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Episode 83445:10

Deep House & Baileys Ice Cream

We chat about Bodhi saving the day, local newspapers, swollen glands, getting out of a slump, Airbnb and parties, and tricking your brain.

Show Notes

00:00Bodhi saving the day
03:15Local papers
08:24Getting into papers and onto TV
13:56Swollen glands
18:13Deep house and getting out of a slump
33:28Airbnb and parties
37:48News cycles
44:03Tricking your brain

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Tommy shares a 3-step (later jokingly 4-step) method for escaping a negative mental spiral: play Uno with a partner, get an ice cream treat, and do a Metta (loving-kindness) meditation directed at yourself via a loved one.
  • –Metta meditation involves conjuring love and kindness toward someone easy to love (e.g., a child or parent), then redirecting that feeling toward yourself, often by imagining yourself as a child.
  • –Airbnb announced a global ban on parties and events at listings, including a 16-person occupancy cap, in response to issues like large unauthorized parties in places like the Hollywood Hills.
  • –A visualization/mind trick—pretending you're in a penthouse in a big city rather than a small locked-down apartment—can create a feeling of euphoria during lockdown.
  • –The hosts launch a listener callout asking anyone who has recovered from COVID-19 to email proof for a sticker pack and congratulatory letter.

Questions this episode answers

What is Metta meditation?

Tommy describes it as a loving-kindness meditation (Metta, spelled M-E-T-T-A) where you bring to mind someone easy to feel love for, conjure that feeling of love and kindness, and then direct that same feeling back toward yourself—often by imagining yourself as a child.

Did Airbnb ban parties?

Yes, according to Josh, Airbnb announced a global ban on all parties and events at its listings, including a cap on occupancy at 16 people, effective indefinitely for future bookings.

How can you tell if you need a COVID test for symptoms like swollen glands?

In the episode, Tommy advises Josh that if he's already isolating and not going anywhere, he likely doesn't need to rush to get a COVID test, since the spread concern was mainly about people with symptoms still going out to work.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

0:03

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 834.

0:08

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on? Happy Thursday.

0:12

Josh: Uh, great to be here. Very, very happy. You were just— you were telling me that something happened at the cafe, uh, that involved Bodhi being a hero.

0:21

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, he's only 3, but, um You know, and he dresses like a superhero, so it's fucking pretty obvious, actually, that he is a superhero. He usually wears Spider-Man outfits. He, you know, has like a Monster Rabbit sort of like dressing gown that he wears to the café. Like, he goes—

0:39

Josh: Is Monster Rabbit a superhero?

0:42

Tommy: No, it's just called Monster Rabbit because it's a dressing gown that looks like a rabbit and has like, you know, a hood that has little ears on it. And so, he feels like he's a little superhero. He actually had to be a superhero. He had to actually, you know, there's a lot of superheroes that are lazy, don't use their powers, like Bodhi. And so he had to use his powers, the power being very small and lightweight that he could be sort of thrusted over the counter to save the day. Because the lady at the cafe locked herself out of the cafe. She came out, she came out of the doors, which are automatic, went to drop a coffee to someone in a car and they closed behind her. And then she walked up and said, "Oh, shit." And she was the only person at the café. But luckily she'd opened the window, the service window to speak to me before, because that was how I was able to lift Bodhi over the counter, drop him into the café. And, you know, there's sweets and treats on offer, which I thought he could have gone straight for and we wouldn't have been able to stop him. But all he had to do was run around and there's like a, you know, the big exit button. On sliding doors and he just hit the exit button, saved the day. So he is the local hero.

2:00

Josh: He's the—

2:01

Tommy: I'm surprised actually that he hasn't made it into the local paper. So this morning I— let's show you that. This is the local, this is the local paper, which it's literally called the local paper. It's called— yeah, there's no messing around. It's the Eastern Edition, the local paper, and it's free.

2:18

Josh: And that's good. Free.

2:19

Tommy: JJ, like The time that we're in, stage 4 lockdown, 3 weeks in, 3 weeks to go, it's probably not a time that you want to be picking up newspapers just, you know, in the public where they've— someone else has just been sitting there reading it.

2:36

Josh: Is that a COVID issue?

2:39

Tommy: Well, I don't know. Yeah, I feel like there's a— I mean, it's going to be fine and that's why I picked it up. But it is just a sensitivity of like They removed— a lot of cafes removed newspapers even in that first round because it's like something where you're waiting and you're using your hands, you're touching and opening, like it's— you're just trying to eliminate that shit, right?

3:01

Josh: But also it promotes— the newspaper promotes the person that wants to really sit and enjoy their time where they just want you to hang out.

3:10

Tommy: True, true.

3:10

Josh: I reckon that's part of it.

3:12

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, true. And anyway, I picked this up because I was like, Who's running a local paper these days? This thing's been running for a very long time, since the '70s. I think someone started this, and, um, I opened it up. It's bizarre. It's just like there's all these advertising. There's like the first page you open up to is literally just like, um, people who are wanted, and then on the right-hand side, Crime Stoppers, or It's like the Crime Stoppers section, but it's not Crime Stoppers. It's just, uh, what are they called? Ticks and Crosses. Ticks and Crosses.

3:47

Josh: Is it some other council?

3:50

Tommy: Well, this is, I think, a local business. It's actually printed in Fitzroy, right near you, JJ.

3:56

Josh: Yeah, yeah. So it's, um, how much would it cost for us to get an ad, do you reckon?

4:01

Tommy: I don't know, mate, but I was just thinking if you can't sell podcast ads, you definitely, um, you know, couldn't sell newspaper spots. And it's— but I wouldn't mind one, you know, like, I don't know who's going to get it, but I'd skip through. This is just two of the things that jumped out at me. You know, some local news. This is just feel-good stuff. A student nurse who incurred $660 of parking fines in a school zone near Dandenong Hospital has had the bill waived by the Greater Dandenong Council.

4:32

Josh: Oh, that's nice.

4:32

Tommy: Now that's a—

4:33

Josh: So how broad is this? How broad is the newspaper? What sort of their reach?

4:38

Tommy: Abroad?

4:39

Josh: Well, if they're doing Dandenong stuff, like Dandenong from, like, from Bulleen is probably, you know, 25-30 minutes.

4:48

Tommy: Yep. So, it's like Maroondah. It's like a whole bunch of different regions. Maybe it's like local independent, local and independent, not associated with any other publication in this area. So, it's the Eastern District, I think, Eastern Edition. Um, anyway, this is made in there. Uh, radio cutbacks.

5:09

Josh: Oh great, what are they saying?

5:10

Tommy: SCA has announced that it will introduce statewide breakfast shows across its nation— uh, sorry, its national hit network of regional stations. The hit network station in Western Australia have already adopted this approach with statewide breakfast shows airing weekdays. The regional network in Victoria will follow.

5:31

Josh: That's interesting. I mean, I wouldn't have thought that that newspaper would have any examples of like radio stations. They must, right? In those areas that are affected.

5:43

Tommy: Well, yeah. I mean, this is like local newspapers.

5:46

Josh: What does that mean? Is it like going to Warragul or something? Like how far?

5:50

Tommy: What's the east? The east of Victoria. The east. Eastern suburbs. It's pretty big. Eastern.

5:57

Josh: What's the newspaper called? It's called Local News, isn't it?

6:00

Tommy: The local paper. Anyway, I mean, this is— they are— so the East End, like, it spreads, it sprawls probably like 20K in width. Like, it's a big, it's a big catchment area. Goes all the way out to Ferntree Gully, Lillydale.

6:17

Josh: But any regional stations over that period? I'd say no.

6:22

Tommy: Yeah, probably not. No, no, no regional stations. Anyway, bizarre. But it was, it's almost like I picked it up because I was like, it's almost like looking into the olden days. Like that's what it feels like.

6:37

Josh: Yeah. When I was 18, I used to like send press, I was sending press releases. I got the details of the local paper, like the journalist who I was quoted in an article and I just kept it. And so every time I was doing anything, I'd write a press release and I'd send it to them.

6:55

Tommy: There was, there was a, um, I mean, there's like, so I, I got into the paper as a kid, uh, get this, uh, the Brighton Baths is like a sea bath. So they've built out like, you know, a sort of rectangle pier that sort of spans around. In the middle you just swim, there's bars so you're not getting nipped by a shark, and Anyway, as a kid, we'd go there down in Brighton, and I— and I, cheeky little fella I was, and no superpower like my son, but I would run and I would jump over the old men sunbaking, like, because they were just lying sprawled out on the, on the pier. And so one time I jumped this guy, and all of a sudden this person was like, excuse me, excuse me, and I was like, oh fuck. So I'm sprinting off just in me fucking Speedos, 8-year-old. And then the guy came, caught up to me. He's like, oh, would you mind if I, um, I'm from the paper, would you mind if I took a photo of you doing a jump? And I mean, hindsight, as I say this, a guy with a long lens asking a child to do a fucking jump is a bit suspect. But it, but I, mate, I lent in and I fucking got in the paper and it was big. Mum still has the clipping. I reckon I could get a photo.

8:17

Josh: It would be good.

8:17

Tommy: Yeah, I reckon we could get it up. Yeah. Mate, it was a proud moment for the Jacket family.

8:24

Josh: It's funny how there were certain things when you were a kid that were a little bit sort of magical, or like the paper being one of them.

8:32

Tommy: Yeah.

8:33

Josh: But even holidays, like when we went to Hamilton Island, I remember we would go to, um, went to like Whitehaven Beach or whatever, where— so you'd go on a boat and then they'll let you off onto this beach that's got like beautiful white sand. And all of these tours, there was always someone who was filming and taking photos. And then when you got back afterwards, they'd be selling, you know, DVDs and like, you know, yeah, yeah. At the start it was the photo thing, so they would go to the, um, the island's photo shop where it was all sort of done, and they would print the photos out and you could buy them. And I just remember um, a guy had a Nikon. This would have been 2001, 2002, maybe, uh, the 2000, uh, 2003, uh, and he, uh, he would get everyone to jump, like what you were saying. And it was like the real— like, it was the coolest trick, the idea that you would, um, be, you know, on the beach and he would get you to jump and you get this awesome photo of you in the air. Yeah. And for like probably 2 years after that, it was the only type of photography I could do. It didn't matter what the occasion, but I'd be like, all right, now everyone, let's do a jumping shot. I've just got so many— I was looking back, I've got photos of like, uh, my mum and auntie and nana like jumping on Christmas, just like, just everyone's jumping.

10:01

Tommy: How high was nana getting? She was getting hang time.

10:03

Josh: She's getting pretty high.

10:06

Tommy: Might— what do you think the new version of like that feeling of getting in the paper would be?

10:12

Josh: Okay, yeah, uh, going viral on TikTok.

10:16

Tommy: Going viral on TikTok is a good one. Um, what about like, uh, I mean, getting tagged in something by a celebrity, or even just like getting a selfie with somebody and then posting it and then them liking it or something? Like, there's this— what is it? It's attention, right? It's like lots of people being able to see. I'm still blown away that, like, I reckon it's most years I get a message saying, I just saw you on TV.

10:43

Josh: Oh, this is the, um, Sprint Cars?

10:47

Tommy: No, no, not the TV show that I hosted on Seven. Thanks for bringing that up. No, no, not the exposé on my filthy behavior. Um, no, I, I was walking along Bondi Beach in Sydney. So we lived across the road, Amy and I.

11:03

Josh: You've definitely eaten your nuts or something in that shot. I can just imagine.

11:06

Tommy: Nah, nah.

11:07

Josh: Were you wearing your board shorts?

11:10

Tommy: Nah, nah, maybe, maybe. Can't confirm. Quite possibly. No, we lived across the road and so I would always go lurking and just fucking cruising. And Bondi Rescue is, it's probably a popular TV show around the world. Bondi Beach is the one of the busiest beaches, like, it's the busiest beach in Australia, I'd say. Even around the world, it's like known as a very fucking busy beach, great surf, everything. Anyway, so you can fit like, I reckon you could fit 10,000 people on that beach in one sitting.

11:47

Josh: Yeah, don't do it.

11:48

Tommy: Not at the moment. No, no, no, not at the moment. Anyway, Bondi Rescue films most days in the summer. You see them cruising around. And it was, they, it was around, it was towards Christmas time. And being hot in Australia Christmas time, you know, you wouldn't really think that there would be reindeers around. Like, it seems like a snow thing, right? But sure enough, the Bondi Rescue team had a fucking reindeer on the beach. And it was a little one. It looked like Bambi. It was beautiful.

12:22

Josh: It wasn't an actual reindeer, though, was it? Or—

12:25

Tommy: Well, what are they, like a deer? Like a small deer?

12:27

Josh: But it was an actual animal. Yeah, dude.

12:30

Tommy: It was a fucking reindeer. It was a mini— It was a baby one. And so, they could hold it and I'm sure they didn't have it out in the sun for too long. It's probably pretty cruel.

12:38

Josh: Do you reckon someone brought it to them as a gift or—?

12:41

Tommy: Yeah, mate. Producers, mate.

12:42

Josh: I'm sure. Yeah.

12:44

Tommy: Take a reindeer along the beach. And you know, and you'll get some fuckhead wanting to take a selfie and then we'll get a great shot of that and then we'll run it every year. And that was me. The fuckhead.

12:57

Josh: You were getting a selfie with the reindeer?

12:58

Tommy: I came in and I was like, and I was like, oh, can I get a selfie with it? And I took a selfie with the reindeer and obviously they're filming the whole thing.

13:07

Josh: Have you got the photo? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:09

Tommy: I reckon I'll find, I'll put it on Insta today. I've got a couple of things, a couple of throwbacks today to go. Yeah, yeah, you could do a carousel.

13:16

Josh: Why don't you do a throwback carousel Famous.

13:18

Tommy: Yeah, great idea. So I'll do one of me on Ultimate Sprint Cars as well. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. So yeah, I get a message on Facebook and it's basically, mate, were you on Bondi Rescue? I was like, yeah, thanks for asking.

13:36

Josh: Have you seen the clip?

13:38

Tommy: Yeah, I've seen it, I've seen it a couple of times, like just randomly. Yeah, I came across good, mate. It was one of my best performances. You know, really sort of held the camera up strong. Old phone though, so it's starting to, you know, become a bit dated.

13:53

Josh: Sure, I get that. Anyway, I've got glands that are huge, like my— is it glands? Is that what you call the things under here?

14:01

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, your glands.

14:01

Josh: My glands are like— I'm so— I'm getting sick, or I am sick. Got real sniffly and all that sort of thing. Do you think—

14:10

Tommy: Ghost goes out once and gets COVID.

14:12

Josh: I know, this is I haven't— it's been— it has been a month since I've gone out. Dude, do I, do I have to get a COVID test? It seems ridiculous.

14:27

Tommy: Oh my God, what would you do?

14:30

Josh: I feel like you wouldn't potentially get— you would just— do you think that people would be really pissed off with the idea that I I'm feeling sick or unwell and not really wanting— So, for people who don't know, I have had a COVID test before. I was being obviously cautious, probably similar symptoms to what I have right now, and got the test and I was negative.

14:58

Tommy: Negative. Look, I don't think you need to get one. Just don't fucking go out. It's annoying because I want you to enjoy the fresh air. But you do have your spin bike, put it on the balcony. Oh, that's a good idea. Get some case in with some fresh air. But I don't like— I think you could literally— we've still got 3 weeks of this. So even if you had it, you'll know if you fucking have it probably if you get to the first step.

15:24

Josh: Yeah, but also, I don't know, I wonder how much this like, um, uh, like you can actually see my— what are they called? Glands. You can see them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The swollen glands. Swollen glands. But I wonder if swollen glands is on there.

15:39

Tommy: It's a sign of an infection and tend to go down when you recover. So I mean, fuck, that's usually a sign of an infection.

15:48

Josh: Yeah, it's— I mean, surely just being indoors for fucking a month did it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, but it's a coincidence that I was feeling fine and then I go out for a walk and then it just went downhill.

16:01

Tommy: You had your mask on. I think if you stay indoors for another 14 days, you love that I'm saying that to you.

16:09

Josh: No, if that's what you're prescribing.

16:11

Tommy: Seriously, well, I think if you're worried, I don't think you need to go get a fucking test. Because the thing about the ramping up of the testing was everyone was still working, and so people were feeling like you and then going to work, and that's where the spread was coming. You're not going anywhere.

16:27

Josh: Yeah, so I mean, it developed the antibodies, and then if I, um, I've been getting many packages and things like that, which I've had a few. Yeah. But I just, it seems so— Yeah. But it seems so unlike, like, I know, like, maybe I'm sounding ignorant, but it's not like I'm gonna go now and hug a bunch of people. Like, I'm social— That why it's so funny is I'm the most socially distanced guy in Australia right now. I'll say that with a lot of confidence. Thank you, Breezer. And so I haven't got like, I've just got my coffee.

17:02

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, the thing is the lid there, that's the, that's your, that is the only transition point is the lid, people touching lids. But hopefully people at the cafes who are working sanitise the lid, like they put something on it.

17:15

Josh: That's what you want.

17:16

Tommy: Mine, I smelt one the other day and I could just, you know, when you just like, you're just like a fucking dog that sniff another. You know, other fucking dogs in the space.

17:25

Josh: Do you know what we should do? This is something. Getting COVID's fucking annoying. 170,000 people in the US have died from COVID right? It's not good. But if you have had COVID, if you are a gronk, send us an email, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Include the negative, uh, sorry, the, the positive result. So that we can confirm it, and we will send you some stickers and a letter saying congrats on beating COVID. And I'll lick the envelope. No, but I think that will be fun. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com, have you had COVID? Do you reckon anyone will email?

18:07

Tommy: I don't know, but they're gonna get a fucking little sticker pack. That's good, isn't it? That's gonna be good. Yesterday, I One of those days you just fucking spiral into a world of negativity and you just like, it's almost like you've got commentary on your own state within your mind, but it's not enough to sort of pull you out.

18:30

Josh: I actually like you in these states because I feel like you fucking call up just ready for it. Mate, what's going on with everything? Oh yeah, mate, I'm actually in bed. I'm about to go to sleep. Oh, it's crazy, isn't it?

18:42

Tommy: I'm like, yeah, it is, mate. I was up to fucking midnight. I was working on my computer up to just calling people.

18:49

Josh: Bloody crazy, isn't it?

18:51

Tommy: No, I was listening to deep house music on my computer last night. Which you need to stop.

18:56

Josh: Can you not use the Daily Talk Show YouTube channel for deep house? Because for whatever reason, they're all like bikini models in the thumbnails. And so every time I open up the Daily Talk Show's YouTube to livestream this All I see is just like, it looks like some sort of porn site essentially that I'm on. Well, it's all music.

19:19

Tommy: I didn't— when you actually said that, I was like, I didn't even think about that because it's what they've done is there's 2.5-hour deep house mixes and they've literally taken vloggers who have gone with their girlfriend to the Greek islands and they've— yeah, Ibiza in there. So there's like footage of these day clubs and it's fucking sick. Like, I listen thinking about Amy and I when we're able to go by ourselves back to Greece and just sit on the beach, you know, drink a few fucking Mythos beers and just relax and listen to— like, and I— it's interesting, I actually didn't— I've never really thought like, you know, I'm the music guy, or like, you know, but it's funny how I, I used to go out to clubs and shit when I was young. Like, we used to listen to house music. My brother was, you know, DJ, and, you know, he sort of influenced me. I had decks when I was younger. And anyway, I fucking love deep house.

20:18

Josh: I love it. How do you describe deep house?

20:21

Tommy: It's just— if you've ever been nightclubbing, it's like— no, no, no. So there's like— it's more just like cruisy background beats versus like a You're like, the, uh, Melbourne bounce is like a type of music that's fucking just like real drop the beat.

20:44

Josh: Like, oh, so this is— and I guess this is a little bit more like, like, down, down, down, down.

20:50

Tommy: Yeah, there's good beat in the background with a female vocal over the top, but it just blends in the back. It's just literally think about being No, no, no, mate, stop. Being on, being on a beach in Greece, if you've ever been into a— actually, no, better way.

21:08

Josh: Depends what you're listening to, because Bri and I listen to all the music we like, so we listen to Taylor Swift. Oh my God, this reminds me of when we're in Italy.

21:17

Tommy: Uh, well, a Cafe Del Mar, like, do you remember those albums? Like, Del Mar, there was like a Cafe Del Mar, it was like, yeah, Cafe Del Mar Chill Out Radio, Ibiza Livestream. Cafe Del Mar was a very, very popular, um, uh, album back in the day. Anyway, just love deep house. I, I digress. It's not about deep house today, um, but it is worth searching for the negatives.

21:42

Josh: You're listening, so you're listening to that last night?

21:45

Tommy: Yeah, well, that was just—

21:47

Josh: yeah, so it was a combo of nostalgia, do you think? Do you think it's like, fuck, no, I could have been a DJ and now I—

21:53

Tommy: no, no, no, no, no. So the— when you got me later in the night Yeah, I'd sort of— I was coming out the back end. I was partying. I found my stride and I'd, you know, landed on some deep house and I was fucking fired up. Um, but I was thinking I wanted to share a few ways that I found I was able to sort of remove myself from that negative spot.

22:19

Josh: This is good. This is like how to travel Europe without travelling Europe. This is—

22:25

Tommy: yeah, how to fucking get out of here. Your head. Yeah, yeah. And escape the noise. So one of them is— Have you got like— I've just got 2. 2.

22:36

Josh: No, I think you probably need more than 2 to be a list. Like if this is BuzzFeed, if I was the editor, I'd say, mate, we can't really— 3? 3's a list? Yeah, yeah, listicle. 3. I got 3.

22:45

Tommy: I got 3. Great. I got 3. Okay, let's go in order of how I did it. Okay. Number 1. Uno. Play Uno with your partner. Oh yeah, that's cute. Amy knew I was in a bit of a frump and she said, uh, one game. And I was like, yeah, I thought about it. I was like, I felt happy. I was like, fuck yeah, let's do this.

23:09

Josh: And you absolutely destroyed her.

23:12

Tommy: She's gone. She hasn't been home all night. It's lockdown, but she fucking left me. Yeah, no, no, no. I, uh, you did destroy her though.

23:20

Josh: I don't know.

23:22

Tommy: Well, we did one game, I lost. Okay, so that's first game. I'm not gonna have that. Which she said, you want to do best of 3? Yeah, want to do best of 3? Like, just fucking—

23:31

Josh: you're just like, all right, I'm fired up.

23:34

Tommy: It's almost the competitive nature in me, which I don't think I'm even that competitive. It came out and made me feel good. I was like, okay, I'm into this fucking— let's go again. It's almost focus, right? It's like attention to a task, and my focus was to win. And so we played another game, won that. I said, do you want to go another? And then we did it again. And then I think we ended up playing 4 games, and the last one, I just, you know, some call it a game of skill, others call it a game of luck, but fuck me, I got a good hand that last one, and I put it on Instagram, and I just, yeah, she— I made her pick up about 16 cards, and, and I walked away feeling really good about myself.

24:15

Josh: So, and so the aim of the game is that you're trying to get all your cards gone, isn't it?

24:20

Tommy: Yeah, you gotta get— yeah, you gotta get to Uno and then fucking drop the last card and walk out just partying. And so that's one—

24:26

Josh: is that all-encompassing?

24:27

Tommy: That's one. That's one. Just play some Uno with a partner, even if you lose, it's a bit of fun. If you're single, uh, well, um, it could be, uh, yeah, yeah.

24:41

Josh: Um, I reckon Uno is a— Uno is a two-player game. Hi, dailytorture.com. If you're single and want to play Uno, let us know, and one of the Gronks can play Uno with you. I'm sure there's a virtual version.

24:56

Tommy: Yeah, definitely, definitely. Virtual Uno, go there. Anyway, so just find a game with a friend and get your minds off things. Yeah, yeah, Uno specifically. The other one is— okay, I'm gonna load it up, load it up. I decided to go for a fucking ice cream last night. Just by myself. I was like, I gotta get out, I want ice cream. You're not— this is 7:40, man. 7:40, that's fine.

25:22

Josh: 8, 8, risky business. You're definitely only getting a flurry at that point, if maybe even a thing.

25:29

Tommy: No, dude, there's a fucking ice cream shop, like a legit ice cream store in Templestone near my house, and you know, you got 30 flavors. Oh, I can't even remember the name. Amy and I were, were disappointed in the branding that we couldn't work it out from first glance.

25:46

Josh: I was gonna say, is it like Dairy Bell? No, no, no.

25:49

Tommy: This is top end, man. It's top end. Like, Dairy Bell is top end, no? Dairy Bell is older style. Think newer style.

25:58

Josh: So, this is like a piccolino or trampoline.

26:04

Tommy: It's more like trampoline. If you're going to settle on anything, it's trampoline.

26:08

Josh: What about Cold Rock? What's happened with Cold Rock?

26:10

Tommy: Cold Rock is still around. I think it's changed hands. But yeah.

26:15

Josh: My brother loved that, James. He used to put Fruit Tingle. He used to get sorbet and then Fruit Tingles.

26:21

Tommy: Mate. Mate, I tell you, it says a lot about you if you put Fruit Tingle or Nerds into your Cold Rock. You're a unique individual. Yeah. But I respect it. I respect it. So, I went and got an ice cream by myself. And at that moment, I'm just laughing at the thought of me just going to get an ice cream by myself. And it was a bit just sort of naughty. I got home at like 8, at like 7:58, and I was like, fuck yeah, just fucking got in.

26:50

Josh: Did you think about getting a milkshake instead of— because I feel like those places, if they've got ice cream, fucking real easy to just down the straw, you know, up a straw.

27:00

Tommy: No. Uh, nah, I'm more of an ice cream guy. Well, here's the thing, you can't, you can't do the taste test anymore.

27:07

Josh: Oh, that makes sense. I'm so glad, like, to be honest, that was the biggest anxiety because Bree loves to taste test, and yeah, I know you would too. And I just—

27:15

Tommy: well, I loved it. I didn't push back. I said, um, she said, oh, and I'll, you know, I can't do that. I say, fuck, I've got to run the gauntlet, don't I? I need to just pick and go for it, commit. And so how many people are in the store at this point? Absolutely no one else but me. You had your mask on? Yeah, I had my mask on, had my mask on.

27:34

Josh: Something so weird about that, like imagine that, like if imagine fucking a year ago that footage leaking of you wearing a mask at fucking 10 to 8 being like, I need to get home real quick. I want to say, no, sorry sir, you know, we can't allow you to taste anymore.

27:53

Tommy: What? It's so bizarre. It's a bit weird. Anyway, I was cool with it. She was so sweet, the girl. Anyway, I got the— I got Bailey's and brownie. Oh, and my thought was, I said to her, I didn't— I don't— I really hope it's not too like alcohol flavor. Like, I didn't want to say— she said, no, it's great, it's great. And then I sort of, um, and then I said I'm going. She's like, great choice. I took a tub home last night. And so she nailed it. It was perfect.

28:26

Josh: And so Bailey's, is there any alcohol in it? You were seeking, you're wanting a drink. Yeah. So I've been having 4 litres of Bailey's ice cream. It's fucking just a bit slurry in the words. Mate, how much of that Bailey's ice cream are you eating? Was this, 'cause you did say, I'm sure it was either yesterday or the day before you said, mate, feeling a drink, feeling like a drink, but not gonna have one. And so you had a Bailey's ice cream. I think this means that you've had a drink. I haven't had a drink. The point is that I'm not having ice cream, I'm just having thick shakes. It's like, mate, it's the same thing.

29:04

Tommy: It's not the same, and I didn't— haven't consumed alcohol since I said I was quitting alcohol again. Anyway, it's all good. No drinking. Bailey's ice cream went down a treat, and I was pretty fucking happy about myself. I got home though. Was it a cone or a cup?

29:17

Josh: I'm just very quickly, I'm so sorry. Cone or cup?

29:22

Tommy: Cup I didn't go with because I wanted the experience and something, you know, to do. I like to eat the cone. I wanted to feel the whole process. And so I went with a waffle cone and it was fucking beautiful. Anyway, that had me feeling good, perked up on sugar, probably a bit late for that, but I got home, parked in the garage and This brings me to my fourth suggestion. So just to recap, uh, oh sorry, third. Yeah, sorry, third. So first one, Uno. Second, yeah, play Uno. Second one, go get yourself an ice cream. So lean into the sort of, lean into that negativity, but just, you know, get some sweet, get perked up. Then followed by a meditation. And so it's not, uh, it's not just an average meditation, specific type of meditation. Have you heard of Metta meditation? No. So Metta not being M-E-T-A, Metta being M-E-T-T-A, and Metta meaning love and kindness. And so it's a love and kindness meditation, which the— I don't need to go too hard into it, but there's a— it is basically bringing to mind someone who it's very easy to feel love and kindness towards. And so for me, it can be thinking about my child, thinking about how much I love him. And, you know, you've got to think about someone who your relationship is sort of—

30:52

Josh: it's not— it doesn't have a very— age.

30:54

Tommy: Yeah, exactly. It's just like that person. It can be anyone. It could be someone you don't even know, but you just love them and they do so much for you. Whether it be listening to whatever, and, and you bring them to mind and you, and you are wishing love and kindness on them. So you're, you know, wishing them well essentially. So it's like mantra, but then there's a version of it where you, you take that feeling that you conjure for somebody else. And so I was using my mum last night, but then you take that feeling that you create within your body and you then direct it back towards yourself. And there's— some people probably find it tough directing it to themselves in this moment. You know, you might have a bunch of sort of self-hate like Bailey's. You were nearly destroyed your relationship fucking beating your wife into no?

31:50

Josh: As soon as the love starts coming back to you, you're like: No! No! No! No! No! No! No! I'm a bad boy.

31:56

Tommy: But the pivotal point for me last night was imagining yourself as a child. And all children fucking deserve love and kindness, and they're just so sweet. So when you think about yourself as a child, it's a powerful thing because you realise that it's before all the bullshit. Yeah, bit naive. Usually. You're naive, you're just new to the world and you fucking don't know what's happening and you haven't gone through all these sort of things that are gonna give you baggage, right?

32:34

Josh: And you're wearing your own Superman costume.

32:39

Tommy: Exactly. And you can, yeah, you think about that and it's so nice because for me, I sort of, it's closely connected to Bodhi, what I think about as a child, 'cause I've sort of re-experienced the kid thing with him. And so, and then I just put myself in those shoes. And it's a nice feeling. Like, you can— and, and, and so the— in turn, the, the meta meditation approach is to sort of harness those— that, that energy and sort of direct it on yourself. And, and I can tell you right now, you can really, really feel good about yourself. And I was smiling. I was smiling. And so that's— I mean, you had a good—

33:17

Josh: for someone who had a shit day, you had a great evening.

33:20

Tommy: Oh yeah. And then I finished it off with deep house. Yeah, it was fucking sick.

33:24

Josh: On the deep house thing, did you see that Airbnb have banned parties globally? Wow. I mean, fuck, we—

33:32

Tommy: so I hired an Airbnb for my Bucks party. They're dead. I mean, you weren't allowed to do that then, but just parties in general? Just—

33:39

Josh: yeah, so this happened a week. So I was Googling it when you were talking about— when we said about the house, like house music, I then sort of went to— was it house music or what's the music called that you listen to? Deep House. Deep House. Yeah, I was thinking, oh, that would be something you'd listen to at a party, and then I remembered about Airbnb. This is from a week ago. This is on their website. Today we're announcing a global ban on all parties and events at Airbnb listings, including a cap on occupancy at 16. This party ban applies to all future bookings on Airbnb and will remain in effect indefinitely until further notice. Mm, wow. I mean, it's— I didn't actually even think about Airbnb as part— like, when you think about Airbnb, you're always thinking you can't have a party. But I guess, like, in LA, because there's a big issue in LA and stuff at the moment, is it's like fucking gronks hiring expensive houses and having huge parties, man.

34:38

Tommy: They banned— hang on, let me just say banning parties in the Hollywood Hills. Like, this is, this is not even Airbnb at this point. On Wednesday, Mayor Eric authorised the city to shut off utilities to Hollywood Hills home. Oh no, different. Anyway, a while ago they did. And so anyway, was it in response to COVID stuff? No, no, no, this was a little while ago. But yeah, man, it's—

35:03

Josh: I wonder what, um, so New York Occupancy levels are like crazy low at the moment with like people leaving and all of that sort of thing. Yeah, I saw an article where Yelp is reporting that close to 50% of the businesses that are on Yelp have closed down, have shut down, like, forever. Completely. Yeah, like shut down, which is pretty crazy. There's an interesting article by James Altucher, which then—

35:38

Tommy: I love James Altucher. Yeah, quirkiest dude.

35:41

Josh: Yeah, he is.

35:42

Tommy: He's literally, he's literally built heaps of wealth and gone bankrupt 3 times. He's literally built it up, lost it all, built it up, lost it all, built it up. Ridiculous.

35:55

Josh: And so, so the New York Post, uh, the article is, uh, New York City is dead forever, here's why. And then Jerry Seinfeld came out saying like, you're full of shit. And there's a bit of a feud going on now because James Altucher is like, mate, you've got your mansion in the Hamptons or whatever, of course you're going to say this. You're not connected with the actual realities of what's happening in New York.

36:24

Tommy: Yeah, fuck, I almost like James Altucher, like I feel he's I feel like he's more down closer to planet Earth than Jerry Seinfeld.

36:32

Josh: Honesty and grit to it. Like, when I remember seeing— I respect his hair, by the way. Like, I fucking love it. Like, I feel like I could get around that type of hair.

36:40

Tommy: Do you remember Young Einstein, the film where he gets like electrocuted and his hair goes real fucking haywire? That's it. That's, that's James Altucher. Love him. I'd love to have James on the podcast.

36:51

Josh: Yeah, he seems like a really interesting dude. Yeah, but it is interesting seeing that there seems to be this contrasting thing, which I understand is it's sort of like, New Yorkers, we're tough, we've gone through 9/11, all of these things, it's all going to be fine, it's been overblown, like, uh, to no, this is, this is bad. Yeah, which I feel my, my perspective is with everything, if, if this was a normal case If this was just US, I wonder if, say for instance, this wasn't— the pandemic wasn't in Australia at all, I wonder what our news cycle would look like. Like if we weren't— So, at the moment, it's all about Victoria, it's about us. But if we removed us, I wonder what the next thing is that we'd be thinking about. Outside of COVID No. So, like even in COVID. So, say if we— If Victoria didn't have the numbers and all the fuck-ups here. Oh, yeah. I wonder where the interest point would be. Would it be in what's happening in New York or these bigger cities or?

38:01

Tommy: Yeah, I think I feel like people up in Sydney are sort of, it's not affecting them as much. Well, Amy's best friends are all up in Sydney. And so, yeah, yeah. There's no, it's not mandatory masks. It's like even yesterday we were speaking to our accountant who's up in Brisbane. Yeah, and I mean, sure, he's in quarantine because he's had to— he's moved up there for— to be with his family in the last couple of weeks. But it's, um, it's a different vibe up in these places. Like, I mean, that's why, yeah, sometimes it— you can feel like it is the whole of Australia based on being in Victoria and the feeling of it. But yeah, you're right.

38:43

Josh: And that's not Hot Accountant that's moved, that's, uh, who's the other legend that works with us. Yeah, just in case you're all worried. That, uh, yeah, yeah, they wouldn't be able to— Hot Accountant's not in Melbourne.

38:53

Tommy: He's still in Melbourne. Yeah, yeah, still freaking the same number, stalking. I mean, walking distance. Um, no, um, the— my brother had—

39:03

Josh: Tafe is also a hot accountant, by the way. Like, Tafe is a good— I mean, we— Jesus, we don't hire accountants based on looks, but it looks like we have.

39:14

Tommy: Just that whole team. Yeah. Anyhow, Uh, my brother interviewed a guy for his podcast, None of My Business, um, in Antarctica. Oh, that's great. Antarctica. Dude, this guy's living in Antarctica. Is that how you say it? Antarctica. Antarctica. Antarctica. Oh yeah, maybe it is. Antarctica. No, say how you say it. Maybe I've found the word that I can't say.

39:42

Josh: Antarctica. No, that's not— Yeah, it's Antarctica. Oh yeah, Antarctica.

39:51

Tommy: No, fuck, I've found the word I can't say. Jesus. Oh, and that is— So he's in that, and, um, no COVID in Antarctica. Seriously, dude, it's like they, they've kept them on the island. Uh, not the island, is it an island? They've kept him on it. Uh, he was meant to come home last year and they've kept him there based on— What does he do? They're just like, cannot— He looks after one of the stations. It's sick.

40:20

Josh: I can't wait to listen to it. Like he's still spinning tracks?

40:24

Tommy: No, I don't know exactly what he does, but you'll find out on the podcast.

40:28

Josh: But it's Tomo and Simone in Antarctica. We're playing the coolest hits from the '60s, '70s, and '80s.

40:36

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, we're bringing the heat to this joint.

40:39

Josh: It's quite funny. But I mean, when you—

40:43

Tommy: when— imagine what it would feel like to be at a place where that you're so far from any fucking COVID. Like, they're very worried about it coming there because it's just—

40:53

Josh: it's beautiful. Uh, it'd be a nightmare if something happened there, right?

40:58

Tommy: How would you even know where you'd find it? Or Pain in the bum. Pain in the bum.

41:05

Josh: So, None of My Business. Is that the name?

41:07

Tommy: Yeah, None of My Business is Michael Jackson's podcast. Also— That episode's not out yet, though.

41:13

Josh: When does it come out? I don't know.

41:15

Tommy: I think in a week or so.

41:16

Josh: Okay. Yeah. One Trick Tony, she's got her latest episode out. What do you call— So, she put on Instagram her sort of getting her döner and flicking it So, it was Torbz, her boyfriend was doing it, sort of getting the doona prepared in the evening. What do you call that?

41:37

Tommy: Mate, I saw this post and I do this most days, trying to make the bed. I couldn't tell you, I was thinking like puffing up my doona. I was thinking puffing up my doona. I was just fucking, I couldn't think of a word that made sense because I'd never even thought I'm just doing that action. I'm just going to make the bed. That's usually what you say.

42:02

Josh: What is it? What? Well, should I reveal it now or should people listen to the, to the episode?

42:08

Tommy: Well, I haven't got to that point, so you're going to ruin it for me.

42:10

Josh: Okay, I won't, I won't ruin it. Go listen to One Trick Tony on your favourite podcast app. Also give it a review as well if you can.

42:18

Tommy: I'm 14 minutes in, 14:26.

42:19

Josh: And so, um, I really like it. Mason still sounds nervous at the start. 'Hey, how you going?' is what he does at the start. 'Hey, how you going?' at the start. Just fucking—

42:28

Tommy: that's a good Mason impression.

42:30

Josh: Yeah, he's just like— he's— because he's not going well, you know.

42:34

Tommy: Hey, how are you going? Because— well, Mace, Mace, take my 4-step process. It goes Uno, ice cream.

42:42

Josh: Fuck, that would be good. Uno, ice cream. He's playing Monopoly, uh, with me tonight, so maybe we could do Monopoly ice cream, and then, uh, Metameditation. That could work.

42:53

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, into some deep house if you feel like it.

42:56

Josh: Like deep house whilst— when I start to win Monopoly, I turn the music up. Like, it's got like Monopoly music, and I just fucking turn it up. So because we Zoom, yeah, everyone can hear.

43:05

Tommy: Dude, I reckon, I reckon deep house in the background while you're playing some Monopoly would actually work. It would actually— do you know what would be awesome?

43:12

Josh: Google Home should have a feature where you can sync up houses So for instance, it like listens on Zoom and then matches everyone so they're listening to the same song at the same time, so you don't end up with some sort of weird, you know, like, oh, you got music on, I can't hear you because of the music. Yeah, yeah, it's just a thought. All righty.

43:33

Tommy: Um, well, if you're spiraling, it's all good. It doesn't— it's spiralling and being aware of the spiralling and almost just laughing as you're in it. Sometimes helps, and then sometimes, sometimes, well, definitely sometimes doesn't. But even if you are aware, it's the first step of fucking— you can be, you can have awareness and still be completely lacking awareness because there's multiple layers of awareness at that point.

43:59

Josh: So if we can trick our brain too. So what I did the other night, it was so cool. So Bree and I were like trying to get to bed early, and so we decided to close the blinds, which we don't normally do. And so we closed the blinds. I was like you know what, I'm going to pretend right now that I am in a skyscraper. I'm really high up in New York City and like just on the other side of the window is fucking Times Square or what. Like there's just heaps of shit going on and you can actually like make yourself feel fucking euphoric. Yeah, it's like the— it's the penthouse experience when you're fucking not on the penthouse. Ground floor. Yeah, it's the penthouse experience on the ground floor.

44:41

Tommy: Imagine you as a real estate agent.

44:43

Josh: Yeah, that's what we're looking for, a penthouse.

44:45

Tommy: Mate, no, you're not. Fucking ground floor's good enough.

44:48

Josh: Yeah, yeah, mate. Yeah, too, too bright up there. Come down here.

44:51

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can pretend, trust me, it feels like it. Definitely.

44:54

Josh: Yeah, guys, okay, now I know this is a studio apartment. Close your eyes, imagine a 3-bedroom. Feels good, doesn't it? Open your eyes, sign here. All right, it's a daily talk show. Enjoy the rest of your Thursday, and we'll see you tomorrow for Fat Fridays. Have a good one, guys. See you guys.

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