We chat about Public Holidays in Australia, have our beauty questions answered by Gemma Watts, the craziness of 2020, and we read an email from Charlotte.
Show Notes
At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –Victoria is the only state with a Melbourne Cup public holiday, while other states/territories have their own regional public holidays.
- –Laser resurfacing peels the top layer of skin to trigger cell turnover, while microdermabrasion is a physical exfoliation method and vampire facials create micro-injuries to stimulate skin renewal.
- –Prolonged mask-wearing can cause or worsen pimples, rosacea, dryness and dermatitis by altering the skin's humidity and temperature environment.
- –House auctions moved to Zoom during COVID, with most attendees keeping cameras off and only a handful actually placing bids.
- –The word 'geek' originally referred to circus sideshow performers in the early 1900s and only took on its tech-savvy meaning in the 1980s.
Questions this episode answers
Why does only Melbourne/Victoria get a Melbourne Cup public holiday?
Tommy explains that Australia has 7 national public holidays recognised across all states, but each state also has its own additional public holidays—Melbourne Cup Day is specific to Victoria, similar to how AFL Grand Final day is also a Victoria-only holiday.
Does wearing a mask cause skin problems like pimples?
According to guest Gemma Watts, yes—masks create a new environment on the skin by changing humidity, temperature and sun exposure all at once, which can cause pimples, rosacea, dryness and dermatitis.
What is the difference between microdermabrasion, laser resurfacing and vampire facials?
Gemma Watts explains that laser resurfacing uses lasers to peel the top skin layer and trigger cell turnover, microdermabrasion is a physical exfoliation method, and vampire facials create a micro-injury on the face to stimulate the skin's natural healing and renewal process.
Episode TranscriptShow
Josh: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 902.
Tommy: What is happening? What's going on, JJ? How are you?
Josh: Happy Tuesday, everyone. It is a public holiday here in, uh, here in Melbourne.
Tommy: Well, yeah, it is only Melbourne because, I mean, Melbourne I feel like takes the piss. We take a lot of public holidays.
Josh: We've got public holidays then because obviously we have the AFL Grand Final. This is a Melbourne Cup holiday, but surely all the other states are having the— an equal amount of holidays.
Tommy: Yeah, well, it makes sense. I just wrote, what state has the most public holidays in Australia? How many holidays does each state have? Australia celebrates 7 national public holidays that are recognised in each of the 8 states and territories. However, each state also has its own public holidays that they recognise in their region. So it's like the, um, The Grand Final day is another one that Australia has— oh, sorry, Melbourne as a state just got around.
Josh: Victoria.
Tommy: Yeah, sorry, Victoria as a state, and they, uh, and no one else gets it. And so, I mean, this is one of those ones as well. Melbourne Cup only in Victoria. Although when I met Amy, she was doing at her work where she, she used to work in an orthodontic clinic They did a Melbourne Cup thing. And so—
Josh: In New South Wales?
Tommy: In New South Wales. I was like, fuck, mate, I'm not even doing anything for the Melbourne Cup.
Josh: What's your preference public holiday-wise? So this lands on a Tuesday. You can have your Monday, your Friday. What's your perfect public holiday day?
Tommy: Oh, as in, are you the option of a Monday or a Friday? Because they're usually the options.
Josh: Tuesday, Monday, or Friday.
Tommy: Um, I reckon, I reckon a Monday. There's something about a Sunday knowing you don't have to do work on the Monday.
Josh: It feels— Fridays are good. Fridays are good. And then you have a shorter week as well.
Tommy: Great vibe on a Friday. You're fired up for the weekend. So, you know, you could start having a bevvy at 3 PM in the office and then the weekend starts. You know, then you're into it.
Josh: I mean, so, I mean, you're, you're not doing bevvies at the moment. What are you going to do? That's trying to sound cool, mate.
Tommy: I just want to sound real cool. Don't try it, um, mate. No, baby. Uh, man, I'm too, I'm too self-conscious to go out. I've had a pimple on my fucking lip for 4 weeks.
Josh: It's not a cold sore?
Tommy: No, it's not a fucking cold sore. Thanks for saying that, mate.
Gemma: What's the—
Josh: no, I'm not.
Tommy: I'm just, I'm just being silly when I say I'm self-conscious about it, but I genuinely need your advice as a guy that I feel has probably had a pimple that's lasted for months.
Josh: Yeah, essentially. Have you, have you? Probably the ingrown, like the, the neck ingrown, I think stayed for like a few weeks.
Tommy: I've just had this thing on the corner of my lip. I cannot Like, I was thinking, oh sure, this is the— literally have had it for weeks, weeks and weeks.
Josh: Is it because you're, um, you're lacking vitamin C? That's what mum used to always say.
Tommy: No, no, no, no, no, dude, it's not anything to do with the crack.
Josh: It's not like it's a crack or anything.
Tommy: Yeah, it's a fucking pimple that gets pus in it. And I mean, I was watching, I was watching something on TV and I was like, it was like, no, it was, it was a photo up close of an actor I was like, imagine what I'd be doing this— this would be hell for me right now if I was this guy getting up close photos of me. It'd be hell.
Josh: I mean, on the skin thing, uh, is it microdermabrasion? There's, there's, there's a skin thing. Dave Hughes had something done. No, dude, I thought that he, um— I was like, oh, what's wrong with Dave Hughes? And he's just had a skin treatment. Have you seen it?
Tommy: I thought He'd fallen asleep with foil around his face, getting that much sunlight that his face was about to fall off with how burnt it was. And then I saw this, Josh, and I heard your partner Bree talking about this. I said, oh my God, that's that bloody— that's that skin burn thing.
Josh: Oh, has he done it for skin cancer?
Tommy: No, has he?
Josh: I don't know, I'm just reading the articles.
Tommy: Well, it's like a— it's a— A treatment. I mean, this is now a beauty podcast.
Josh: Is it microdermabrasion? Is that right?
Tommy: I think that is something. This is where we need Gemma Watts. But what you're talking about is like a burn to the— like they peel off a layer of your skin.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Should we call Gemma Watts in?
Josh: I can actually just tell you what it is based on the— we can give Gemma a call. Should we give her a call? Hang on.
Tommy: Let's just see if we get— I reckon she'd know. She'd be across. The Hughesy thing as well. Hughesy is a comedian, radio presenter in Australia. Just a bit of a reset there for old Hughesy. Used to live across the road from him actually in St Kilda.
Josh: That's a good, good bit of, uh, info. Do you reckon he says the same thing about you?
Tommy: Oh, absolutely not. I, I met him once with somebody and he forgot me within 2 seconds.
Josh: Okay, and so I've connected it up. Here we go.
Tommy: Beauty podcast.
Gemma: G'day.
Josh: Oh, Gemma Watts. It's Tommy and Josh from the Daily Talk Show. How are you?
Gemma: Sorry, from the what?
Josh: From the Daily Talk Show, the number one podcast.
Tommy: Beauty podcast.
Josh: In the world.
Gemma: From the— sorry, did you say from the Daily Show?
Josh: Yes, yeah, we're from the Daily Show.
Tommy: That's it? We'll take it.
Josh: And we're from the Daily— New York Times, we're the Daily.
Gemma: Wow. Oh my God, how did you get this number?
Tommy: Gemma, uh, we're doing a beauty segment and, um, it fell short, so we needed to call you. Um, I mean, did you say zip me? Because I— no, no, no, I, um, I need to ask you something personally about my face. But we wanted to— Josh was mentioning David Hughes, the comedian. Have you seen what he did to his face?
Gemma: No. Do I want to see what he did to his face?
Josh: Well, it's like, it's that, um, a thing where they laser and it's like square laser thing and they do it and it like peel the— your face peels like liver. What do you know?
Gemma: Okay, well that's fine.
Josh: Do you know what it's called? It's not like a face peel, it's something else. But I watched all these—
Gemma: laser resurfacing.
Josh: Laser resurfacing.
Tommy: Laser resurfacing. It's kind of like just, you know, digging up the bitumen out the front then relaying it.
Gemma: Essentially that, and equally as glamorous and fun. Um, but there are so many different types of laser, but if the skin's peeling, basically what they do is there are different lengths of the lasers and they get down further, like into the dermis of the skin, and it triggers cell turnover. So the peeling is the top layer of the skin. Basically, it's like, imagine a snake shedding its skin and then you're just left with like fresh baby skin. I've never done the peeling one because it's just like very hectic and I prefer it like less invasive approach. But there's, I mean, there's a lot of science there. You just look like a psycho for a little while.
Josh: And so is that microdermabrasion or is that something else?
Gemma: No, very different. So microdermabrasion is like, you're basically, oh, how do I describe it? It's almost like, um, not quite the same as needling, but microdermabrasion is a form of physical exfoliation. I actually— it's super popular, but I hate it just because my skin doesn't like it. I think it's just a bit too much, but it's basically just like a way of deeply exfoliating the skin.
Tommy: What else have you got for me? A vampire facial. I've seen that knocking about. What is that?
Gemma: Yes, okay, so vampire facials are amazing. There are different versions of it, but basically imagine, say you get like a cut or a scrape and the blood rushes to the surface of the skin and then the skin heals itself really quickly. This is another way of triggering that cell renewal and that cell turnover. So basically you're creating a micro injury on the face and then the skin is healing itself. So you end up with healthier skin.
Josh: You lost me at micro injury. I don't need that in my life. I've got enough micro injuries.
Tommy: Josh, you any— any other—
Gemma: Really, that's just how any, like, most facial treatments are. Even just using a scrub, it's sort of like it all falls under the umbrella of like a micro trauma.
Josh: And so if, if we think about a sunburn as like a micro trauma, how do we know that these things aren't causing skin cancer?
Gemma: Because UV rays can get far, far, far deeper into the skin and they cause cellular and DNA damage. So something like a short pulse laser, which is what you get from a machine, that's not getting as far into the skin nor does it cause DNA damage. So when you get— the short version is with the sun, you've got UVA, UVB, and UVC rays. We don't worry about UVC 'cause it doesn't actually hit the Earth, but if you were, say, travelling to the sun, then you might have an issue. UVA and UVB do travel down to Earth, but, um, you only really get those rays from the sun. So like a laser machine or even something that you use at home won't have it.
Josh: Okay.
Tommy: Um, uh, one other thing. Do you think the, the, um, conspiracy theory about Melania Trump having a double is real or not? Just throwing in a real spanner into the works.
Gemma: Yep, 100% real.
Josh: I didn't even know about this.
Tommy: Oh, it's the best.
Gemma: It's amazing.
Josh: Does she like him more than the real Melania?
Gemma: I mean, I got a lot of strong feelings about the Trump family, so I don't know that there's a way that I can answer this without letting my own personal bias get in the way.
Tommy: Look, I didn't want to get too far away from, you know, beauty, but the other thing is, we started the podcast and I was telling Josh that I've had a pimple for like at least 3 weeks on the corner of my lip, and I can't— I don't know why it keeps coming back. What am I doing wrong? Help me, Gemma Watts.
Gemma: Potentially your mask. Would— have you ever had a pimple in that spot before?
Tommy: Well, I mean, in my lifetime, yes. I'm old, um, but of recent times, no.
Gemma: But it's not like a common spot for you to be getting it?
Tommy: I don't think so, no. I, I feel like it's just come and hasn't left.
Gemma: Yeah, wax and salicylic on there.
Tommy: What's that?
Gemma: There'll be something in your house with, um, with something acidic, ideally salicylic acid.
Josh: Is that—
Gemma: but it's basically everything that's going wrong with everyone's skin at the moment is because of the mask. But the whole mask thing isn't just pimples, it can be like rosacea, it can be dryness, it can be dermatitis, basically anything that can go wrong with the skin is going wrong with the skin and it's because of the masks. Because it's just creating an entirely new environment. Like environmental stresses are what cause so much of the damage that happens with our skin. And then you're essentially changing the humidity, the temperature, the amount of sun your skin's getting all in one hit. So your skin's like, what is happening? Oh yeah.
Josh: It's not great. And finally, this is the Melbourne Cup. Episode, what have you got planned? Like, uh, have you, have you got anything happening at the Watts household?
Gemma: Well, we can only have 2 people over. Jill and Bruce, true to form, have rationed their friends over the course of the racing carnival. So they had, they had 2 friends over on Friday. They had, we had 2 over on Saturday who we normally spend Derby Day with. They had 2 over yesterday. Um, Monday is a rest day, and then Tuesday they've got 2 more friends coming over. And then on Steak Day on Saturday, more friends.
Josh: Yeah, so nothing's changed. I wonder what the coverage is because there's going to be no fashion on the field because there's no people.
Gemma: Well, they're really pushing the fashions on the front lawn, which I think is a great fun way for people to get involved with the carnival. Do I think people are going to do it? Absolutely not. The whole joy of watching it from home is that you don't have to try. Yeah, I might pop a head— I put a headband on on Derby Day, but that really wasn't because of the races. It was just because I found it and I forgot that I had it, and I thought, you should put this on your head, Gem.
Josh: I mean, I feel like, um, fascinators, uh, your mum's big in the fascinators. How many fascinators do you reckon she has?
Gemma: Mum has— I actually can't even put a number on it. Mum's a fascinator person and I'm a hat person. I just think If you— if you wake up— this may be more for women— but if there's a reason for me to put a hat on, it's gonna be a good day because it means either the sun's out, maybe I'm going on a picnic, maybe it is the races. If you've got a hat on, you're gonna have a good time.
Josh: I agree.
Gemma: We're also gonna make a cocktail tomorrow that I had on the weekend, and I'm already desperate to recreate it. I think you would like it, JJ.
Josh: Oh, what is it?
Gemma: It was like It was lemon sorbet, limoncello, a bit of vodka, and a bit of Prosecco. So, it was very like tart, almost like a lemonade-y sort of smoothie, but delicious.
Tommy: Takes you right back to the Amalfi.
Josh: I mean, the thing with the fascinators too, like hats versus fascinators, more uses for hats.
Tommy: Fascinator is not a hat. Fascinator is a—
Josh: But this is the thing, like the— having a large collection of fascinators Are they?
Gemma: Yeah, you can only wear it to the races, whereas a hat—
Josh: weddings, people wear fascinators to weddings.
Gemma: As for a royal wedding, yes. To a normal pleb wedding, you would look like an absolute dickhead.
Josh: Okay, good to know.
Tommy: Oh, thank you, Gemma.
Josh: Anything else happening? How's house hunting going, uh, post-lockdown?
Gemma: We actually— we, um, I'll say it now, I didn't want to jinx it. We've been We bid at auction last week. We did not get the house, but what a rush.
Josh: Oh, that's exciting. And so were you actually at the auction or did you—
Gemma: No, it was a Zoom auction.
Josh: Whoa. It was, yeah. Gotta make sure that you're muted. And so what's the deal? How does it work?
Gemma: So you all have to be on mute. There are heaps of, you know how at a normal in-person auction there will just be like random people who want to basically just Perve. Yeah, there were— I reckon there were 42 people in the Zoom. Um, I reckon roughly 30 of them had their cameras switched off, and the auctioneer's like, if you're going to place a bid, pop your camera on. Most of them did not. And then I reckon there were probably 6 of us that actually placed a bid, but the whole thing was like, take yourself off mute when you're ready to bid. The woman that ended up getting the house was so confident she did not put herself on mute the whole time. She opened the bidding, unmuted herself, and then just sat back and just let it happen.
Josh: Wow.
Tommy: What were the— I mean, the 34 perverts with their cameras off, what were they for? Why were they there?
Gemma: This is the thing, because surely the only reason you would go and like have a perv at an auction is so you can walk through the house first. But I don't know, they were just hanging out. Maybe they heard, you know, Queen Gronk was going to pop a bit.
Josh: It would have been great if Hamish Blake came in and said, zoom for one more. I feel like that would have been a good one.
Gemma: Oh, that would have been good. Unless if he like accidentally popped in as, and then accidentally bought the house.
Josh: He would do that too.
Gemma: Again, like Hughie at the Block Auctions.
Josh: Oh yeah.
Gemma: I might just swing past Elise Knowles and Josh's house and see how it looks, and then bought it.
Josh: What's happening with it? I was speaking to— Bree was speaking to Hannah, who was saying George and her were watching The Block. I didn't even know The Block is still on. Are you watching it? What's happening?
Gemma: No, I've never watched it.
Josh: Yeah, I'm not.
Gemma: I can make something up if you'd like.
Josh: No, no, that's fine. But I just—
Gemma: The competition's really heating up.
Josh: Yeah. Well, surely they're, um, they're just not doing much if it was recorded during COVID Yeah, I think they had to shut down filming at some point.
Tommy: Oh, there's—
Gemma: I'm not even watching The Bachelorette, which is just— who am I? What have I become?
Josh: What are you watching?
Gemma: Uh, not a whole lot, if I'm honest. I took, um, Tully's advice and watched Emily in Paris.
Josh: Oh, how far did you get through?
Gemma: I mean, I'm just sort of, I have to be very, very drunk. Mum's quite enjoying it. I don't, I'm not, I don't understand. Every person she meets falls in love with her. She's terrible at her job. She hasn't bothered to learn the language. I feel a lot of feelings.
Tommy: If I can make a horrible suggestion for a film for you and your partner to watch, Gemma, it's called Holidate.
Gemma: Oh yeah, we've actually got that on our, um, to-watch list because I'm, I'm all about, um, I love Emma Roberts. They just added, um, Emma Roberts in Wild Child to Netflix, which is great because it's one of the worst films ever, but it's amazing, if that makes sense. You know, those terrible, terrible films that are so good. I was looking for it everywhere and it was only available on Amazon Prime if you get like the fancy person account. No thank you.
Josh: Will you be able to watch Jack Ryan? Jack Ryan? Do you know about Jack Ryan? Oh, that's great. You got Amazon Prime or no?
Gemma: No.
Josh: Oh, Chris does, so I mean technically yes I do, but yeah, you do Jack Ryan. Anyway, yeah, Tommy, Tommy, why does he have two first names? Yeah, well, yeah, I know, but Tommy's very into it.
Tommy: It's his Jack, I'm just annoyed that it's, um, they're filming third season, so it's, you know, it's a series, it's three, three seasons. Oh, they're filming the third season.
Josh: Do you think The Hills is coming back?
Gemma: Do I think The Hills is coming back? Well, aside from the, um, like the, the reboot season that they did this year.
Josh: Yeah, well, I don't, I don't know, because I was watching it, I was watching it, and then it just sort of ended. It didn't feel like a proper season, so I've been disappointed.
Gemma: I didn't watch it, but I watched Whitney Port's reaction videos to it, and she was like, I'm only in 30 seconds of this because, um, I'm married and have a child, and I'm not causing any drama. And the producers were like, oh, this is not going to be good television.
Tommy: Are you into Selling Sunset, Gemma?
Gemma: Oh yeah, I loved it.
Tommy: People are mostly obsessed with the girls.
Gemma: Architecture. I mean, Queen. Yeah, I just watched it like mostly on mute because I liked the houses.
Josh: Um, but yeah, tell me what's going on.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, different reason.
Gemma: Um, I guess the novelty of her being a crazy villain and like, you know, she's this big character, but she's also not a nice person. I feel like it's one thing to be like She's unapologetically herself, but she also like repeatedly bullies other cast members and tells things.
Josh: I don't get it. I, um, yeah, I saw someone do a post, uh, about like, yes, like cheque out like her Insta stories, and I was like, oh, I hate that. What, like she's such a nasty character.
Gemma: I don't understand how she's a fan. Yeah, I don't get it. I do not understand it. And she's not particularly well dressed if I'm—
Josh: No, it's a bit tacky, would you say?
Gemma: Yeah, there's a bit of that.
Josh: Good chat. Anyway, thank you for answering our beauty questions. That was great.
Gemma: Oh, I forgot that. I forgot. Feels like a lifetime ago.
Josh: It does, doesn't it? Isn't it crazy? Talking about a lifetime ago, like 2020, it's a bit ridiculous when you think about Uh, from January, think about how different it was in January.
Tommy: It's like crazy. 58 or 59 days until the end of the year. And oh my God, it was like, what, late— was it early March that it all started to happen? Next minute it's like 7 months has gone past.
Josh: And but Christmas didn't feel like it. Like our Christmas show, or even the episode in Kununurra Creek, was like just happened. We haven't really done anything since. That's the— like, we haven't left the house. Like, if we counted the amount of times we'd left the house since the Coonong Creek episode, for me it'd be like 5 times.
Gemma: I mean, you haven't missed a whole lot. It's just so crazy because it's like, it's the longest year ever, but it's also gone so quickly because there's been nothing to punctuate the year. There's no like, oh, we've got this coming up. Because we don't. Yeah, Gabby was like, what are you going to do for your birthday, Gem? And I was like, well, nothing, because I just don't know. Like, who knows what's going to happen in 33 weeks?
Josh: Surely a park. Surely there's some sort of parks.
Gemma: Well, that's what I'm thinking, guys. Save the day. Yeah, but again, who knows? I don't want to get excited about this.
Josh: I think you can.
Gemma: For sure we'd be having a pool party for Mr. 97. Yeah, can't bloody go in his house.
Josh: Yeah, it's very true. And also just, no, I'm not rig ready. Like, we'll have to give it— next year we'll do it.
Tommy: But in the past, COVID.
Josh: Yeah, exactly. But it's like, it's seriously— so, um, uh, Bree went to ANS Color, uh, to get, uh, me a new shirt, uh, yesterday. And, um, everyone's going in, everyone's getting like a few sizes up or whatever because just it's just a reality of, you know, sitting on your ass.
Tommy: I mean, I mean, I've— so I was just going to say the shirt. She bought your shirt without you trying it on. She nailed it.
Josh: Yeah, I mean, you've been dancing though, Gem, so you probably haven't seen the, seen the, the impact.
Gemma: Yeah, not quite, not quite.
Josh: Well, thanks for, uh, thanks Gemma for answering my call.
Gemma: I gotta get ready to go out for dinner now. I gotta make myself look like a human woman.
Josh: What are you gonna eat? You're gonna go— are you going to Taco Bell? Taco Bell.
Gemma: No, I haven't had taco in ages. Really? No, I'm going to Monty's.
Tommy: Oh yeah, I don't know about that.
Josh: I mean pizza.
Gemma: Oh yeah, North Fitzroy.
Josh: Oh great, oh yes, yeah, great. Well, enjoy. Uh, thanks.
Gemma: Enjoy.
Josh: Have a good one.
Gemma: Pleasure.
Josh: Bye-bye.
Gemma: Happy racing season. Yeah, it's the race that stops the nation.
Josh: Oh yes, but not everyone gets a public holiday.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, just some. Yeah, they get to stop more than others.
Gemma: I'll have to work tomorrow because all of my clients are in Sydney, so it's bullshit.
Josh: Just put on your do not disturb. Yeah, thanks, Gemma.
Tommy: Remember, thanks, Gemma.
Josh: Catch you, mate. Bye.
Tommy: Yep, put out Gemma Watts, ladies and gentlemen. Um, Josh, I was just looking up before, before we go, um, the— I mean, you've sort of called yourself a geek many times. I feel like Gemma is a Beauty geek, someone who knows a lot about something. Do you know the origins of the term geek?
Josh: No, I don't.
Tommy: I mean, you had a business called Melbourne Geek. Uh, so geek, they use a photo of Albert Einstein. He had a great moustache, by the way.
Josh: Moustache?
Tommy: Moustache. He had a great mo— I blend mo and then stash. Moustache. Um, The people whom we consider geeks today are certainly not the same people who we would have labelled geeks in the early 1900s. Back then, the word was used to describe not socially awkward tech-savvy individuals, but rather circus sideshow performers who bit the head off small living creatures.
Josh: This is—
Tommy: it was only in the 1980s that the word began to take on its current meaning. And by the 21st century it nearly lost its negative connotation altogether. How's that?
Josh: That's a good fact. That's a good fact.
Tommy: That's a fucking great fact. I love how words can change over time. They just started one thing. Well, now we're going to use something else.
Josh: What's, uh, one thing you don't see many of? I've noticed it because your mouse is a little bit noisy. Mouse pads. How many people do mouse pads nowadays? I remember like this, I, as a kid, I don't know why We just were so irresponsible with mouse pads. We would draw on them.
Gemma: Yeah, yeah.
Josh: Remember that? Why was that a thing?
Tommy: You know what I do?
Josh: Like, you'd never get them clean. The S. Did you do the S?
Tommy: Yeah, that was exactly it. The 3 lines, 3 lines, connect the dots and put the tips on the top and bottom.
Josh: It was seen as a bit of it, like, if you had a primo mouse pad without any, like, that was just insane. You would never say that. But there was also, um it would peel too. Remember you'd have like the blue thing and it would have like foam and it would always peel off and go shit. What?
Tommy: I mean, with mouse pads, maybe that is why, because they're so shit. I'm sure there is some bespoke business that's doing these mouse pads.
Josh: We should do—
Tommy: remember, did you ever get the ones with the gel lump for your wrist?
Josh: Well, I was just— I just remembered it. At a client, they had a mouse pad. It was a little bit blokey, this place, and they had a mouse pad and the, uh, that, that bulgy bit was a woman's breasts.
Gemma: Jesus.
Josh: So I'm not—
Tommy: I mean, I wouldn't have one myself, but Jesus.
Josh: Yeah, it's a different time, maybe. I mean, it was, it was probably 2007, so probably still not acceptable.
Tommy: Were you making a video for bloody men's You'd be surprised.
Josh: Uh, great. Oh God, uh, do we have emails? Have you got them up?
Tommy: Yeah, so we, we got what yesterday we're talking about how things are changing over in England and France, and we've got Charlotte who is a gronk. She's been listening for a little while. She said, happy end of lockdown. I'm so happy for you there. Great job with COVID I'm sure she's getting the— I mean, she might be hearing the reports unless she's just hearing what we've said on our show. She said, I wish we could say the same about France, but that's impossible as they're following laws, are thinking together. Sorry, I'm just reading, paraphrasing. Sorry, paraphrasing. Um, it's very different there for, for sure. There is so many more inhabitants in Europe, which makes everything even more complicated, and tourism being the first economical income in France. However, you go out of lockdown at the exact same time We're going back into lockdown again. Not funny, actually, but better to laugh. The situation is getting very annoying now. It's been so long and it feels like it'll never end. When am I going to come back to Melbourne again? She has a partner here that she met just before, I think it was last year before COVID and then she's been wanting to come back. So, poor thing, going back into lockdown in France.
Josh: Well, Charlotte, if you come to Melbourne, we'll have a profiterole.
Tommy: Yeah, she did school us on what a profiterole means. I'd love to go on a profiterole crawl. Forget a pub crawl.
Josh: Yeah, get around that. No, a chocolate éclair crawl. Chocolate.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, chocolate éclair crawl.
Josh: It's a daily talk show, guys. Uh, enjoy the rest of your day. If you enjoyed the show, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Also share it on Instagram as well. We always appreciate when you do that. And, uh, enjoy your day, guys. We'll see you tomorrow.
Tommy: See you guys.
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