'll say is, let's just buy one when we get there. Oh yeah, just like, oh, why don't we— like, we need to sort out the, you know, the cutlery. The other thing I might go to now is like, oh, The Office will have that.
Tommy: Well, we do have a lot of shit. I tell you what, you— we went yesterday for a— for just what was going to be just the desk, a desk that we got when we went into ISO that we were going to bring back to the office. And you've pulled a Tommy Jacket, which he does to his dad. I'm talking about myself in the third person. I do this to my dad, but I'm like, yeah, it's just going to be this, like putting together a flat pack. It'll be a 30-minute job, I reckon. Get there 3 hours later. We went there, turns out you had our office at your place. I was moving bloody storage systems. Your, your, your, your seat, the desk, cable management. I— it was fully packed. Like the desk was still functional. It could have been a coworking space.
Josh: Why even? Yeah. What have I done to— I sent a message to Bree yesterday and said, I appreciate you and I understand how much work you're putting into everything.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Thank you.
Tommy: Look, I— Because the temporary— Maybe does a lot of the grunt work. But one thing I will do is the physical stuff. So, when we do have a, like for instance, we got our bed, it came, I put back, put the bed back together. I, you know, no problem in getting physical in moving shit. Where is it? I think you've got to find your place.
Josh: Well, Bree sold the bed, was a little bit broken after I stood on it. And I, she sold it for $50, which I was fine with.. And then she said to me, hey, I'm running late. I think you'll just have to be there when the guy comes and collects it. I said, babe, I'll give you $50 and you can chuck it. I don't want to have to deal with it. I really— and I understand that, you know what, like, people criticise me, they'll troll me, they'll say I'm a piece of shit, I've got no sense of the world. But like, does it— do you, when you're carrying—
Tommy: you'll say to them, I've been to 40 countries, fuck you. I know this world.
Josh: You haven't been to— I know this world. But I—
Tommy: but how many Roughly?
Josh: I don't know. It must be 15, 30. Jess has been to more countries than I have. Okay. You know, Contiki take you on a lot of places, you know. Yeah, she's gonna fucking hit me for that.
Tommy: But, um, because she's admitting she went on a—
Josh: Well, I don't think she went on Contiki.
Tommy: Okay, okay.
Josh: She's probably saying, no, I did it all myself.
Tommy: Do you think that Contiki has some bad branding around, like, you've got no idea, so you're letting someone else really decide?
Josh: Well, yeah, Contiki is, um, it's the, uh—
Tommy: Is it the buffet dinner?
Josh: Is it? Yeah, it's the cruise ship or the buffet dinner. I mean, I did catch you getting excited about some sort of new buffet, all-you-can-eat.
Tommy: Where was this?
Josh: I don't know.
Tommy: I just, I feel like Amy and you were talking about, oh yeah, there's— No, that was Jess. That was Jess.
Josh: Oh, was it Jess? Sorry, Jess. Was it in Bendigo? No. Was it Sizzlers?
Tommy: She flagged, I think this is okay. So, there's a few all-you-can-eats that are all right. Like, I'm a fan of Pizza Hut all-you-can-eat, old school. Not many of them. It's nostalgic for me. I grew up going there. I'd say that more of my bogan friends are into places like the Crown Observatory. What's it called? The— There's another one on South Bank. They're epic all-you-can-eat.
Josh: The hotel one that got down with the salmonella or whatever.
Tommy: What is that called? The Grand— Not the—
Josh: It's not the— The L—
Tommy: Langham.
Josh: Langham.
Tommy: The Langham. Also, the Grand Hyatt. I'm listing off everywhere I've been. The Grand Hyatt has an awesome all-you-can-eat. We went there on Christmas morning once. I don't think my brother had slept. He didn't eat much. He'd still— I think he came straight from Revolver. No, but there is something about those. And so, I think Japanese all-you-can-eat is like not—
Josh: It feels like an oxymoron. Do you think that they even— Like when I think Japanese, I feel like minimal and considerate and like really thought— So, the idea of it's—
Tommy: All-you-can-eat.
Josh: Yeah. All-you-can-eat Japanese. Because I feel like in Japan they don't even say, I'm full. They say, I'm satisfied.
Tommy: Do they?
Josh: I didn't know that. Because, you know, full implies that you've gone too fucking hard. You know what I mean? But I'm satisfied means you've just had enough.
Tommy: Well, to get full on sashimi, you'd have to—
Josh: You're going to shit yourself.
Tommy: You've taken out a small fishing pod.
Josh: Sashimi is like the raw fish that's been sort of like cured, not cured.
Tommy: Say it again.
Josh: Sashimi. Okay.
Tommy: You said sushimi.
Josh: Sushimi. You know, su?
Tommy: Sashimi.
Josh: Yes. That's why it's got like a bit of a lemon citrus. Sometimes it's got citrus sort of things. Doesn't have to. Sometimes. Yeah.
Tommy: You literally can eat raw fish. That's—
Josh: Yeah. It's like a timer for me. If I have that, I know I need to— I'm going to shit in 2 hours. Really? Yeah.
Tommy: It's like— Why raw fish? I think you've just got bad guts, mate.
Josh: Maybe. I have thought about that.
Tommy: But I don't think you eat that much sashimi. I don't think you eat that much Japanese food. It doesn't seem like you're not— Like you're the guy that would go to Persian over Japanese.
Josh: Yeah. Mexican, Persian, Thai. I had some Thai the other day that I thought wasn't— It was meant to be massaman curry lamb. Actually think it was an animal that I'd never eaten before. No, I'm serious. It was either that or it tasted a little bit like a freezer sort of job. Oh, yeah. And so, there was just something, and I said it to Bray, I'm like, do you think this could be another animal?
Tommy: Well, most likely not. We're in Australia. But Jess had said that there's great all-you-can-eat Japanese and there was probably, and we looked it up, there was 5 of these places. There's one in Camberwell, I think it was. And I think it's fairly reasonable. I really want to go and I think it could be a team thing because this is, you either go expensive Japanese and you're hungry or you go all-you-can-eat. And I think we, and we really need that.
Josh: So, the best all-you-can-eat, was it with you? No, I must have been with Naysan. Vegas, we went to a few casinos that did really good all-you-can-eat, like Chocky Mooses and like, because they sort of, they keep you around with the good food and—
Tommy: Well, that's the easy bit. The ones that are great are where they're cooking up fresh curries or you're getting a fresh pasta. So, the Langham has like, you know, Italian section, Indian section, there's like a seafood section. I wonder if these things are still going to be just with, I guess, with even still with COVID maybe they're coming back now. But I think we go to the Japanese one.
Josh: And so, what would I expect?
Tommy: What do you mean? What would you expect?
Josh: So, you go in.
Tommy: Oh, what would you expect if you went there? I have no idea. It's just courses. I think you just, I mean, just bringing them around, bringing them around.
Josh: You know what? Actually, this is something we can do.
Tommy: Trays of food.
Josh: Not to completely dismiss Japanese or Japanese. Japanese idea.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: But it'd be good to have an idea that, um, comes from me that I like and everyone else likes.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Um, a churrascaria.
Tommy: What is that?
Josh: It's a Brazilian barbecue.
Tommy: Oh, yeah.
Josh: And, um, uh, Jess will love it. And the reason she'll love it is because they have a— it's almost like a paddle system where you have like a green and a— like, it's like red light, green light. And if you have the green paddle up, more— you means you want more.
Tommy: That's great.
Josh: And they bring around this and they have different sort of stuff and So, you just— I've gone to one in— There's not many in Melbourne. Maybe they're in like Docklands, but I remember in New York going to one and they had like— It's almost like a— What do you put a cup? You put a cup on a table, the thing between the table and the cup.
Tommy: A coaster. Coaster, yes.
Josh: You think English is my second language.
Tommy: You have them at your house. You have to use it.
Josh: Yeah. It's required.
Tommy: I've got them. Bodhi just plays with them as toys.
Josh: And the— we've got some Audio Technica ones too.
Tommy: I—
Josh: the discs. Anyway, the— it's sort of like that. It's like a coaster that you flip up and down and you can get some really nice mates. I think that everyone would get around that.
Tommy: Yeah. Okay. So you've got— so this week I've moved quite a few things from your house. You've got me into it.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Today's the day. Are you— what do you— what's the game plan? Are you going to actually put in any effort.
Josh: Well, so, the problem is that over the last few days in preparation, when Bri gets upset with how much we have to still do, my go-to is, let's not do it now and do it tomorrow or let's do it. And so, there's— What's the game plan? I think just— So, last time we moved, I mentioned this to you.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: When we moved out of a place last time, I hadn't packed up a whole room. That was my job. And it was a lot of like small bits and pieces. And it became a hassle. So, as long as before the removalists get in, if everything is in boxes, it will be easy.
Tommy: Well, because then you're just leaving the removalists come and grab everything. So, last time we moved, it was quite close how far we had to go. And so, I, as soon as there was boxes there, I'd go, Car, drive, car, you know, come back, load up again, drive, load up again, drive. And if I'm just keep moving and don't have time to stop and think about what I need to do, that's when I fucking fall apart.
Josh: Do you have the desire? So, like when you and I were moving the desk from my place, do you ever have the thought of, I just want to drop this right now? Do you know what I mean? Where it's just like, this is annoying.
Tommy: Well, doing a flat pack with my old man over the weekend, I saw similarities in how he approaches shit and me.
Josh: And so in a good way or a bad way?
Tommy: Yeah, like the instructions.
Josh: Is it called a flat pack because it makes you feel flat?
Tommy: Fucking oath.
Josh: Because I— you, you got— when you bought it, you were fired up.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And then I texted you at like 6 p.m. being like celebratory mood, like, hey, how'd you go? And you're like, getting dinner, still going harder than I thought.
Tommy: You know, the thing about flat packs The convenience of how they come flat packed.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Is almost—
Josh: You get here at the final end.
Tommy: Well, you like that and then you go through the pain of the flat pack construction and then you come back to the other side. You're like, well, I need something again. I was like, oh, that was convenient getting it delivered like that in a flat pack. But then it's going to happen again. But we've already ordered another flat pack of the same one and it's actually really— Once you've done one, Easy, easy to, easy to do if you know, if you've been keeping—
Josh: Well, I love, to be honest, the, um, the new computer screen I got. That was a joy. I read the manual, I did the thing, I clicked the thing. It was way easier than what you'd think.
Tommy: Well, I tell you what's not easy and a pain in the fucking ass. Okay, printers. So Jess has wanted— I mean, we've just been, you know, bitching about Jess on this show. We love you, Jess. She wanted a printer Rightfully so. I felt guilty because I'd already thrown out my $350 printer because it ran out of ink. Ran out of ink. Ink was too expensive. It was too big. We didn't use it once in the couple of years we've had this business.
Josh: I've gotten rid of a printer.
Tommy: Like, the same one.
Josh: I've had so many printers.
Tommy: And so I've, I've, I literally binned it and I went around. I even asked Mason, would you sell this?
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: And if he says no to selling something, you know you can't sell it. Yeah, it's trash.
Josh: And so, and Jess also just got an iPad Pro, so surely if anyone's going to go paperless, it's the person with the iPad.
Tommy: But now, seeing as we bought one yesterday along with your screen, it was a cheap, a cheap printer, you know, in the scheme of things.
Josh: $159, I think.
Tommy: Which I think is quite cheap.
Josh: Um, did it come with a toner?
Tommy: I don't know.
Josh: It's, well, is it working?
Tommy: It works.
Josh: Oh, good.
Tommy: And so the thing was, to get it to work was the annoying bit. I said, I sort of lumped it to Jess and like, you want this. You know when someone wants something, you're like, well, you figure it out. Here you go. It's on. I took it out of the box, passively put it on her desk. Yours? Yeah, there it is. There's your printer back.
Josh: That's almost like when I moved. It's like, I didn't really want to move.
Tommy: Anyway, I put the printer on her desk. She gave it a good crack, but we wanted Wi-Fi, and she plugged it in via USB to the back of my computer. She's like, do this, plug it in. Installed it, but then you're meant to have it plugged in if you want to go that way.
Josh: Yeah, you need to go with the WPS. You need to use a different technology. You need to press the button, WPS button on the router, and then press it on the— Have you done it?
Tommy: On the— Yeah, there was a WPS. So, you knew this because you were talking about this yesterday.
Josh: I said this to Jess and she would— Every single time I tell her anything, she straight away thinks that I'm mansplaining. Like, even when I asked George, George, can you help lift this desk. So why can't I do the lift the desk? I said, because fucking George is right here. You can lift the desk if you want. And so anyway, I could feel with the printer—
Tommy: I would put my money on Jess kicking your fucking ass in a boxing match.
Josh: But she, but she, um, she seemed very adamant that she was in charge of the printer.
Tommy: So she, she was, and then I— if she couldn't work it out, well, she said I hadn't read the instructions properly. I was like, well, there's your problem.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: And then she read them again, and I was like, okay, I'm going to give this 5 minutes. I read the instructions and I tried doing what it was, what they said. They are fucking annoying. Like, they are not clear. The thing you just said, hit the WPS thing on your router, whatever that was, and then hit the thing. I looked at our modem, doesn't have a button. And so I was like, well, this is fucked.
Josh: You might need to enable it in the settings, but it's also an easy way for people to hack using that tech. But there'll definitely be another way.
Tommy: I said, what did I say?
Josh: I said put it, plug it into Ethernet. Is that what you did?
Tommy: No. So I had to— this is, this is why I think printers would get thrown out before they're even used. Like, Mum would struggle doing this. I had to download an app, I had to Google it, I had to then click through to some random site, followed this thing, found the model number, which wasn't clearly on its pack. I had to then print off something that showed me the exact model number, type that in. It gave me a download to it. You can print without it actually connecting to anything. It's like, sure, it's almost like you hold a button and you let go and it prints just the specs of the printer. Anyway, I ended up downloading this app, uh, logging in. It wouldn't allow me to connect to Wi-Fi because it was 5G and it's not 5G compatible.
Josh: I have two Wi-Fi.
Tommy: I had to go back down to the 2.4 her, yeah, Wi-Fi. I then connected it up through the app and then it works. But it was—
Josh: So it's working now?
Tommy: It's, yeah, it's working. You can find it, you can start printing, but it's— we got no paper.
Josh: So I did hear you say, like, you're calling from downstairs, yeah, no, it's only A3, sorry about that.
Tommy: No, it's no color, it's no color, it's just black and white.
Josh: No, A3.
Tommy: Yeah, but we've got— It's also only colour. No colour.
Josh: That's good.
Tommy: So, anyway.
Josh: That's all we need.
Tommy: It's— I just hope this one doesn't get thrown out. Like, I felt guilty about the last one getting thrown out.
Josh: I agree. All right.
Tommy: Well— Good luck.
Josh: Thank you. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Are you moving? Have you had any moving disasters over the past few months? I feel like a lot of people are doing— I'm hearing a lot. It's a tenant's market.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: If you're thinking about moving, If you're thinking of renting, negotiate your rent.
Tommy: Have you actually got a good deal though? And what was, is there a script that you could just give us that you could flick off to your real estate agents?
Josh: Our rent was $550. When we said, hey, we're leaving, they said, we'll do it for $500. No question, like just straight away. $50 a week off. Like that's a big saving.
Tommy: It's a lot. It's a lot, mate.
Josh: All right, well, that's a Daily Talk Show. See you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.
Tommy: See you guys.
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