We chat about people wanting to fight, a FND announcement, a Megaphone Sponsor website page, facial hair, and being the routine guy.
Show Notes
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At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –Tommy describes two separate near-altercations with strangers during lockdown, speculating that pandemic stress is making people 'go fucking mental'
- –The team discusses buprenorphine, a heroin-withdrawal drug that has become a black-market commodity and dependency issue inside prisons
- –Friday Night Drinks is being relaunched as a monthly, themed event starting at 8pm instead of a weekly occurrence
- –The Megaphone naming-rights webpage now has an MVP with a leaderboard, and sponsor Venture IP offers hosting discounts via promo codes
- –Mason commits to growing facial hair for two months without shaving, prompting a grooming and beard-dye discussion
- –The Chris Hemsworth fitness app's free-trial model is criticised as a 'gronk move' because cancelling requires matching the platform you signed up on, leading to unexpected charges
Questions this episode answers
What happened during Tommy Jackett's two near-fights in episode 733?
Tommy describes almost getting into a confrontation with an angry stranger outside Coles in Bulleen after a late-night shop, and separately a driver making aggressive gun gestures at him while he was out running and mistook the driver for someone he knew.
What changes were announced to The Daily Talk Show's Friday Night Drinks?
Friday Night Drinks will move from a weekly event to once a month, become more significant with a theme each time, and start at 8pm instead of earlier.
Why was the Chris Hemsworth app controversial on the show?
Hosts discussed that Hemsworth's app offered a free 6-week trial but required credit card details upfront, and cancelling had to be done on the same platform used to sign up or users would be charged a full year's subscription, which they called misleading.
Episode TranscriptShow
Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 733. What's happening, guys?
Josh: What's going on?
Tommy: Happy Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday. Fired up, absolutely fired up for the week.
Josh: How about you're talking about the sticky date pudding you had last night?
Tommy: Yeah, we, um, we had a legal, a legal dinner party last night that consisted of Jemma Watts, Bodie Jacket, Amy Jacket, Tommy Jacket, Olivia Hooker. So there was, you know, they're just the names if you needed sort of to know the guest list. But it's, um, it was great. It was absolutely phenomenal. Drank some Mum. Mum.
Josh: Oh yeah, and was that supplied by Jem K Watts?
Tommy: We brought the Mum. Jem bought the Penfolds. Turns out she's been sponsored by Penfolds or been given Penfolds. That is a deal you want. You want Penfolds as a sponsor, like they've got some great wines. Great one. So yeah, yeah, my guts are feeling a bit funny. I think I just ate too much shit over the weekend.
Josh: So is Georgie Boy— is your video frozen already? Just a little.
George: How's that happen? Can you hear me?
Mason: Yeah, we can hear you fine. Yeah, we got you.
Josh: That's quite funny. That's okay, you try and work it. I was thinking we should get you a dummy battery. So the way— a little tech insight— the way this all works is we all have fancy cameras that are plugged into our computers. Now we all have power so that, um, they can run forever. Georgie Boy is using a battery, and so sometimes his battery runs out, and so we need—
Mason: He's hot swapping like 7 batteries at a time.
Tommy: It's on brand, Georgie Boy. Tech problems are definitely part of his core value.
George: We're gonna reload, guys.
Tommy: We're, um, we're, you know, quite up and about. Tell you what, mate, I've nearly been in two fights in the last week out in the wilderness. And in previous lives, as in just many years ago when I was just a different Gronkh— still a Gronkh but different one— I, I would, I would try— I think it would have had something to do with me. That these people wanted to fight me. Like, I must have been doing something.
Josh: Now it's not you?
Tommy: No, I cannot— can I— I'll lay out the two situations, and I think this is just how people— there's a potential just someone gets killed. You know how we're talking about like locking your doors and shit? You do all the precautions, but then there's just crazies out there. And so I've sort of extrapolated from these two incidences to COVID-19 and people just going fucking mental.
Josh: Sure.
Tommy: Coles— I was at Coles New World the other day What's New World?
George: What's the new one?
Tommy: That was the, that was the name of it about 15 years ago. Coles New World. And horrible name. Coles is better. At Coles, Bulleen. And Amy and I are having this joyous time together. We were so happy. We got there at like 9:50. We decided to go at 9:48 and got down there and beat it before they closed at 10 PM. And we got in, got out, we're laughing on the way to the car, laughing and sort of, as I'm laughing, looking at Amy, I look over and this guy's got out of his car. And he's probably 20 metres away. And all of a sudden, all I can think is he must have thought I was laughing at him. He automatically looked at me, was like, what, mate, what? Just like wanting to go hard. And I was, and I was like, what was he doing? He rocked up and he was with his— I mean, it looked like a young partner. He was probably 50, in his 50s, just grumpy as shit, like looking over at me and just like, just like, fucking come on. I was like, oh my God, I didn't even mention it to Amy because it all happened so quickly. I looked back over and he's still there. And then I was like, oh, this is going to be great because the fuckwit has got to Coles at 10 PM and they used to be open till 11, so he thinks it's still going to be open. And then he goes up, gets his bags out of the car, huffing and puffing, walks up to the door and they're closed. He just set him off.
Josh: What did they do?
Tommy: Oh, and then he's like waiting for me. I'm in my car reversing, and as I'm reversing Like, he cannot even see my face at this point. He's like, you know, doing this, come on, come on. I was like, oh my God, this is full-on. Like, I always think, what if I was a nutcase that just— like, what if I was a bikie? I mean, maybe—
Josh: so that was the first one. What was the, what was the second fight?
Tommy: Yesterday, went for a run, beautiful day. I'm running across the sort of highway, pull up at the lights. I had my AirPods in, so I'm kind of distracted by what's going on. Craig Harper was trying to call me in the moment. I was like, oh, what's going on? And I see this guy sort of like waving, and I— in a car who would, who would stop the lights right in front of me. And so I just kind of looked over and I was like, oh, look back. And he's kept on waving. And then I look back because I'm like, oh, I might know this guy. And then I thought, oh, that's John Briglia. I know him. I thought it was John. And then I was like waving, and then he just he lost it. He's pointing his fingers like he's got a gun at me. He's pointing them out at the other traffic like boom boom boom boom. And then I pissed him off because I was like, smiled, I was like, what is going on? And then I held up my phone and he fucking lost it when I held up my phone.
Josh: What, like held up your phone like you were gonna film?
Tommy: Like I was taking a photo, but then I, then I transitioned from this to putting it to my ear like I was on a call, just, just to fuck with it. And he kept on just doing this gun symbol, and then he was pointing down at his thing.
Josh: Where is this? Is this in—
Tommy: this is Bulleen, dude. This is not the ghetto. This is just, you know, an Italian's retirement village. That's what—
Josh: so what do you reckon it was? I don't—
Tommy: this is what I'm going like. My— usually in the past when I've got into fights in my life or set off at somebody, I've been either angry inside, right? Like, I'm— and then you can— you're totally looking for opportunities to blow up. And I can honestly say, hand on heart, these both times I'm like— one's running, I'm feeling good from being in the sun and it being beautiful weather. Other time I'm laughing and happy with my wife. And so then these two people are just on edge. I was like, God, I mean, is this happening? Are you guys getting, you know, potential junkies around?
Josh: I reckon Like the few times I've been out, they're up to no good. There's like one guy this morning at 7:45 just walking down our street playing like music through a boombox. But we are just sort of, you know, just doing a bit of the fucking twitching stuff.
Mason: Like, he's got tics.
Josh: I mean, yeah.
Mason: What about around you, Georgie?
Tommy: We're in trouble.
George: I actually saw one today. Yeah, I saw one today near the office. I was, um, walking up to the Richmond train station to film some stuff. So I was carrying my camera.
Josh: What for? Is this a little bit of a story?
Mason: Give me your voiceless on the banner. Here we go.
Josh: Is this— Yeah, what is this about?
Tommy: What are you filming?
George: I haven't actually— I mean, I got like one shot. I was just looking for inspo. I need some inspo for Wednesday.
Josh: And so what sort of stuff did you film?
George: Well, I just got a shot of the train, but I was more just like looking around at like ideas that, you know, could be Could be good. So, it's not much of an exclusive.
Josh: I'm sorry.
George: Okay.
Josh: No, that's right.
George: Anyway, I was walking up to the train station and there was a junkie there and he had like about 20 balloons tied to him all the way around. And I think the idea was he wanted to keep 1.5 metres away from people.
Josh: Oh, really?
George: So, it was like all these helium balloons. Wasn't he just like walking around?
Josh: Brand integration? It wasn't like Up or something?
George: No, it was just— He was just standing there and he goes, oh mate, can you take a photo of me? Because I had my camera and I was like, no. And then, oh, George, speed walked off.
Mason: Really, mate, you should have absolutely taken a photo of it.
Tommy: That would have been great. Yeah, mascot for the show, a true gronk out in the wild.
George: But then another junkie walked past me as I was saying that and he said, careful, careful, careful with that thing. Like, I was like, jeez, I gotta get out of here.
Tommy: Oh geez, you're gonna get it stolen. Yeah, man, people are on edge at the moment, I think. There's definitely— I mean, prisons and shit, there's an issue inside of prison with, um, this drug that— boop boop or something. It's like comes on a piece of paper and they can hide it behind like stamps and shit. And yeah, my friend who was in jail, when I visited him, he was telling me, he's like, there's so many junkies in here, there's so many drugs in here, and they're all having this thing, um, where you just— it's like a— it's like It's actually the drugs.
Mason: Buprenorphine, is that it?
Tommy: Yes, yes, yes. So it helps you come off heroin. People come onto it when they get into jail to try and sort of wean them, but then people get a dependence to it, and so there's like a drug trade inside of prison anyway. Or like, it's, it's a real big problem because it's all dried up and there's people just losing the plot in prison because they're just— and so they're thinking about starting to give it to like an injectable form you know, like dosing people inside of prison so that they don't go mad. I mean, it seems so much fun, fellas.
Josh: I feel like, uh, using the word, uh, junkie, I never knew whether you could use that word, like whether it was a derogatory term. But then I think we were in the city and there was a guy who said, ah yeah, no, I'm a junkie. Like, he identified as a junkie, remember? Because there was a guy that was really fucked up and he's like, oh, you know, look at that junkie. Like, oh, you know, I do ice, but I'm not that fucked up, you know. Yeah, yeah, you remember?
Tommy: I mean, we as humans, we find any reason to look for people more fucked up to make us feel better about ourselves, and he was doing that. He's like, that guy gives us junkies a bad name.
Josh: Oh, that's what he said, us junkies, us junkies.
Tommy: I was like, wow, it really is a cool value of yours. It's, uh, yeah. No, I know what you mean. I think half the time we use the term junkie, it's— yeah, you could say it's not empathetic, or it's like, these people are fucking in trouble. In trouble.
George: That's true.
Tommy: In trouble. But, um, I think I'll continue at this point in my life to use the term.
Josh: Yeah, I think it's okay. I mean, like, we put— like, not put up— spray— not though— we put it, I feel like, in danger half the time when you're walking past. Like, we enter into the world that is they're like, what they're experiencing, right? Like the amount of shit that sort of you end up entering into where it's like fucking them screaming, or like, you know, Bree fucking bumped into like 4 in one walk, and you don't really want to go out.
Tommy: Bodhi saw it when we were driving to daycare one day just in Richmond.
Josh: He—
Tommy: this guy was like threatening to punch a grandma, and he must have been off his face, and And he yelled at my car and Bodie was like, just, he's pretty staunch, but he just stood there, like just sat there looking at him. And then I said to him, Bodie, he's sick. And Bodie said, does he need a Panadol? I said, he needs more than Panadol. He needs a lot more than Panadol at this point. But he's brought it up a few times about the screaming man.
Josh: I remember when I was a kid and my cousin lived in St. Kilda and she had her apartment broken into. And I remember being there when they found out, like, and so, you know, walking in and there's like, you know, glass where they've smashed in and all of her stuff's everywhere. But then that same trip we were in the car and they tried— and a junkie tried to open the car door. So I always was scared of St Kilda as a kid. I didn't like it.
Tommy: Yeah, man, I remember being— so St Kilda was very, very dangerous years and years ago. So I remember my, my auntie and uncle lived in Albert Park and we lived in Brighton, so there was like a 15-minute drive or 10-minute drive where you'd go down Beach Road and there was a corner at Fitzroy Street, one of the main sort of areas in St Kilda, where there was a toilet block and there was a crew of Aboriginals that lived on the corner and they had a fire going. Like, it was legit for many, many years, and that was their home. And so, like, I just have those memories where you're like driving past, you see a big drum where there's a fire going, and I was like, wow, Dad, look at that. You know, it's like these things that seep into your memory as a child and sort of— yeah, I wonder, I wonder what the new versions will be for young Bodie. I mean, maybe it's just junkies in Richmond yelling at our car. Maybe that's it. And Uncle Josh, we have a, uh, we have an announcement.
Josh: Should I do it through the megaphone? Through the Cape Mead megaphone?
Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, definitely.
Josh: Oh, actually, and then, and then I want to get an update on what's happening with the megaphone web page.
Mason: Okay, great. Okay, great.
Tommy: Okay, I don't know what's this announcement.
Josh: Okay, is that loud enough? Is that good for you guys?
George: Yep, yeah, perfect.
Josh: Yeah, this is the Kate Meade megaphone. Make sure you follow her on Instagram, Kate Meade, M-E-A-D-E. Uh, the announcement is that Friday Night Drinks is having some changes. The changes are Friday Night Drinks will happen once a month. They will be more significant There will be a theme and it will start at 8 PM. It will be more loose and more fun.
Tommy: Yeah, thank you. Can we, can we play the music?
Josh: Oh yeah, I can play a bit of El Monte.
Tommy: Oh, there we go. Oh yeah, fired up now. I'm happy about this. Themes. Yeah, that's good, you know, sort of ready to launch, 8 PM. Yeah, baby.
Mason: This is good.
George: Can I just— can I announce something just on that?
Mason: Oh, here we go.
George: Okay, it's not— I mean, it's not really— it could tie into it nicely. I just realised that next Friday, next Friday will be the 100th episode completely remote.
Josh: Wow, that's really—
Tommy: as in this week, George? As in, in 5 days, 4 days?
George: No, no, I think the Friday after.
Tommy: So that's, yeah, Friday.
George: It was 44, 6:44, I think was the first step.
Mason: So you got 10 days.
Tommy: Amazing. That's fun.
Josh: That's a good one.
George: 11.
Tommy: So it is. I mean, we were just doing the math. I said, how many Friday night drinks did we do? Seb, you said 9. And I thought, fuck, we've been remote for over 9 weeks.
Josh: That was just based off Emma saying 8. That's like the only reason I know that we're up to 9 is when Emma said our 8th week. I was like, oh, that's a good fact.
Mason: I think Grace did one as well. She said 9th round or something like that.
Josh: Yeah, so I wonder— I have a feeling Grace got that from Emma.
Mason: We're all going off Emma, to be honest.
Josh: I have a feeling. Um, and so what's happening with the Megaphone webpage, Sebs?
Mason: Well, so I've, I've put together, uh, an MVP. So you can go to the daily minimum viable product for for people not aware, you can go to the— yeah, go to thedailytalkshow.com/megaphone, and I've, I've put Georgie's video in and, um, a little table of, uh, current and past holders of the naming rights for the megaphone. So there will be—
Josh: did you have to yell at Blazh, or was it okay? Did you do it yourself?
Mason: No, no, Blazh has no idea.
Josh: So that looks great.
Mason: If there are any errors, then I'll let him know. But I love it.
Tommy: How did you—
Josh: did you CSS that? How did you do this?
Mason: Nah, so I just— so I was going to do a normal table with just like pure code and without any plugins, and then I'm just like, oh, it's a bit too hard, so I just went and installed the table plugin.
Josh: So we've got another plugin.
Mason: We've got another plugin.
Josh: So if the site's a little bit slower, thank the megaphone sponsors.
Mason: It's all— it's— yeah, and but also Venture IP. They're sorting all of it out. And so if you're hosting or a domain— yeah, exactly, like they've, they've got fast servers and everything.
Josh: So actually, Ventura IP, you can still use the promo code TDTS at checkout and you get 50% off shared hosting for the— for any—
Mason: I'm actually, I'm actually, I'm actually a little bit— I don't know what to do right now because you can also use the code COVID-19 and get a free .au domain. They're still doing their 10,000 domain giveaway, so I don't— which one do you do?
Josh: I don't know, it depends what you need, I guess. Did you see my notification? I got a notification that my, uh, hugkisshandshake.com's up for renewal.
Mason: Yeah, yeah, well, maybe we should— we, we can renew this. Can we review that? Do you want to renew that?
Josh: Well, yeah, I need to do like—
Mason: I sort of, um You know, when you've got a couple other domains to renew as well.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, we definitely need to sort out the domain stuff. There's a lot of domains.
Mason: Venture IP.
Tommy: But hang on, this is just great. Back on the website, you've, um, you've got sort of number one, the leaderboard. As it goes in, as it goes down, you see on the right-hand side the bid, where it's up to, who's the reigning champ of the, uh, naming rights. $120 to Kate Mead.
Josh: Absolutely.
Tommy: Great.
Mason: I mean, search engine optimization Oh, literally, like, not only are you getting naming rights for the megaphone, you're also getting some of our SEO juice, and we rank number 1 for Australian daily podcasts.
Josh: So we've got many other things. So if it's— we have high quality search engine optimization juice. Uh, one of the main things with search engine optimization is on-site, um, uh, are you okay?
Mason: Link-offs. Yeah, yeah.
Josh: So no, so you have on— I want to talk about on-site and off-site optimization. On-site optimization are things like H1 tags, making sure that you, um, have your content accessible to spiders and things like that. But the backlinks is what you're getting with us. So by 97%, including your link from our web page, which has great SEO juice, you are more likely to appear higher for those, uh, terms that we link off.
Tommy: So they're getting more than just a shout out through a megaphone.
Josh: It's like an—
Mason: to be honest, it's an SEO, an optimising company. Yeah, yeah, we're literally offering SEO optimization for your website.
Josh: I mean, it's a follow link, isn't it?
Tommy: It will be sounding— it will be connected to us, won't it? So it's like, it is a two-for-one deal. Like, you get your optimization, but it's also coming from us, you know, like we're sending them your way. So they, they'll— I get it.
Mason: A lot of juice.
Tommy: Do you know what SEO is, um, uh, Georgie boy? Dodgy George?
George: Yeah, so SEO, for those that don't know, is basically when you look up something on Google or Bing or Yahoo, the way SEO works is it ranks the sites from 1 to from top to bottom, and if your site is at the top, then you're more likely to get clicks. And so, what the Daily Talk Show does really well is it ranks higher. So if you're on that, then your business can get more clicks, basically.
Josh: You sound like the Yellow Pages sales guy. Yeah, yeah. You might think you're like that the same way.
Mason: Yeah, you know what, George, we're trying to sell AdWords, you know.
Tommy: Whatever you're selling, I'll buy it, George. I will buy whatever it is that you've got.
Josh: It's so good. An update on the— I think I mentioned the other day with the tea thing, I'm actually been drinking chai as an alternative as well, which is a type of tea, I think. Do you think chai is tea? Yeah.
Tommy: Yeah, chai tea. You can convert it to a latte.
Josh: And I've also— the other thing I'm doing, look, I'm on LaCroix. I've decided that I'm going to be a LaCroix boy. I'm allowing myself, uh, from the Prahran Grocer, a 12-pack for $16, and I have allowed myself 3 a day.
Tommy: That's good.
Josh: So just, you know, keeping hydrated, it's important.
George: Seems like a lot.
Tommy: 3 a day.
Josh: I know, 3 a day.
Mason: How much, how much are they? You paid 12, you paid $16 for 12 cans.
Josh: So, it's what, like $1.50 or something a can, something like that? And so, you're paying the equivalent of a coffee a day.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: For the, for the thing.
Mason: So, you're still doing tea?
Josh: Yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm still doing tea, but to be honest, I'm trying to find a good Like I mentioned, the whole sort of floral tea that I had, the rose tea. I'm wanting something a little bit higher qual. So, I'm doing a bit of research today on stuff I can get online. Hey, so, do you—
Mason: I'm sure Kevin Rose or Tim Ferriss would have some sort of—
Josh: But the thing is that they're like in the US, so it's— I don't really want to get stuff shipped. Getting tea shipped from the US seems ridiculous.
Mason: Maybe you can find like a distributor, though, in Australia.
Josh: Did you—
Tommy: Skinny Me Tea still a thing? Not that I'm gonna get on the Skinny Me Tea.
Josh: Well, did you hear the story? Greta, who she founded Skinny Me Tea, didn't she?
Tommy: Yeah, it's still up. I'm looking at the website, skinnymeatea.com.
George: Doesn't it just make you shit yourself heaps?
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Well, that's what I thought it was.
Mason: That's what you do, don't you?
Tommy: They got cinnamon, lemon, bunch of different flavours here. Bestselling for 2019, protein powder, plant protein. Yeah, but what was the storey there, JJ, about—
Josh: Oh no, I was going to say, like, um, Greta tells the storey about, I think they got about a million bucks worth of tea and, um, you know, from China, opened it up and it was all dirt and bolts and stuff. It actually looked like they had been scammed, costing a lot of money.
Tommy: But, um, drug deal gone wrong.
Josh: Sebs, did you get your, um, stone notepads?
Mason: No, I haven't put the order through for that yet. I've been, I've been doing a bunch of other admin stuff, like I cleaned all my room now, so that's, that's clean. And so, and then I've just downloaded a bunch of health apps and stuff that I want to get back into. And so that, that notepad is now on the list of things to buy.
Josh: Yeah, so what if I write up— yeah, it sounds like it's just a—
Tommy: I'm motivated. What's— I mean, the heart is motivating when it's thumping in your chest. Why is it— is it love? What is it? What's this sort of internal motivation, Seb?
Mason: Yeah, it's a bit of both. I mean, just the weather, yeah, the weather, dating, just all of it. It's great.
Josh: You're sounding a bit pantomime, to be honest. I mean, no, it is.
Mason: No, I'm actually pumped at the moment, like just getting back into like the fitness stuff and like I've meditated 2 days in a row now, so that's good.
Tommy: Good boy.
Josh: That's good.
Mason: That's good.
Josh: Put up with Andre, your mate as well, Coconut Crew.
Mason: Yeah, yeah, I did that. But I've also decided that I'm gonna grow my facial hair for 2 months.
Josh: Great.
Mason: I'm not shaving. I'm not shaving for some— I'm gonna be the beard guy as well.
Tommy: Can you—
Josh: That's huge.
Tommy: This is—
Josh: Why do you clap like that, George? Your hands look like Donald Trump's. Yeah, they are.
Tommy: Um, are you gonna at least trim your neck? Because it might just look like you're, you know, some Zuckerberg coding in a house and you're just looking a bit disheveled.
Mason: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't, I don't get anything on my neck, so we'll have to see.
Josh: That's pretty genetically, um, no, that's lucky, I reckon. Not like— I reckon I have to trim all the time, my neck.
Mason: Oh man, I reckon. So I want to, I want to see what happens because I don't get much here. You Like, it's usually just around your cheeks.
Josh: You don't get much on your cheeks, usually around like my mouth.
Mason: You get a goatee, like goatee area. I get a fair bit.
Tommy: But hey, uh, I'm—
Mason: after 2 months, I'm hoping that I'll have a full, full beard like everyone else.
Tommy: No, you won't. Absolutely not.
Josh: But I reckon you will. What do you reckon will happen?
Tommy: Maybe like a beard like Jack Post? No, no, I don't— I reckon it'll be half the thickness of yours, Josh.
Mason: Oh, I'll be happy with that. I'll be stoked with that.
Tommy: Yeah, you gotta start somewhere. It looks quite good on camera actually, JoJo. Um, uh, Harper— Craig Harper, uh, gave some compliments to Sev saying that he listened to last Friday's show and he said, boy, 97's really sort of stepping into his own. Nothing we don't know here, but it's, you know, out on the outside Craig hasn't, you know, he might not not tuned in for a while, then jumps in, said, fuck, he's really stepping up to the plate. Good on him.
George: Great.
Josh: It is great. What colour is your beard, Sebs?
Mason: Like, it's probably like a light brown.
Josh: Yeah, it's quite nice really.
Tommy: Oh, my brother and I were having, um, beard chat, uh, over the weekend, and he's like, man, I, I— he's— because his beard's going grey and it looks great. He's got like that sort of chiselled beard, really sort of stylish. And he's like, I found this ad. And so he'd been pushed something and he was, it's this comb that you comb through and it's not dye, it does something to it.
Mason: Oh really?
Tommy: It fills it out.
Josh: It fills it out. I think the salt and pepper looks so good. Yeah, he looks great.
Tommy: No, no, that's not—
Josh: this is Ant.
Tommy: Ant's got a really solid beard. But I think, and then so his pushback to me was like, 'No, fuck it, mate. Chicks have been dyeing their hair for a long time. No one cares. No one says anything.' It's like, I can dye my beard because I was like, people are gonna— I've got a mate who does it and it is really, really bad.
Josh: Like, but also it's just another thing to do. Like, you just don't want shit to—
Mason: more admin.
Josh: My whole point is the way that I live my life is let's try and do as minimal as possible. So say if something really bad was to happen, say if we're stuck somewhere Like everyone who's doing all their maintenance are gonna just get worse and worse and worse, and I'm gonna look the same. It was like me on the 24— like 24-hour show. Sev's looked like he'd been hit by a bus. I look the exact same the whole time. Nothing changed. You just like have a standard and just, just keep it, you know.
Tommy: I mean, it is a value of some people to sort of— it is the, the reason some men have a nice little sort of carry bag that has all their colognes and their sort of beard trim. Like, I'm not that guy. I'm not that fucking organized. I sometimes wish I could be. I wish I had a little pack ready to go and beard oils and shit like that, but I don't care enough. So some, some people care enough that it becomes the thing they do. And yeah, they're the ones that are gonna, you know, have regrowth in the times that you can't get your hair dyed or whatever it be.
Josh: Well, it feels like Bree's gotten more comfortable with me using her product because I got a Le Labo perfume, uh, for her birthday, and she was like, oh, do you want some? And so I've been spraying it every day. Like, the Le Labo is now mine as well, which I feel a little bit bad.
Mason: What a birthday present.
Tommy: When you, when you don't— when you wear it, it's like, doesn't the scent go? Like, you can't sniff it, whereas like, it's quite—
Josh: I can smell like one, I put like first thing, I can smell it and not really. Yeah, and let me just rub sort of my chest and then sniff myself.
Tommy: But then it goes. I mean, Gemma was smelling Can we get that as a little bit?
Josh: Can we get that clean?
George: We get that clean.
Josh: Hamlet, what did you say, can we get that clean with George the other day?
Mason: The other day.
Tommy: It was in a snippet.
George: I can't remember. Oh, it was you doing the tongue brushing.
Josh: Oh, that's right. That's another thing. Bree's, um, she, I think she was on Adore Beauty, like the website. She was buying stuff. And she, um, she said, do you want a tongue scraper? So we're both getting— and then she asked, do we need to get two or do we share? I think you absolutely need to have your own.
Mason: Yeah, probably two. Probably two. If you've got your own toothbrush, you probably need your own tongue scraper.
Tommy: I mean, I've shared Amy's toothbrush a bunch of times when we haven't had enough. I even used Bodhi's by accident. I was like, he's not gonna know. Just put it back in the jar.
Josh: But there is something, it's pretty low level in your family.
Mason: Like if you're sharing it anyway, I think it's still pretty gross.
Josh: I think that there is something in like the product thing. Like I like the idea, I was using Breeze face wash. And so, I feel like I could become the guy that, as you sort of said, TJ has like a little, like I would, if I didn't get like, you know how I get like irritation if I use like a blade. If I didn't get an irritation, I would go down the route of a blade and have one of those like, um, brushes and do the, you know, like the cream, shaving cream, and really do like a proper cutthroat.
Tommy: I mean, my dad used to do it. I think there is a push-through period. You're gonna— it's like if you started shaving your legs, there's gonna be irritation. If you start waxing, you gotta push through. I'm sure Gemma would have more information, but I know that my dad had been like, he clean shaves all the time.
Josh: And so you have a point where it is irritated.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yes. And then, then you'll put— you'll develop, uh, it'll be less sensitive over time unless you have something severely, you know, some severe issue. But I don't think you do. Like, I think you just— I just don't think you do it enough. And so it's exactly why I don't clean shave, less so now, but I didn't do it for a long time because I was like, nah, I hate that shit under my neck. It's like itchy. And I don't know, I would listen— Joe Rogan has a 4-minute ad on his podcast about this ball shaver. It's really like this ridiculous— I, I couldn't stop listening to it though. He's talking about it, he's like It's some product, look at, find it, but it's like no nick, so no, you won't cut yourself. Like, I mean, it's full on. I mean, I've had that, I've cut my balls using, because I mean, I'm using the thing that shaves my face to then shave my nuts. It shouldn't be the thing, I mean, but we all do it.
Josh: Are there certain things that you, do you reckon you're buying more shit being in ISO or less shit?
Tommy: Oh, I haven't been buying much. Just buying lots of food to cook. So much, almost too much. I've always got food now. And I said to Amy, are we spending more? Is this like a good deal? She's like, no, we're actually spending more. I'm like, this is annoying then.
Josh: So what are you like, you cooking too much and then having leftovers?
Tommy: Nah, it's that we're getting this Dinnerly box that is, you know, whatever, $70 or something. And it comes with 4 different meals. But then we're doing Sunday night roasts, which have become a tradition. And so yeah, we've just been, you know, sometimes you're well behind on the food game, and now like we're at the other end, we're well in front where it's like I could go and make 4 different types of meals right now with ingredients we have, which is ridiculous because it's too much. I can't be fucked, too much cooking. We are doing it, but, but I was like I was thinking it's this false sense of, oh, we're ahead because we've always got food. But no, we're just paying for the food. We're just paying to stock our cupboards. And so it's, yeah.
Josh: It feels like it is the time though, like the, I reckon with people starting to go back to work or things like that, like with you, Sev, getting a bit organized, I did the same thing. Like I feel like the weekend it was like setting everything out. I got the, my streaks app. Like, actually went through each individual one and sort of intentionally said, am I going to do this? Can I do it? Bri and I did our morning walk. Georgie boy, how's your morning stuff going? Getting up early?
George: Yeah, good. Did it again this morning. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, it's friggin' freezing though in the mornings.
Josh: Are you walking to work? How are you getting to work?
George: Yeah, usually. This morning I trammed though, because I had my camera stuff. But, um, but usually I walk. But now, admin for me— what have I been doing? Um, I need to sort out my phone. I need to like get rid of all my photos and stuff. I've got so many photos on there, I can't even download apps anymore.
Josh: Definitely use Google Photos.
Mason: Google Photos. Do it at the office, George, as well. Just use it, use the internet there, just get them all uploading during the day.
Tommy: You've got to have your phone open, as in the app has to be open, connected to the net.
George: Uh, yeah, but speaking of, um, things that we've bought, guess what I've got coming, uh, tomorrow?
Tommy: Where to? The office?
George: Home. No, home.
Tommy: Home. What is it?
George: iPhone 11s.
Josh: Oh no, I'm not—
Tommy: iPhone 11? Oh, big news!
Mason: Oh, that's big!
Tommy: Huge news!
Mason: That is massive! Oh my God!
George: To be honest, it's actually It's actually not for me, it's for Anna.
Josh: Oh, really?
George: Slightly let down.
Josh: You're going to get to use it.
Tommy: Can I just say, is it—
George: but now I want one.
Tommy: Did it have anything to do with my love for the iPhone 11?
George: Yeah, that's the reason. You've been— I mean, you've been the biggest fan of the iPhone 11, so yeah, mate, you know, should get one.
Tommy: Did you show her the flower video that I cut up last week that I shot and cut?
George: Oh no.
Tommy: I mean, that would be a shot on iPhone.
George: You should, you should shoot something and you should get us on the Premiere app on the Apple phone.
Tommy: I did, I did a video. I did that on my X. I shot a video and edited it in iMovie. It was quite a good video. It's, uh, I was just trying to see how far I could push that tool. And, um, and yeah, you pushed it.
Josh: I feel like it's a good time to, um like in general sort out things like apps, like going through, because I've downloaded like— I downloaded Cluedo. I can delete that. I fucking hate Cluedo.
Tommy: Uh, oh, have we all downloaded the COVID app?
George: Yep, yep, yep.
Josh: I keep turning off Bluetooth though, and it keeps telling me, hey, I keep getting your notifications like, mate, I've done my bit downloading it.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what you're I reckon like, yeah, a lot of—
George: at least 60% of my apps have got the little like download thing next to them, little cloud thing.
Mason: Oh my God, that's—
George: they're not actually installed.
Josh: Oh, so you need to clean that up.
Mason: I know, get rid of them.
Tommy: Here's my—
George: just go into the settings and just delete some podcasts.
Tommy: Chris Hemsworth's app right now, deleting that.
Josh: Do you know what I've actually—
Mason: know what happened with that?
Tommy: What happened? What?
Mason: Literally, so it it charged people like a year's subscription even though, um, if you, if you cancel through the app or something, you have to cancel where you paid for it or where you signed up for the trial. So if you sign up on the, on your computer, you have to cancel on the computer, or if you sign up on your phone, you have to cancel on your phone. And so if you cancel it using another one, you still got charged. So it was on the verge.
Tommy: It was slightly misleading because it is one of those things where it was big song and dance, Pedestrian TV are doing some article, you know, uh, Chris Hemsworth's been a fucking sick bastard and giving out his app for 6 weeks for free. And then you jump on, it's like, yeah, put in your credit card details and then it'll charge you after. You can cancel it, but exactly what you're saying, it's misleading. If you're, if you're, if you are a real baller, give your app away and do it for 6 weeks with no credit card details. Basecamp is one of those businesses that do it. Basecamp give, uh, 3 months or 2 months free and you don't have to put in any credit card details. It's sick, it's sick. You get a bunch of people use and abuse it, but you can't just con people into it by saying give us your details and have 6 weeks.
Josh: I feel like it's a good business. I mean, from a business perspective, I wonder how much extra cash. Do you think it's unethical?
Tommy: Uh, yeah, I reckon in now today, because there's so much noise around the free 6 weeks, which they're banking on people who don't think too much outside of that. I get 6 weeks free, I'll chuck in my credit card details, it'll just renew. Like, I get that it is— I don't know, it's just, I feel like it's a slight gronk move. Yeah, slight gronk move.
Mason: No, I agree.
Josh: Bri and I bought a masterclass last night.
Mason: Oh, oh really?
George: Which one?
Tommy: This is— how many times have you— this is second time round?
Josh: I didn't say that to Bray, but yes, I have had it once before for a year. Um, but yeah, so it's, uh, but they've got way more. So, um, uh, Bob Iger, who, um, I was recommending his, uh, memoir yesterday, the, the audiobook, and he has a masterclass on like leadership and brand and stuff. And so it was so good. We just, um, on the couch already now. So we've watched probably 40 minutes. I reckon it must go for like an hour and a half or 2 hours or something. And so that was good. But then there's the Gordon Ramsay cooking one as well.
Mason: And so that's what I've been watching.
Josh: Yeah. And so I feel like I'm gonna—
Mason: Gordon Ramsay.
Josh: Yeah, go through. And how is the Gordon Ramsay one?
Mason: Well, I know— well, I haven't actually watched— I haven't started watching it. I've just been watching all videos on YouTube of him and just like cooking tutorials and stuff. So I'm very excited to watch his masterclass.
Josh: But I do—
Mason: two of them though.
Josh: The other thing too is I like when I do stuff, like say with the cooking thing, my go-to is like geeking out on the gear. I'm like, you know what, I need a better knife.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And I need a better—
George: good knife.
Josh: Yeah, we do have decent knives, but Laura Henshaw did a post, uh, I don't know if you saw over the weekend, of, um, a cutting board. It's like a wooden cutting board, and then I read the storey about the cutting board. It comes from, um, a— the end of a log, which means it's like stronger. It was like $350. I was like, it's a lot for a chopping board. Um, but then, but I was thinking about at the moment I'm using to make my like baked egg things, I'm using a pan and then like cooking it in a like a wok pan sort of thing. It's like a pan and then putting an oven, like a pan that, what's the thing that you put in an oven? A baking tray. A cast iron. A tray. No, so we don't have something to, we don't have a cast iron one, so we can't put it in there. And so, what I've been doing is just getting the tray from the oven and putting it over the top of the pan. So it sort of seals it off almost as a lid. So if anyone's got any recommendations, I'm trying to find a good recommendation of a—
George: you could use another pan, but all our pans are different.
Josh: I reckon the tray is a better solution because all the pans are different shapes. What you want is to actually find one that you can put into the oven, either the skillet type thing or, yeah, like an actual lid would be cool.
Mason: Can you find a cast iron thing?
Josh: Just like— That's what I'm thinking.
Mason: Like a relatively cheapish one.
Josh: But could I just— My strategy also was like, can't I just get a nice one? I even thought about like my Virgin points. Like, has Virgin stopped? Can I not use my points? Is that what happened? I feel like I'd prefer cooking stuff over the new AirPods. I found my other— I don't know if I told you, I lost one of the AirPods when I was sleeping the other day, like—
Tommy: Oh, really?
Josh: 3 weeks ago, and I couldn't find it. It was under the bed, but I found it.
Tommy: Did you use your Find My AirPod?
Josh: No.
Tommy: And it just— No, it doesn't work. You know, that's a thing.
George: Oh, that's good.
Tommy: Yes, it does.
Josh: How does that work?
Tommy: Nah, so you need to only— Here's the annoying thing. It's not the case itself. It's the individual pod. So if I lost one or two around the house, or exactly what happened to you, you can say find my friends or that same area, and it's like devices and then AirPods and then, uh, signal. So it sends and it makes this like bitch-ass little sound.
Josh: Can you do it now?
Tommy: Here we go. I'll do it right now. I'll just take one out. So this is my right one.
Mason: I thought it was the case.
Josh: Wow.
Tommy: No, it's not the case. That's the annoying bit because sometimes you lose the whole entire case. That's what I need, which I need that. Yeah, I need that. I don't need the individual one. So devices, um, Tommy's AirPods, currently they're in Bulleen, playing sound. Hang on, here we go. Pending, pending. Uh, come on baby, hit that play. Oh, there you go. Listen.
Josh: So quiet though.
Tommy: That's—
Josh: I know.
Tommy: And it's like, this is full volume. And this is what I was saying, it's bitch-ass.
Josh: It's annoying.
Tommy: It sounds like a cricket.
Josh: Yeah, it's very annoying. Yeah, imagine trying to do that when it's in the case. You're not hearing that.
Tommy: No, no, it doesn't work. That's the annoying bit.
Josh: Okay. No.
Mason: Oh, so that's— yeah, not like— put it on the case, guys. Like, yeah, what if it's—
Tommy: can you just—
Mason: if, if, if the case is shut, you can't find it, right? Like, it's just going to save your last location.
Tommy: Hang on, hang on. I'm saying pending that it's going to do it in the case. Maybe it does, but then if it's that quiet with it outside of its case, imagine it inside of its case. Anyway, it's not working. Yeah, it doesn't work.
Josh: 10 seconds of admin. Have you got Instagram? Oh, perfect. Go and give us a follow and then share on Insta Stories that you're listening. It will help. Thanks, great.
Tommy: Love you guys.
Josh: All right, have a good day everyone. We'll, uh, we'll see you tomorrow. Also, the megaphone, like, we're taking, um, we're taking gaming rides. It's back open.
Mason: It's back open.
Josh: Have you made it clear how people do it?
Mason: Well, so no, this is, this is the thing. I think because it's— I just did an MVP for the website. I reckon over maybe this afternoon. Yep, I will, um, I will figure out how to add a button to link off to PayPal and also, uh, clear details on how to do it. It'll just be like steps. You can watch George's video and then there'll be laid out steps on how you can do it.
Josh: The button thing should be very easy, I reckon.
Mason: But well, so no, this is, this is the thing. There's actually, there's actually code that you can get from PayPal, paypal.com/buttons. And you can generate all the code for it. But I'm just, I'm just trying to figure out how to do it because when I paste it in, it's not going in. So it's all right, I'll get there.
George: Looks good.
Tommy: You can do it, Seb. You got that youth.
Josh: Can you auto-populate the amount for them?
Mason: Uh, you can, yeah, you can set the value on it, but it's, it's not variable, so it's not going to adjust based on How much did you update it every day?
Josh: No, no, I won't bother.
Mason: Okay, look, I'm just going to keep it as zero and then people can just change the amount to what they want.
Tommy: How about it? It's getting the PayPal.com dropdown that says currently it's at $120. Would you like to help support the Gronks?
Josh: Should we have a little link on the website, on the actual home page? Blah is asking me where we got our, um, crew necks from, so I'll let him know. But for people playing at home, we got it from While You Sleep Printing, just down on Easy Street. And they use A&S Color, uh, merch, which I think is very high quality.
Tommy: So high qual.
Josh: Yep.
Tommy: All right, I'm wearing it right now.
Josh: Um, enjoy the rest of your day, everyone, and we'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one.
Tommy: See you guys.
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