#833 – Building A Second Brain/
- August 26, 2020
We chat about designing the perfect forest, Tommy’s drive last night, building a second brain, Josh’s first walk in a month and Mount Franklin sparkling water is on sale.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- Fires & bamboo
- Designing the perfect forest
- Finding Kangaroos
- Building a second brain
- Josh’s first walk in a month
- A Mount Franklin sparkling water sale
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 133
happy Hump Day gronk. What's going on? fcsa What's happening? Then I say what's going on? There we go.
So one of the time to change things up,
I mixed it up my, you know, just picked 133 hips in just fell apart in the first five seconds, you know?
Like, it doesn't get any easier in regards to remembering the show number. Okay, still every single time I'm panicking in the final, it's confusing when those index cards arrive. I can just have the number there and I can look down the drain.
I actually don't I'm not that fussed about your index cards anymore, because I thought that the ones that you use and then wanting to throw away Can I take them because I'll use them as I'm firestarters I start just having a, you know, just start putting them on to fight they might actually they call it out. They
know I've gotten to some white ones, but there'll be all my bad ideas.
Yeah, what they're doing as well. Just burns away your bad ideas. Maybe I'll I'll catch them it'll be some kind of spiritual fucking of onboarding of your bullshit. One of the stories just around the fire stuff. I can't tell if my dad's full sheet or he's just has all these good stories from work sites, but there was one. So there's the there's the classic when you're working with like bamboo, so you're removing bamboo from a garden, but dad's a landscape architect, I used to work for him as an apprentice. count him into employing me for six months, then I pulled the pin so thanks dad. got me out of school though, but we're working on this property and bamboo fucking grows like wildfire. It's it just this place will real in some places, isn't it in suburbs? Well, depends on the type. There's a type that just is an absolute prick. And so this this one house was infested. It was coming up underneath the house, like it was shooting up with nowhere to go and just by stops. Anyway, dad used to say to me my Be careful, you get a cut and get some of that bamboo in your finger. You'll grow. I heard of a guy that bah bah bah. And so it tells me a story. The other story is around firewood. And so do you know what traded pine is? Yep. So yes, it traded pines, wood that's traded in chemicals to make sure it's like, you know, last longer. I think it's like to make it you know, it's the nasal spray of wood.
I was like,
anyway, it's fucking trade with chemicals to keep it harder. And gronk sews it on fires. And there was a story of, you know, a family out in the suburbs that used treated pine from the building site next door to cook their barbecue, and a few people died. Yeah, I turned that. Well see this is
the best of sports in here. You've got it. I wonder if that's a big if you put a pestis into a fire, like cut it up and then lift it whether you're all fucked, like whether it's just a guarantee. Yeah, I mean this you gotta inhale the smoke. I mean, you put it out you don't even want to handle it.
Yeah, I mean, that's a weird thing. That's, you know, as bestest it's. I don't know who's burning it. It's disgusting.
Anyway, you just editing random bits and bobs from a worksite So does that mean that you're being extra careful about what you're putting in? Well, I made the phone call to dad last night. I said dad is is an old television.
I said buddy's old mattress he pistonic this year in its aura. Now I called him in I said, I said is framing timber. Okay. He said yeah, man. It's pure pine pure pine get it on. So it's all good. But you because sometimes you're burning pine and it really smells and I can't tell if it's like my breathing in some serious fumes or is this alright and so now it's all good Tim jacket says priming pond usually can tell because it's got like a green tint raining time what actually is framing pond or framing timber you could probably just say framing timber is made of usually pine and so the frame of your house or like the frame that I built the wall behind me on the frame the studio is it's just framing up houses usually you can buy just like you know lengths of wood framing and it's pine and so it's all good to burn. All good boys.
My I've actually it's funny you bring up the whole wood thing because I'm reading this morning. Now I'm reading a book at the moment that's all about like, the first I don't know the title, I can't remember but it's like there's a whole chapter on yonks ago. I don't even know when it was but they would do like scientists would create like they tried to create the perfect forest in in in Germany and so but what ended ended up happening was that it was purely so that they could you know, grow the fuck and like it so they have the virus and they can cut it down and what so I think Yeah, the thing is they only planted just the shit that they needed so they fucked off everything else they put it all in rows. And it worked really well for one generation. Yeah, this these big trays. But then it all started to collapse on each other because that was saying you need all of the combination of the sort of ecosystem around yet protected to make so pests would get to it.
I thought was very interesting. Well, this is humans coming in and fucking machine we've made a lot of mistakes that human rights has made a lot of mistakes. Look at, look at the introduction of cane toads. I'm pretty sure cane toad introduced introduction in Australia. So, yeah, they were introduced cane toads were introduced in Australia in 1935. They were brought to Australia from Hawaii with the intention to control the cane beetle in sugarcane fields in northern Queensland. Only 102 cane toads were brought over to be bred and 2400 toads were released in 1935. There is a severe problem in this country with cane toads and they've done more damage than they have good. And so that's that's the what else was there? The rabbit I think Mike the
just remember the golf club. I remember Churchill Park golf club that put all this foam it looked like him moves were just all around like, what are they doing? And they'll be fucking like, blinding. Yeah, I don't know that they'll try to make the rabbits blind or whether the rabbits were already fun to know trying to kill them. Whatever it was, I was like, now how comfortable I feel about what's going on here.
So I remember remember that virus released Kill rabbits and that was a, you know that you'll know you'll know the name when I say it. Rabbit Here we go. It was the was it rabbit homogenise disease. There was something released I can't remember. remember the name of it but it did the job like it. I remember going as a kid last night
something like that wasn't it?
The the last night we went on a night drive with Bodie and night drive before 8pm before the curfew. And we went to sort of look for some rabbits. No, so we didn't we sorry. We went just for a drive. But I was telling me that when when I was young, we would go driving looking for rabbits or night drives when we were on holidays would be going to find
some autosys I think was limited. Yeah, potentially.
Isn't that just what you've got?
Sorry about that. Just wanted to close the loop.
Yeah. So are just remember and then and then, you know a couple of years later couldn't find like there was one or two, like, compared to the flocks of them on the golf course near where we were they ruined golf course.
When you're driving sorry I interrupted.
Yeah last night but we went for a drive anyway this morning. went for a drive with Bodie again this long driving as a parent to see kangaroo we had a competition was like, buddy, if we see kangaroo, we get to listen to my stuff. But if we don't see kangaroo, you get to listen to music.
I take ride to go out of bowling to find a kangaroo
like five minutes from five No, no, not even close to the city, like towards Ivanhoe. And so
you've got to play your music.
Night. I got to listen to what I wanted to listen to right. How
many, how many kangaroos. We saw two. There'll be fillers. They, but actually I just loved it. I just
put it up on our Insta story. You The Daily talk show but I just love as I got older, just fucking the thought of being able to just see a native animal you know, near my house that's not too far from the city. But there's something about that, like, it feels like your way out. I remember as a kid
with the kangaroos, we just have so many kangaroos on our lawn. And whenever we had international visitors overawed like you'd get a big fucking sticking out Okay, we're gonna go find some big kangaroos for it and they fucking huge but you would be acting like a top dog like Yeah, yeah. To See also showing you around a bit. I was scared shitless I'm like the big fat like six over six foot massive jaegers and you would like hiss at you and especially if you sort of walked over you know, sometimes it'd be no joke like 15 kangaroos.
Yeah. Next applies. They wonder the animal I mean, the koala. I don't trust a kangaroo. Don't trust wallet like, you know, it's like it's their bit like junkies you don't know what you're gonna get sometimes they're really docile and just relaxed. next minute they fucking hissing at you and shitting on the ground. Very similar to a junkie and calling What? And and they got close and they, you know, push their claws out. These things get to climb trees and they're always stoned. It's
so if you had if you had to have a pet and it was a native animal, which which animal would you go?
Well, I mean, what else is native is a one one bat native? Yeah. One bats. I mean, yeah, kangaroos aren't cuddly. Like they're just it's like, it'd be like going out with a bodybuilder. That's always you know, prepping for a show that just like you'd cuddle it and feel like a piece of rock.
you want something a bit more like koalas. Yay, I get it. I look cuddly, but don't trust them for the life of me. wombats I mean I wouldn't mind a one bat because you I feel like he can't even get close to one bat unless they're really tight like a tight one bat well well they run very fast so they can get up to like a rockin let's have a take some guesses here one bat speed Oregon like 30 kilometres now
wombat I reckon
I reckon I'm gonna say
is Chrysler 40 Ks now?
100% wonder if there's any videos on YouTube of them running we can look I won't be that fast or slow although they look patchy and slow wombats can run up to 25 miles per hour and maintain that speed
for a minute. sprinters
they Usain Bolt, it's like they overweight Usain Bolt. I mean, you I've literally found a video on YouTube. Just wombat running Really? Yeah, they get momentum. It's the heavyset fellows. But anyway, I went I was on camp as a kid, chum Creek. We were in the forest and we heard one and we heard one running behind it before we saw it we could hear the thoughts of like the thought on the ground. They're so heavy and it was and it ran past us and we shot ourselves is finally
gonna hurt I was determined to make this more of a positive episode so I thought the animal thing was safe. Well,
one better one better tax if you want to go there. One but the tax treaty and Methodist
Oh, there's a guy who who has a wombat in his arms that looks snugly all man if I could time on bat. Imagine a big solid one bat just you know at your feet you could almost use it as a poof you know just like feet up on it just kicking back roll no but it's you might you know I use you for she said
this a lot when I was hearing about the forest stuff about like designing the perfect forest. I was thinking about animal sounds like it reminded me of remember at the start of the of the pandemic was the guy's name tight Joe Tiger Joe exotic. Oh,
yeah, what happened? That feels nice. Doesn't it? That feels so long ago but
remember, it was a real like it was a moment. Yeah. Anyway, I was thinking about the all the tiger stuff I was thinking like, it makes sense when you take things out of their normal situation and all of a sudden you take away prey and all like the need to have to try and find your food. Like the those Tigers would be fact if you took them out and just like okay, yeah, we've conserved them now. Like, go off and do it but it all So you think about if they breed when they just be like lazy fuck so I wonder if they still if you bred a domestic Tiger does that Tiger that's born? Is it is it like, like it's wild and more through DNA would not be passed down that it's not very good. Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's like humans we have things sort of ingrained in our DNA. I was listening to someone talk about, you know, that the reaction that people have, like that feeling of being self conscious. That that is a reason like that's benei now dainite like, were you feeling like a sense of self and you're looking at somebody and you feeling like they're looking back at you when you're feeling self conscious about how you are being viewed by them and like,
like, when I was listening to
Sam Harris, and was like, I can't remember I listened to so much of like little classes and right so you
And so Was there anything else that
now it's just that there's the fascinating point of like most of our responses as humans like the anxiety, all these things, maybe they don't serve us in today, like they needed to way back when thousands of years ago,
you know, trying to remember that stuff. This is why you need to build a second brain about this.
What they tried to build a forest and the fact that
how can we build a second brain so No, I was if you got if you google build a building a second brain, there's a whole there's a there's a website, it's like building a second brain calm and this sort of this dude has done a whole like he does courses ranging, it's like if they're expensive, it's like 1500 bucks for the static course and then five grand for the Primo one but he gives 90% of all of the content around it away for free. So I've just been ingesting as much as possible. So the idea behind building a second brain you no notion, Evernote, Rome, drafts, all these things that we've been talking about what they're designed for is it's like how do you? How do you capture things? So say for instance, if you're listening to a podcast, if you simultaneously to listening to the podcast, just took a few notes. So what were the key bits? Who were the people talking all that sort of stuff. Imagine how he like, and then you had some software where you could easily search. So for instance, with that Sam Harris example, you could type in Sam Harris DNA or whatever, and then you would have the notes then you can be like, Oh, yeah, there's this, this this that, like, you'd be able to recall it all.
Yeah, does it? Do you think that's creating the second bright or that you're not relying on your your first brain to store that information is that the
brain does a terrible job at it. And so that's the
See only Brighton really
the thing this is the hot like this is the first version of all the shit that like Elon Musk has been talking about with like fucking putting something in your head like having, having a neural link. That's it having a way of organising things, like just think about that, because otherwise you read a book. And obviously, there's a bunch of examples where you don't you're just doing it for fun, but even if you're just reading some fiction or whatever, if you find, like a line that really resonates with you, be cool to like, highlight it, and then have it for later.
I mean, the people that haven't built a second brain just using the term they say, serious information that are they say this and then yeah, so
imagine, imagine so there's this whole thing around like knowledge workers, so you know, people that could be people like content, creating like this sort of stuff that we're doing in some way. Knowledge work, it's maybe just a way of saying that we don't fucking leave the house. I've never
heard of this knowledge,
knowledge worker the definition of a knowledge worker,
knowledge work or knowledge well, knowledge worker, a person whose job involves handling or using information, okay? There's a lot of we're all knowledge workers if
you've got a job well, no. So that's, that's the whole, like, the future of work is in a lot of us being knowledge workers, like we have all of this information and so if you think about it, Instagram fucking all these social networks, the problem is that there's so much of the information that isn't great. And so there's gonna be so much power if you can turn, turn on some filters and increase the quality of the information you get. Plus, if we look at like amp steal like an artist like Austin kleon or everything's a remix all these types of ideas. It's there's no new ideas. And so if there's no new ideas, and it's just a mix and match of all old ideas, then like that's what Ryan Holiday who has done the obstacles the way or ego is the enemy. stillness is the key all of these books that they're based on philosophy that he's read and then he's just able to combine it into the connected in different ways.
Yeah, it's Do you think the the purpose of that sort of deep diving into building the second brain is for somebody somebody who needs to? Who is has an output for it? So has is writing something reference authors. What's the use case for somebody that for the everyday gronk of building a second, Brian, what do you think it is, like, Where's the so I get this sort of benefit of learning instead of collating like I think even in the process of trying to store information that you like your data and learn more than what you would normally, but for the average gronk is at a dinner party where you can fly,
like I know, it's like, I think it's synthesising. So I think it's like closing the loop is I have felt that just reading without underlining or doing any of that stuff, it's sort of feels like you're halfway there. Like you haven't fully I don't fully synthesise it until I've underlined it, read it again, given it a few days. And so I think like, a lot of it is a Yeah, like, this idea that you go to university and you do something for a certain period of time, and then you go on and do a job like that's, that's long gone for most industries, unless you're a doctor or things like that, but even then, you're still constantly learning. And so I feel like this is a cool way of learning. So I mean, building a second brain I like, I feel like it is a it's sounds very grandiose, but it's just about like, how can you catch So for instance, the story the story around the, the forest, like I want to get better at like. So what I haven't implemented yet, I am using a service called read wise grade, and then wi se. And what it does is it takes all of your highlights from your Kindle. Also like if you use instapaper, or if you use any of those like apps where you can where you read your articles and you can highlight bits and it puts it for one it gives you like a daily review. So it will say here are some of the highlights that you've previously highlighted on all of your books. So you can retain in that way, but then you can export out read wise highlights into Evernote into Rome or notion. So then you can have depending on the different theme. So for instance, this tree thing, it's a call Forcing it's a cool story. But if I like I feel like I need to have a clearer way of communicating it. So it's like, Okay, this is when it happened. This is like, actually, and so that just requires that second, I only read that bit last night. But I see the power and if I go back and actually just say, okay, When was this? What was the like? And just connecting a few more dots here are some of the key quotes. Could you imagine that being like super powerful? I mean, if you didn't have a podcast, you'd be the most annoying friend ever just
just are he is ragged Mr. Bloody now at all.
It's not like so if you take out like, because I get it. So if you take out that element, being able to Yeah, it's like it's not so much. So if you even take out the bit where it's like just being able to regurgitate information, but it's like actually understanding it better. So you're not, you're not even you're not doing it so that you can just do those things. It's actually so you can connect dots. So, for instance, say if you're writing a blog post, and you want to write something on a specific thing, like I was doing it the other day of the day where I was thinking about, you know, we spoke with Zach mandor, about doing the obvious, and how we always have pushback on the obvious, but sometimes the obvious is what you need to do. Yeah, I was like, looking at my highlights, and I saw impro, a book that I read, that specifically talks about this thing. And then I saw another bit that wasn't like, this is marketing. And so you can combine all of these things together to actually build a new hypothesis or a new ID based on five other ideas that you've consumed. Hmm. But if you didn't have the second Brian, it would be too hard to do that.
Yeah, I think there's also the interest level for human like you is high for something like this. You know, it's like, very cerebral Bro, it's very like organising everything. And the interest level there. Some people don't want to fucking
organise you ever panic. Do you ever panic, like when you hear something or someone tells you something? Do you ever? Like, if you needed to remember something, or if you had a thought or an idea, where do you put it?
a thought or an idea.
So for me, someone says something really cool. Or it's like, Man, you should watch this movie or do this thing, or have you seen that? Or did you know this actor played this part in this thing? Like, Oh, fuck, that's cool. I want to do something with that. What would you know? Yeah,
I don't usually go there. It's like, usually if it sticks, sticks, or, you know, it's like repetition. If I you know, if you're hearing about something which, which you can build a case for why that's just fine. And then why storing everything and collating all information and sort of, you know, having it able to serve back up Makes sense as well, I think there. But yeah, it's it's definitely like, I mean, these things aren't for everybody. But it's definitely for you like it sounds, it makes a lot of sense. It takes a lot of effort. There's a lot of effort in, in building out that second brain sounds well can
just be easy, like, so the drafts thing. Like I found that to be the easiest thing so far, which is just like, one central place where if I'm listening to so for instance, when with one, one trick, Tony, I'm working on on that with Tony and Mason. And so they'll send the audio to me, and I'm listening to the audio. And as I'm listening to the audio, I create my own show notes. And it's got no other purpose other than when we're, we're in a meeting, production meeting or giving feedback or thoughts. I have every single like if you listen to a podcast, how many times do you listen to a podcast? And you say that was great. There was heaps of interesting stuff there. Some of attented my mind or like entered my psyche or whatever, but I don't actually remember the specific points are yet 100%. And so what would it look like from an act? Like, from a listening perspective? if for every, every piece of content that you can choose that is sort of nonfiction or has written where it's sort of informational in its style, where you actually want to get something out of it? What would it look like to just have a simple notes? Where, like it because then you're connecting dots, you're like, Oh, this is interesting. They brought this up. Previously, you're there's like, it's a bit of a game and I think it probably plays into that connecting the dots thing that I love
100% I think that the baseline, reading a book, there's you start, you know, underlining shift in a book is The second thing that all probably well I see them
so for a long time. People think that reading a book feels tedious or feels annoying or feels like it's like it's not necessarily enjoyable. And for me, the bit that has changed that has just been the under like giving myself a focus. So if you're if your job is to underline the best bits, and you know that you could be using it later, you show up in a different way. Like if you're just reading like, you can be like, go to pages in and stuff What the fuck have I just read have completely forgotten like, or this hasn't sunk in at all. But if every page, you are underlining as you go on the key bits, I feel that you're actually getting a higher quality experience, which I think, yeah, I
think what you're fundamentally saying is there's a higher level of concentration, most of them most of our concentration is it's not, it's not great, and it's the rating and Balkan going off in thought, but you're still reading so you've still managed to get through a page but you're thinking about fucking what you're doing for dinner have
you and so this is that's the whole thing with the desserts like
I think that there you have it, you've read the page, you've read the words, but there's the task of you you don't read a book to do that you were able to consume the contents and the information and so yeah, that's why what what I'm saying is the underlining is a tool to make sure your concentration is so there's an action as well you know, as well as well as the ratings prehension that's it's pulling your mind pulling your focus and it's it's sort of resetting concentration every few seconds just on great yet not there yet. I've got to do that action. But then some people just like to fucking, you know, read and not do anything other than in the podcasting thing driving, just listening So there's that if you really want to learn what you're saying is exactly spot on, right? But maybe
it's not even when you are reading or listening, like the first step for some people might just be after you get into like, before you go from the car into work or wherever you've gone just like writing the notes of the things that stood out to you. Yeah.
Do a voice memo.
Yeah. And then like, drops. The sixth thing with drafts is that there is a in the widget, there's a microphone button and you press it and it transcribe like it just does it. It's like a dictation tool. So you can write a note it's they've also got an Apple Watch app. And so you, you say the thing it goes in as a note and then you Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Right? I am, was it cost a month
to dawn on him back at home? Yeah, it's I mean, there's there's also a free thing, but that's just the premium version. But I've just been so impressed in how drafts syncs on every single, like iOS like iPhone, iPad, Mac, and then also you can style it as well. So you can make it look exactly. So I used to use a writer, which is like a very minimal writing up. And now this I've designed, I loved the organisation of giraffes. And so now I changed all the settings to make drafts look like a writer with a benefit of all the organising.
Right, there's three brains between us. That's the good a good odds of working with us like the three brains for the price of two.
not why I haven't built it yet. I'm still still developing. It's still the I went for a walk this morning.
I know I said so. It's a first appearance.
Yes, firstly walk in we can so I did that one walk that I posted on Instagram.
With Bray, how long ago that really didn't that nearly didn't happen to
Yeah, so that walk was the last walk that I went on. And it was a 20 minute walk. And before that it had been two weeks or 10 days or something, I think was 10 days. And so that walk was July 26. Ah, so it was one month I haven't gone outside for a month.
Wow. And before there's time in your life, I reckon, like other than as a from the time that you started going to kindle. Now, I reckon you would have gone outside it at two weeks old. Like your mom would have taken you the first time in your life that you've stayed indoors for four weeks. pretty phenomenal. Did you even go down to get in the Uber Eats or didn't do that? You should have six brains by now with that time spent indoors.
It's Yeah, it is weird. But um, no, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. It was it was alright. I actually I really He like worked it out. I wore sunglasses to start with like I just couldn't be fat like looking at people and dealing with all those fucking went out with Sonny's and I was looking at his right now just know just like the fact and having a conversation or just I just worked it out pretty hard and so I
didn't rush over it Josh Josh Josh data while
I was waiting Bree was getting coffee for us. And I was just trying to fucking just standing away from the coffee shop probably 50 metres away. Just sort of like moving my legs like are stretching and I was just next to some beans. And then the Gabonese came to collect and so I had to sort of back and just like slowly sort of walk away from that. And then they did that and I walked back. And so one thing
I was surprised with the junkie in the blue jumper,
I definitely have not bought the thing that surprised me is something I've just realised today. I just assumed that there's like one Gabo that does the whole suburb, right. Like or like the whole country. So, when we were walking this morning, we saw like four different garbage trucks. There's a lot of Cabos. Did you know this?
Right? Yeah. I mean, the depends on the area. There's, um, you know, like some of the streets have different ones around here. Different track. It's actually garbage out here in Berlin. pumped about that, yeah. Took out that grain bin. So it's fired up.
The other thing I was just going to mention is that my fizzy water that I love the mountain Franklin, fizzy water on sale with Woolworths today. How much you can get let's have a look. So it was I think it's normally I braiser. Now, Franklin, I'm just looking at sparkling, sparkling cans. good price. I just wanted it. It's about it's a bargain. So we would go in and get it yesterday. And then Bray was like Just white. Yeah, so it's okay, it's on sale now. So it's half price. Mount Franklin, lightly sparking the big cans. So 370 5 million versus Yeah, this flavours lime I would recommend the lime and the raspberry gwright these a raspberry no sugar, but also like it's it's not like a diet soft drink where you're having all of the bad shit in it's literally like two things carbonated water and natural flavour which is that's what's in the 36365 Brandon we had at Whole Foods in LA but also that's what Lacroix is. And so I would recommend the raspberry and the lime. Mango is very good. The mango is in a smaller can they only do the real in little cans and so yeah, I'm hoping they bring the mango to the beer cans but right now so For a pack of 10 you're paying $6 15. So that was 1230 I can tell you the later age, so you're paying $1 64 per litre. But these are cans. You can
also hang you're paying two bucks a kid No, no, no no no. So how much do you think this should be a can per count? No. Is it going per litre? Fuck that per litre ej that's confusing because it's also that you pay sorry, you're paying getting two litre three. You're paying like 60 cents 70 cents. Is it 60 to 70 cents again? Because that's
just yeah, it's 6061 cents a sign of 10 you're paying 6661 cents, whatever. That's a fucking grind. I think so. It'd be like
for for people that are happy with tap water. You're making money drinking that shit.
Probably top zero or coke no sugars is cheaper, but you just feel like way way better drinking machine.
I you know what i bloody say it's a piss pisses me off the cokes more expensive. No sorry cokes cheaper than water than bottled water. Absolutely infuriated,
it's very upsetting. You can also get the ice go. So if you wanted to be probably more environmentally friendly, you could get your mount Franklin lightly sparkling water line so that line one is currently half price two in the litre 1.25 litre and that's $1 $1 27 for the bottle, which works out to be $1 and two cents per litre, versus what you're paying for the can is $1 64 but there is something very nice about the convenience of a Can I won't lie and we
do I think I feel like Ken's Go can le minimum can over plastic. I feel like it'll melt down. Is it more environmentally friendly? Kevin, I
think that the idea was the bigger bottle is that you're, you know all those smaller like if you get a big if you get like popcorn you get a little packets that's worse for you than getting a big bag of popcorn and then having your own reusable bags that you put it in.
Yeah, look, we are the environmental show. That's why we started this and I will always do what we do.
Definitely changing the world. So yeah, there's my The other thing is Woolworths do do a ray was just telling me on the walk like I think it's been $19 they have a subscription, which then gives you unlimited free delivery.
Fair enough. So that's a good thing. If you don't want to go to the shop, or just go down
there is there any consideration is the you might find that your local doesn't have stock Certain things I try
try. I haven't thought that hard about it. I usually just take what I can get at the local store. That works and it works. Anyway guys happy happy Hump Day. Hump Day replay has dropped Georgie boys killed it again. He's got the full gronk squad on that show.
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