Personality Tests

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 666.

Tommy: You cheeky devil, how are ya? Happy Monday.

Josh: I am back at a 100.

Tommy: Yeah, it was— well, this morning not so good. Sev's knocked you off that hungee. It's good that you're back. I feel better after doing some exercise. Definitely up at the, um, in the 90s now and just had a little A little bicky that my wife baked yesterday. Feeling good.

Josh: What sort of bicky?

Tommy: Oh, I don't know. I found some recipe of some gooey sort of chocolate, sort of thin biscuits. They were lovely.

Unknown: This is a little bit naughty.

Tommy: Almost a bit golden syrup tasting.

Josh: You sound a bit phlegmy, to be honest right now.

Tommy: With white chocolate chips. It's all the sugar, bro. Yeah.

Josh: What's the difference between a cookie and a biscuit?

Tommy: Uh, good point, good point. Is there a difference? Cookie and a biscuit? Can a biscuit be a cookie? We've got the Showbaker. We'll let her jump into the live, uh, chat going on on YouTube right now, youtube.com/thedailytalkshow. Hey, uh, with the devil stuff at the moment, I just— I was thinking about a question, um, and I came up with this question before I even remembered that it was episode 666. The devil. Uh, so Josh and Mason, I want you both think about this. What's the earliest memory that you have of you doing something really naughty like the devil? Oh yeah, so it's—

Josh: I know what Seb's is going to be because he mentions it all the time.

Tommy: What did he do?

Josh: Yeah, it's the, the teddy bear thing or whatever where you— where your mum pulled over on the side of the road and No, I'm—

Tommy: nah, that's Seb's naughtiest thing.

Unknown: That's a little tantrum. And you have one, Tommy had one the other day.

Tommy: Oh, I had my Tommy's, Tommy's Tanty coming back later in the week.

Josh: You start, TJ. What was, what was yours?

Tommy: Oh, and so like, I think I mentioned this morning's show was talking like seeing, seeing kids like in that movie Lion, seeing Bodhi seeing my son grow up and just thinking about he will break the rules and there's nothing I can really do about it. And you just hope it's not too bad. For instance, if he's anything like me, I reckon I was 4 or 5, I got a, I got a pole and I got up on the side fence at our house and the next door neighbour had a garage and I could sit like— there was a little hole into the garage, and I leaned over and had the pole, and I pushed over the paint shelf. Oh, what a little tit rat. Absolute tit rat. But that's super annoying. I don't know, I thought when the paint goes over, it'll be— it'll splash. Like, there's no rhyme or reason. I'm not— it was just being the little devil. I was possessed. I was absolutely possessed. Did you guys do naughty shit or no? Or are you good boys?

Josh: I can't remember anything super duper young that I did that was naughty.

Tommy: Like, I just remember, um, your brother took out your dad's car and did burnouts at a party.

Josh: Like, I did stuff like I, um, you know, hung my brother or whatever by, um, with the rope thing where I got the rope and I used it as a finish line. And then I just— but just clotheslined him.

Tommy: Yeah, you held the tension in the finish line and he got clotheslined by the finish line. That is pretty naughty. But Seb, I feel like you're a little angel. You actually, when you poo, no poos on the toilet paper. Like, that's how much of an angel you are.

Unknown: Well, I guess, like, I think the worst thing I've done was— I can't remember why, but I was being told off and I got sent to my room, and so I got a tennis racket and we had stained glass above the door. And so, I threw the tennis racket through the stained glass. Yes.

Josh: That's a nightmare.

Tommy: I like that. That's respect, son. Respect.

Josh: You guys are a little bit out of sync. I'm going to get you— Go out of Skype and go back in, I reckon.

Tommy: Out of Skype?

Josh: Because it might help. I mean, there was a Hank— What was that called? Just end the call on Skype, but just keep— vMix is all good. I can hear you nice and clear. Okay, good. It's just a little bit out of sync. It was annoying me. When I handcuffed my uncle, that created a lot of issues within our family, like 4 years of not seeing them. So that was a big issue.

Tommy: Am I back in yet, Josh?

Unknown: This is an absolute nightmare.

Josh: That's okay.

Tommy: It's fine, guys. Or Josh, this is you sort of— you need him coming to you.

Unknown: Do you want me to ring everyone? Yeah, ring the entire group.

Tommy: Here we go.

Josh: Sorry guys, this is— here we go. Just make sure you mute your Skype or whatever. Let's see if that's improved things.

Unknown: All right, I'm muted.

Josh: Great.

Unknown: Did that do anything?

Josh: No, there's still a little bit of a delay.

Tommy: It's the afternoon, there's probably lots of people on the interweb. It's all good.

Josh: It happens. So, yeah, the handcuffing thing.

Unknown: Jordan Michaelides just wrote, when I handcuffed my uncle, that's what I just walked into.

Josh: Yeah. So, what happened was I went to Sovereign Hill. Sovereign Hill, for people who don't know, is sort of an 1800s style gold rush theme park or a theme park. Is that the right word?

Tommy: Well, it's almost like a— what would you call it? It's like a snapshot of history. What do you call it? Like, um, oh, it's like an attraction.

Unknown: They're calling it—

Tommy: they're calling it an attraction.

Josh: What's the exact, um, what are they— what do they describe it as, Evs?

Unknown: Um, Sovereign Hill Attraction, Goldfields, Victoria, Australia is their site title.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, if we can't work it out, they probably should work on that.

Unknown: Like a nationally acclaimed tourist attraction.

Tommy: Tourist attraction. Hot spot.

Josh: And so, do they talk about what it is? So, it's 1800s gold rush, right? That's what they say.

Tommy: Take a step back in time.

Unknown: 1850s, yeah.

Josh: Yeah. And so, I went there for my school camp and they obviously knew that they could make a bunch of cash through their gift shop. They had real dumb shit. They had like a wooden—

Unknown: Pop guns.

Josh: What was that?

Unknown: Pop guns. Do you remember? You used to— It had a little thing on the, like, the end of it, and it just like a little cap, and it just popped. Like you shoot it and it pops like a cap gun. Yeah. Is it attached to string?

Tommy: No, it made a pop noise. Was it a cork? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. Let me just throw something a bit more sort of niche to Josh. Uh, um, raspberry drops. Oh yeah, I love raspberry raindrops or something. They, they had this lolly in a tin or like a jar, and they were red And they were just great.

Unknown: Jordan's just written an open-air museum, which is a nice term for it.

Tommy: Open-air museum, unless you're in the underground, you know, tunnel that they've still preserved, which was a mining tunnel.

Josh: Well, they— But anyway, I got the—

Tommy: We've really poked holes in their business, haven't we?

Josh: Well, what about their fake gold? Let's not even get started with that. Glitter or whatever they're putting into the— for the— for the, um, what is it called when you go— you're—

Tommy: oh, you pan for gold. Yes.

Josh: Yeah. But, um, no, so I— yeah, I bought handcuffs. They were real. It was my— would have been my 12th birthday. Uh, my uncle said they weren't real, so I decided to handcuff him. And he was in my room at the time, and I pushed him onto the bed, and so he was facing down on the bed and he couldn't get up. And I did it and he was saying, it's too tight, it's too tight. And then I took them off. And when I took them off, I think he must have grabbed my neck or something. Don't do that. And then I had a red mark on my neck and my mum said, oh, what happened? And I said, oh yeah, Uncle fucking grabbed my neck. And then she's like, out. And then, um, so we didn't see them for 4 years.

Tommy: And it was because of that? Like, have you spoken to your parents about it and, and it being the reality, like the way you were?

Josh: I mean, that's the funny thing is that they, um, the weirdness is I feel like mum and dad had no issue of pointing the blame of like, you know, you're the— you've really fucked the family thing, because if you didn't If you didn't handcuff him, he wouldn't have strangled you.

Tommy: Yeah, well, there's like the— this memory is a funny thing because it's the way we remember it, and others obviously are interpreting things in their own way. I'm not saying that storey isn't fake, um, or it's not— the storey is fake. Sorry, yeah, I'm not saying it's fake. I want— I, I would love to know your uncle's thoughts. Maybe you can't even remember it. Maybe it's like You just have—

Unknown: you definitely remember being handcuffed on a bed.

Josh: No, no, he definitely remembers it because it was like they only—

Tommy: by your girlfriend, maybe.

Josh: They only saw each other at, um, like funerals. I think even a funeral, they didn't— they didn't go to a funeral based on it.

Tommy: Oh God, really?

Unknown: Which is what Michael Leite is saying. If we had to start a historical real-life museum, what would it be?

Tommy: If we had to start—

Unknown: it's all three of us together, which one would we Um, I mean, what do you want to do?

Tommy: Like capturing a point in time, is that what it is? Like, I mean, it's, it's just eras, right?

Unknown: Like, oh no, if it's a museum, but you have a space museum, a tech museum, but they're all, they're all things that have really happened.

Tommy: So there was a gold rush in Ballarat, and now they have that, they've preserved it. Auschwitz, as dark as it is, they've preserved it. And you can go and look at it. Like, you went, Josh. I mean, it's amazing. But these are things that— it's like Anne Frank's attic. You can go up there.

Josh: Yeah, it looked too museum-y. I did— we didn't go in the Anne Frank one. We never did it because it's like a lot of it's in glass and shit.

Tommy: Okay, okay. I mean, museums and stuff, I'm trying to— I'm trying to work out still, are they the bones at the museums really dinosaurs? But Like, are they legit?

Unknown: I think, I think they are. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, I mean, I think so.

Tommy: Here's another question: how do we know the dinosaurs make those noises the dinosaurs make in movies? We don't. Yeah, got you that. That's true. Yeah, how does— what, what, maybe a T-Rex chirps like a little bird?

Josh: Yeah, I wonder if there's something—

Tommy: bitch little hands, you know.

Unknown: It could be something in like its vocal box, or maybe like, I mean, maybe a vocal box doesn't stay, but something to do with how their, um, bones are, you know, structured.

Tommy: Lee's got a good point. 2020 Corona Museum. I mean, it could just be, uh, cruise ships no longer exist and they're, they're literally museums of where they took out lots of people. There's already 7 people have passed away from that Ruby Princess ship up in, um, yeah, I just saw another person died. That's all from people who went on holiday on that ship. That's so sad, man. So sad. But, uh, this— I wonder what the documentary or the movie in the coming year will be on coronavirus.

Josh: Yeah, I wonder how many people are making docos on it right now.

Tommy: Netflix, I wonder how many docos they've commissioned, because you'd think they'd do a handful to get like the best version. And see which one, and then they can maybe pick which one.

Josh: Yeah, because there'd be different storeys all over the place. Like, the storey in Italy is going to be different to that of New York. And ground zero, Wuhan.

Tommy: Yeah, Wuhan.

Josh: I asked the Gronks what we should talk about today. Got some great feedback.

Tommy: Feedback or questions?

Josh: Well, not questions, just some overarching things, topics.

Tommy: Talking points.

Josh: Yeah, great, great. Linden's not happy with the Lifehack Club. He's, um, he DM'd me personally after I announced.

Unknown: Oh, did he?

Josh: Yeah. And, uh, he said, uh, I think we need a Lifehack Club update from us.

Unknown: Did you ask specifically?

Josh: No, no, no. I asked on the Daily Talk Show's Instagram for general thoughts.

Unknown: Okay.

Josh: And Linden went to my personal one because he didn't feel comfortable saying shit in front of you.

Unknown: Sure. I was just curious if you threw me under the bus or not. So, no, no, I just wanted to I don't throw anyone under the bus. Okay.

Josh: He said, I think we need a life hacks update from 97. He's dropping the ball. Quarantine is a great time to do some life hacking.

Tommy: Lyndon, he sent one out last week to our VIP Gronks. Are you one?

Unknown: Well, firstly, that was— I had to sort of restrict that because it was Victorians only.

Tommy: Okay. No, Linda's not from Victoria.

Unknown: But I do have one that I'm going to send out after this episode. I've already drafted the email.

Josh: So what is it? Can you give us a tip, a hint?

Unknown: It's to do with first aid.

Tommy: First aid. Okay. Would you like me to read it out for you on the show? Because I might just bring it to life a bit in how I vocalise it.

Josh: I wanted to do a shout out to I Spike. Who, um, is, is listening. I actually watch his live streams. He does these epic long live streams. He's got all the— his actual, uh, set. Like, if you go to his channel, his, uh, whole set is goals because he's got different colors. It's like lasers. He has a, um, uh, this light that can swing. I want to bring some of it to my Friday night drinks, disco.

Tommy: Amazing.

Unknown: Oh really?

Josh: Yeah, just, I just want to get like a bit of colour going, you know, get a— make it—

Unknown: so are you gonna, are you gonna automate that? Like, how are you gonna get some bulbs or something?

Josh: Yeah, I want to get some smart bulbs that I can change the different colours and have sort of disco colors.

Tommy: Uh, have you seen there's like, uh, speaker systems and in the panel of the speaker is just It's very old school.

Josh: That's very Costco, isn't it?

Tommy: I mean, it's just like Kate Smith's running it. Yeah. The, uh, kick girls are rocking it. What do you say to that?

Josh: Well, no, I just— I, I actually think that, um, she's very stylish and cool in some things, but I think some stuff is really daggy. I think that's one of them. Fair enough. Well, I just don't think that, like, from you Oh, Shay. Shay, Shay, that's funny. Now, what you— Shay. We also got a message from Lucy. Lucy, thank you Lucy for the message. She says, hi, Gronks, you guys should take the personality test or quiz that is going viral right now. It gives you a rundown of which TV characters you are most like. Based on a 2-minute psychological test. I'd supposedly put together— it's supposedly put together by psychologists. Here's the link. It's very hard to click on links on Instagram.

Tommy: Right.

Josh: Also just realised this message probably looks like it was sent from a bot. Lol, sorry, I took the quiz and I'm an 87 Samantha Carter from Stargate universe. You know, it's a grim state of affairs when personality quizzes are a viable option to pass time. Thank you, Lucy. Yeah, I love that.

Tommy: I'm going to do that.

Josh: We should do that after the show. When she mentioned it, I went and got my DISC. Do you know about this?

Tommy: Yeah. How much did you pay for it?

Josh: I didn't. So this was when I was working at the fire brigade.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: And so they paid for everyone to do it.

Tommy: I think I paid about $90. To do that.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: I think it was DISC. Yeah, yeah, D-I-S-C. And what was I? What? So what are you? Let me know. Let me—

Josh: so this is the insights for Josh.

Tommy: Well, I think— what about the caveat? Because I feel like you've pushed back on, uh, things that sort of pigeonhole you. You haven't liked to be sort of defined by a test, which probably says it in the, in the test itself that you don't like that. But I, I remember I mentioned we should do the—

Josh: I just push back on anything you say. Um, but, uh, no, this one's okay. All right, look, I haven't read it yet, so if my reading's poor or it doesn't make sense, that's why. Here we go. Uh, DISC Classic 2.0, staging 3, your classical profile pattern insights for Josh. You may believe that the ends justify the means, and your main goal is likely to be the control of your environment during the process. This straightforward approach can lead to outstanding accomplishments and innovative breakthroughs. However, it also— it could also create ill will among your colleagues. In extreme cases, some of your colleagues may even feel that you have used them or taken them for granted. People may feel drawn to your charisma and charm.

Unknown: Hello.

Josh: Uh, but these same individuals can sometimes feel distanced from the real you. You may be able to lessen this sense of alienation by showing a willingness to help others succeed in their personal development and advancements in their careers. The first step in achieving this might be to take a real interest in others rather than viewing them as assets. Embracing a sense of genuine sincerity should help in in this endeavor. A barrier to working more closely with your colleagues may be your tendency to fear a loss in your social status. You may believe that your well-established ability to give— convince and direct people helps keep you moving forward. In addition, you may not want anyone to view you as weak, so you may strive to keep your intimidation skills sharp. However, you would be wise to remember that your ability to persuade your colleagues is a talent that does not require aggressive tactics. Josh, you are likely to be an influential and articulate individual who has a tremendous capacity to inspire and lead people.

Unknown: Oh, great.

Josh: In fact, geez, aren't I—

Unknown: That sounds good, doesn't it?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Well, it also sounds like you're a complete psychopath. And it sounds like she went— it sounds like, sounds like that person who did that test would usually spit out some kind of like pre-done stuff, but she had to actually write it out based on the results being off the charts in those different directions. It sounds like that was a personal note from—

Josh: no, no, no, this is what you get.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, but it sounded so personal to you, didn't it? Like, it really was like, Josh, you will be successful. But just don't rip off people along the way.

Josh: And because Butterbean is saying that it's boring, I'll read one other thing very quickly. This is my work habits.

Unknown: Just quickly, do you know what else Butterbean said? We already know that you're a shit bloke, Josh. No need for a personality test, mate.

Josh: Butterbean, get a life. All right, this is Josh's work habits.

Tommy: Okay, now this is fair.

Josh: Mason and I can sort of You can vouch for whether this is true or not.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: You tend to be very good at motivating people and initiating projects in your work environment. You're likely to use your impressive verbal skills and your natural ability to give others direction when taking on these challenges. At the same time, you usually have a clear vision of whom you want on your team. Those colleagues with social power often attract your interest. In a similar manner. You may judge others by the strength of their personalities or sense of character. Your goal is usually to groom people to accept your goals, at which point you reveal your agenda. You are probably quite astute at identifying your colleagues' motives and desires. This knowledge often allows you to customise a reward system that gets people on your side. For example, you may offer friendship to those who desire acceptance. Sorry, not accept. This is too funny. I actually want to be your friend, by the way.

Unknown: This is so true.

Josh: Uh, or you may present security to those who seek stability. When possible, you may even extend authority to those who want power. To direct people towards your goals, you are likely to shower them with compliments or make demands upon them, depending on who you think will be, uh, depending on what you think will be more effective. You may even actively manipulate others to get your way. Among the times when you can be most persuasive is when you are seeking assistance. In these cases, you may show a gift for getting others to do repetitive or time-consuming tasks. If you are frustrated in your drive to achieve your goals, you are likely to become quarrelsome, or belligerent. This is because you probably see aggression as a legitimate form of expression. In addition, you may have no hesitation to discipline others or override your colleagues' decisions when you see it as necessary. Your colleagues probably admire and like you. However, you may still have the potential to strike fear into others. Either way, you are likely to tap into whatever emotional responses you provoke in others, so that you can better persuade them. I mean, that's annoying. I was expecting stuff on my procrastination, but nothing.

Tommy: It was good. I mean, it was all true.

Josh: It was all true.

Unknown: The starting project stuff, that's real, um, that's real accurate.

Josh: The funny thing about it is the, um, uh, I can't remember what I was gonna say. I mean, it's true, but also, I know the funny thing about it is that This was when I was an intern. This was like, so it's pretty funny thinking about like an intern having these qualities. I annoyed the fuck out of my bosses.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, what are you meant to do with this stuff though once you've got it? Like, what was the directive to you as a— well, how old were you, 18, 17?

Josh: Uh, 19, uh, 18, 19.

Tommy: Yeah. And what, what did they say? Yeah, yeah, Josh, um, you're in trouble, mate.

Josh: What's— no, well, they thought like It's not good or bad, it's just like, it's just giving you a bit of a sense of things.

Tommy: Well, some businesses now only hire based on personality tests. Well, no, sorry, that's incorrect because you're probably not allowed to do that. But it's, they're heavily factoring what that test comes back as and how it sits within the team that they have in the building. So Amy, Amy did it before she got her last job and, and yeah, she did the test. And I mean, there's such a, such a feeling. I could imagine. I don't like tests as it is.

Josh: Real Inky Doo wants to know who's, who's sorting utensils right now.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, it's on my end. It's on my end. Sorry guys. Oh, do you want me to mute myself?

Josh: No, no, sorry.

Tommy: Real Inky Doo. I did mute it.

Josh: Oh, but then we can't hear you though.

Tommy: Yeah, sorry, I muted myself.

Josh: Was it a psych test?

Unknown: The one that Lucy's— ah, the Amy.

Tommy: No, similar to what you— similar to what you've done. It wasn't the disc test, it was, it was something else. We, we could actually have the lady who does this test on our show. Yeah, they, um, I actually got her email, so we should, we should organise that and do the test and have her sort of go over it and, um, and, and yeah, run us through it.

Josh: Hang on, what date is it today?

Tommy: It's—

Josh: this is freaky.

Unknown: Oh, this—

Tommy: oh wow, the 666.

Josh: No, it's the 6th of the 4th.

Tommy: Yeah, but it's the 6th.

Unknown: No, but it's April 6th and we're doing episode 666.

Josh: No, but what I was going to say was, was, uh, creepy is this test was done this day in 2010. This is exactly 10 years old today, the 6th of the 4th, 2010. Wow, is that not interesting?

Unknown: That's crazy.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it's, it's kind of cool, dude.

Josh: And the place is on Colling— in Collingwood.

Tommy: Wow, stars aligned. Mercury's in retrograde. Have you not seen that? Did you watch Tom Segura's Netflix special?

Josh: Oh, he's very funny.

Tommy: Where he's talking about how people would look at his ID and be like, "You're born on the 14th of August? I'm born on the 16th." But it's funny, but I mean, that's pretty, that's spot on. The same day, same month, 10 years ago. But the bigger question is, is that a decade ago or not?

Josh: No, it's definitely, definitely a decade ago.

Unknown: I've actually just done that personality test that Lucy sent through.

Josh: I came out. Exclusive.

Tommy: No, let me just— let me— he's come back as iRobot.

Unknown: Yeah, no, I, I came back as Jim from The Office.

Josh: Jim, that's funny.

Tommy: Jim from The Office. Which one's he? Which one?

Unknown: John Krasinski or whatever his name is.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is funny. That is funny.

Josh: There you go. I love you filling stuff, TJ, just with that. Yeah, very funny.

Tommy: Yeah, I was opening something. Shannon sent through a couple of questions which are from these like Reflex the game, the cue cards, the cards that have questions on them from Flex Mammies. Flex Mammies Reflex cards.

Unknown: Is it Flex Mama? No, I think it's Flex Mami.

Tommy: Flex Mammies.

Josh: I like Mammies. Flex Mama? Mama.

Tommy: Anyway, uh, so the two that she sent through: if you accidentally killed someone, would you turn yourself in? That's a hard one, but, uh, definitely turn myself in.

Unknown: Yeah, if you killed someone or accidentally killed—

Tommy: yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to turn yourself in. And then the other one was, what's one thing you did that you really wish you could go back and and undo. I mean, pushing that, pushing that, um, you know, that paint bloody shelf.

Josh: Sorry guys, go back.

Tommy: Yeah, I'd definitely go back. And there was no use. What was the use of me pushing that over? Absolutely nothing. Why didn't I kill a few? I killed a few, um, rats in my time. Oh no, killed a few mice. I once put mice into a cup and shook them. And then froze them for my snake. Oh, oh, that's how you do it. It's— I mean, this is—

Josh: do you have to do the, the shaking before?

Tommy: Yeah, because what is that? What is that? It stuns, it stuns, it stuns them. But that's— I mean, the thing is, I wouldn't even own a snake these days, but I owned a snake, and you gotta pay money to buy the little mice that you feed them. And so, well, there's— yeah, because you can't just have dead mice In your house.

Josh: Why did you get it? What happened to your snake?

Tommy: Well, I had two snakes, children's pythons. One died when I went away on holidays and my brother had to look after it and I came back and it was dead.

Josh: Why do you reckon it died?

Tommy: I think it was just sick, but it was, it was timely that I was away and my brother was tasked to look after it and then it died. But no, you'd feed it. Mice, and so you'd breed them because it was cheaper. I don't know, this is the thing. I mean, I, I had so many pets as a kid, like, this is, this is, uh, did you—

Josh: where'd you get them from?

Tommy: There's pet shops everywhere that sell snakes. There's, um, one in Burwood, uh, where else? Aquariums.

Unknown: There used to be one in Glenferry Road on the corner.

Josh: Yeah, I remember with what happened to pet shops in, um, shopping centres that really sort of—

Tommy: oh yeah, the one at Shoppo went There was one at Bondi Junction for years.

Josh: Was it an ethical thing, do you think? The reason they got rid of them?

Tommy: Oh, I mean, they got probably horrible hate mail. Because you'd go—

Josh: It's pretty disgusting, really. Like, you'd go into the shop and like be looking at like puppies and cats that are in fucking glass boxes.

Unknown: Yeah, it's not ideal.

Josh: Queen Gronk is not happy in the comments. She's saying that Shannon and her brought up this personality test at the 11 AM chat. And we'll, uh, completely ignored it.

Unknown: She's all— she's also said it's pronounced Marmee.

Tommy: Marmee, great.

Unknown: Marmee.

Josh: Okay, so flex, man. All right, well, let's do the personality test, um, after this and put it on Instagram. Yeah, great.

Tommy: This is the one, the TV star one. Yeah, yeah, you're definitely gonna— I mean, as the guy from The Office, uh, Dwight.

Josh: Or maybe, um, you'd probably come back more like The Rock.

Unknown: If you, if you came out as Dwight, that'd be great.

Tommy: No, you'd be more Ricky Gervais, to be honest, if there was one from The Office. Ricky Gervais. Yeah, as you'd be the guy.

Josh: Uh, Paulina says, I think they banned dogs from being sold at pet shops. I feel like that would be, that would be good because it does seem a little bit Uh, bad. I don't know, like, do you remember? Because we used to go to zoo— like, how do we feel about like Melbourne Zoo and places like that now?

Tommy: They don't have good heat on them, but they, they are much better establishments than most. Like the, the ones— Melbourne, Sydney, Taronga— like, these are better places.

Josh: They don't have What are they doing that's different to Joe Exotic though?

Tommy: Oh, he's a scumbag that was breeding them to sell to people that kept them in their house in Vegas or just their backyard. Like, so yeah, I think, I think we probably have better—

Unknown: I don't know, but we surely would potentially have a bit more stricter laws than— Yeah, so it's on zoos and that sort of stuff.

Tommy: Definitely. But I mean, pan— uh, polar bears, you can see polar bears at zoos these days. That's pretty fucking full-on.

Josh: Anyway, I actually went to a, um, I went to a zoo in Indonesia, in Surabaya, and it was like a, um, they call it like a local, like it's like a local tourism. It's not really, um, like there was no non-Indonesian people there. I was the only one, so people were actually taking photos of me at the zoo. You bit the animal? It was this, it was so sad because it just looked like the, Shannon's saying conservation, they help rescued injured wildlife. That's good.

Tommy: That's what I'd be saying if I was running a zoo.

Josh: Very convenient.

Tommy: And it's getting some bad hate, you know.

Unknown: No, but I think they potentially also help with breeding as well. Just quickly, just because there are a couple of births, but I think that might be like species. Preservation.

Josh: Pretty slow on the breeding though, like, don't you think?

Unknown: Yeah, well, I don't think they're just popping them out. I think they're just like, if they've got a couple of pandas and there are only a couple left, they're just trying to help it out.

Tommy: But yeah, I mean, the, the real, the real dud ones are like SeaWorld.

Josh: And at what point are we sending Seb to the zoo for them to help pop a few out? Yeah, the, um I can't remember what I was going to say.

Tommy: Can I just say, do you think it's okay to continue to wear that hat with tiger on it?

Josh: No, I think it's like very relevant. That's why I'm wearing this one.

Unknown: You just doubled down on it.

Tommy: Yeah, Joe over here.

Josh: When was the last time you guys went to a zoo?

Tommy: I went to— 2012, great year. I went to the San Diego Zoo. Oh yeah, that's an epic, epic zoo.

Josh: Oh, that's what I was— that's what I was saying. In Indonesia they had like, um, Australian animals and you could tell that they were just fucking like, you know, like half a wing or whatever, like they'd just been taken into a cage or whatever and sent over there. Um, but they had everything. It was like a zoo, but then it also had like a mini world in it. And so there was like an Eiffel Tower I'll send some, put some photos on Instagram. It was a bit ridiculous.

Tommy: According to the Google search, San Diego Zoo is the voted number one zoo in the world.

Josh: Based on their pizza?

Tommy: Well, no, based on their—

Josh: Did you get that joke? Because the, that pizza at Joe Exotic's place actually looked really good. Don't you think?

Tommy: Do you know that they were using The meat, Costco meat.

Unknown: The leftover warm-up.

Josh: Oh, wait, that's not ideal. But look, the actual base, the tomato base and stuff.

Unknown: Meat Lovers would have been outrageous on that.

Josh: Yeah, real disgusting.

Tommy: Absolutely disgusting.

Josh: Can you explain what they— You know how there was a bit in the doco where they're like, if you put through the meat at Costco, if it's left the fridge, they can't put it back. So, would they say—

Tommy: Makes a lot of sense.

Josh: Were they going to Costco by taking it out as if they were going to buy it? Was that what was happening?

Tommy: It'd be like if your credit card declined at the checkout and you had to take products out and you just were like, I'll leave that 24 ounces of steak. And then they're not going to go put that steak back into the cold fridge. And so, they end up giving that meat to zoos and stuff. So it would just happen enough at enough Costcos. Think about how big these stores are and how many people— Costco or Walmart, or any, any big supermarket. I just, I wonder, it's like when the gronks leave, you know, um, shit in the fridge section or outside of the fridge section, just put— putting a water back on, putting a thing of milk onto the shelf that it's not going to be your list unit if you're doing that. There's a lot of use lunas. You lose units. Didn't even say that to try and be funny, I just confused it. Anyway, tomorrow guys, we've got Matt Diavella on the show from LA.

Josh: Yeah, live.

Tommy: He is alive and he's in LA.

Josh: 11 AM.

Unknown: Yeah.

Josh: Do you have any admin standard time, Sebbs? Nah, no, just give us something. What have you got? Have you got a content idea?

Tommy: Content?

Josh: What? Um, what do you think your conversation— your ability to have conversations?

Unknown: I'm just thinking about sending out my life hacks, to be honest.

Josh: Okay, and so do you think you're a good conversationalist? Do you think you're good at conversation?

Unknown: Uh, driving, probably not.

Josh: What?

Unknown: Driving conversation.

Josh: Oh, okay, sorry, I thought you meant speaking while you're driving. Okay, driving conversation.

Unknown: Driving conversation, probably not, but I mean, if there's— if I've got like stimulus and stuff, then it's okay.

Josh: Yeah, I feel like there's stuff that we could do there for you, just in dialling in the— because I don't think it's that much of a jump for you to— I would love to see you drive a conversation.

Tommy: Does he need banter cards? Does he need some kind of—

Josh: could probably do a— we could do a banter card deck, like, um, like a deck of cards, or we could even make it available digitally. Digitally, um, digital deck. Digital deck. Um, but what about if— yeah, we could, we could, um, yeah, I could imagine like people could flick through. So banter So, like, 100— I could provide you with 100 questions. How are you going to speak? You spoke— you've spoken with, um—

Unknown: I double down it. Just go for it.

Josh: Yeah, you will. You spoke to— you speak to Grace for 5 hours. What do you talk about? Are you leading the conversation?

Unknown: No, probably not a lot of the time, no.

Tommy: I bet they love— doesn't have to talk, Josh. You can just listen to each other's breath.

Josh: So Grace says definitely. What's she saying? Drivingly?

Unknown: I don't know, but I think we, we did— I mean, there's different parts. There's like, you get a bunch of stimulus so you can drive it off that, but I don't think that's like necessarily driving the conversation. I think that's just reacting to what's going on.

Tommy: Josh, he's testing and learning. We know this.

Josh: But I would love to, like, I've already used some of my best banter gear on Grace when she first came into the call before we went live the other day. I asked her, what's your favourite cuisine? And then if you had to pick one restaurant to be at your house full time, what would you pick?

Tommy: You've got two options here, Seb. Keep doing what you're doing. And iterate, or do Josh's questions, which will make you just seem like a robot. I don't think there's much— as much as it achieves the banter bit, I don't think it achieves the just going with the flow, just feeling out the vibe. You know, you're like, if you just like— it goes a bit quiet. If you could have one food in your—

Josh: No, I think it happens more naturally than that. Grace says he's a great listener. And I think that that's the point. I think, um, uh, I think just having a few prompters, a few questions, but you need to be like, yeah, I just think let's put together— I'll put through 100. I'm just going to do a sprint now. I'm just going to go through and write 100 questions and pick a few, pick a few and see how they go.

Tommy: Um, all right, we'll finish off there. We've got to have a meeting after this anyway.

Josh: People are saying that people are turning on Butterbean in the chat. It's gone real.

Tommy: Did you see what Butterbean wrote? He said, I don't wish it on anyone, but it would be great for content if Josh got coronavirus.

Josh: Yeah, Butterbean is projecting. I don't want to be mean to him, but yeah, Butterbean, hurt people hurt people. And so, seriously, Butterbean is joining the chat. And, um, just don't gang up on— but don't get— Butterbean is just trying to bring banter. He's— he or she's been a bit off, but, um, yeah, I think we can—

Tommy: he needs your cards.

Josh: I think we can redeem Butterbean.

Unknown: He needs your cards.

Josh: Um, what?

Tommy: Who does? Who needs the cards? No, Butterbean's got his trolling dialled in, mate. He doesn't need any cards.

Josh: He's He's probably says, I don't mean that in a bad way. He's at— he actually is a great listener. She says, I don't shut up though. And so that's the thing, like, I think it is a good quality, to be honest. When, uh, Bri finishes work, um, and say if we're walking home, Sevs is very good at just like listening to all the drama from all— like, yeah, so this person said this, but I'm thinking this, and then I got back, I emailed this person And, um, so Sibs is very good at that, that type of thing, you know.

Tommy: What are you thinking when you're listening? Are you thinking anything?

Unknown: Um, I mean, sometimes, sometimes you're actually like, sometimes you're thinking of what to mention next or what to talk about next, but then other times it just comes to your head and you're just so cute listening.

Josh: Have you, have you worked out interesting questions? Like if you were to give If you had to give someone 3 questions for good banter, what are 3 that you get really good responses from?

Unknown: What's in your Spotify playlist?

Josh: No, no, no, don't be dumb. What are the actual 3?

Tommy: It is hard. It is hard because teaching anyone how to do banter, they're in a crisis. Like, you've got to think about it. Banter is more than just the question and the word— the words in the question.

Josh: I could come up with 3 right now. Here, here's 3, top of my head, not even thinking. If you had $100 to spend at Officeworks, what would you buy?

Tommy: Can I just get— can I just get some feedback in the YouTube live chat? If you got asked one of these questions on a date, what would you think? Because it's still not taking into consideration that you just feeling it out, listening. Oh, that was cool. Yeah, so, you know, you said that. What about this? Like, it's—

Josh: What's the last thing you thought about before you went to sleep last night?

Tommy: I reckon, I reckon this is a sure way how not to get a root.

Josh: Why? It's being curious. Do you want some? I'll give you some more for free. Um, I mean, the screen time one's a good one. I think screen time banter is great. We lean on it heavily.

Tommy: Um, you know when you see these, these scumbags that are trying to sell to guys how to get girls and how to do it? Like, I think it's up there with that shit.

Josh: Like, I'm not even— I think that this is, this is more just how to be human, not how to pick up. I'm not, I'm not telling you how to pick up. I have no idea. I've been out of the game a long time, son. But, um, but, um, no, I think you're doing all right.

Tommy: I think you're doing it right. You know what? You know how you get better at it? You have 5-hour phone calls with a person in another state and you just talk, and you're getting there.

Unknown: It—

Tommy: you just do more of that and you, you'll, you'll become the guy you want to become, Sevs. Mate, you've come so far.

Josh: Lyndon says, "The questions break the ice but don't seem all that natural in conversation." Lyndon, it depends if you're talking about Officeworks or not. Oh, what was your favourite—

Unknown: Depends if you got a good segue.

Josh: Yeah. What was your, like, what was your pencil case like growing up? What did you have for school lunches? Who was your best friend growing up in school? What was your favourite subject?

Tommy: I think you do.

Josh: I think you could literally go through and scroll through. What I would be doing, I would scroll through anyone— like, if you're meeting up with someone or you're having conversation, go through their Instagram, find out who they're following, find out what they've previously posted, and you could base a list on that. I could literally—

Tommy: but he's so like, Josh, that's psychotic in my mind. It's not psychotic, it is actually, um, that is so— but no, all that points out is there's two different ways to— or there's multiple different ways to approach it. Because I can imagine you do that and then you're linking and referencing somebody that you know that they will then connect to because you're like, I follow them. You're like, I knew you did, but you don't say that. But you don't— yeah, then I saw this, I once saw there's that approach, or there's, how about we just fucking listen and respond?

Josh: All right, do you know what Edmund Rice camps are? So, um, hang on. So it's a not-for-profit. So this is what I do. LinkedIn. So, did you know Grace was a camp counsellor at Edmund Rice campus?

Tommy: Okay, now you're just being an absolute stalker.

Josh: No, but this is what you can do. This is literally what you could do. I don't know if you want to do that.

Unknown: Wouldn't you rather just find that out by her mentioning it.

Tommy: Yeah, there's—

Josh: I think that you could, you could easily like have heaps of things to talk about based on all the— like based on this. It's— she's filled out her LinkedIn completely. You've— I don't understand the, um— no, I just think that there is something in the curiosity of clicking through, um, just scrolling through Instagram, looking at tags. Have you looked at what what's being tagged and things like that. Probably not.

Tommy: This is storky, Josh, says Shannon. This is not good, says Alex. Grace says great, and I can imagine the tone behind that.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Gemma says, what are your credit card details?

Josh: So, like, her blazer, she's got like 7 badges on her school blazer from from 2013.

Tommy: I'm not even gonna have to do anything. Can you read George's comment?

Josh: Hang on, man.

Tommy: No, not you, Josh. Mason.

Unknown: And then, yeah, George says, 'Protect her, Mason. Now's your chance. Fire back.' It wasn't—

Tommy: fuck, I gave it to him on a platter too. It wasn't for you to read out, it was for you to act on what he wrote.

Josh: 'Stop Googling me,' says Grace. Okay, because she's asked, I'll stop. But that's— I don't have to Google publicly, but that's the sort of shit that you should— could easily be doing.

Unknown: Should or could?

Josh: I just think that there's— but this is the funny thing, no one's willing to say it, but if you're not Googling someone, are you seriously not— you didn't Google Amy, TJ?

Tommy: Um, not, not while I— I mean, I met her. I did all the things you're talking about before needing to Google her. Of course, of course you look at their Instagram, you look at photos and shit, like, yeah, but I'm not, I'm not using it to then form my next meetings, convos, and it's just— I'm learning about the person, speaking to them on the phone, just listening, talking.

Josh: But I think that there's list— there's lots of different ways of listening. I think that one of them could be—

Tommy: yeah, restraining order is one.

Josh: You, you're overbaiting. Like, no, this is fine. Looking at public stuff, this isn't— this isn't stuff that—

Unknown: but what if they don't want it to be? What if they don't want it to be public? What if it—

Tommy: this is—

Josh: if you can type in someone's name and the content appears, it's public information and they need to be fined.

Tommy: Yeah, if I got a credit card number and I used it and I saw—

Unknown: what is Shannon saying? JJ, you've missed the mark here, pal. Gemma's saying, JJ, this is not good advice. And Campbell says, Josh, don't let go of Bree. I think that this is, um, I think I reckon, I reckon it's a bit outrage. No, I reckon it's just a bit outrageous. Yeah, I mean, you're really informing everything from it.

Josh: No, it's not about informing, but just being like, okay, if she follows Jessica Alba on LinkedIn, what does that mean?

Unknown: Maybe she just likes Fool's Gold.

Tommy: My question would be is why is Jessica Alba on LinkedIn?

Josh: Jessica Alba is a very successful entrepreneur.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, but I don't think she needs LinkedIn.

Josh: I think there's a—

Unknown: I think she's like Janine— I think she's like Janine Ellis sort of thing, like that sort of—

Tommy: mate, that's a very big compliment for Janine Ellis.

Josh: This is what makes Josh a good interviewer/question asker, but perhaps it doesn't transfer as well well in early friendship. So funny.

Tommy: Josh, I had to give you pushback when you'd ask me in the first thing in the morning, what's the great— what's the best part of your day?

Unknown: What's the highlight?

Tommy: I was like, fucking, what's the highlight of your day? He's like, bro, I've been awake for 3 hours, not much.

Josh: I know, I would be looking at— I just think that there's just so many, um, opportu— like, you were talking about stimulus. So how do you get stimulus? Yeah. And so I think that you could just look at that, you know, what music is she suggesting in these documents? You know, what does that mean? I get it.

Tommy: Shannon said—

Unknown: What are her hobbies in our listener database?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh my God, don't— Sev, just be you, dude. Just give it your best. Shannon says Jessica Alba is a thought leader. Yeah, Jessica Alba is a billionaire. And I once saw her in Rodeo Drive. I saw some paparazzi snapping and I ran over to take pictures of the paparazzi taking pictures of somebody. And then I saw Jessica Alba was there. I was like, damn, that's Hollywood, baby.

Josh: All right, it's a daily talk show. Do you think, actually being honest for a sec, like dumb shit aside, do you see the value in what I'm saying, Sev?

Unknown: I mean, bits, I'm not gonna do it, but bits and pieces.

Tommy: Sure, I take that as a no, Josh.

Josh: No, which bits sort of resonate with you?

Unknown: Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, some of the stimulus stuff, but I just, I just think it's nicer to find that out through talking to them and it just popping up normally instead of being like, oh yeah, like in my mind I saw that on LinkedIn, so you know, there's a talking opportunity, there's a conversation point.

Tommy: You know what I mean? Like, it's just the way you— the way you worded that question was to get a positive response, and where he then took the answer was to the negative of that, which it would have been easier to ask. You would have got there quicker is, what negative didn't you like? What was the thing about what I just said? It's great.

Josh: Show Baker says, you do you, Sebs. Which I think the thing is that Sebs is still at the age where he's still working out who he is and how he does things. And so if we can steer him even half away some way.

Tommy: And the poor kid is having to do it on a show live on YouTube right this moment. So on that note, Sevs, you can draw down that saturation in your face.

Josh: And how are you feeling? Does it actually feel hot on your face? Do you feel hot?

Unknown: No, it's not hot. It's more— oh, no, actually, no, you know what, my cheeks are hot.

Tommy: Um, oh, we love you, Sevs. Don't think otherwise. Tomorrow, yeah.

Josh: This is the way I'm showing love. I'm putting myself out here. Like, look at the comments. Clearly, it would be better if I just didn't say anything.

Unknown: Shannon says, steer him down the wrong stalker path.

Josh: It's not. There's a big difference between stalking and getting to know someone through their online activity.

Tommy: Because if you're good at stalking, they don't know it.

Josh: No, it's fine. This is all fine. Tomorrow, the vein in the middle of your head, Sev, says Shannon.

Unknown: It's because I've noticed it so much more. I reckon the light just—

Josh: Yeah, I think it's all my knowledge working its way into his head. It's a lot to take in. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. You can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, on all the podcast apps, Google podcasts as well. Spotify, that's a good place for it. And at youtube.com/thedailytalkshow if you do want to watch us live. As TJ said, Matt and Tia Vella live from Los Angeles, 11 AM, uh, Melbourne time tomorrow. Uh, otherwise have a lovely, uh, Monday night. And you know what, like, if, if you listen to what I'm saying, maybe there is an opportunity of like, oh, maybe I could ask a few more questions, or maybe there is something about being a bit curious here, you know.

Unknown: Stalk your partner.

Tommy: Yes, I think that's good advice, and you, and you did that in about 3 seconds.

Josh: Bye guys, have a good one. See you guys.