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Episode 93738:52

We're Back For 2021!

It's our 3rd birthday and we're back for 2021! After a few weeks off, we catch each other up on some news, Josh's hike at The Grampians and Tommy's big announcement!

Show Notes

00:00Tommy's Christmas trip
02:43We've got news
10:34Josh nearly died at The Grampians
22:39Tommy's exciting announcement!
30:33Richard Janssen's raisin toast
32:29Probiotics & Siggi's Yogurt
36:01We're going to 5 days a week in 2021!

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –The show returns after a 3-week holiday break on its third anniversary (episode 937) with a refreshed intro and logo.
  • –Tommy and his wife Amy are expecting a second baby, a girl, due around June 2021.
  • –Josh experienced a frightening dehydration/possible sunstroke episode while underestimating an 8km hike in the Grampians.
  • –The hosts debate switching from WhatsApp to Signal over data-privacy concerns involving Facebook.
  • –From the following Monday, the show moves to a Monday-to-Friday-only schedule, dropping weekend episodes.

Questions this episode answers

Why did The Daily Talk Show take a break at the end of 2020?

Tommy and Josh took their first three-week holiday from the show in years over the summer break, returning for episode 937, which coincided with the show's third anniversary.

What happened to Josh during his Grampians hike?

Josh underestimated an 8-kilometre walk, ran low on water, and experienced dehydration and possible sunstroke symptoms including hallucinations; his partner Bree ended up driving them home afterward.

What is Tommy's pregnancy announcement in this episode?

Tommy revealed that he and his wife Amy are expecting a second child, a baby girl due around June, confirmed via a blood test after an at-home gender reveal.

#baby#amy#bree#grampians#raisin toast#gatorade#crocs#yogurt
Episode TranscriptShow
0:02

Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad. That's crazy!

0:07

Josh: We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.

0:09

Tommy: Say hi, guys. Hi, guys.

0:11

Josh: Put it in the calendar. I'd just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.

0:16

Tommy: It is outrageous.

0:17

Josh: Come on, let's go. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 937.

0:23

Tommy: And we're back. Special day today.

0:26

Josh: Yeah, it's our third birthday.

0:29

Tommy: So, if you're just tuning in for the first time, we've been on a little hiatus. Is that what you say? Hiatus?

0:35

Josh: Holiday.

0:36

Tommy: Holiday. Sabbatical from the show. Our first 3 weeks off in many years.

0:43

Josh: Many years' time. Sabbatical sounds like it's something fancy, like you went out into the woods and wrote poetry.

0:49

Tommy: Yeah, I wish. We drove to the border of New South Wales and Victoria and then turned around. Well, we had Mexican food first and then we turned around because Canberra, right? Yeah. The borders were shut and we were going to Sydney for Christmas.

1:05

Josh: So, what was the thinking? So, you— Because a couple of days before they were starting to say Northern Beaches, there's trouble, there's a lot of COVID happening.

1:14

Tommy: Yeah.

1:14

Josh: But you could still technically get to Sydney.

1:18

Tommy: Yes. Well, I mean, it was always the case of like this could happen, like they might It was the case of if we go, we could get stuck there. That's all we kind of knew that when we finished off the year last year, that's what we knew. And so, we just committed to going, committed to just driving and then committed to stopping at the border to have lunch and reassessing the situation. Amazingly, that plan coincided with the time. It's actually, we actually knew that there'd be announcements because they were around about 12 o'clock. During the day, right?

1:52

Josh: Yeah.

1:52

Tommy: Known announcement from Daniel Andrews. And sure enough, they said no. And so if we went, we would have been stuck there, but it didn't go.

2:00

Josh: So I don't know if it was Dan doing the— I know he was on holidays. He was on holidays.

2:05

Tommy: He was on a sabbatical. Poor bastard on a sabbatical. That guy, I heard he came back and he— this is the Premier of Victoria we're talking about. He— his wife said that he was on the phone 10 hours a day and he was 20 minutes down the road from where he was phoning into. So his wife's like, go back to work.

2:23

Josh: What do you mean?

2:23

Tommy: Oh, really? Like, go back to work. Don't—

2:25

Josh: like, his holiday was—

2:26

Tommy: he cut it short. Yeah, that's what you do if you're a lead.

2:29

Josh: But how was he so close to where they were doing everything? Was he like—

2:33

Tommy: it'd be like—

2:34

Josh: in the CBD. Really?

2:35

Tommy: No, no, no, no, no.

2:36

Josh: It was tough to tell.

2:37

Tommy: It'd be like the office is in, you know, 20 minutes down the road from your house. And so, yeah, anyway, anyway. A bit of news. Should we go through some news?

2:45

Josh: Because we haven't—

2:46

Tommy: we haven't done sort of life updates.

2:48

Josh: New intro. Excited about that. Yeah.

2:51

Tommy: Yeah. That in.

2:52

Josh: Nick Patton did a great job on the motion graphics. The 3D Dill did a great job on the logo refresh.

2:58

Tommy: Yeah. What do you reckon? Do you like it?

3:00

Josh: I hate it.

3:01

Tommy: That was a rhetorical question.

3:03

Josh: That was great.

3:04

Tommy: I love it. My haircut.

3:07

Josh: Yeah. Tommy's currently— you've got to watch the video.

3:10

Tommy: Oh yeah.

3:11

Josh: You've gone— it looks like you're in a screamo band from 2000.

3:15

Tommy: 2007. It does. But the best thing is I can just push it back and I look like I'm at Morris Jones.

3:21

Josh: What's Morris Jones?

3:21

Tommy: Just a hip, you know, Prahran bar.

3:25

Josh: What are they? Just like a drinking bar?

3:27

Tommy: It's got food. I mean, this is not a plug for Morris Jones. It's a— it really works if you get it.

3:32

Josh: Yeah.

3:33

Tommy: Is it like a pub? When you explain it, it's a somewhat fancy-ish dining. We should go for dinner there. They have gone like a I'm fully doing a read. Californian Japanese, which is like, you know, fresh. I mean, you can just gauge what it is.

3:51

Josh: It's not a fucking read.

3:52

Tommy: Anyway, I know the owner. Great guy. We've been surfing together. Friend of a friend. He's a good bloke. Anyway, what else is there?

4:01

Josh: I got Crocs. I'm showing you right now. I went for the sort of— it's not the classic. They were out of stock in the classic. But what do you think?

4:13

Tommy: I mean, so we have a group, a text message group between big media company employees, and you sent those in and I'm all fucking for them. Like, I've already looked up for white ones. It turns out white, I think, is pretty rare. Like the— More popular.

4:30

Josh: These ones are black, the ones that I have.

4:32

Tommy: Which isn't rare, I guess. They're so popular that they're sold out. The black ones. I mean, They blend in. You almost want a statement with Crocs. They are a statement to say, I've given up.

4:43

Josh: No, no, I actually, um, for the guy who— I've become a more empathetic guy over the break.

4:49

Tommy: How? Because usually it's because either, you know, people who have been through some tough shit usually are quite empathetic. Empathy— sympathy is feeling sorry for somebody, empathy is feeling their pain— have probably embodied it themselves and And, you know, it's hard. They really sort of, you know, really respect what you've got, what you're going through.

5:08

Josh: So what is it? You know, last night the Uber delivery guy, Uber Eats, wouldn't deliver to our door. And I, in the moment, I said, that's cool. Because initially I was like, no, he comes up. It's a full, the full service. I was like, you know what, it's 2021. He's just trying to fucking live. And I had my Crocs. And so I put my Croc, like, because the pain in the ass is I take my socks and shoes off when I go into the apartment and then I'm left with—

5:43

Tommy: Which is most rooms you ever walk into, you take your socks and shoes off.

5:45

Josh: Yeah, it's nice. And but the annoying thing is you take them off. I don't— I do not walk barefoot anywhere. Even beaches.

5:57

Tommy: Why? That's made for barefoot.

6:00

Josh: No, the problem is with the beach thing, it's not being barefoot. It's when you go to put your socks and shoes on, they're fucking sandy. And how annoying is this if you think about beaches? So, how would you deal with this situation? Tell me. In regards to the sand and how do you deal with the beach?

6:20

Tommy: Okay. So, it depends if you're randomly like you were the guy that when you're at a beach, Picture seeing some tall bloke that's rolled his jeans up and walking on the sand holding his sneakers. You always feel sorry for that guy because you're like, that guy didn't fucking plan to come to the beach. He's somehow ended up on a date, or he's, you know, just happens to be there, doesn't like the sand, and now he's in the fucking sand.

6:45

Josh: But so how do you prepare? How do you go— how do you transition from beach to car?

6:50

Tommy: Oh mate, this is, this is the thing. You Your car's going to get sandy, your feet are going to be dry.

6:58

Josh: Not an option.

6:59

Tommy: See, if that's not an option, don't fucking go to the beach. It's like saying, I don't, I don't, I hate getting any food on my hands, so I'm not going to cook at all. And so no, it's like saying I hate things getting between my fingers and then going to try and make rissoles.

7:19

Josh: It's all rational.

7:21

Tommy: So like, I went to the beach, I took Bodhi to our the beach that I grew up going to as a kid. Very nostalgic. My dad was very happy that we did. We were— it's a place called Pines in Shoreham. And Bodie's a kid that loves the sand but also loves just his shoes are on going in the water. Like, he doesn't give a shit what it is. And so I'd committed this car, got sandy. I just did it. But I'm not to say I like it. There's an adjustment period. I spent my summers at the beach as a kid. Yeah, there is an adjustment, and I know the feeling of not liking sand, but I then just like, I like the water and the experience too much that the sand issue is not an issue for me.

8:05

Josh: Sure. Well, I think the problem is that the water is like, there's sand between the water and getting back to the car.

8:15

Tommy: Yeah.

8:16

Josh: So, the idea of this thing of, oh, just Wet your feet.

8:21

Tommy: Have you seen Drop Dead Fred?

8:23

Josh: No. What is it?

8:25

Tommy: Drop Dead Fred.

8:26

Josh: Can I get— Is it a Jim Carrey film?

8:28

Tommy: Nah.

8:29

Josh: I'll imagine. Doing it?

8:30

Tommy: Nah, nah. It's that similar humour of Jim Carrey, but I don't know the name of him. But he's like this imaginary person that appears and he's funny anyway. He gets dog shit on his feet. And does a handstand into the house, I think it is, and then stamps the dog shit into the room and handstands out. So that like, it's like, how did that happen? Someone's brought the dog shit in. But it's just this classic scene of him on his hands. Anyway, it's different. But I could imagine you doing a handstand, which he couldn't, but a handstand from the water with clean feet.

9:01

Josh: Definitely. All the way.

9:02

Tommy: All the way to the car.

9:04

Josh: But so, my Crocs. Yeah. Where they're great, Bree and I are moving into a house.. And it's got a garden. I was watering the garden. And normally you would get into like, these are designed for gardening, really, aren't they? Because I was watering stuff and I initially sort of flinched or just had sort of a physical response to water going onto my feet.

9:30

Tommy: Yeah, no, I get it.

9:31

Josh: And I was like, oh, they've got holes. It's drained, drainage. It's fine.

9:35

Tommy: Well, it's— I mean, if you're a butcher, You're probably wearing Crocs if you're a cook. I've seen them white. Like, think about it. Think about it. You kind of like hosing down the, the butcher, the, the space after it. Painters. But then you've got rappers as well. I mean, this is the thing. So my take on the Crocs, I think we should have to make it a rule in our contract for employees of big media company. You need office Crocs.

10:04

Josh: Feel how light they are as well.

10:07

Tommy: Yeah, they are very light. Like, so I brought in Vietnam, so I wore my shoes, my runners in. Yeah.

10:13

Josh: To the, to the office. And then when I got in, took my socks out, laid them out because I'm waiting for some special sort of sweat-wicking socks. So I'm still using my shit socks at the moment. And so I'm like laying them out, letting them dry.

10:26

Tommy: No, I mean, it's a big purchase. It's, it's some big news. I mean, what else? What else could I say from the holidays? It's a good time.

10:35

Josh: I nearly died.

10:37

Tommy: You nearly died?

10:40

Josh: Yes. The— So I went— No, seriously. The Grampians.

10:47

Tommy: Beautiful place.

10:47

Josh: Yeah. Didn't realise that there was— It was a hard walk. Thought it was an easy walk. I thought it was an 8-kilometre walk. I'm like, I've walked way further than 8 kilometres.

11:00

Tommy: 8K is not far. It's like—

11:00

Josh: No.

11:01

Tommy: You do 10,000 steps in a day.

11:04

Josh: Yeah.

11:04

Tommy: Yeah. But if you are going up a mountain, 8 kilometres, especially in Crocs, it's fucked.

11:11

Josh: It's significant. And so anyway, did you have your Crocs on?

11:14

Tommy: We're going to get clear on that.

11:15

Josh: But I, it was bad.

11:18

Tommy: It was really bad. When you say, like, you tell me this near-death storey and I'll tell you about my brother's best friend and what happened. Okay. And we'll see the comparison.

11:27

Josh: It wasn't even funny. Like, that's how bad it was.

11:30

Tommy: I mean, dying, sometimes it's funny.

11:34

Josh: Well, so, the thing was that I decided last minute Grampians is like 3.5 hours or something from where we live.

11:41

Tommy: A lot of time to think about what you're about to do, you know.

11:44

Josh: And so, the problem was that I'd packed water but had drunk most of it before we got to the walk. And so, by the time we were walking, I only had like 700ml of water. Yeah. And, and it was, it wasn't even a hot day, but I got— and it was one of those things where it's like, you're nearly there, you're nearly there. You know, it's hard because there's a certain point where there's only hot people, like there's just people with abs because it's obviously hard to get there. Yeah. And I knew that I wasn't meant to be there because it's like people would cheer you on. When you're going past.

12:26

Tommy: And we had one— You're doing well, mate.

12:27

Josh: Yeah. And we had one group where we said, oh, how long till the top? And they said, oh, about 15 minutes. And then one of the other guys in the group said, oh no, that was us, about 25. Did he? Yeah. And so, we obviously didn't look like we belonged in on this specific hard walk.

12:48

Tommy: It's pretty rough, though.

12:50

Josh: But my— I was Googling just like I was learning about muscles.

12:57

Tommy: As you're going.

12:58

Josh: Yeah, I'm just like, what is it like? How do you fix your core?

13:00

Tommy: You're not dying if you're Googling. I mean, you actually could be, but on a walk, like, why did you keep going? You feel like—

13:07

Josh: Well, so that was the whole thing. I think that where we went wrong was we were like, oh, we're nearly there. We're nearly there. Let's just keep going. And I should have just pulled the pin. Way earlier. And so by the time we got to the top, I'm nearly in tears, and we have to get back, and it's harder going down.

13:27

Tommy: And so you with Bree, obviously. What, what's Bree's state of, uh, what's her mental state?

13:35

Josh: A lot more resilient than I am. So she was fine. She let me have her water. I said no. I said, you have something. No, I'm actually fine. I'm actually fine. She said, all I'm That my biggest concern here, like, you know, it was about like, my biggest concern here is getting you off the mountain. She sounded like a— I nearly, no joke, the only photo that I took on the top of the mountain was an emergency number that you can call when you're at the top. There's a— they actually had a sign, quote this number. Yeah. But it's—

14:14

Tommy: How do you think all the signs get up there?

14:17

Josh: Well, this is the thing. Like there's arrows, there's stuff on the top of the fucking Mount Everest.

14:21

Tommy: Yeah, I know. But someone's taken up there. Some capable person. Yeah, some hot— Yeah, that guy. He actually installed the sign. You know that there's— You could go for days without water. You do know that.

14:34

Josh: Well, that's right.

14:34

Tommy: Like, you know that you're complaining about water and your struggles.

14:38

Josh: Well, that was the weird thing is I fasted, all of that sort of thing. But it was just— And I—

14:44

Tommy: It's pain coming out somewhere.

14:46

Josh: I think it was also I had some sunstroke, I think. And so the— And then you just, you, you start to spiral. So I'm like, I can taste metallic. What does that mean? My chest hurts. I'm saying this to Bree. And there was one point where the other thing is it wasn't that well signposted. And so there was a moment where Like, we— a couple of times we got lost and I had to say to Brea, I said, I like— can you go and just make sure we're going the right way? Because I only have capacity to get down in a direct way. If we, if we get lost at all, I'm done.

15:24

Tommy: Well, we, we've heard the storey of 3D Dill. He's not the friend I was mentioning about the near-death experience, um, but Dill did a 40K walk round trip because he fucked it and went the wrong way and his feet were butchered. Yeah, it's like the Pain, when it comes to that stuff, think about if you were exercising, the pain you feel, which it's almost like you framed the pain in the wrong way. You framed the pain that you were having like that you were at home. Like if you were— the pain that you feel from exercising when you're in it, you're like, oh, fuck, this is tough. But if you all of a sudden, like imagine right now, if your body was hit with the pain of being on that mountain, you would need to call an ambulance because you— Contextually, it's, it's, it's completely wrong. Whereas the pain that you were feeling on a walk up and, you know, 8K walk or whatever it is makes sense. Yeah, I think you just didn't want pain. You thought you were going for a leisurely walk.

16:22

Josh: So the problem— what? No, the problem was that I was unable to— like, it took so long because I couldn't control— I felt like I couldn't control my body. And so I even had like, I thought I was hallucinating. I don't know if like, this is the problem because I'm so dramatic.

16:42

Tommy: I don't know.

16:42

Josh: Is this real? I said to Bram, like, I just saw a man, but then he disappeared. But I'm like, am I just fucking like playing into what would happen if I was in trouble?

16:52

Tommy: Middle of the day on a— I mean, when you break it down as a 4K walk one way, 4K walk the other way.

16:58

Josh: Yeah. But it took 6 hours. Long, long time.

17:00

Tommy: I wouldn't mind to go do it just to see what it's all about. Maybe that's an Adventure Club. We go back and retrace the steps of Josh Jansen on his last ever walk.

17:09

Josh: Well, the almost— I've got the AllTrails data so we can see exactly the way that we went. But even after we, like, once we got down, the other mistake was like, I was just, I was just like, a bit of a wreck and a kangaroo came out the very end. I had to run. I thought it was going to attack me. So, I ran to the car, like I lay down. I'm just like so happy that I survived.

17:33

Tommy: Who drove home?

17:34

Josh: So, this is the thing. It was Bree and my 13-year anniversary.

17:38

Tommy: Okay.

17:39

Josh: And so, I said with the Grampians thing, I'm like, she's like, Grampians is so far. I'm like, babe, don't worry. I'm going to do all the driving. You don't have to worry about a thing. She had to drive home because I was just in so much pain.

17:51

Tommy: Why didn't you stay there?

17:52

Josh: You should have gone to the toilet.

17:53

Tommy: Well, so we did.

17:53

Josh: We did.

17:55

Tommy: And as in stay the night?

17:57

Josh: No, sorry. We did think about that. We did think about that. But the options, like we didn't have anything. And I just, I felt like I just wanted to—

18:05

Tommy: You could have had a hotel room.

18:07

Josh: Yeah, I just wanted to be, I just want to be home. But the thing was—

18:09

Tommy: When you're crying and, you know, sulking in the car, you've got to get home.

18:13

Josh: But the other thing was that I don't think Bri realised how bad I was. Like, I just needed water. Yeah. Because Once we got down, so Bri drove down the mountain or whatever and went to a general store and she said, oh, you know what, you need something with sugar. I'm going to get you Schweppes Raspberry, which was my drink of choice as a kid. And I'm like feeling still like I'm going to die from dehydration. Anyway, she goes into the general store. She's in there for a few minutes. She comes out and she doesn't have anything.

18:50

Tommy: And she's now married to the guy that was walking past.

18:53

Josh: No, the— she comes out and she says, oh, they didn't have Schweppes raspberry, so I'm just going to go to another store down the road. I just need water.

19:03

Tommy: Just—

19:03

Josh: and so, and it's a beverage.

19:06

Tommy: Yeah, something. What about Gatorade? That was probably it.

19:08

Josh: No, Gatorade for me is like, obviously it's, it's got all the sugar and stuff, but I just and electrolytes and made for exercise. No, but the thing is, I feel like it's a bit of a— like, Gatorade might sponsor me one day, but I think it's a bit of a scam.

19:22

Tommy: Like, just the, uh, what's right— what's raspberry at that point if, if in that comparison it's the sugars? Oh, you're saying they're upfront about their— that raspberry— Schweppes raspberry are up front about here's how many calories you're in.

19:39

Josh: Yeah. Whereas Gatorade, Gatorade, how much better for you is it than soft drink?

19:48

Tommy: Much better, I think. I think based on the context of it, the sugar, like, I think you've electrolytes in it. No, I know what you mean. It's somewhat halfway between what you're saying. What I'm saying is probably where it lands, as in the like. So for instance, what's in those drinks? When I was into training a lot more, you could buy like, um, the, the glucose, you could buy the— this bit of the, you know, the electrolytes, you could buy other things that would be in it that you make some horrible tasting drink and then you have it. People who drink Gatorades and don't do some kind of athletic performance stuff, it's probably not right for. It's great for hangovers and if I mean, I don't have it. I'm fucking sticking up for Gatorade right now and I haven't drank it in 3 years.

20:35

Josh: Yeah. You know, Powerade as well.

20:37

Tommy: And Powerade.

20:38

Josh: But we actually, we went to the McDonald's in Ballarat on the way home and they actually had a, they had a sign for— That wasn't, it wasn't meant to be funny.

20:48

Tommy: You've just painted the most pathetic trip of your lifetime.

20:51

Josh: You know, we had so much fun. Bree said—

20:53

Tommy: All trails, pathetic trails.

20:55

Josh: No, as Bree and I were sitting down at Macca's, she's like, this is the perfect anniversary. This is exactly—

21:01

Tommy: That's good. Yeah.

21:02

Josh: But no, what I noticed on the sign was they still do the orange— McDonald's do the orange cordial for sporting events where they give you the big, the big container thing that you can like.

21:15

Tommy: Yeah, I remember. I wonder if that's regional only.

21:18

Josh: Don't know. Like, I haven't seen it in a while.

21:19

Tommy: Do you reckon we could get it in Abbotsford if we're doing some kind of activity at the office?

21:23

Josh: Yeah. We need a game of Ultimate Frisbee.

21:25

Tommy: That's good. That's funny. Anyway, I'm glad you survived because we wouldn't be here if you didn't. Well, you wouldn't be. I don't know what I'd be doing. I don't know what any of us—

21:38

Josh: You'd be sad.

21:39

Tommy: Of course I would.

21:42

Josh: Would it be funny? No, not funny. But would there be any elements of like, oh, can you believe it?

21:48

Tommy: The only time I would laugh is because I'd think you'd probably laugh.

21:51

Josh: Yeah.

21:51

Tommy: And I'd be like, Josh would actually be laughing. It's the ultimate shtick, isn't it? He's gone out on a stick.

21:57

Josh: Yeah, he tripped. It's great. Like, it's such a Josh way to go. But anyway, I've decided that I'm going to be the most prepared walker going forward. Okay. So I said that to Brianna before we went.

22:11

Tommy: One foot forward.

22:12

Josh: I said, I am going to always have more food and liquids and all that sort of thing than I need. I'm going to have a first aid kit.. So, if anyone needs help while I'm hiking, I can help them.

22:25

Tommy: Well, I mean, all you need is a backpack, like with a, like just a prepared backpack, but then you won't use it anyway. The— We're definitely back to where we were last year, aren't we? Just, you know, the same old stick. Announcement I have over the holidays.

22:42

Josh: Better than the Crocs?

22:43

Tommy: Well, it's up there. The Crocs were fucking good, but. I mean, this is pretty good too.

22:52

Josh: He's holding up a— What is that called?

22:55

Tommy: It's a scan for a baby. We're having another baby. Amy and I. Congratulations. Amy is pregnant. We're having a baby girl.

23:03

Josh: How do you feel?

23:05

Tommy: It's becoming more real as our tummy— Well, that scan that I just showed you was from like 8 weeks and it's now like 14, 15 weeks in. And so we, which is why we know the sex and we, mate, how's this? The, so some people don't want to find out gender.

23:24

Josh: We do.

23:25

Tommy: We've already got a name.

23:26

Josh: Are you saying the name or no?

23:29

Tommy: Oh, I might in the next couple of weeks. There is the middle name is a surprise for somebody. And so that's why I don't want to, want to say it. And the thing is, the name is like, I'm sold on it. I'm saying it all the time. Bodhi says it. You guys know it. Yeah. So it probably won't change for me. But Amy was on the phone, like we were both in that stage where she was on the phone to her friends and did the announcement of the name and then was like, but before it was like, yeah, I think we've found it. I think we're going to land on this. We did this with Bodhi. We were calling Bodhi Bodhi when, when he was 15 weeks old. The name is Belly. And so maybe, yeah, about 15 weeks.

24:08

Josh: People still call him Brody.

24:10

Tommy: Anyway, so we've got, we've got the little girl's name, but to To find out the gender, you need to get a blood test and they can see it when they do the scan sometimes, but it's not completely accurate. And so, you get the blood test, which is like 90%, 99% accurate. So, there is still a chance it could come out a boy, but it's not. It's not. It's a girl. Anyway, we— you pay $500. You fucking— it's a blood test.

24:34

Josh: That's how much it costs.

24:36

Tommy: Well, it's not testing just for gender. It's testing for all the other issues that can come up. Everything was low risk, which is great. And the only reason we found out the gender was because we called. Well, I was like, but Amy, can you book back in to go and get the results from the doctor? Yeah, great. We called a couple of times, always hung up. I ended up going down there. The joint was closed. And so we were already like—

25:03

Josh: Was it a doctor?

25:04

Tommy: It was a doctor surgery closed. We it was like 2 weeks after we, we could have had the results. And so we scrambled and called the place and then we had to sign some release form online, like digitally sign it.

25:19

Josh: In a movie.

25:19

Tommy: And then they send you a two-factor authentication.

25:22

Josh: Oh, really?

25:23

Tommy: Like there's more security on this than you fucking combat. And so we got it in and, you know, did the little reveal in bed. And so the second baby is—

25:31

Josh: How did you do the reveal?

25:33

Tommy: Um, are you ready? All right, let's do it. Comes up like it's got all the low risk, low risk, low risk, low risk. Gender: female.

25:42

Josh: Okay, so it wasn't like fireworks, like, uh, because people go all out, the cake. I know, I would have loved if you—

25:48

Tommy: Well, I sent, I sent a little video around to all you guys about the gender.

25:53

Josh: That was funny.

25:54

Tommy: Which, um, we won't post online, but it's, it was a fun little gag. Uh, and so No, it's interesting because we didn't have any boys' names. Like we were struggling for boys' names where— and we could only come up with girls' names. And so is that meant to be? I don't know.

26:14

Josh: I feel like you weren't thinking creatively.

26:17

Tommy: No, I know. But no, but like we literally couldn't land on a boy's name.

26:21

Josh: Do you think it's because you really wanted a girl?

26:23

Tommy: We really wanted to. Yeah, we did. We did. As much as I would have been nice to have a little boy, I actually— yeah, I want—

26:29

Josh: And so you've told someone. We're getting a lot—

26:30

Tommy: I'm getting a live snip on the show this year, tying the tubes.

26:35

Josh: Oh, great. Yeah, that'd be fucking—

26:37

Tommy: Seriously, I'm 100% doing that. If you are a snip doctor, let us know. Have you had the snip? Yeah, let me know. It's a very— it's a low invasive surgery. I think you can have it at Morris Jones, to be honest.

26:52

Josh: I'd forgotten what that was. I was about to ask you what Morris Jones was. That's the bar.

26:56

Tommy: Trust George is in the room. He's always good to laugh at jokes. Anyway, it's a, um, it's gonna be—

27:02

Josh: So what does Bodhi say? What have you— how did you tell Bodhi?

27:05

Tommy: Well, he, like, it's what I was saying before I went down that rabbit hole was, um, the second kid is so— it's just like, I mean, it's not, it's not as crazy as the first. Like, it's all new, you know. It's like the second one, you're not— I'm like, I couldn't even go to some of the, um, scans with Amy. They wouldn't let you in the room.

27:27

Josh: COVID?

27:28

Tommy: Yeah, during COVID And so it's like I was like, oh well, yeah. And Amy's cool to go by herself, whereas the first one it's like we were fucking stuck to, you know, next to each other. I wanted to be there for everything. Now I'm just like, I think I've got something on. No, but like, it's a different vibe. And so the announcement for Bodhi, he was a bit ratty when we told him, and so he didn't really care. But now he's coming around. He's like telling people, telling the people at the cafe that I've got a little sister coming.

27:52

Josh: Did you plan to tell him? Was the whole telling him whilst he was a bit ratty, was that a purposeful things like, look, mate, you're not the only one.

28:01

Tommy: We just— that's when we found out the female thing, the announcement. He didn't— yeah, like, the announcement, it just wasn't— he, he didn't give me what I wanted.

28:10

Josh: What did he say?

28:12

Tommy: Yeah, like, he just doesn't— he's 3 and a bit, he's nearly 4, doesn't care, didn't give a shit. Like, you guys gave me more than him, but he's gonna— yeah. Anyway, so, um, June June 22nd, I think. June 20-something. 27th. 22nd, I think it is. Yeah.

28:31

Josh: That's so exciting. And so is that same hospital and stuff, or do you like, now that you—

28:36

Tommy: There's one closer to us. And so it's meant to be a great one.

28:40

Josh: And because I was on the phone to you when Amy's waters broke.

28:44

Tommy: Yes. And you were on the phone to Jules Lund when his wife's waters broke.

28:48

Josh: And also Till Spielhoff's as well. Yeah, it's a thing. I don't know what it is. I think it's just like they do it. It's midway through them saying, get off the fucking phone. Just, just, yeah. Any excuse to get off. Or maybe it's just excuses to get off the phone. Actually, a lot of people have said that. Yeah, I think they're even pregnant.

29:07

Tommy: Dude, I'm, yeah, I'm more ready for all of it. I'm more ready for all of it. And Amy's doing well. I mean, her whole holidays has been her sick. So she's— it's such a fucking classic case. You go back to work and you're feeling better.

29:22

Josh: Yeah.

29:22

Tommy: And now it's like she's got 4 more months of work before she finishes for a while.

29:28

Josh: Does she eat anything specific, like into any of the supplements or anything? Oh, Gatorade. Yeah.

29:36

Tommy: Look, we've got a sponsorship with Gatorade for this birth. No, the first pregnancy, it was all about orange juice. And this one is all about pineapple juice.

29:46

Josh: Really?

29:46

Tommy: She's loving pineapple juice.

29:48

Josh: My mum loved the petrol station, I think, when I was a kid.

29:50

Tommy: Just going to the petrol station. Just sniffing. What?

29:53

Josh: Not like just, just being around it. None of the food, just like the smell of petrol, I think. Yeah.

29:58

Tommy: No wonder you're so into hot rods. Anyway, what else is there food-wise? She's up and goes, up and goes, loves a good up and go when she's pregnant.

30:11

Josh: But yeah, it's ice cream.

30:14

Tommy: What else is there? I mean, it's just the juice is the real thing. The up and goes. What else is there? Toast, jam on toast, she's been loving. I don't know, just she like gone off tea and she was a huge tea drinker. First baby, I don't think she went off tea too much, but it's making her sick if she has tea.

30:31

Josh: Do you know what my dad gets into? I thought it was just very funny when we were staying at their place. Raisin toast.

30:40

Tommy: Oh yeah.

30:41

Josh: It is very funny.

30:41

Tommy: It is good.

30:42

Josh: So, are you going to have our tea for breakfast? What's our tea? Raisin toast. Oh, don't be mean. I downloaded a photo of raisin toast and AirDropped it to his phone.

30:57

Tommy: What's up?

30:58

Josh: What the fuck is that? Fuck you, fucking idiot. But yes, there's something very funny about raisin toast, don't you think? I mean, it's like he's on a vineyard breakfast every day, like just raisin toast.

31:11

Tommy: Raisin toast is the raspberry Schweppes of toast. It's no bullshitting. High in sugar.

31:16

Josh: Yeah.

31:17

Tommy: Burns your fucking fingers if you take it out the wrong time and you get a little raisin at the top, you know. Ow! Yeah. What does he put on it?

31:24

Josh: It's butter.

31:25

Tommy: Like real butter or margarine or olive grove?

31:30

Josh: Hard to know. I feel like you would get the one that's probably helping his cholesterol. I love good cholesterol.

31:36

Tommy: Oh yeah, olive grove. Or I could imagine him saying you're pathetic if you said that anything else other than butter. Yeah, because it is the OG's butter, like salty butter.

31:46

Josh: It is delicious.

31:47

Tommy: It's fucking real delicious. Yeah, reminds me of winter. It reminds me of—

31:51

Josh: Yeah, but it was December, couldn't have gotten hotter. But yeah, I mean, yeah, raisin toast, I could imagine, can imagine getting around it. I remember just— You don't need it. It's not something you need to get rid of. You just hear like, you hear stories, people completely fine with their weight. Like, you know what, I have this every day. It's all fine.

32:16

Tommy: Yeah, dude, I'm not that person either. Like, if I have that shit, I'm bloated and feeling like shit. Yeah. I'll put on the— like, I mean, we've got back to— we're really back to our roots. Food chat.

32:26

Josh: Yeah.

32:27

Tommy: Straight back.

32:28

Josh: And you found— do you want to tell everyone about your new favourite drink?

32:31

Tommy: What is it? I don't even know.

32:34

Josh: Cherry.

32:35

Tommy: Oh, Nixpa Cherry Cola. Oh, dude, real good. Real good. You know how I found it?

32:42

Josh: Lemons in things. That's like water.

32:44

Tommy: That's good. That's good. I only found it because I'm sort of, if we're going to go hard on the food chat, I've been very sort of lean with what I've been eating after debauchery over the holidays. And, and I needed something a little sweet. And I didn't want to have any calories and I didn't want to drink a Coca-Cola. And next minute I found a can that's like probiotics, no artificial.

33:08

Josh: Isn't probiotics a bit of a scam or no?

33:11

Tommy: I think Gatorade's probably more of a scam than probiotics.

33:13

Josh: Really?

33:14

Tommy: Probiotics is something that is in your guts.

33:19

Josh: So it's like it's meant to be. So if you have antibiotics, you can then have probiotics to help you bring the biotics back. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck are biotics?

33:29

Tommy: I don't know.

33:30

Josh: I've got into yoghurt as well. Siggy.

33:34

Tommy: Oh yeah. Yeah. Amy's been into the ciggies too. Seriously. She said, can you get me some ciggies? What the fuck?

33:41

Josh: Marlboros or what? Yeah.

33:42

Tommy: Enfield? I used to smoke Dunhills as a kid.

33:45

Josh: Orange juice and ciggies. That's what she is. And raisins.

33:49

Tommy: Ciggies with an S, not a C.

33:50

Josh: No, it's really good. But they— I don't know if I'm comfortable yet. Regularly eating out of a pouch.

33:59

Tommy: Well, the ciggies that I've had. I mean, we're talking pouches. He doesn't get it, though, George. The ciggies from a pouch or from a— Yeah, because you can smoke ciggies and they come out of a pouch like you get a pouch of tobacco.

34:15

Josh: But no, I'm talking about the—

34:17

Tommy: I know what you mean. A baby's fucking sucky little— Bodhi has them. But I mean, they're fine. The ciggies that Amy was having were out of a tub, a little tub. And so just stop. You are a baby. If you are having those, you're an absolute baby. Although the protein ones, the high protein little suckers, I don't know, there is something about sucking out of one of those that's very childlike, isn't it?

34:45

Josh: Just driving the car.

34:46

Tommy: But people do like it. Convenience. That's what it is. I mean, we buy that shit for Bodhi all the time. Anyway, it's good to be back, guys. It's good to be back. We're— what have we got, another 7 years that we're starting back up?

35:02

Josh: It's also nice. Don't you think? Like, so I was slightly worried about coming back and just being like, oh, with how the world is and all that sort of thing. But I feel comfortable. Like, we've found our groove.

35:13

Tommy: I know, Amy, we're in a bit of a utopia here in Australia. Like, I mean, there's nothing like, like on the way to work, you know, nice weather and zero cases of COVID and you're hearing, you know, UK 60,000 yesterday. Like at that moment I'm like, fuck, we are like, I mean, it's, you know, we're surrounded by sea, controlling the people coming in.

35:38

Josh: It's—

35:38

Tommy: we're very fortunate in Australia to be where we are. And we went through that shit last year. And you're right, this year starting fresh, GB, the full team, you know, it's, it's, it's fucking exciting. It's only GB here at the moment. Everyone else is gone. We love everyone else. We'll reference them when they start coming into the office. But at the moment.

35:57

Josh: Thanks for the clarity.

35:57

Tommy: Yeah, just, you know, bringing that clarity to the show.

35:59

Josh: And we took a break off social media. That was nice.

36:02

Tommy: Yeah.

36:03

Josh: But we will be posting at the Daily Talk Show.

36:06

Tommy: Yeah.

36:07

Josh: We're trying to work out how to like what interactions look like. For 2021, how we interact with you all, uh, trying to like maybe—

36:16

Tommy: I'll call every person by themselves every night if you want to call. I will call you, give me your number, I'll give you a call.

36:23

Josh: WhatsApp is— WhatsApp's not good anymore, you know that?

36:25

Tommy: So what's happened with WhatsApp?

36:26

Josh: Oh, just very quickly, the privacy stuff's fucked because it's handing over all the metadata stuff to Facebook. Yeah, okay.

36:33

Tommy: Um, it's their own business, isn't it?

36:34

Josh: Yeah, but they've gotten— so like a year ago they came out and was talking about the importance of privacy and that they weren't going to— weren't doing all this stuff. And now they're like, your address book, all of that stuff straight to Facebook, your phone number. And so, heaps of people are going to Signal to the point where Signal, which is like an instant messaging app, had so many—

36:53

Tommy: Made by Facebook? No.

36:54

Josh: No.

36:55

Tommy: Who's that made by?

36:56

Josh: I don't know.

36:56

Tommy: Jack Dorsey. Jack Dorsey. Yeah.

36:58

Josh: Twitter.

36:58

Tommy: Ah, that's right.

36:59

Josh: They're in the same.

36:59

Tommy: What about Telegram? I'm getting— So, if you—

37:03

Josh: So, the thing with Signal, it is— it doesn't hold any of that metadata, I think.

37:08

Tommy: Which is encryption. Is that encrypted messaging or not?

37:10

Josh: But WhatsApp has encryption.

37:13

Tommy: Okay, but it's about—

37:13

Josh: but I think that they're also still having that metadata or whatever. That's why Jack obviously was posting about Signal. But they, um, I did also notice that, uh, Elon Musk did a tweet telling people, uh, use Signal, and then a different company called Signal that's publicly listed. Their stock went through the roof because people thought, oh, what does Signal do? Did you find out? Anyway, so the pet food business killing it. So anyway, there's— Yeah, I'm off. I'm off WhatsApp.

37:48

Tommy: Yeah, but because of that, I didn't have it downloaded anyway.

37:52

Josh: I find it— Okay.

37:53

Tommy: I just see what you mean. Using WhatsApp, we were communicating with the grumps. Yeah.

37:57

Josh: Yeah.

37:57

Tommy: We'll find our feet. It's a new year. Yeah. It's, you know, finding our footing in a nice pair of Crocs.

38:04

Josh: Right.

38:04

Tommy: Beautiful. That's right. Get yourself some.

38:06

Josh: It's going to be great. Send us an email and let us know what you've been up to. hi@thedailytalkshow.com. The other announcement whilst it is Saturday today. Yeah. Starting from— this is the final weekend where we're going to do weekend shows.

38:22

Tommy: Yeah. And then from Monday we'll be doing Monday to Friday. Going forward.

38:27

Josh: So it means that you guys can keep up to date. I spoke to Scooter, Scooter Derek, on the phone. Oh yeah, he was annoyed that we'd already started back because he said that the kids are still on school holidays and it makes it hard for him.

38:41

Tommy: Well, look, you work it into your weekly routine. You can have a cheat day and it's just the weekends. Yeah, but you're back to Monday to Friday, it's us.

38:48

Josh: Exactly. It's a daily talk show. We'll see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

38:51

Tommy: See you guys.

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