Living With Each Other

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 928.

Tommy: It is Weekend Banter. GM Jess, otherwise known as Whip, Mr. 97, we're all here.

Josh: And Jessica Lucas, you are back in, uh, your place in Metro Melbourne. How is it to be, uh, out of Geelong? Sorry, not Geelong, Bendigo.

Jess: You went to—

Josh: I went to Geelong.

Jess: Same, same. Yeah, Bendigo was great. I was happy to come back and regroup, have some alone time, and I'm going back this weekend to see everyone again. So, it's good to have the option of having alone time versus family time.

Tommy: What's the best thing about living by yourself?

Jess: Just doing what I want, you know, not having to— not having someone talk to you. Like if you're in a mood or whatever, or like you just want to— 'cause I'm actually quite introverted. You probably don't think that, but I like my alone time.

Tommy: You've said it enough that I am thinking it.

Jess: And so, but being at home, it was like Mum and Dad were everywhere. My sister was there, her boyfriend was there. The only time you could actually get alone time was when you went to your bedroom.

Josh: Is there anything— is the bedroom sort of well set up? Like, could you spend hours in the bedroom?

Jess: I don't like spending— I wouldn't want to do that, but it's a good bedroom. It's fine. I don't have anything other than a bed. There's like a chest of drawers and a pouffe and that's it.

Josh: You could read a book.

Jess: I could read a book if I wanted to, yeah. Yes.

Tommy: Yeah. Now, I've lived by myself. I lived in my studio. It was lonely at times. You're very in your own head. But it's better than living— I think what you're saying, Jessie, is The version of living with nightmare housemates, because I have done that too, and it just—

Jess: You have one now, apparently.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I love him more than anything, which is weird. Um, no, it's good, but otherwise he'd be gone. But no, like, oh God, I remember living just with a guy who had a dog, big greyhound. He was a lovely guy, but the dog would just shit out the back and you couldn't go out there, it was so bad. He just didn't clean it up. And then you don't want to have the awkward convo like, mate, clean your shit up, because I'd come into his share house. So there's, you know, you could have that combo though.

Josh: It feels like in the scheme of convos, that's a pretty easy one. Yeah, if he's shitting on the bowl, that's annoying, but the dog shit outside, it's not very— it's like, it's not a personal attack. It's like, mate, I'm about to stand on one of these shits, and if I do, you're gonna have to buy me a new pair of Asics.

Jess: I'm with you.

Tommy: But Josh, imagine living with someone that— So, you don't get along with everyone. I think you can get along with everyone. But no, I don't get along with everyone in terms of a connection, like a vibe. I have, you know, a lot of people in the workplace, like you guys I love, but you know, you work with some people, but you're like, I just work with them, nothing else. I wouldn't fucking hang out with them ever. That's not what you get to— You don't get to choose that if you're going into a blind house, you know, like you're just going in blind.

Josh: You're making it out like it's a reality show where you like— Don't you have an interview or a conversation with them first?

Tommy: Yeah, but everyone's doing their best. What coffee do you drink? Long black? You know, it's like bullshit. It's a long time.

Jess: No, no, no. In London.

Tommy: Big cappuccino with, you know, a pump of caramel. You absolute animal. What happened in London?

Jess: Well, we do interviews for rooms and that kind of stuff. And so this couple that I know did the most outrageous interviews to make sure that they would get along with their future housemate because they had to come party with us. Like they had to be part of that culture, I suppose, that we had over there.

Josh: Okay. Sick units.

Jess: It's, I mean, the question was, why are you in London otherwise? No, no, no. It really, what someone says to this question says a lot about someone.

Josh: Okay, go.

Jess: Here we go.

Tommy: No, we all have to answer it. How about that?

Jess: Okay, done.

Josh: Can I start? Yeah, we don't know the question.

Jess: Yeah, if you really want to. Would you fuck your mum to save your dad?

Tommy: Oh wow. I regret this game. I regret we should have played this game. Mum, turn off.

Josh: That's a bit of trivia, isn't it?

Tommy: Let's call Lynn Jansen to find out.

Josh: That is a really That is a fucked up question.

Jess: It's fucked up, isn't it? But the thing is, if you don't laugh and you get offended by it, you know that you don't want them in your house.

Tommy: Oh, if you're taking it too seriously, like, mm, okay.

Jess: Oh, so that as well. There's two spectrums. They're taking it seriously and actually thinking about it, or two, they get offended by it and therefore they didn't align to our values.

Mason: So what's the right answer?

Jess: That's not the right word.

Tommy: Well, Mason. That's what do you think the right answer? I think it's about what you—

Josh: No, no, no, it's hard because—

Tommy: No, Mason, the right answer is the response being however you deliver it. So, the thing is it's a test on the personality. The answer is really redundant because you could laugh and go, "Fuck, no way." What's a good reply?

Josh: I think a funny reply is if there's multiple people, you say, Actually, no, it's too full on. No, it's all good.

Tommy: So you'd get in if you—

Josh: No, no, no, no, no, no. I think I was going to say, oh no, but I would have sex with Mason's mum to save his dad.

Jess: Well, that's what you'd do.

Tommy: No, but what about this? What about—

Josh: It's funny, everyone laughed.

Tommy: Everyone laughed. What about if my dad— What about if your dad was willing to die so it didn't happen? You know, like that's— He was okay with it.

Josh: It was like, I mean, what situation are you in?

Tommy: You're not in—

Jess: well, look, well, I mean, you brought up the fucking Human Centipede the other day.

Josh: Oh yeah, that's true.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that wasn't on the show though, Jess.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it's good gear though.

Tommy: Blurred lines between what happens on the show and off the show. But, um, what did you answer? Because you probably went through that to get in.

Jess: Well, no, I wasn't in that house, so I didn't have to. But I mean, I didn't actually have to interview anyone for the rest of my stay in that apartment, in mine. So, I wish I had the chance to use it and I wish I was part of that interview process.

Josh: I don't think, I see the thing is, I think that you could get away with it. I think that if it was any of us asking that question, we would be cancelled. You'd 100% be cancelled.

Jess: Why?

Josh: It's like, oh my God, those sleep, like, just it has that sort of.

Tommy: What if it was a girl?

Josh: If there was, yeah, well, no, just. Don't you think?

Jess: No, because there was guys in the house. It was part of the interview.

Josh: It's like, if you don't get that info— 1997, '98?

Jess: 2019.

Josh: 2019.

Jess: 2019, yeah.

Josh: Real, real pushback. No, you can't. You can't ask. You can't ask.

Tommy: No, but I think you can ask that because it's clearly outrageous. It's clearly fucking— I— do you think they would have done it if they somehow had a prim and proper, you know, Australian or English person that came in? And, you know, they seem very meek and not out there.

Josh: What's a good question? Like, if we were to come up with an actual good question, TJ, what do you think a good question to ask?

Tommy: I think I would ask you, do you like chores? And you're like, I'm the chores guy. And then I'd be like, fucking great, live with me. And then you'd be like, don't do shit around the house, and we'd have to kick you out. So my point is that The bit is what you hear from them could be just complete bullshit. So, this is the thing. So, who have I lived with? I've lived with my mate Matt, who we worked well together. We worked really well together.

Josh: What does that mean?

Tommy: Just it's team. If you've got a housemate—

Jess: Same TV shows, same dinners, mix it up. It's not your partner.

Tommy: It's you need to think about that, Josh. You've never lived with anybody other than your family.

Josh: If you had to, TJ, if you had to pick someone in our team, out of Jess, Mase, GB, or myself to live with, who would you pick?

Tommy: Yeah, good question. Great question. Um, I would have sex with my mum. Sorry, that wasn't the question. Oh, fuck. No, no, no, no. Um, I, uh, I reckon Jess.

Josh: Uh-huh.

Tommy: Then, but so, yeah, he goes Jess, Mason, Josh.

Josh: What about George?

Mason: Poor GB.

Tommy: Oh, GB, sorry, I thought you just meant us on the show.

Jess: Surely GB takes my place.

Tommy: Um, yeah, you're right.

Josh: GB first.

Tommy: GB first. So laid back.

Jess: GB would be my first pick too.

Tommy: So laid back, and I'd have a bit more control over him than I do of you.

Mason: We did this on hump day, and I said GB as well.

Josh: Yeah. Oh, that's upsetting. What's wrong with me? What's wrong with me?

Mason: No, no, no, you just went in hump day. It was just everyone in hump day.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: Okay. Okay.

Jess: I think I chose Grace or GB in hump day. I can't remember. I think I chose Grace over anything else.

Mason: I think you chose Grace.

Tommy: Yeah. So the thing is, but I could just— you're clean, you're tidy, you're on top of things. It's definitely out of the 3 of us, 4 of us here.

Josh: Can I just sell myself in at least?

Tommy: Mace, you just don't have enough runs on the board in terms of—

Mason: Sure. No, fair enough. Yeah, it's like a credit card application.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: Mace, I do think that you would be great to live with, though.

Tommy: I do too.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: Thank you.

Jess: You would be up there.

Josh: And so, do you think that I would be fun?

Mason: Are you doing chores?

Josh: Yeah. So, the thing is, the thing is—

Jess: Based on our conversation this morning, no.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Okay. Okay.

Josh: What does that mean?

Jess: You literally told me about when Bri goes away.

Josh: Oh yeah, what did I say? I can't even remember.

Mason: Yeah, I mean, you leave just shit everywhere.

Josh: No, what I said was I was like, I'm not someone who operates in a neat way, but if Bri goes away, I'm like, within 3 days I'm like really pissed off. I don't know why, it's because there's shit everywhere and then I start to tidy up.

Mason: You cleaned 80% of it last time.

Jess: And it feels great.

Josh: Yeah, I got really, And I think that that was like 80% from a Bree standard is 100% for everyone else. Like, she runs a tight ship. But so from a— if I was to sell it in, this is what I'd say. Yeah, for one, the latest technology. So, think the bike, the exercise bike, that's going to be great. I'm also a minimalist outside, so I'll have a lot of books that you can read. But I am sort of a minimalist, so I'm not going to take up heaps of space. Potentially, I love the challenge of not having much storage at all. I could imagine culling my clothes down to just a few items.

Tommy: How's that a selling point? How is that a selling point?

Josh: Well, because I don't take up much room in people's houses.

Jess: Can we just flag that none of these are personality qualities at all?

Josh: Okay. So, the personality qualities. So, I'm fun. I'm definitely fun. I think I'm like a— I'm respectful of people's space, but also, uh, yeah, personality traits is hard, isn't it? But the exercise bike's good and, um, Apple TV is great. A lot of subscriptions, Stan. Netflix.

Jess: Josh, you say you're a minimalist, but you've got— look at your bloody tech setup.

Josh: But it's—

Mason: but so, hang on, that's minimalism versus like Well, physical versus digital, that's another thing. They don't take up space. They don't take up space, digital. But I mean, the other thing— so I reckon, Josh, if we live together, we would be the biggest enablers, just, just tech-wise. We'd just be buying freaking everything.

Josh: Yeah. Would we have smart lights?

Mason: Yes, we would have everything. Yeah, yeah, everything in the house. The blinds would be automatic.

Josh: Like, it'd just be It'd be nice.

Mason: Would buy smart dishwasher. Like, yeah, just get a bit outrageous.

Josh: It'd be great. Yeah, the smart fridge. Bree and I actually looked at the smart fridge.

Tommy: It's just silly. How smart are they?

Josh: Yeah, they're actually dumb. They're basically like an Android tablet stuck into a— With a camera. Yeah, stuck into the fridge. They work very poorly. Like, they—

Tommy: You put an iPad Pro on there with heavy, heavy packet Yeah, just a magnet or whatever. Definitely Velcro. Thanks, Ace. Jess, who would you live with out of the 3 of us? 4 of us?

Jess: Just the 3 of you? GV's not included?

Josh: No, no, GV. He's pissed me off.

Jess: We know everyone wants to fucking live with GV because he's just so chill and happy. Imagine living with those vibes. I was, um, it's hard to say. Probably Mason. Probably Mason out of you three.

Mason: What are my pros and cons?

Josh: Can I just say that you're picking someone like who's going to be less, the least amount of integrated into your life. So, the reason why you're picking Mason is because you don't think that he's good. Yeah, you don't think that he's going to have much impact on the actual life. But if you actually had to— That's right.

Mason: If you actually had to design a roommate, surely—

Josh: No, no, no. The thing is that if you had to pick like, you know what, my life, like, you know, the vibe, the friends of the housemate, like all of that stuff becomes a consideration as well.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: Actually, no.

Mason: What are you saying, Jess won't like the coconut crew?

Jess: Maybe this is TJ for drinks.

Josh: TJ for drinks.

Jess: I mean, I know you're not drinking at the moment, TJ, but like we could have a nice glass of red or something and beers and stuff on the weekend.

Tommy: I respect his decision to go with Mr. 97 based on There is something about the power in the house. Like, I feel like you would be the powerhouse of the house. Like, you could bring down the, you know, the run sheet of who's doing the dishes.

Josh: But that's the appeal for GB as well, isn't it? Like, that's why you picked GB. It's because the thing of him being chill is that you can tell him what to do.

Tommy: Exactly. No, not at all.

Jess: It's just more like, just go sit on the couch and just chat, you know. No, I mean, I could do that with all of you guys.

Tommy: I think it's almost like undertones of status.

Josh: Yeah, and the thing is, and like I can have a red wine. Like, why can't I have a glass of red?

Jess: Josh, I think, okay, I do see positives living with you, but the only negative I could see happening is you'd be like, I'm reading this book and you need to go read that right now because we need to have a conversation about it. And then we're going to spend the whole weekend talking about it. And I just, and you can get on your bike and do 5 hours and then we'll go for a walk and then I'm having tea.

Josh: So you're worried that I'll sort of manage it all?

Jess: No, I just, you just, it'd just be the book thing. The conversations would be too intellectual for me.

Mason: It's the book, the bike and the Apple TV.

Tommy: It's all your selling points.

Jess: Your TV choices probably wouldn't align with mine.

Josh: Have you got Amazon Prime?

Tommy: Jess actually, she She watches TikTok streaming from her phone on TV. Oh, she said she spends hours.

Jess: Is it true? Yeah, there's been like 2 or 3 nights in lockdown, guys. I had nothing else to do.

Josh: Come on, 2 or 3 nights isn't crazy.

Jess: Yeah, I haven't done it. I don't do it that often.

Josh: And what are you hoping for?

Tommy: In what?

Josh: When you're watching it, like, what's the vibe? You sad?

Jess: You just laugh, don't you?

Mason: Are you having a wine?

Josh: Oh, sorry. No, no, no. Well, I haven't. I got rid of TikTok. I'm actually a fail videos. I love like searching fail videos.

Tommy: Josh, I will say that was some fun when we've spent some time together.

Josh: Oh, that was good.

Tommy: Electric seat, you know, rope on a skateboard.

Mason: We watched them when in LA, didn't we?

Josh: Yeah, we probably—

Tommy: yeah, probably.

Josh: I mean, I would— so the thing is, it would be the bit that you would struggle with, Jess, is the, um, the country thing. Yeah, undies on the floor. No, um, uh, no, because I'm a minimalist, I will have to borrow your clothes. No, the country themes. Like, I do get into sort of, I go through these waves where it's like, okay, yeah, we're going to do England. What happened to Iran? Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. Oh, we could do Persian food. That would be a great thing.

Tommy: I found a Persian restaurant near, in Templestowe. Yes. I literally saw it.

Josh: It also has a, has it got a supermarket attached to it?

Tommy: I didn't see that. It looks pretty dingy anyway, but the food smelt good.

Josh: Oh, great.

Tommy: And people looked happy in there, so. I think that's where it should go.

Josh: My mate got the like coal barbecue, like the Coles barbecue thing potentially. Not as in Coles as in Coles Woolworths, but as in—

Mason: Was it Tehran, TJ? Tehran Persian?

Tommy: Yeah, it's in the plaza, like the main—

Josh: Tehran is the capital?

Tommy: I think maybe. I don't know. It looks like they've converted an office into a restaurant. Just—

Josh: That's good.

Tommy: Because I walked past there when we were in lockdown, nothing was open. Everything was just just deserted for so long. And then I walked past on Saturday night last weekend, pumping. Bodhi and I went to get an ice cream. It was heaving, the whole area.

Josh: What do you think if we had to write a Hinge profile for Tommy? What do you think? What would you put on it?

Mason: Dad.

Jess: Fun-loving.

Mason: Dad.

Josh: Great dad. Great dad and husband. Um, what would you say? What would you say, TJ? What do you think you'd put on?

Tommy: What would I say? See, here's the thing, I would go so minimal. I wouldn't be— I literally wouldn't— I don't even know. Fuck, I don't know what I mean. You're putting him into your mindset.

Jess: You don't write a profile on Hinge anyway, okay?

Tommy: Okay, okay. But what do you do?

Josh: So what about like Tinder? Let's just say I just said the Hinge because I was trying to be cool.

Mason: Dating app profile.

Josh: Dating app profile. What do you—

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: Okay. Well, TJ, what would you put on it? Like, what's it— You need to put your personality.

Tommy: Can you just— I need some reference.

Jess: Yeah, I'll give you some of the questions.

Josh: She's just going to copy and paste.

Tommy: Oh, is this what—

Josh: So, hang on.

Tommy: Do they ask questions? They're not— It's not a written profile. It's not like a bio. Fun.

Jess: No. Well, that, as Josh said, it's the— On Bumble and Tinder, you write a bio and then on Hinge, you have questions to answer.

Tommy: Actually. Here it is.

Jess: Yeah.

Mason: Traps, 9 out of 10.

Tommy: No, no, no. TV's Tommy Jacket.

Josh: TV's Tommy Jacket.

Tommy: Not even on TV, but it's funny.

Josh: That is funny.

Tommy: So, you ask questions. So, there's questions, not a profile. Okay, go. What are the questions?

Jess: Okay. Maybe we could go through 3 and you all have to answer what yours would be. Because we have 3 questions that you need to answer on your Hinge profile.

Tommy: And then we can all answer if you'd Sleep with your mum to save your dad. All right, go.

Jess: Okay, question. Dating me is like... Mason?

Mason: Dating me is, I think it's fun.

Jess: You're not that convincing just yet.

Tommy: I mean, this is where you can just spit in the bush.

Josh: I think I would say like eating a tub of Greek yogurt. That's what I'd say.

Mason: What does that mean? It's healthy for you? Bit of gut bacteria?

Tommy: I think it's annoying because you always want the sweet one.

Jess: And I'd come back and say like, what, yo play? That's a good opener.

Josh: Great, okay, perfect. And tell me what else, TJ, what was yours?

Tommy: Um, fuck, I don't know. I'd leave it blank. I mean, these are like 100 different questions, I'm just picking fun, spontaneous And, um, oh no, you will laugh.

Jess: Out of all of those answers, swiping right on Josh?

Josh: You will laugh. Oh my God.

Tommy: Okay, mate, I let the profile pick the words.

Josh: Yeah, go, go, next.

Jess: Okay, um, I bet you can't...

Josh: I bet you can't eat an entire tub of yogurt.

Tommy: Yogurt heavy. What if they're fucking lactose intolerant?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, well, that's something. I'm right, it's a filter. Yeah, it's, it's your filter. I bet, uh, I bet you can't, um, I bet you can't. Come on, TJ, you do one.

Tommy: Do a standing backflip, because then you get girls who can, and then you're like, fuck, they're gymnasts.

Josh: So you're trying to filter just for gymnasts?

Tommy: I don't know, that's all that comes to mind.

Josh: Uh, okay.

Mason: Figure out what a CDN is. That's mine.

Josh: Yeah, that's good. That's right. You are hot. Yeah, also. All right, third.

Jess: Um, I'll introduce you to my family if—

Josh: if we have to.

Jess: If I'm forced to go to the family for Christmas. I don't want to set you guys up. Fuck my mom, obviously. Um, if loving this is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Tommy: If loving this is wrong, I don't want to be right. Um, yeah, because then you need to find something like, uh, eating peanut butter with a spoon.

Josh: Oh my, you are such a basic bitch. What were you going? Go on, Josh, where are you gonna go? So what is it?

Jess: Loving this is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Josh: Loving this is wrong. Don't want to be right.

Mason: So, something that you love.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So, it's like if you were— Your guilty pleasure or something.

Josh: So, Jess and I have the same problem, which is like we go to food as our gear and we can't— They can't all be food answers. If loving this is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Tommy: Midnight snacks.

Josh: Yeah, I know. Yeah, no, but it's too easy. It's too easy.

Mason: Scrolling on OzBargain.

Josh: Yeah, you lost me.

Mason: It's a great filter though.

Josh: Easy. So no, but then you're gonna get like— I don't want to get someone who's too pedantic when it comes to money. Jess, loving this is wrong.

Tommy: Question: have you been on— have you been on dates with guys that have answered well, that you're like, that's fucking clever or well thought through, and then they're absolute duds?

Jess: Um, I'm not that I can remember. Tommy, my dating life is not—

Tommy: Okay, you're not the right person at the moment. I feel like, I feel like there would be more people who could string together some good bio than there is good people.

Mason: For sure. But people spend hours on that. Like, if you spent like, you know, how many people are just doing it on the fly like that? That's a thing that people invest time into.

Tommy: I mean, what people are looking for is The fucking featured Tinder profile in BuzzFeed. That vibe. That's what everyone's vying for. Clever, witty, smart, funny.

Jess: So, this guy said, if nothing else is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Josh: I was just trying to find— I saw something. Our mate Keegs did a tweet a couple of days ago where he was like, has anyone got that feeling where it's like you've had really good banter with someone on a dating app, but then you are worried to meet because you think you're going to be underwhelming. I feel like there is definitely the risk in being like— I, I think banter-wise, I think unbeatable. I think that you are—

Tommy: I can text just—

Josh: Yeah, yeah. So you— But I think in person I could be banter too. But I think the thing is like, what is going to be my downfall is obviously my My physicality maybe is not sort of—

Jess: Oh, stop it. No, this is what you need to do. You need to be a Kinder Surprise.

Josh: Oh, stop it.

Jess: Well, we're just not entertaining that. Being a Kinder Surprise is where it's at. You've got to under-promise and over-deliver.

Josh: Under— Kinder Surprise.

Jess: And surprise and delight kind of thing.

Tommy: So, that's why I like to— I would like to go real minimal in my profile.

Josh: What do you think, Mason? What do you— What's your approach? You look like you're really thinking.

Mason: Oh, no, no, I was actually— no, well, I was actually just on, um, I was just reading through a Reddit page with like Tinder profiles on it.

Jess: And I'm just really grateful. Well, there's not much to go on these apps. I found great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Mason: Yeah, find yourself a podcast would be my bio.

Josh: Oh yeah, I think, um, something that you love that you don't, um—

Jess: so that guy had hot Twiggy sticks. Like, Twinkies are disgusting.

Mason: What are Twinkies?

Tommy: What's hot Twinkie sticks?

Josh: Thank you, Bray, for the coffee.

Tommy: Surprised you got that, to be honest. Your behaviour around the household.

Mason: Oh yeah, hot Twinkie sticks.

Tommy: What is a hot— a Twinkie stick is though?

Mason: It's a seasoned pork cooked, smoked, and dried.

Tommy: I mean, I'd probably pick at it if I was walking past a butcher giving away a freebie.

Josh: I know what it is.

Tommy: All right, fucking sweet.

Josh: I know what my answer is. The, if it's wrong, I don't want it to be right. It's food though, but it would be—

Mason: Classic.

Josh: Scooping, scooping dip. It's a bit confusing though, isn't it? Scooping dip. What does that mean? But like eating too much dip, finishing a tub of dip.

Mason: I love dip. Love dip.

Tommy: The problem is you—

Jess: I would finish a tub of dip.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. See, I think what you're looking for is someone who doesn't do what you do in the dip department. Jamie doesn't do it. Does Bree do it? Does Bree dip?

Josh: No, Bree doesn't have that much dip, no.

Tommy: Yeah, so I think it's— I think you've found your one. When you can find someone who's the opposite dipper of you, yeah, you've found the one.

Mason: What's the, um, what's the deal with going, um, in your Tinder profile funny and banterous like that versus leading with all your quirks?

Josh: What do you mean?

Mason: What do you reckon? Which one's better? Do you reckon leading with all your quirks is a better in?

Josh: So the quirks would look like—

Tommy: I don't know, just being outrageous, like, you know, hi Karen, I use my phone in the shower.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Tommy: Okay, okay, Mason, what's—

Mason: what was the question you just asked, Jess? What was that, um, that hinge question? Yeah, using your phone in the shower.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh yeah, I like that, you know what I mean? Just like, I think that's relatable. God's same.

Jess: I don't know, in the toilet.

Josh: Taking a— there's a 70% chance I'm taking a dump right now. What about like if I'm online, I'm taking a dump?

Tommy: What about— how would you feel about that? If this is wrong, I don't want to be—

Josh: that's what got you, Mason. This— the sex with your mum wasn't— didn't gross you out, but the poo did. Everyone poos. Yeah, you—

Tommy: um, sitting down while peeing.

Josh: Oh yeah.

Mason: Oh yeah, I love that.

Jess: If I was a guy, that's exactly what I would do.

Josh: And so, but do you love that inner guy?

Tommy: Like if I had that in my profile? Would you put it in your arsenal?

Josh: I feel like TJ can get away with that.

Jess: I wouldn't have thought about it, to be honest.

Josh: I think if I was the yoghurt, if I was the Greek yoghurt dude and then sitting on the toilet, I think it's stupid.

Mason: It's definitely red flags.

Josh: I think there's like, it's a real vibe.

Tommy: That is funny.

Josh: Do you know something interesting that I discovered? So, I did a... Greek yoghurt. No, talking about all the books and stuff, and I was thinking about like facts and pulling out facts. Did you read my backpacking fact that I left you with, Sev's?

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: About the word backpacking?

Mason: Yeah, that it wasn't in the Oxford Dictionary and the book was written before it was even in there.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So, 1974, the book that I put a book out for Sev Sarayd, it was all about like backpacking.. And in the foreword, it said backpacking is not in the Oxford Dictionary. Like, it wasn't in the Oxford Dictionary. This book was from 1974. And so, I just thought that that's a fun fact. In 19— From 1974, like before that time, backpacking wasn't in the dictionary. Wasn't a thing.

Tommy: Is that crazy? Who came up— I mean, he seems to have—

Jess: He coined it.

Tommy: Was it used by him?

Josh: I just got vertigo. That's very weird. My ears are all funny.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: You okay?

Tommy: He's holding his nose. He's trying to do that thing on when you're on a jet plane, you see children do.

Josh: One, two, one, two, one, two. It's weird. Anyway, we better go. I think I'm having a panic attack. Thank you, Jess. Thank you, Sev. Everyone enjoy your Sunday and we'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one.

Tommy: See you guys.