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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 748 what's happening guys? What's going on Tommy jacket. Happy Tuesday. Great to be here

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in Melbourne. what he's trying to do is assume a positive attitude and hopefully it comes through in a more sort of tangible level within these within itself. Now it is it is great to be here wherever you are right now whether you're walking your dog is this the guy from Instagram from 2012 that, that he's now speaking Well, I feel like Josh Janssen is it. I feel like there's something nice in the leaning into the radio personality that tele style. Say what sleep is override. So override No, I don't know about now. I know. What are you talking? I'm absolutely joking. But he was up. He came into our bed last night and

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He has a so he could have mosey bought probably two months ago, maybe even more. And he's pulling a JJ and I'm pulling a link. He's scratching it. Oh, I have to get out. I have to say in the middle of a night, stop scratching. I feel like I'm Lynn Janssen. He this kid, this is the this is like a test of human repair ability. Because it's like him picking out it in the day versus how quickly can it heal in the night. And so it's become a tick for him where he's like scratching, it must be achieved. But it's not even that bad. It's not as bad anymore, but he's scratched new bits on it. And so he's script to design. Like he's, there was the multibyte and then there was the scratch line. And like he's created a new sort of Mark, that wasn't a multibyte and you're saying that it's work however, sleeping is overrated because you're not getting sleep. It was a joke.

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I was like it might I'm absolutely wretched. I know that he is doing that you must be getting up in the night and checking no he's coming on I'm not doing that he's coming into our bed to sleep in the middle of the night which it's hard to get him out straightaway because then he comes back in and I did get to a point where I was like you're out you're done talking back into his bed and he said getting get in and so I got in for a little bit. I thought I had him like you just you get into sleep rotten. And then I got out and I went downstairs to turn the heater on. Which you know, the ducted heating and next minute I just hear the door open as I'm walking up the stairs and he's back in our bed What time was 3:30am and that's like the last bit but then it was just it was horrific. So anyway, it's really feel the effects. I intuitively wore, I think it's because I'm tired. tracksuit pants. Like yesterday you were in your in your full frackie get out

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as well. I think I didn't even I was just like I thought they're a great idea. But now in hindsight

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Because you're tied and you're making decisions that are based on you being tired in the morning, well, the only reason that I felt justified wearing them yesterday was because they're cottoned on and because they gave them to us, I thought, like, this is me just you know, representing a brand deal. But because I would dirty I didn't feel comfortable doing that with my regular. You shouldn't go to work in something that you sleep in. As a general rule. Yeah, yes. Not the cotton, the cotton on ones of my good ones. I've got some other ones where you sleep in their tracks for a long time. I didn't have tracksuit pants. Really? I've only discovered tracksuit, these shorts are the big shorts guy. Well, I was actually the kid that would

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wear shorts for every occasion. It was. I was one of the only kids in school. Do you remember that? It was how uncool it was to wear shorts.

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There was a kid. But do you actually remember that? You can say no, I don't remember that.

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Cool as he was in with the school uniform. Yeah, yeah. So it was very it was

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really weird went to some sort of public school public school. I went to a public school. Yeah. Now we didn't have school uniforms. In fact, in even in primary school, we had like a red t shirt that that they told you to wear, but no one wore it. So our principal would pay us 10 cents to wear it.

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How would you get my town in a little raffle ticket for the for the campaign Assembly on Monday mornings, whoever was in their red shirt, they'd walk around and give you a little little ticket. Oh, that's great. That's it. But then the rest of my school through high school, not uniform. Yeah. And so what would you wear? I'm guessing there's a fair bit of pressure involved. Well, looking back, it wasn't good. It was a lot of pattern like button ups and, you know, shorts and we eat and you're the you're probably the most fashionable guy. I mean, the guy who Be careful with it.

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It was fashionable guy you know, in in our, in our in our room now team and fashionable meaning you take chances and you wear things that all of us wouldn't but you pull it off. I think I pretty much just go for plane now. today. Yeah, just plain plain hoodie. plantation but the shirts you wear the jackets you have on unknown any of that stuff. Yeah, that's like edgy. Thank you.

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Well, I had I mean we've spoken a lot about rebrands over the course of season we saw I mean it's not a competition but I'm pissed.

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I posted my T guy video where I made the play. And and then you came through with a post of you. The the tea guy which was you in 2012 Yeah, we're 11 Yeah, we're 2011 wearing one of the cutest little, you know, shirt and instead of what is it like a neat neat shirt, a nice brand.

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I don't know was it Ralph Lauren? Yes. Was it Paul's Tommy Hilfiger Tommy Hilfiger could have been a the rebellious heel but I'm sure it was a DFO job. You know, man I got I was worried as soon as he posted that I commented and said, I hope this if this gets more likes than my video, I'm gonna be pissed. And sure enough, man got 60 and yours got 155 but then someone also thought it was me posting it in fat shaming you. Is that what I'm pretty sure because then someone else in there right. So this is hilarious Tommy. So I had nothing to do with this. And what's the if you just post a photo of me from like, from 2011 I happened to be fat. Is that really fashion I make any fashion? I mean, when you point out that it's

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Arik in the fat person that pointed out that someone was doing fat shaming is the fat shaming or maybe it was because I went down the rabbit hole of thinking maybe this is about the shower, and I got really like I was in the shower like I got home. It was pissing down with Ryan on the way

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Did you get wet I got sucked yeah walking home and so I got really soaked as well and straightaway got home had that sort of hot shower reminded me of playing footy. Yeah. Like I have a shorts on or whatever and you get muddy and wet and you're freezing and then you have a hot shower and you see the steam? Yes. Yeah, it was a hot chips waiting for you.

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That was that was the deal.

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And so I was I was thinking about I was like,

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I got defensive around the fat shame comment because what I was thinking was I was like,

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and it's a I guess a decent question if you are

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overweight, or if you have been so for me like a lot of the shame is me personally, right. I was like, I was shame I felt being overweight. Do I get a free ticket to fat shame yourself all as well.

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familia I think that whenever we do it it's always based on mate like my personal Yeah, I mean you're only ever speaking to your your part and I don't care. The other thing too is I don't care if you're fat. I care if I'm

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if I get fat. Yeah, absolutely. Georgie boy, what do you mean, you're the voice of reason on the show?

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Well, for me Luckily, I've never had to deal with weight. And luckily, it is. Yeah.

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For some reason, but

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if you want to fat shame yourself. I think that's okay. Well, I it's like, you know, coal with you. It's it's a bit rich too. So tell somebody not to fat shame themselves. If that's what they mean. It's, I think it's advised that you shouldn't do it can be a bit toxic for your own self. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I said the right thing just then.

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I know, I know. I haven't thought about it. But this is a tough topic to be able to discuss. I mean, we don't want to discuss

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whites. It's not why it is not about business. But then at what point is someone very unhealthy, and I'm only talking about someone that you love, and it'd be a real issue. It'd be really shoe as a parent having a child as a, you know, a, as a child having a parent that is severely or morbidly obese and your interest is in their health, and then being around to see you grow up or your kids grow up. And so then, can we not talk about that? I don't know. I don't know the answer. Because I think,

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you know, politically correct, well, we can't Yeah, and it's got to a point where you, we can't discuss any of those things. But then I don't know how advantageous that is

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to the population that is really unwell in that regard. And so it's a it's a sensitive topic like the I heard someone speak about over in the states there's been care packages for people affected by Coronavirus and losing their ink.

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And it was like this great service where they're going around, say, places like on the outskirts of New York City, and they're saying, we're getting your food for you. You don't have to leave the house we get to common deliver it. And the person that created this charity was so so upset because everything on the list was Pop Tarts was waffles was high sugar. And it's like, at a time when we're at such risk, I mean that he bought them for these people. Yeah, but it was like, Oh, my man, this is so much beyond just eat healthy. You know, it's like, that's really sort of ingrained into them. your upbringing in what I mean. It's Yeah, but then on the other hand, yeah, well, because I get I think part of it maybe is that there's the feeling that if you are overweight, that you attach it to laziness or things like that. There's obviously there's people with thyroid issues or even the the mental struggle of trying to eat healthy is hard. Yeah, yeah.

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It's never it's it's never a problem to be more sensitive. Like I think it's it's a good thing to be more empathetic about people's situation. So rather than just saying you're fat and you're lazy, it's like it doesn't work like that. It's not as simple as that. Yeah. And I get the

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I have had pushback in myself leaning into the Accept. And maybe this is self destructive. Maybe this isn't good, but I don't necessarily want to lean into the acceptance of my wife because it feels like and then I'm never going to address it and I think addressing it is a good thing. This is a question because I haven't been

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at a weight that you have.

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Do you feel like at 125 kilos which the heaviest Did you feel like if anyone referenced something to do with all he was talking about white around you and wasn't

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In the conversation directly about you, did you feel like it was about you? Did you feel like eyes were on you? Because that's how I think, well, that I could be at that's how I think I could affect somebody is by talking about why, and they overhear you thinking he's talking about me about it. I think that like, for me, it was such an identity thing. Like I was the kid that would say, Hi, look how quickly I can eat this ice cream. And so like leaning into that, and even like, I think that some of these habits don't leave you like being someone who has struggled with their weight. I feel like the

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when people are finishing their food or what like if there's the leftovers, I remember as a kid, it was always like, oh, like, he ate that, like you waiting that and i would i would have that and I feel like that was a habit that was sort of

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grinding, like identity stuff and all that sort of thing. But whereas I think there are, there are positive habits where it's like, just by default, just because there's food there doesn't mean you need to eat

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So like, say for instance, on

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Saturday when we're doing the working day or whatever, and you buy chips and all that sort of thing, it's like, there is this automatic thing in me, which is like, I've gotta have to cheat. Like, you just got to eat whatever's there. where it's like, it's it takes active thinking for me. But to answer your question, yeah, I think

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we're hypersensitive to No, no, no, because I was more sensitive, like I was more sort of sensitive to myself or like, I'm negative towards myself with it all. So I understood. I understood if someone said that I sort of got it and understood it, which is why like, I find it interesting. When you hear people say, I'm like, I'm completely happy with the white than I am.

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If that makes me feel uncomfortable, like so say, if you're overweight, if you are morbidly obese, and it's just like I'm happy, the exact like exactly how I am.

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For me what I associate that with ease,

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you've lost hope in making positive change. I think it's very difficult because there is a huge amount of vanity. Like what I'm seeking isn't necessarily health as it is like wearing clothes, it feel good to fit in, right? Because like for me, my wife is also associated with what I wear, which is how I walk and how I talk. And so it's all ingrained in all of that other stuff. It's like when I was a kid, we never bought me nice clothes, because it was always well, Josh is gonna outgrow the clothes. It's like, why would you invest nice clothes into this body? And so I think that for me like that, there's and that's not necessarily there could be another side of it, which is

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awesome. Maybe you should buy not me like you watch Queer Eye for the straight

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Guy, whatever, when I was a kid that was like the thing I used to love watching, and they would be very money 11 Look, Yeah, it is. That was the you know, even prior the 2006 you know, going casual school day, you know where what you want and I were like, the strike the vertical stripe. I was wearing a T shirt to you, right? Because it was

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it's your rights business. Yeah. And so yeah, I mean, the thing is, I said this on discord is it's like, um,

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I, yeah, I've gotten very comfortable with my ad. This is how I feel this is my, this is my opinion of myself. This is how I this is what I'm reconciling. It feels like it would be unfair to which I think we've done before, which is like, shut up about it. Have that battle at home, have the battle like, you know, there's that there's a lot of people who won't eat around people, and then they'll go and now stuff their faces and

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That sort of thing. Like a lot of the, the damage happens after 8pm.

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And so and it is it feels I think maybe because it is an external thing you can really like you can see it. It's easier for like, there is like an extra level of judgement because you can see it happening. And there's like so many stories around, like, similar to like think about what how I am when it comes to episodes. I'm like, Episode 800 I want this like it to be this or to do that or by Episode 900. Like that's been my that's been my wife. Like, that's what my wife's been. It's been like, when I get to 85 kilos. I'm buying new clothes, like I think that's like, how many people I want to accommodate the gronk have said I'm not going to buy nice clothes now because I don't plan on buying this. This body this way. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure what's insecurity one

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I mean, we've spoken a lot about mine security's. Sam's Where are you? Where do your insecurities lie?

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I mean, there's

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I think that the more that I haven't been to the gym just being at home I think I've, I think I've realised that there's actually more of a body image insecurity that you have. And so the Yeah, the, the idea of me not training is I guess like, it's Yeah, it affects the way that I perceive myself. So it's not training brings it on. Hmm. Yeah, so when I'm not training, it's like, Oh, hang on, like, like, my abs have gone down. It's it's and it's like, yeah, I mean, it sounds so dumb, right? Everything's right. You still get ABS but it's like yeah, it's just like that dumb stuff. Well, because if you do like that's what like cuz I definitely remember the frustration where you would hear people like I'm trying to put on white like jack post is one of those guys who was like, he's been trying it like you

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He's human. I was like, he was going to the gym to try and bulk up and gain weight. And I was always like, Man, what I would do to just, you know, be in that position, but everything's relative, right, which I think he's the bit that I'm wary of is it's like, so you've got like, even if you've your lane and all that sort of thing, you are still perceiving yourself in that negative way. Yeah. And that body dysmorphia, I think I become more vain The more I train and get a better physique,

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the worse physique, I'm just like, less thought about it. And so it's in it Yeah, interesting, because it's the opposite. I mean, I still do think about it if I'm not training and then but when I am in that mode, pulls me back. It's like Mike Tyson saying when he boxes it brings out his ego. Well, yeah, there's definitely the like, it's like a connector to something. And training can be the connected to vanity. But there is an element of

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Getting in the gym It is like help it's advantageous with goal setting and seeing progress. Likewise, the opposite but it's so complex, you know, it's like that is we cannot compare our body to someone else's body. Like there's something have more similar versions.

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It's you know, and so that's where it is hard. It is a comparison trap if you're zooming out slightly if you're looking at jack posting. Well, I think that part of it also is that you end up like from an idea so much of it is identity. So it's saying okay, like I'll, I can be super helpful. Like I remember just like, feeling like you have to make up for it. It's like, Okay, well, if I'm not going to tick these boxes, I better be good. Like I reckon as a kid, like my obsession with technology and stuff is I will fuck like, what am I going to be good at? What can I What can I do? But it's interesting because I think like Brian, I very, I think why

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have become more comfortable with it in regards to talking about it, or being not apologetic, but just being like, let's let me talk about my experience, rather, because I think that there's definitely don't tell Josh how to think about how when he was, yeah, well, I think that's the thing. Like, it's like, no, this is bad. He can't be talking about this. And it's like, my brain has this the same issues, right? Which is just like, and it's also the same. There's so much habitual stuff. I'm like, I'm sure that this is more common than, like, the eating, like just being like, you know, what, like, how many times have have we said, Oh, you know, what, like, Monday, like, we have these great conversations. They're so productive. And it's like, yeah, so we're gonna dial this in, and it's gonna be really good. And we're going to and it's like, yeah, and we so we agree. And then like, we're like, Okay, good. It's like, Well, what do we want our last meal to be? Ah, the amount of times we've had how

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last meal yeah

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I even like waffles item Whopper on Sunday.

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Yeah, it's fucking putrid. The

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the patty was quite grind I had one i thought was gonna shoot my pants.

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Got it in their

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self in their little Georgia boy wants to can you relate to any bit like what do you have any insecurities like this sort of thing? body image insecurities. I mean a little bit just like everyone else but probably more. It's more putting yourself out there and securities, I guess. And it's getting easier and easier after doing this show. But, you know, that's probably the biggest one is just just worrying about what people think of you. And when you put yourself out there, I think that's your identity. For me. It's it's the work that you're putting out. Is there any negative stuff that you think about? Like what are the negative things that you think people are saying or thinking about you because I know I can listen

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But

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I actually don't know it's just it's just more like people will think stuff is shit and that's fine

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but it's annoying so yeah to be secured like so on the spectrum like I've always said that you've got quite a good sentiment is that that like

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temperament temperament Thank you sentiments because we've been speaking with Ryan

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temperament temperament Thank you very sort of. And I think that that's part of it maybe like I think that because maybe you have less negative self talk yeah you're less likely to

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to like in need to express it in some way. Yeah I guess yeah, I try to not be negative, but

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I'm an anxious guy I reckon like that's the thing it's like, about what though, and just about saying the right things and making people happy and putting stuff out

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They're that people like and that I like and all these things. people pleaser. Yeah, I reckon I am, is that most of us are Yeah, at some level trying to which is something I'm trying to not be as much of because you know you're to please yourself first I guess

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I guess we could

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be selfish

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yeah I think it's put the put the face mask on yourself first you know the yeah the whole thing Yeah, I think for you Josh you have the joke is that I'm perfect which

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yeah

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no but that is you You're great at identifying things in people that they might not even realise like I'm How much have you thought George about? I didn't looking at yourself like that. Talk about talking about it like this. Yeah, I haven't thought about too much details. Like we call it out as in in in a nice way.

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Like the other dude whose mood is pretty, pretty steady? Like, what do you blow up? And it was a thing you never like, haven't seen you blow up still waiting. Yeah, love to say that. But you the perfect thing is definitely linked to

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insecurity. I haven't seen it as an insecurity. But it's probably one of these, but I haven't associated, it being the way, you know, how I thought an insecurity might play out, you know, like insecure about your body is a different version to insecurity about an internal processing. And so that internal processing could be people pleasing, which is an insecurity but for me, it's like

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doing stuff right or being perfect, whatever that version of whatever you think that is, I think is quite accurate. I don't know how to articulate it quite well, but it's the image it's the how people see you. It's the you know, it's like a

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was that Windows? Yeah, it's actually gone through the stream.

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Got a Windows Update. But you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't even know how to quite articulate it. But that's the insecurity for me, I think, is the Well yeah, I guess there's the

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like, I think that for you and I, when we've spoken at around, you've got a, you had a great network when we started. And a lot of the sort of

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work connection started off with friendships. And so when it's based on friendship, you weren't necessarily always feeling like nepotism or whatever, has a negative side to it, which is like, if you've got skills, if you think that you are the right person, and someone says, Hey, I'm hiring you this, you know, hiring you for this job, because I like you. That becomes its own identity issues because it's like, you have good skills like it's not like, like when people say I would communicate that I feel like I would push back on it because like, no, you're also

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The person for the job? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then it's success too, right. It's like, I think I've put emphasis on achieving, you know, like the, the path that we choose ends up being one of, you know, the external validation and that being views or likes or people liking you. And so then that is a version of

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serving the perfection. So it's like, I can do the thing, you know. And I think I've got it before it's a problem, where I really I'm wrapped up in that isn't in terms of my identity, and you just you see the sort of uselessness of it really, and not serving you. does serve you to a degree because you end up having wins and you know, when someone says that, this is your fucking year. Do you like it? Fuck yeah, like in that I even remember that as a moment. Someone said that to me. And lots of good things happen that year. And I was like,

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You know that's that's ego yeah almost. Also you're you're very good at like looking at the positives and things yeah. And I think maybe that's why we work well together because I'm always like, Oh no, we need to be doing better or no we can't like as soon as we take something and celebrate it when like slowing down or dropping the ball Yeah, I'll tell you what I've dropped the ball and they do a bin for them shout out before you do the photo shout out. Do it now. There

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The Daily talk show.com you'll have it from next week. Sorry to get that in the same

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order Bobby's gonna make money. Randy might didn't like that megaphone technique. You didn't know why it was your actual vocals were sort of bleeding through it. So it's fine.

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To learn, you know, live in. Yeah, unless you do something different next time. I will. It's this thing effectively. So he's using TJ is using a D extend, which allows you to sort of place the megaphone at waist height to shooting from the hip. Yes.

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Actually, I got a call to tell you, Georgia boy and says I got a call from Ben.

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And he called I was like, once a house photo got time, like he's just got a new show. He had the premier of New South Wales. He had the the Prime Minister, Prime Minister of the country and now he's called

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In gronk Janssen What time is he calling you would have been like 514 bedtime. It was

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it was it was when I was walking home. And he said, I'm I'm happy. Yeah. At first the funny thing is when he calls I sort of feel like explaining like this isn't recorded you know this isn't being recorded because

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security they've been folded doesn't lock you as a person. Oh, no, it's because he's like, he's taking the whole thing. Very, very seriously, right?

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I was I was worried he's I was worried that you grumps weren't going to

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to get the job done. I listened in I heard it. I'm liking what I'm hearing.

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Yes.

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I'm just walking at the moment for days. Oh, yeah, it was very good.

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He's a businessman. He's a business isn't gonna buy another week. Well, they'll buy another week. But I did mention I said to him

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How about that contrast? How about the potential of getting the daily talk show mentioned on to JB, that's huge. That's a big win for the boys. And so he said he thinks that he could do it. He thinks that maybe the way of incorporating it is saying something like, you know, it's been a I've done everything. It's been a big week. Yeah, I've even sponsored a megaphone on a podcast called the daily talk show, which I feel like is a good he needs to work out a way of doing it, in fact, right. Like he needs to sort of incorporate it in a way rather than a promo, if anything, what we love is people talking about the megaphone in the most serious manner, our accountants in for them on talkback radio. What's another way like what's another way of getting on talkback? What can we do?

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in Tokyo, Milan? I think Mike, how do we how do we do something so outrageous or fun? that fordow would actually be like, hey, the producers calling would love to have you on talking about it? Yeah. Well, I mean, there's the

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It's been used up last week was saves on FM talking about his relationship to not a not a me enough. Yeah, yeah what something like mmm

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hmm, something COVID related.

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Yeah, I mean, there's a lot going on in the world at the moment. I feel like we're sort of back end of the priority and the importance. I mean, he's covering some big topics on that show. I'll be thanking my lucky stars if we can get on that chair. Or maybe it's better if we don't get mentioned

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for mentioned, but just it's been fought a movie out of dropping it. I've been on the show before. Have you been you? I feel like I have we. The podcast he was talking about podcasting. I last night, I decided you know what I'm like with my subscriptions. I've added to my subscriptions. I added the age because I've hit the limit and I was very I'm very happy. I don't know who mentioned the age. I think I did.

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Isn't it?

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Isn't it crazy though, that like these things that would be considered just common knowledge? Like a newspaper, like a local newspaper? Like it's just gone over my head for all these years, like I'm turning 30 this year? Yeah, but Welcome to the club on the 774 I may say in the morning like the last time I would have read the age would have been like doing like a critical piece in your 10 English. Yeah, we had to read an article. What is it? What is it about?

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What is it about the age that you love? So I guess I guess I get I get the different sort of angles and perspectives. Is it aligning with your political views? No, sir. No feeling it's, um, there's more sort of

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thought provoking topics, but also, like, um, I feel like on us come to you. I never know what's happening in Victoria. In regards like you only hear of something like a drug dealer.

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kills these partner or something right? Whereas on the age it was like are he is these plant like Daniel Andrews is hired he's mate yeah and like you know and as you don't hear much I guess because you come today you like I'm pretty dumb but you're calm day you I guess a national

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tabloid is that what you'd call a tabloid? They had a tabloid site I don't know site

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so

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why

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I mean work for a construction company and they're doing a development just on our streets, other side of Pretoria straight and that we're pulling up you know doing sort of demolition inside and they ripped up the floorboard, the carpet and then underneath the carpet back in the old day, rather than sort of like some sort of liner like a you know, squishy one they usually use newspaper. So Amy, Amy

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took from the site, these big sheets of old newspaper and it was yellow back in the day. And I've seen this before. I know I just assumed that it goes yellow. I cannot confirm. I'm sure. Based on the age of the paper, well, I would guess. Yep. Well, I said yellow. And then I just was taking a pen. I was like, yeah, yellow. And she's like, yeah, yellow. I've got it on my desk. So I've just asked her to send me a message with a photo of something she said back. She said the one that she's the one on the desk is like talking about the cutest shit. It's like, you know, Jill and Bill are moving from Tamworth down to Victoria this week. And they're like, it's that's the news. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, it's sweet. It's very sweet. So hopefully I can hopefully within the show, I can get a little snippet and read out something from 1940 Brees being very good, with like dialling in the subscriptions and making sure that they're all accounted for that we've got a spreadsheet and

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Has everything listed great. And the funny thing was I used

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she gets she realises what I'm doing straightaway when I pull the credit card out. So when I pull the credit card out, I've got my phone she's always asked, What are you doing and say the two things only Fanjul.

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Another one

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and no so I, I thought I was being clever because I, I used Apple,

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the Apple Pay thing like using like through in app purchase. Yeah. And so I was like, you're just being deceptive. Not

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funny. So I do that. And so I'm on my phone. I've just signed up. So I'm in bed. Just doing I click it and I'm feeling really good. And I've got articles and I look over to Bray, and she's on her phone. What are you doing and she has her spreadsheet open. She's at the age 749 she saw everything I was doing and she's putting it in to the to the spreadsheet. What are you at what's your number because I want the my video idea for you years ago. This is

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Before you had it in, I had it sort of handled. My idea was, let's get, you know, cards, write out all the subscriptions, put them up on the wall, like a web like we're doing 160 a month 160 a month of subscriptions solely for to do some pieces. How many are active as is consuming at a

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percentage wise, how about this? Here's a good little. Yeah, life hack.

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Did you know that I think you have to be signed up to audible in one of their subscription things. But um, they give New York Times digests on audio form. And so last night when I went to bed, I got like 50 minutes of the top stories of the New York Times read out to me, I've been sleeping well. That's fine. I just have it. The problem was I lost one of my air pods last night last night Even

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if it was

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hard like it was pulled apart everything it turns out was this unbrace side of the bed but was the last place we checked because when you fall asleep with them it is difficult. wow I've got I've got this you can't really see it but it's like that this is a nice paper or an old ads what is the ad for the cartoon dude with this goal to the greatest football picture ever made brown and Harvard heights it's a cinema I'd like an ad a hand drawn ad for movie wow Leggett's American mighty dollar night tonight. What all paths palace St Kilda perfect flute like this is just adds, well, it's all hand drawn. There's no printing of photos on here. That is cool.

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What they what they're planning on doing is framing it and then putting it into the building that they're developing. Like a he's a bit of history from the building. I mean, what's what's that for us are anti

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semitic jokes.

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Picture of George in his in his bunker, his little studio downstairs. I remember we found newspapers Not me, but my sister found newspapers under this house that they

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our friend was renting and yeah it's crazy it was like Don Bradman scored 100. Like that. stories about Hitler. Wow, that might have meant that I'm not sure.

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That sounds good. You're wearing a different hat today George new hat. Mom got him a hat

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is it? Yeah, it's car hot. It's a good it's a beanie brand. I think they do a bunch of stuff well, and it's cold dry. Quarter. Quarter Are you are the only guy on the team that would wear corduroy and that's

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what is it a solid quarter or is it got no quarter word, corduroy, whatever you order. Is it a date? I think I'm probably rambling.

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ROI Can you look at a quarter ROI

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yeah when I was a kid I said code quarter ROI quarter ROI mega

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millions millions millions millions and millions of cold corduroy I didn't have some some of those pants anyway ones back in the day though yeah did you not nowadays now I bought some in 2012 from America and it's just about being in America thinking that you cooler than you are and you get hired me like absolutely not what

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I mean how is it How old are like Georgie boy when it comes to subscriptions and news and how much he considering all of this stuff. subscriptions or news or both? Both subscriptions I've got quite a few as well.

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I don't think I'd have $160 worth but I've probably got 7070 would be gone. Just like all the streaming services.

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We got the lightest one binge now haven't got binge eating again.

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No, not interested. Well, so serves Grace is a bit of a spender. She's.

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She's got binge? I think so I think she's got the for 14 days. So what is it so she's got binge? Yep. Stan Stan, but she's also you who would have a and then Netflix? Yeah, I mean that's pretty standard. A lot of people have a lot of streaming at Amazon, Stan. Hey you. Okay, what are you using for Hannah loves it? She watches it's reality TV. Yeah, it's quite good. Like maybe I need to get it out Yeah, but I

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just know many people who've got new subscriptions like, what's what's the pushback against IBC? Like what's Why do I put this in there? Yeah, so that's what I mean. So why why why would you sign up someone? I basically I don't know what they're offering is there's no it's free. It's a bit what is the behind the paywall? That Josh law Yeah, that's the whole joke he's getting more technically is if you feel like you're getting more value out of the

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I thought I was like, I am slightly uncomfortable consuming shit for free based on how they listening to this.

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Like how they making like, if you want top quality journalism government funded, it's top quality. Sure. That's how

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literally I'll be interested to say the funding is probably very similar to what someone like the IHS. Okay, like in terms of like resources, I think it'd be very similar. So do you think I should I should move to go just just chill. Take a look at the articles on ABC when you go to bed or whenever you look at the news?

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shine, you don't buy like the reason brands do lighting? Again, no, I think it's actually working though. You buy a Ferrari for a reason. It's about the brand. And so what's the eBay say if the age is a Ferrari, you just think that the money like there's some connection between you spending seven

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unbox a month connecting to the quality of the not saying it's real it's just you and what you you it's is really the ABCs like catching the tram

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that's not offensive trams are great. No but Ramsey in the free zone

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thing is there were a lot of like a lot of wealthy people who choose the tram over driving from like an environmental perspective now so yeah, and so I like the tram is

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it's not there's no status to a tram there's all different there's rich this poor there's everywhere money in between on a tram like the IBC and say you're you're an elitist at the I

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would never catch a fucking train. wreck the

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Uber black. I feel like the rating the age would 100% get behind the tramp, but ya know, it was

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When I was reading it,

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like, last night, I was thinking to myself, I'm like, man, how fucking dumb was I before the age?

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I'm just like, what was I reading? Like? This is? This is journalism. We have like Patreon subscriptions. Yeah. Do you fit? Does it? Is there a difference in how you feel other than supporting, you might say Valerie like that. What do you feel like when you pay seven bucks a month to get exclusive access to content? Yeah. What does it make you feel? Well, I think that part of it, I think about how much did an album used to how much would an album cost back in the day back in 2008? Yeah, I remember actually. It was like 1990 just even the standard one. Yeah. 20 bucks. Like, comparatively, content is very, very, very chayton. Then what it's what it's been, and So at what point

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Can you make free content paid content? Because I guess that's the predicament brands that offer free stuff, you know, for a long time, and then take it behind a paywall. I think it's because they need to make the money to be able to pay the people that are in there how they can as a consumer. What does it for you What takes the box of going? Yes, it's worth being paid for. Yes. What is that for you?

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So for D Avella, he's doing exclusive content. That's just for Patreon that's very inside baseball. Showing the tech extra Q and A's. I like that stuff.

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niche niche access. Yeah. But there's I think there's a bunch of people I recommend even Kevin Rose, if Kevin Rose had a subscription that I had paid for. I'd pay for that. I'd pay for that. Yeah, like I reckon Georgie boy, anyone, any content creator that if they can

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Mountain said 10 bucks a month to sign up and you get exclusives from them. would you do it? Any any? Well, the only one that I've paid for is the Hamish and Andy app. I've paid for that too, which is like 14 a year. But yeah, the West i think is like 70. Yeah.

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But

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that's, that's probably that's probably it to be honest. Do you think in the future it's people going to be more primed to be paying the subscription level for everything. So for all of their favourite creators?

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Surely, there's got to be some sort of global platform that manages it all. Because I think part of it is the annoyance of like, I think the nap stuff helps. But the problem is that it's um,

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we're giving a bunch to the to Apple, and that's what I think the a Triple C Have you guys seen this about? There's a bunch of negotiation that's happening at the moment with media companies and facebook, facebook in Australia, yet some

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like huge amounts of revenue here. Yeah. It's like, well hang on if they're if people are on the platform to then go to these places for content, should they not be sharing that cash sharing the revenue? which I think makes sense. Yeah. I mean that that's what brave. The browser is there for. I mean, drive. So there's, it's, it's like a fork of Google Chrome. It's a fork. It's like they've taken the codebase and then just edit it and modified it to however they want. Is it Google?

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No, it's a different company, but same same look and feel Firefox or Chrome based on ripoff artists. No, I'd say it's like,

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yeah, it's like, you could create, you could take WordPress, you could say, I'm gonna make a specific version, a content management system that's for real estate agents. And so you could use all the code in WordPress, and create something and fork it to something else. Okay. Well, for instance, it's like if you had an app that required chrome

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You could fork that version of Chrome. And we could have the daily talk show browser, which is has some extra features or things like that. Yeah. And so anyway, we'll say so they've I think they've got brave rewards, which is essentially like microtransactions. So every time you visit a publishers website, and they set up with brave, you're giving, it's based on like crypto currencies and stuff, but you're giving a micro transaction to them. And so they're earning they're earning money through traffic and through views directly.

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And that's what Mike mill is doing with video as well. Like he's doing stuff with like paying

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creators buy gets small amounts. Well, not even small amounts, like subscription type thing where it's all within an app. Sam Harris does the subscription model but also donation model, and also offers it for free if you can't do either of those. But it's amazing, right like you can pay to have access to his full

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podcasts. And, again, I on the site. There's just like no questions asked if you can't pay for it, just click here as I click there. And then it sent me this thing where I opened up the podcast app. And then it took me to a whole new feed like this. I've never seen this before. So in private podcasts, it's like a private podcast feed. And then you've got like, his black logo, which is unpaid and red logo, which gets full feed is really interesting. All these sort of new models that are coming out, it feels like and that's why when you talk about audience, scale actually becomes a thing. Because it's like, Okay, well, if you want to make money, you just need more people paying you the seven $7 a month or whatever it is.

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Yeah, I do want to like look at something like Sirius XM in the US, which has Howard Stern, or even, I guess Spotify, you're still going to be able to access all of Joe Rogan

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Content

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alone that people are saying Joe Rogan's with $5 billion, but it's just that's the headline and then you go into it. It's like, the share price of Spotify that went up. What's that worth? And then connect it to Joe and the deal that he made.

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Yeah, yeah, it's like the I get a rich list like they just make shit up. Yeah, yeah. Do I need to do another one before we go? Sure, dude. He's onto it, isn't it? Oh, sorry. Sorry guys need to pull up the script.

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The screen cannot be trusted. So I'm like

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10 seconds of admin. Did you know you can actually subscribe? It's a podcast, you can do it. And also give us a review at Apple podcasts. Thank you. And guess what? It's free.

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You ungrateful Fox.

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completely free and you haven't even left a review. Now think about it for a second

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time the energy

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button clicks nothing like appointing listeners into leaving.

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Which I just wanted to say I'm grateful for

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that right? Yeah. Have you ever caught an ungrateful fuck as a kid? I was. Definitely not. Definitely

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didn't swear at me only in the worst moments. So I had a few of those. That is the rationale I give myself when I'm feeling not confident about something. I was like. You getting this for free. Yeah.

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Good self talk.

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