Late Nights & Virtual Games

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 695.

Tommy: Happy Thursday, Gronks. What's going on? What's happening?

Josh: Not much. Let's talk about Seb's first, uh, oh my God, I haven't seen you.

Mason: What's up?

Tommy: I jumped on the call when you weren't there. You look shit.

Josh: Yeah, you're okay. Have you been stung by a bee, dude?

Mason: A little bit tired.

Tommy: Oh my God, Mr. Papa. Yeah, it's actually pretty—

Mason: I had a I had a little bit of a—

Josh: Have you had an allergic reaction to staying up late?

Tommy: You look like you got stung by a bee around the eyes. Jesus, mate, tell us about it.

George: What's in your hand?

Josh: What is the white stuff in your hand?

Mason: The white? I don't know. It might be the hair stuff that I put in. I just didn't put it in fully.

Josh: Is it coconut? Are you using— you're still using coconut?

Mason: Nah, it's some— what's— I can't— Curl Killer or something like that.

Josh: You're trying to kill the curls?

Mason: No, no, no, no, no. It's like, it's meant to I don't know, Killer Curls.

Tommy: It's meant to give you killer curls.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: Curl killer would imply that it's a straightening product, a bit sluggish.

Tommy: For a guy that, for a guy that likes to have it dialled in, you seem far from being dialled in, son. You've leaned in. Yeah, hard, which has meant that you're not dialled in anymore.

Mason: Yeah, well, I mean, I've been a bit rattled this morning because I, I was sleeping in and I had an absolute meltdown when I realised that a courier was going to come pick up our TV and it hadn't been taken off the wall and the courier wouldn't do anything. And so I woke up in a panic, um, Josh, because I was messaging Josh in the morning, he's like, no, sleep in a little bit.

Josh: And so it was after that when I had to run it past you, psych, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean, no, anyway, because you message, you message, because, um, uh, Gronk accountant, uh, Jason Robinson's going to be on, um Jason PJ.

Tommy: And it's a big week for Jase. It's a big week for Jason Robinson.

Mason: Big week.

Josh: I think there's— how long until he becomes sort of the entertainer, entertainment sort of accountant?

Tommy: He's sort of like, he may manage our books, but we are going to manage his media career. We want the books, this big media company.

Josh: How many dogs died from Dr. Chris Brown going on to just being busy with his TV show?

Tommy: Should we put in a few calls to see if we can get him on the Today Show? Or, you know, get Harry to say something.

Mason: Yeah, that'd be great.

Josh: Yeah, I'm sure we could.

Tommy: Yeah, pimping him out.

Josh: I'm enjoying it. But so you got a message in the morning from Paris asking about that, and so you were, you were, you seemed rattled at that stage already. Said, have you written back to this already? Wasn't it a private DM?

Mason: No. Well, so I was just wondering if you got that message as well.

George: No, no.

Mason: Or if it was— yeah, I wasn't sure if she wrote to me or to you as well, or the show.

Tommy: Was it in your account? Because that's usually—

Mason: yeah, it was in my account.

Tommy: Inside of your— okay, so that was to you, Seb's.

Mason: Yeah, but the thing was, it was like, it was like 6 o'clock that I think I got that message, and it was like 8 o'clock by the time I replied to it. So I was wondering if like in the meantime, because did you worry I may have ruined the opportunity for Jason? Potentially, especially because I was lucky I got up at 8. I woke up at 8 and then fell back asleep later. But yeah, if I push it out to 9, it would have been a little bit of a nightmare.

Tommy: Unbelievable, mate. You've pulled it together. How many hours sleep have you had, Mr. 97?

Mason: Uh, maybe 4 and a half.

Tommy: That's not actually—

Mason: you were good.

Tommy: Your immune system's being compromised at this point.

Mason: Yeah, it's pretty down.

Josh: And so what's your, um, are you good quality in the final 2 hours? Like, what do you—

Mason: Nah, no, no, probably not that great quality, to be honest. And so you just sort of like, it's just like trying to, yeah, just trying to keep my eyes just open. It's—

Josh: I bet I sort of understand it. The thing is, like, we criticize, but we've all done it.

Tommy: Oh, absolutely. I used to be so knackered after— when I first got together, uh, I'm just thinking with Amy. Oh yeah, after a big weekend because she— we were doing a long distance. Sounds horrible, but we would like to stay up and, you know, be around each other.

Josh: It's about you, George. Did you ever do sort of long—

Tommy: I'm trying to think.

George: I don't think we ever— no, I don't think we ever really did that, but what I did do When— before we were actually like properly going out, I would be calling Hannah in the middle of the night when I was pissed, like all the time. So, she hated that. And she lived in quite a small house with her room had like an open kind of wall. So, her mum was in there as well. And so, I kept waking her up. So, with the phone calls and stuff. So—

Josh: What would you say?

George: That's— Oh, just what are you doing? Come out.

Tommy: Yeah, just being so rowdy, just drunk dying.

George: I mean, that was my version.

Mason: Yeah, Showbakers just said, um, get the Queen to help you, um, get a face mask stat. Face mask stat. Yeah, I feel like it definitely needs some of those, you know, those eye things, the James Cosmetica things.

Tommy: Yeah, just like you also need that thing that like it looks like a little steamroller.

Mason: Oh, the little roller.

Tommy: Yeah, I could definitely get one too, JJ. Bode loves it. Bode gets around it. Gem was using it the other day though. It's, uh, it's been a big week for a few of us. I mean, Jason, big nights for Sev's, big day yesterday for you, Georgie boy. How are you coming off the back of your Hump Day replay? Yeah, how are you feeling?

George: I'm crashing, I'm crashing after that high.

Tommy: Is that—

George: that was great. The feedback was, uh, pretty Pretty amazing. So, pumped about that.

Josh: I just don't know how I'm going to do that. Are you nervous now about the—

George: Lower your expectations, everyone. Just—

Josh: Was it Stuart in the comments that suggested sort of some people are starting to send you self-help content to try and get you through this creative struggle?

George: Yeah, that's— I haven't listened to it yet, but I will. It's just about, yeah, you know, I guess who was saying? Oh, isn't that Seth Godin thing, The Dip? Where you're—

Josh: Are you in the dip now?

George: Something comes out.

Josh: Are you in the dip?

George: No, I'm post-dip, but I was pretty far down the dip, I think.

Josh: Okay, but that's good if you go through the dip, like on the other end of the dip is normally the really good stuff.

George: Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: You come out—

Mason: I mean, Stuart sent you through— Stuart sent you through a recommendation, Danny Gevirtz on YouTube. It's all about sharing work and having anxiety around that. So, I mean, that's probably a good thing.

Tommy: I think the challenge for creatives or anyone putting out stuff into the world is that it never feels— it doesn't have to feel— or the exchange isn't, it will feel awesome when you're about to put it out, or even when you're doing it, you'll feel awesome. It's like sometimes you feel motivated and pumped to get something done. And then sometimes you feel shit, but you show up and get it done. And then it could be the same outcome, but the process, the feeling of the process has been different each time. I think that the lesson of this show, as you know, Josh, it's like, yeah, every day you've got to do it.

Josh: You—

Tommy: what, what's for sure is that every day you will not feel exactly the same as the previous day. And so that gives comfort in the days you feel shit, and it gives You know, it's a bit annoying to the days that you feel great because tomorrow could be a complete different process.

Josh: I mean, I feel like there's a certain, like with the daily talk show, I've become a little bit immune to it, but I noticed that with the Alone Outside stuff, like the having a new project and then just the, like, why am I doing this? Like, I don't think I'll do it anymore.

Tommy: I think something from, you should keep going. I loved it. Just keep it coming. Keep it coming because it's not about you.

Josh: Having the option of doing it in the arvo has helped because like, doing the mornings every single time was sort of like a two-prong. It's almost like going to the gym if you only go in the morning, if that's your only option and you're not a morning person, you're getting hit twice. Whereas having the option of doing the evening helped.

Tommy: I've been thinking about Pete Shepherd's conversation around the why and the what. And so for us, I was thinking our why, Josh, is probably quite similar. And I was thinking about how you stick to something the something being the what. And then it's like, you know, for us creating this community, telling stories, having that outlet. And I think, I think you, you probably like the what more so than I have, than I like the what. Like, you know how you can sort of, you know, in your mind you're like, I'm the video guy and I want to do that.

George: I love the pro—

Josh: I like the process. Like, I can get really into the process.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: And the audio side of things. But I think, I think what is— I think, yeah, your, your— this being the what, being the podcast, and the what for you has probably been more connected, but the why for me has probably been the one that I've found the, the connection to. It's like I never thought I'd be in radio. I remember thinking I've got a shit voice, I'd never be good at that, and then somehow I'm in fucking radio. But then I'm like, I love the process. I love connecting, telling storeys and entertaining and the feeling, you know. So it's like I'm more connected to that. And so in my mind, it's like at that point, the what, uh, isn't always what matters, you know. It could be—

Josh: if you want to perform, if, if you want to say, if you want to connect with people, um, then you've got to work out a what of doing it. And so if you like playing guitar I feel like that makes it a lot easier to be a rock star than if you— yeah, you know, if you don't like playing.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I guess it's like something that you like enough to show up each day, but then a true why, like a real why behind the thing you do, can be something super stimulating and super rewarding, right? And so it's like you like something enough to show up, but then the reward, the why of why you're doing it, is enough to then stimulate you as you, as you go through. Not saying I don't like the audio medium, but it's not in my mind the first choice. It's something that I've had to sort of think about because you, because you can easily look at these people who are, have a successful video channel, and then you're like, my, my version isn't what they've created. This is the path I'm on. It's awesome. And so it's like a, I think, I think people do get caught up in the what before You know, they're like, it's romanticised of the what.

Josh: I guess the thing is though that the why is maybe—

Tommy: Steve is just thinking about why the fuck he's here and why— look at him, look at him, he's like, what am I doing to myself? Yeah, why?

Josh: You'll look back at this.

George: You're getting worse.

Josh: You're blotchy.

George: That's what I look like after a big night.

Tommy: Doctor!

Josh: I was playing, um, I was playing Monopoly very quickly, uh, we did a bit of, um, we tried the whole virtual gaming thing with Sev's and Grace and Bree last night, and by 11:30 I was fucked. And the idea that Sev's looked like a mess then, and so the idea that you then kicked on from 11:30 until 4 is actually outrageous because I'm like, oh, this kid needs to go to bed.

Mason: I left, like, we decided to finish up because we felt that you needed to go and didn't want it to be like, you know, nothing to do with the fact that you thought you were going to win and you got absolutely smashed.

Josh: Well, this is the thing is, can you explain, can you explain how does, how does Monopoly, how does Monopoly work? Explain the rules, the game, the theory.

Tommy: Dude, uh, aren't you meant to accumulate as much property and money? Like, you're meant to be— is it?

Josh: I, I don't know, I haven't, I, I So if you had to apply a strategy, because I had my strategy in my head, but it was so low level, it was so like, I mean, it was, it made strategic sense if you didn't understand the whole rest of the game. So have it, have a guess, like what would you do? What would your strategy be?

Tommy: Buy lots of property, but it doesn't mean that the properties are worth good coin.

Josh: Well, that's what I thought that a gronk would think. My strategy was hold on to it.

George: I thought you would Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to guess. I thought you would have been a guy to just not buy anything until you land on Mayfair or whatever, and then only get the expensive ones.

Mason: That's literally what happened.

Josh: So I— but I had Mayfair.

Tommy: Um, you had it?

Josh: I did have Mayfair, but the thing is that—

Mason: can I have Park Lane?

Josh: Yeah, well, so this is the thing. This is what I didn't understand. This is why I didn't understand, and if I had understood this, the whole game would have been different. I didn't remember about, uh, hotels and houses. Forgot about that. I didn't know, like, so there was that bit. The other bit, I didn't realise that you needed all of one colour to be able to start building on that. So if you think about it, how is a guy going to win a Monopoly game when he doesn't know he can build houses, hotels, and you collect the color? So I ended up with Mayfair. I hadn't put any hotels, sorry, or any houses on anything. I didn't try and get— I'm sure I probably could have gotten the other one. I didn't get the other one. I had heaps of money in the bank. I had 1,500— I had more money than anyone in the billions and billions. I'm sounding like Trump, but I had a lot of money in the bank, lots and lots of money. And then before you know it, Grace had put hotels on everything and if you land on her property, I had to pay $800.

Mason: Yeah, it's $1,000.

Josh: I was wiped out on 2 rounds, like just going around twice.

George: Grace knows how to play the game.

Josh: Yeah, well, I didn't understand it. And so, but now I mean, the highest IQ out of that call—

Tommy: what, what's Grace's— sorry, not IQ, um, interscore. What was great—

George: are you—

Tommy: have you trumped her?

Mason: I'm not sure what her score is.

Tommy: You haven't asked it?

Mason: I haven't asked that, no.

Josh: I respect that.

Tommy: There's a question for you. Look, there's tonight on a platter.

Mason: I mean, I went, I went out first in the game. Like, I went bankrupt first because I had an absolute nightmare. Like, I passed Go twice and then landed on the income tax thing, and so I just, I lost all my money and then paying everyone and going on JobSeeker.

Josh: They've Brought up the version of the Monopoly.

Tommy: Do you reckon Barefoot Investor would be good at Monopoly?

Josh: Great idea. I reckon he'd be annoying at any board game, to be honest.

Tommy: He would 100% be splurging, Josh.

Josh: He'd be looking at it. He would fucking— he'd be the one to flip the board when he's lost. Yeah, just pissed off.

Mason: He's not happy.

Josh: But, um, he would manage the bank. I'd respect that. But the good thing is there's no cheating going on. But the thing is that— so TJ, would you have known about the house, the hotel, all of that stuff?

Tommy: I would have to have a full run-through of the rules. I have no idea. I haven't played that game in years. I mean, the closest I've come is to winning a cheeseburger through McDonald's drive-through.

Josh: Oh yeah, this is the thing. But now it's that frustrating thing of you understand the game And now Gracie just said in the comments, 97 trumps me in the interscore.

George: Hahaha.

Josh: Oh great, um, yeah, but no, so I, um, uh, I— but I want to play again. I've sort of said let's move because we also downloaded Cluedo, but, um, I feel like we need everyone to have a win in Monopoly before we move on to the next game. I feel like you're playing at once You play the whole—

George: through the whole game, or did you stop?

Josh: Yeah, so Bree wanted to click— Bree likes to go to bed.

Tommy: It's a quick game, did you say?

Josh: Well, yeah, it was like 3 hours. Yeah, Bree looked up— was it you, Sevs, or Bree that looked up how long the longest game had gone for?

Mason: No, that was— that was Bree, I think.

Josh: 70 hours. So 70 days.

George: 70 days.

Mason: 70 days.

George: Yeah, I've definitely played for days at a time, like probably a week, I reckon. I've played a game Monopoly. It gets intense. I love it though.

Josh: And so now that I understand, I was so pissed off because it took until once I saw what Grace was doing, I was like, fuck, I understood. So I bought houses on everything. I just like went crazy. And then obviously I had to fucking mortgage all of it. So I ended up with a board that I had houses that I like, and I was selling like, how much the houses cost? Do you remember how much houses cost?

Mason: $100 each, I think.

Josh: And then I would sell them the next round for $25 because it was just this like cycle of like trying to accumulate. But, um, now that I understand, I want to play. But the other thing I was thinking is, if you're a Gronk and want to play Monopoly with me, I'm just going to, um, uh, in the WhatsApp, go on to VIP Gronks on the WhatsApp, just message me and we'll start a game because I feel like I need to have a few under my belt.

Mason: This is the app, is $6 as well.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's iPhone.

Tommy: Okay, actually, oh, it's an app. So you're all playing from your own place on your phone, or you— what were you doing?

Josh: You would agree? I gave Bree—

Tommy: do you stream it to the TV? Well, that would be good, getting it on the TV.

Mason: Oh, you know what, the iPad experience must be great. You should do that with your, your phone, just because Bree's got the big iPad screen, and then you can have the phone on the TV.

Josh: Well, because we did Pictionary. I gave Bri the iPad for Pictionary. Um, that's a huge—

Mason: Maybe you need it.

Josh: Yeah, I nearly bought the iPad Pro with the pencil just because I couldn't fucking draw quick enough with my finger on the iPhone. But, um, but you know, so yeah, the Monopoly thing, $6. But the outrageousness is Sev's is on my family app account, and I said, hey Sev, I've bought I've bought Monopoly so you, Bri, and I don't have to pay. Like, I've paid the $6, we've all got it. And then we go on and he says, sort of flex that he bought Monopoly. He's like, guys, I didn't want to use yours. He's on the family account. He's on my family Spotify. Like, he's on everything. Like, he's integrated. Every time I go on iCloud.

George: Why?

Tommy: Yeah, but I mean, he's sensing the dictator will take over his life. If he has you, fronting everything for him.

Josh: But then he's like, 'Hey, Monopoly, get out.' Like, this is— but this is the weird thing.

Tommy: Like, so manipulation—

Josh: was it— did Grace tell you to fork the money out?

Mason: No. Well, I mean, you hadn't bought it yet, right? Like, you— it was probably like— when did we— when did we start? Like 9 or 8 or something? Yeah, it was just slightly before that. You hadn't bought it yet. And so I was like, 'Okay, I'm just gonna— I'm just gonna download it.' But we, we had a conversation around like whether you'd bought it or downloaded it yet, and you hadn't.

Tommy: So, but then, yeah, but the bigger question is, uh, for Jason Robinson, is that $6 a tax write-off if you're talking about it now on the show?

Josh: Well, I mean, I think that anything that Sevs does with me can be a tax write-off, which is, you know, it's got to kill two birds with one stone. But TJ, you were asking me before about my Audible. He's like, mate, I need to be logged back into your Audible.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. But I mean, I'm cautious. I'm not on your family account and have no interest in being in your family account. Um, I mean, I have— you are— we are Find Friends friends, uh, which I mean, you know where I am in any time. You like to keep a tab on people. Would you—

Josh: how do you feel about being on—

George: I want to get on that. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I'll add you guys.

Tommy: I know when you're coming up. When an edit's running late for us, George, uh, Yeah, we will be checking Find Friends.

George: Yeah, I realise I haven't been on it for the last few months because everyone I know is just exactly where they should be.

Tommy: Yeah, true, true. It is. I mean, it's, it's the, it's the worldwide Find Friends. It's, it's been deployed everywhere. Do you think—

Josh: but the Audible thing, because I under— I sort of understand the fam— the family thing is very integrated, just the way that it's all positioned as well. It's too much. But I then offered—

Tommy: So, am I your kid?

Josh: You're just a dependent, which is fine. Okay.

Tommy: Which is fair. That's a fair—

George: Yeah.

Josh: On all of our stuff, I've got one dependent. But the— No. So, with Audible, I've given that to a lot of people. So, I've bought a lot of Audible books and it's an easy win. I can give my mates the logins and they can listen to it.

George: Right?

Josh: It's very easy.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I said to Sevs, um, we're talking about So You've Been Publicly Shamed, a great Jon Ronson book, great book. And, uh, and, uh, I said Grace wanted to, to read it. I said, hey Sevs, here is my Audible. This is before all the Monopoly bullshit that happened. I said, here's my password, you can log Grace in to the Audible. So she has access to all the books. She refuses. She 100% refuses to down— to log into my Audible.

Mason: Why?

Josh: Well, this is what I said.

Mason: Isn't there?

Josh: I said to her, I'm like, I don't care if you can still break up with Seb's. I don't care if you're like, you can still use the Audible. But she says she didn't want to leech. Do you think, like, George, are you—

Tommy: that's fair, that's fair.

George: I get it.

Tommy: I mean, it's better person than I am.

Josh: Well, because you are like TJ, you would— I feel like you're very comfortable in just leaning into the, like, what's for offer. Not leeching, I think that's probably an aggressive word.

Tommy: No, I think the point there is what's for offer. If someone offers something— Jason, our accountant, offered a bottle of gin. I didn't take it. I put Sev forward, but I knew you guys wouldn't have said, hey, I'll take it. And so when someone offers you something It's actually quite polite to accept, depending on what that is.

Josh: What's the whole tar off thing? You need like tar offing, like it's a nut. Like I see it as an absolute slap in the face, like when someone doesn't accept my order. It's actually quite rude.

Tommy: But maybe she will. Maybe she's just doing the tar off. She's, nah, Josh, I don't want to be, you know.

Josh: George, are you someone who takes something? If I bought you a— is drinks a different thing? Like if this was a big gronk party, and I was sort of getting a bit loose on the card and say, "Ah, I'll get you a drink." Are people funny about accepting drinks?

George: Nah, not necessarily. Like, I think for me, I would go, "Okay, great, I'll get your next one." So, it's just like a one-for-one type thing. But if you offered me the Audible login, I reckon I'd be like, "Ah, I don't really listen to that." And you'd be like, "No, I have it." I'd be like, "Okay, I'll do it." Would you be doing that more for me?

Mason: Just the initial pushback.

George: I'll be doing that for you. Yeah, no, but I would like—

Tommy: I think there is people though, Josh, that like— so I've come across, as a taker, I've come across many givers in my life. No, no, it's not bottom or top. As a taker though, I've, um, I think there is a power play. Like, I've got mates who will like powerfully insist on paying for shit, but do I ever bring it up?

Josh: Do I? I feel like I pride myself on doing it and then letting it go, and like People don't get what— like, have I ended up twice with Grace in a couple of days? No, the thing is she hasn't taken me up on the offer. That's where, like, the—

Tommy: no, but what I'm saying is getting to the root of it, there is a power and a power, um, attainment through being the person that looks after others. And so one, one person in particular I'm thinking about, it's like, mate, always just trying to get it's like, I think it's a flex with money. I know they've got some kind of complex around not having much growing up, and now they've sort of made some cash, and it's like, nah, nah, I'm the guy paying, I'm the guy paying. And so, but I see that, and so, which is kind, but it's also fulfilling their need, um, in some certain way. It is a weird, it's a weird sort of thought. I mean, this is not relating to you, Josh. I know you're very generous and you definitely don't try and seek any reward outside of—

Josh: unless we're having a blowout, and then I will bring it all out.

Tommy: Oh no, no, you have a list, extensive list of what people owe you. And Seb, you're not really a taker. You— I mean, you don't—

Josh: we offer you heaps of shit, and we have, like, because he doesn't like coffee.

Tommy: I reckon you've saved us thousands over the last year by just rejecting us saying, mate, you want a smoothie? You want a coffee? You want some lunch? You want that? Like you don't, which I appreciate. Yeah, which I appreciate. But George, I bought you a coffee this morning, so, um, yeah, he did.

George: Yeah, I love it.

Tommy: I love— but I like, I like buying, I like buying shit for you, George.

Josh: I think there's something—

Mason: Shannon's—

Josh: yeah, go on.

Mason: Shannon just says, um, Josh, I feel like if you do something nice for someone, you can't bring it, um, back up. I don't accept things for this reason. I'm not saying you do, but it's something to be aware of.

Josh: I definitely don't know. I feel like I am. It's been very, very rare where I would have brought something up, and it's normally when I feel like I'm in a corner. But also, I feel like if I'm with them, if I'm hanging out with a wealthy friend who I will, uh, one for one, like if I'm doing lunch or things like that, because they've obviously gotten into the habit of just going up and they'll just pay like straight up. They don't even— it's not even a consideration. And so I feel like I don't feel comfortable with that. I don't want to sort of— but also just have that expectation. I think it just seems rude to just sort of stand back and, you know.

Tommy: Yeah, I think— I guess what your, what your line of thinking could be, tell me if I'm wrong, is that, uh, if you have money, you are then on the lookout for people who are trying to take advantage of you. And I don't necessarily think that is accurate. I think there's people who are, who have literally— they're wealthy and they've removed that thinking of paying for friends and shit like that. Like, it's just, they just do it because they can. It is a weird one. Like, I don't think any of us, uh, we're not in the situation at the moment, definitely, of not having a thought in our mind like Who was it? The Twitter, um, it's one of the— maybe, maybe Jack Dorsey talking about— oh no, someone else. But they were talking about like when they started making shitloads of money, the stages of what thinking got dropped. It's like, oh no, they're talking about wealth and they're like thinking about what you're having for dinner based on a money aspect.

Josh: Well, it's like, um, Jerry Seinfeld and the, um, I'm trying to think of the other stand-up, but they, they spoke about it where they prepay. Like, it's become such a thing where it's like their assistant will call the restaurant, they give the credit card details. I mean, that's handy. I mean, the funny thing is I give so much shit to Grace and Shannon saying stuff too about being the same way. I think me being this way, I don't necessarily— like, I like having my own shit. I don't want someone else's Audible account. So I sort of I get the pushback because there's been plenty of times where it's like, it's like when you're a kid, are you the one that has people over to your house? Are you the host or are you the one going over to people's house? And I was always like—

Tommy: I guess the first question is, do you have friends? Is probably the first one before you—

Josh: I was always the host.

Tommy: Do you have any mates?

Josh: Well, so I would host.

Tommy: You were the host, were you?

Josh: I would, yeah, I'd always host. And I so prided myself on being sort of, and I got criticized. Mum would get very pissed off because Kyle Hobson would have a small drink. He could never finish his glass of Coke, and I would always pour it full, and she's like, Kyle can't drink that much drink, it's going to waste. But I was just being generous, you know.

George: Yeah, yeah, I realised I've actually done a similar thing, Josh. I am, because, uh, because Hannah loves like the Real Housewives and all those sort of shows. I've got a HeyU subscription.

Josh: And this is like the reality show thing, is it?

George: Yeah, yeah. So it's like 7, it's like $8 a month and you've got all those shows. And we're, I remember we were out one night and our friend Paula was out and she was like, oh yeah, I like those sort of shows. Like, give me your phone, give me your phone. Like, Downloaded the app, signed. I don't think she's ever used it, but now she's somewhere out there with my account on her phone. So, yeah. I don't know how that is.

Tommy: You feel like a big dog, don't you? You feel like a top dog.

George: Yeah. Huh?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I was talking to a mate who had recently gone through a breakup and he was setting up his TV and he logged into a Netflix account and it turned out it was his ex's and she definitely would have received a a message saying, you know, yeah, Simon's just gone.

Mason: Your device locked down.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it seems a bit pathetic, doesn't it, when you're using your ex's Netflix?

Tommy: Can you get an update? Can you see if he's been kicked off it?

Josh: Well, I think he straight away signed out. He freaked out. But, um, I do remember when Trav— when in Europe, uh, every hotel I'd go to, I would want to set up like Netflix and YouTube, mainly YouTube actually. Um, yeah, because I wanted to be able to watch my subscriptions on the smart TVs, but then I'd fucking forget. And so there was a time where I had like 4 TVs around Europe in hotels and Airbnbs that were logged into my account.

Tommy: I did a mass log off in my, uh, Netflix just recently, and it was— I think there was just having some issue. I was— yeah, there's too many devices on but it might have been the laptop, it might have been someone I've given the password to. But anyway, it, um, yeah, it feels good, feels good. It's worth just jumping on, doing a sort of mass logout. Mate, I tell you, this is, um, I haven't brought it up with my wife, so I don't know if I can label this a tanty yet. You know, I can't be doing tanties behind her back about her that I haven't even spoken to her about the issue.

Josh: That's okay, George, but, uh, through, maybe George could do an exclusive interview with Amy.

Tommy: Yeah, great.

George: I tell you what, Go for it.

Tommy: For the last 3 days, I have been needing to log back into everything on my computer. She was on a Zoom call. I set her up, thought that's a nice thing to do, you know. She, she looks the best on the Zoom call based on the setup that we've created here at my house, thanks to the Big Media Company. But she's logged us— she's logged me out of everything and logged herself in and then logged herself out. So everything is not logged in, and it's weird. It'd be like if someone got in your car and they'd move the seat forward, they'd changed all the stations. That's what it felt like. I feel like I don't know how to drive this car anymore. And so I've had to log back in and absolutely everything.

Josh: I've seen it, like when I was a kid, like, or like you sort of that learner's type of thing, changing the seat. I reckon like dad would sit in the seat before his ass was fully down. He would fucking if it had changed at all, he'd be flailing. Oh, motherfucker, someone's changed the scene! We can't go— like, it was a big, it was a big deal. What did she log out of?

Tommy: Facebook, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Google, uh, like, um, Gmail. Like, it's absolutely everything, dude. Couldn't believe it. I was like, what else have you got into?

Josh: Ah, is your Pornhub subscription still Who signs into Pornhub, by the way? Like, I feel like it's a— yeah, a certain time because they were offering free subscription, uh, free COVID subscriptions, weren't they?

George: Yeah, Harry would be able to—

Mason: yeah, yeah, he was. He posted in our group chat, in our, um, Facebook group.

Josh: Yeah, it feels like a weird, um, one to log into. What, so you can comment? Is that the sort of the appeal?

Mason: You want to be able to be fair? The comments are— the comments are very funny. Have you Have you read through?

Tommy: They always do that release of like, um, best comments on Pornhub or the, you know, best names. Sevs, I'm sure you're across this as the producer. Do you have, uh, any of the best comments? Like, haven't you seen those articles like the BuzzFeed or whatever they are? That's—

Mason: yeah, hang on.

Josh: I just don't know how I'd feel as a person doing like just—

Mason: oh, there's a subreddit, it's called Pornhub Comments. Okay, here we go.

Tommy: Yes, you were reading this out to us at once. Can you read out some of them? Find some, find some doozies.

Mason: Guys, be careful, this has nudity.

George: So, uh, Casey just said you got to keep that favourites list, so that's why he log— he signs in so he can keep a list of his favorites.

Josh: Yeah, I think that potentially—

Tommy: is this in Pornhub? Is that what you're talking about?

George: Yeah, that's what he's saying.

Tommy: Ah, I appreciate the honesty.

Josh: Okay, gotta keep the favourites list.

Tommy: What is that?

Josh: Okay, yeah, so, so you can see So you sort of, you got your selection.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a class. It's the modern day, you know, DVD selection at your house.

Mason: Oh no, my son left his computer open. My son left his computer open. I ain't even mad, this is some good shit.

Tommy: I don't know, more.

Mason: Oh, this is funny. There's, there's, there's a title that says I hold the door open for strangers in public, almost caught. And one of the comments was, what a slut.

Tommy: What else? What else?

George: Oh, Casey's a couple more. Sorry about that. Yeah, I thought so.

Josh: I wasn't, it wasn't gonna—

George: You should have corrected me.

Mason: There's someone who's got the username God and he's verified. That's quite cool.

George: Here you go.

Mason: I've been jerking off like this for a year now, and then someone said, keep at it, my dude, you'll come any day now.

Josh: There's a little snippet.

Tommy: All right, that's enough smutty comments.

George: That was good.

Josh: That got way smuttier than what I thought it would. Um, the drinks, uh, for Friday night.

Tommy: Um, it's happening. That's tomorrow.

Josh: Shannon was WhatsApping me. What's— what are you doing that face?

Mason: No, no, no, I can't. No, I can't read that. No, I just— no, ignore that comment. It's an absolute nightmare.

Josh: You are talking—

Mason: I'm not reading it. It's to do with kids in school. It's to do with kids in school. So it's just—

Josh: yeah, yeah, probably could have stopped. Um, the— yeah, so Shannon, we didn't actually see—

Tommy: you didn't actually need to bring it up, to be honest. Yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah, so Shannon—

Josh: yeah, Shannon was messaging about the Aperol.

Tommy: Uh, so are you getting it?

Josh: Well, I wanted to get the Aperol, but my concern is And this is— because I've only started just getting into drinking, uh, is it—

George: I reckon we could make a compilation of the amount of times you've said that over the last 2 years.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: When can you drop 'I'm getting into it'? When after— yeah, when after starting to drink can you then, you know, because you've come from not being a drinker, which I never found— I've never had that experience of saying I, I never drank and now I drink, which lasts.

Josh: Well, you did, you did, but you mentioned a year off.

Tommy: But as in, as an adult, you know, the, the transition, like, started having beers when I was young but never identified as the previous self of like never had beers. I wasn't a drinker. Yeah, it just sort of happened.

Josh: It's an identity thing.

Tommy: You, um, like, how long until you can drop it?

Josh: Uh, I reckon probably once I've tried all the drinks, once I've sort of made my own of my own Like, um, yeah, when we're in, um, New York and you're in the park, like, you had that beer that was completely illegal. But so I, I didn't— I wouldn't have gotten a drink, did I? I didn't drink. It was just you.

Tommy: No, you didn't. Oh, but then you had one at, um, we went to the, the rooftop at the Standard in New York. Oh, that was so nice. And you and Breezer had a nice little cocktail. Oh, that's right. I was drinking there. Yeah, I had a little something. But there was definitely not the drive to sort of keep going, whereas if you wanted to launch, I would have launched. But you didn't want to. That's how it felt like I was around people that don't drink and were having just like a, you know, cocktail.

Josh: But I also cracked it because you said that— remember we went to, um, Chinese Tuxedo and, um, you'd said, uh, mate, I'm feeling shit house, I can't go to the camera shop with you, you're gonna have to go on your own. So I went to the camera shop.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: And then Eddie invited us before we did the episode Chinese Tuxedo. He invited us for a drink and you're like, da da da da da da, and you're getting right into it.

Tommy: But do you understand it now? Like, I would have been better off having a beer before walking into that camera store. I guess we can, you know, you know what it feels like, but in terms of now that you've had a few more beverages in your life. Doesn't it make more sense that like—

Josh: But I enjoy camera shops, so I think that's probably part of it too. It's like that is my alcohol, you know. It was B&H actually, George. Have you been to it? Sick.

Tommy: I did a walk around, but I felt like absolute dog's ass.

Josh: Yeah, it was great. Anyway, so yeah, so the Aperol stuff. Gem is saying that her mum Jill's going to be doing a tutorial at 2 PM for the Aperol.

George: Great.

Josh: But what I wanted— tomorrow, or tomorrow? For, for, uh, did I say today? Sorry.

Tommy: Um, no, you didn't. I was just clarifying.

Josh: Okay, I appreciate it. But the thing that I want to know is, this is more of a broad question, is it frowned upon to drink, to get drunk?

George: No.

Tommy: I mean, no, George, no, straight up. Uh, I don't, I don't think so. Like, what else do you do? You smoke weed to not get high? What do you do? Like, do you smoke weed to not feel anything? Do you take any kind of, any form of drug to not have the, the effect of it? Do you not take Panadol? You don't take—

Josh: so should I be unashamed?

Tommy: Cure your headache?

Josh: Should I just lean into that? You go, George.

George: It depends on the situation. Like You know, I don't think— I think it's okay. You're not like a— You're not an alcoholic, you know, you're doing it for— In this environment, I don't think if you want to do it, then you should be allowed to.

Josh: Is that one step closer to being an alcoholic when someone says to you, you know, you're not an alcoholic?

George: No.

Tommy: Like, George, if we— If I said to you, bro, let's go to the pub on Saturday night. And you're like, yes, sweet, we'll have some dinner, we might sort of just kick on after. The thought isn't, if we're going to drink, if you've decided, yeah, I'm having some beers, the thought isn't, oh well, I'm not getting— not necessarily, unless like the result of doing that together is probably going to end up being intoxicated, being drunk. And so it's a different story, Josh. I think, I think where it gets a problem is when you, like, I'm sure you've been in this, George, where you've said to yourself, nah, I'm not going to, and then, then you end up getting plastered like multiple weekends in a row where you, you're saying to yourself, no, I won't get drunk, and then all of a sudden you're on the phone to Hannah yelling down. But no, I think it's a problem. Yeah, when you start sort of going against yourself, like you haven't got any strength to, uh, any willpower to not, you know, do the thing that you say you're wanting. So if you're like, you're just committing.

Josh: Well, so I was wondering, also people in the comments, uh, Grace, Gem, uh, they're all, uh, Show Baker, who, who is Stanley Tucci? Do we know who Stanley Tucci—

George: heard the name— I think Tucci, I've heard the name but I haven't looked.

Josh: Stanley Tucci is, uh, an American actor, writer, producer, and film director involved in acting from a young age. Uh, he's made his film debut in the 1985s, uh, CNN video. And so he's done a, uh Quarantine Bartending Skills video that I think everyone's talking about.

Tommy: Um, yeah, amazing.

Josh: But no, so my, my, the reason I brought up the whole—

Tommy: fair enough—

Josh: the, the alcohol thing was because, uh, the comments I think from Grace earlier last week, or sorry, early this week, was that the Aperol Spritz won't give me the kick that I need potentially. That it's sort of— you can drink it all night and not really feel it.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I mean, this is— you just gotta explore.

Josh: And so I was talking to Shannon about it, and she was asking if I was doing the Aperol Spritz, um, and I said yes, but it would be good to have some shots. That's what I said, sort of on standby for kick-ons. What sort of shots would you have? Uh, well What about Fireball?

Tommy: Oh yeah, I think you'd probably enjoy that. I think you'd enjoy that.

George: Well, any shots make me want to vomit, but particularly Fireball. I can do tequila if I have some lime.

Josh: I had tequila at Jem's New Year's Eve party. I thought someone had some fucking drain cleaning fluid. It was disgusting.

Tommy: Get that, Josh. Get Fireball or get What about Café Patron? You like coffee and yeah, you can't— I mean, it's just alcohol, tequila, but if you put in the freezer, it's really nice. It's a coffee, coffee-flavored tequila.

Josh: Lara was, um, she's been dialling in her, um, espresso machine. She's going to be doing espresso martinis, which I love the idea. Bree reminded me the last time she did, which I'd spoke about on the show, but I didn't told the second part. She was cleaning the house when she got home. She had espresso martinis for a Christmas party.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Came home and decided that she needed to clean all the mirrors. Um, and I thought it was funny. I took a photo, I put it in a WhatsApp group, and what I hadn't seen, but she had sort of a, um, sleeveless top and no bra. And so I'd sent a photo of her breasts to the WhatsApp group, which—

Tommy: did you revoke it? Did you pull it out? Can't you?

Josh: It wasn't that bad. I was like, it was like 4 friends.

Tommy: Um, yeah, well, I posted a photo when Amy in the hospital, and I just didn't realize, and it kind of looks like a little finger, but it's Amy's nipple. It's on my Instagram still, and I was like, worse, we worked it out after. I was like, ah, that's your nipple. And it's like, yeah, oh well, it's context of it is fine. It's a baby on her chest. She's naked, he's naked. There's a slight, you know, wrap of a blanket around him, but it's, um, yeah, there's definitely nipple.

Josh: Okay. And so shots or no shots?

Tommy: I don't know, dude. Play it by ear. What do you want to do? Get a bottle?

Josh: Play it by ear. So this is the whole funny thing. Everyone's like, just be cool, just play it by ear. Play by ear. I'm not at a fucking bar. I need to buy this stuff.

George: Mate, you, you live 10 metres from a bottle shop.

Josh: They won't serve me if I'm off my chops, will they?

Mason: Brick can. Brick and wrap.

Tommy: Last time, it's called 24 Hour Bottle-O on Chapel Street. I've been there at 6 AM, 7 AM, 9 AM, and you were intoxicated. Well, clearly, if you're up that hour trying to get a slab for the goons in the in the cab.

Josh: Grace is really going hard. She keeps writing shots in the YouTube chat. What is it about?

Tommy: No, I think you've sorted it. I think you want, you want clarity. Fireball, put it in the freezer, have it nice and cool.

Josh: It's, it's, uh, it's a big red chewing gum, to be honest.

Tommy: Oh, sorry, I put in the fridge. It's just to chill it a little bit to make it a bit smoother. It's definitely, definitely, I think, the direction you go down, Josh.

Josh: Okay, what's the flavor? Is it spicy?

Tommy: Cinnamon. It's like a— it's like Big Red Chewy, but it's not. So it's, it's definitely doable, like, to do multiple if you want. Okay, but we're not promoting, uh, yeah, I just don't want to be drinking. Just don't get as drunk on the episode, like, during the episode.

Josh: If I do the aperol or, like, pre-show, uh, and then through the show, I'll be fine. And then So you thought I haven't watched back, was I—

George: I wasn't good.

Mason: Too loose. Yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: Dude, even when you're like, Emma, that one strap number.

Josh: Beautiful.

Tommy: Lovely.

Josh: I never said the word pussy. You said pussy maybe 10 times.

Tommy: Dude, dude, do you not realise we've been recording these shows every day? And what you said about Grace.

Josh: What did I say about Grace?

Tommy: I don't know, ask Grace.

Josh: Now what did I say? The tits comment? I mean, that was a joke.

Tommy: What?

George: That was a great joke.

Tommy: Is me referencing a cat as a pussy not a joke?

Josh: It feels like a lowbrow. I think pussy versus tits, I think tits is way cleaner than pussy.

Tommy: I think mine's referring to a cat, yours is referring to Mr. 97's girlfriend.

George: Big difference. You've locked yourself out of the video, Josh.

Josh: Was, was, you know, what you're going to say, Sam?

Mason: No, no, you go. I want to hear what you were going to say.

Josh: Wait, so that it was, it wasn't included in— yeah, I actually forgot. Was that this? Should that have gone in this Hump Day? Did you—

George: well, that was the whole thing.

Josh: That very—

George: after Mason was talking, after he was talking about the, uh—

Josh: oh, that's right.

George: Yeah, the messaging. And then you came back with the great call, but I left that bit out.

Josh: No, I appreciate it.

Mason: I think it's good. Good filter. That's a good thing.

Josh: That's a good filter.

Mason: If that's a highlight, it's more inside baseball. I think it's—

George: yeah, I didn't like that.

Mason: Yeah, it's on the line if you listen to the show, and so you don't want to— you don't want to flex it on a weekly highlights.

George: And really, yeah, yeah, respectful to Grace too.

Josh: Good one. Uh, it's a daily talk show. If you want to join us for Friday night drinks, all you have to do is go to thedailytalkshow.com/gronks. What are you laughing at, Sebbs?

Mason: I was just— Lara has just written in comments, put your pussy away, and then TJ.

Josh: Yeah, that's too much. That's one person. Do you not think it's not referring to your pussy?

Tommy: Can we get— let's get a— you talking about Seb's girlfriend sending you her tit shot versus me referring to a cat in the background?

Josh: I think absolutely not. Even saying it, I think that the— I think breast—

Tommy: like, let's get a poll. If you're talking about a human, if you took a photo—

Mason: we don't have to highlight this on Insta Stories.

Josh: Yeah, no, we don't.

Tommy: But if you took a photo, you said about the finger, and the point is it's massively contradictory you calling me out for that when you talk about tits.

Josh: But I did—

Tommy: like, it's the same thing.

Josh: No, no, it's not the same thing. If you'd said, uh, I sent a photo of Amy, and I thought it was a little finger, but it was her vagina. I feel like that is more extreme than breasts. You didn't use your feeling more uncomfortable because we've got one.

Tommy: Oh, absolutely not. I think you've lost the fucking plot thinking that it was okay to say that about Seb's girlfriend.

Josh: Yeah, I think it was fine. I think that we probably should have just let it go, to be honest. But the—

Mason: my crystal— crystal saying this is collapsing. And, um, Shannon says, let it go, let it go.

George: Everyone's saying stop.

Mason: We should probably wrap up. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Lara says, TJ, you can't talk your way out of this one.

Josh: Yeah, see, Lara is saying that, like, I think when they talk about spiraling, it's referring to TJ.

Tommy: I mean, when you told Butterbean that you fucked his grandma, it was a bit different.

Josh: You don't have to bring up every single joke I've ever made on the show.

Tommy: Yeah, I don't call people out for any jokes ever. Unless I've been called out and I feel like it's injustice.

Josh: But it's all context, right?

George: Anyway, can I just say that according to Instagram, 55% of our audience are female. So, yeah, there you go.

Josh: So watch. So what do you—

George: So we're very—

Mason: Where were you going to go with that, George?

George: For the most part, don't know, just saying that, you know, we're not just 4 bloody blokes online just back in, you know. You guys, you're fine. It's all good.

Mason: Thanks, George.

George: Thanks, George.

Josh: No worries.

Mason: Grace says Josh too far. She's on TJ's side.

Josh: I'm on TJ's side. Well, that's—

Mason: to be fair, there probably is a little bit of bias.

Josh: I'm changing the Audible password. You've done it. And you too, TJ, you can fuck off. You're not getting the Audible.

Tommy: I don't have it already.

Josh: Well, you're not having it now.

Tommy: You're off the family account, Mason.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah, Mason, good luck. I've put parental controls. You're not using the phone. All right, we're done. And George, yeah, no Find Friends for you anyway. Good. Fuck, it's only 11:50.

George: Fuck, what are you guys gonna do for the next few hours?

Tommy: Sleep. We're gonna do some shopping. I really—

Josh: I'm dehydrated, to be honest.

Mason: Oh, same.

Josh: We've run out of it. We're going through a whole cylinder of the, um, the SodaStream every week.

Tommy: That's solid.

Josh: Yeah, it's annoying.

George: Solid.

Josh: You have to go to the—

Tommy: 18 bucks a cylinder, is it?

Josh: You have to bring in the other one. But now I can't drink normal water.

Tommy: Yeah, that's what happened. It's so annoying.

Josh: All right, yeah, so you can at thedailytalkshow.com/gronks sign up there. Make sure if you are a VIP Gronk make sure that you have, um, WhatsApp installed because then we can chat. We're getting some fantastic chats going on.

Mason: And, uh, don't send us tongue pics though.

Josh: Yeah, no tongue pic. That was a—

Mason: and feet. You don't need feet. Don't need feet pics either.

Josh: Yeah, we're probably done with that, to be honest.

George: Any body part pics?

Mason: No, no, no.

Josh: What about— you could just send a selfie. Is there any creative challenge I can get— actually, this is a good way. Can you send a photo of you getting your drinks for— or a video, let's do that. Can you do a video of you getting your drinks? So, whether you are following that Stanley bloke doing a mixing thing, or Jill, whatever it is.

George: Why is it—

Josh: what's funny, Seth?

Mason: Just a little mixing thing, making a cocktail.

Josh: What was that, TJ?

Tommy: I was just—

Mason: Yeah, what flew across the screen there?

Tommy: I'm just flicking something. I'm pretty bored.

George: Okay. All right. There you go.

Josh: All right. Anyway, we'll see you pretty bored, guys. Wrap it up.

Tommy: Oh, we get caught in these 5-minute loops of trying to finish the show somehow. Oh, hang on.

Mason: No, no, just—

Tommy: I'm doing it right now.

Mason: I actually— we actually— Josh, you mentioned that we haven't got any reviews for in a week, but we have got one. It's from Nelson92. Um, natural, light-hearted, and 10 out of 10 banter. Great company, um, to keep with me through working from home in these strange times. 5 stars.

Tommy: Perfect. Good one.

Josh: Do you reckon this— do you reckon this sets people up? Like, I wonder if— I wonder when we'll get an angry review.

George: Ah, no, I don't know.

Tommy: Depends if how much smut you keep bringing.

George: Maybe.

Mason: Yeah, 4 blokes, just— yeah, it's not great, mate.

Tommy: You, um, there definitely will be. It's at some point, but that's okay. You're gonna take it.

Josh: We're just sensitive people like everyone. Yeah, we're complaining.

Tommy: Shane Jacobson said— Shane Jacobson said how his metaphor of someone who built a house standing out the front and people are driving past yelling out what they think of the house— that doesn't happen, but it happens when you put things out online. And we're just trying out, like, we're just a couple of, you know, Aussie battlers on JobKeeper trying to fucking make something of ourselves.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, that's nice.

Mason: Gem just said she might pop something in my letterbox when she does her bottle shop run tomorrow morning.

Josh: Bag of dog shit.

Mason: That'd be nice. The dog shit.

Josh: That's nice. You know, we're all doing our best, guys, and you are too. We appreciate you all. Sorry if anything that anyone said has offended you. It's not our intention at all. It's all for, you know, quality entertainment. We try and be a bit informative, and we just want to bring you up during this time. And obviously anything that's sort of been mixed or matched in out of context as well. Sometimes we're feeling a certain way and we say something, and yeah, how much are you using it? I'm fine. All right, we'll see you at 4 PM, guys. See you on the WhatsApp.

Tommy: See you guys.